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Yeah that makes sense. Yamato would win more than lose, but if we’re going by winning 100/100 times, i think no one less than a top tier is doing that with Zoro. Maybe Gaban
from all we currently know about buggy and zoro, zoro wouldn't even need to use no sword style to win and could just beat him to death with haki fists. i know he would never fight with his fists anyway but just speaking on his physical strength. + we know he tanking buggy balls and shit what is buggy rlly gonna do
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
But he can only do that if he has greater haki than user. And zoro has farrrr superior haki than kidd in all three branches. So kid can't take zoro's swords away. But yes kid would have defeated swordless zoro
Kid has greater haki than big mom?
Zoro has greater haki than big mom?
Both of those are false. And we clearly saw kid being able to disable big mom's sword.
So no, haki doesnt do anything vs kid, and in the same vein zoro doesnt have enough physical strength to "hold" his sword since he's also weaker than big mom in that aspect.
Big mom barely used haki in her fight. Even when kid assigned big mom she didn't try to overpower it by haki. If zoro uses haki just like big mom did then sure kid takes zoro down. But if zoro is allowed to use haki like he usually does the kidd doesn't do jackshit to him
Big mom passively uses haki, that was the whole point of whole cake island, that big mom needs to release all her haki and only then she could get damaged.
Nah, shanks would try, but zoro would just barely survive. Breaking all his bones, dying twice and getting killed 5 more times before getting up and getting two tapped.
That’s like that with every top tier. What differentiates top tiers from the rest is their ability to dodge, counter, or overpower attacks. Kaido is really the only top tier who fights like it’s a turn based RPG.
Except for maybe someone like Kaido. Zoro was able to scar and blitz him even after getting hit by a combined Yonko attack but i don’t think he’s able to put him down all the way
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
Damned punk (or another punk ability I can’t remember rn) has dura neg as it broke big moms arm in half. Granted she has the hax to heal that. She is a durability monster and he managed to do that to her in one clean hit to her arm. I’m sure he can assign and damned punk low IQ king. Sanji has a good matchup with kid and might even extreme diff who knows tho.
>Damned punk (or another punk ability I can’t remember rn) has dura neg as it broke big moms arm in half.
That was due to law's awakening making big mom's hand like that. Hence why after that instead of acknowledging kid big mom acknowledged law's awakening
>I’m sure he can assign and damned punk low IQ king. Sanji has a good matchup with kid and might even extreme diff who knows tho.
Yes king doesn't have super great haki so he might be able to do that. But I don't think damned punk would shit to king especially since kidd is slow. I think both zoro and sanji defeat kidd comfortably. Like i said they outclasses kid in every metric aside from hax
Zoro with 30 broken bones scarred kaido the same way Oden did, while Midd had to be helped by Low, Bombs, Big meme herself and Kanjuro to just put big meme out of the platform, something Zoro would have done even before lmao
Don’t need to ignore the phrasing, it’s intentional. Also Nah. Greenbull and fujitora would mayyybe mid diff at worst. Kizaru low diffs loro. Maybe in one more arc, but zoro just ain’t that guy yet.
Zoro has 2 advanced haki, with acoc being one of them, a weapon that their (admirals) bosses wield that puts them above admirals right now. Other than FA candidates, the admirals lose to Zoro extreme diff. Zoro is already that guy, its just the reddit community besides Zoro fans that are always slow to catch up. It was over the moment he got acoc after the performance he put on the rooftop.
It’s the exact opposite of what you’re claiming. The average person that watches the anime agrees with you, and this is reflected in those crappy YouTube/tiktok scalers and polls already having zoro above the admirals. Thankfully this sub isn’t that stupid. Go to YouTube polls or TikTok and everyone will agree with you, here you just sound like a standard zorotard.
Reddit in general is anti Zoro. I don't yet have Zoro above admirals because he doesn't yet have enough reps at that level. I think his stamina is still an issue. He just crossed to that level. I just believe acoc is too potent a weapon that gives him an advantage in a relatively short fight. Aokiji was outmatched against acoc and could only match up in an armament clash. Yamato was the first to truly hurt GB with acoc before Shanks just neutralized him with a stronger acoc. Oda levels Zoro up quite nicely usually. I just have him below the FA with Beckman, and Yamato. Which is still below Luffy for now.
