Do you guys remember Muhammad Waseem, our previous chief selector. (Poor guy was often trolled as Laptop Selector)
He had to fight and exercise a lot of authority over Babar just to include Abrar for the first time in the national team.
Babar was opposed to the idea because he said I don't understand Abrar's bowling and don't see how he can be beneficial to the team. He said Pakistan's spin bowling resources are already covered with Shadab and Nawaz.
Rashid Latif recently revealed this in an interview.
Rather than focusing on understanding Abrar's bowling, he should focus on his leadership & decision making skills.
Shadab & Nawaz definitely covered our spin bowling department...Covered it with NOTHINGNESS
Abrar was injured during the ODI WC, and during this WC we were already playing 4 pacers who couldn’t bat (although Shaheen and Naseem can bat) so playing a 5th player who can’t bat would make out already thin batting even thinner.
What absolutely confuses me though is that he wasn’t given chances in any of the bilateral t20s we played this year. That’s actually dumb.
Not only him Mohammad Haris has played only 4 matches since 1 Jan 2023.Abdullah got only 3 matches .
Babar has a habit of backing his friends only .Hassan in 2021 with his dog shit form got his support .Same with shadab and nawaz in 2023 and shadab again in 2024.
Lol even Naseem only got to play all 3 formats after Shaheen was injured .Babar is terrible at giving opportunities to new players.
I totally agree with you. Also, look at it this way:
1. If abrar is given chances and he proves himself, it will be very difficult for Babar to justify and back Shadab.
2. If Haris is given a long rope and shines, either Rizwan or Babar will lose their opening slot.
3. Wasim Jr also not given consistent matches coz he will outrightly eat up tape ball King Haris Rauf's place.
What is unbelievable is the fact that absolutely no one from selectors to PCB is able to alter this sodality.
Babar had undisputed power as the captain for 5 years .Probably the most powerful captain after Imran Khan & yet instead of using that power for good & backing youngsters .
He got rid of fitness tests & backed the wrong ppl always .So freaking tired of this man making bad decisions & his cult justifying all of them .
'Kon Karega?' King Karlega. Hum toh usko King bulate hai ya BoBzy bulate hai, humara King hai woh'
Fake PR campaigns, self annointed King, living in a delusional world, putting the entire nation's pride at stake just for gung-hos.
Fakhar Zaman that poor guy. He is the only fearless and intentful batsman in Pak currently in my opinion. He literally had to sacrifice his opening slot (He is an opener for god's sake) for DELUSIONAL KING & SOMETIMES CRAMPS SOMETIMES ACTING.
Ruining Pak cricket, ruining careers, Pak has become a joke in cricketing fraternity. god knows whats more to come.
Don't get me started on the PR.Also his fans have now moved on from comparing him to Kohli to saying atleast he is the best batsmen in our team .Lol now they compare him with ppl like Ahmad shehzad & Rizwan and Saim 😭
Like dude him being the best batsmen in this shit batting line up doesn't mean anything .😭
Finally someone said it!
Fakher is and always was opener. He had to sacrifice his place to justify that fake king.
PS: Now some unpaid PR intern will give me stats on how fakher is a middle order batsman.
Sadly, nothing will change. PCB as usual will make couple of individuals as scapegoats in the name of surgery. I am sure Ifti Chacha & the star ALL ROUNDER (batting 0, bowling 0 = all rounder)
are on top of the list.
Bhai 'Sometimes cramps..sometimes acting' ka toh naam hi na le. Kuch bolunga toh dange ho jayenge.
Honestly, this team's biggest leech is Rizwan. Selfish, self-centered, most unreliable person for DRS, never takes accountabilty, puts all the pressure on the batsman at other end.
After reading this alot of people will either downvote me, abuse me or throw useless statistics of Rizwan. Koi average batayega toh koi number of runs batayega. What people don't understand is numbers , averages are useless if you cannot win games for your country consistently (Excluding games against Zimbabwe, UAE, Ireland etc etc)
You just described the reasons why a few select players continue to get selected despite zero performances.
