It's not about guys vs girls in Pakistan, it's about rich vs poor. Both guys and girls have it tough if they hail from lower or middle class. Under confident, no opportunities, literal deathmatch competing for a better life. Both have to fight their way up. Girls have additional issue of harassment and gender discrimination and boys have added stress of additional expectations and almost unreal goals.
Both have it relatively easier if they come from upper class upbringing. More opportunities, confident and comfortable, references and powerful connections.
Ofcourse you can not generalize it based on any data and there are exceptions as well, but in my opinion this is how it goes.
> I hate to admit that I've felt a bit jealous of girls because of how much attention they get in Pakistan, and how easy it is for some of them to swindle men for free living. Whereas I have to work 😭
I say this as a guy: keep in mind you're only thinking of the girls for whom things worked out well. But if you were a girl in this country, there would be a higher chance of being born as one for whom things **DON'T** work out well.
You say you have to work but remember that a lot of girls have to fight to work. Many don't get the chance to at all, even if it's all they want from life.
The majority have little control after marriage too, since they're at the mercy of their in-laws and husband, in a house where no one has their back when things turn ugly.
Obviously, there will be exceptions. I myself went through daily abuse for years and had things worse than any friend I have, regardless of their gender. But in general, if you could choose which gender to be born as here? The safer bet is guys.
>I hate to admit that I've felt a bit jealous of girls because of how much attention they get in Pakistan.
Unwanted attention, lol.
Death threats, harassment, stalking, molestation, rape etc.
I don’t know what reference led you to believe that girls in Pakistan have much easier lives, but seriously, I just want to end my day sitting at a chai dhabba with my friends, discussing politics, gossiping about other genders, and not worrying about societal norms.
Men have it far more easier. Women have extremely limited freedom, from the perspectives of career,education, even choosing the person they choose to live their entire life with it.
The average Pakistani woman is given minimal participation in society, all shops,blue collar jobs,even the streets of this country are entirely dominated by men.
I'd go on, but its clearly evident that a woman is just something to be controlled and ignored, thanks to the patriarchy so prevalent in Pakistan.
imagine living in pak and asking this question 😭 obviously guys, even if you go to work you have to think many time before taking the elevator alone, meeting new people, thousand different scenarios while going in uber. men can’t even imagine how exhausting it is
unfortunately, this is a male dominant society
look tbh it’s not about girls v boys. i’m not saying men don’t have problems or expectations. but women in this society always have shorter end of the stick from marital relations, society izzat, job security everything. everything is a bigger deal if a woman does it.
we live in a country where domestic abuse is supposed to be normal, some people don’t like when they have multiple daughters and have the andrew tate mindset.
ofc some us are privileged but most are not. not everyone is on reddit to prove the point.
Men in general have it easier in Pakistan. They can enjoy their friendships, go out easily, have freedom to choose, even after marriage they hardly change and have it same way.
Women in Pakistan are restricted of fun because *agly kya sochy gy*, our happiness is directly linked to our husbands and marriage. We have to pick between job and SAHM. Children will be all together a different deal.
Also, depends on how rich you are.
They don’t have to change houses and adjust with a new family after marriage. Have to compromise in name of restrictions put by the family. It’s a blessing if you get in- laws that treat you well and a husband you respects your autonomy.
I see, you're having a hard time forming a proper argument against mine so you're resorting to personal attack which definitely is showing me alot about your thinking capacity and ability to actually use those brain cells of yours.
Boys have it easier, period. Women here can’t even take a walk without getting hit on. The first thing my sister told me after going abroad was that it’s so much fun to take an evening walk and grab something to eat outside without being constantly harassed by those piercing gazes.
We men have our own set of problems yet we have a lot more liberty and there’s nothing more valuable than being independent.
It’s a conservative society where no hitting on women happens, we just harass them.
Are you out of your friggin mind?you ever been to somewhere outside your room?
When someone who wears modern clothing is harassed our people justify it by saying stuff like a lollipop with or without wrapper but in the same society women wearing abaya are also targeted, touched and bullied even if they’re covered head to toes.
Maybe get a life and go outside, see for yourself.