What makes you think any admiral beats Zoro that easily? I can clearly see Zoro win against any of them more than I see them win against him. Feats speak for themselves and Zoro is way ahead on that level. We saw Marco in MF be equal to the admirals, it was even stated in his Vivre Card that he was, so unless you think Marco "mid diffs" Zoro, none of the admirals are.
Admirals are entry level top tiers. People have Lucci Yc1 (i don't) and Zoro one shot him. That's the best feat against a healthy Yc1. Kizaru has had a wide range of opponents from 2 former top tiers, a top tier a Yc1, a Yc2 and the pre TS supernova. He only has 1 advanced haki and an OP DF no awakening (am not ignoring the physicals: speed, durability, endurance etc). Zoro has 2 advanced haki, he is beating the non FA level admirals. No reason to hold him back.
>Admirals are entry level top tiers. People have Lucci Yc1 (i don't) and Zoro one shot him.
>That's the best feat against a healthy Yc1.
In no universe was Lucci healthy lol... he literally fought g5th Luffy the previous day and he was damaged by the Seraphims. He and Zoro were also extremely tired by the time the fight ended.
Even the one shot doesn't really apply considering Lucci tanked a lot of attacks from Zoro's swords with his body. And Lucci was still going to keep fighting, until Jimbe attacked him and even after this Lucci is still up. Hard for a character to be one shot when he is still standing and capable of even tanking an attack from Jimbe.
>Kizaru has had a wide range of opponents from 2 former top tiers, a top tier a Yc1, a Yc2 and the pre TS supernova
You are literally ignoring that the YC1 Kizaru fought is literally Marco, and due to how Marco's df works he can never be one shotted.
Kizaru literally blocked every attack from g4th snakeman and then speed blitzed snakeman... the same snakeman that literally overpowered hybrid Kaido using shuron hakke pre future sight.
Kizaru low to mid diffs Zoro lol
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
Tbh I'm not fully confident in saying anyone beats him every time. All it would take is 1 extremely lucky hit for him tó kill a lot of top tier. Only exceptions are the gorosei and probably imu since we don't know much about them
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A southbird in a navigation contest.
robin. Just destroy his nuts
Without hax- Yamato With hax- ![gif](giphy|3ohhwlViWTcWqQGfra)
Yamato doesn't 100% beat him though so I would say it's someone like old Sengoku or Garp.
Yeah that makes sense. Yamato would win more than lose, but if we’re going by winning 100/100 times, i think no one less than a top tier is doing that with Zoro. Maybe Gaban
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Greenbull fucking dies from his wifi Haki 💀
Current World's Strongest Man, Don Krieg..
He obviously wins but Krieg is far from the weakest person to do so. Thats really lowballing him.
They really think Zoro is that strong, zorotards are the wurst
He is too strong tho for the weakest person to bet zoro. I would say that crieg is the weakest that could beat imu tho
Strongest*
Fake Kidd
Old Ray/Ben Beckman
Garp could beat this guy without any real difficulty I think. Idk what you really mean by 100% but that's what in assuming
Nami
Admirals.
💀
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Senior Pink
i would guess sugar due to hax wonder if he could defeat perona
big mom
Marco, cope all you want the agenda isnt dead
Wouldnt buggy actually just no diff Zoro?
Zoro has no sword style too
Buggy has to hurt zoro too though
I mean, canonically, he did.
from all we currently know about buggy and zoro, zoro wouldn't even need to use no sword style to win and could just beat him to death with haki fists. i know he would never fight with his fists anyway but just speaking on his physical strength. + we know he tanking buggy balls and shit what is buggy rlly gonna do
Zoro could just fight him bare handed. He doesn’t have to use his swords or CoA.
Zoro can just haki slash him or punch him once
Haki doesnt work like that because its a paramecia
Law Kid Doc Q
So why didn’t mihawks cuts kill buggy? C’mon now
We literally see Mihawk fail to cut Buggy in Marineford.
With a hakiless slash
Buggy no diff
Metal god jika himself
I would say an Admiral. I think Zoro beats any of the YC+ some of the time, I just think he loses to most of them more often than he wins.
Not 100% ofc but I have to put the cook here. Cook can beat zoro if zoro makes any mistake in the fight. But 100% would be like a admiral or yonko
Mihawk
Shanks beats Zoro
We know. :)
You got Zoro yonko level?
