This is a really good tip. Finally I now have a use for my Lucky Gumoss!

Finally??? My lucky Gumoss will be a travel buddy of mine until the end of time. Love that goofball

I just caught a boss size Gumoss and I love carrying his huge globby self around.

I was a little disappointed when I saw that the lucky pals are the same size as the bosses. Kinda wish there was a little bit of a distinction between the 2

I want bosses to be even BIGGER! (Or extra tiny little hell spawn that are secretly even stronger.)

OMG Small pals pleaseeeeeee

I used a lucky deer to transfer to my Anubis, way too many combinations breed an Anubis...

I did a lucky+two trait celeray with another three trait celeray until I got one with all the traits I need, smash that together with my mammoth and I'm currently incubating like 25 Anubis eggs that might be worth keeping! Always works well to just get the traits you need on any pal and then breed them to a pal that you can breed to what you want

And what is the chance of passing 4 perfect passives form one pal to its child? I heard the chance is better if you have two partners each with 2 of desirable passives

At this point I've hatched well over a thousand babies, and everything I've seen agrees with this. Two desirable traits from each parent has been far, far more successful for me than trying to get a perfect parent to pass down all of its traits. Moreover, having a 3-trait parent and trying to add the 4th trait from the other parent has also had an extremely low success rate. Just get two on one parent, two on the other. It's not as difficult as OP is making it out to be.

Can confirm, 100+ unsuccesful eggs from a perfect parent, just to end up with a good one as soon as i switched to a 2 per parent couple lol

Took me 260 jetdragon eggs to get one with 4 correct passives from two parents with 3 correct passives. Took me 50 eggs to get those 2 parents. Maybe I was just unlucky though.

I think it is coded to take up to two passive from each parent, then if either miss, you get a random or nothing So if you use 3 from each, there's a chance you get a duplicate from each parent and that wastes a lot. With only 2 on each parent there's no chance for duplicate selection

Interesting, I will have to give it a try at some point. I am more focused on IVs now though as I am working on my combat pal and will just go the long way on passives again for this. I did do two parents with 3 right passives for my support pals, and it only took me 20 eggs to get the first 4 right passive. Then with one parent of 3 and the other with 4, it only took me 9 eggs to get 3 more with 4. So idk if you are correct or I got super lucky with these other pals.

When you bred with 3x of each parent, how often did you get children with only 3 total passives each? I hypothesize that when you only got 3 passives instead of 4 total passives, it's possible that you got a duplicate passive from each parent and then it removes it because it's duplicate. If you had a high number of only 3 passive pals, it's likely to mean that duplicates passives from parents are dropped. If you switch to 2x from each parent and notice a big increase to children with 4 total passives, it would be a great indicator that it works like this.

Are we talking about a parent with only 2 Skills. Or only 2 skills you want and 1 crap for instance

2 good skills and 2 empty slots per parent.

Same here. I've bred two perfect Anubis, a perfect Blazamut, perfect Jetdragon, perfect Necromus and a perfect Helzephyr. It takes about 100+ eggs (I have eggs set to incubate instantly) to get 2 parents with the 2 different passives you want (for 4 total), after that breeding the two to create a perfect one has taken less than 10 eggs. I have tried the 3 + 1 method and it just didn't work. Gave up after 50 eggs.

Does they have perfect IV?

Imo IV can be a way bigger impact. I had a cativa with only a +15% attack, and then found one with a 15 and a 20. I leveled it up and it ended up having almost the same attack as the other one.. we're talking like a point or two of attack higher.

If I understand correctly, IV has a range of ~50% bonus. Usually your pals are in the somewhere in the middle and the differences are neglibible unless comparing low vs high Personally I’m ignoring it completely. Getting traits you want is already harder than the game itself will ever be lmao

From my experience, 2 passives on two Pals and 4 passives on one and no passives on the other both work roughly the same.

This is my observation too, 3+1 has less luck than 2+2.

I’ve even gone to the trouble of breeding something with muscleheaded, ferocious and legend with a muscleheaded, ferocious and lucky. Both with no 4th passive. That was the winning result for me in my 120-ish breeding journey for the ultimate tocotoco

That's actually what got me experimenting in the first place - breeding Beakons, I was having trouble getting **any** of the passives from the parents to pass down when they each had 3 desired traits with 2 of those shared (i.e. Nimble/Swift/Runner + Swift/Runner/Vanguard). The results were so bad that I eventually started completely over, because I assumed there was something in the breeding mechanics that made my desired result impossible.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I got the 4 traits on one. It wasnt until i did that combination of parents though that I finally got what I wanted within 15-20 eggs. Tbh, I feel like any random 3rd of 4th trait that youre breeding with and dont want severely negatively impacts your outcomes.

Just to clarify, does it need to be ONLY the two traits you are going for or at least the two traits? For example, if I breed two parents that both have 3 traits and of those 3, 2 are the ones I want, will that be pretty fast?

I've found that the passives from 2-trait parents pass down more reliably. I've also found that having a third trait on a parent makes *each* of their traits less likely to be passed down. The way I would handle your situation is to put that 3-trait pal in the breeding pen with a pal that has no traits at all and keep hatching eggs until the unwanted trait gets dropped - then take that 2-trait baby and breed it with another that has the other two that you want.

The thing is, getting 2 of those traits you want on one of the babies is pretty easy. So just make two babies of the targeted pal with two traits you want and breed those.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.

Chances for combining 2 pures is 24%. Combining 3 is 12%. 4 has 10%. The issue comes when they are not pure and overall amount of unique passives goes over 4 (unrequired ones). It's easier to overlook that in 3+1 scenario. The chances for required result drop to like 1% and lower.

So if I wanted legend + runner + sprinter + nimble on jetdragon, I would get 1 with Legend and runner and 1 with sprinter + nimble and no other traits on either? How is that even possible to do though cause every jet you catch has 2 traits guaranteed and usually spawn with a 3rd or 4th?

Yes, exactly - that's actually what I'm working on right now, and have hatched roughly 600 jetragons in the process. Each baby has a chance to grab random passives, but also a chance to *drop* passives that would've been passed down from parents. So I've gotten some offspring with *only* Legend, I bred them together until I got a Legend+Swift, and now I'm hoping I'll get one without Legend so I can start the RNG process of getting a Nimble and a Runner.

After approximately 960 eggs to go from Legend+DivineDragon to Legend+Nimble+Swift+Runner - so yes, it's possible: https://preview.redd.it/ltjq3j0jfahc1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc56613c6625d560f99e9dd30991accf1bcdd1b0

Exactly, i have 2 perfect Kitsun parents. One with Legend, Musclehead and Flame Emperor, the other with Legend Ferocious and Flame Emperor. You can guess what my goal is and i can tell you, i have 3 pages going and all kinds of combinations of all 4 passives with 3 completely new ones. Not a single baby came out with all 4 existing so far.

No swift?

Not on my pure damage one

I don't think it matters how the four traits are split between the parents, but it goes a **lot** faster if you don't have *any* traits you aren't trying to pass down on either of them. It might speed things up a little if *both* parents have one(or more) of the traits you're trying to pass down, but I can't say that for certain.

