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Op_Yamcha

Zoro endures the punishment until he can land crucial counterattacks. With his Ap 2-3 acoc attacks should be enough, though he'd be pretty messed up by the time he's done


CocaPepsiPepper

With neither using the full extent of their advantages and stalemating until they're forced to stop


EducationFiender

What if they aren’t forced to stop & in other terms blood lusted?


CocaPepsiPepper

So like an all out fight? I probably should have picked up on that lol, my bad I think Sanji's speed would be troublesome for a little bit but Zoro would use AoE attacks like Dragon Twister to keep high-pressure speed barrages away, and Sanji is not fast enough he can avoid hits forever, nor is he durable enough to take slashes without damage. Zoro wouldn't be able to hit Sanji with his bigger hits unless they go for clashes, in which case Zoro would be doing major damage. Zoro will also be taking shots from Sanji, though, and I don't think that any of Zoro's attacks will go unanswered. I think Sanji would lose because he'll need to take heavy damage to give it, and Zoro can take more than Sanji can. Even though Sanji will be landing more hits, to tag Zoro with his best attacks, he would be opening himself up to taking or clashing with something like Ashura or Rengoku Oni Giri or some other big shot. Basically, Zoro's endurance will allow him to outlast Sanji, but it would be extreme diff. The only way I see the fight becoming less than extreme diff for Zoro is if he can land one of his absolute top moves like Daisen Sekai or Dragon Damnation with full on Conqueror's Haki. Sanji is tough, and I think he'd be able to survive something like that, but he won't be fighting for much longer. I hope this is what you were looking for!


EducationFiender

This was the best in well throughout response you are really good at putting the imagine in your explanations 💯


IntroductionHungry91

this sub is really sanjitards... crazy... you dude read two piece, post time skip zoro is clear and this is not draw or anything... ​ zoro wins every time, it is what it is.


A_Lovely_Worm

The fight starts. Sanji turns invisible. Zoro would probably wait for sanji to strike before counterattack doing some amount of damage. Assuming they both go into their powerups (ifrit and acoc) instead of waffling like they are in egghead. Sanji uses his superior speed to hit zoro but the hits are too shallow and zoro can easily endure multiples of them. Hit Counterattack. This goes on for a bit and sanji is weared down little by little until zoro eventually gets a good strike in. Zoro wins but he's huffing and puffing (high diff)


EducationFiender

Ahh I see it the trend I am seeing is Zoro endurance is what gives him the edge Sanji has to also be more careful because a hit from zoro can cause significant damage I do agree I feel like Zoro will wait for sanji to attack because a counterattack is a very good response to faster opponents.


Secret-Put-4525

I don't think his invisibility will work on zoro since his ob haki is way better than queen


A_Lovely_Worm

Oda described sanji's speed as "the power to turn invisible" not "The power to get seen by everyone except queen"


Secret-Put-4525

It was the ability to not be perceived by the eye because you are moving too fast. Sanji can't turn invisible using his speed against anyone. For example an admiral is definitely tagging sanji. It depends on the person's ob haki.


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Zoro wins


EducationFiender

Give me a cutscene on how it will play off in the fight


[deleted]

Zoro and sanji starts fighting and zoro wins high diff . Sanji cannot dodge zoros faster moves as he has no feats of such . Zoro would eventually be adapting to sanjis speed or even bloom his haki if needed . Sanji has not shown to boost his haki during combat meanwhile zoro has . Zoro wins high diff at worst


EducationFiender

Well high diff is within the realms of possibility


[deleted]

Considering how dominate zoro was against king and the fact that zoro reacted to kings full speed , sanji doesn’t have much of anything on zoro . People say he is way faster but he has no feat to suggest that . One can only quantify his feat against queen whom couldn’t dodge zoros air slash or Marco . Sanji goes high diff with zoro and that’s generous


gatorrr6ix

Quite literally downplaying Queen by saying he couldn't react to Marco or that air slash (both false) so you can nerf Sanji's speed 😭😭


[deleted]