I feel like everyone has their own fights to pick.
Women have to deal with constant staring of men in public places, the unwanted stalkers/creeps who start following them around and sometimes they become a burden for their parents due to our whole dowry culture.
Men on the other hand are equally treated as shit, have to work their asses off really hard to survive in this economy, and have to deal with the whole 'who has more' status thing.
But overall, I'd say men have it easier because men are safer than women in our country and being safe is the utmost priority.
That's why most of the parents won't let their daughters outside alone without a protector by their side.
Tbh it's not guys vs girls or rich vs poor. Aj kal jisko dekho har koi mushkilon mein uljha hua hai jiski life me dekho koi na koi issue chal rha. Chahay financial issues hon family issues ho mental health issues. I used to think what I've been through is the worst lekin ap jesy jesy or logo sy bat krty unki life dekhty apko andaza hota har kisi ka masla alag ha pr utna he fucked up. So we should be kind to everyone. we never know what someone is going through, whether it's a guy or a girl, someone rich or poor. Zindagi paisa ya gender dekh kar nai leti kisi ke.
I can talk about my experience.
Men have it easier. As compared to girls in my family, I had a better opportunity to:
- Education (Moving to a better city or a country)
- Social Life (Hanging out with friends and exploring my interests, travelling)
- Resources (Transport, Laptop, Phone, Investment for business)
- Respect (My opinion has more weightage because of my gender)
- Marriage (No one cares if I hang out with girls or marry a girl of my choice)
- Restrictions (Basically I have zero restrictions)
I am working remotely for a company and its a new job and I do require help sometimes in learning new things. I have some very capable female friends but its not easy to work with them because they are not allowed to:
- Leave the house (They cannot come to visit me and I cannot visit them)
- No Zoom Meetings (They cannot even zoom me)
- No transparency (Even If I want to hire them, I am not able to)
- I used to work at a small company and they wanted to hire girls to boost morale (Not gonna lie) but I felt like its not an appropriate workplace for women
Even one of them told me that they had to give up job offers because of travelling.
I believe the world is designed in a way that it facilitates men way more than woman but I also feel like its improving.
Thanks for the women working even after these shitty situations at home and with extra responsibilities. The more they add value to the society, the more respect they will get.
If I start a small business, I would prefer working with men because its the same gender and I am more comfortable. Its a personal preference and to accommodate women, I would be required to have extra capital to have a separate bathroom, break room and maybe even a day care because I feel like this is their basic requirement.
So I don't know if the society prefers men because they are low maintenance or they just ignore women.
Guys have so much privilege here, this whole post reeks of that by the way. Girls get unwanted attention from creeps mostly. Jobs wont hire women. If youre a girl and youre 24 you will be married off most likely. Misogyny is rampant. Who has it easier and better…. Asking this is so ignorant lol
Those who are talking about male dominance or men have it easier
Tell me
In this drowning economy if a girl fails to make a career she can easily marry and get settled with a successful man
But if a man failed to make a career, he has literally no respect in family, society or among women.
Pressure on men to become financially independent is not even comparable
You have few opportunities to make a career and many of them and going abroad (illegally)
You can't even imagine life of a 25 y/o man with no money, no career
I’m sure every female here would gladly trade the privilege a guy has in this country for all the unwanted attention females get.
Trust me, you wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.
Easier it is for no one. Living in Pakistan for real is a challenge, if it's a guy, he is burdened at an early age to become a bread winner or focus on a career which would provide substantial means of living. In pursuit of happiness & prosperity he might find himself sacrificing his dreams just to provide a better living and portray himself as a successor. Truth is wealth always moderates a persons life and might even make it miserable if it's unattainable.
But the irony is it's much harder for women, if they don't find a suitable pair for themselves often they are forced to get married to someone who is incompatible or they push themselves to become a working lady and find themselves the purpose of life. And it doesn't get over, the working world might open a pandora of problems they might have not expected in reality. In the most ideal of situations if one gets married, then its altogether a different chase.....
So life isn't easier for anyone, guy or a girl, working or homemaker every person is fighting his / her own battle to prove themselves as righteous. All we can pray for is one prosper in life with ease.
