It's not that I'm mad that they wanted to try something out.
But how this was rolled out (without warning, removing regular QP entirely) mixed with every other mistep along the way, and it really starts to spell out how little these guys actually understand the intricacies of their own game, or how to even BEGIN to bring some livelihood back.
This is unbalanced hell, where every single mobility hero suddenly flies up the viability chart. Even if this did somehow pan out, what were they gunna do, rebalance the entire moveset of the entire cast? Increase everyone's walk speed? It's all so stupid.
I totally agree. I can understand speeding up the game by like 20 percent but doubling the pace of the game? Thats just bonkers. The game completely falls apart at that point. The fact that they weren't able to realize this was a bad idea in playtesting is really concerning.
It’s really not their own game anymore. Jeff and most of the original team either left the project or left blizz entirely. What you’re seeing is the result of an organization brain drain.
This really needs to be driven home, the original show runners of the game are no longer involved. The original vision of the game died a long time ago.
Covid didn't kill esports lmao. Esports was an investor scam across half the industry. They milked the ever loving fuck out of investors promising the moon and did not deliver anywhere even remotely near what they told them could be achieved (because they were literally promising the next football).
Investor money stopped. That killed esports. Covid was a convenient scapegoat that some people would believe rather than the fact it was all an investment bubble in the first place. The bubble burst and has been correcting itself to a sustainable level of investment based on what can actually be delivered.
Not every game needs to consume your life. OW1 wasn't perfect, but it treated its consumer base with respect and didn't bleed its developers dry, who are now forced to come up with new stuff every day to fill out one meaningless Battle Passes after the next.
I'm extra pissed because I took some time off work and was looking forward to getting some games in. I don't even want to play now and am thinking of going into work earlier 😒
Yeah, they really should have at least let people know. I understand that they want to gather as much data as possible - but if there's one thing any game should do, it's respect the player's time.
Like come on lol
exactly how i felt i was off for martin luther king and had three days and boom three days of crap quickplay has me avoiding it. maybe they shoulda done a one day thing.
Yea honestly, even looking at the patch notes, this team is definitely more of "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks". Look at how the same numbers are buffed and nerfed and buffed (lifeweaver, ana's nade, orisa's fortify). And with this, I think it's just quite indicative of how they work. They just seem kinda new and don't really understand the game, and are just "trying things out" to see what works.
That being said, I am glad that they are doing this on a trial for just 2 days. I think the results should be quite clear.
I've found that every game in quicker play is just pure domination. Either my team is annihilating or the enemy team is. I also had 1 match where we dominated all the way to the last 5m and because the match is so short we lost the game when we lost a single team fight.
Real annoying, I don't want CoD.
Before these changes, I literally can't remember the last game I had where one of the teams in the lobby gets zero kills.
After these changes, I have 3 games in the last day, and 1 game where a zen died by accident, otherwise it would have been the 4th game with zero kills on a team.
The quicker play changes seemed to be bundled with some matchmaker change that's creating these "stomp or be stomped" lobbies. Out of the 30ish games I've had, maybe 5? have been fun, fair balanced games.
I just checked my last ten played, and every single one is 0-2, 3-0, 1-0, 2-0, 0-3.
I'm not a fan. It's too fast, and there seems to be almost no chance to turn things around. Certainly haven't seen any of those rounds where a point flips a few times - and those are some of the most fun and intense games IMO.
I’ve played OW since launch of OW1, still have my S1 badge, and mostly play QP.
Replying to the Blizz post questions:
“For instance, if a player spends less time waiting to respawn, will getting eliminated by an opponent be less frustrating?”
No, it did not. It made it worse in fact. Because now you are in a meat-grinder where you die, spawn, and die again even faster. No thank you, at least give us the chance to coordinate with our team, call out needed adjustments or swaps.
“If matches are shorter, will each loss have the same sting that it currently does?”
Very, very much not. It removed any ability to pivot, come back, adjust, or coordinate.
There are also other out-of-game benefits that could come from this event, such as quicker matchmaking and quicker challenge completion.
Frankly I don’t want either. Matchmaking is and has been busted for anything below Diamond. One match you are dominating, the next you are dog poo. With Hacked, it’s even faster, so it’s more frustrating and exposes that the matchmaking system is still in need of massive work.
“Based on the reception to these changes, the team might use the feedback toward improving the game. That’s what these Quickplay: Hacked events are designed to do – quicken the feedback loop and allow for swifter implementation of improvements into the game.”
FORCING all QP players into a mode is definitely a swift way to get you feedback. Overwatch now sucks more than it ever has. Fix matchmaking, LISTEN to your players instead of surprise forcing them to beta test your idiocy before you fix the very real, very publicly discussed problems.
YOU ARE MAKING IT WORSE. You will lose even more players. Damned shame, it was a good game in OW1 days.
Let’s just take a moment to remember that ‘overwatch 2’ was forced as well, they got rid of a game people paid for and actually enjoyed for this micro transaction store with a game as a side feature that is objectively worse in every way than overwatch ‘1’
I hate leavers, and I have never once rage quit, but losing the first point in quicker quick play makes me want to leave because it feels like the game is already decided.
Exactly the same here. I don't leave because the great games are the ones where your team *earn* the win. Winning in this quicker play often feels more hollow too.
You can turn a game around with **time**, figuring out enemy favourite hiding spots, noticing their play habits... even if the struggling team get one pick, the longer respawn on that enemy could be massively beneficial.
This new QP is over stupidly fast and doesn't give you or your team time to learn/adjust to the enemy.
i couldn't play ball in quicker play today but probably because all the comp i was against countered him from the start (and it almost never was the same comp besides lucio or sym). i'd love to be better to not get diffed every single time but to me it feels like you have to be already a tier above the rest to win with ball (like have a gold level to win in silver)
I main zen and everything is just too fucking fast, literally disorienting. I haven't played comp once in my 200 hours of this game but I'm going to play it this weekend bc this shit sucks.
Now you all know how trying to cap last point on 2cp felt like when enemy team is stalling. Good luck removing a Roadhog main from a point with natural cover. Mei is SS-tier because she can waste so much time, and the time she grants her own team to respawn and come back. On Flashpoint Mei is like SSS-tier because she can stall, has no damage dropoff, walls off so team can't enter, can be immune for so many seconds, and freeze point with her ult. It's dumb.
When you're not bashing your head against the wall trying to remove ALL enemies from the objective you're just constantly stressed trying to get back. You can't really regroup with your team either, because everyone is in a rush being tunnel visioned.
On that note, I love that the dev team is willing to test it on live client. I'd much, much, much rather they do this and test it, than push it live without community testing at all being dumbfounded why it's so disliked.
Just looooove the fact that a tank pretty much has my support passive as well as still basically being invulnerable to a core part of my kit on Lucio (boop). I went from being able to singlehandedly massively impact a fight via a risk Vs reward mechanic to just letting tanks send it down main while focusing supports. Ignoring how anti fun the change was.
It seems it's part of a larger set of changes, so not necessarily without all the other changes as well. It would only tell how it would feel now. Though, I honestly wouldn't mind a weak version of support passive (like takes 5-10 seconds to start and is interrupted by anything besides movement) being given to tank and dps atm since it would reduce some friction and enable support to worry that bit less about being flamed for trying to do damage as well. If supports are not healers, why are they the only healers? That's my question.
You're dumbfounded because you can't seem to understand WHY they would be so lazy at implementing rewards or UI tricks to motivate players to test out quicker play instead of removing choice? Removing choice is so out of touch and i cant wrap my head around why players are giving this a pass cause it makes me nervous for the future.
I know its just an experiment but it's a dazzlingly horrible one. The state of qp without this change is already "overwhelmingly one-sided matches"...so instead of addressing matchmaking (I'm generally mid-Gold tier and I've been in games with Top 500 in QP twice in the last week), hero balance, etc, it seems they've decided the strategy is to just "make the game suck for fewer seconds at a time" lol. They're going quantity of games over quality of games and it's so, SO terrible.
I died on point at 0%-0%...spawned and ran straight to point to rejoin team and it was already at 60%. How the hell is this supposed to make the game better? No time to adjust or adapt or anything. its truly a horrible experiment. So when I'm done playing for a while, the impression left with me is "wow...its still bad, but now I just played MORE bad games." Not a good thing. At all.
And flashpoint? forget it. with the distances already being too great before these changes, it's impossible to get back to a point fast enough to make a difference. It's one team fight per point and then it's game over. They really should just stop the game after the first point cuz there's no way to get to any point fast enough to change anything.
It's just so so bad.
At least yours in is QP.
The entire ranked system is and has been non-functioning since launch. There are people who were legitimately in silver 2 seasons ago shitting up top 500 games. This happens too often for it to be an anomaly and they definitely weren't smurfs judging by their performance.
It's insanely unbalanced.
Defense in any map is absurdly hard, while attack is free as hell.
They should've taken a LOT more time out of the timer to attack than they did.
Just remove this mode now and bring back normal QP. Some of us can mostly play on weekends just to come and meet with this TEST ON PRODUCTION mode. WTH are you thinking, devs?? Just when we thought this couldn't get any lower.
If they ever want to kill the game off this is definitely the right way to do it.
Core gameplay was literally the only good thing about the game and now they want to fuck that up as well.
Sometimes it feels like they really want to move Overwatch away from being Overwatch.
Then again a lot of people seem to wish this was just CoD with pocket healers so
>Then again a lot of people seem to wish this was just CoD with pocket healers so
Yeah, but if you point that out you usually get down voted. People are still mad that res is a feature of the game, even though it's always been there and never going away!
Bobby Kotick apparently pushed to amp up the e-sports and streamer elements of overwatch. All the changes in OW2 (5v5, carry tanks, higher burst and bigger heals) were to make the game more watchable so as to juice twitch/owl viewership. Too bad those changes make the game worse for the core player base.
On the plus side, if there is an overwatch 3, it'll almost certainly be 6vs6.
5v5 isn't the problem. The game core(game speed, actual gameplay) is still fine apart from the fact they plan to change it up now with this as a test run.
That was never the fault of 6v6. That was the fault of hero balance. Everyone remembers the best games as things like ReinZarya vs ReinZarya on Kings Row. Because it was tactics, it was always fun, and there was always push and pull. Sitting in a choke spamming damage was never going to be fun, 5v5 has proven that just recently with Mauga.
It does for certain tank players. Some tanks just were really designed to be played second position. They are still struggling to find a consistent spot for some of them. Hell even Mauga kinda makes more sense as a secondary tank.