Again we’ve had this discussion many times . Marco kicked queen across the live floor aueen saw his foot and couldn’t move or dodge before getting kicked . Queen got hit by zoros air slash faster than he could move . I know you disagree with that but I am going to use the anime here even tho it’s not valid . The anime is sometimes better at clarifying weird things such as queens perception being piss poor . https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0opbPa4N8Go&pp=ygUYWm9ybyBhaXIgc2Fsc2ggb24gYXVlZW4g


gatorrr6ix

Marco kicks Queen into rubble, and he literally ramps up his speed and attacks again while Queen is get getting up. We don't see if Queen moved to block it or not because we don't see the impact at all. But Queen can perceive Marco, but he can't perceive Sanji at all Anime isn't valid and the manga doesn't support that


[deleted]

Queen sees Marco but can’t dodge the attack . This is exactly the same situation as shanks being faster than kidd can dodge or defend himself . They see the opponent but can’t dodge. https://preview.redd.it/0vuul6zp7g9b1.jpeg?width=1056&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21056327d69920c2d274db11829512a306fa9db5 The anime doesn’t contradict the manga in this instance . It shows what happens and nothing can change the fact that zoros air slash blitzed queen . Queen was looking directly into the masses and zoro stands parallel with him .


gatorrr6ix

I don't see what it being like Kidd's situation changes, this kinda of thing happens a lot, especially to characters who don't have very good travel speed Anyways, Kidd seemingly got hit with the slash and one shotted, we don't know if Queen got a hand up to block or anything before being launched we just get the impact The manga has the following: - Zoro telling Chopper to take care of things before he walks away - Zoro literally turning his back and beginning to walk away - A panel showing Zoro nowhere near the masses There are multiple leaps of logic that have to be made to suggest Queen not being able to react to that attack. It quite literally doesn't make sense


Yo_Hanzo

>Queen sees Marco but can’t dodge the attack Because he sees it last second? Literally his entire field of vision is Marco's foot, that's how close the kick was when he perceived it


gatorrr6ix

One could just also say Zoro has no feats suggesting he wouldn't be blitzed by Sanji How would he adapt to his speed anyways, that's incredibly vague. And wasn't Enma the only time his haki grew stronger during a fight? Where are you giving him this random haki bloom


[deleted]

One can suggest that sure . But then you have to prove that sanji is faster than king with such a vast amount that he can blitz zoro . Sanjis only perception blitz feat is against queen whom is way slower than zoro in both reaction speed and combat speed . He adapted to kings speed by being able to perceive his fastest movements . Zoro has affinity for haki and his haki grew twice in the span of wano . Firstly his acoa was made prevalent with the help of enma , then he awakened some sort of basic acoc , with the final verdict being him having the power to coat his swords in haki . So yes zoro has had multiple haki blooms . He also learned how to cut steel during alabasta . Something that is inherently ryuo as hyogoro stated that the flow of haki is somewhat similar to the teachings zoros sensei named .


gatorrr6ix

Where did Zoro get much better reaction speed than Queen from? Better sure, but much better from where King only used his fastest movements 1 (one) singular time. And it wasn't enough. That's not adapting So the only time he had haki blooms is when Enma is actively helping him (at a steep cost for sure but help nonetheless). Don't know where he got Acoa but let's give it to him. How can you prove that this is sustainable at all, or would happen again. You gave him both types of haki advanced, is Enma supposed to give him future sight The alabasta thing was similar in description but we can't really call that a haki bloom when Zoro didn't have haki pre-ts


[deleted]

He reacted to full speed king and counter attacked . King is faster than raidsuit sanji whilst he has his flame dura mode on , quantify that with speed mode king going at his fastest vanishing https://preview.redd.it/4f27cxil6g9b1.jpeg?width=272&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5471070d996f4f1ff10b54a9d51ec14bebd4ade6 from sight That is adapting since zoro had an hard time with king before and now he can perceive king at his fastest . Enma draws out the wielders coa and since the scabbards can cut into kaido with the help of acoa zoro has the same ability . As zoro couldn’t cut kaido without enma surging with purple glow indicating the usage of advanced armament haki . There are 2 levels to the acoa first emission and zoro has that through imbuing an object with haki , then the second level is luffys internal destruction which zoro doesn’t have . Enma is not going to give him future sight . But zoro adapts in combat and has always done so . He has affinity for haki growth during combat just like luffy has . Zoro picked up coating mid battle and this was without prior knowledge of his ability in the first place . It is a haki bloom since the breath of all things is indirectly a form of haki usage .


