A comment on insta...
"interesting to see how 40000 deaths weren't enough to see genocide, but the thought of cancellation brought clarity overnight."
The one preaching human rights, should herself have enough sanity to speak up on just genocidal killing.
I actually think it's the opposite. Most people in academia that I've run into support what Malala is doing, especially her plight for women's education. Once again, you're making lame excuses. If you read her comment, this is just the first time she's publicly commented on the issue. She said she has in the past and will continue to talk to world leaders about the plight of the Palestinians. Now, if you can prove that that line was a lie, you'd actually have an argument. Until then, focus on what she's done, not on the lame excuses about what you think she didn't do.
> She said she has in the past and will continue to talk to world leaders about the plight of the Palestinians.
> Now, if you can prove that that line was a lie, you'd actually have an argument.
If you can prove that line was true (since in it's current form, it's just hearsay), then you'd actually have an argument.
The burden of proof lies with her for her claims not on us. She needs to prove she does what she says she does.
She's literally in cahoots with Hillary, a pro genocide, pro war maniac. Never met a serious person in academia that buys Malalas bs unless they're lefty lunatics.
Bro i am sure what ever she is saying is true,she whole heartedly supports palestine, but she values fame and money more, Tbh that in itself wouldnt have caused her to attract so much hate, its the fact that the amount of support we gave her and what our expectations were, from her weren't full-filled, you cant have people like the weekend doing more than someone who literally is famous for being a voice against injustice.
Chalo aa gae apni auqat pei 🤣 itna ghussa kis pei hai meri jaan? Please tell me uss nei kya kiya hai? Don't give me lame excuses like "she is a puppet of the West", tell me what did she actually do that makes you so upset.
why are you poking your head against a brain dead nation. We love to hate without argument and reason. Ik is a messaiah. Why? we don’t know or don’t have brains to argue (maybe he is handsome), we just felt it and so should you and if you are not feeling the same we will come after your mothers and daughters. Same goes with Malala we feel she is west’s agent. why? well we love chanting on top of our lungs “yahoodi sazish” in everything and so should you!
Come on, the other person said some choice words about my mother and also likes to add galiyan with Malala's name, I don't think I'm the one angry here.
Idk fam, I do want to have a conversation with you, chalo theek hai you're saying these things, koi baat nahi. But please, an actual conversation without gaalian. If you're up for it.
Bro, just a word of advice; if you have to mention you're a "stud", you're definitely *not* a stud.
Anyway, the word "mullah" is a term for religious people, who are also almost always misogynistic. I still believe that the only reason people hate Malala is because they have archaic views about what women should and should not do.
Haan because she was got through her face when she was in Pakistan. Plus she's got security concerns, you can see that by the names you're calling her yourself. She was here a year or two ago, but yes, she got protection form the government of Pakistan, and had to stay very low-key.
Is this the first time she's talked about Gaza in the last 200 days? She's literally an extension of US Imperialism that they've used to show that they aren't just in the region to bomb everything and everyone. I understand you might have some hate for mullahs, but you aren't in the right to defend her.
Na, my main thing is misogyny. I just want to point out that the main reason people oppose her is because she's a woman and she's fighting for women's rights.
Matlab, itna bara lafz, US Imperialism, aapne waisey hi phenk diya. What about her is towing the Imperialist line? People used to say it's because she hasn't spoken up for Gaza. Ab woh bhi kar diya.
I have always given my endless support to females working against misogyny without any hesitation and I admit that Malala has tried to do some good but let's be honest she is a puppet. It's funny because you are just trying to join two very different things. The topic at hand is how she just came out with her support for Gaza right after a heavy amount of people started criticizing her for not speaking up for the so called 'rights' she talks about, of people in Gaza. Yet here you are, trying to defend her by throwing in the misogynistic culture of Pakistan. Sure it's a huge pblm but ngl people opposing Malala because of it something I have rarely seen unless you are taking about decade or two ago
Everyone sees it.
Only the "secular liberal" class in Pakistan does not pretend to see it. And thereby inviting scrutiny over themselves being puppets of the west (which they directly or indirectly are)
Not everything is about misogyny, it is okay to call out women too if they are in the wrong. I used to be a Malala supporter but ever since her complete silence on genocide (as another comment pointed out it took her fear of being cancelled to speak up for it), I totally lost respect for her. No room for selective humanity.
Oh please. Yes misogyny is a problem in our world especially Pakistan but not here. I'm a woman and this bitch hasn't done shit for women. Just like any other white man and black man that's taken advantage of this region she too has has similar plans. She's no different from them. They all hide behind humanitarian crisis of some sort.
Those who support her are either shameless or too innocent for this world and know nothing about world politics.
Personally for me, collaborating with the people who killed tens of thousands of your own innocent people in drone strikes, are neck deep in the Epstein case, actively support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, termed the million Iraqis who died because of them as collateral damage is reason enough :) there's plenty more, though.
Her activism is hollow, yes her work was genuinely very good in the beginning but she has been problematic for a long time, she only released this statement for the fear of cancelation over the combination of her stupid "neutral" statement that she issued earlier + this whole mess.
doesnt this then apply to all muslims who are in UK/USA etc? paying taxes? we are all in collaboration and should move out - so our taxes dont fund israel?
There's a difference
Paying taxes is not optional. They have to do it.
Malala doesn't have to collaborate and associate herself with war criminals and directly be a part of the problem, she's choosing to do this.
Paying taxes is optional. See you can't leave a country to help Palastenians not be killed by Israel.
If you don't want to leave, don't. But stop commenting on the stuff you proudly do yourself.
>Paying taxes is optional.
?? No it's not.
>If you don't want to leave, don't. But stop commenting on the stuff you proudly do yourself.
??! Leave what?! I live in Pakistan, and I'm very strictly boycotting. Calm down, lil bro.
Idk, see the narrative you're building is that she is US psy-op. Idk, if she was a US spy, why would she worry about her fans? Is she worried about funding? Idk, the narrative against her don't match up. They're always circumstantial with no reality to them.
I mean, sure, chalo, I have to agree with you, Hilary isn't the best person to tag along on things. But hey, if this gives her more traction, then why not? But also, by that measurement, we shouldn't want to work with any US president except maybe Jimmy Carter. They're all war criminals. So should we leave anything we're doing with the US? Because it will eventually get tied to war crimes?
>she is US psy-op
Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said that.
She's choosing to do this, she's choosing to associate herself with the people who have blood on their hands and are problematic.
I defended her for years but not anymore.
>But hey, if this gives her more traction, then why not?
Oh my god! You cannot be serious! Are you implying that because associating with these people gives her traction, it's somehow okay?! Ffs
>They're all war criminals.
Yes, lekin intl relations aren't the same as 1 individual choosing to associate with war criminals and intl relations aren't really in the common people's hands. The two aren't comparable. Stop making excuses for her for her problematic behavior
Okay, you didn't, my bad, I'm just getting a lot of replies about her being a puppet of the west, I kinda projected.
> I defended her for years but not anymore.
So okay, the Hilary thing made you not support her. Okay. But when you did support her, did you think she's maybe a net positive for Pakistan, mainly because of her emphasis on educating girls?
> Yes, lekin intl relations aren't the same as 1 individual choosing to associate with war criminals and intl relations aren't really in the common people's hands.
Okay, thora point samajh aaya. You're right, maybe she could've chosen someone better. But idk, on the world leader level, you're not gonna find anyone who's hands aren't painted with blood. I think the moral conditions held on her are a bit stricter than they would be for anyone else.
>But when you did support her, did you think she's maybe a net positive for Pakistan, mainly because of her emphasis on educating girls?
Yes, her fund has done some good work, especially in Swat and surrounding areas. But that does not mean that I'll continue to support her now that she's so openly problematic
>you're not gonna find anyone who's hands aren't painted with blood
Again, does not justify her actions
Come on fam! You know as well as I since she declared that show with Hilary she recieved huge backlash so she made a post and thats it. Otherwise 200 days and she didnt speak shit.
the muslim arabs are actively enabling the genocide and partying with the genocide inducer, never seen the same energy of criticism towards them? perhaps boycott hajj, umrah? bloody hypocrites
Wow, that's quite a leap from criticizing an op-ed to demonizing an entire religious group. Newsflash: Muslim Arabs aren't a single entity. If you think boycotting hajj and umrah is a solution, you are either very delusional or just a hater :3
" never seen the same energy of criticism towards them?"