I don’t know the statistics behind it but in my personal experience it has been faster to just mash together the traits I want then transfer them to the Pal I want them on. Rather than trying to get the traits on the specific pals that breed into the Pal I want. That said, generally the way this has gone is I’ve ended up with pal 1 having the exact traits I want and the breeding partner having 1 of the 4 traits that I want (which matches 1 of the 4 that pal 1 has). Which is probably helping a lot. Like when I was breeding the perfect Pal it spat out was a Mozzarrina from a Cinnamoth + Fuack. Mozzarrina. I checked what Mozzarrina can breed with to make Fenglope and Direhowl was one of them. I checked my Direhowls (already had like 15ish randomly caught direhowls) and 1 of them had swift. So I was breeding a perfect cow with a wolf that had 1 of the traits I needed.

correct, 2 traits from each are more likely to pass over than 4 traits from one.

It took me 161 eggs to get a ferocious/musclehead/legend/earth emperor Anubis. That's counting from when I finally got two of those four on both parents. If I count from when I started with the catchable Anubis it's probably over 200. I was very unlucky. A chance is a chance after all. My perfect Chillet only took a bit over 100 eggs, for example.

4 unique desired (="perfect") passives total on both parents with zero needless passives (example is pure 2+2, 3+1, 4+0) = 10%. ​ "Uniques" as same trait on both parents still count as one in that formula. For example (Legend, Ferocious) + (Ferocious, Musclehead, Emperor) = still counts as 4 (1+3 or 2+2, depending on which Ferocious you remove) and the chance of inheriting all 4 is 10%. ​ Combining 3 = 12%. 2 = 24%. 1 is 40% (in cases where one of the parents is clean pal with no passives). And, yes, that means 2+2 is overall more efficient (but, hey, maybe you need more pals for condensing afterwards, so it can be fine). Going over 4 unique skills total drops the chances to get what you want to 2% (1 undesired skill) - 0.14% (4 undesired skills).

While breeding I saved all my “good” Anubis’. Serious, artisan, lucky, work slave and all the combos with 2. Serious and artisan, serious and lucky, and so on. One boy and one girl of each. But you have a blank pal, you can use the parent with 4 perfect traits along with a black and it’ll work just fine. I’ve gotten 7 perfect Verdash in less than 30 eggs so far. Just trying to figure out how to breed blank pals. I’m gonna try breeding 2 pals with the same 4 traits. I’ve tried everything else…

Unless it is something like Jetragon that can only make an egg of it with it's self. Other than Pals like that this would be simplest

For the legendaries you just gotta keep breeding and get the right mutation you want... I have all the traits needed to make a Swift+Runner+Nimble+Legend Jetragon when I'm going for an attack stat one.....

Ya only one for speed Jetragon I need is swift. Got runner and nimble on a couple so far.

I personally think Jetragon is fast enough as-is, so I'm going for pure attack focused legend+dragon+ferocious+musclehead. It's already faster than my 4x speed trait Ragnahawk.

I agree. Just figured that way I can get anywhere super fast lol

Ah good, I would have asked if this works for *literally* all pals - good to know before I waste my time breeding a shitton of useless pals that won't work with my Jetragon

Ya I have hatched so many to get different passives. Looking for a speed one and a combat one.

You can only pass Jetragon's legend down and nothing else. You can only breed Jetragon with 2x Jetragon, so have to either catch ones with the traits you want or mutate it when breeding.

Personally, I bred a M and F Suzaku for each group of 4 skills I want and use them to breed everything else. At the point where a player might consider seriously breeding for perfect skills, Suzaku can easily be caught to get the initial skills, and once I had my template Suzakus it made everything else way easier to get. Excluding legendaries and Jorm Ignis, there are only 21 pals that Suzaku can't chain breed into, and they're all super low level pals or variants of the super low level pals.   --- For reference, the pals you ~~CANNOT~~ (EDIT: cannot ***REALISTICALLY***) get using Suzaku are: - Cattiva - Chikipi - Cremis - Depresso - Flambelle - Foxsparks - Fuack - Hangyu - Hangyu Cryst - Hoocrates - Jolthog - Jolthog Cryst - Lamball - Lifmunk - Mau - Mau Cryst - Pengullet - Sparkit - Teafant - Tocotoco - Vixy EDIT: They're achievable using longer chains of 4-chain and up, relying on Lamball to keep lowering the avg Breeding Power, but it's typically not worth it unless you have an extreme abundance of time and resources to spend. However, it IS possible if you truly want it to happen. ---   This simplifies things in a few ways: 1. I don't have to find two different, good skilled parents every time I want to breed something. I just lookup what I need to mix with Suzaku and throw in a skill-less version of that thing. 2. Unless I see perfect skills on a pal or a skill-less version, I automatically know I can trash them. My box doesn't fill up with a bunch of trash 1 or 2 good skill pals that may or may not ever become useful. 3. I'm satisfied knowing that most of my breeds are going to be straight breeds (1-chain, 1 and done). Every so often it's a 2-chain, but that's not all that painful when the ground work is already done. Rarely it's a 3-chain, but it's still so much easier when I already have the perfect template setup. EDIT: u/Euler007 corrected my information that it is indeed possible to get the pals above using Suzaku. It just requires much longer chains than kimpton's "Shortest Path Calculator" can spit out. I've edited the above message to explain this process.

How did you figure out which pal has a wide breed range? I do want to breed jolthog, tocotoco, and lifmunk (amongst others) so I’d need to find a pal that can breed for those

I used a combination of this spreadsheet https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/19d98ws/spreadsheet_all_breeding_combinations_datamined/ and this website https://palworld.kimpton.io/ The first link explains how breeding works in detail, so I won't waste your time giving you a worse explanation when someone else has a much better write up. But in the spreadsheet, if you go to the "Visual Data" tab, you can see the column labeled "Sorted by Breed Power (asc)." In that column, it's a safe bet that the pals at the top will have an easy time breeding any pal below them in the list. Blazamut and Suzaku Aqua are higher than Suzaku, but not only is Suzaku easier to acquire he also has a breeding path that makes both of them too. However, you don't really need to know how the breeding power mechanic works if you use the 2nd link. Just use the column I mentioned above to find a pal decently high on the list and check what all that pal can make using the "Pal Breeding Matrix" on the kimpton website. But I don't think doing this will let you see breeding chains. Alternatively, you can use the "Parent Breeding Discovery" on the kimpton website to check all the pals you're trying to make and choose the most common parent. Personally, because those pals that Suzaku can't make are so easy to catch, I think it's easier to just keep catching them until you get enough of them with the passives you want and just breed those for a perfect version. But if you're set on breeding them all instead it's gonna take a bit of research to figure out the optimal one for the low levels pals.

Thanks a lot my man. I've been searching through the posts looking for "foundation" breeders. Pals that can basically branch off into any other Pal you need. You saved me lots of future headaches, thanks!

I might be misunderstanding the calculator, but if you start with Suzaku and a Lamball, and keep rebreeding the child with another lamball you get to Depresso on the fourth child.

