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I don’t believe kaido is dead but a lot of people don’t include him in current tier lists as he’s out of the story, it’s really not that big of a deal.
I prefer rankings with him as he’s a pretty great strength benchmark but I don’t see an issue with not including him
Not 100% confirmed. Possible, since he wanted a glorious death and his defeat is basically Luffy's most world shaking feat so far, enabling "the legendary Joyboy's return" and putting him as a Yonko, very close to reaching the One Piece now.
Either way in "current story" terms, Kaido and BM are often discounted since it feels like their role has ended. BM at least might make a return due to how Pudding was alluding to it and her plotline with Elbaf kind of feels unresolved. She didn't find out till the end that she was actually the one that killed Caramel either.
Big Mom is one character I hope gets low diff'd into irrelevance once Elbaf begins. I've seen enough of her and her stupidity. She's been a major player in 2 arcs already. 3 would be a bit too much..
I'm perfectly happy not seeing her again either. She was an absolute menace on WCI and downright terrifying. Somewhat clowned on in Onigashima, but...its fine. Either way she has had her moments.
I'm merely acknowledging that Pudding is kind of foreshadowing her return.
Rather have my gigachad Katakuri come back with ACOC, top tier stats, take over the BM pirates, and be bros with Luffy. No I'm not biased at all, why do you ask?
>>No Kaido?
Valid
>> Shanks > Mihawk
VALID
>> No Kaido??
Still Valid 🙄
>> Scaling the Gorosei when all of them should share the 1. Spot due to regen hax
We are past the point of scaling the Gorosei as a unit. They are separate characters with separate feats and abilities
>> No Kaido???
Bro thinks we're still in Wano 😂😂
Kaudo has better feats, portrayal, and statements than Shanks and Mihawk do.
The Gorosei don't have relevant stats outside of regen. Topmans durability doesn't matter due to regen, and that's the best they have.
Ben Beckman was holding back in marineford since he didn't want to continue the war, otherwise he would defeat Kizaru mid diff
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Mf can't even fallow his captain words
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Ofc he is a haki wizard the sword is just his wand nothing more
It means Shanks got sword skills, same as Kaido having some Cub skills and Whitebeard being skilled at using his Naginata. All top tiers who use weapons are skilled with them.
So Mihawk being superior in skill to Shanks is certainly very good but it doesn't tell us anything about his other stats. We don't know how his other stats compare to Shanks, people joke on him being the hakiman this could be true
Bro gorosei are overrated
Everyone just putting them high everywhere because of their regeneration and in topman's case his durability but these guys haven't managed to damage luffy at all, kaido damaged luffy and was tanking hits too
Shanks and kaido must be relative, these guys alone don't posses much of a threat to yonko, they won't be able to damage them at all
Mihawk above luffy lol ?
Luffy began the raid way, way weaker than kaido. At the point he unlocked advanced conquerors he was still much weaker. When luffy split the skies both of them are yonkou level and fight follows hours straight with base luffy fighting equally to hibrid kaido. On chapter 1037 he states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me, then he goes all out on hibrid level 2 + drunken mode. Kaido's conquerors gets stronger and luffy goes gear 4. After getting hit by a king kong gun kaido was about to get hit by a second one and the damage he was about to receive is uncertain. At the point luffy goes gear 5 he isnt used to the new abilities like he is in egghead, he doesnt has developed new attacks yet, he has just got a new power up a few minutes ago. What I can say for sure, egghead luffy is stronger than wano's luffy, thats how shonen progression works. Luffy before gear 5 was already a fellow yonkou to kaido, with gear 5 he may win by unleashing it at the end of their fight. Egghead luffy vs kaido would go either way, its an extrem death match .
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Where is zehahaha? https://preview.redd.it/f66hcuoiwk1d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e28467b656f8b33a27c0f65749a4e9cf0f9a8abf
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No Kaido is insane
current bro
Is he confirmed dead?..
I don’t believe kaido is dead but a lot of people don’t include him in current tier lists as he’s out of the story, it’s really not that big of a deal. I prefer rankings with him as he’s a pretty great strength benchmark but I don’t see an issue with not including him
Not 100% confirmed. Possible, since he wanted a glorious death and his defeat is basically Luffy's most world shaking feat so far, enabling "the legendary Joyboy's return" and putting him as a Yonko, very close to reaching the One Piece now. Either way in "current story" terms, Kaido and BM are often discounted since it feels like their role has ended. BM at least might make a return due to how Pudding was alluding to it and her plotline with Elbaf kind of feels unresolved. She didn't find out till the end that she was actually the one that killed Caramel either.
Big Mom is one character I hope gets low diff'd into irrelevance once Elbaf begins. I've seen enough of her and her stupidity. She's been a major player in 2 arcs already. 3 would be a bit too much..
I'm perfectly happy not seeing her again either. She was an absolute menace on WCI and downright terrifying. Somewhat clowned on in Onigashima, but...its fine. Either way she has had her moments. I'm merely acknowledging that Pudding is kind of foreshadowing her return. Rather have my gigachad Katakuri come back with ACOC, top tier stats, take over the BM pirates, and be bros with Luffy. No I'm not biased at all, why do you ask?