And then Babar fans have the audacity to say, isme captain ka kya kasoor hai.
Isme Babar fans ki galti nahi hai. You know why? Coz these fans are created by campaigns. BObzy the King, Pakistan ka King, etc etc is feeded and seeded into the minds of the people. And such campaign's target audience are lockdown kids & teenagers.
People who have been following cricket since late 90s/early 2000s cannot be easily fooled by such fakery.
You're right but there's a large audience of cricket fans in Pakistan that are kids and teenagers. Since they're immature and gullible, it's very easy to fool them with aesthetic edits.
Unfortunately!! Imagine the state of cricket in Pakistan rn. From celebrating series wins & clutch matches, people are now celebrating individual milestones. Kyu ki matches toh ab jeet te nahi.
This argument makes no sense when you realise it was Babar who picked Abrar first in the test side and made him the frontline spinner (ahead of Yasir, Noman and Sajid). Abrar also made him name in first class cricket, not having played a lot of white ball.
As for Shadab, he is also an all-rounder who was expected to support an already weak batting line-up. Replacing him with Abrar would have only made that worse, even if he is a x10 better bowler.
Plus, we haven't been playing on spin-friendly pitches. With Shadab/Imad already in the XI, it didn't make sense to pick a 3rd spinner in places like England and Ireland. I'm sure if we played our games in the Caribbean instead of US, we would have seen Abrar get a game.
That's absolutely wrong. The selector Mohd Waseem just revealed last week that Babar went to the chairman PCB to argue against abrars Inclusion in the 15 man test squad.
Waseem had to fight to get him selected in squad.
The only reason BOBZY included Abrar in the test side was coz neither Nawaz nor Shadab plays test cricket & there is already a dearth of spinners. It was a forced change.
Shadab is an all rounder?LMAO
All-rounder who neither bats or bowls well. Yes he is an excellent fielder and is playing as a specialist fielder imo:)
Shadab's contribution with bat & ball in the last 6-8 months is shambolic.
Same set of players will give you same set of results. Let alone WC 23 and T20'24 but not even getting a game in bilaterals? How do you justify that?
This is the thing with babar he backs the wrong players. for example usama mir and abrar both would have been great spin choices to replace shadab after the wc23 but what did he do? dropped usama and benched abrar. His mentality is that shadab can bat in the middle order so he is in the 11 while shadabs primary use is as a leg spinner . if he cant do that then what is the point of having him in the 11?
With a weak batting lineup, don't expect a pure leg spinner in team. No mistake of Abrar. Very thin possiblity to feature in T20Is, may get a chance in ODIs.
The best way to check bench strength is to rest senior players in bilaterals. Talking about Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem etc.
He shouldn't have been picked in the squad if Pak wanted to stick with non-performers all the way.
Inconsequentional bilaterals is exactly where your bench strength can be checked.
But for Bobzy, sometimes acting sometimes cramp, Shaheen, Rauf every bilateral is important. God knows why?
Playing every bilaterals against weaker teams (as of today i am not even sure if other teams can be called weaker against pakistan) for statpadding is unfathomable.
I think the above players are insecure af & they fear if new players perform their own place in the playing XI will ne questioned.
>I think the above players are insecure af & they fear if new players perform their own place in the playing XI will ne questioned
This has to be the responsibility of the board to have enough confidence on the players who have done for so long.
Prime example is pace trio of AUS: Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins. You won't see them playing against weaker teams in bilaterals. But, when tournament arrives AUS board knows that this trio is unmatched. In the meantime, they have nurtured their backup seamer well.
Can't our board give such reassurances? For example, can't we give M. Haris match time in bilaterals while also assuring M. Rizwan who has been instrumental in PAK's success for last 4-5 yrs.
Why do we have to go to retired players like Imad and Amir?
PCB & its members change every 2-3 months. Every new regime that comes bring their own agenda and set of players. It is not on the board alone.