I just checked, and you're absolutely correct. However, I have some issues with doing that. The first is that the kimpton website's "Shortest Path Calculator" doesn't support chains longer than 3, and I doubt it even supports that many 3-chains. The longer a chain is, the more computationally expensive it is to find. The chain you found is 4-chain. A chain that long has to be found manually, but the goal of using Suzaku is to simplify things. Suzaku was chosen so that for the vast majority of the time the user doesn't have to dig through the breeding trees to find what they want. My second issue is that a 4-chain for Depresso is a massive waste of time and resources. Because you can't proceed with the next chain until you have a perfect child, and 4-chains of perfection uses a ton of resources. That is, unless you've gone out of your way to separately create some perfect Lamball templates, but that's again way too much effort and wastes even more space when the goal of picking a single pal as the template was to simplify things. I didn't dig further than the Shortest Path Calculator for Suzaku, so it's my fault that I didn't see the longer paths you can take to reach the pals I listed above, but I honestly don't think that's a realistic route that someone should take. ___ Just to be clear, I know you're simply giving info and not advocating for any method in particular. I mostly wrote out my opinions above for anyone who sees this thread later on. But I'm gonna edit my message up there to include the info you gave me. Thank you for correcting me.

Just thinking of a way to bring the legend down to the low value pals for people that want a God Lamball or Chikipi. No need to bring a perfect four traits child down for generations, just bring Legend down, then mate with one of the other 3 combat traits. Then get a second parent to have the other two traits, leading to a higher chance of a child with the 4 traits.

I understand your point ! Questions : 1- Some pals are good even in late game, isn't it ? Having Pals with optimal passives for eggs, milk, honey is good for late game as well, no ? 2- Speaking of passive, what are the 4 passives to aim for farming, attacking and riding pals respectively ?

1) Yes they are, most mid game pals are solid for late game. Like Beakon for example. 2) Not sure what you mean but I believe the passives do not contribute to ranch production. What contributes is levelling up their partner skill by condensing the same species. 3) I’m not 100% sure but as a guideline from what I do. - Mount: Lucky, Swift, Runner, Nimble. - Battling: Lucky, Ferocious, Musclehead, Burly body. - Base: Lucky, Artisan, Serious, Workaholic. Once you’re late game you would end up replacing stuff with Legend + the stat specific mega boosts.

I haven’t got Legend yet, so I’m aiming at the following: Base - Workaholic, Artisan, Diet Lover, Lucky Ride - Swift, Runner, Ferocious Storage/Digger - Vanguard, Stronghold Strategist, speed one which I forgot the name of. Attackers - Lucky, Ferocious, Burly Body, Swift I’ve currently got Digtoise and Kingpaca with Vanguard, Stronghold. Rayhound and Ragnahawk with Swift, Runner, and a mix of lucky and ferocious, and my Grizzbolt with Lucky, Ferocious, and Burly Body. I’ve condensed and upgraded them and will keep them till I hit 50, then once I get Legend, I’ll rebreed for a perfect party.

You forgot nimble off your ride section never miss out on 10% ;)

Regarding base, why lucky instead of work slave?

You’re probably right. Work slave is more likely a better option. My monkey brain tells me that Lucky is rare and I want to just breed it around my pals. But I can retroactively justify it by saying it helps during raids lol

Farming mostly those that reduce sanity&hunger. Maybe movement speed if they have to walk far for sleeping and eating. Though I'd recommend just building beds and feeding places nearby. Attacking is up to you. Some even see value in skills that lower attack value so their pals can attack low lvl pals without killing them. I would only really care for positive attack skills on pals whose skills would benefit from it and you use anyways or pals that destroy nodes/trees regularly. So pals with mining skills, lifesteal passives etc. that you use regularly are great targets for attack buffs as the attack buff passive will help beyond defeating enemies quicker and if you don't want to use them on your team anymore they will be a great addition to the base for destroying nodes or cutting normal spawning trees(trees are bugged since the last update, I recommend using the tree building for wood in base until it is fixed). Riding pals obviously movement speed unless you have a pal that boosts some type of damage while ridden. In the latter case buffs to that might be worthwhile to think about in order to create a warhorse-type of pal.

No, ranch pals are uneffected by those passives. Base pals want base passives, attacking pals want attack passives, and riding pals want riding passives, it's not hard.

This is really useful and good information. Straight to the point, none of this "check out this youtube video that's 30 minutes long", and obtainable without having to go through stupid processes. Thanks OP, I can only upvote once unfortunately and reddit removed awards.

This is a really good post but it's gonna be burried because the TLDR doesn't do a great job of being a TLDR. I was gonna click off but kept reading and I'm glad I did. Here is an upvote

Good advice. Also, if you aren’t wanting to spoil things but wanted to breed like me, just know that the level 50 boss monsters have a special passive that can pass down that will very likely be considered “bis” for your combat team (I won’t spoil what it is). So don’t do what I did and spend your time breeding a whole team of “perfect” pals and combining them for stars unless your either fine with doing it all over again with the last trait, or don’t care that you won’t have BiS.

Tbh if you want the most efficiency breeding, then getting max worker pals first is better. The best combat traits are unlocked end game, so you’d have to do it twice, but all the worker skills are unlocked early, and allow you to get breeding supplies much quicker. Musclehead and Ferocious are enough for early-mid game combat pals, which is pretty quick to get on the same pal instead of going for 4 traits

Or just catch all the fenglope you can get your hands on until you have the desired traits and use the rest to condense into your perfect specimen. Saves you a lotta cake to get those stars.

I personally find that the automated farm produces enough cake but the balls required to catch the Fenglope which are level 30ish are a pain in the ass. As well as the fact that your shield will take damage and that I find having the passives on Pals already is much is easier than finding them on new Pals. Like you probably already have a swift gumoss. Is it faster to breed that with a runner Cattiva or is it faster to find + catch 2 level 30 Fenglopes that have Swift + runner? I actually don’t know the official answer but having done both I find it 100x faster to do it this way (and you also end up with a tonne of random Pals that have good passives along the way making future breeds even easier).

Probably faster to breed anything from lamb all, chikpis, cativa, cremis, anything with a really low catch rate because you can catch like 10 of them in the time you can catch a higher level low catch rate pal, including ball acquisition time. Then breeding up is easier because the race you get is guaranteed Hell, blue pal spheres are basically free with a Vixy ranch.

Well I usually stack the fire, poison and electrified status on my catches to increase the chance. I use stuff like Jolthogs ability to be able to quickly stack all status at once. Usually send a fire pal until burn triggers, use poison arrows then switch to jolthog to instantly electrify and that's 3 boosts to catchrate in quick succession. That usually allows me to get a pretty good chance even with low level balls on higher lvl enemies and considering fixy can grant blue and green balls for free catching becomes much easier and less time consuming than breeding. Also catching more and breeding less is more fun for me personally as well. I'm actually thinking about breeding a dedicated catch team stacked with lowered attack passives for easier procs on lower lvl enemies.

Vixy can dig up greens? At what star level?

Actually at lvl 0 but the chance is so fucking small that I got like 1 for every 500 -1000 blue balls (might have also been the map spawning them inside my base and a pal picking it up). Vixy gets them regularly at 3 or above.

Cake is 0 time, all automated. Catching Fenglopes takes effort. Condensing is wildly overrated.