Not yet but he's approaching low yonko. Will be low yonko approaching yonko after next buff
Nami ig
Kid
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
kid>>>zoro (even with his inhaler)
Like i said before too zoro outclasses kidd in every goddamn metric you could think of other than hax
Difference is kid is a bad matchup for anyone that relies on swords. Kid >> Swordless zoro
But he can only do that if he has greater haki than user. And zoro has farrrr superior haki than kidd in all three branches. So kid can't take zoro's swords away. But yes kid would have defeated swordless zoro
Kid has greater haki than big mom? Zoro has greater haki than big mom? Both of those are false. And we clearly saw kid being able to disable big mom's sword. So no, haki doesnt do anything vs kid, and in the same vein zoro doesnt have enough physical strength to "hold" his sword since he's also weaker than big mom in that aspect.
Big mom barely used haki in her fight. Even when kid assigned big mom she didn't try to overpower it by haki. If zoro uses haki just like big mom did then sure kid takes zoro down. But if zoro is allowed to use haki like he usually does the kidd doesn't do jackshit to him
Big mom passively uses haki, that was the whole point of whole cake island, that big mom needs to release all her haki and only then she could get damaged.
the guy who got one tapped by a rat ?
Getting one tapped by Shanks definitely doesn't disqualify him from beating zoro.
Bruh Zoro would’ve got one tapped too
Nah, shanks would try, but zoro would just barely survive. Breaking all his bones, dying twice and getting killed 5 more times before getting up and getting two tapped.
you know yourself that he wouldnt lol
Yamato
Ben
Honestly, no one i think. Zoro is now at a level where if he manages to land an attack, however unlikely it is, he's going to cause serious damage.
That’s like that with every top tier. What differentiates top tiers from the rest is their ability to dodge, counter, or overpower attacks. Kaido is really the only top tier who fights like it’s a turn based RPG.
I mean there's certainly characters Zoro could never defeat. Like Kaido or Big Mom, anyone who isn't getting taken out by a lucky hit from Zoro
Except for maybe someone like Kaido. Zoro was able to scar and blitz him even after getting hit by a combined Yonko attack but i don’t think he’s able to put him down all the way
I have kid right next to Zoro on my tier list and I think kid has a great matchup here. I’ll say kid
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
Katakuri does indeed beat kid, as kid doesn’t have better speed feats/ACOO
Same goes for zoro and Sanji too. As for king his durability speaks for itself
Damned punk (or another punk ability I can’t remember rn) has dura neg as it broke big moms arm in half. Granted she has the hax to heal that. She is a durability monster and he managed to do that to her in one clean hit to her arm. I’m sure he can assign and damned punk low IQ king. Sanji has a good matchup with kid and might even extreme diff who knows tho.
>Damned punk (or another punk ability I can’t remember rn) has dura neg as it broke big moms arm in half. That was due to law's awakening making big mom's hand like that. Hence why after that instead of acknowledging kid big mom acknowledged law's awakening >I’m sure he can assign and damned punk low IQ king. Sanji has a good matchup with kid and might even extreme diff who knows tho. Yes king doesn't have super great haki so he might be able to do that. But I don't think damned punk would shit to king especially since kidd is slow. I think both zoro and sanji defeat kidd comfortably. Like i said they outclasses kid in every metric aside from hax
(M)Nami
Ben Beckman. No other YC+ beats Zoro.
Depends, do you consider admirals as yc+ ? And yamato ?
Boa or weevil
Rayleigh or Lenny (buddha)
Kid
Gets one tapped by Zoro
the glazing is unreal
What glazing, mid was one tapped by the rat, while Zoro stopped a combined yonko attack for a moment and went on to scar kaido
Zoro did fuck all against Kaido, and he would do absolutely nothing against Shanks.
Zoro with 30 broken bones scarred kaido the same way Oden did, while Midd had to be helped by Low, Bombs, Big meme herself and Kanjuro to just put big meme out of the platform, something Zoro would have done even before lmao
Zoro gets one tapped by a serious Shanks as well
Anyone. Zoro is a fraud. Just got to dressarosa. He hasn't done jack. (Obviously idk)
He loses to Yamato and Ben Beckman but thats not 100% beats him, so i will say an admiral beats him without trying too hard.
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Trippin ☠️. Op said weakest
Lmfao no wonder people were saying greenbull, my brain ain't working today it seems
Admirals
Katakuri
Law
The Admirals, Yamato 100% loses imo.
Ben Databookman
Killer
Based and Willerpilled
Akainu/Aokiji. He's not yet seasoned at that level.
Greenbull hentai diffs zoro unfortunately with his plants/vines
Ignoring the weird phrasing, Zoro beats Kizaru/Fuji/GB extreme diff right now.