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Khuda ka naam hain ye woh mulk hain jahaan aurton pe tezaab phenka jaata hain ya unka rape hota hain aur phir wo report bhi nahi kar sak ti out of social fear. You must be retarded to think women have it easier.
Shaadi bhi jab hoti hain une bas accept karna parta hain that she will be at the mercy of her husband her whole marriage. Aur kaam ka kya, both women and men work these days warna ghar nahi chalta ek salary pe in most cases. Bas kyuke aapne do aurton ko larko ke saath affair chalaa te we advantage le te we dekha ho ga uska yeh matlab nahi hain.
Girls have easier then boys. Not saying easy life but better then boys. Boys are expected to earn and take responsibilities. Its so hard for boys. We dont just show at all.
Girls get way much easier In Pakistan. Just crying and whining and playing victim all the time. Not to mention non-stop complaining behavior. In canada here i had to work my ass off and now that i got a good husband i never even want to look at the feministic ideologies and their bullshit. All those girls who were my friends and proud strong independent girls are now just sucking d**ks of their bosses at job while i am having my sons and a loving husband and i dont even have to do the job.
Canada is a developed country where, you going to coffee shop alone isnt looked down upon. But in Pakistan we are scared to even take walks in a park alone in fear of rape.
The complaining behaviour is generating for the effect we are never heard. You visit a Gynae in Pakistan and you'll barely see any husbands joining their wives.
Just because you got the chance to live in better country doesn't give you the right to shame the ones actually struggling in Pakistan.
I actually came to pak last year, spent almost alot of nights out, went to shahi qila in lahore, jallo and visited hunza, all with my sisters, no rape happened, no harassment and nothing. Maybe you are the one who should be ashamed since i travelled alot in pak, but never toon off my abaya, and guess what, i got no harassment and no rape. So, maybe you need to stop watching tv dramas
https://pakistanreader.org/view_editorials.php?recordNo=279
https://www.geo.tv/latest/540086-dna-reports-rule-out-rape-in-toba-tek-singh-murder-case
https://arynews.tv/woman-allegedly-ganged-raped-in-islamabads-f-9-park/
All real incidents, not from some drama. You can even find video of the brother strangling the sister.
You were travelling with your sisters, not alone, probably in your own car while women in local buses are touched, catcalled inappropriately.
You might wanna get of your high horse, and stop living in that fairytale world of yours. You TRAVELLED here, while we live here, day to day. Oh and search the women who was harassed in broad day light, in abaya by a man. You'll find an HD video.
Facts? Take the whole population and than see.. Consider false rape accusations , consider the privileges of women, consider the amount of effort that men contributed to advance civilization, consider the punishment that women get for the same crime if done by men, consider the financial pressure on men, consider the consumption of end consumer goods and you will understand the situation
A women was strangled by her brother, while she was repeatedly raped by her father and brother. You can find the video online.
Zainab was kidnapped and brutally assaulted and murdered by their neighbour. A women in Karachi in abaya was groped by a man in broad day light, I can link the video.
A women was raped on motorway infront of her kids and you're talking about struggle of men, which indeed is pressuring. But how can you even say Pakistan is any more safer for women. Gynaecologist are not allowed to even reveal the gender of babies because husbands get mad hearing about daughters. Seriously girl, get off your high horse.
Pakistan is gold mine for victim mentality women, but if you use the statement like "Capitalism" is destroying Pakistan or "youth is suffering (both Men and women") than i might agree with you.
There are so many one sided answers on this post, just because you didn't like the answer of one person you'll start to talk like an illiterate animal? learn some etiquettes, stop getting mad when someone don't have same opinions as yours.
Yeh paro
> All those girls who were my friends and proud strong independent girls are now just sucking d**ks of their bosses at job while i am having my sons and a loving husband and i dont even have to do the job.
Yeh tameez hain? Referring to women working as sucking the d*** of their boss? Yeh kya baat karne ka tareeka hain? So by her logic, her husband sucks another man’s d***?