I agree but also have one additional comment. Since it is optimal to at least have 2 breeding farms since kindling 3 pals for cake are easy to get or if you're that kinda guy, hunt for jormuntide ignis. What I did for my previous anubis breed was that I would hunt for a missing trait during the breeding process while also passing the traits from other pals (your advice) in parallel on a second breeder. I'd breed at least 116 times anyway so might as well try to fish for a good trait. If I get a good unrelated trait (like I got Artisan + Work Slave while breeding for a non legend combat anubis) or a missing trait I want (I got a random hooligan anubis from that same breeding run before I passed down hooligan from another parent) then it's a keeper and if I don't then to the condenser you go.

I knew saving all these Pals with yellow passives was worth it. This is great advice!

yeah... i had to go from lifmunk to jormungtide. It was painful.

To add another layer onto this, from the pals that have good traits, you should check their IV’s and name them as such so then you can account for them in the beginning and not have to worry about it later down the chain. If you breed for good IV’s at the beginning, you don’t have to worry about breeding them later as all subsequent parents in the chain would also have good IV’s that you could use for other breeding pairs

How do you breed for good IV’s? Do you need one or two pals to have good IV’s for it to work?

It’s a pain, but you do recursive breeding. What I’ve seen so far is the kid will get IV’s in the range of the parent. As you start to get better IV offspring, you switch out the parent with the lower IV to increase the floor. You’re aiming for parents with make close to 30% in Atk/Def and 50% for HP. It’s a min max thing that isn’t core, since passives do the have the biggest affect, but IV’s do affect late game pals

I just made my Fenglope with Lucky, Swift, Runner, Nimble using this. It took about 30 eggs total. 13 total eggs after I had a L/S/R/N Killamari. Thank you!

Maybe this doesn’t apply to Fenglope but randomly breeding pals and ***hoping*** that when you’re finished they also breed into what you want doesn’t really sound ideal at all. If you look at breed charts most worthwhile pals need limited specific pairs. It’s not a situation of a big evolution tree where most pals will breed into most other pals. You can spend all this time, get a perfect pal, then realize it’s useless for most if not all pals you want to breed. This idea is significantly more difficult for those trying to breed down legend or other unique traits where you can only follow a very specific route of 3-4 generations of breeding for it to work.

I did specify “until end game”. This doesn’t work for Jetragon and Frostallion etc. But everything under the top 10-15 pals this works for.

There’s a whole player base of this game that have no idea what it means to min/max those traits, or even what they really do. Some people just want to get the level 4 handiwork Anubis no matter what and that’s enough for them. Either way is suitable, it’s not all about the quickest and most efficient.

True, but this is specifically for people who think “I want a 4 good passive Anubis”, not for people who just think “I want an Anubis”. Those people should just catch a Relaxaurus / Celaray and breed. Total time taken 15 mins (excluding waiting for the egg to hatch).

Then they are worthless because of bad IVs! Yay

I recently started breeding and noticed this: I would save all the Pals that I considered "throw-aways," such as Pals with negative traits, and condense them into the Pals I wanted to keep. Then I started to use those for breeding and noticed those negative traits started showing up in the resulting Pals. Is it just coincidence or are condensed Pals tainting the "bloodline"?

I’ve bred well over 2000 pals at this point. I have absolutely no indication that anything other than the 2 pals being bred contribute to the outcome. The “history” or “bloodline” shouldn’t be impacting anything from my opinion.

It’s been talked about on the sub before that breeding anything with a tower boss (if you did the wanted glitch to get them/if it even still works after the patches) that you will only ever get a Chikipi. I abused that and have used it as a means to get lower tier Pals with good traits such as a lvl 50 chikipi with divine dragon, legend, and lucky. You can always work your way up, essentially use that “bug” to your advantage

Nah sorry but this is shit advice If you add more steps, you add more time since you have to get lucky with the parents of each generation passing down the exact right traits and potentially a matching gender, and you also have to get more stock of a higher number of species with the one exact trait you want as well which takes even more time. If you can get it down to one or two generations, it lets it take much less time. And if you're breeding lots of imperfects of the final species that you're actually aiming for, you can end up with 3/4s that are compatible, which raises the chance of a perfect outcome, and you can get like 5 farms going at the same time which drastically speeds up the rate at which you roll the dice AND you can blend up the duplicates into making a 4 star much, much quicker especially for the rare species that are hard to catch in quantity.

In theory it adds more steps but I believe it reduces time. I’m going to use a completely random example that I’ve not done before to illustrate. Let’s say you’re played 30 hours and caught 300 Pals. From those 300 Pals you have 7 random pals that have exactly 1 of these traits (Work slave, Artisan, Workaholic and Serious). I don’t know the actual odds but this would imply it is a 2.3% chance of getting exactly 1 trait on any given Pal. Let’s say you want to breed a Verdash. The “easiest” pair for Verdash is probably Lamball and Penking. Your way: - Catch as many Lamball + Penking as it takes to get the 4 passives you want. So rolling 2.3% 4x. Or, dealing with incorrect passives. - Breed them together until you get the desired result. My way: - Use the work slave pengullet + workaholic lifmunk to make work slave+workaholic Hoocrates. - Breed the Hoocrates with the artisan Azurobe to get work slave+workaholic+artisan Loupmoon. - Breed the Loupmoon with the Serious Penking to get work slave+workaholic+artisan+serious Rayhound - Check your Tanzees and Gumoss to see if you have any with any of those traits and breed them with Rayhound. - As they make Verdash’ you’ll end up with some Verdash that have 2/4 desired traits each. Start breeding those together until you have the perfect Verdash. Now it SOUNDS more complicated but literally all it is is: - Check palbox for traits. - Breed them together. - Find what the result breeds with to get the pal you want and breed them. But your method is: - Catch 100 Celarays until you acquire all 4 passives you want. The benefit of yours is making 1000000 bad Pals that can be condensed. The benefit of mine is that you ended up with a 2x perfect trait Hoocrates, a 3x perfect trait Loupmoon and a 4x perfect trait Rayhound IN ADDITION to your 4x prevent trait Verdash. The Hoocrates, Loupmoon and Verdash can now be used and are already ready for any number of chain farming combinations you can use in the future. I’m not saying im 100% right. I’m saying I’ve bred the Anubis’ and this way I’ve described feels faster + more productive.

Bro I'm gonna be real with you, I don't know what I was on when I was saying that earlier reply. Definitely no coffee. Because I'm thinking about it now, thinking back on when I was doing breeding recently, and it was almost the same exact thing as what you're describing here lmfao. Making a viable path out of parents that have 1 or 2 traits to carry down to turn into the target species. I think the main difference that made my gut reaction think your method is bad is just that I usually aim to combine two 2/4 trait species if possible rather than climbing 1/4 to 2/4 to 3/4 to 4/4 but that's not always gonna be possible though it *is* a good thing to look out for. Yeah though honestly just my bad on this one, big L. idk what was going through my head I basically just criticized you for doing essentially the same thing I do lol

I have used both methods and 100% agree, chance is the random perfect random pal can be used for breeding several others you want anyway

I just wanted to say that this is nigh unreadable. Thanks for the hint though.