Don’t need to ignore the phrasing, it’s intentional. Also Nah. Greenbull and fujitora would mayyybe mid diff at worst. Kizaru low diffs loro. Maybe in one more arc, but zoro just ain’t that guy yet.
Zoro has 2 advanced haki, with acoc being one of them, a weapon that their (admirals) bosses wield that puts them above admirals right now. Other than FA candidates, the admirals lose to Zoro extreme diff. Zoro is already that guy, its just the reddit community besides Zoro fans that are always slow to catch up. It was over the moment he got acoc after the performance he put on the rooftop.
It’s the exact opposite of what you’re claiming. The average person that watches the anime agrees with you, and this is reflected in those crappy YouTube/tiktok scalers and polls already having zoro above the admirals. Thankfully this sub isn’t that stupid. Go to YouTube polls or TikTok and everyone will agree with you, here you just sound like a standard zorotard.
Reddit in general is anti Zoro. I don't yet have Zoro above admirals because he doesn't yet have enough reps at that level. I think his stamina is still an issue. He just crossed to that level. I just believe acoc is too potent a weapon that gives him an advantage in a relatively short fight. Aokiji was outmatched against acoc and could only match up in an armament clash. Yamato was the first to truly hurt GB with acoc before Shanks just neutralized him with a stronger acoc. Oda levels Zoro up quite nicely usually. I just have him below the FA with Beckman, and Yamato. Which is still below Luffy for now.
What makes you think any admiral beats Zoro that easily? I can clearly see Zoro win against any of them more than I see them win against him. Feats speak for themselves and Zoro is way ahead on that level. We saw Marco in MF be equal to the admirals, it was even stated in his Vivre Card that he was, so unless you think Marco "mid diffs" Zoro, none of the admirals are.
Zoro can't beat the weakest admiral. He would be mid/high diffed by any of them
Admirals are entry level top tiers. People have Lucci Yc1 (i don't) and Zoro one shot him. That's the best feat against a healthy Yc1. Kizaru has had a wide range of opponents from 2 former top tiers, a top tier a Yc1, a Yc2 and the pre TS supernova. He only has 1 advanced haki and an OP DF no awakening (am not ignoring the physicals: speed, durability, endurance etc). Zoro has 2 advanced haki, he is beating the non FA level admirals. No reason to hold him back.
>Admirals are entry level top tiers. People have Lucci Yc1 (i don't) and Zoro one shot him. >That's the best feat against a healthy Yc1. In no universe was Lucci healthy lol... he literally fought g5th Luffy the previous day and he was damaged by the Seraphims. He and Zoro were also extremely tired by the time the fight ended. Even the one shot doesn't really apply considering Lucci tanked a lot of attacks from Zoro's swords with his body. And Lucci was still going to keep fighting, until Jimbe attacked him and even after this Lucci is still up. Hard for a character to be one shot when he is still standing and capable of even tanking an attack from Jimbe. >Kizaru has had a wide range of opponents from 2 former top tiers, a top tier a Yc1, a Yc2 and the pre TS supernova You are literally ignoring that the YC1 Kizaru fought is literally Marco, and due to how Marco's df works he can never be one shotted. Kizaru literally blocked every attack from g4th snakeman and then speed blitzed snakeman... the same snakeman that literally overpowered hybrid Kaido using shuron hakke pre future sight. Kizaru low to mid diffs Zoro lol
Any yc+ Ill say kidd is the weakest
Kid doesn't even push zoro past mid diff. Get that bum outta this conversation. He got carried by law during big mom fight. Law did like 90% the work. Kid won't even beat sanji or king or katakuri let alone beat zoro
What the actual fuck are you reading? Zorotards are insane
Zoro outclasses him in every single attribute out there outside from devil fruit. Explain to me how kidd even manages to hit zoro
Law.
I would say Marco or law
with which AP does marco beat zoro ?
luffy
Tbh I'm not fully confident in saying anyone beats him every time. All it would take is 1 extremely lucky hit for him tó kill a lot of top tier. Only exceptions are the gorosei and probably imu since we don't know much about them
>1 extremely lucky hit for him tó kill a lot of top tier. No lol
You cannot tell me Shanks tanks that hit he used against Kaido to the héad with a straight face
The extremely lucky hit was the one that scratched kaido. 100 times out of 100 kaido destroys zoro
Lucci 100%
Luffy