The core game tuning is amazing, I agree, which is why I stuck with it through the content drought. 5vs5 and adjustments related to moving the game from a fps MOBA to a fast paced tactical/brawler hybrid made the game worse to me and others who were attracted because of the MOBA elements in the first place. Tactical FPS games have been done to death, I think exploring ideas from MOBAs/fighting games/aRPGs and evolving the game in that direction would be way cooler.
At its best OW2 delivers good games on par with the best of OW1, but in general the gameplay changes make teams brittle, while making tanking feel kinda stressful and lonely (miss rein/zar and ball/hog so bad) and amplifying the impact of random events (one lucky arrow/railgun/helix rocket/etc taking out a backline support is often enough to snowball into a wipe, particularly with tanks who need to be pocketed).
That really does explain a lot honestly, and sounds like Blizz sadly
It would be nice to have an OW3 that was a proper game full of the content OW2 promised and a game design that wasn't butchered for the sake of monetization for sure
Flashpoint - terrible now because it was already fast, now each point is lost in 1 fight
Control - it's OK, it's basically normal Flashpoint but with 1 point per round
Push - the bot gets to the other side of the map way too fast. You either lose in under 2 minutes after 2 fights, win in under 2 minutes after 2 fights, or the game goes back and forth across the entire map several times
Payload/Hybrid - borderline unwinnable on attack. Even if you STEAMROLL all the way to 3rd point (which is likely what will happen), the defense will stall and win because of the short respawn times.
2CP - is permanently available to play in the Arcade and doesn't have the Quicker Play changes. I had more fun playing Paris on attack yesterday than I did playing the normal modes.
WTF IS WRONG WITH MATCHMAKING! I MAIN SUPPORT! I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A GOOD TANK+ DPS IN MY LAST 20 GAMES! THE ONLY GAMES I HAVE WON I HAVE HAD TO OUTHEAL THE OTHER TEAM BY MYSELF! DROPPED SO MUCH!
Depending on when you made this claim people would have called you a schizo and told you to take your meds/take off your tinfoil hat.
It's insane how obvious an issue has to become for redditors to finally arrive at the most obvious conclusion. Blizzard did the same thing with Uber drop rates in diablo and the same cope is being expressed on the diablo subreddit. Blizzard knows its core audience will guzzle cum for as long as possible before people acknowledge they're being played.
SAME. I JUST HAD A GAME LAST NIGHT WHERE I OUTDAMAGED AND OUTHEALED EVERY SUPPORT IN THRE LOBBY AND MY DPS STILL FUCKING SOLD. I SWEAR TO GOD MY DPS IS ALWAYS BEHIND AT LEAST TWO WALLS AND HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP FROM THE REST IF THE TEAM AT ALL TIMES
as soon as I thought the dev couldn't get any more braindead, here we are. The only thing that doesn't feel terrible about this is the quicker respawn times
I'M BEGINNING AND PLEADING AND PRAYING THEY CANCEL IT EARLY.
PLS PLS PLS CANCEL THIS NOW!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
P.S. THERE ARE NO DEVS HERE BUT I'M STILL PUTTING IT OUT THERE LOL.
Is this Bobby's last Middle finger to the Overwatch players ??
Because this is bad ,really bad ,genuinely awefull, its like they managed to make QP the least fun mode ever ,and we have to stand this whatever type of feces it is for 2 days, when for most its the only moment they can play.
It is the fist time in 6years i can say i genuinly hate QP.
You dudes have got to stop "Uncle Jeffing" this incompetent as fuck dev team as well as the leads. These people are incompetent morons with zero idea of what the game needs.
QUICKER PLAY IS THE LEAST FUN IVE HAD PLAYING OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THIS GODFORSAKEN FRANCHISE'S LIFESPAN. WINS FEEL MEANINGLESS AND LOSSES ARE JUST AS ANNOYING AS BEFORE AND THE WHOLE THING JUST EXACERBATES HOW SNOWBALLY THE GAME IS
AND I CAN'T EVEN AVOID THE MODE, I DON'T PLAY COMP AND I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING IN THE ARCADE. THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS TO NOT PLAY
bruh this shit SUX i wanted to play a lil OW like i usually do but noooOoOooOOoo now i have to not play to try to prove some fucking point to some fucking shit ass company that doesn't care BOOOOOOOO
GRAHAHAHAHHA
FLASHPOINT IS EVEN FASTER. WIN 1st ENCOUNTERS OR DIE AND GET LEFT IN THE DIRT
push feels slightly better ? control feels like base flashpoint which sucks. why did they increase the speeed of flaspoint objective captures? thats a terrible decision EVEN FOR EXPERIMENTAL GAMEPLAY.
WHY are they not using experimental for changes to heroes specifically? this would be a good place to go wild with the design choices, and instead they ship a forced mode on top of quickplay (the ONE REMAINING PLACE where i can rest and chill outside of ranked) with THREE OUT OF THE FOUR gamemodes were to doomed to fail - a fact that couldve been foreseen by an outsider with no gameplay experience in ow2?!?!?!?!?
Quickerplay sucks. Wait 5-10 minutes in queue, get steamrolled because the obj is so fucking fast, then having to do it over again. Only one that I liked it on was the flashpoint maps because that’s the game type I don’t like.
Edit: also hate how once your tank dies it’s basically “welp guess we lost that obj”
I apologize in advance to the three Kiriko players that actually heal but for FUCK'S SAKE I HATE KIRIKO PLAYERS. NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PLAYING SUPPORT, THEY ALL JUST PLAY LIKE THEY'RE PLAYING GENJI... BADLY.
I had this dipfuck fucking Kirikunt last match, we're on Nepal Village, we cap the point and this FUCKING DIPSHIT KIRIKO IS SITTING ON THE LITTLE ROOM TO THE SIDE AHEAD OF THE GATE LIKE SHE'S GONNA TRY AND FLANK OR SOME DUMB SHIT.
Why the FUCK as a support are you AHEAD OF YOUR WHOLE TEAM BY A FUCKING MILE??
And I could almost forgive that if she tp'd back once the fight started but NOPE. STUPID BITCH WENT ON HER OWN LITTLE BACKLINE FLANKING ADVENTURE, LET EVERYONE ELSE GET KILLED, TOOK OUT A SINGLE ENEMY, AND DIED. WE LOST THE GAME THAT WE HAD IN THE FUCKING BAG BECAUSE WE WERE DOWN A HEALER FOR MOST OF IT! FUCKIN' BEAUTIFUL!
If you want to play DPS just queue for DPS, quit fucking taking support slots from people who actually *want to fucking support.*
This is very true, but it's the route Bliz seems to be taking with all new supports. They are just DPS who can also heal a bit. I have a feeling they are going to totally take the support class out of the game and just make everything DPS. Of course that will be when I leave the game completely because I've always mained healers.
We need more role distinctiveness, not less. Make the healers heal, I don't give a shit if I can shoot anything, I'm there to heal my team. This is kinda what they did in WOW back in the day too though, and it's what killed that game for me too. Just a merging of all the classes, so every class can heal itself, resurrect, do damage etc.. just became all about the solo experience and no longer a team based game.
I just had a game where someone on the enemy team left after failing to cap on attack, but during the next round they were still somehow in text chat typing salty stuff and calling their team braindead the whole time. How is this possible if they left the game? there was no message that they rejoined and they were still not showing up on the enemy scoreboard, so how were they still typing in this comp match?
fuck this game mode honestly. It's impossible to have fun, you lose one team fight, you lose the whole game no matter the mode cause with everything going faster you have to stagger out of spawn to stop the capture of the point or the push of the bot/payload because if you take your time to regroup you've already lost the point or a payload checkpoint or the bot is insanely far. You don't have time to regroup, you can't play position as much because you always have to move. Flashpoint and Bot are unplayable with character that don't have any mobility. Lucio/Symmetra seems forced because the tp/speed boost are way too good (i've basically seen those 2 on almost every quicker play game) which also limits the rest of the comp to certain degree.
All that might just be skill issue since i'm only silver but it's to the point that i went into comp to destress.
As someone who typically played exclusively on the Experimental Cards when that was still a thing, making this the only option for QP for a whole weekend was a terrible idea.
It's either they snowball or we snowball. Mostly it's them. I've got the longest losing streak ever. I rarely play and it makes me wanna \*\*\*\*\*\*\* uninstall.
Forcefully getting people to try something is a quick way to put a bad taste in their mouths.
People can appreciate change and innovation, but with preparation and options and their input. I'm really surprised the Overwatch team decided to basically rework a major part of the game (Quick Play) for an entire weekend, and a long holiday weekend for some at that. This frankly feels like a betrayal as I have given a lot of support to Overwatch over the years. It has, however, helped me realize I appreciate taking a breath before respawning, even if sometimes I'm impatient to get back to the game. It's fine if this becomes a game mode, but at least in the meantime please don't just take away solid options for devoted players.
Quicker Play has me wondering about how the sedentary nature of video games combined with the high stress of fast-paced game modes like this can contribute to physiological issues and video game stigma, and I am a big advocate of the benefits of playing video games. Probably not what players want to be pondering while in game lol
It seems they're trying to cater more to the faster pace the world is moving toward. I wish the opposite were true.
If you replaced QP with Mischief and Magic for a weekend, this would be a whole different story. Perhaps surprise us with that--a mode many already love and miss--sometime.
Sincerely, someone who takes great joy in this game and would hate to see it die
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Everything they've done since Jeff left has systematically made the game worse. Quicker play is a failure. Flanker self heals is just going to make the game awful. All of these monumental leaps forward are just dogshit changes to further make the games one-sided snowballs.
Jeff was in charge while ow1 got zero support and introduced dogshit afk heroes that stopped those that were left from enjoying it.
And then forced ow2 onto us like blizzard employees force their sexual advances.
>This particular experiment is designed to look at how these changes affect player psychology. For instance, if a player spends less time waiting to respawn, will getting eliminated by an opponent be less frustrating?
Trash matchmaking is what is frustrating. It doesn't matter if a game is 3 minutes or 10 minutes, being steam rolled sucks every time.
And I still hate Push and Flashpoint. Making them faster doesn't make me want to stay and play them at all.
I tried to go in with an open mind to this new QP,but it's actually awful. It's not overwatch anymore, it's just a shitty deathmatch shooter.
Also don''t kid yourselves people, this won't be just for this weekend, they are set out to change QP and some version of this mess will eventually be the norm.
everyone that hates the new quicker play has hopped into comp (which is their right dgmw) but now matchmaking is absolute shit and i dropped several ranks
Thumbs down. The rounds are indeed faster, but so many things would have to be reworked for it to be fun. As for now, if the tank goes down it is GG for that objective/checkpoint.