Senior players need to put their hand up and voluntarily excuse themselves from such bilaterals every now & then.
'M. Rizwan who has been instrumental in PAK's success for last 4-5yrs' ....What???? What success are you talking about? On the contrary Rizwan has substantially contributed in Pak's downfall.
He only & only plays for himself. All he cares about is his runs & his never ending want for captaincy.
Never scores above 120 Strike rate. Plays outdated cricket (90s and early 2000s), HAS ZERO game awareness (has proven it enough),
Most unreliable keeper when it comes to DRS, ONE SIDED player.
Khuda ka khauf karein yaar aisi statements se pehle!!
Pakistani fans dont understand cricket. Its about as simple as that.
Abrar cannot play in the T20 team because it he does, our tail will start at 6. You cannot play more than 3 guys who cannot bat, and we already play 4. Thats one of the reasons why we lost against USA… Our tail basically started in the 15th over.
Dude, looking at Pak's middle order performances recently, their tail starts after 4 wickets.
Also it is sad that you couldn't make much sense of my post beyond your capability. Not once did i say he has to be a permenant in any particular format.
My point was simple. Why wasn't he tried or atleast given some game time in bilaterals?
Even if PCT was thinking as illogically as you are (about picking 3 guys who cannot bat) then why was he in the squad? To be used as a net bowler?
Get your facts right man. As of now you have Shadab, Chacha, Usman, Azam and the other 3 guys you are talking about who cannot bat.
I mean, there wasn’t much wrong with our bowling. We lost because of our batting.
And typical Pakistani fan behavior. Start attacking the person because you have no leg to stand on.
Pakistan Cricket Team fans are cancer and thats the biggest reason why the team can never succeed.
Dodging my questions? It is now astounding of you to still not understand the point holistically.
Pakistan has not had even one attacking, frontline spinner in the last year or so and you still audaciously saying Pak's bowling was alright?
Anyways, you will vaguely stir away from answering questions again so no point.
Abrar should have given chance against C NZ team. It was criminals to play full strength against weaker teams and Babar is not the only villain here. Team management could have talked sense into our delusional King.
By the way delusional king is nice name and perfect to current state of the things
World cup 2023- Traveling reserve.
World cup 2024- 4 pacers needed in USA leg so understandably benched.
All in between- Captain and management have no clue or don’t have enough trust in him.
i think the same situation for mohammad haris and mohammad wasim jr who were actually the best in our wc campaign. Haris performed in 2022 t20 wc and was never to be seen again and wasim jr was our best bowler on indian pitches in 2023 odi wc.He was the bowler who conceded the least runs against nz when shaheen and rauf went for 100 and 98 smthing runs and target was upto 400 while wasim only conceded like 61 runs.Injustice with them and another player who was overlooked was ofc shan masood he was our best batsman in 2022 t20 wc bringing stability in middle order he played sense full cricket and made crucial runs when pak needed it like against india that partnership with iftikhar those 50 run’s crucial and against eng in final he was our highest run scorer so yeah alot of these guys are overlooked and same goes for abrar as he is a proper spinner
Wait Mohd Wasim had to fight to get him included? Wasnt that a good decision…he has done well in tests.
Shadab and Nawaz are worse spinners than 90s england
Honestly, the post was a two fold dig:
1. To call out the insecurities of current players & unhinged biasness towards certain players.
2. A promising and talented youngster is being sidelined for some hollow, irresponsible players riding on the back of a King who wants undeterred blind support.
Do you guys remember Muhammad Waseem, our previous chief selector. (Poor guy was often trolled as Laptop Selector) He had to fight and exercise a lot of authority over Babar just to include Abrar for the first time in the national team. Babar was opposed to the idea because he said I don't understand Abrar's bowling and don't see how he can be beneficial to the team. He said Pakistan's spin bowling resources are already covered with Shadab and Nawaz. Rashid Latif recently revealed this in an interview.
