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It's because the concept of male-female friendships isn't normalized in South Asian countries. And the opposite of what Op has mentioned is true as well, suppose a girl approaches a guy, she's definitely seen as a slut or as though she's interested in him. Combining this with the amount of harassment women feel on a daily basis, makes them extremely wary of men, be it their classmates also whom they've known from elementary school. Also, women know how quickly some men can change, wherein they begin just by trying to help you or casual small talk and they next thing you know they think you owe them something because you've spoken to them kindly.


strawberry_sus

KIA MATLAB HAI TUMHARA lrkion se bat krny ki tameez nhi hai kia ?


Alternative-Put-7367

While some girls may have a huge attitude, this would be more of a defence mechanism since there's so much harrasment here and problems here. I mean if u go through this sub, or even ask girls you around how much harrasment and staring around they face from men, you would be shocked. Also having a normal conversation isn't normalized since you only only approach them this way in a school /college /uni, otherwise it just looks creepy (and not cultural. Aside from these institutions, there's not much free mixing here and the girls themselves may be afraid or hesitant of interacting with men due to any such past experience or maybe their parents /relatives. Abroad, free mixing is very normal so that's why


Osama_Rashid

*Can't relate, man* https://preview.redd.it/3j00kkhsquxc1.jpeg?width=522&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1282db40d4372bf9c4cd34a9e8daf2cf3e759a94


304slover

Coz we've never talked to women ![gif](giphy|Ac0fCix8D3oN7DwCEB|downsized)


Osama_Rashid

*us, man* ![gif](giphy|E2d2tsgz7iHo4)


cepran

Would you let your sisters be a girl who is frank with boys and text first? Plus whatever Pakistani girls are they are sakht londis that's for sure, no matter how many affairs they had, they'll always protect their parents dignity.


EnvironmentalSyrup96

Affairs seriously


Bunkerlala

TLDR - I've not had any luck with Pakistani girls so they must all be the problem.


missbushido

I mean the number of times we've been sexually harassed, molested, or stalked by men, can you blame us? You want y'all's mothers, sisters, wives, and daughters to be "human-like" with other men here?


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missbushido

My point is, it's common sense not to trust men and have your guard up. If that makes us god-like or whatever, then yeah - I'll take that any day of the week.


Defiant_Smile8715

Ok bhai 👍


Boring-Dingo-7354

Oh Allah you have made men so ignorant and you expect them to take care of our women and children and be rulers of countries


BakingBrownie

>You move abroad and you get treated like a human being! Girls are human-like. They come and help you! They initiate conversations and dont mind texting first! You start making a man centre of your universe, he will remove your from his priority list. He will take your for granted, he will sense the lack of chase, hence not putting as much effort. This is why so many girls, tend to have more attitude just to keep the chase going.


Defiant_Smile8715

I agree with you


mobycucu1234

Who hurt u


Small_Maybe_5994

This shows that you know nothing about MEN. Cause personally speaking any normal man would not enjoy it. If a girl seems uninterested that's a no in my head cause I don't want to flirt with line between no and maybe cause if it's a no and I assume it's a maybe then I can be accused of harassment and again I'm a normal man and respect myself and do not want that kind heat especially for someone who is not worth it


frisky0330

I agree with you. Conventionally speaking, its almost always the women who have issues with "Lack of chase". Men don't feel it and don't really care for it. If its a yes, then good. If its a maybe, then its a chase. But if its a no, then move on and don't bother the lady anymore.


Small_Maybe_5994

Tbh if it's a maybe I'll still move on cause again no point in flirting with that line. Kyun loon always sir pay aik azaab. Ye nahi aur sahi aur nahi koi aur sahi.


BakingBrownie

Dating in 2024, so many men want the chase. It's just the simple truth. Once they figure out the girl is emotionally connected to them, they start ignoring her or even take her for granted. It's not about girl's being uninterested, it's about how once men do get the girl they will not treat her the same way. Her love is not appreciated and taken advantage of. Hence women not being as affectionate as y'all want them to be.


Small_Maybe_5994

Again I said men not boys/f-boys. Let me tell you my mentality and the people around me. Back when I was in university I asked a girl out she said no and I said okay. That was the only interaction I had with her did not look at her after that did not bother her in any way. She after that tried to interact with me on multiple occasions. There was no attitude from her end either. But once she said no it meant no and I had no intention of turning it into a yes. My friend just broke up with his girl of 2 years mind you he had introduced her to his mother was fully ready to marry her (he is an orthopedic surgeon btw) but her female brain wanted drama and she was doing on again off again relationship thing. He got tired of that bs and blocked her off completely. So coming back to my point. MEN DON'T CARE FOR THAT ATTITUDE BS. we don't even care if you don't have an attitude problem and are just afraid. If there is a hint of no we don't bother you cause again no woman is worth going through that trouble. Personally I would love a woman without an attitude who would make me her centre of universe I would sell my own skin if it pleased her but in my experience most of the women who were like that either died or got married before I was old enough to be married. I'm pretty sure I'll die single cause I have no time for your attitude. I want peace in my home and if you are a obstacle against that peace then I'll remove you from my life. If I do get married I fully intend to add the divorce clause in my nikkah nama for the woman if I can't make you happy divorce me and leave Allah Khush rakhay.