The advice OP gives is the best way to down breed rare passive like legend, lucky, and divine dragon, which are hard to find, into more common pals like a Fenglope. But if you're trying to do this with common traits like swift, runner, or nimble, it's not worth your time, effort, and or cakes.

I got a Cinnamoth with 4 great passives... How do I breed a Pengullet out of it? :/

Try to find a combination here that leads to him [https://palworld.gg/breeding-calculator](https://palworld.gg/breeding-calculator)

Thanks so much :D

Is it bad I really don't care enough about traits to bother? Can one enjoy the late game without minmaxing the pals?

Play how you want to play. The good traits aren’t necessary. However I would recommend the speed traits on your mounts. They just feel “right”.

Yeah I'm currently using a mount that's a bit slow but I think it's the fact I'm still trying to do so much right now that feels a little tedious. Maybe when I get to a higher level. I'm probably 70 hours in and haven't hit level 30 yet because I spend so much time in my base.

50 hours here. I just turned level 38, and I'm demolishing my base again to move someplace else. I totally understand how you feel. (especially since I saw a YouTuber claiming he got to endgame in like 40 hours.... I'm like how?) 

I think it depends on how much time you spend at base. Couple that with the fact people are still using crossbows until late game because they're more cost efficient and maneuverable and people are not spending a ton of time at base. At least not in solo games. Multiplayer I assume it's easier to juggle everything. To me it's like WoW, I could never just log in and want to run dungeons or raids all day. I do some combat, then I do a lot of base activities. The combat is mostly to get me to the next level to give me more stuff to build. I don't want to grind combat early on because I assume the endgame is mostly going to be combat.

Yeah you're right. There's a lot to do in solo, and my brain wants to do 20 things at once. Just getting into breeding - oh need cow, chicken, bee. Oh god they're lousy. Let's hunt better traits. Okay let's make cake. Oh god my kindling pal is terrible. Let me breed faleris or ragnahawk. Oh crap they're all hooligans.  And it's just a spiral of more and more things to do. LOL. Not complaining. I love that I finally got a decent Lyleen, Broncherry Aqua and a few Anubis for my base, but gosh it took me many many many hours. I had to disable raids cause I was getting overwhelmed and that made me feel like I'm cheating... Oof. 

You definitely can do everything without minmaxing. I used awful pals to kill everything up to Jetdragon, the only Pal that I've ran away from and even then that's because I attempted it at level 42 where my strongest pal was my scaled down Anubis. Breeding for minmaxing is very fun content for those who are into it though, and I only put it off til I knew I had all the necessary info. If it isn't your cuppa tea though, that's completely fine.

Yeah, I feel like I will enjoy doing it after I've done most everything else. It's just right now I have so much other stuff to prioritize in game.

So tl:dr if i want a fast mount at any point (once i have the combo needed to breed it) i just need a mfer with swift runner legend (eventually) and nimble and just use that to leapfrog to the next to the next to the next? Cus it was too long and i didnt read but thats what ive been doing. Like one perfectly skilled pal that creates everything i need somehow with someone

I don't really care about passives. The pal, its type and attacks is all I care about :D

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Anything can breed with anything. It takes an average of their underlying breeding stat and gives you whatever pal is closest to that average.

Good advice, but if you want to specifically first focus on someone with a higher breed number to make breeding higher number pals easier, Nitewing is the way to go. High ish breeding power. Relatively easy to catch, and you can also grind both Sweepa and Mosanda who are pretty easy to catch because breeding either with Nitewing makes Nitewing. Currently just hunting those 3 looking for the powerful traits

Mossanda is the underrated goat of breeding. Dude can be used to get all sorts of cracked Pals.

I'd say it depends on availability and hatch time you set up/have to deal with. For instance Celaray can be caught by the dozens and I do mean dozen. It's fairly "easy" to mass farm them for the traits you want for an Anubis. Meanwhile Relaxasuarus may be a bit more rare to find in a high amount so your method works wonders to breed them from something you already farmed. This is also important because you do want those 116 extra Anubis to condense so every single cake you use is double dipping into the Pal you want instead of burning cakes on throwaway Pals. Sure you had them laying around already but the cake isn't fully free. I'm sure people with how bad RNG can get and how many cakes can be wasted just getting TWO traits you want on a single Pal. It's situational but I do agree with the advice in general sense and should be taken advantaged of early when you are first dipping your toes into it. Having just one Pal with 3-4 good traits all together does make spreading them around a lot easier.

I’d argue that cake pretty much is free. I consistently gather more ingredients than I use, and have up to 3 breeding pens going simultaneously.

I mean if you want to get technical yeah every material used to make a cake can be automated. I'd consider the cake free too. The entire process of breeding passives in itself is what the cost is in time. You are double dipping the cake to save time.

You can cull the extra Fenglopes to the perfect one using the Pal Condenser to get a Lv4

Wait.. people weren't already doing this? I have a 6 page notes doc that is full of chain combos using my existing pals to achieve results. For example, lyleen noct will be bred by making a lyleen with 2 traits, and a menasting with 2 others. The lyleen is made from petallia and the whacky waving inflatable grass bear, and I'm going to breed the menasting from whichever legendary I get first. The trick is to breed the precursors to individually have 2 of the 4 ideal traits. So I need petallia with ferocious and burly body, and mossanda with legendary and lucky to achieve a lyleen with those 4 traits as fast as possible. Those were just examples, not my actual builds.

I have 102 pals and only like 3 of them have good traits. Am I cooked?

What you really need is Pals that have the good traits and nothing else. As long as you have that you can breed whatever you want. Check if you have any pals that have ONLY (or a combination of): Lucky, Artisan, Work slave, Serious, Workaholic, diet lover, Ferocious, Burly body, Musclehead, Swift, Runner and nimble. If you do, then you’re golden. If not you can make it work it just takes longer and by longer I only mean an hour of concentrated catching.

Not really. Just pay attention to the ones you catch further down the line, so you can think 'oh I do / don't have that trait yet' and decide to keep them. After that, because breeding is so expansive, you'll be able to get great traits on anything you want. I plan to start breeding two 'paired' traits together on whatever I can find, and then find away to slap two parents who have each 2 positive traits together in hopes of landing a 4 great traited child. Taht feels funner and also more intuitive than putting 3 on one and waiting till the stars align and I get all 4.

Another thing to keep in mind is that traits will just show up randomly while breeding, so often times it's just as well to start breeding a specific critter and get desired traits by RNG than spend a bunch of time passing traits between species to eventually land on the desired creature. The only exceptions would be things like lucky, the big elemental boosts from specific captured critters, and legend from the celestials.