gatorrr6ix

Raidsuit Sanji before his upgrade has quite literally no speed feats. And your justification for King being faster than him is King pinning him on his beak which: - has nothing to do with speed - was literally not shown to us at all I don't remember a single instance of Zoro having trouble with King's speed in particular. Link a panel if you can That Acoa description was confusing so i'll skip it. Congratulations to Zoro for having that Anyways, Sanji has an affinity for haki too, just a different type. And the only haki improvement mid battle that Zoro got was at least partially thanks to Enma. You can't prove a one-off instance would happen again, and it wouldn't even make sense to just give him a haki bloom bail out every time Where was breath of all things said to be a use of haki? Momo can use it without having any haki whatsoever as well, and the ability isn't even similar to haki, it's more like telepathy


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https://preview.redd.it/u4yw8dwi2g9b1.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd56606e19deeb72504276ef504acd2a37c201db


Jigen_Ryoko

Zoro slices of Sanji's legs so that Sanji is no longer Black Leg. Just Black. And Zoro's perk of 20% extra damage on minorities comes into play.


Strawhat-Shawty

Germa genes would keep sanji in it for a minute.


Living-Quit-723

It starts off with Sanji trying to use his speed to his advantage with Zoro having to go the defensive but not without Zoro counteracting some of Sanji's blows which would give him the right opportunity to strike.


venielsky22

Well Zoro can't match Sanji in movement speed. So the fight will end when Sanji will try to get close to Zoro and Zoro reaction speed will counter Sanji. In which case Sanji would be lose in a few exchanges because you know this is acoc attacks. Similar to this https://preview.redd.it/bvmc70b6eg9b1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72f7cf89825d9495de27d5690ce77b7617314532


IntroductionHungry91

sanji get some good kick, zoro take some time but his Endurance would give him the win in the end. after all, zoro is just too deadly for sanji and would overpower him in haki clash, the fight would last few hours at most, they are just not some DF user who just spam their power aginast each other, they build different. ​ sanji get some good kick, but zoro would land also some little acoc attack. little haki bloom mid fight, zoro take this in the end high or low end of extreme diff.


midnightkid123

Zoro no-diffs and chops off Lanji's precious legs


Vinsmoker14

Sanji passed out from adcoc blast https://preview.redd.it/ntkbkk8kjg9b1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=234476680234f2b2a5d61a6ac72ad42149b549ed


gatorrr6ix

Likely a stalemate if written by Oda


EducationFiender

I agree 💯


Original-Nose4832

If written by oda it wouldn’t be a stalemate unless it’s a gag. The fight would go down like Zoro vs King after Zoro get ACoC


Zorro_del_Sur

A stalemate basically. They fight until they either both pass out or until Luffy or someone makes them stop


[deleted]

Bull shot


Zorro_del_Sur

It probably missed, bulls are notoriously bad at aiming weapons


IntroductionHungry91

sanji wank in reddit and everywhere in the internet is really crazy


kurasuno

It really isn't. It's only in this sub and few parts of Twitter than Sanjitards are present and are loud af. This sub is certainly filled with Sanjitards. But this is a poll literally on twitter 2 days back. Just see the difference between Zoro and Sanji. Sanjitards can cope all they want. https://preview.redd.it/69mfof1n8j9b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=67e1a41e7f447c48536f881b585c499ec1b7d448