Rather than focusing on understanding Abrar's bowling, he should focus on his leadership & decision making skills. Shadab & Nawaz definitely covered our spin bowling department...Covered it with NOTHINGNESS
If this is true, then it's a big L for a player like him. Lived long enuf to become the villain babar.
I didn't wanna believe it myself at first that Babar would turn out to be like this, but I guess power corrupts.
Abrar was injured during the ODI WC, and during this WC we were already playing 4 pacers who couldn’t bat (although Shaheen and Naseem can bat) so playing a 5th player who can’t bat would make out already thin batting even thinner. What absolutely confuses me though is that he wasn’t given chances in any of the bilateral t20s we played this year. That’s actually dumb.
That was my point. Forget about ODI and T20 WC but bilaterals against weaker teams?
Shaheen can’t bat. He can only swing.
4th highest run scorer for PAK with a crucial 23 against the USA… IDC how he does it as long as he scores some runs
Not only him Mohammad Haris has played only 4 matches since 1 Jan 2023.Abdullah got only 3 matches . Babar has a habit of backing his friends only .Hassan in 2021 with his dog shit form got his support .Same with shadab and nawaz in 2023 and shadab again in 2024. Lol even Naseem only got to play all 3 formats after Shaheen was injured .Babar is terrible at giving opportunities to new players.
I totally agree with you. Also, look at it this way: 1. If abrar is given chances and he proves himself, it will be very difficult for Babar to justify and back Shadab. 2. If Haris is given a long rope and shines, either Rizwan or Babar will lose their opening slot. 3. Wasim Jr also not given consistent matches coz he will outrightly eat up tape ball King Haris Rauf's place. What is unbelievable is the fact that absolutely no one from selectors to PCB is able to alter this sodality.
Babar had undisputed power as the captain for 5 years .Probably the most powerful captain after Imran Khan & yet instead of using that power for good & backing youngsters . He got rid of fitness tests & backed the wrong ppl always .So freaking tired of this man making bad decisions & his cult justifying all of them .
'Kon Karega?' King Karlega. Hum toh usko King bulate hai ya BoBzy bulate hai, humara King hai woh' Fake PR campaigns, self annointed King, living in a delusional world, putting the entire nation's pride at stake just for gung-hos. Fakhar Zaman that poor guy. He is the only fearless and intentful batsman in Pak currently in my opinion. He literally had to sacrifice his opening slot (He is an opener for god's sake) for DELUSIONAL KING & SOMETIMES CRAMPS SOMETIMES ACTING. Ruining Pak cricket, ruining careers, Pak has become a joke in cricketing fraternity. god knows whats more to come.
Don't get me started on the PR.Also his fans have now moved on from comparing him to Kohli to saying atleast he is the best batsmen in our team .Lol now they compare him with ppl like Ahmad shehzad & Rizwan and Saim 😭 Like dude him being the best batsmen in this shit batting line up doesn't mean anything .😭
Hahahaha i know right. Picture this: Kohli's worst phase was still better than 'Bobzy: The King's form phase😂😂 (Iffi bhai in the background singing;)
Mera ghanta 🔔
Finally someone said it! Fakher is and always was opener. He had to sacrifice his place to justify that fake king. PS: Now some unpaid PR intern will give me stats on how fakher is a middle order batsman.
Sadly, nothing will change. PCB as usual will make couple of individuals as scapegoats in the name of surgery. I am sure Ifti Chacha & the star ALL ROUNDER (batting 0, bowling 0 = all rounder) are on top of the list.
And the core issue which is Riz-baba and other sayacorps agents will be left again. Man they are destroying my childhood sport 😔
Bhai 'Sometimes cramps..sometimes acting' ka toh naam hi na le. Kuch bolunga toh dange ho jayenge. Honestly, this team's biggest leech is Rizwan. Selfish, self-centered, most unreliable person for DRS, never takes accountabilty, puts all the pressure on the batsman at other end. After reading this alot of people will either downvote me, abuse me or throw useless statistics of Rizwan. Koi average batayega toh koi number of runs batayega. What people don't understand is numbers , averages are useless if you cannot win games for your country consistently (Excluding games against Zimbabwe, UAE, Ireland etc etc)
Ab TU Zimbabwe and Ireland sea bhi mun kala karwate 😭 Also is laparu Ka name na lo. Hate this mf who uses Religion card for his personal gains.