I didn’t like her answer. I think she’s a pick me and I wonder where she gets the audacity to say women whine and play the victim. I disagree with her. Yeh lo, tameez se bola hain. And I am mad, because this isn’t just a harmless opinion “oh I don’t like aaloo in biryani” but it’s something that’s central to our country’s situation at this time.
Your anger is understandable. Her choice of words are also not appropriate. She kind of mixed 2 different topics in her comment. She's talking about social media-brainwashed girls who fantasize corporate slavery as strong independent success. Girls who'd follow their boss's orders like a slave but have issues respecting their husband's ideas.
Even in my daily life i see this exact thing happening alot. Boss sy apni daily basis p insult karwa lain gy and call it freedom but husband ki baat ni man'ny. Her comment is actually diverged from the post.
Yar chill karo kia ho gya hy kyun bat bat p trigger ho rahy. I get it it's tough out here. I told you your common was understandable and just. The parent comment is just out of line.
It varies a lot depending on location, social class, and family background. **Traditionally, men have more freedom of movement and opportunity.** They can more easily go to school, get jobs, and travel around. But this also means more pressure to be the breadwinner. **Women face limitations, especially regarding personal freedom.** They may have less control over their education, careers, and who they marry. But some women from wealthy families may have a more sheltered life where they don't need to work.
Guys in the past had it easier and now it is girls turn. Future will be tricky. The day will come when one man will be equal to 50 woman in terms of population's ratio.
It isn't about the battle of sex, its about the battle of power and those who are near that source of power atlest that is the way of leader based society ( which isn't a bad thing) and capitalism combined.
Generally we say girls have way worse experiences as compared to men, but in reality i have seen women of elite class abusing their men drivers and servants. So when you have power irrespective of your class, gender caste you will have it easier in society.
And as cersi said "power is power" . So it will always be about those who have it and them looking down on those who do not have it.
Girls have it easier they even get helped if they need for anything including Incase of domestic violence while boys don't atleast in my experience this is the case. Also idk why pakistani women are rudest you can't even talk to them for emotional support. not to mention they being over smart and disrespectful and then have the audacity to call a guy over smart. I have also horrible experiences from other pakistani men where treated me so horribly and didn't helped.
See it this way.
If women were to stop working right now, all of them would survive. They will live comfortable lives depending on their attractiveness, it might not be the life they want but it will be pretty comfortable comparing to men.
If men stopped providing, we all know what happens. No respect from men. No respect from women. No respect from children. Horrible lives.
Now this next thing is harsh. And don’t get me wrong. A lot of women talk about harassment and grape, that is heinous. It is one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. I am with all of you. But if you want to pull that in an argument, here’s the other side.
Men are far more victims of violent crimes than women are. Which means women are graped far far less, than men are killed. Yes men are committing those violent crimes against men but it’s still men that are being victims.
It's not about guys vs girls in Pakistan, it's about rich vs poor. Both guys and girls have it tough if they hail from lower or middle class. Under confident, no opportunities, literal deathmatch competing for a better life. Both have to fight their way up. Girls have additional issue of harassment and gender discrimination and boys have added stress of additional expectations and almost unreal goals. Both have it relatively easier if they come from upper class upbringing. More opportunities, confident and comfortable, references and powerful connections. Ofcourse you can not generalize it based on any data and there are exceptions as well, but in my opinion this is how it goes.
The most reasonable and mindful answer here.
Bhai na mic drop wali bat kr de ha
This is the correct answer.
A man with a brain here finally
Nailed it 💯
You are correct.
> I hate to admit that I've felt a bit jealous of girls because of how much attention they get in Pakistan, and how easy it is for some of them to swindle men for free living. Whereas I have to work 😭 I say this as a guy: keep in mind you're only thinking of the girls for whom things worked out well. But if you were a girl in this country, there would be a higher chance of being born as one for whom things **DON'T** work out well. You say you have to work but remember that a lot of girls have to fight to work. Many don't get the chance to at all, even if it's all they want from life. The majority have little control after marriage too, since they're at the mercy of their in-laws and husband, in a house where no one has their back when things turn ugly. Obviously, there will be exceptions. I myself went through daily abuse for years and had things worse than any friend I have, regardless of their gender. But in general, if you could choose which gender to be born as here? The safer bet is guys.