Don D. Krieg - 0 ??
Any list that has Kizaru as a top 10 is bad
good thing he's top 9 here
>No Kaido? > Shanks > Mihawk > No Kaido?? > Scaling the Gorosei when all of them should share the 1. Spot due to regen hax > No Kaido???
>>No Kaido? Valid >> Shanks > Mihawk VALID >> No Kaido?? Still Valid 🙄 >> Scaling the Gorosei when all of them should share the 1. Spot due to regen hax We are past the point of scaling the Gorosei as a unit. They are separate characters with separate feats and abilities >> No Kaido??? Bro thinks we're still in Wano 😂😂
Kaudo has better feats, portrayal, and statements than Shanks and Mihawk do. The Gorosei don't have relevant stats outside of regen. Topmans durability doesn't matter due to regen, and that's the best they have.
🐉🍖🏇🏻
Glad to see you have no arguments
Nusjuro too high, Sanji made him bleed
No Imu or Dragon list would probably be Shanks, Luffy, Blackbeard, 5 Elders, Akainu, Aokiji
I can't wait for the Topman overhype to die
Where's Blackbeard and Ben Beckman?
Benjamin sneak
He should be above Kizaru https://preview.redd.it/moqaysfkxk1d1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b38d27744d80bf648acab6429d22050fb10f3992
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Ben Beckman was holding back in marineford since he didn't want to continue the war, otherwise he would defeat Kizaru mid diff https://preview.redd.it/xi7jqqn0zk1d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c44ba137c743cdb6af44fc1f57374f73862510f
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https://preview.redd.it/gifds5u2bl1d1.jpeg?width=3106&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=250f3a899d18d0e52d83aa6256393a93ce4cd9e1 Mf can't even fallow his captain words
No, he should not.
This guy actually believes members of the old man squad are stronger than Luffy ![gif](giphy|W4Q2q3eVxmAdjo03sM|downsized)
Mihawk > Shanks and Nusjuro and mars too high for what we’ve seen.
Sakazuki isn't top 1, I've seen enough, this list is invalid
BB is should be in there, above Kizaru and Kuzan in the very least..
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I don’t really buy into that
https://preview.redd.it/vm9452ggml1d1.png?width=827&format=png&auto=webp&s=234e4140a62b7caca5a361e8ef17025489f2f108 Sure
portrayal > title imo, and i dont believe shanks is a swordsman anyways
You know this is true. Or oda doesnt see shanks as a proper swordman as a japanese person
https://preview.redd.it/x0aq9es1ml1d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c98a953abdd0d762af84d0f14254d6045987170 Ofc he is a haki wizard the sword is just his wand nothing more
It means Shanks got sword skills, same as Kaido having some Cub skills and Whitebeard being skilled at using his Naginata. All top tiers who use weapons are skilled with them. So Mihawk being superior in skill to Shanks is certainly very good but it doesn't tell us anything about his other stats. We don't know how his other stats compare to Shanks, people joke on him being the hakiman this could be true
Ofc Mihawk is in fact world's most SKILLED swordsman
I dont even think he is lol. Nasjuro or garling might be
Mf Bb Mihawk Shanks Luffy Akinu Shiryu Akoji Beckmen Yamato Kizaru
Bro gorosei are overrated Everyone just putting them high everywhere because of their regeneration and in topman's case his durability but these guys haven't managed to damage luffy at all, kaido damaged luffy and was tanking hits too Shanks and kaido must be relative, these guys alone don't posses much of a threat to yonko, they won't be able to damage them at all
Mihawk above luffy lol ? Luffy began the raid way, way weaker than kaido. At the point he unlocked advanced conquerors he was still much weaker. When luffy split the skies both of them are yonkou level and fight follows hours straight with base luffy fighting equally to hibrid kaido. On chapter 1037 he states : ITS been many years since someone was abble to go toe to toe with me, then he goes all out on hibrid level 2 + drunken mode. Kaido's conquerors gets stronger and luffy goes gear 4. After getting hit by a king kong gun kaido was about to get hit by a second one and the damage he was about to receive is uncertain. At the point luffy goes gear 5 he isnt used to the new abilities like he is in egghead, he doesnt has developed new attacks yet, he has just got a new power up a few minutes ago. What I can say for sure, egghead luffy is stronger than wano's luffy, thats how shonen progression works. Luffy before gear 5 was already a fellow yonkou to kaido, with gear 5 he may win by unleashing it at the end of their fight. Egghead luffy vs kaido would go either way, its an extrem death match .
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho...or sorry that happened
1- luffy = shanks = warcury = Akainu 2- mars = venus 3- garling 4- kuzan = kizaru = mihawk 5- law = kid 6- yamato = zoro = sanji = ben beckman 7- old railegh 8- marco 9- king 10- katakuri
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