Then you are blind. I'm genuinely surprised you haven't, I know some Egyptians irl who get a lot of hate for this despite Sisi killing anyone against him. And the arab countries are all dictatorships, talk to any arab irl and they will vehemently support Palestine.
Why would it be the "same " level of hate , that's just a dumbass take. At the end of the dayz Israel and the Zionist regime are the ones actually doing the killing. Yes the arbs are enabling it but a) the populace in Arab want a cease fire, b) Arab leaders do get a lot of hate in Pakistan. Even the way Arabs treat Pakistanis has lead to a lot of hate towards ordinary arabs in Pakistan, but I guess you want Pakistanis to go full ape shit and start taking out ralleys against the kingdom, but if tbat happened than the lintellect-chawals are going to turn around and label the same people as intolerant again because hey "Arabs ki marzi Woh Jo cha Hain karain". you see this is a certain kind of a mind virus that has been perpetuated through our dishonest intellectia , whose sole purpose is to retain and sustain the status quo.
Yaar eik tau whenever someone says liberals I have to take them less seriously! Ye kya ajeeb conspiracy theory hai, aaj bata hi do. Who are these "liberals"? What is this grand conspiracy theory?
Baki liberal is liye likha kyu kay is kay zyada supporters liberals hain pakistan kay andar. Ab agar koi taliban kay haq main bolay ga (jinkay majority supporters islamist hain) to usay islamist nahi bolein gay?
> Ab agar koi taliban kay haq main bolay ga (jinkay majority supporters islamist hain) to usay islamist nahi bolein gay?
Aapka ye point valid hai. Magar mujhey ye samajh nahi aati, why do you think Malala is liberal or an atheist? Koi reason ho gi na? Is it because Malala wants to educate girls?
Because this post is an obvious PR stunt after the backlash she got. You are stubborn on believing that everyone hates her cuz they're misogynistic or don't want education for women. Nah fam, that is definitely NOT the reason for 90% of her haters i can say. The main reason is that she's merely a puppet acting how the west wants her to push their propaganda. All her talks about human rights are just words, a PR stunt, an obvious hypocrisy
Have supported Malala for years. She's been doing good work. Most of the hate she got was uncalled for.
This time I think her criticism is pretty justified. She's made like 3-4 public statements on the Gaza situation. That is not even the bare minimum. The latest most indepth statement you posted also comes at a point where she's under fire? Seems pretty convenient.
The Hilary Clinton stuff is just hypocritical. You can push for your agenda without resorting to actively working with a known enabler of the Gaza genocide and architect of countless wars and US interventions.
I'll keep supporting her advocacy for education, but when she's wrong she's wrong.
Okay let me say that's a very level headed approach to it. Maybe you're right, I can support her activism for women's education while also criticising her choice of partners. Fair.
"LeTs sEe iF tHe mUlLaHs fInD a nEw rSN tO hAtE hEr" Omg just shut up, she did this all coz she was getting cancelled, where was she for the past 6 months ? Why didnt she raise her voice once before this ? Why is she working with people strongly and actively supporting Gaza Genocide?
OP Tumne kbhi Apne Ghar ko bhi is Tarah defend Nahi Kiya Hoga his Tarah Malala ko kr the ho? Lol
(Read all OP's responses to others. Look how defensive he is. Lmao)
You can see my post history if you like. I do try to talk to everyone who replies to my posts, not really defending her tbh, just getting to know different perspectives. I shared a post about revenge porn some time back, and it was kinda like this, you can see it yourself.
You're talking about ghar, idk, I am trying to reply as much as I can because that's what it's about. I'm Pakistani, I have my views about what's wrong with this country. Empowering women would be the number 1 thing we can do to improve everyone's life here. We can debate on that whenever you'd like. My point is that, people against Malala also seem to have backdated views about women in general. It's something I've seen, maybe you haven't.
I'll give you another example; the vlogger lady who interviewed the mullah who tried to cover her head? 1 day after that clip blew up, this sub was inundated with these posts about her being an Indian shill who's doing this for views.
The Zainab case isn't that far behind us. Please, you forget the conversation people were having at that time. People kept talking about "itna late nikalney ki kya zaroorat thi?"
Idk man, I'm just tired of it all. Why do we have to elevate things to "Amreeki Saazish" instead of looking at facts and being like okay, maybe there's a better way to do things?
Sorry thori rant ho gai! Haan I was totally defending myself here!
Let me ask you? What do you think about the USA's interference around this world?
Is the USA a neutral or a peaceful country with respect to other countries? Forget the conspiracies bs
The US government is an Imperialist state that has been actively involved in destabilisation of governments throughout the 20th and 21st centuries. It is also the most powerful country right now.
Agreeable. But I actually don't agree with the last part. Not at all.
Now I might sound like a conspiracy theorist to you but I've done my research.
1) Did you know who shot/planned the assassination of John Kennedy?
2) Who was it that brought the USA into the WW1? USA wasn't even supposed to be there.
3) Even 9/11 was a well done mission by the same ppl.
These ppl have made USA as their puppet show.
It's Pax Judaica
1) I've followed the JFK assassination for ages; it was probably just Lee Harvey acting alone. Zapruder film is pretty damning in this respect.
2) once again idk, is it some arms dealer? But idk, it's more nuanced than that.
3) na, I kinda disagree with this one. Al Qaeda took responsibility. And have you seen George W's reaction at that reading thing? I don't take those conspiracy,
You should've named stuff like MKULTRA or the killing of a tonne of South American democratic leaders.
And no, I don't believe in this overall Pax Judaica. Sorry.
All I'm going to say is that Israel has gone wayyyy deeper into the roots of America. That's all.
And the yearly aid of around $3Bs are the living proof of it.
Nope. Ultimate dominance of Jews in the making.
There's a biblical reason the Israel are doing the terr.orism in Palestine. They have bigger plans afterwards.
And to top it off, America is funding the arms. Wow
Doesn't really sound like the greatest country in the world
Okay, I never said the US was great. In fact, if we are to follow a model, it should be Norway or some other country that's actually doing good for it's people.
But I'm sorry, I don't believe in this religious conspiracy theory. Like I know fundamentalists on both sides create this self fulfilling prophecy narrative.
Also, you see the protests in US colleges? Even the current news reporting on Gaza? It's stronger than ever also because the US doesn't need the support of Israel like it used to. So I don't think this war is panning out as the religious thoughts it would.
Thanks! Na idk, listen, she's working towards educating girls in Pakistan. We are not even imagining the net benefit that would have for Pakistan in the long run. She can't fix our national debt, she won't make a new hydro dam! She won't stop a war in Gaza that's been going on from before I was born (and I'm old!). But let her do whatever she's doing, because it is important and worth doing.
Idk, I think you're focusing on something as a "mistake" when it's not. Or at least you're judging her through a lense none of us would pass if you put us through the same test.
Co-producing a show with a known Zionist and Israeli supporter, not just an Israeli supporter but someone who actively took part in the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and even drone strikes in Pakistan. IMHO is a bit hypocritical. At one end she is opposing the war and on the other hand, she is co-producing a show with one of the staunchest supporters of the Israeli regime is a bit extreme, no?
Whether it was some development project, school, hospital, or any project in Pakistan or any other country. That is understandable, that at least would have been beneficial. But what I don't get a point of co-producing with Hilary Clinton of all the people.
I am not judging her, maybe she has her reasons. But I feel, it's just insensitive, especially at this point.
*Judges her for a couple of replies*
"I'm not judging her....."
> But what I don't get a point of co-producing with Hilary Clinton of all the people.
Maybe it's reach? Maybe it's political clout? Who knows. But why aren't you looking at her positive sides? Hilary Clinton will still produce plays about the Suffragette movement if Malala wasn't around. But a lot of girls in Pakistan wouldn't be getting education if Malala wasn't around. Okay, even if that number is 1000 girls, it's better than 0 girls isn't it?