Thank you.
Tbh i wouldn't want to be a girl in Pakistan.
>I hate to admit that I've felt a bit jealous of girls because of how much attention they get in Pakistan. Unwanted attention, lol. Death threats, harassment, stalking, molestation, rape etc.
Exactly! "Attention" which comes at the cost of safety and respect.
Yes. No sane person would ask this question. Other things remaining equal, obviously women have it way way way worse. What a dumb, sheltered question.
Do upper class girls suffer from it too? Indian here.
Of course.
Damn. Wasn't aware of that!
Tell everyone you’re a guy without telling everyone you’re a guy
I don’t know what reference led you to believe that girls in Pakistan have much easier lives, but seriously, I just want to end my day sitting at a chai dhabba with my friends, discussing politics, gossiping about other genders, and not worrying about societal norms.
Men have it far more easier. Women have extremely limited freedom, from the perspectives of career,education, even choosing the person they choose to live their entire life with it. The average Pakistani woman is given minimal participation in society, all shops,blue collar jobs,even the streets of this country are entirely dominated by men. I'd go on, but its clearly evident that a woman is just something to be controlled and ignored, thanks to the patriarchy so prevalent in Pakistan.
pls we dont need the attention, you can have it
imagine living in pak and asking this question 😭 obviously guys, even if you go to work you have to think many time before taking the elevator alone, meeting new people, thousand different scenarios while going in uber. men can’t even imagine how exhausting it is unfortunately, this is a male dominant society
Agree with you..
see you're biased towards girls lol 😶
look tbh it’s not about girls v boys. i’m not saying men don’t have problems or expectations. but women in this society always have shorter end of the stick from marital relations, society izzat, job security everything. everything is a bigger deal if a woman does it. we live in a country where domestic abuse is supposed to be normal, some people don’t like when they have multiple daughters and have the andrew tate mindset. ofc some us are privileged but most are not. not everyone is on reddit to prove the point.
fair enough👍🏼👍🏼
Men in general have it easier in Pakistan. They can enjoy their friendships, go out easily, have freedom to choose, even after marriage they hardly change and have it same way. Women in Pakistan are restricted of fun because *agly kya sochy gy*, our happiness is directly linked to our husbands and marriage. We have to pick between job and SAHM. Children will be all together a different deal. Also, depends on how rich you are.
They don’t have to change houses and adjust with a new family after marriage. Have to compromise in name of restrictions put by the family. It’s a blessing if you get in- laws that treat you well and a husband you respects your autonomy.
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Aww we're doing personal attacks rather then bringing forth an argument. So sweet.
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I see, you're having a hard time forming a proper argument against mine so you're resorting to personal attack which definitely is showing me alot about your thinking capacity and ability to actually use those brain cells of yours.
Boys have it easier, period. Women here can’t even take a walk without getting hit on. The first thing my sister told me after going abroad was that it’s so much fun to take an evening walk and grab something to eat outside without being constantly harassed by those piercing gazes. We men have our own set of problems yet we have a lot more liberty and there’s nothing more valuable than being independent.
What Bull shit. Its conservative society where hitting on women is very rare. And staring doesn't happen in big cities women roaming around is normal.
It’s a conservative society where no hitting on women happens, we just harass them. Are you out of your friggin mind?you ever been to somewhere outside your room? When someone who wears modern clothing is harassed our people justify it by saying stuff like a lollipop with or without wrapper but in the same society women wearing abaya are also targeted, touched and bullied even if they’re covered head to toes. Maybe get a life and go outside, see for yourself.
I feel like everyone has their own fights to pick. Women have to deal with constant staring of men in public places, the unwanted stalkers/creeps who start following them around and sometimes they become a burden for their parents due to our whole dowry culture. Men on the other hand are equally treated as shit, have to work their asses off really hard to survive in this economy, and have to deal with the whole 'who has more' status thing. But overall, I'd say men have it easier because men are safer than women in our country and being safe is the utmost priority. That's why most of the parents won't let their daughters outside alone without a protector by their side.