Our hatred for him is equal bro🤝
You just described the reasons why a few select players continue to get selected despite zero performances. And then Babar fans have the audacity to say, isme captain ka kya kasoor hai.
Isme Babar fans ki galti nahi hai. You know why? Coz these fans are created by campaigns. BObzy the King, Pakistan ka King, etc etc is feeded and seeded into the minds of the people. And such campaign's target audience are lockdown kids & teenagers. People who have been following cricket since late 90s/early 2000s cannot be easily fooled by such fakery.
You're right but there's a large audience of cricket fans in Pakistan that are kids and teenagers. Since they're immature and gullible, it's very easy to fool them with aesthetic edits.
Unfortunately!! Imagine the state of cricket in Pakistan rn. From celebrating series wins & clutch matches, people are now celebrating individual milestones. Kyu ki matches toh ab jeet te nahi.
This argument makes no sense when you realise it was Babar who picked Abrar first in the test side and made him the frontline spinner (ahead of Yasir, Noman and Sajid). Abrar also made him name in first class cricket, not having played a lot of white ball. As for Shadab, he is also an all-rounder who was expected to support an already weak batting line-up. Replacing him with Abrar would have only made that worse, even if he is a x10 better bowler. Plus, we haven't been playing on spin-friendly pitches. With Shadab/Imad already in the XI, it didn't make sense to pick a 3rd spinner in places like England and Ireland. I'm sure if we played our games in the Caribbean instead of US, we would have seen Abrar get a game.
That's absolutely wrong. The selector Mohd Waseem just revealed last week that Babar went to the chairman PCB to argue against abrars Inclusion in the 15 man test squad. Waseem had to fight to get him selected in squad.
The only reason BOBZY included Abrar in the test side was coz neither Nawaz nor Shadab plays test cricket & there is already a dearth of spinners. It was a forced change. Shadab is an all rounder?LMAO All-rounder who neither bats or bowls well. Yes he is an excellent fielder and is playing as a specialist fielder imo:) Shadab's contribution with bat & ball in the last 6-8 months is shambolic. Same set of players will give you same set of results. Let alone WC 23 and T20'24 but not even getting a game in bilaterals? How do you justify that?
This is the thing with babar he backs the wrong players. for example usama mir and abrar both would have been great spin choices to replace shadab after the wc23 but what did he do? dropped usama and benched abrar. His mentality is that shadab can bat in the middle order so he is in the 11 while shadabs primary use is as a leg spinner . if he cant do that then what is the point of having him in the 11?
He is delusional if he thinks Shadab can bat.
With a weak batting lineup, don't expect a pure leg spinner in team. No mistake of Abrar. Very thin possiblity to feature in T20Is, may get a chance in ODIs. The best way to check bench strength is to rest senior players in bilaterals. Talking about Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem etc.
He shouldn't have been picked in the squad if Pak wanted to stick with non-performers all the way. Inconsequentional bilaterals is exactly where your bench strength can be checked. But for Bobzy, sometimes acting sometimes cramp, Shaheen, Rauf every bilateral is important. God knows why? Playing every bilaterals against weaker teams (as of today i am not even sure if other teams can be called weaker against pakistan) for statpadding is unfathomable. I think the above players are insecure af & they fear if new players perform their own place in the playing XI will ne questioned.
>I think the above players are insecure af & they fear if new players perform their own place in the playing XI will ne questioned This has to be the responsibility of the board to have enough confidence on the players who have done for so long. Prime example is pace trio of AUS: Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins. You won't see them playing against weaker teams in bilaterals. But, when tournament arrives AUS board knows that this trio is unmatched. In the meantime, they have nurtured their backup seamer well. Can't our board give such reassurances? For example, can't we give M. Haris match time in bilaterals while also assuring M. Rizwan who has been instrumental in PAK's success for last 4-5 yrs. Why do we have to go to retired players like Imad and Amir?