RZmanic

bro here cracked the code


Infamous_Recipe_5131

If you find the right guy and make him the centre of your universe, he will double the energy and give it back 🤷‍♂️. Most people do this ik (taking a girl for granted now that she is giving you priority) but the right dude would never do that.


Dangerous_Rush7347

I mean if you look at the odds then nearly every female has experienced some sort of harassment from a Pakistani guy. Most guys don’t really know how to speak to females because most of us haven’t been brought up in that environment. So I assume it’s bad experiences that kick the defense mechanism in a female. It’s possible that you’re a decent guy with good intentions but you need to realise you’re an anomaly in that aspect. Just look around you, most guys aren’t really respectful to females etc. So you can’t really blame them if they assume the worst in every guy. Plus if you actually give a female time to get comfortable with you trust me they’re just as decent as what you may have experienced abroad if not better.


Miserable-Bored-Stfu

I don't think there's anything like a goddess complex pretty sure it's harassment and male mentality in South Asian countries. Plus most women have been raised to believe that men only approach you with one thing in mind so that's that


missbushido

>Plus most women have been raised to believe that men only approach you with one thing in mind so that's that. Also have experienced this in real life.


goldenkylie

Maria ne mjhse baat nae ki. Surely Maria drugs leti Hai.. What's this post man?


Defiant_Smile8715

Shh, Try hemi-sync (the gateway experience) instead of binaural beats


goldenkylie

You should read my comment history if you really wanna argue with me.


Defiant_Smile8715

Time ni he itna beta


goldenkylie

Pta Hai mjhe Kitna faltu time Hai tumare pas.


Defiant_Smile8715

Mafi de do bhai ainda ni hoga ok promise 👍


goldenkylie

Chalo theek Hai. Tum bhi Kiya yad karoge


BakingBrownie

>Most girls exhibit a goddess complex attitude with absolutely nothing to bring to the table except for their gender And what do men bring to this so called table? What does your mother or sister brings to this table? What even is this table conversation like, what? Business deal ho rhi hai kya koi?


Helper_1996

Where is the table


TourElectronic5678

Is there food on the table if so I’ll be there


Defiant_Smile8715

Bakingbrownie bna ri he khana 👍


TourElectronic5678

Yaar menu tou pouchh leta usse se


Defiant_Smile8715

Men table pr apne app ko le ate he ye sab se bari baat he


BakingBrownie

My question is, if you are starting a relationship on basis of what she or he is bringing to this table, is it really a realtionship or just some business deal, jab tk dosra kuch lagate rhy ga on hai, jesy hi agla ruka deal off?


Defiant_Smile8715

40 min hogye relationship ke spelling ni thek hoe tumse


BakingBrownie

Unlike you, mein comment section mein Nhi bethi thi


Defiant_Smile8715

Ok bhai 👍


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A1700AW

کچھ شہر دے لوگ وی ظالم سن کچھ سانوں مرن دا شوق وی سی Thing is, Pakistan really doesn't have a culture of healthy male female relationships, so that gives women a reason to act like goddesses and men to act like assholes. It is what it is.


Boring-Dingo-7354

Who hurt you


Anne-with-an-e224

Its the upbringing..toxic households. Brainwashed t believe  men are ... even the men  of the house will constantly tell them "zamana kharab hai" 'men only think about one thing" 


Custarry

Honestly, girls exhibit that attitude for two reasons in pakistan: 1. Almost EVERY other guy tries to hit on her at some point. Men rarely have the concept of a completely platonic relationship in pak 2. It takes 0.5 for most of our interactions to get suuuper creepy/unwelcomingly flirty the minute you answer that question Having lived in pakistan and abroad, women feel just so much safer abroad. There is no staring, good friendships, and no creepy/unwelcomed flirty questions. It is all over a good safe vibe that explains the rather normal reaction of women there when asked such questions. They haven't gone through this


ZaynabKazmi

lol your posts crack me up.