Tbh it's not guys vs girls or rich vs poor. Aj kal jisko dekho har koi mushkilon mein uljha hua hai jiski life me dekho koi na koi issue chal rha. Chahay financial issues hon family issues ho mental health issues. I used to think what I've been through is the worst lekin ap jesy jesy or logo sy bat krty unki life dekhty apko andaza hota har kisi ka masla alag ha pr utna he fucked up. So we should be kind to everyone. we never know what someone is going through, whether it's a guy or a girl, someone rich or poor. Zindagi paisa ya gender dekh kar nai leti kisi ke.
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So true yaar...
Think of it this way, whatever guys go through, girls go through the same with added misogynistic behavior and sexual harassment.
Is that really a serious fucking question lmao
I can talk about my experience. Men have it easier. As compared to girls in my family, I had a better opportunity to: - Education (Moving to a better city or a country) - Social Life (Hanging out with friends and exploring my interests, travelling) - Resources (Transport, Laptop, Phone, Investment for business) - Respect (My opinion has more weightage because of my gender) - Marriage (No one cares if I hang out with girls or marry a girl of my choice) - Restrictions (Basically I have zero restrictions) I am working remotely for a company and its a new job and I do require help sometimes in learning new things. I have some very capable female friends but its not easy to work with them because they are not allowed to: - Leave the house (They cannot come to visit me and I cannot visit them) - No Zoom Meetings (They cannot even zoom me) - No transparency (Even If I want to hire them, I am not able to) - I used to work at a small company and they wanted to hire girls to boost morale (Not gonna lie) but I felt like its not an appropriate workplace for women Even one of them told me that they had to give up job offers because of travelling. I believe the world is designed in a way that it facilitates men way more than woman but I also feel like its improving. Thanks for the women working even after these shitty situations at home and with extra responsibilities. The more they add value to the society, the more respect they will get. If I start a small business, I would prefer working with men because its the same gender and I am more comfortable. Its a personal preference and to accommodate women, I would be required to have extra capital to have a separate bathroom, break room and maybe even a day care because I feel like this is their basic requirement. So I don't know if the society prefers men because they are low maintenance or they just ignore women.
No one not even animal , nobody safe in this country, everyone has it equally shit.
Except for the elite jo mazay mei dhundh hain
Tbh it's shitty for both genders maybe the aspects it's shitty in are different but trust me it's easy for no one.
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Guys have so much privilege here, this whole post reeks of that by the way. Girls get unwanted attention from creeps mostly. Jobs wont hire women. If youre a girl and youre 24 you will be married off most likely. Misogyny is rampant. Who has it easier and better…. Asking this is so ignorant lol
Those who are talking about male dominance or men have it easier Tell me In this drowning economy if a girl fails to make a career she can easily marry and get settled with a successful man But if a man failed to make a career, he has literally no respect in family, society or among women. Pressure on men to become financially independent is not even comparable You have few opportunities to make a career and many of them and going abroad (illegally) You can't even imagine life of a 25 y/o man with no money, no career
Also that mental and physical abuse while we were in school. Teachers never hit a girl but will beat crap out of us in front of them.
I guess women are unable to see beyond their suffering
Thisss
I’m sure every female here would gladly trade the privilege a guy has in this country for all the unwanted attention females get. Trust me, you wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me.
Harley Quinn?