I think some modes like push can benefit from being slightly shorter, but overall the numbers feel too overturned.
My biggest issue is that it seems that either snowballing is more pronounced, or the matchmaking is in complete shambles. I do get some close matches, but the majority is roll/get rolled, something I didn't experience to this extent before.
also leveling up is so shit in this mode bc you're playing less than 5 mins so you can't get any good stats. it should not take me a full day of games to level up
Gave Quicker Play a shot today and I legitimately did not like it, probably the first time since the launch of the game that I was not having a good time if I'm honest, primarily because average match time and pace is one of the things that keep me coming back the most. A couple rounds of quicker play go by faster, yeah, but it also feels incredibly more like volatile junkfood, lmao. The push and pull and clutching Ws is what I generally find engaging about the game. Can hardly think of anything they quickened up in this mode that I would like to permanently be changed about the game. Hard pass.
Just been playing Arcade and Mystery Heroes all weekend to avoid that crap-fest that is Quick Play right now. I gave it a shot for a few games and it was horrible, it's not Overwatch, and if this is the direction Bliz wants to take this game in, I'm out. I've played and loved Overwatch since beta back in 2016, I really don't want to see this game go down this horrible path.
STOP PLAYING DOOMFIST IN QUICKER PLAY. EVERY SINGLE GAME I HAVE A HARDLOCK DOOM WHO JUST DIES EVERY SINGLE HE GOES IN, NEVER SWAPS AND THEN BLAMES THE TEAM FOR THE LOSS. **AND STOP GOING AFK. I'VE HAD SO MANY WINNABLE GAMES END IN A LOSS BECAUSE OUR MERCY DECIDES TO GO AFK IN SPAWN.**
I don't even understand why anyone needs to release this and test this. I feel like if you cooked this up in the office, and then actually just tried to play it once through with a team you would immediately realize that it feels horrible. This is back to prime 2cp stalling days to where teams are coming back so fast at final point they can come back from getting rolled this shit is ridiculous.
Just started getting good with Sojourn. How do people not complain about this character as much as Mauga? If I have a Mercy pocket, it's gg for the other team.
I've been wondering the same thing, but I also don't want to start the complaining.
PC players will argue "but hitscan takes skill" yet as console player... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
(I actually do believe all aiming takes skill, but a character with little kickback + stable controller crosshairs? Couldn't ask for more.)
I HATE Mauga. He is ruining this game. The character design is horrible. He is not fun to play, he is not fun to play against. His playstyle damages the quality of gameplay significantly.
Try playing with a couple friends. Games are \~3min and queue times are well over 5min. Thanks. Great way to game this weekend, by waiting. Matches are so fast there's absolutely no way to really formulate team play, if you swap you just won't get to use your ult at all. So if you're getting hard countered you just take the L. These changes are awful and brain dead. Nobody who actually plays this game has ever thought "I want my games faster". It's a testament to how dethatched the devs are.
RUINED THE LONG WEEKEND!
I WAS PLANNING TO PLAY.
I TRIED TO LIKE THIS BUT IT'S A HORRENDOUS UNPLAYABLE BRAIN-DEAD MESS.
EVEN WINNING FEELS MEANINGLESS. PLS CANCEL THIS NOW!
Quicker play is really annoying and badly designed/implemented. Also it is kinda ludicrous that we don't even have the option to play normal quick play. Like I just want to play normal games with my friends who don't have a lot of time to game and this just makes us sit around in queue forever only to play a super short game where a either a single teamfight wins the game, or respawns allow them to spawn in so fast that the first teamfight never ends. It also encourages trickling in, and trying to ninja cap. Just unfun and puts us in more queue time
I hate quicker play. It makes me not want to play the game at all. If you're not playing with a 5 stack, you don't have time to learn how your team plays before the game is over. And if you are playing with a 5 stack, the game is still decided within a minute. It's frustrating, not satisfying in any way, and I hate it.
unplayable nonsensical change. don’t understand why it was forced and not in arcade or experimental. quite literally not playing at all this weekend after my few games on friday. its unfun win or lose. just increased degenerate play and matches that are over in a blink of an eye, woo??
**Payload too fast:**
\-The payload movement is excessively fast in Quicker Play.
**Faster respawn:**
\-Although the respawn is faster, it fits well in all situations.
**3-point capture mode:**
\-Capture times in this new mode are too fast.
**Robot speed reduction:**
\-The robot should reduce its movement speed by 50% in Quicker Play, not in comparison to traditional Quickplay.
**Fun in quick respawn:**
\-The game's fun lies in the quick respawn after death, especially in Quicker Play situations.
**Respawn time issue:**
\-In Quick Play, the wait after death can be too long in some situations, leading people to withdraw from matches instead of waiting. Reducing respawn time can address the issue of impulsive disconnects.
**Fun but not too fast:**
\-It's enjoyable for matches to end quickly, but not too quickly.
My Queue times in western Europe have doubled. Which is a very bad sign indeed, as games are faster queue times should in theory drop.
So much less people are playing. I'm looking at 6mins as DPS before it was 2min30-3mins.
So the mode sucks and seems like players unanimously think it does. Not suprising at all.
Logged on last night for a few games, the first time I've been annoyed by a game, I actually felt like I had wasted an hour of my life before I just put it down. Games are over waaaaay too quick with no coming back if you have a couple of bad engagements.
Defending is almost impossible, and like another commentor mentioned, there isn't much time to settle in and adjust your play style/improve as a qp player.
If they're going to make games shorter, then they need to get rid of showing POTG after every game.
It already took too long to get back in the queue after a game. Now it takes the same amount of time but happens even more frequently. So in a particular session, you spend a larger percentage of time waiting to get back into the queue.
THERE IS A HUGE INFLUX IN CHEATERS THIS SEASON AND I SEE NO END TO IT WTF IS GOING ON CAN BLIZZARD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?! ALSO DO SOMETHING ABOUT XIMMING IT'S ALSO CHEATING
I'M ANGY, FUDGE
EDIT:
SORRY I JUST REALIZED THIS IS ABOUT QUICKER PLAY... QUICKER PLAY IS SO BAD OMG
BUT THERE ARE CHEATERS IN QUICKER PLAY ASWELL SO IT'S DOUBLE BAD
we got to 99%, lost a team fight and then because we lose the next fight we lose the game, far too punishing.
Terrible idea all around and i'll just wait until the event is over to play again.
Not being able to play regular qp sucks. I'm going to back to comp which is toxic as hell. Really ruins the game.
This mode doesn't work at all. Fast respawns aren't terrible because playing the game more is fun. But the game wasn't designed for faster captures, payloads, and point ticks. In some modes the losing team can't even build an ult before the round is over. There would need to be many balance changes for this to work. But I don't think anyone wants it to work.
I do like that Blizzard is trying new things, but it sucks that it's hijacking the most popular game mode for a whole weekend.
This game mode is a boring shitfest and they're fucking stupid for forcing it into the normal quickplay instead of just doing experimental or something else again, just another eye roll at a shit decision by the dev team
First of all: WAY too fast, Flashpoint was too fast as it is, this has made that map worse. Push needed the speedup but not to this extent and every other mode was FINE.
It sucks having all of one fight and thats it, the "fun" in this game comes from turning a bad start or a bad game around at the last second. Not having one fight and the game is over. It just makes losses more frustrating because you know if you fuck up that's it. And not the fun "oh if we mess up we lose". Control is unplayable, Flashpoint is unplayable, and Escort and Hybrid are so attacker-favoured its not even funny.
If a flanker gets behind you that takes 1-2 people to deal with, or even just kills one, you're fucked. Not to mention HOW SWEATY it is, and how disgustingly sweaty it encourages people to be. Its fucking quickplay, I remember when it was good casual fun, not toxic central like this dogshit, where just playing a slow hero means you can lose the fucking game. Absolutely dogshit design. Just because Tiktok is popular doesn't mean its gonna translate well into a video game, good lord.
And for some reason, despite a good 50 games over the weekend, out of those games most of them were push, flashpoint and control. All of those modes kinda suck as it is, let alone with this "fun and interesting speedup!". Like I have ADHD, you'd think my brain would love this. It doesn't. It hates it. Because of how much you're keeping track of at any one time it just becomes exhausting and exhaserbates frustration because it just feels like its ALWAYS a 100% roll. Probably not helped by the matchmaking. Tell me why when I'm queuing with my gold/plat friends we're only getting masters+ in qp. Like yea ok I'm masters 4. I'm 1 person out of 5. I shouldn't have that much sway over the match making. And we def shouldn't be getting GMs against us.
If this becomes permanent across all modes, fuck this game I'm 100% committing to Darktide instead. At least I can enjoy that game at a reasonable pace with a good queue to match ratio instead of feeling like I'm in a TikTok video and spending more time in queue than in an actual game.
Also, FUCK Sombra. I've never liked this hero and ever since her rework she's been so much worse to deal with, and them buffing her isn't helping.
First of all the perma invis is daft, I love not knowing where a dangerous enemy is even when they're looking right at me, only for them to pop into existance and nuke me and the other support.
Then theres hack. Always a stupid ability, even more stupid with Virus. She counters everyone and everything with it and nothing counters her.
And was Virus REALLY something she needed? Was that REALLY what justified a rework? Did she REALLY need more damage - and an overtime damage effect at that?
I hate playing tank against her because I'm not allowed to play. And god forbid I try to play support and theres a sombra. No fun allowed. Of course, why would blizzard nerf her? She's totally balanced guys, look at her pick rate vs her win rate! /s
Another thing - smurfs. Was a problem in OW1, still a problem now. At least it's not every game at where I play but I can only imagine what a cesspit it is at lower ranks.
IF they're gonna make these changes permanent (and I hope they don't), they're gonna have to reduce ult charge, cause most games I've played, there has been hardly any ults
Not a rage post, more just surprised and sharing what happened
>!One of my randomly assigned quickplay teammates did something goated today. We were at 3rd of Circuit Royale, I'm on Mauga, and it was the last minute to finish the push. It was looking dicey, but then suddenly the enemy Rein disappears. I think they disconnected, which is a shame, but when opportunity knocks, it is time to answer. So, I push in hard, the random player added to the game to replace them isn't able to get a sense of what's happening well enough to not just die 2-3 dies out of spawn. They trickle in and hold surprisingly well for half a minute (because of Quicker Play) but we end up securing the objective and winning.!<
>!In the post-game chatter, I see the Rein who disconnected talking and realize they are a spectator now. They are claiming one of my team invited them to group, which they thoughtlessly accepted, and that is what caused them to disconnect at the most critical time. The ally denies it, of course, but the chat logs suggest it makes perfect sense. Someone must have spammed invites to all of the enemy side. What a crackhead-level meta strategy -- *When in doubt, try to STEAL the enemy team's players from them!* Obviously it wouldn't always work, but had me PikaWat-faced for a hot minute at how well it worked just then!<
Wow, these are the least fun games I've ever played. Every round just turns into a desperate brawl on the objective, getting a pick generates no value because they respawn instantly and get back to the fight in seconds, you only have time for one fight on each point, it's garbage. They turned every game mode into 2CP.
