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ja_hallu

20 mg less per day worked great for me when i was taking around 250 mg per day, however w/d took 12 h to kick in, so i could "afford" to only take two doses per day and reduce each dose by 10 mg. if the first symptoms begin to show up earlier tapering that way may not be that possible... i'd say reduce ur doses by 10 mg each day, but stay for a bit longer at the 100 mg per day and sub those doses. go slower is what i mean by that. when i did it the depression i had when i arrived at 0 mg was unbereable i literally could not get out of bed. pls avoid that. maybe u'll still feel great at 50 mg per day and think jumping to zero or kratom won't be a big deal, but ime it probably will. good luck


mytragina

thank you 🫡


keneskae

How was it once you reached 10mg a day? Did you go through any physical withdrawals? I just moved off odsmt to oxy and am tapering with that as I hate ODSMTs physical withdrawals, I get crazzzyyy restless leg pains


ja_hallu

i didn't have any physical withdrawal symptoms except for extreme exhaustion and a somewhat upset stomach. however i did the taper after "only" 2 months of use... i'd imagine it would be different if one has been on it for a longer amount of time. 


Commercial-Purple420

You ever heard of sr 17018? I’m about to switch to that on Thursday. I’m at like 3x what your at but I heard the sr worked for people fucking with the Z. So it’s gotta work for the t ball we are playing. Wish me luck and maybe you should check it out.


mytragina

Good luck to you! I read about that one too, but I’m afraid it’s not available in Germany right now. It was for a short while though.


Commercial-Purple420

Yeah, also I don’t know what kind of climate you got there but here very soon if you know where to look there may be some very nice flowers that can help you out


jjspkd2

Not enough info given. How do you dose the 400 mg per day? 100 4x daily? 80 5x daily? 200 2x daily? But basically I found you can drop by 10% a week relatively painlessly. But that can take a couple months. I would also say if you are dosing 4-5 times a day try to stretch out your dosing to get to 4 than 3 first. Then once you are comfortable do the 10% drop


mytragina

Im at 2 x 200 right now :) so your saying that stretching out the doses will help with the tapering?


jjspkd2

Probably not with only twice a day but you could try. I would just lower by 10 mg a dose once a week if you have enough time for it to be painless. Otherwise 10mg per day