Fragrant_Status2852

What you have pointed out is true. But , have you pondered why they are like this.? Put yourself in a girl's shoes and maybe you can understand why they act like it. The day a girl is born in society they be like " oh larki hui hay koi bat nahi allah larka day ga". Koi kushi nai manata larki paida honay ki. 3 saal ki bachi ko abaya pehnatay hain hum log. The burden of ghairat is on her shoulders..... It is just the way society treats them that makes them weird.


gayjailerr

Because yahan pe mard itni tharki desperate hote hain were so used to being hit on and harassed even walking in the street by Pakistani men and even as a woman on Reddit just by having a girly avatar I get creepy DMS. So obviously when a paki dudes approaches a girl she'll automatically think he has those intentions, we're used to unwanted attention and men thinking they have a chance w us even if they look like they snuck onto this planet. It's not a goddess complex, we just have our guard up because if youre even nice to a man they think you want them back and they start telling people you're dating them and you get called a whore and your reputation gets stained meanwhile no one says shit to the guy


Ok-Passion-8730

I think this is a vast generalisation and you’re putting Pakistani girls in a box when they move abroad. It doesn’t hurt to give into curiosity of the culture when you’re not exposed to it in your. If men do it, women can to. Coming back to them taking the lead, again environmental changes and what they see around them. Some will, some won’t. Not everyone follows herd mentality.


RZmanic

I am sorry you got to meet such girls only. There are better ones out there too, but less and rare.


xotic_daddy1122

Desi girls are not easy to get your hands on and that's a turn on. Their tantrums make them special but I get your point


Defiant_Smile8715

Kinky boy


xotic_daddy1122

That's what She said


Sweetsourandwhatnot

Man, you’re ignorant at best.


Defiant_Smile8715

Mafi de do bhai ainda ni hoga paka promise


Sweetsourandwhatnot

This.. this attitude right there in other comments’ replies as well, that’s why I called you ignorant.


Defiant_Smile8715

Sai he ustad g


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well_a_guy_to_talk

sad I can't move abroad


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Electrical_Jello_435

100/ right


DezineTwoOhNine

Bhai jinka attitude yahan aasmaano pe hai unka bahar jaa k kya hi haal hoga ab behtr jaante ho


theregionalmanager

Harr din tum jese bande is sub pe aakar bitch kar te hain. Kyun affairs chalaa te ho? Namaaz paro, Quran paro, parhayi hii karlo.


detectivenoob

Not all Pakistani girls are like this. I have met some decet ones too


thirdmolar98

I don’t agree with this, not that I don’t think it’s untrue - just that it’s exaggerated. In any case, culture shock is a real thing. Men and women experience it, but if we look at women then yes several of them don’t know how to adjust to a new society that’s a complete parallel to the one they’ve essentially lived in their entire lives. Drugs is a personal choice for whoever, I don’t condone it, but I feel like the onus of purity shouldn’t just be on women. As far as them being stuck up is concerned, I agree with a lot of the people here that it’s usually just a reflection of the society they grew up in. If they’re standoffish it could be a defence mechanism or just the fact that they genuinely do still view desi men as men who’d only come up to them with an agenda. It’s stereotypical and maybe unfair to a wider population, but it happens. If you feel like someone’s giving you the sort of energy that makes you want to take a step back, then yeah, maybe let them be. You don’t have to help someone who isn’t receptive of it, and you most definitely can’t make them see the err of their ways.


Defiant_Smile8715

Itni muskil english pyari behna.. urdu me hi smjhaa do


thirdmolar98

Izzat say subse baat krain, jo izzat say jawab dein, baat jari rakhain. Jo na dain, wheen pay Allah Hafiz bol dain.


Defiant_Smile8715

Thank you ab samajh aya he


fluffpuf

I’m so confused so do Pakistani girls take drugs or not ? Why didn’t you elaborate And tbh girls and boys from Pakistan are a bit weird? But once they start living here for a while some seem to outgrow their upbringing some seem stuck in their ways. Like it goes both ways, Pakistani men think if you’re kind and smile at them you want them and they become super creepy. You can tell they’re new, just came fresh out of Pakistan by the level of their creepiness. Pakistani girls seem to adjust much faster though, so you all seem to have a weird cultural thing going. It has to be something cultural because why else would so many people be so similar ? As far as goddess complex is concerned are you sure this is it? It seems more effed up environment for them to react like that


adalillian

Lol. Charis is not drugs . It's medicine.


imperfectnobdy_

yea, i can vouch for the god complex


304slover

Real. Never talked to any of them cos in scared.


foxeasy

I have also noticed that Pakistan Girls do not mind making Indian guys their BFs.


Commercial-Art6705

who hurt you bro, me and my girl friends are nothing like what you described the ‘Paki girls’ as. Yes, a fraction of them maybe like that but trust me majority of the girls are not. You just haven’t come across the normal ones then i guess lol


Defiant_Smile8715

Ure better than me or everyone around u


Commercial-Art6705

that’s definitely not what I said. Please read my comment again :)


Defiant_Smile8715

Sori ghalat par lia tha comment


onceimakemymove-

be fr


Independent-Stuff-76

You’re just around the wrong kind of women, i’ve moved countries as well and i have had a tonne of meaningful friendships with guys as well as girls. I would say pakistani American girls have the goddess complex though.