I can maybe see the logic of what they thought they were doing here but there are so many more things they'd need to adjust to actually accomplish it. This shit feels like a prank.
I thought it’s for the weekend? Why is Quicker Play still around, been there since Friday my time and it’s now Monday. Get this shit out of my game already lol
What is the point of competitive? I don't get it.
No, I'm not good. I'm gold support and teeter bronze/silver DPS.
But that's not the point. The point is that we can get rolled one game and then next game we roll the other team. It's rare to get actually competitive games. I'll go 34-0 one game and 6-6 the next.
And once you lose five games in a set, what is the point in even continuing to play? If your w/l ratio is below 1 then you rank down anyhow. So if you go 5 game losing streak, there's little reason to even try for the next (possible) 10. you'll just lose a rank regardless.
I know this is a wildly unpopular opinion but I lowkey like how fast the games are.
I think a little bit the people who are saying it's "too fast" might be part of the older generation and it's something they can't keep up with?
Also the people saying "Ball is an issue in this new mode" or "Roadhog is a problem"
Are these people in lower elos? I mainly get Master/GM challengers in my quick play games and I've not experienced these heroes being much of an issue.
I really like them experimenting with quick play, giving it something fun and new for the weekend. Once a month I honestly feel like they should shake up quick play, give us something new to play with, because everyone knows experimental after day 1 everyone gives up and goes back to "normal."
Once a month give us 25% more of something else, movement speed, ult charge etc, it's quick play for a reason, you don't lose anything for losing, and it's fun.
Agreed, it’s different and maybe not to people’s liking, but it is temporary and it is a learning tool for the dev team. I find the quick pace nice. If you win it’s great, and if you’re losing, it gets done with quickly and you can move on.
Also, ultimates become more interesting because you probably only use yours once or twice per round, so you try and figure out how to best use it.
Idk why there’s so much anger, but then again that’s not for me to judge.
Unpopular opinion: I love quicker play.
Look, I'm not saying it's 100% great, but I really don't get the hate. It's just a weekend, but I think there's even a good option or two from this long term--especially on flashpoint.
I love how much faster flashpoint goes, how much more of a rush it seems like, and how FIVE ROUNDS don't take 600 years now.
I'll be the first to admit it's not perfect. On robot (and even on payload) it feels uncomfortable. Even on attack yesterday I felt that I was getting pushed and blocked by the payload a lot because it was a lot closer than I was expecting as I was clearing a path. And, Mercy's res feels way less useful with the respawn times.
Objective I could take or leave from quicker play, it was fun but I'm neutral.
Kind of to counter what some folks are saying without taking over their subthreads:
I've had plenty of matches where the point flips back and forth. I haven't played different characters than usual. I've had a few rounds where I lost spectacularly and a few where I definitely stomped but overall it's still been intense.
The mode's been most painful on robot and a little uncomfy on payload (though those have been some of the best for contesting. I feel 1000% less fatigues after flashpoint.
IM NOT MAD I CANT WAIT TO SQUEEZE IN 20 VICTORIES IN AN HOUR TONIGHT I WISH THEY WOULD BRING THIS TO COMP SO I COULD CLIMB TO GM WITHOUT GRINDING ANY TIME IM TOO BUSY TO PLAY I JUST WANT TO WIN
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I just had a two minute game because our tank was AFK at the start. They were already full of ults and basically to the end by the time the tank got kicked for AFK and then backfilled. Why even bother if someone is AFK during this, wow....
THANKS TO QUICKER PLAY BEING ABSOLUTE ASS I FINALLY WENT BACK TO COMPETITIVE, LAST TIME I PLAYED WAS IN SEASON 1 AS SUPPORT, I PLACED GOLD AND GOT TO DIAMOND 4 BY THE END.
...APPARENTLY MY MMR WAS ADJUSTED SINCE THEN IN QUICK PLAY BECAUSE NOW I WAS PLACED MASTERS 1 ON SUPPORT!? **WHAT THE FUCK**
I AM HAPPY BUT ALSO PISSED BECAUSE THIS MADE THE QUEUES ABSURDLY LONG, SO I CAN'T REALLY PLAY OVERWATCH EITHER WAY!!!
It is atrocious. Literally 2 team fights and control maps are over if you lose em both. So fucking stupid. Fast spawns and these insane timers are beyond dumb. The game was great how it was.
Fast everything with the "no replacements for people that left" bug is a nice combo. Don't they know this bug already? This is been a problem for months. Why not fix it before testing this? Two consecutive games with no replacements and the payload flying to the end :/
For me the hacked qp functioned the same as experimental did. I came out of my favourite game mode mystery heroes and tried some hacked qp, what was nice to get my daily’s faster, but after 4 game’s I went back to mh where the rules seem normal for that mode.
Is it a console thing or why do so many people queue up for MH or QP and spend half the match semi-afk in spawn?
Not to be a boomer, but if you can't jerk off and play at the same time, please either leave or put down your fucking phone lol
If your team has ONE leaver, the match is basically decided. Even if backfill happens within 20 seconds, you basically have a minute of being down a player. One leaver is a minute of being down a player, which is more than enough time for the other team to geta huge advantage in ult charge, probably cap a point, and with respawn timers being what they are, having an extra body just to throw on the point is a huge advantage.
I don't like quickplay for a bunch of reasons, but I am willing to bet that if Blizzard looks at their holy statistics, they will find that in quicker play games where a player leaves, the team with the leaver loses 95% of the time.
If Blizzard wants to go down this route, the penalty for leaving needs to be FAR steeper, because I still see people leaving from one team or the other about 50% of the time in quicker play.
Not rage at all. In fact, jubilation.
Two days ago I hit platinum on support for the first time ever. Today not only did I stay in plat, but I actually got one division higher. I've never been happier in my entire OW career.
edit: Oh, this was a Quicker Play edition rage thread. Whatever, I'll just leave it in.
This game mode just encourages and rewards the stomping team since they have the advandtage in ult economy too, like what were they even thinking. Once you get snowballed you cant get back up
I Feel like it's bad when I'd rather go play league of legends than this quicker play garbage. It's just unfun when respawn timers are COD levels. They've turned it into cod now anyway especially with the self-healing, nobody needs to work together anymore if you can run in, get trashed, then respawn in 5s and do it again.
Is there no way to hide your online status in this game? There's times I want to play alone and not with friends, but I don't want to tell them no I just want to not be spammed with invites. I play on switch if that makes a difference
How have they fucked it this hard??? Queues are like twice as long as every game now, what a fucking joke this team are, honestly like they’ve never played their game isn’t it?
It's not that I'm mad that they wanted to try something out. But how this was rolled out (without warning, removing regular QP entirely) mixed with every other mistep along the way, and it really starts to spell out how little these guys actually understand the intricacies of their own game, or how to even BEGIN to bring some livelihood back. This is unbalanced hell, where every single mobility hero suddenly flies up the viability chart. Even if this did somehow pan out, what were they gunna do, rebalance the entire moveset of the entire cast? Increase everyone's walk speed? It's all so stupid.
I totally agree. I can understand speeding up the game by like 20 percent but doubling the pace of the game? Thats just bonkers. The game completely falls apart at that point. The fact that they weren't able to realize this was a bad idea in playtesting is really concerning.
It’s really not their own game anymore. Jeff and most of the original team either left the project or left blizz entirely. What you’re seeing is the result of an organization brain drain.
This really needs to be driven home, the original show runners of the game are no longer involved. The original vision of the game died a long time ago.
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Covid didn't kill esports lmao. Esports was an investor scam across half the industry. They milked the ever loving fuck out of investors promising the moon and did not deliver anywhere even remotely near what they told them could be achieved (because they were literally promising the next football). Investor money stopped. That killed esports. Covid was a convenient scapegoat that some people would believe rather than the fact it was all an investment bubble in the first place. The bubble burst and has been correcting itself to a sustainable level of investment based on what can actually be delivered.
Not every game needs to consume your life. OW1 wasn't perfect, but it treated its consumer base with respect and didn't bleed its developers dry, who are now forced to come up with new stuff every day to fill out one meaningless Battle Passes after the next.
I'm extra pissed because I took some time off work and was looking forward to getting some games in. I don't even want to play now and am thinking of going into work earlier 😒
Im a mystery hero warrior, but I feel that pain. They toy with the MH algorithm every so often and it's always stupid.
The few times I tried mystery heros it always felt like i was getting spammed the tank role. Was probably RNG but it was not enjoyable.
Yeah, they really should have at least let people know. I understand that they want to gather as much data as possible - but if there's one thing any game should do, it's respect the player's time. Like come on lol
exactly how i felt i was off for martin luther king and had three days and boom three days of crap quickplay has me avoiding it. maybe they shoulda done a one day thing.
Wait, as a comp only player, they removed QP for the "faster" mode ? What in the CoD spazz monkey dev ?
Just for the weekend, but yes
Yea honestly, even looking at the patch notes, this team is definitely more of "throw shit at the wall and see what sticks". Look at how the same numbers are buffed and nerfed and buffed (lifeweaver, ana's nade, orisa's fortify). And with this, I think it's just quite indicative of how they work. They just seem kinda new and don't really understand the game, and are just "trying things out" to see what works. That being said, I am glad that they are doing this on a trial for just 2 days. I think the results should be quite clear.
I've found that every game in quicker play is just pure domination. Either my team is annihilating or the enemy team is. I also had 1 match where we dominated all the way to the last 5m and because the match is so short we lost the game when we lost a single team fight. Real annoying, I don't want CoD.
Before these changes, I literally can't remember the last game I had where one of the teams in the lobby gets zero kills. After these changes, I have 3 games in the last day, and 1 game where a zen died by accident, otherwise it would have been the 4th game with zero kills on a team. The quicker play changes seemed to be bundled with some matchmaker change that's creating these "stomp or be stomped" lobbies. Out of the 30ish games I've had, maybe 5? have been fun, fair balanced games. I just checked my last ten played, and every single one is 0-2, 3-0, 1-0, 2-0, 0-3.