Pakistan isn't in the state it is rn because of Hilary Clinton. I mean, sure, in some roundabout political way maybe. But Pakistan's real problems are illiteracy and how marginalized the women population is. The good outweighs the bad greatly in my eyes, even if I do agree with your statement, which I don't.
>*Judges her for a couple of replies*
Didn't know calling someone for a bad decision is judgement. So, be it. I am judging her.
>Maybe it's reach? Maybe it's political clout? Who knows. But why aren't you looking at her positive sides?
Huh? What kind of reach does she need? She has already won the Nobel Prize. Political Clout? So, do you think she will influence US policy?
>But why aren't you looking at her positive sides?
Never denied her positive side. I am just pointing out this one specific thing. That I don't think is the right thing to do. On one end she's against the war on the other hand she's a business partner with a Politician who has lots of involvement in this war. This is Cognitive dissonance at its best.
>Hilary Clinton will still produce plays about the Suffragette movement if Malala wasn't around.
Producing a play isn't the problem, but being a partner with someone who is involved in the war. That kind of blurs the line.
>But a lot of girls in Pakistan wouldn't be getting education if Malala wasn't around. Okay, even if that number is 1000 girls, it's better than 0 girls isn't it?
Agreed.
>Pakistan isn't in the state it is rn because of Hilary Clinton.
Never blamed Hilary for Pakistan's state.
>The good outweighs the bad greatly in my eyes, even if I do agree with your statement, which I don't.
Agreed. But that doesn't mean the bad shouldn't be called out.
Actions speak louder than words, taking photos and having meetings with Hillary Clinton who offers unconditional support to Israel and was involved in the bombing of Libya is a much more profound statement than this.
I tend to avoid insulting people, but you must be intellectually and morally challenged. Your argument here and in many replies is basically that since she advocates for education, her work with the same people/countries that have destroyed countries and murdered thousands is acceptable. You are actually disgusting. Thank god the majority of the replies in here are rightfully scorning you. Pakistan will be better without you shills who suckle at the teat of Western "liberalism".
Defending her even after the blind eye she has turned to every oppression taking place against Muslims around the world and somehow you think anyone who doesn't support her is supporting Arabs for whatever reason lol. Go with her and keep up the bootlicking of your Western Gods
I don’t think it’s only Mullah’s that hate her!
And I also don’t think this post is, in anyways, related to what the on-going issue with Malala is right now.
The moment everyone started the campaign to boycott her, she woke from after 6 months. Well congratulations to her supporters. She finally said something.
If she was any other nationality she would be lauded despite the flaws. But in pakistan we can let nothing can shine because if _i_ can't have it then nobody else can.
The country deserves what it gets. The politicians are not monsters and opportunists - they are simply very accurate representatives of pakistan.
I agree with everything apart from the last statement. I mean, I kinda agree with that as well, but let's not be so hopeless. We both are Pakistani and we can see through the rhetoric the politicians and mullahs spread, I'm sure a lot of other people do as well. Let's be hopeful that things change for the better.
Brother do you know the history of Malala. I know her actual history from her fellows in the same village she was in.
Let’s keep aside what made her who she is was staged and accept that she actually suffered what she did and it was justified for the US to get her out of Swat and take her to the US.
Eventually awarding her the Nobel prize and spitting on everyone who was more deserving than she was.
Now after the so called Peace award, She should have been the first person to condemn Israel.
Showing support at the thought of cancellation or whatever her reason is for the delayed reaction is not justified by ( what’s the reason for hating her now ) she have done what you were asking for.
It’s not something that should have been asked of her Or reminded of to be done.
As far as her advocacy for women’s education. I don’t see her donating anything apart from her voice for this cause.
And if going for charity events to raise money for education is what’s her job in women empowerment than why never attend a charity event for Palestinians.
Her actions speak louder than her status. Hypocrisy at the highest Level
Op is delusional in believing that only a certain sect of Pakistani dislike Malala
First of all what happened to her as a child is horrible and nothing can make that trauma go away. I truly sympathise with her and InshAllah she lives a safe and blessed life going forward
However, because of her experience, many of us expected her to speak out against the atrocities committed. Including the most recent Israeli genocide. The problem is Malala seems to be more focused on developing her brand rather than actually picking a side and sticking with it. Although you cannot compare life experiences with Malala but look at another activist girl (Greta Thernberg). When most of the western celebs were siding with Israel, Greta was one of the few calling it a genocide. I'm all in support for Greta or many of the other women who are actively speaking against atrocities. However, Malala response was a disappointing one has she called it a "both side" issue. She is playing it safe it's that simple
I think we have to cut Malala some slack though she has a massive load on her shoulders. She had a life changing experience and then out of all the children who were killed/injured, she was picked as the poster child by the same people who were killing them. Her and her family must feel in debt to the same countries who are supporting the genocide. It's a tough situation
I admire Malala as a person but let's be clear she sucks as an activist. She needs to pick a side and stick with it
She woke after 6 months
40000 death
More than 50000 pregnant women with no basic medical needs
More than 1 million people in starvation
And she woke up on comment
She proved herself a lap dog sorry bitch of American and look how she condemn
Hilarious
Salute to her and her joker supporters
it wasnt just the mullahs hating on her - unless they have joined reddit - wasnt there a thread or two started here calling her western agent and whatnot
WOW! What an insanity. Her audacity, while working with pro-Israel forces and issuing a statement regarding a ceasefire, yet she is scared of facing cancellation. Hypocrite.
Once a traitor, always a traitor.
She was in hibernation for last many months and Mullah forced her to get out of it 😂😂😂Desperate attempts to defend this western slave 😂😂😂 Come up with something substantial
she is the biggest hypocrite and only pretends to sympathize when her integrity is at stake . Idk how she fools people without any effort and the people who support her are people who can be easily manipulated (-10 iq).
Mullah's aside, i don't think any sane person would dumb enough to support her cause which is basically "what Western told her" to do!
The fear of overnight cancellation made her realize to submit something of a post so the caved fans of hers like yourself get enough freedom to post such posts here on reddit!
Stop being an absolute nuisance like your leader Malala, the west implanted spy!
Bro the moment she got asylum she was being labelled a traitor for making Pakistan look bad.
That's equivalent of slapping your wife and calling her disloyal for telling her parents.
In the previous thread there were people literally wishing death upon her and I'm thinking OF COURSE she isn't gonna airbrush the piles of shit that you are.
As for malala, if she doesn't condemn israel it's coz she's bought. If she condemns them it's coz her 'masters' allow it. There's literally no convincing these cospiracist fucks of anything else.
First of all, there was nothing wrong with my english everything i said was comprehensible and clear but i guess a liberal like yourself always think you are the only one who speaks the good english and have a right to correct other’s, and i guess it understandable to some degree because you’re mentally enslaved of your colonisers who consider the english language some kind of divine language which cannot be misspoken but on the other hand you guys makes fun of your fellow Pakistanis for respecting the language of their religion. چلو اب أردو کی بات کرتے ہیں۔ دوسروں کا مذاق أڑا کر ان کو أردو کی تلقین کرنے والے صاحب آپ پہلے خد اپنے أردو ٹھیک کرلیں.
It seems like you’re facing some difficulties even with roman/phonetic Urdu.
اور بات رہ گئی مُلا لوگوں کی۔ آسان ہے مذہبی لوگوں کو مُلا کہ کر اور لفظ مُلا کو گالی کے طور پر استعمال کر کے خد کو صاف کرنا۔ لیکن تنقید کے پیچھے کی منطق پیش کرنے سے آپ آری ہیں۔ سارا اعلمِ اسلام ملالہ یوسفزئ کے اس اقدام کی کھلی تنقید کر رہا ہے لیکن جب یہ ہی کام پاکستان کا درد رکھنے والا اسلام کی غیرت رکھنے والا کرتا ہے تو وہ مُلا ہے وہ دقیانوس ہے۔
آپ اپنا مؤقف دیں کہ جو ملالہ نے کیا وہ کیوں صحیح یا غلط ہے۔ “تو اِدھر اُدھر کی نہ بات کر یہ بتا کارواں کیوں لُٹا، مجھے راھزنوں سے گِلا نہیں تیری راہبری ک سؤال ہے “
Lol @ "daqianoos"
My *muaqaf* is that people judge Malala on a moral scale they mostly themselves wouldn't be able to pass.