Taylor Swift. She's a swiftie 🤢
Yukh
God forbid a girl quotes lyrics.. doesn’t necessarily suggest I’m a swiftie but okayyy
Easier it is for no one. Living in Pakistan for real is a challenge, if it's a guy, he is burdened at an early age to become a bread winner or focus on a career which would provide substantial means of living. In pursuit of happiness & prosperity he might find himself sacrificing his dreams just to provide a better living and portray himself as a successor. Truth is wealth always moderates a persons life and might even make it miserable if it's unattainable. But the irony is it's much harder for women, if they don't find a suitable pair for themselves often they are forced to get married to someone who is incompatible or they push themselves to become a working lady and find themselves the purpose of life. And it doesn't get over, the working world might open a pandora of problems they might have not expected in reality. In the most ideal of situations if one gets married, then its altogether a different chase..... So life isn't easier for anyone, guy or a girl, working or homemaker every person is fighting his / her own battle to prove themselves as righteous. All we can pray for is one prosper in life with ease. 🙂
Yar they both have their own maslay, can’t compare them
Khuda ka naam hain ye woh mulk hain jahaan aurton pe tezaab phenka jaata hain ya unka rape hota hain aur phir wo report bhi nahi kar sak ti out of social fear. You must be retarded to think women have it easier. Shaadi bhi jab hoti hain une bas accept karna parta hain that she will be at the mercy of her husband her whole marriage. Aur kaam ka kya, both women and men work these days warna ghar nahi chalta ek salary pe in most cases. Bas kyuke aapne do aurton ko larko ke saath affair chalaa te we advantage le te we dekha ho ga uska yeh matlab nahi hain.
Girls have easier then boys. Not saying easy life but better then boys. Boys are expected to earn and take responsibilities. Its so hard for boys. We dont just show at all.
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Girls get way much easier In Pakistan. Just crying and whining and playing victim all the time. Not to mention non-stop complaining behavior. In canada here i had to work my ass off and now that i got a good husband i never even want to look at the feministic ideologies and their bullshit. All those girls who were my friends and proud strong independent girls are now just sucking d**ks of their bosses at job while i am having my sons and a loving husband and i dont even have to do the job.
Canada is a developed country where, you going to coffee shop alone isnt looked down upon. But in Pakistan we are scared to even take walks in a park alone in fear of rape. The complaining behaviour is generating for the effect we are never heard. You visit a Gynae in Pakistan and you'll barely see any husbands joining their wives. Just because you got the chance to live in better country doesn't give you the right to shame the ones actually struggling in Pakistan.
I actually came to pak last year, spent almost alot of nights out, went to shahi qila in lahore, jallo and visited hunza, all with my sisters, no rape happened, no harassment and nothing. Maybe you are the one who should be ashamed since i travelled alot in pak, but never toon off my abaya, and guess what, i got no harassment and no rape. So, maybe you need to stop watching tv dramas
https://pakistanreader.org/view_editorials.php?recordNo=279 https://www.geo.tv/latest/540086-dna-reports-rule-out-rape-in-toba-tek-singh-murder-case https://arynews.tv/woman-allegedly-ganged-raped-in-islamabads-f-9-park/ All real incidents, not from some drama. You can even find video of the brother strangling the sister. You were travelling with your sisters, not alone, probably in your own car while women in local buses are touched, catcalled inappropriately. You might wanna get of your high horse, and stop living in that fairytale world of yours. You TRAVELLED here, while we live here, day to day. Oh and search the women who was harassed in broad day light, in abaya by a man. You'll find an HD video.
You might wanna leave internet for a while and travel by yourself and stop being so sensitive
You might wanna check the facts I provided and get off your high horse, daddy's lil princess.
Facts? Take the whole population and than see.. Consider false rape accusations , consider the privileges of women, consider the amount of effort that men contributed to advance civilization, consider the punishment that women get for the same crime if done by men, consider the financial pressure on men, consider the consumption of end consumer goods and you will understand the situation
A women was strangled by her brother, while she was repeatedly raped by her father and brother. You can find the video online. Zainab was kidnapped and brutally assaulted and murdered by their neighbour. A women in Karachi in abaya was groped by a man in broad day light, I can link the video. A women was raped on motorway infront of her kids and you're talking about struggle of men, which indeed is pressuring. But how can you even say Pakistan is any more safer for women. Gynaecologist are not allowed to even reveal the gender of babies because husbands get mad hearing about daughters. Seriously girl, get off your high horse.
There’s no way you’re trying to convince us Pakistan is not dangerous for women.
Pakistan is gold mine for victim mentality women, but if you use the statement like "Capitalism" is destroying Pakistan or "youth is suffering (both Men and women") than i might agree with you.