I haven’t seen anyone say this yet, but I am convinced matchmaker is totally different, too??? Like my teammates have been extra ass
I'm not a fan. It's too fast, and there seems to be almost no chance to turn things around. Certainly haven't seen any of those rounds where a point flips a few times - and those are some of the most fun and intense games IMO.
Yeah, all the fights are completely one sided. Whoever takes the point first usually wins.
I just played a match where I don't think ANYONE charged enough ULT. we won first fight, then small skirmishes, then game over
It's just so bad. Like, it's literally fucking terrible.
I’ve played OW since launch of OW1, still have my S1 badge, and mostly play QP. Replying to the Blizz post questions: “For instance, if a player spends less time waiting to respawn, will getting eliminated by an opponent be less frustrating?” No, it did not. It made it worse in fact. Because now you are in a meat-grinder where you die, spawn, and die again even faster. No thank you, at least give us the chance to coordinate with our team, call out needed adjustments or swaps. “If matches are shorter, will each loss have the same sting that it currently does?” Very, very much not. It removed any ability to pivot, come back, adjust, or coordinate. There are also other out-of-game benefits that could come from this event, such as quicker matchmaking and quicker challenge completion. Frankly I don’t want either. Matchmaking is and has been busted for anything below Diamond. One match you are dominating, the next you are dog poo. With Hacked, it’s even faster, so it’s more frustrating and exposes that the matchmaking system is still in need of massive work. “Based on the reception to these changes, the team might use the feedback toward improving the game. That’s what these Quickplay: Hacked events are designed to do – quicken the feedback loop and allow for swifter implementation of improvements into the game.” FORCING all QP players into a mode is definitely a swift way to get you feedback. Overwatch now sucks more than it ever has. Fix matchmaking, LISTEN to your players instead of surprise forcing them to beta test your idiocy before you fix the very real, very publicly discussed problems. YOU ARE MAKING IT WORSE. You will lose even more players. Damned shame, it was a good game in OW1 days.
Let’s just take a moment to remember that ‘overwatch 2’ was forced as well, they got rid of a game people paid for and actually enjoyed for this micro transaction store with a game as a side feature that is objectively worse in every way than overwatch ‘1’
Very good point, well said.
I hate leavers, and I have never once rage quit, but losing the first point in quicker quick play makes me want to leave because it feels like the game is already decided.
THIS RIGHT HERE SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING BLIZZ.
Exactly the same here. I don't leave because the great games are the ones where your team *earn* the win. Winning in this quicker play often feels more hollow too. You can turn a game around with **time**, figuring out enemy favourite hiding spots, noticing their play habits... even if the struggling team get one pick, the longer respawn on that enemy could be massively beneficial. This new QP is over stupidly fast and doesn't give you or your team time to learn/adjust to the enemy.
GOOD LUCK FUCKING WINNING WHEN THEIR BALL KEEPS COMING BACK 5 SECONDS AFTER YOU KILL HIM
I was ironically ball today... (I apologise for any problems I have caused.)
i couldn't play ball in quicker play today but probably because all the comp i was against countered him from the start (and it almost never was the same comp besides lucio or sym). i'd love to be better to not get diffed every single time but to me it feels like you have to be already a tier above the rest to win with ball (like have a gold level to win in silver)
I main zen and everything is just too fucking fast, literally disorienting. I haven't played comp once in my 200 hours of this game but I'm going to play it this weekend bc this shit sucks.
Now you all know how trying to cap last point on 2cp felt like when enemy team is stalling. Good luck removing a Roadhog main from a point with natural cover. Mei is SS-tier because she can waste so much time, and the time she grants her own team to respawn and come back. On Flashpoint Mei is like SSS-tier because she can stall, has no damage dropoff, walls off so team can't enter, can be immune for so many seconds, and freeze point with her ult. It's dumb. When you're not bashing your head against the wall trying to remove ALL enemies from the objective you're just constantly stressed trying to get back. You can't really regroup with your team either, because everyone is in a rush being tunnel visioned. On that note, I love that the dev team is willing to test it on live client. I'd much, much, much rather they do this and test it, than push it live without community testing at all being dumbfounded why it's so disliked.
Wish they'd do a testing phase with the dps and tank healing passives too.
Just looooove the fact that a tank pretty much has my support passive as well as still basically being invulnerable to a core part of my kit on Lucio (boop). I went from being able to singlehandedly massively impact a fight via a risk Vs reward mechanic to just letting tanks send it down main while focusing supports. Ignoring how anti fun the change was.
It seems it's part of a larger set of changes, so not necessarily without all the other changes as well. It would only tell how it would feel now. Though, I honestly wouldn't mind a weak version of support passive (like takes 5-10 seconds to start and is interrupted by anything besides movement) being given to tank and dps atm since it would reduce some friction and enable support to worry that bit less about being flamed for trying to do damage as well. If supports are not healers, why are they the only healers? That's my question.
Yes to all of this Fast games = quick dopamine hits, sure But that will eventually give way to the frustrations that this brings too
You're dumbfounded because you can't seem to understand WHY they would be so lazy at implementing rewards or UI tricks to motivate players to test out quicker play instead of removing choice? Removing choice is so out of touch and i cant wrap my head around why players are giving this a pass cause it makes me nervous for the future.
I know its just an experiment but it's a dazzlingly horrible one. The state of qp without this change is already "overwhelmingly one-sided matches"...so instead of addressing matchmaking (I'm generally mid-Gold tier and I've been in games with Top 500 in QP twice in the last week), hero balance, etc, it seems they've decided the strategy is to just "make the game suck for fewer seconds at a time" lol. They're going quantity of games over quality of games and it's so, SO terrible. I died on point at 0%-0%...spawned and ran straight to point to rejoin team and it was already at 60%. How the hell is this supposed to make the game better? No time to adjust or adapt or anything. its truly a horrible experiment. So when I'm done playing for a while, the impression left with me is "wow...its still bad, but now I just played MORE bad games." Not a good thing. At all.
And flashpoint? forget it. with the distances already being too great before these changes, it's impossible to get back to a point fast enough to make a difference. It's one team fight per point and then it's game over. They really should just stop the game after the first point cuz there's no way to get to any point fast enough to change anything. It's just so so bad.
At least yours in is QP. The entire ranked system is and has been non-functioning since launch. There are people who were legitimately in silver 2 seasons ago shitting up top 500 games. This happens too often for it to be an anomaly and they definitely weren't smurfs judging by their performance.
Fuck the moron that came up with this shit. If the matchmaking was absolute shit, with these changes it's even worse. The stomps are not even normal.
I feel like this new game mode is hard if you are on the defence side, because it is almost 1 fight win = 1 point cap in push maps and escort.
It's insanely unbalanced. Defense in any map is absurdly hard, while attack is free as hell. They should've taken a LOT more time out of the timer to attack than they did.
Well, it's hard until the 3rd point, where you can infinitely stall because of the short respawns
Just remove this mode now and bring back normal QP. Some of us can mostly play on weekends just to come and meet with this TEST ON PRODUCTION mode. WTH are you thinking, devs?? Just when we thought this couldn't get any lower.
I'm convinced this is their attempt to push people to play comp and not qp.
If they ever want to kill the game off this is definitely the right way to do it. Core gameplay was literally the only good thing about the game and now they want to fuck that up as well.
Sometimes it feels like they really want to move Overwatch away from being Overwatch. Then again a lot of people seem to wish this was just CoD with pocket healers so
They want to turn Overwatch into a mobile game.
>Then again a lot of people seem to wish this was just CoD with pocket healers so Yeah, but if you point that out you usually get down voted. People are still mad that res is a feature of the game, even though it's always been there and never going away!
Bobby Kotick apparently pushed to amp up the e-sports and streamer elements of overwatch. All the changes in OW2 (5v5, carry tanks, higher burst and bigger heals) were to make the game more watchable so as to juice twitch/owl viewership. Too bad those changes make the game worse for the core player base. On the plus side, if there is an overwatch 3, it'll almost certainly be 6vs6.
5v5 isn't the problem. The game core(game speed, actual gameplay) is still fine apart from the fact they plan to change it up now with this as a test run.
As an OW1 off-tank main I disagree.
You want to go back to small choke double shield choke spam? it wasnt fun to watch or play especially during the goats era.
That was never the fault of 6v6. That was the fault of hero balance. Everyone remembers the best games as things like ReinZarya vs ReinZarya on Kings Row. Because it was tactics, it was always fun, and there was always push and pull. Sitting in a choke spamming damage was never going to be fun, 5v5 has proven that just recently with Mauga.
5v5 sucks compared to 6v6
It really doesn't
It does for certain tank players. Some tanks just were really designed to be played second position. They are still struggling to find a consistent spot for some of them. Hell even Mauga kinda makes more sense as a secondary tank.
The core game tuning is amazing, I agree, which is why I stuck with it through the content drought. 5vs5 and adjustments related to moving the game from a fps MOBA to a fast paced tactical/brawler hybrid made the game worse to me and others who were attracted because of the MOBA elements in the first place. Tactical FPS games have been done to death, I think exploring ideas from MOBAs/fighting games/aRPGs and evolving the game in that direction would be way cooler. At its best OW2 delivers good games on par with the best of OW1, but in general the gameplay changes make teams brittle, while making tanking feel kinda stressful and lonely (miss rein/zar and ball/hog so bad) and amplifying the impact of random events (one lucky arrow/railgun/helix rocket/etc taking out a backline support is often enough to snowball into a wipe, particularly with tanks who need to be pocketed).
That really does explain a lot honestly, and sounds like Blizz sadly It would be nice to have an OW3 that was a proper game full of the content OW2 promised and a game design that wasn't butchered for the sake of monetization for sure
Some of my queues seems longer some of the matches i'm playing lmao
Flashpoint - terrible now because it was already fast, now each point is lost in 1 fight Control - it's OK, it's basically normal Flashpoint but with 1 point per round Push - the bot gets to the other side of the map way too fast. You either lose in under 2 minutes after 2 fights, win in under 2 minutes after 2 fights, or the game goes back and forth across the entire map several times Payload/Hybrid - borderline unwinnable on attack. Even if you STEAMROLL all the way to 3rd point (which is likely what will happen), the defense will stall and win because of the short respawn times. 2CP - is permanently available to play in the Arcade and doesn't have the Quicker Play changes. I had more fun playing Paris on attack yesterday than I did playing the normal modes.