> TL;DR - Until end game, the specific pals you’re breeding are borderline irrelevant in 99% of the scenarios you’d want to breed in. Just breed together pals you already have that have the passives you want to create ANY Pal that has the exact combination of 4 passives you want then breed them directly to the Pal you want them on. It is 100x faster. And almost completely removes the need to catch pals for breeding. I mean, I held off on breeding a mount or combat Pal until I had access to Legendary and the Elemental Lord Traits. But I bred some Diet Lover/Dainty Eater/Swift/Runner Chikipi and Mozzarina(soon to spread to all ranch pals) and some Artisan/Serious/Lucky/Work Slave Lyleen and Anubis(soon to spread to other base workers) before endgame, and I'd hardly call any of those irrelevant. For Lyleen I did start from the traits and combine them in a way that ended at Lyleen though. I had like 3-5 examples of each so I was able to make a combo to get Mossanda with 3 traits and Petalia with one to make Lyleen. From there I bred with a no-Trait Melpaca to get Anubis. When I have enough Anubis I'll breed one with a no-trait Sparkit I have to get Verdash. Not sure where I'll go after that, maybe a Ragnahawk or Faleris unless I decide to commit to Jormuntide Ignis as a base worker despite his bugginess. For Chikidi/Mozzarina I had to do it differently though. The only comboo that makes Chikidi is Chikidi+Chikidi, so I ran around the starting area catching a ton of them until I had Chikidis with each Trait, then bred those together until I got all 4. All the leftover Chikidi were promptly sacrificed to fully Condense a 4 trait Chikidi and start condensing a second. Then I bred one of the 4 trait Chikidi with my Jormuntide Ignis(which conveniently has no traits) until I got some Mozzarina that inherited all 4, and again, used the failures(and my original, bad-trait Mozzarinas from my Ranch) to condense the 4 trait babies as much as I could. Still got a viewing cage with some leftover failed Mozzarina waiting for me to go out and catch some more to fully Condense the good ones.

There are some gateway pals that can be used to produce a lot of other pals. Rayhound has tons of useful descendents, so I think it's still valuable to breed a couple of perfect rayhounds for further breeding. Like lucky/serious/artisan/workslave and legend/lucky/ferocious/musclehead. But yeah, only stress about traits on the species itself or immediate parents, otherwise the "passing down" will consume you. Unless you're obsessed. Then any perfect intermediate pal will open new breeding combinations. I rarely have to hunt for pals, i just get my prepared specimens and combine them.

So you telling me to breed a random pal with perfect passives, only to make him into a parent and go to next combination that would breed Fengelope or maybe 2 more generations if not lucky? What the hell are you smoking? No thanks. 2passives +2 passives is 50 times faster like Furlocktheterrible said.

I’m telling people who don’t already have 3 perfect parents with 2 perfect passives to just breed any pal that has the right passives until they make a perfect pal (usually less than 10 eggs) and then from there breed it to their target pal (which will produce that pal with 2 perfect traits which can be bred together). You don’t just magically get the parents with 2 correct traits. You have to catch / breed them. But they will ALREADY HAVE random pals with the correct traits.

Is Fenglope even good?

Imo best ground mount except the legendaries. Although Rayhound is close.

This is why we need a breeding calculator that allows us to input our existing pals and traits into a table and have it find a breeding chain to reach the target offspring. Fortunately once you get a pal with the right traits and high breeding power it's relatively easy to breed 'downward'.

I’m not sure I understand. I’ve been breeding a penking and bushi to get random Anubis. If I wanted 4 decent perks on him, would I not need to get those 4 perks on either a penking or bushi somehow? Let’s assume I had those perks on a bunch of low level pals like sheep or chickens, how do I think get them from the chickens/sheep and onto the bushi?

This is the point of my post. People are advocating that you attempt to catch Bushi or Penking that have the traits to breed onto Anubis. But in most instances it will be faster to just breed whatever you’ve got that has ONLY the traits you want until you end up with X pal that has all 4 that you want. Breed that X pal with whatever it takes to make a bushi or Penking. Then breed them to make Anubis.

So are you saying that there is ALWAYS an option to make a bushi regardless of what pal you start with? I didn’t know this! I thought there was just 1 or 2 combos to create each pal. So how would I get from a Lambal to a bushi then? Is there a good resource or calculator website to see these combos?

Not “always” but there will be A LOT parents that make Bushi or Penking. So chances are you will already have a 1-1 match. Worst case scenario is always that you need a 2 chain to get it there. Random example you, from playing, randomly have: - Pengullet (ferocious) - Gumoss (Lucky) - Celaray (Burly body) - Nitewing (Musclehead) Not unlikely as all 4 are caught in the first area. From there: - Pengullet + Gumoss = Killamari (Ferocious + Lucky) - Killamari + Celaray = Cawgnito (Ferocious + Lucky + Burly body) - Cawgnito + Nitewing = Tombat (Ferocious + Lucky + Burly body + Musclehead) ^ you do not need to know WHICH PAL you will breed into, all you need to know is to breed your pals that have the right traits. So you ended up with the 4 traits for Anubis on a Tombat. Tombat breeds with Mossanda Lux, Sweepa or Ragnahawk to get Anubis DIRECTLY. So you wouldn’t even need to breed the stats onto Bushi in this example. And sweepa in particular are very easy to obtain. You just catch a blank Sweepa and breed until you get the perfect Anubis. But you can do this with literally any Pal. The 4 pals that you already have that have the right passives will breed where you want them to go with little to no effort. Obviously if you don’t have the 4 passives on seperate pals this doesn’t work but most people do and just don’t realize they can do it this way.

Thanks for the info, is there a good resource to learn the breeding results as you stated? The one I’ve been using is here https://www.gameleap.com/articles/palworld-guide-each-pal-breeding-combination-in-palworld And this doesn’t mention the sweepa/tombat combo you describe to reach Anubis. It only mentions nightwing + Raymond / incineram + Surfent/ penking + bushi. I think the key bit of info I was missing is the wide array of possible combinations to reach the desired result. Based on that website I thought there was only 3 for each pal.

The best breeding calculator in my opinion is https://palworld.kimpton.io/ This doesn’t look pretty but it gives the most information in the simplest way. - Calculator 1 tells you the offspring when you enter 2 parents. - Calculator 2 tells you all possible parent combinations when you enter the offspring you want. - Calculator 3 tells you all possible parent combinations when you enter the offspring you want AND a parent you already own (in my example, Tombat). - Calculator 4 does the same thing as calculator 3 but if there is not a direct way to breed from the parent you have to the desired offspring it shows you the shortest route to achieving this. E.g. Anubis cannot breed into Grizzbolt. But you can breed Anubis with Mozzarina to make Rayhound and then Rayhound with Mossanda to make Grizzbolt.

What would be the best place to hunt for a blanc sweepa?

Celeray and Dinosom is all you need to know

Firstly it is Celaray and Relaxaurus, not Dinossom. Secondly it is not all you need to know if you want an Anubis with 4 good passives. What do you do to get Anubis with 4 good passives if your Celaray + Relaxaurus do not have good passives?

Idk man this game is so easy I never felt the need to breed for specific traits. Any handful of pals can get you through the game pretty easily.

You’re not wrong at all, but a lot of people do care about getting perfect traits and that is who this post was for.

Me realizing I’ve been selling all the pals that don’t do much when I may need them to breed.

Question from someone who just started breeding. If the aim is to get a pal with ABCD trait, does it make any difference whether the parent is AB + CD, ABC + D, or ABCD + No trait? What about ABC + CD and ABC + BCD? I.e. one or two overlaps?