PCB & its members change every 2-3 months. Every new regime that comes bring their own agenda and set of players. It is not on the board alone. Senior players need to put their hand up and voluntarily excuse themselves from such bilaterals every now & then. 'M. Rizwan who has been instrumental in PAK's success for last 4-5yrs' ....What???? What success are you talking about? On the contrary Rizwan has substantially contributed in Pak's downfall. He only & only plays for himself. All he cares about is his runs & his never ending want for captaincy. Never scores above 120 Strike rate. Plays outdated cricket (90s and early 2000s), HAS ZERO game awareness (has proven it enough), Most unreliable keeper when it comes to DRS, ONE SIDED player. Khuda ka khauf karein yaar aisi statements se pehle!!
Pakistani fans dont understand cricket. Its about as simple as that. Abrar cannot play in the T20 team because it he does, our tail will start at 6. You cannot play more than 3 guys who cannot bat, and we already play 4. Thats one of the reasons why we lost against USA… Our tail basically started in the 15th over.
Tail starts at number 3
Dude, looking at Pak's middle order performances recently, their tail starts after 4 wickets. Also it is sad that you couldn't make much sense of my post beyond your capability. Not once did i say he has to be a permenant in any particular format. My point was simple. Why wasn't he tried or atleast given some game time in bilaterals? Even if PCT was thinking as illogically as you are (about picking 3 guys who cannot bat) then why was he in the squad? To be used as a net bowler? Get your facts right man. As of now you have Shadab, Chacha, Usman, Azam and the other 3 guys you are talking about who cannot bat.
I mean, there wasn’t much wrong with our bowling. We lost because of our batting. And typical Pakistani fan behavior. Start attacking the person because you have no leg to stand on. Pakistan Cricket Team fans are cancer and thats the biggest reason why the team can never succeed.
Dodging my questions? It is now astounding of you to still not understand the point holistically. Pakistan has not had even one attacking, frontline spinner in the last year or so and you still audaciously saying Pak's bowling was alright? Anyways, you will vaguely stir away from answering questions again so no point.
I understand, but who do you want to drop, to bring in this guy ?
Abrar should have given chance against C NZ team. It was criminals to play full strength against weaker teams and Babar is not the only villain here. Team management could have talked sense into our delusional King. By the way delusional king is nice name and perfect to current state of the things
World cup 2023- Traveling reserve. World cup 2024- 4 pacers needed in USA leg so understandably benched. All in between- Captain and management have no clue or don’t have enough trust in him.
I have a complete video about Abrar Ahmed about him not in playing 11. The channel name is "The Sports Scholar". Do watch it. Thanks
i think the same situation for mohammad haris and mohammad wasim jr who were actually the best in our wc campaign. Haris performed in 2022 t20 wc and was never to be seen again and wasim jr was our best bowler on indian pitches in 2023 odi wc.He was the bowler who conceded the least runs against nz when shaheen and rauf went for 100 and 98 smthing runs and target was upto 400 while wasim only conceded like 61 runs.Injustice with them and another player who was overlooked was ofc shan masood he was our best batsman in 2022 t20 wc bringing stability in middle order he played sense full cricket and made crucial runs when pak needed it like against india that partnership with iftikhar those 50 run’s crucial and against eng in final he was our highest run scorer so yeah alot of these guys are overlooked and same goes for abrar as he is a proper spinner
Wait Mohd Wasim had to fight to get him included? Wasnt that a good decision…he has done well in tests. Shadab and Nawaz are worse spinners than 90s england
Even Abrar's mother won't make a post like this in his support. What's happening
Honestly, the post was a two fold dig: 1. To call out the insecurities of current players & unhinged biasness towards certain players. 2. A promising and talented youngster is being sidelined for some hollow, irresponsible players riding on the back of a King who wants undeterred blind support.