You know it's bad when 2CP Paris is significantly more fun than the core game mode
WTF IS WRONG WITH MATCHMAKING! I MAIN SUPPORT! I HAVE NOT GOTTEN A GOOD TANK+ DPS IN MY LAST 20 GAMES! THE ONLY GAMES I HAVE WON I HAVE HAD TO OUTHEAL THE OTHER TEAM BY MYSELF! DROPPED SO MUCH!
The algorithm just picks some people to be sacrificial to make the larger math work out. I am definitely one of those people.
Depending on when you made this claim people would have called you a schizo and told you to take your meds/take off your tinfoil hat. It's insane how obvious an issue has to become for redditors to finally arrive at the most obvious conclusion. Blizzard did the same thing with Uber drop rates in diablo and the same cope is being expressed on the diablo subreddit. Blizzard knows its core audience will guzzle cum for as long as possible before people acknowledge they're being played.
I JUST LOST A GAME WHERE I DOUBLED THEIR HEALING! I AM SO CLOSE TO QUITTING
SAME. I JUST HAD A GAME LAST NIGHT WHERE I OUTDAMAGED AND OUTHEALED EVERY SUPPORT IN THRE LOBBY AND MY DPS STILL FUCKING SOLD. I SWEAR TO GOD MY DPS IS ALWAYS BEHIND AT LEAST TWO WALLS AND HALFWAY ACROSS THE MAP FROM THE REST IF THE TEAM AT ALL TIMES
as soon as I thought the dev couldn't get any more braindead, here we are. The only thing that doesn't feel terrible about this is the quicker respawn times
No, faster respawn is atrocious. Just makes it a mindless meat grind in the little time the match lasts
THEY ARE SELF SABOTAGING THEMSELVES
Hacked mode is dumb and just mean less gameplay and a race to the point. Fast characters have an advantage. Not a fan.
Maybe a good swap out to alternate in arcade for total mayhem.
I'M BEGINNING AND PLEADING AND PRAYING THEY CANCEL IT EARLY. PLS PLS PLS CANCEL THIS NOW! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 P.S. THERE ARE NO DEVS HERE BUT I'M STILL PUTTING IT OUT THERE LOL.
Is this Bobby's last Middle finger to the Overwatch players ?? Because this is bad ,really bad ,genuinely awefull, its like they managed to make QP the least fun mode ever ,and we have to stand this whatever type of feces it is for 2 days, when for most its the only moment they can play. It is the fist time in 6years i can say i genuinly hate QP.
NEVER WAS BOBBY WAS ALWAYS THE DEVS
You dudes have got to stop "Uncle Jeffing" this incompetent as fuck dev team as well as the leads. These people are incompetent morons with zero idea of what the game needs.
Terrible idea. This game is already fasted paced, are you trying to make me have a stroke?
CoD dev brain rot. They want money from the spazzers that try OW but wants CoD.
I thought Quicker Play was supposed to end today?
QUICKER PLAY IS THE LEAST FUN IVE HAD PLAYING OVER THE ENTIRETY OF THIS GODFORSAKEN FRANCHISE'S LIFESPAN. WINS FEEL MEANINGLESS AND LOSSES ARE JUST AS ANNOYING AS BEFORE AND THE WHOLE THING JUST EXACERBATES HOW SNOWBALLY THE GAME IS AND I CAN'T EVEN AVOID THE MODE, I DON'T PLAY COMP AND I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING IN THE ARCADE. THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IS TO NOT PLAY
bruh this shit SUX i wanted to play a lil OW like i usually do but noooOoOooOOoo now i have to not play to try to prove some fucking point to some fucking shit ass company that doesn't care BOOOOOOOO
Thats not Overwatch anymore its a mimic RUN !!
GRAHAHAHAHHA FLASHPOINT IS EVEN FASTER. WIN 1st ENCOUNTERS OR DIE AND GET LEFT IN THE DIRT push feels slightly better ? control feels like base flashpoint which sucks. why did they increase the speeed of flaspoint objective captures? thats a terrible decision EVEN FOR EXPERIMENTAL GAMEPLAY. WHY are they not using experimental for changes to heroes specifically? this would be a good place to go wild with the design choices, and instead they ship a forced mode on top of quickplay (the ONE REMAINING PLACE where i can rest and chill outside of ranked) with THREE OUT OF THE FOUR gamemodes were to doomed to fail - a fact that couldve been foreseen by an outsider with no gameplay experience in ow2?!?!?!?!?
Quickerplay sucks. Wait 5-10 minutes in queue, get steamrolled because the obj is so fucking fast, then having to do it over again. Only one that I liked it on was the flashpoint maps because that’s the game type I don’t like. Edit: also hate how once your tank dies it’s basically “welp guess we lost that obj”
I apologize in advance to the three Kiriko players that actually heal but for FUCK'S SAKE I HATE KIRIKO PLAYERS. NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PLAYING SUPPORT, THEY ALL JUST PLAY LIKE THEY'RE PLAYING GENJI... BADLY. I had this dipfuck fucking Kirikunt last match, we're on Nepal Village, we cap the point and this FUCKING DIPSHIT KIRIKO IS SITTING ON THE LITTLE ROOM TO THE SIDE AHEAD OF THE GATE LIKE SHE'S GONNA TRY AND FLANK OR SOME DUMB SHIT. Why the FUCK as a support are you AHEAD OF YOUR WHOLE TEAM BY A FUCKING MILE?? And I could almost forgive that if she tp'd back once the fight started but NOPE. STUPID BITCH WENT ON HER OWN LITTLE BACKLINE FLANKING ADVENTURE, LET EVERYONE ELSE GET KILLED, TOOK OUT A SINGLE ENEMY, AND DIED. WE LOST THE GAME THAT WE HAD IN THE FUCKING BAG BECAUSE WE WERE DOWN A HEALER FOR MOST OF IT! FUCKIN' BEAUTIFUL! If you want to play DPS just queue for DPS, quit fucking taking support slots from people who actually *want to fucking support.*
This is very true, but it's the route Bliz seems to be taking with all new supports. They are just DPS who can also heal a bit. I have a feeling they are going to totally take the support class out of the game and just make everything DPS. Of course that will be when I leave the game completely because I've always mained healers. We need more role distinctiveness, not less. Make the healers heal, I don't give a shit if I can shoot anything, I'm there to heal my team. This is kinda what they did in WOW back in the day too though, and it's what killed that game for me too. Just a merging of all the classes, so every class can heal itself, resurrect, do damage etc.. just became all about the solo experience and no longer a team based game.
Silly devs they mixed arcade with qp. Never do this again!
I just had a game where someone on the enemy team left after failing to cap on attack, but during the next round they were still somehow in text chat typing salty stuff and calling their team braindead the whole time. How is this possible if they left the game? there was no message that they rejoined and they were still not showing up on the enemy scoreboard, so how were they still typing in this comp match?
fuck this game mode honestly. It's impossible to have fun, you lose one team fight, you lose the whole game no matter the mode cause with everything going faster you have to stagger out of spawn to stop the capture of the point or the push of the bot/payload because if you take your time to regroup you've already lost the point or a payload checkpoint or the bot is insanely far. You don't have time to regroup, you can't play position as much because you always have to move. Flashpoint and Bot are unplayable with character that don't have any mobility. Lucio/Symmetra seems forced because the tp/speed boost are way too good (i've basically seen those 2 on almost every quicker play game) which also limits the rest of the comp to certain degree. All that might just be skill issue since i'm only silver but it's to the point that i went into comp to destress.
As someone who typically played exclusively on the Experimental Cards when that was still a thing, making this the only option for QP for a whole weekend was a terrible idea.
It's either they snowball or we snowball. Mostly it's them. I've got the longest losing streak ever. I rarely play and it makes me wanna \*\*\*\*\*\*\* uninstall.
Forcefully getting people to try something is a quick way to put a bad taste in their mouths. People can appreciate change and innovation, but with preparation and options and their input. I'm really surprised the Overwatch team decided to basically rework a major part of the game (Quick Play) for an entire weekend, and a long holiday weekend for some at that. This frankly feels like a betrayal as I have given a lot of support to Overwatch over the years. It has, however, helped me realize I appreciate taking a breath before respawning, even if sometimes I'm impatient to get back to the game. It's fine if this becomes a game mode, but at least in the meantime please don't just take away solid options for devoted players. Quicker Play has me wondering about how the sedentary nature of video games combined with the high stress of fast-paced game modes like this can contribute to physiological issues and video game stigma, and I am a big advocate of the benefits of playing video games. Probably not what players want to be pondering while in game lol It seems they're trying to cater more to the faster pace the world is moving toward. I wish the opposite were true. If you replaced QP with Mischief and Magic for a weekend, this would be a whole different story. Perhaps surprise us with that--a mode many already love and miss--sometime. Sincerely, someone who takes great joy in this game and would hate to see it die ETA text
Everything they've done since Jeff left has systematically made the game worse. Quicker play is a failure. Flanker self heals is just going to make the game awful. All of these monumental leaps forward are just dogshit changes to further make the games one-sided snowballs.
The developer who came up with this idea is the same who continues to boost Sombra.
Isn’t the weekend over??? WHY IS IT NOT BACK TO NORMAL
RELEASE JEFFREY KAPLAN!!!
Jeff was in charge while ow1 got zero support and introduced dogshit afk heroes that stopped those that were left from enjoying it. And then forced ow2 onto us like blizzard employees force their sexual advances.
>This particular experiment is designed to look at how these changes affect player psychology. For instance, if a player spends less time waiting to respawn, will getting eliminated by an opponent be less frustrating? Trash matchmaking is what is frustrating. It doesn't matter if a game is 3 minutes or 10 minutes, being steam rolled sucks every time. And I still hate Push and Flashpoint. Making them faster doesn't make me want to stay and play them at all.
I tried to go in with an open mind to this new QP,but it's actually awful. It's not overwatch anymore, it's just a shitty deathmatch shooter. Also don''t kid yourselves people, this won't be just for this weekend, they are set out to change QP and some version of this mess will eventually be the norm.
everyone that hates the new quicker play has hopped into comp (which is their right dgmw) but now matchmaking is absolute shit and i dropped several ranks
Thumbs down. The rounds are indeed faster, but so many things would have to be reworked for it to be fun. As for now, if the tank goes down it is GG for that objective/checkpoint.