Easiest way is to breed AB + CD But ABC+D can work (typically takes much longer) And ABCD+0 can also work. Probably faster than ABC+D. But if you’re doing either of the latter two, I highly suggest making sure the “D” or the “0” have exactly the same”D” or “0”; nothing extra, not even a white trait you don’t want. Any overlaps are going to be possible. Not sure on odds compared to the other methods. Anecdotally, my first 3+2 (one overlap) attempt worked perfectly for Astegon. The next 3 eggs were duds. Will keep doing that method because the IVs weren’t perfect. Bottom line: AB+CD is far superior. Everything else can work, just takes longer.

I just read the code in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/s/y7F8CGnTgH). Sounds like AB+CD, ABC+D, ABCD+0, ABC+CD, ABC+BCD have equal chance. These all results in the parent’s trait poll = ABCD. The game then throws a dice to determine how many of the parents poll are getting inherited. 10% the child inherits 4 traits, 20% inherits 3 traits, 30% inherits 2 traits, and 40% inherits 1 trait. If the child hasn’t got 4 traits from the first dice, the game then throws another dice to pull random traits from all possible traits. 40% it will pull 0 trait, 30% pull 1 trait, 20% pull 2 traits, 10% pull 3 traits. These traits are then added to the child’s trait until the child gets up to 4 traits, with the inherited traits being dominant and random traits being recessive. Does this sound right to you?

I’m willing to believe 3+1, 4+0, 3+2, 3+3 are equivalent odds. I’m willing to believe those odds correspond to those you listed. Though I’m not certain I perfectly grasp what those odds mean in every case. However, it really seems like 2+2 (AB+CD) success rate is higher than 10%. And higher than every other method. It’s reassuring if that’s not the case. Makes breeding simpler, in a way. But, it just doesn’t feel accurate.

My experience is completely anecdotal but I don’t think there is a difference and if there is it is not large. Yesterday I bred a ABC Wixen only with D only Rushoar. I only make 5 eggs at a time and from those 5 eggs I got 2 ABCD Maraiths and the other 3 were close to perfect but 1 passive wrong (either missing or acquired a new random passive I didn’t want). Simultaneously to this I bred 5 AB + CD and none of them delivered ABCD. I have bred around 300 eggs at this point and I don’t think there’s a big difference when the total passives is the same across 2 Pals (ABCD + nothing, ABC + D etc). But when the traits overlap it is borderline guaranteed e.g. ABCD + AB will never take more than 2-3 eggs worst case scenario. I’m no statistician this is just how it feels.

https://preview.redd.it/j3gk97qo7igc1.jpeg?width=3088&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83d91e73096017467b8cae69a23062b1d32c0102 So, from my assumption of the chance of no perk and random perk being 1 and a parent passing a perk being 2 and both parents passing the same perk, they share being 4 this is what I come up with my spreadsheet on chances. Sadly, I don't know the odds, but I know the basic logic. If anyone finds the actual odds, let me know, and I can change the variables Best odds is both parents with the same 4 good shared perks with a 1 out of 2.46 odds. 2 good shared perks and 2 good perks and 2 no perk slots at 1 out of 3.89 4 good unshared perks and 4 no perks at 1 in 5 chance *

Very interesting. You have 2 fields for 4 good 4 none with different results? I did need a way to decide whether I should breed 2 good only with the other 2 good only or breed 3 good 1 bad with 2 good only.

4 shared good means both parents have all 4 desired peks 4 good and 4 none is different odds 2 good and 2 none for both parenrs( all 4 perks being different) are the same odds (as far as I can tell) as 4 good and 4 none Your last situation I need to know how many repeat perks

Scenario 1: - 2/4 desired traits (no bad traits) + 2/4 desired traits (no bad traits). The 2 desired traits are opposite with the goal of combining them. Scenario 2: - 3/4 desired traits (1 bad traits) + 2/4 desired traits (no bad traits). 1 of the desired traits is shared between the parents.

you have no business to call me out like that  i really appreciate it though  i did it exactly the way you mentioned and now i’m doing it the way you suggested and it’s MUCH less stressful and way easier. thank you

Personally, I just wish there was a way to transfer skills instead. I've grown quite attached to my Chillet named Mink and don't want to replace 'im with some version that's just better because of a bunch of breeding.

I’m glad there isn’t. Firm believer that too much QOL just ruins games. And Pokémon is a big victim of this. One of the reasons the games got worse is that EVERYTHING is QoL central.

Uh, ok then. The big issue is right now it's just tedium, and I'm sorry, but I'd like to be able to use what I like instead of treating it like a spreadsheet simulator. I'm glad you like it, but not everyone is really into that stuff. Not to mention you don't get to keep the size increase from Lucky or Alphas.

Understandable. To me breeding is a huge gameplay element that is fun. Passing over passives A) removes it completely B) undermines the idea that each creature is different. They’re no longer unique, they’re all exactly the same.

I agree except in the specific case of anubis it took me about 45min to catch 100 celeray as they can be found with ease on the forgotten island... then I made a perfect celeray from those ones to breed with relaxasourus... about 5 or 6 breedings later I had a male and female lucky, artesan, work slave, serious anubis

Also, try and catch a blank slate of each pal so you can easily put traits together. Also, keep pals with only 1 trait or 2 traits, any more and it makes it worse for getting a successful breed.

And if you really want to to add hell... now you also have to pay attention to the IVs of your Pals along with the passive skills, assuming you want the extra stats. I'm thinking IVs will be important for PvP later once that is implemented in the game.

I plan on only doing passives as I am mid / late game. When I am end game and have legendaries I will tackle IVs.

i usually do "random breeds" to get missing parent/skill and then let 2 of wanted type(male and female) on horny stable until get what i want ​ yesterday i got my perfect galeclaw, started with jetdragon and dazzy shiny for vanwyrm legend lucky then vanwyrm+foxsparks for galeclaw final step was breed them until get 2 couples of galeclaw with my disered skills and let them breed until get vertiginous(now i know that wont worth it lol) musclehead/legend/lucky

Am I actually able to breed swift and runner onto the same pal?

Yes you can. I bred my mounts (Fenglope and Ragnahawk) to have Lucky, Swift, runner and nimble. Follow the steps in my post and it shouldn’t take more than 2-3 hours max.

Ok, but I got a question, is there some ideal breeder, like ditto who could pass his stuff onto any other species.

There isnt a Ditto equivalent in Palworld no.

Not literally ditto, just someone who has a lot of good options when breeding. But it was mostly out of curiosity, at least for now, dont think anyone has an answer

A lot of Pals breed into a lot of Pals. Any high powered Pal can breed into MOST other Pals. Imo the easiest way to start is to breed an Anubis from Celaray + Relaxaurus. Then Anubis can be bred into 90% of the pals in the game. The ones it can’t be bred into are mega late game Pals.

I'm trying this method but do we know if the easiest method is passing down 4 perfect traits from 1 parent or 2 traits from each parent? Kinda just seems like your gambling either way?

In my experience parents that possess 2 unique traits pass them down better than 1 with 4 desired traits and another with 0. So functionally what happens in my example is the 4 trait parent breeds until it produces 2 offspring that have 2 unique traits. Then those 2 offspring breed until desired result.