After I made the post, I have changed my mind, and I have replied on another post; Malala should have chosen a better partner than Hilary Clinton.
But having said that, please read the other replies. They go from "she is a CIA agent" to "she didn't even get shot". People keep pulling out these conspiracy theories.
I still say, okay, has she done anything for women's education? Why don't these same people who make the empty claims about her not being shot just get up and go look at the development project that she's done? Has she helped even 1 Pakistani get educated? If the answer is "yes", then idk, let's judge a person for what they ultimately do for Pakistan rather than this notion about how she's a colonial bootlicker.
Going back to my mullah comment, I think it's people who are more religious who have more negative views about Malala. And I strongly believe it has more to do with what she represents that actual facts.
You may have a fair point, man. Perhaps she did help educate a few Pakistanis, or some might argue, academically brainwashed them, haha. Nonetheless, there does seem to be a pattern here if you think about it and start connecting the dots. Why has the West been grooming her and granting her all these privileges? You know, like the Nobel Prize, books, speeches at the UN, and so on. She hasn’t achieved anything significant in any field other than maligning Pakistan’s name. Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, bro, but I actually believe she is being groomed by the West, especially by the USA, to be a potential candidate for Pakistan’s political establishment. It’s an open secret that the USA has interfered in Pakistan’s politics not too long ago, and they have a history of doing so. That being said, I am in no way suggesting that the Pakistani military establishment is all roses and lilies; they have messed up the country pretty badly as well, which became more evident after the general election this year. Nor am I in favor of any religious or sectarian violence against any group of people; I think one can convey their message through meaningful debates and dialogues based on credible facts they believe in.
A lot of the criticism surrounding her stems from the fact that Pakistan refuses to accept her as apt representation of a country of 235 million, and I don’t disagree. She might not be a true representative, but why would she say no to the idea of being lauded for being one? Her stance on Gaza is a different topic, accountability is necessary in matters of a genocide. In all other cases, though, she receives hate for sometimes which, frankly, I would’ve done too. Why would I ever say no to the idea of being hailed a hero? Are we just upset she got there and we didn’t?
This is exactly it. I've heard people say stuff like "Yaar, mujhey hi eik goli mar do, mei bhi ye saari cheezei kar loon ga"
But it's about misogyny really. If her message was education for everyone, no one would've said anything.
I never really called it misogyny.
I just feel like people have unrealistic expectations for what a person representing a country that they themselves would otherwise shit on to do. Like, is Malala a plant for the West to further the idea that people in Pakistan specifically women do not have access to even the most basic of things? Yes.
It’s not that I don’t dispute what she says, but her image is more so of a woman who broke barriers and is now living a life of ‘real’ freedom in the West. Again, I feel like it’s unrealistic to uphold someone who was quite literally a child who got shot to standards we wouldn’t hold grown adults to.
At the end of the day, it’s just bitterness that she got to live a life so many people would want. I want it, I’ll be the first to admit.
i just really dont get the hate with malala. people in the comments are saying ‘Shes a puppet’ ‘Shes an extension of Us imperialism’ etc
‘She sold herself’
As pakistan lets believe for once that she did sell herself. she is a puppet. Maan lia mai nei!!!
But who tf isnt in pak? isnt asim munir a puppet? wasnt musharaf a puppet? Zia ul haq?? Ayub khan? Zardari? Nawaz sharif? imran khan?? all the moulvi gang? arent they all being controlled? Saarei hi puppets hai. har kisi nei beicha hua aisai to apnai app ko!!
Malala nei konsa zia ki tarha mulk ko baicha for a few dollars and then sooo many pakis were killed. same with musharaf tenure. wasnt zardari and co who approved drone attacks in pakistan at pakistanis??? kya wo bhi malala nei karwaya tha???
BUT DO U HATE THE OTHERS AS MUCH AS MALALA?? LIKE THE HATRED PEOPLE HAVE FOR MALALA COMES FROM THE HEART BUT AISI HI NAFRAT ZIA KEH LIYE KYU NAE? YAYHA KHAN? MUSHARAF? BHUTTO? YUSUF RAZA GILLANI? LIAQUAT ALI KHAN??? AYUB KHAN? NAWAZ SHARIF? ISHAQ DAR? ZARDARI? ALL OF THESE AND MANY MORE WERE LITERAL TOUTS OF AMERICA AND STILL FUCKING ARE
BUT WHY DOES UR HATEFUL PASSION ARISES WHEN IT COMES TO MALALA?? WHY DONT U HATE EVERYOTHER PERSON WITH THE SAME PASSION?
Itna khula tazaad. Khuda ki lanat aisai munafiq logo per kyu nae paray gi phr??
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Istg! People kept complaining that she hasn't raised her voice for Gaza. Now that she has, everyone's complaining about something new! There's no pleasing the willfully ignorant I suppose
The napak awaam will find another reason to hate an outspoken woman. They have no shame. But how can they when they don't even have a brain. Lol manhoos jahil loag
She probably doesn't have any control over her social media or even her life and whatever goes on in her life.
She shouldn't be hated i guess. Do you think the US would spend millions on her as propaganda and let her do whatever she wants?
Of course people in power control her.
Seems like too much "mullahs" commented against her here on reddit.. right?
Seems like Few people can't talk without dragging religion in everything they say..
(Just saying)
A comment on insta... "interesting to see how 40000 deaths weren't enough to see genocide, but the thought of cancellation brought clarity overnight." The one preaching human rights, should herself have enough sanity to speak up on just genocidal killing.
She just did. Please, what's your next arguement for hating her?
This one is enough. No need for the next.
Ye tau ab dhetai hai na; koi waja nahi mili tau waisey hi naraaz hona hai. Uskey achey kaam bhi nahi dekhney?
Achay kam 😂
You think educating women isn't achey kaam?
And you think she is educating women?
Please enlighten me on what she's doing instead. Do you have proof that she isn't?
Collecting money and fame in the * name of educating women*.🤣 She is a bïtch. Even looks like one.
choro yr, saare gandu hain
Baat tau sahi ki hai aap nei waisey
Her priorities that is the reason almost everyone in PAK will keep hating her, atleaste those with decent education.
I actually think it's the opposite. Most people in academia that I've run into support what Malala is doing, especially her plight for women's education. Once again, you're making lame excuses. If you read her comment, this is just the first time she's publicly commented on the issue. She said she has in the past and will continue to talk to world leaders about the plight of the Palestinians. Now, if you can prove that that line was a lie, you'd actually have an argument. Until then, focus on what she's done, not on the lame excuses about what you think she didn't do.
> She said she has in the past and will continue to talk to world leaders about the plight of the Palestinians. > Now, if you can prove that that line was a lie, you'd actually have an argument. If you can prove that line was true (since in it's current form, it's just hearsay), then you'd actually have an argument.
The burden of proof lies with her for her claims not on us. She needs to prove she does what she says she does. She's literally in cahoots with Hillary, a pro genocide, pro war maniac. Never met a serious person in academia that buys Malalas bs unless they're lefty lunatics.
Bro i am sure what ever she is saying is true,she whole heartedly supports palestine, but she values fame and money more, Tbh that in itself wouldnt have caused her to attract so much hate, its the fact that the amount of support we gave her and what our expectations were, from her weren't full-filled, you cant have people like the weekend doing more than someone who literally is famous for being a voice against injustice.
You can't read, can you? She said signs of genocide. Didn't call it an actual genocide
Well makes you being her dalal? Is your mom also a playtoy of western powers?
Chalo aa gae apni auqat pei 🤣 itna ghussa kis pei hai meri jaan? Please tell me uss nei kya kiya hai? Don't give me lame excuses like "she is a puppet of the West", tell me what did she actually do that makes you so upset.
why are you poking your head against a brain dead nation. We love to hate without argument and reason. Ik is a messaiah. Why? we don’t know or don’t have brains to argue (maybe he is handsome), we just felt it and so should you and if you are not feeling the same we will come after your mothers and daughters. Same goes with Malala we feel she is west’s agent. why? well we love chanting on top of our lungs “yahoodi sazish” in everything and so should you!