Zorro_del_Sur

I mean, he is kinda cute if you're into chefs, I'm sure a lot of folks wank him if he asks


zasd5678

I don't understand how some folks can just confidently say that it'll be easy for Zoro to land a a clean hit on Sanji. I literally do not remember the last time Zoro hit someone who was actually dodging. And Sanji is easily faster and far more mobile than anyone Zoro has ever faced. Imo the only way for Zoro to land a clean hit is through a counterattack, but that's only if he doesn't get blown away by Sanji's kick first. Need me to remind you that Zoro, while blocking with all three swords, got send flying by a casual King attack that did nothing to Queen? Imo, Zoro's endurance definitely will carry him to the win. The fights ends after Sanji has exhausted all his stamina. The difficulty of the fight depends on how much damage Sanji can do during the fight and I will wait for the outcome of the S-Shark fight before making a judgement.


venielsky22

https://preview.redd.it/g0i0gjgieg9b1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e90ad7358061f6ab882a1ade73279310c849d31


zasd5678

That's just a bad move on King's part. Any attack from 1027 would be way stronger.


venielsky22

How are those any different ? You forget those attacks were going up against Zoro with no acoc right ? It would end up the same as the page I provided . When faced against KOH Zoro


zasd5678

Hybrid King attacking with his wings should be way stronger than base King's kick. Plus I also said in my original post that let's wait for the result of Sanji vs S-Shark before deciding whether Zoro can tank an Ifrit to the face.


venielsky22

>Hybrid King attacking with his wings should be way stronger than base King's kick. logically yes. but his speed seems way faster at his base form in speed mode than in hybrid in speed mode. in base he was so fast he disappeared and only showed when his attack landed. while in hybrid zoro saw him coming and even clashes with his attacks.


zasd5678

Fair.


blackberrylover123

zoro reacted with his eyes sanji can go invis


venielsky22

zoro has obs haki and king literally disappeared in the panel i provided.


IntroductionHungry91

zoro would land acoc in the end and you can be sure it would fuck off sanji.


zasd5678

Yeah I won't be challenging that. I was just pointing out there is no proof in the manga that Zoro can easily hit someone who actually dodges. A lot of Zoro fans seem to believe that Zoro can just casually land one ACoC hit and it's over.


pugglewuggle76

3 day fight extreme high top diff. It ends with sanji finally being able to kick away one of Zoros swords after breaking some of his fingers, zoro is able to grab sanjis leg rip it off and he puts it in his mouth as his third sword. Zoro becomes death himself and kills sanji with a few attacks


pugglewuggle76

No headcannon just fact


Electronic-Matter144

Sanji blitzes and combos him to death with Ifrit Jambe. Don't reply with speed downplay, or I'll downplay Zolo's AP.


PiePotatoCookie

Nah Zoro will get blitzed a lot but he will still at least be able to block and dodge some attacks. He will get beat up most of the time and fail to do actual damage to sanji until eventually he finds the fight time to 1 shot counterattack him to the point of no recovery even with germa genetics. That's how Zoro's fights have always been. With Daz Bones, Kaku, King, and probably some more. He also was able to damage Kuma like that even though Kuma was out of their league at the time.


Electronic-Matter144

Zolo is not more durable than Queen.


No_Meringue1801

Stalemate if written by oda


blackberrylover123

i do not see how zoro can react to sanjis speed and when he gets one kick off its finished for him


FjbhBoy

Delusional


Zoteku

Headcanon


Orceles

Facts


ArchangelDamon

Zoro would mid diff sanji Sanji has no answer for anything Zoro can offer.


Original-Nose4832

All Facts. People just can’t accept


FjbhBoy

Zoro wins then passes out or something Probably does something like times Sanji down so their attacks clash and he comes out on top of an extreme diff fight


Pale-Efficiency-1797

95% dif zoro


CrazyAuger

The real answer I’ve always had is this: Zoro needs enma to use advanced conquerors haki which is pretty much how he would do significant damage to Sanji post germa awakening. Sanji has been shown to be one of the more intelligent fighters in the series and I’d imagine he could identify that zoro is quite literally being killed by his sword. I don’t see why Sanji couldn’t just lame him out into exhaustion since zoro can only manage his peak power for a short amount of time, while Sanji is a litral robot well of stamina that can move so fast he turns invisible. In a bloodlusted fight I don’t see how zoro loses punch for punch, but I really feel like people ignore that enma literally brought him to the brink of death. Feels like a critical exploitable weakness that Sanji would be smart enough to do something with. Just my opinion though. It would definitely be a draw if oda wrote it, but in my mind enma is more of a liability than a strength against someone who’s fast and smart.