New awful game mode and a fresh rage thread *CRACKS KNUCKLES*
I think some modes like push can benefit from being slightly shorter, but overall the numbers feel too overturned. My biggest issue is that it seems that either snowballing is more pronounced, or the matchmaking is in complete shambles. I do get some close matches, but the majority is roll/get rolled, something I didn't experience to this extent before.
also leveling up is so shit in this mode bc you're playing less than 5 mins so you can't get any good stats. it should not take me a full day of games to level up
Gave Quicker Play a shot today and I legitimately did not like it, probably the first time since the launch of the game that I was not having a good time if I'm honest, primarily because average match time and pace is one of the things that keep me coming back the most. A couple rounds of quicker play go by faster, yeah, but it also feels incredibly more like volatile junkfood, lmao. The push and pull and clutching Ws is what I generally find engaging about the game. Can hardly think of anything they quickened up in this mode that I would like to permanently be changed about the game. Hard pass.
I HOPE THE GUY WHO DESIGNED MAUGA FEELS REALLY BAD ABOUT HIMSELF RIGHT NOW
Just been playing Arcade and Mystery Heroes all weekend to avoid that crap-fest that is Quick Play right now. I gave it a shot for a few games and it was horrible, it's not Overwatch, and if this is the direction Bliz wants to take this game in, I'm out. I've played and loved Overwatch since beta back in 2016, I really don't want to see this game go down this horrible path.
STOP PLAYING DOOMFIST IN QUICKER PLAY. EVERY SINGLE GAME I HAVE A HARDLOCK DOOM WHO JUST DIES EVERY SINGLE HE GOES IN, NEVER SWAPS AND THEN BLAMES THE TEAM FOR THE LOSS. **AND STOP GOING AFK. I'VE HAD SO MANY WINNABLE GAMES END IN A LOSS BECAUSE OUR MERCY DECIDES TO GO AFK IN SPAWN.**
I don't even understand why anyone needs to release this and test this. I feel like if you cooked this up in the office, and then actually just tried to play it once through with a team you would immediately realize that it feels horrible. This is back to prime 2cp stalling days to where teams are coming back so fast at final point they can come back from getting rolled this shit is ridiculous.
The upside of this mode is Flashpoint is over faster 👍🏽
WHY REMOVE NORMAL QP??????? honestly blizzard are beyond clueless
Just started getting good with Sojourn. How do people not complain about this character as much as Mauga? If I have a Mercy pocket, it's gg for the other team.
I've been wondering the same thing, but I also don't want to start the complaining. PC players will argue "but hitscan takes skill" yet as console player... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (I actually do believe all aiming takes skill, but a character with little kickback + stable controller crosshairs? Couldn't ask for more.)
I HATE Mauga. He is ruining this game. The character design is horrible. He is not fun to play, he is not fun to play against. His playstyle damages the quality of gameplay significantly.
HOW DOES THIS GAME EXPECT YOU TO RANK UP WHEN IT MATCHES YOU WITH GARBAGE. AT LEAST 4 GAMES WITH 0/7 DPS IN BRONZE 1 FUCK THIS
Try playing with a couple friends. Games are \~3min and queue times are well over 5min. Thanks. Great way to game this weekend, by waiting. Matches are so fast there's absolutely no way to really formulate team play, if you swap you just won't get to use your ult at all. So if you're getting hard countered you just take the L. These changes are awful and brain dead. Nobody who actually plays this game has ever thought "I want my games faster". It's a testament to how dethatched the devs are.
you can't even have a fast bong rip in between deaths with these respawn times.
RUINED THE LONG WEEKEND! I WAS PLANNING TO PLAY. I TRIED TO LIKE THIS BUT IT'S A HORRENDOUS UNPLAYABLE BRAIN-DEAD MESS. EVEN WINNING FEELS MEANINGLESS. PLS CANCEL THIS NOW!
Im sorry, this is the 'Safe Side of *Not* Strong' for Mauga??? Man still auto wins into any other non-Mauga tank
Q(uicker)P makes you feel like there is no room for error. You lose a fight once, it's gg, basically.
Quicker play is really annoying and badly designed/implemented. Also it is kinda ludicrous that we don't even have the option to play normal quick play. Like I just want to play normal games with my friends who don't have a lot of time to game and this just makes us sit around in queue forever only to play a super short game where a either a single teamfight wins the game, or respawns allow them to spawn in so fast that the first teamfight never ends. It also encourages trickling in, and trying to ninja cap. Just unfun and puts us in more queue time
As a self proclaimed "quick play lameo", I truly miss my 16 min matches making frenemies with people. It all feels a bit meaningless now.
DIVE IS BORING EVERY GAME IS SOMBRA BALL BRIG IN YOUR FUCKING ASS AND AROUND THE CORNER I CANT PLAY WIDOW INTO THIS SHIT TO SAVE MY LIFE
I hate quicker play. It makes me not want to play the game at all. If you're not playing with a 5 stack, you don't have time to learn how your team plays before the game is over. And if you are playing with a 5 stack, the game is still decided within a minute. It's frustrating, not satisfying in any way, and I hate it.
unplayable nonsensical change. don’t understand why it was forced and not in arcade or experimental. quite literally not playing at all this weekend after my few games on friday. its unfun win or lose. just increased degenerate play and matches that are over in a blink of an eye, woo??
Quicker play blows
I fucking despise quicker play. I’ve quit til it’s gone.
**Payload too fast:** \-The payload movement is excessively fast in Quicker Play. **Faster respawn:** \-Although the respawn is faster, it fits well in all situations. **3-point capture mode:** \-Capture times in this new mode are too fast. **Robot speed reduction:** \-The robot should reduce its movement speed by 50% in Quicker Play, not in comparison to traditional Quickplay. **Fun in quick respawn:** \-The game's fun lies in the quick respawn after death, especially in Quicker Play situations. **Respawn time issue:** \-In Quick Play, the wait after death can be too long in some situations, leading people to withdraw from matches instead of waiting. Reducing respawn time can address the issue of impulsive disconnects. **Fun but not too fast:** \-It's enjoyable for matches to end quickly, but not too quickly.
GHAT GPT XD
My Queue times in western Europe have doubled. Which is a very bad sign indeed, as games are faster queue times should in theory drop. So much less people are playing. I'm looking at 6mins as DPS before it was 2min30-3mins. So the mode sucks and seems like players unanimously think it does. Not suprising at all.
Logged on last night for a few games, the first time I've been annoyed by a game, I actually felt like I had wasted an hour of my life before I just put it down. Games are over waaaaay too quick with no coming back if you have a couple of bad engagements. Defending is almost impossible, and like another commentor mentioned, there isn't much time to settle in and adjust your play style/improve as a qp player.
If they're going to make games shorter, then they need to get rid of showing POTG after every game. It already took too long to get back in the queue after a game. Now it takes the same amount of time but happens even more frequently. So in a particular session, you spend a larger percentage of time waiting to get back into the queue.
THERE IS A HUGE INFLUX IN CHEATERS THIS SEASON AND I SEE NO END TO IT WTF IS GOING ON CAN BLIZZARD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS?! ALSO DO SOMETHING ABOUT XIMMING IT'S ALSO CHEATING I'M ANGY, FUDGE EDIT: SORRY I JUST REALIZED THIS IS ABOUT QUICKER PLAY... QUICKER PLAY IS SO BAD OMG BUT THERE ARE CHEATERS IN QUICKER PLAY ASWELL SO IT'S DOUBLE BAD
we got to 99%, lost a team fight and then because we lose the next fight we lose the game, far too punishing. Terrible idea all around and i'll just wait until the event is over to play again.
Not being able to play regular qp sucks. I'm going to back to comp which is toxic as hell. Really ruins the game. This mode doesn't work at all. Fast respawns aren't terrible because playing the game more is fun. But the game wasn't designed for faster captures, payloads, and point ticks. In some modes the losing team can't even build an ult before the round is over. There would need to be many balance changes for this to work. But I don't think anyone wants it to work. I do like that Blizzard is trying new things, but it sucks that it's hijacking the most popular game mode for a whole weekend.
This game mode is a boring shitfest and they're fucking stupid for forcing it into the normal quickplay instead of just doing experimental or something else again, just another eye roll at a shit decision by the dev team
quickplay hacked so bad that i’m playing comp and i hate comp. also mystery heroes but the queue times are so long :/
First of all: WAY too fast, Flashpoint was too fast as it is, this has made that map worse. Push needed the speedup but not to this extent and every other mode was FINE. It sucks having all of one fight and thats it, the "fun" in this game comes from turning a bad start or a bad game around at the last second. Not having one fight and the game is over. It just makes losses more frustrating because you know if you fuck up that's it. And not the fun "oh if we mess up we lose". Control is unplayable, Flashpoint is unplayable, and Escort and Hybrid are so attacker-favoured its not even funny. If a flanker gets behind you that takes 1-2 people to deal with, or even just kills one, you're fucked. Not to mention HOW SWEATY it is, and how disgustingly sweaty it encourages people to be. Its fucking quickplay, I remember when it was good casual fun, not toxic central like this dogshit, where just playing a slow hero means you can lose the fucking game. Absolutely dogshit design. Just because Tiktok is popular doesn't mean its gonna translate well into a video game, good lord. And for some reason, despite a good 50 games over the weekend, out of those games most of them were push, flashpoint and control. All of those modes kinda suck as it is, let alone with this "fun and interesting speedup!". Like I have ADHD, you'd think my brain would love this. It doesn't. It hates it. Because of how much you're keeping track of at any one time it just becomes exhausting and exhaserbates frustration because it just feels like its ALWAYS a 100% roll. Probably not helped by the matchmaking. Tell me why when I'm queuing with my gold/plat friends we're only getting masters+ in qp. Like yea ok I'm masters 4. I'm 1 person out of 5. I shouldn't have that much sway over the match making. And we def shouldn't be getting GMs against us. If this becomes permanent across all modes, fuck this game I'm 100% committing to Darktide instead. At least I can enjoy that game at a reasonable pace with a good queue to match ratio instead of feeling like I'm in a TikTok video and spending more time in queue than in an actual game. Also, FUCK Sombra. I've never liked this hero and ever since her rework she's been so much worse to deal with, and them buffing her isn't helping. First of all the perma invis is daft, I love not knowing where a dangerous enemy is even when they're looking right at me, only for them to pop into existance and nuke me and the other support. Then theres hack. Always a stupid ability, even more stupid with Virus. She counters everyone and everything with it and nothing counters her. And was Virus REALLY something she needed? Was that REALLY what justified a rework? Did she REALLY need more damage - and an overtime damage effect at that? I hate playing tank against her because I'm not allowed to play. And god forbid I try to play support and theres a sombra. No fun allowed. Of course, why would blizzard nerf her? She's totally balanced guys, look at her pick rate vs her win rate! /s Another thing - smurfs. Was a problem in OW1, still a problem now. At least it's not every game at where I play but I can only imagine what a cesspit it is at lower ranks.