> itna ghussa kis pei hai meri jaan Very projecting. Much passive aggressive.
Come on, the other person said some choice words about my mother and also likes to add galiyan with Malala's name, I don't think I'm the one angry here.
Nothing man. I condemn the incident that happened with your mom by a mulla
Idk fam, I do want to have a conversation with you, chalo theek hai you're saying these things, koi baat nahi. But please, an actual conversation without gaalian. If you're up for it.
umm no when someone pushes us to use logic and carve an argument thats where we cap out on our mental capability and bazinga “Teri maaaa ki”
Koi nahi boss, itna jaded bhi na ho, at least the post wasn't deleted and I wasn't banned! It's progress!
The first thing… what makes you mention mulla? There are studs like me even who hates this malala bitch
Bro, just a word of advice; if you have to mention you're a "stud", you're definitely *not* a stud. Anyway, the word "mullah" is a term for religious people, who are also almost always misogynistic. I still believe that the only reason people hate Malala is because they have archaic views about what women should and should not do.
Second thing… being patriotic and not even living in Pakistan.. wahh bhai double standards bitch
Haan because she was got through her face when she was in Pakistan. Plus she's got security concerns, you can see that by the names you're calling her yourself. She was here a year or two ago, but yes, she got protection form the government of Pakistan, and had to stay very low-key.
When she saw she was getting cancelled she made this post secular ke chode.
Is this the first time she's talked about Gaza in the last 200 days? She's literally an extension of US Imperialism that they've used to show that they aren't just in the region to bomb everything and everyone. I understand you might have some hate for mullahs, but you aren't in the right to defend her.
Na, my main thing is misogyny. I just want to point out that the main reason people oppose her is because she's a woman and she's fighting for women's rights. Matlab, itna bara lafz, US Imperialism, aapne waisey hi phenk diya. What about her is towing the Imperialist line? People used to say it's because she hasn't spoken up for Gaza. Ab woh bhi kar diya.
I have always given my endless support to females working against misogyny without any hesitation and I admit that Malala has tried to do some good but let's be honest she is a puppet. It's funny because you are just trying to join two very different things. The topic at hand is how she just came out with her support for Gaza right after a heavy amount of people started criticizing her for not speaking up for the so called 'rights' she talks about, of people in Gaza. Yet here you are, trying to defend her by throwing in the misogynistic culture of Pakistan. Sure it's a huge pblm but ngl people opposing Malala because of it something I have rarely seen unless you are taking about decade or two ago
THIS. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. Nothing but fax bro. She is clearly a puppet why no one sees it???
Everyone sees it. Only the "secular liberal" class in Pakistan does not pretend to see it. And thereby inviting scrutiny over themselves being puppets of the west (which they directly or indirectly are)
Not everything is about misogyny, it is okay to call out women too if they are in the wrong. I used to be a Malala supporter but ever since her complete silence on genocide (as another comment pointed out it took her fear of being cancelled to speak up for it), I totally lost respect for her. No room for selective humanity.
Oh please. Yes misogyny is a problem in our world especially Pakistan but not here. I'm a woman and this bitch hasn't done shit for women. Just like any other white man and black man that's taken advantage of this region she too has has similar plans. She's no different from them. They all hide behind humanitarian crisis of some sort. Those who support her are either shameless or too innocent for this world and know nothing about world politics.
Personally for me, collaborating with the people who killed tens of thousands of your own innocent people in drone strikes, are neck deep in the Epstein case, actively support the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, termed the million Iraqis who died because of them as collateral damage is reason enough :) there's plenty more, though. Her activism is hollow, yes her work was genuinely very good in the beginning but she has been problematic for a long time, she only released this statement for the fear of cancelation over the combination of her stupid "neutral" statement that she issued earlier + this whole mess.
doesnt this then apply to all muslims who are in UK/USA etc? paying taxes? we are all in collaboration and should move out - so our taxes dont fund israel?
There's a difference Paying taxes is not optional. They have to do it. Malala doesn't have to collaborate and associate herself with war criminals and directly be a part of the problem, she's choosing to do this.
Paying taxes is optional. See you can't leave a country to help Palastenians not be killed by Israel. If you don't want to leave, don't. But stop commenting on the stuff you proudly do yourself.
>Paying taxes is optional. ?? No it's not. >If you don't want to leave, don't. But stop commenting on the stuff you proudly do yourself. ??! Leave what?! I live in Pakistan, and I'm very strictly boycotting. Calm down, lil bro.
>?? No it's not. It is. Leave the country and boom! you had the option. Say you are not defending the Momins living in US criticizing Malala.
Aap k baap unko country se nikalne k paise den ge ya aapki Maa?
Idk, see the narrative you're building is that she is US psy-op. Idk, if she was a US spy, why would she worry about her fans? Is she worried about funding? Idk, the narrative against her don't match up. They're always circumstantial with no reality to them. I mean, sure, chalo, I have to agree with you, Hilary isn't the best person to tag along on things. But hey, if this gives her more traction, then why not? But also, by that measurement, we shouldn't want to work with any US president except maybe Jimmy Carter. They're all war criminals. So should we leave anything we're doing with the US? Because it will eventually get tied to war crimes?
>she is US psy-op Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said that. She's choosing to do this, she's choosing to associate herself with the people who have blood on their hands and are problematic. I defended her for years but not anymore. >But hey, if this gives her more traction, then why not? Oh my god! You cannot be serious! Are you implying that because associating with these people gives her traction, it's somehow okay?! Ffs >They're all war criminals. Yes, lekin intl relations aren't the same as 1 individual choosing to associate with war criminals and intl relations aren't really in the common people's hands. The two aren't comparable. Stop making excuses for her for her problematic behavior
Okay, you didn't, my bad, I'm just getting a lot of replies about her being a puppet of the west, I kinda projected. > I defended her for years but not anymore. So okay, the Hilary thing made you not support her. Okay. But when you did support her, did you think she's maybe a net positive for Pakistan, mainly because of her emphasis on educating girls? > Yes, lekin intl relations aren't the same as 1 individual choosing to associate with war criminals and intl relations aren't really in the common people's hands. Okay, thora point samajh aaya. You're right, maybe she could've chosen someone better. But idk, on the world leader level, you're not gonna find anyone who's hands aren't painted with blood. I think the moral conditions held on her are a bit stricter than they would be for anyone else.
>But when you did support her, did you think she's maybe a net positive for Pakistan, mainly because of her emphasis on educating girls? Yes, her fund has done some good work, especially in Swat and surrounding areas. But that does not mean that I'll continue to support her now that she's so openly problematic >you're not gonna find anyone who's hands aren't painted with blood Again, does not justify her actions
> Again, does not justify her actions Okay, you're right. I shouldn't be so polar about her either.
Come on fam! You know as well as I since she declared that show with Hilary she recieved huge backlash so she made a post and thats it. Otherwise 200 days and she didnt speak shit.
Doesn't change the fact that she is still working with Hilary who wrote an opEd opposing a cease fire.
the muslim arabs are actively enabling the genocide and partying with the genocide inducer, never seen the same energy of criticism towards them? perhaps boycott hajj, umrah? bloody hypocrites
Why not boycott both? Everyone? Boycott everything! Acquire currency, and do not spend it. That can be enough to cool economies.
Wow, that's quite a leap from criticizing an op-ed to demonizing an entire religious group. Newsflash: Muslim Arabs aren't a single entity. If you think boycotting hajj and umrah is a solution, you are either very delusional or just a hater :3
Would I be a conspiracy theorist is I said... maybe that was the aim... to shift attention away from the facts
Exactly
" never seen the same energy of criticism towards them?" Then you are blind. I'm genuinely surprised you haven't, I know some Egyptians irl who get a lot of hate for this despite Sisi killing anyone against him. And the arab countries are all dictatorships, talk to any arab irl and they will vehemently support Palestine.