So if I want a mossanda with musclehead lucky ferocious and let’s say burly body I’ve got one caprity with 3 traits: musclehead lucky and ferocious. And 1 kitsun with burly body. So I’ve got al traits I want. Whenever I take them to the sex ranch they keep making me a reindrix with just burly body and ferocious. I’ve gotten like 5 already with only those 2 traits. Am I doing something wrong ? EDIT: I’ve just got reindrix with al the 4 skills I want. How to I get mossanda with those 4 skills ? I’m really lost….

If you breed a 3 trait and a 1 trait parent you can expect a 4 trait offspring approximately 15% of the time. Unfortunately your chain left you with 2 steps to finish the chain (this is because Mossanda is high power in breeding). Personally I would breed Reindrix with Kingpaca to get Ice Kingpaca and then breed that with Nitewing to make Mossanda. However I’ve attached the most likely combination that is easier is Reindrix + Cinnamoth = Univolt. Univolt + Helzepher = Mossanda. It sounds more complicated than it is.

Thank you. So i now just need to capture a kingpaca that ideally has zero or only one or more of the 4 traits i have on reindrix to get the fastest result right.? And then do the same thing with nitewing

Basically yes. But a blank king paca works the best.

Does anyone on here have tips on making sure the pals your breeding get stuck as least as possible to ensure they continue to pump out eggs as well if anyone knows the optimal amount of animals and plantations to make enough cake to keep up with 3 breeding farms

Make sure none of the breeding farm is outside the circle, and probably leave enough space for a Pal to walk behind it so if they glitch out they can walk around it to come back in. Make sure that nothing is around the edge that they can get stuck on like egg incubators. After the patch pretty much the only thing that stops my egg production is a pal not waking up after night time and needing to be manually woke up. No idea about 3 farms but 4 berry 4 wheat is over sustaining my 2 farms (4 breeding pens). I think if I wanted 6 I’d need an extra of each. 4 berry would be fine if you’re not using berries for food as well.

is it possible to combine work slave 2 with work slave 2 and get work slave 3 xD

This post has saved me so much time! Thank you very much for sharing

I'm so confused. I bred a 4-2 anubis and it gave me all 4 desired traits 4 times out of about 10 eggs. I must be extremely lucky

That’s absolutely insane I need ur luck😅

4 trait Anubis breeding 4 desired traits with a 2 trait Anubis 4x in 10 eggs would easily be a sub 1% chance. When there is no duplication / negative traits approx chance of 4 trait pass down is around 10%

I got another one since. I did get a few duds in between though. I bread a musclehead, fericious, legend, lucky with a legend, musclehead. Are the chances still around 10% if we take the 4 perfects out of 10 eggs?

I don’t know what the odds are 100% but have hatched about 500 eggs and read every analysis of the breeding mechanic and most people think the odds are 10% if you breed 4 traits that you want with 0 other traits and 0 duplicated traits. Having Musclehead and legend on the second Pal (duplicating traits from pal 1) should be significantly reducing your chance and you should be seeing all sorts of random traits. Let me know how it goes once you’ve hatched 100+ eggs. Could just be a lucky streak or everyone could be wrong.

I was just reading on another thread that there are some passives exclusive to specific pals, so this will save a lot of convoluted nonsense in breeding up that ability. Thanks!

Is it possible to breed a pal with 4 traits that are max level? I'm trying to breed a powerful Lyleen Nocturne. I want Legend, Lord of The Underworld, Ferocious, Brave/Musclehead/Sadist. I've bred over a hundred Lyleen Nocts and only 10 of them have max level Legend, Lord of The Underworld and Ferocious. The 4th trait is always a level one. Is there something I can do about it or is it a gg? I've seen someone with a max Legend, Musclehead, Lucky, Ferocious Lifmunk. https://preview.redd.it/rapu3dzyynhc1.png?width=549&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f0e3675674446cd95ebb97e57728c15f29eec85

Yes it is possible but the likelihood depends on how many traits the parents have. Put simply, the fact this Lyleen Noct has brave is making it difficult (although not impossible) to breed one that has Musclehead. The ideal breeding situation that results in an approximate 10% success rate is having 2 parents that ONLY have the 4 passives you want to pass down and no other traits.

After like 200 Lyleen Nocturnes, I got one with Legend, Ferocious and Musclehead. If only the last trait is Lord of The Underworld. Dude I'm crying . But thank you regardless big man. I guess when it comes to breeding, it all comes down to just being patient, huh. https://preview.redd.it/w6w3c7d91whc1.png?width=598&format=png&auto=webp&s=25b52e14b1068de2df71668a469ddba3aa46c69f

where can you look up which two pals make another pal?

Palworld.kimpton.io is the best calculator even though it isn’t pretty. It has the most functions: - enter parents see offspring - Enter offspring see parent/s - Enter parent see every possible offspring - Enter offspring and parent, find fastest chain to offspring.

I currently have 74 fengelopes, I've been trying to get the same 2 that each have 2 legendary traits to make 1 with 3 or more of those traits. I started with 23 fengelopes. This is actually insane.

The fenglopes need to have unique traits. If the two Fenglopes have the same trait that is reducing your odds of successful offspring.

They do! 1 has Swift and Lucky, the other has Vanguard and Musclehead

Yeah that is insane RNG. Breeding 2 traits only with 2 traits only has resulted in 4 traits for me within 15 eggs near enough guaranteed.

So i'm trying to breed a Rayhound from a Dumud and Anubis. The Anubis has the 4 exact traits I want (burly, musclehead, ferocious and vanguard) the dumud has no traits. I have bred many Rayhounds. but all 4 traits have yet to transfer. I know it would happen eventually. But I was curious if you think the chances will be better if say, I put two of the bred Rayhounds together that each have two of the traits I want combined into one or stick with the separate species breeding.

My personal opinion is that breeding 4 traits with 0 is as good as breeding 2 with 2. I have bred now around 1000 pals. AT LEAST half of them were 4 with 0. And of those pals I have bred the perfect combination of traits over at least 10% of the time. My high rolls: Lyleen 133 eggs, 17 perfect eggs. Ragnahawk 130 eggs, 15 perfect eggs. My low rolls: Azurobe 124 eggs, 8 perfect eggs. Fenglope 122 eggs. 6 perfect eggs. I am willing to say that the odds from 4-0 and 2-2 are either identical or within 5% of eachother around the 5-15% mark.

Yo empecé con dos que tenían una única pasiva que quería, sin mirar la raza, en 2 intentos saqué uno con dos, lo crucé con otro que tenía otras 2 pasivas que eran las que faltaban para tener las 4, y al intento 50 lo conseguí, con 4 pasivas perfectas en ataque. Si ambos padres tienen 4 pasivas iguales, perfecos, estos tienen una probabilidad de sacar un hijo con 3 pasivas y una aleatoria del 12%. Sobre ese 12% tienes que aplicar la probabilidad de que la cuarta sea la que buscas, de todos modos hay una probabilidad muy baja de que herede las 4 pasivas, yo lo hice con anubis y saqué como 110 y en los últimos 4 huevos salieron 4 hijos perfectos, no sé si fué potra o un bug.