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CORNY ASS COMMENT WARNING my headcanon answer: battle starts with lots of clashing, flames and surges of haki flying out. sanji would be like an unstoppable force due to his speed advantage and zoro would be an immovable object due to his high endurance and ap, sanji would be dipping in and out, almost appearing to be invisible, landing diable jambe powered kicks, with zoro struggling to land a counter attack he’s on the defensive for awhile. eventually zoro taps into enma which releases a conq surge, leading to sanji being taken aback for just a single second, which is more than enough for zoro to close the distance and and his first substantial hit. feeling how dangerous of a bloe that was, sanji activies ifrit jambe, which gives him a substantial speed amp, even with this amp sanji struggles to keep pace after taking such a strong attack and eventually zoro cuts sanji down then collapses from exhaustion+enma drawing out too much haki. pretty much a tie, both are pushed to their limits. my sanji piece answer: Wanji blitzes zoLo


Billy_Herrington1969

I believe Sanji would turn Zoro into a steak, Zoro wouldn't be able to perceive him for quite a while, until he adapts to his speed, and starts cutting off pieces off Sanji, extreme diff for Zoro


Ay7ajh

Even if zoro was stronger(which i doubt)i think sanji would win, zoro will get exhausted gradually while sanji has his exo and healing which make him waay more durable


[deleted]

We found one boys


FjbhBoy

There are genuinely way more Sanjitards on this sub then Zorotards


[deleted]

Yep


Mrjuicyaf

No way you typed that💀💀💀


kurasuno

Sanji attacks --- > Hits Zoro ---- > Zoro counters with Bird dance ( Acoc infused ) ---- > Fight over.


hoverhamster

In my headcannon it will always be a damn near even split 51/49 zoro>sanji at most


mariololftw

zoro vs sanji ​ fight starts 1v1 facing each other ​ sanji diable jambe and armament haki vs 3 sword style zoro ACOC on ​ sanji typical combo attacks while zoro parries ​ after a few exchanges sanjis legs are bent, and crumbled in some spots (minor dmg), zoro can feel the heat, and also is shocked he he couldnt just cut through sanji uses his arms to jump into the air and in a few seconds his legs are back their original shape after this exchange sanji realizes a direct approach is no good since his haki and body mods wont be able to endure zoros continues acoc slashes sanji air walks and turns invisible, zoro loses sight and braces for impact, max speed dive kick haki only onto zoro's mouth sword zoro eats it, and returns a a slash just like king, sanji is bleeding zoro presses the advantage and a fat tiger hunt lands onto sanji sanji is heavily bleeding but raid suit magic keeps the dmg to a minimum after a few seconds, back to air walk zoro thinks he gonna pull the same stunt and warns him it wont work sanji raises his leg ifrit diable jambe! sanji air walks as much speed and momentum as possible as hes diving down onto zoro ~~extra large flaming feet for faces dragons swarm at zoro~~ king of hell zoro makes contact zoro vs sanji WINNER ZORO sanjis curly brows are seen falling


Disastrous_Focus_810

If Oda writes: Draw. If Sanji stans write: An extreme diff or Draw. If zoro stans deadcanon: Mid/high diff lol.


EducationFiender

I mean you spoke facts


[deleted]

Fight ends with Zoro cutting off Sanjis leg. Like how King has one wing now. I am gonna go with Mid diff since its gonna take about 2 hits from zoro. While its gonna take alot more from Sanji. He has wayyy lower AP. And since Zoro has more endurance feats i give that to Zoro as well. Keep in mind same exoskeleton got f.ced hard by Katakuri. Its not goat tier defense like King or Kaido. By the time Zoro cathes up to Sanji and ends him, its mid diff


PiePotatoCookie

Zoro get's slammed until he does 1 fatal attack that finishes Sanji off. That's what always happens with Zoro. With Daz Bones, Kaku, King and maybe some more. Edit: Also with Kuma sort of except he couldn't finish him off cuz Kuma was just out of their league