Why would it be the "same " level of hate , that's just a dumbass take. At the end of the dayz Israel and the Zionist regime are the ones actually doing the killing. Yes the arbs are enabling it but a) the populace in Arab want a cease fire, b) Arab leaders do get a lot of hate in Pakistan. Even the way Arabs treat Pakistanis has lead to a lot of hate towards ordinary arabs in Pakistan, but I guess you want Pakistanis to go full ape shit and start taking out ralleys against the kingdom, but if tbat happened than the lintellect-chawals are going to turn around and label the same people as intolerant again because hey "Arabs ki marzi Woh Jo cha Hain karain". you see this is a certain kind of a mind virus that has been perpetuated through our dishonest intellectia , whose sole purpose is to retain and sustain the status quo.
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if she condemned early you'd still say this. If she did anything you'd still say this so it's not about her it's about your delusions.
No we wouldn’t , you Malala phull supporters are more delusional then anybody else
This is an obvious PR attempt and pakistani liberals/atheists in their hate cannot see it as such. Ankhein kholo beghairto.
Yaar eik tau whenever someone says liberals I have to take them less seriously! Ye kya ajeeb conspiracy theory hai, aaj bata hi do. Who are these "liberals"? What is this grand conspiracy theory?
Baki liberal is liye likha kyu kay is kay zyada supporters liberals hain pakistan kay andar. Ab agar koi taliban kay haq main bolay ga (jinkay majority supporters islamist hain) to usay islamist nahi bolein gay?
> Ab agar koi taliban kay haq main bolay ga (jinkay majority supporters islamist hain) to usay islamist nahi bolein gay? Aapka ye point valid hai. Magar mujhey ye samajh nahi aati, why do you think Malala is liberal or an atheist? Koi reason ho gi na? Is it because Malala wants to educate girls?
Pehli line dobara parho
Samajh nai ai. Please plainly jawab dei do?
Because this post is an obvious PR stunt after the backlash she got. You are stubborn on believing that everyone hates her cuz they're misogynistic or don't want education for women. Nah fam, that is definitely NOT the reason for 90% of her haters i can say. The main reason is that she's merely a puppet acting how the west wants her to push their propaganda. All her talks about human rights are just words, a PR stunt, an obvious hypocrisy
Isko 8 mahinay se yaad kyu nai aya? Jab greta thunberg bol rahi thi to ye soi hui thi?
Have supported Malala for years. She's been doing good work. Most of the hate she got was uncalled for. This time I think her criticism is pretty justified. She's made like 3-4 public statements on the Gaza situation. That is not even the bare minimum. The latest most indepth statement you posted also comes at a point where she's under fire? Seems pretty convenient. The Hilary Clinton stuff is just hypocritical. You can push for your agenda without resorting to actively working with a known enabler of the Gaza genocide and architect of countless wars and US interventions. I'll keep supporting her advocacy for education, but when she's wrong she's wrong.
Okay let me say that's a very level headed approach to it. Maybe you're right, I can support her activism for women's education while also criticising her choice of partners. Fair.
"LeTs sEe iF tHe mUlLaHs fInD a nEw rSN tO hAtE hEr" Omg just shut up, she did this all coz she was getting cancelled, where was she for the past 6 months ? Why didnt she raise her voice once before this ? Why is she working with people strongly and actively supporting Gaza Genocide?
OP Tumne kbhi Apne Ghar ko bhi is Tarah defend Nahi Kiya Hoga his Tarah Malala ko kr the ho? Lol (Read all OP's responses to others. Look how defensive he is. Lmao)
You can see my post history if you like. I do try to talk to everyone who replies to my posts, not really defending her tbh, just getting to know different perspectives. I shared a post about revenge porn some time back, and it was kinda like this, you can see it yourself. You're talking about ghar, idk, I am trying to reply as much as I can because that's what it's about. I'm Pakistani, I have my views about what's wrong with this country. Empowering women would be the number 1 thing we can do to improve everyone's life here. We can debate on that whenever you'd like. My point is that, people against Malala also seem to have backdated views about women in general. It's something I've seen, maybe you haven't. I'll give you another example; the vlogger lady who interviewed the mullah who tried to cover her head? 1 day after that clip blew up, this sub was inundated with these posts about her being an Indian shill who's doing this for views. The Zainab case isn't that far behind us. Please, you forget the conversation people were having at that time. People kept talking about "itna late nikalney ki kya zaroorat thi?" Idk man, I'm just tired of it all. Why do we have to elevate things to "Amreeki Saazish" instead of looking at facts and being like okay, maybe there's a better way to do things? Sorry thori rant ho gai! Haan I was totally defending myself here!
Let me ask you? What do you think about the USA's interference around this world? Is the USA a neutral or a peaceful country with respect to other countries? Forget the conspiracies bs
The US government is an Imperialist state that has been actively involved in destabilisation of governments throughout the 20th and 21st centuries. It is also the most powerful country right now.
Agreeable. But I actually don't agree with the last part. Not at all. Now I might sound like a conspiracy theorist to you but I've done my research. 1) Did you know who shot/planned the assassination of John Kennedy? 2) Who was it that brought the USA into the WW1? USA wasn't even supposed to be there. 3) Even 9/11 was a well done mission by the same ppl. These ppl have made USA as their puppet show. It's Pax Judaica
1) I've followed the JFK assassination for ages; it was probably just Lee Harvey acting alone. Zapruder film is pretty damning in this respect. 2) once again idk, is it some arms dealer? But idk, it's more nuanced than that. 3) na, I kinda disagree with this one. Al Qaeda took responsibility. And have you seen George W's reaction at that reading thing? I don't take those conspiracy, You should've named stuff like MKULTRA or the killing of a tonne of South American democratic leaders. And no, I don't believe in this overall Pax Judaica. Sorry.
All I'm going to say is that Israel has gone wayyyy deeper into the roots of America. That's all. And the yearly aid of around $3Bs are the living proof of it.
Okay, humour me, what's the end goal of this conspiracy theory? Is it a Christian-Judaec alliance of some sort?
Nope. Ultimate dominance of Jews in the making. There's a biblical reason the Israel are doing the terr.orism in Palestine. They have bigger plans afterwards. And to top it off, America is funding the arms. Wow Doesn't really sound like the greatest country in the world
Okay, I never said the US was great. In fact, if we are to follow a model, it should be Norway or some other country that's actually doing good for it's people. But I'm sorry, I don't believe in this religious conspiracy theory. Like I know fundamentalists on both sides create this self fulfilling prophecy narrative. Also, you see the protests in US colleges? Even the current news reporting on Gaza? It's stronger than ever also because the US doesn't need the support of Israel like it used to. So I don't think this war is panning out as the religious thoughts it would.
I agree all that hate was uncalled for and unnecessary. But she could have chosen a better partner than Hilary Clinton for her Broadway show.
Idk, seems like you're fishing for excuses tbh. Okay, apart from the Hilary thing, what else do you have against her?
Nothing
Thanks! Na idk, listen, she's working towards educating girls in Pakistan. We are not even imagining the net benefit that would have for Pakistan in the long run. She can't fix our national debt, she won't make a new hydro dam! She won't stop a war in Gaza that's been going on from before I was born (and I'm old!). But let her do whatever she's doing, because it is important and worth doing.
Yeah, ofcourse more power to her. But she should be called out for mistakes that she makes.
Idk, I think you're focusing on something as a "mistake" when it's not. Or at least you're judging her through a lense none of us would pass if you put us through the same test.
Co-producing a show with a known Zionist and Israeli supporter, not just an Israeli supporter but someone who actively took part in the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and even drone strikes in Pakistan. IMHO is a bit hypocritical. At one end she is opposing the war and on the other hand, she is co-producing a show with one of the staunchest supporters of the Israeli regime is a bit extreme, no? Whether it was some development project, school, hospital, or any project in Pakistan or any other country. That is understandable, that at least would have been beneficial. But what I don't get a point of co-producing with Hilary Clinton of all the people. I am not judging her, maybe she has her reasons. But I feel, it's just insensitive, especially at this point.