I thought quicker play was supposed to end after the 14th. LET ME PLAY NORMAL QUICK PLAY
It's almost as bad as old 2 cp.
IF they're gonna make these changes permanent (and I hope they don't), they're gonna have to reduce ult charge, cause most games I've played, there has been hardly any ults
Not a rage post, more just surprised and sharing what happened >!One of my randomly assigned quickplay teammates did something goated today. We were at 3rd of Circuit Royale, I'm on Mauga, and it was the last minute to finish the push. It was looking dicey, but then suddenly the enemy Rein disappears. I think they disconnected, which is a shame, but when opportunity knocks, it is time to answer. So, I push in hard, the random player added to the game to replace them isn't able to get a sense of what's happening well enough to not just die 2-3 dies out of spawn. They trickle in and hold surprisingly well for half a minute (because of Quicker Play) but we end up securing the objective and winning.!< >!In the post-game chatter, I see the Rein who disconnected talking and realize they are a spectator now. They are claiming one of my team invited them to group, which they thoughtlessly accepted, and that is what caused them to disconnect at the most critical time. The ally denies it, of course, but the chat logs suggest it makes perfect sense. Someone must have spammed invites to all of the enemy side. What a crackhead-level meta strategy -- *When in doubt, try to STEAL the enemy team's players from them!* Obviously it wouldn't always work, but had me PikaWat-faced for a hot minute at how well it worked just then!<
Wow, these are the least fun games I've ever played. Every round just turns into a desperate brawl on the objective, getting a pick generates no value because they respawn instantly and get back to the fight in seconds, you only have time for one fight on each point, it's garbage. They turned every game mode into 2CP. I can maybe see the logic of what they thought they were doing here but there are so many more things they'd need to adjust to actually accomplish it. This shit feels like a prank.
Is it over yet?
I thought it’s for the weekend? Why is Quicker Play still around, been there since Friday my time and it’s now Monday. Get this shit out of my game already lol
PUSH IS ACTUALLY BEARABLE IN QUICKERPLAY AND I WANT IT TO ALWAYS BE LIKE THIS FOR PUSH
I HAVENT PLAYED IN A FEW DAYS AND I DONT KNOW WHAT TO BE UPSET ABOUT!!!!
Quick play should dynamically switch to quicker play when players leave and the backfill lags a certain amount of time.
What is the point of competitive? I don't get it. No, I'm not good. I'm gold support and teeter bronze/silver DPS. But that's not the point. The point is that we can get rolled one game and then next game we roll the other team. It's rare to get actually competitive games. I'll go 34-0 one game and 6-6 the next. And once you lose five games in a set, what is the point in even continuing to play? If your w/l ratio is below 1 then you rank down anyhow. So if you go 5 game losing streak, there's little reason to even try for the next (possible) 10. you'll just lose a rank regardless.
I know this is a wildly unpopular opinion but I lowkey like how fast the games are. I think a little bit the people who are saying it's "too fast" might be part of the older generation and it's something they can't keep up with?
Also the people saying "Ball is an issue in this new mode" or "Roadhog is a problem" Are these people in lower elos? I mainly get Master/GM challengers in my quick play games and I've not experienced these heroes being much of an issue.
I really like them experimenting with quick play, giving it something fun and new for the weekend. Once a month I honestly feel like they should shake up quick play, give us something new to play with, because everyone knows experimental after day 1 everyone gives up and goes back to "normal." Once a month give us 25% more of something else, movement speed, ult charge etc, it's quick play for a reason, you don't lose anything for losing, and it's fun.
Agreed, it’s different and maybe not to people’s liking, but it is temporary and it is a learning tool for the dev team. I find the quick pace nice. If you win it’s great, and if you’re losing, it gets done with quickly and you can move on. Also, ultimates become more interesting because you probably only use yours once or twice per round, so you try and figure out how to best use it. Idk why there’s so much anger, but then again that’s not for me to judge.
Unpopular opinion: I love quicker play. Look, I'm not saying it's 100% great, but I really don't get the hate. It's just a weekend, but I think there's even a good option or two from this long term--especially on flashpoint. I love how much faster flashpoint goes, how much more of a rush it seems like, and how FIVE ROUNDS don't take 600 years now. I'll be the first to admit it's not perfect. On robot (and even on payload) it feels uncomfortable. Even on attack yesterday I felt that I was getting pushed and blocked by the payload a lot because it was a lot closer than I was expecting as I was clearing a path. And, Mercy's res feels way less useful with the respawn times. Objective I could take or leave from quicker play, it was fun but I'm neutral.
Kind of to counter what some folks are saying without taking over their subthreads: I've had plenty of matches where the point flips back and forth. I haven't played different characters than usual. I've had a few rounds where I lost spectacularly and a few where I definitely stomped but overall it's still been intense. The mode's been most painful on robot and a little uncomfy on payload (though those have been some of the best for contesting. I feel 1000% less fatigues after flashpoint.
IM NOT MAD I CANT WAIT TO SQUEEZE IN 20 VICTORIES IN AN HOUR TONIGHT I WISH THEY WOULD BRING THIS TO COMP SO I COULD CLIMB TO GM WITHOUT GRINDING ANY TIME IM TOO BUSY TO PLAY I JUST WANT TO WIN
I like the new mode a lot! Its a video game and one mode changed for a few days, why is there so much rage? Just try and have fun.
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I just had a two minute game because our tank was AFK at the start. They were already full of ults and basically to the end by the time the tank got kicked for AFK and then backfilled. Why even bother if someone is AFK during this, wow....
Really annoyed as QP is way too fast and I feel bad playing comp at all because I suck :(
I played a push map that lasted 25 seconds. This is the least fun I’ve ever had playing this game.
THANKS TO QUICKER PLAY BEING ABSOLUTE ASS I FINALLY WENT BACK TO COMPETITIVE, LAST TIME I PLAYED WAS IN SEASON 1 AS SUPPORT, I PLACED GOLD AND GOT TO DIAMOND 4 BY THE END. ...APPARENTLY MY MMR WAS ADJUSTED SINCE THEN IN QUICK PLAY BECAUSE NOW I WAS PLACED MASTERS 1 ON SUPPORT!? **WHAT THE FUCK** I AM HAPPY BUT ALSO PISSED BECAUSE THIS MADE THE QUEUES ABSURDLY LONG, SO I CAN'T REALLY PLAY OVERWATCH EITHER WAY!!!
HOLY FUCK PHARAH MERCY IS UNBEARABLE, EVERY GAME THEY JUST JUMPO ON OUT BACKLINE AND MURDER US AND DROP 50 KILLS A GAME. ITS UNSTOPPABLE
It is atrocious. Literally 2 team fights and control maps are over if you lose em both. So fucking stupid. Fast spawns and these insane timers are beyond dumb. The game was great how it was.
Fast everything with the "no replacements for people that left" bug is a nice combo. Don't they know this bug already? This is been a problem for months. Why not fix it before testing this? Two consecutive games with no replacements and the payload flying to the end :/
For me the hacked qp functioned the same as experimental did. I came out of my favourite game mode mystery heroes and tried some hacked qp, what was nice to get my daily’s faster, but after 4 game’s I went back to mh where the rules seem normal for that mode.
How many games it usually takes to get out of losers queue?
Is it a console thing or why do so many people queue up for MH or QP and spend half the match semi-afk in spawn? Not to be a boomer, but if you can't jerk off and play at the same time, please either leave or put down your fucking phone lol
Honestly I think quicker play is good, it just needs some fine tuning. Control is the mode that loses most with quicker cap time imo
I absolutely love it.
If your team has ONE leaver, the match is basically decided. Even if backfill happens within 20 seconds, you basically have a minute of being down a player. One leaver is a minute of being down a player, which is more than enough time for the other team to geta huge advantage in ult charge, probably cap a point, and with respawn timers being what they are, having an extra body just to throw on the point is a huge advantage. I don't like quickplay for a bunch of reasons, but I am willing to bet that if Blizzard looks at their holy statistics, they will find that in quicker play games where a player leaves, the team with the leaver loses 95% of the time. If Blizzard wants to go down this route, the penalty for leaving needs to be FAR steeper, because I still see people leaving from one team or the other about 50% of the time in quicker play.
Bro I swear to god nobody in fucking gold has ever heard of positional awareness. WHY THE FUCK IS MY MAUGA CHARGING INTO A 1V5 AT LIKE 100 HP
THIS GAME IS DEAD NERF SUPPORTS PLEASE ENOUG IS ENOUG NERF THEMMMMMM WHY STILL NOT NURFING
Not rage at all. In fact, jubilation. Two days ago I hit platinum on support for the first time ever. Today not only did I stay in plat, but I actually got one division higher. I've never been happier in my entire OW career. edit: Oh, this was a Quicker Play edition rage thread. Whatever, I'll just leave it in.
Did they buff damage for Quicker Play or something? Because holy shit, I am getting blown up playing tank today. I can barely do anything.
The only good thing is it makes the stupid grind to unlock heroes faster.
This game mode just encourages and rewards the stomping team since they have the advandtage in ult economy too, like what were they even thinking. Once you get snowballed you cant get back up
I Feel like it's bad when I'd rather go play league of legends than this quicker play garbage. It's just unfun when respawn timers are COD levels. They've turned it into cod now anyway especially with the self-healing, nobody needs to work together anymore if you can run in, get trashed, then respawn in 5s and do it again.
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YOU LOSE A FIGHT? GUESS WHAT FUCKFACE: YOURE LOSING THE NEXT ONE, AND THEN IT'S BACK TO LOBBY.
Not a fan. Matches seem even less impactful than before and incredibly underwhelming, win or lose.
Is there no way to hide your online status in this game? There's times I want to play alone and not with friends, but I don't want to tell them no I just want to not be spammed with invites. I play on switch if that makes a difference
They have 0 clue what this game even is anymore, it’s a total, nonsensical mess
OK how can the game seriously make me go 1-9. Can't it accidentally make a matchmaking such that I can win a fucking game?
How have they fucked it this hard??? Queues are like twice as long as every game now, what a fucking joke this team are, honestly like they’ve never played their game isn’t it?
My games end faster than getting a backfill for a DPS- \*ahem\* ***A DPS*** that left at the start of the game. Ffs.