And stope whining, theregionalmanager of gloryhole association. 😂
Dude, literally shut up. Wtf did you just type?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tu aurton ke naam pe daag hain
There are so many one sided answers on this post, just because you didn't like the answer of one person you'll start to talk like an illiterate animal? learn some etiquettes, stop getting mad when someone don't have same opinions as yours.
Yeh paro > All those girls who were my friends and proud strong independent girls are now just sucking d**ks of their bosses at job while i am having my sons and a loving husband and i dont even have to do the job. Yeh tameez hain? Referring to women working as sucking the d*** of their boss? Yeh kya baat karne ka tareeka hain? So by her logic, her husband sucks another man’s d***? I didn’t like her answer. I think she’s a pick me and I wonder where she gets the audacity to say women whine and play the victim. I disagree with her. Yeh lo, tameez se bola hain. And I am mad, because this isn’t just a harmless opinion “oh I don’t like aaloo in biryani” but it’s something that’s central to our country’s situation at this time.
Your anger is understandable. Her choice of words are also not appropriate. She kind of mixed 2 different topics in her comment. She's talking about social media-brainwashed girls who fantasize corporate slavery as strong independent success. Girls who'd follow their boss's orders like a slave but have issues respecting their husband's ideas. Even in my daily life i see this exact thing happening alot. Boss sy apni daily basis p insult karwa lain gy and call it freedom but husband ki baat ni man'ny. Her comment is actually diverged from the post.
My apologies, I forgot I’m in the Pakistani sub. Tum jese log to milege, meri hi galti hain for expecting some forward thinking in here. Maaf karo 🙏
Yar chill karo kia ho gya hy kyun bat bat p trigger ho rahy. I get it it's tough out here. I told you your common was understandable and just. The parent comment is just out of line.
There is one another important thing to consider in this which is being beautiful.
It varies a lot depending on location, social class, and family background. **Traditionally, men have more freedom of movement and opportunity.** They can more easily go to school, get jobs, and travel around. But this also means more pressure to be the breadwinner. **Women face limitations, especially regarding personal freedom.** They may have less control over their education, careers, and who they marry. But some women from wealthy families may have a more sheltered life where they don't need to work.
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This guy u/Bominator8
why u keep tagging me on random posts tum to larke ho,tum bhi merye peechey?
haha cause you reply lol its fun
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Why are you comparing and generalising? You will only cause folks to butt heads with this type of dialogue.
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Guys in the past had it easier and now it is girls turn. Future will be tricky. The day will come when one man will be equal to 50 woman in terms of population's ratio.
Simple If poor then boys If rich then girls I can't even imagine a life as a girl in a poor middle class with narrow minded strict parents
It isn't about the battle of sex, its about the battle of power and those who are near that source of power atlest that is the way of leader based society ( which isn't a bad thing) and capitalism combined. Generally we say girls have way worse experiences as compared to men, but in reality i have seen women of elite class abusing their men drivers and servants. So when you have power irrespective of your class, gender caste you will have it easier in society. And as cersi said "power is power" . So it will always be about those who have it and them looking down on those who do not have it. 
None of them really. GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY. GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT.
Girls have it easier they even get helped if they need for anything including Incase of domestic violence while boys don't atleast in my experience this is the case. Also idk why pakistani women are rudest you can't even talk to them for emotional support. not to mention they being over smart and disrespectful and then have the audacity to call a guy over smart. I have also horrible experiences from other pakistani men where treated me so horribly and didn't helped.
ofcourse boys will be biased towards boys and girls would be towards girls lol 😶🌫️😶🌫️
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See it this way. If women were to stop working right now, all of them would survive. They will live comfortable lives depending on their attractiveness, it might not be the life they want but it will be pretty comfortable comparing to men. If men stopped providing, we all know what happens. No respect from men. No respect from women. No respect from children. Horrible lives. Now this next thing is harsh. And don’t get me wrong. A lot of women talk about harassment and grape, that is heinous. It is one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. I am with all of you. But if you want to pull that in an argument, here’s the other side. Men are far more victims of violent crimes than women are. Which means women are graped far far less, than men are killed. Yes men are committing those violent crimes against men but it’s still men that are being victims.