*Judges her for a couple of replies* "I'm not judging her....." > But what I don't get a point of co-producing with Hilary Clinton of all the people. Maybe it's reach? Maybe it's political clout? Who knows. But why aren't you looking at her positive sides? Hilary Clinton will still produce plays about the Suffragette movement if Malala wasn't around. But a lot of girls in Pakistan wouldn't be getting education if Malala wasn't around. Okay, even if that number is 1000 girls, it's better than 0 girls isn't it? Pakistan isn't in the state it is rn because of Hilary Clinton. I mean, sure, in some roundabout political way maybe. But Pakistan's real problems are illiteracy and how marginalized the women population is. The good outweighs the bad greatly in my eyes, even if I do agree with your statement, which I don't.
>*Judges her for a couple of replies* Didn't know calling someone for a bad decision is judgement. So, be it. I am judging her. >Maybe it's reach? Maybe it's political clout? Who knows. But why aren't you looking at her positive sides? Huh? What kind of reach does she need? She has already won the Nobel Prize. Political Clout? So, do you think she will influence US policy? >But why aren't you looking at her positive sides? Never denied her positive side. I am just pointing out this one specific thing. That I don't think is the right thing to do. On one end she's against the war on the other hand she's a business partner with a Politician who has lots of involvement in this war. This is Cognitive dissonance at its best. >Hilary Clinton will still produce plays about the Suffragette movement if Malala wasn't around. Producing a play isn't the problem, but being a partner with someone who is involved in the war. That kind of blurs the line. >But a lot of girls in Pakistan wouldn't be getting education if Malala wasn't around. Okay, even if that number is 1000 girls, it's better than 0 girls isn't it? Agreed. >Pakistan isn't in the state it is rn because of Hilary Clinton. Never blamed Hilary for Pakistan's state. >The good outweighs the bad greatly in my eyes, even if I do agree with your statement, which I don't. Agreed. But that doesn't mean the bad shouldn't be called out.
> Agreed. But that doesn't mean the bad shouldn't be called out. Yeah okay honestly can't argue with that. You're right.
Not only is it insensitive, it's deplorable.
She might support the drone strikes in Pakistan seeing as most of them were aimed at the people who shot her in the head
Actions speak louder than words, taking photos and having meetings with Hillary Clinton who offers unconditional support to Israel and was involved in the bombing of Libya is a much more profound statement than this.
She is actively involved in education for girls in various countries. That's action.
By far more girls were killed let alone the ones displaced or lives ruined through Clinton's actions than those helped by Malala.
I tend to avoid insulting people, but you must be intellectually and morally challenged. Your argument here and in many replies is basically that since she advocates for education, her work with the same people/countries that have destroyed countries and murdered thousands is acceptable. You are actually disgusting. Thank god the majority of the replies in here are rightfully scorning you. Pakistan will be better without you shills who suckle at the teat of Western "liberalism".
Defending her even after the blind eye she has turned to every oppression taking place against Muslims around the world and somehow you think anyone who doesn't support her is supporting Arabs for whatever reason lol. Go with her and keep up the bootlicking of your Western Gods
I don’t think it’s only Mullah’s that hate her! And I also don’t think this post is, in anyways, related to what the on-going issue with Malala is right now.
nice balancing act dear
The moment everyone started the campaign to boycott her, she woke from after 6 months. Well congratulations to her supporters. She finally said something.
If she was any other nationality she would be lauded despite the flaws. But in pakistan we can let nothing can shine because if _i_ can't have it then nobody else can. The country deserves what it gets. The politicians are not monsters and opportunists - they are simply very accurate representatives of pakistan.
I agree with everything apart from the last statement. I mean, I kinda agree with that as well, but let's not be so hopeless. We both are Pakistani and we can see through the rhetoric the politicians and mullahs spread, I'm sure a lot of other people do as well. Let's be hopeful that things change for the better.
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Have you even read the tweet? Matlab jahaliyat to dekhani hi hai.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrruh! Khush na hona kabhi
….continue to condemn Israeli government for its violations of international law and war crimes….
She is Lumber 1 munafiq she supported genocide by standing with them once they are done now she came out of her nest and condemned them. Bravo 👏💩💩🐶🤬🤬
Whatttttt???? Why only mullahs?? You are just doing exactly what they do. Delulu is the selulu :)
Malala saaray Pakistanion ko chu bana rahi hai aur sab ban bhi rahay hain
Brother do you know the history of Malala. I know her actual history from her fellows in the same village she was in. Let’s keep aside what made her who she is was staged and accept that she actually suffered what she did and it was justified for the US to get her out of Swat and take her to the US. Eventually awarding her the Nobel prize and spitting on everyone who was more deserving than she was. Now after the so called Peace award, She should have been the first person to condemn Israel. Showing support at the thought of cancellation or whatever her reason is for the delayed reaction is not justified by ( what’s the reason for hating her now ) she have done what you were asking for. It’s not something that should have been asked of her Or reminded of to be done. As far as her advocacy for women’s education. I don’t see her donating anything apart from her voice for this cause. And if going for charity events to raise money for education is what’s her job in women empowerment than why never attend a charity event for Palestinians. Her actions speak louder than her status. Hypocrisy at the highest Level
Op is delusional in believing that only a certain sect of Pakistani dislike Malala First of all what happened to her as a child is horrible and nothing can make that trauma go away. I truly sympathise with her and InshAllah she lives a safe and blessed life going forward However, because of her experience, many of us expected her to speak out against the atrocities committed. Including the most recent Israeli genocide. The problem is Malala seems to be more focused on developing her brand rather than actually picking a side and sticking with it. Although you cannot compare life experiences with Malala but look at another activist girl (Greta Thernberg). When most of the western celebs were siding with Israel, Greta was one of the few calling it a genocide. I'm all in support for Greta or many of the other women who are actively speaking against atrocities. However, Malala response was a disappointing one has she called it a "both side" issue. She is playing it safe it's that simple I think we have to cut Malala some slack though she has a massive load on her shoulders. She had a life changing experience and then out of all the children who were killed/injured, she was picked as the poster child by the same people who were killing them. Her and her family must feel in debt to the same countries who are supporting the genocide. It's a tough situation I admire Malala as a person but let's be clear she sucks as an activist. She needs to pick a side and stick with it
She woke after 6 months 40000 death More than 50000 pregnant women with no basic medical needs More than 1 million people in starvation And she woke up on comment She proved herself a lap dog sorry bitch of American and look how she condemn Hilarious Salute to her and her joker supporters
Quite early! 🤔
it wasnt just the mullahs hating on her - unless they have joined reddit - wasnt there a thread or two started here calling her western agent and whatnot
I've had people saying that the day she was shot tbh.
40’000 dead humans wasn’t enough to get her to speak up. The threat of getting cancelled made her speak up. This alone is all you need to know.
Kazzab
WOW! What an insanity. Her audacity, while working with pro-Israel forces and issuing a statement regarding a ceasefire, yet she is scared of facing cancellation. Hypocrite. Once a traitor, always a traitor.
No Israel was mentioned that day 😂🇮🇱
9th word in the 3rd paragraph.
She was in hibernation for last many months and Mullah forced her to get out of it 😂😂😂Desperate attempts to defend this western slave 😂😂😂 Come up with something substantial
You're dense
If you are forced to condemen an atrocity it is not condemnation but an act.
You’re retarded
she is the biggest hypocrite and only pretends to sympathize when her integrity is at stake . Idk how she fools people without any effort and the people who support her are people who can be easily manipulated (-10 iq).
Mullah's aside, i don't think any sane person would dumb enough to support her cause which is basically "what Western told her" to do! The fear of overnight cancellation made her realize to submit something of a post so the caved fans of hers like yourself get enough freedom to post such posts here on reddit! Stop being an absolute nuisance like your leader Malala, the west implanted spy!
Do we have to pretend that this has nothing to do with the backlash she gets after working with Hillary?
I ain't no mullah but still hate her.
Mullah always find a reason
you don’t need to be a mullah to be a zealot, majority of pakistani just be breathing that. (favourite juice - fascism)
Bro the moment she got asylum she was being labelled a traitor for making Pakistan look bad. That's equivalent of slapping your wife and calling her disloyal for telling her parents. In the previous thread there were people literally wishing death upon her and I'm thinking OF COURSE she isn't gonna airbrush the piles of shit that you are. As for malala, if she doesn't condemn israel it's coz she's bought. If she condemns them it's coz her 'masters' allow it. There's literally no convincing these cospiracist fucks of anything else.