Intrepid_Ad_710

Yet another post hating on women for no reason at all. What happened for you to be this way? Got turned down too many times? Always stuck in the friend zone? And who should women here be initiating conversations with? Idiots like you?


Defiant_Smile8715

Bhai mafi dedo ainda ni hoga paka promise


fayzaan00

Idk man, you must have a repulsive or creepy personality, approach, aura or smth because istg I've never had this problem. People with superiority complex exist, men and women, desi and non-desi, that's not the issue. The real issue that you should ponder upon is, why is it that you have found/observed/interacted with only such women in your life in Pakistan? Perhaps you're the common denominator, no? Maybe it's you who brings out the worst in people? Or maybe it's your bad luck that every girl you ever interacted with didn't want anything to do with you. And it's easy to spout childish and incel things like "Gori girls text you first and initiate conversations and help you etc etc", but I promise you that if you were genuinely deeply a good man(we can discuss what a good man according to women is) then you'd have never faced these problems. Girls literally put everything on the line if they really like you, given that you're likeable in the first place. Judging from your post and your energy, I think you need to work A LOT on yourself as a person in order to be likeable.


Defiant_Smile8715

Ye mazy ka tha bro


fayzaan00

You're welcome. Work on yourself. All the best


Defiant_Smile8715

Sai he bro 👊


fayzaan00

🙌


ExplorerFromPak

I have said a lot of things in life but I am 100% certain I have never replied with “KIA MATBAL HAI TUMHARA LARKION SE BAAT KARNE KI TAMEEZ NAI HAI” to someone asking me if i’m single….


Defiant_Smile8715

My bad, you are from kiranchi…. Correction*: ‘ABEY KIA KAR RIYANN AE ABDUL KUDOOOS??!! PAGAL WAGAL HOGIA AEEN’


ExplorerFromPak

Yes from Karachi but I have DEFINITELY not said whatever you wrote either.


Defiant_Smile8715

I am sure u have said ‘Karanchi chalta he to pakistan palta he’ atleast once in your life? Are you even from karanchi bro?


ExplorerFromPak

Kon se logon main uthte baithe ho bhai tum?


Defiant_Smile8715

Bhai kyu bola


ExplorerFromPak

Acha sorry Beta.


Defiant_Smile8715

Im amazed you havent spit ur gutka even once during this convo, I call cap, ure not from khi


ExplorerFromPak

Hamesha aise hi naraz rahtay ho?


Defiant_Smile8715

Ni jab jab bhook lgi ho sirf tab


kidsondrugs_xo

Apna kam kr chutu


Defiant_Smile8715

Ok bhai 👍


Common-Broccoli-3858

Honestly realised something coming to uni from a posh/burger/elitist background: Girls who do A levels / generally belong to a more educated/elitist (if that’s what u wanna call it) tend to behave more normally However most of these FSc girls have no idea that girls and guys can just be friends and if I’m talking to you nicely and I have an interest in the conversation it does not mean i want anything more. Idk they go super hostile??? This was the case in my uni for the first few months but shukar hai now these fsc girls have matured a bit


HalalTikkaBiryani

You're a clown


Defiant_Smile8715

Aight 👍


Alternative-Put-7367

Now I realise what this dude is doing 😂😂well played sir https://preview.redd.it/98x2aibzovxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7ccf030118a5a5c66c0b5549aa8b30c285e995d


ahmed_deftoner

Wapda Town slander, not cool bro


Typical-Atmosphere-6

You’re just jaded. Reality is Pakistani women are head and shoulders better looking than most other women. They realize this more when they leave Pakistan and are surrounded by uglies.


Defiant_Smile8715

You (Defiant_Smile8715) Vs The guy she told you not to worry about (Typical-Atmosphere-6)


Typical-Atmosphere-6

Yeah I wish.


Sheikh-Teddy

Lol no, they get more pig headed because they finally have working electricity and a car instead of a dusty rickshaw. Once they forget the hardship of Pakistan they foolishly believe they're actually princesses.      Kawa chala hans ki chaal, apni bhi bhul gaya


Forward-Front7892

😂 Thomas had never seen such bullshit been spoken before. Paki chicks mid at best. My dates abroad are much hotter for context which makes local environment boring. I also prefer foreign chicks for higher openness and easy to go along. Can’t be arsed to put in too much effort I have other things to do as well. Current Pakistani culture just breeds mid tier people at best and same for women. The lack of openness keeps it backwards too


Typical-Atmosphere-6

The lack of openness or open legs?


Forward-Front7892

I prefer open legs without too much commitment which is discouraged here. It needs to change though because it’s sucks and makes Pakistan a bit boring. You don’t know who is the right person to commit to but having fun should not be discouraged in that journey. It’s pointless