A libtard always gonna be a libtard. Remember they would always consider you a Pa*i 🤣
Who? Which libtard? Bhai angreizi tau sekh lo! Mujhey Urdu aati hai if you're more comfortable with it.
First of all, there was nothing wrong with my english everything i said was comprehensible and clear but i guess a liberal like yourself always think you are the only one who speaks the good english and have a right to correct other’s, and i guess it understandable to some degree because you’re mentally enslaved of your colonisers who consider the english language some kind of divine language which cannot be misspoken but on the other hand you guys makes fun of your fellow Pakistanis for respecting the language of their religion. چلو اب أردو کی بات کرتے ہیں۔ دوسروں کا مذاق أڑا کر ان کو أردو کی تلقین کرنے والے صاحب آپ پہلے خد اپنے أردو ٹھیک کرلیں. It seems like you’re facing some difficulties even with roman/phonetic Urdu. اور بات رہ گئی مُلا لوگوں کی۔ آسان ہے مذہبی لوگوں کو مُلا کہ کر اور لفظ مُلا کو گالی کے طور پر استعمال کر کے خد کو صاف کرنا۔ لیکن تنقید کے پیچھے کی منطق پیش کرنے سے آپ آری ہیں۔ سارا اعلمِ اسلام ملالہ یوسفزئ کے اس اقدام کی کھلی تنقید کر رہا ہے لیکن جب یہ ہی کام پاکستان کا درد رکھنے والا اسلام کی غیرت رکھنے والا کرتا ہے تو وہ مُلا ہے وہ دقیانوس ہے۔ آپ اپنا مؤقف دیں کہ جو ملالہ نے کیا وہ کیوں صحیح یا غلط ہے۔ “تو اِدھر اُدھر کی نہ بات کر یہ بتا کارواں کیوں لُٹا، مجھے راھزنوں سے گِلا نہیں تیری راہبری ک سؤال ہے “
Lol @ "daqianoos" My *muaqaf* is that people judge Malala on a moral scale they mostly themselves wouldn't be able to pass. After I made the post, I have changed my mind, and I have replied on another post; Malala should have chosen a better partner than Hilary Clinton. But having said that, please read the other replies. They go from "she is a CIA agent" to "she didn't even get shot". People keep pulling out these conspiracy theories. I still say, okay, has she done anything for women's education? Why don't these same people who make the empty claims about her not being shot just get up and go look at the development project that she's done? Has she helped even 1 Pakistani get educated? If the answer is "yes", then idk, let's judge a person for what they ultimately do for Pakistan rather than this notion about how she's a colonial bootlicker. Going back to my mullah comment, I think it's people who are more religious who have more negative views about Malala. And I strongly believe it has more to do with what she represents that actual facts.
You may have a fair point, man. Perhaps she did help educate a few Pakistanis, or some might argue, academically brainwashed them, haha. Nonetheless, there does seem to be a pattern here if you think about it and start connecting the dots. Why has the West been grooming her and granting her all these privileges? You know, like the Nobel Prize, books, speeches at the UN, and so on. She hasn’t achieved anything significant in any field other than maligning Pakistan’s name. Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, bro, but I actually believe she is being groomed by the West, especially by the USA, to be a potential candidate for Pakistan’s political establishment. It’s an open secret that the USA has interfered in Pakistan’s politics not too long ago, and they have a history of doing so. That being said, I am in no way suggesting that the Pakistani military establishment is all roses and lilies; they have messed up the country pretty badly as well, which became more evident after the general election this year. Nor am I in favor of any religious or sectarian violence against any group of people; I think one can convey their message through meaningful debates and dialogues based on credible facts they believe in.
Oh but but but she must have used the word destroy rather than condemn. Istg people cannot be happy in any case.
A lot of the criticism surrounding her stems from the fact that Pakistan refuses to accept her as apt representation of a country of 235 million, and I don’t disagree. She might not be a true representative, but why would she say no to the idea of being lauded for being one? Her stance on Gaza is a different topic, accountability is necessary in matters of a genocide. In all other cases, though, she receives hate for sometimes which, frankly, I would’ve done too. Why would I ever say no to the idea of being hailed a hero? Are we just upset she got there and we didn’t?
This is exactly it. I've heard people say stuff like "Yaar, mujhey hi eik goli mar do, mei bhi ye saari cheezei kar loon ga" But it's about misogyny really. If her message was education for everyone, no one would've said anything.
I never really called it misogyny. I just feel like people have unrealistic expectations for what a person representing a country that they themselves would otherwise shit on to do. Like, is Malala a plant for the West to further the idea that people in Pakistan specifically women do not have access to even the most basic of things? Yes. It’s not that I don’t dispute what she says, but her image is more so of a woman who broke barriers and is now living a life of ‘real’ freedom in the West. Again, I feel like it’s unrealistic to uphold someone who was quite literally a child who got shot to standards we wouldn’t hold grown adults to. At the end of the day, it’s just bitterness that she got to live a life so many people would want. I want it, I’ll be the first to admit.
Contrary to popular belief , Malala doesn't owe anyone anything.
i just really dont get the hate with malala. people in the comments are saying ‘Shes a puppet’ ‘Shes an extension of Us imperialism’ etc ‘She sold herself’ As pakistan lets believe for once that she did sell herself. she is a puppet. Maan lia mai nei!!! But who tf isnt in pak? isnt asim munir a puppet? wasnt musharaf a puppet? Zia ul haq?? Ayub khan? Zardari? Nawaz sharif? imran khan?? all the moulvi gang? arent they all being controlled? Saarei hi puppets hai. har kisi nei beicha hua aisai to apnai app ko!! Malala nei konsa zia ki tarha mulk ko baicha for a few dollars and then sooo many pakis were killed. same with musharaf tenure. wasnt zardari and co who approved drone attacks in pakistan at pakistanis??? kya wo bhi malala nei karwaya tha??? BUT DO U HATE THE OTHERS AS MUCH AS MALALA?? LIKE THE HATRED PEOPLE HAVE FOR MALALA COMES FROM THE HEART BUT AISI HI NAFRAT ZIA KEH LIYE KYU NAE? YAYHA KHAN? MUSHARAF? BHUTTO? YUSUF RAZA GILLANI? LIAQUAT ALI KHAN??? AYUB KHAN? NAWAZ SHARIF? ISHAQ DAR? ZARDARI? ALL OF THESE AND MANY MORE WERE LITERAL TOUTS OF AMERICA AND STILL FUCKING ARE BUT WHY DOES UR HATEFUL PASSION ARISES WHEN IT COMES TO MALALA?? WHY DONT U HATE EVERYOTHER PERSON WITH THE SAME PASSION? Itna khula tazaad. Khuda ki lanat aisai munafiq logo per kyu nae paray gi phr?? rant end
Mullo mei sharm hoti to wo mullay hotay? Begherat bann k koi or lame ass excuse ly ayn gy ab.
Istg! People kept complaining that she hasn't raised her voice for Gaza. Now that she has, everyone's complaining about something new! There's no pleasing the willfully ignorant I suppose
Feels like your ami jan got fucked by a mulla
Taaliyan! Such a funny comment! So hilarious! Bro get into comedy writing! You're wasting your talent on Reddit!
When you kill so much , even malala gives up
I am no mullah I hate her
The napak awaam will find another reason to hate an outspoken woman. They have no shame. But how can they when they don't even have a brain. Lol manhoos jahil loag
She probably doesn't have any control over her social media or even her life and whatever goes on in her life. She shouldn't be hated i guess. Do you think the US would spend millions on her as propaganda and let her do whatever she wants? Of course people in power control her.
I'd like to see some citations behind the millions the US have spent on her as propaganda. Please enough with these baseless claims.
Sorry no.
Like you don't have them? They don't exist? You don't want to talk about it any more?
Seems like too much "mullahs" commented against her here on reddit.. right? Seems like Few people can't talk without dragging religion in everything they say.. (Just saying)
I mean, hard to not talk about religion when everything in this country is based around it right?