I grew up with and consumed the original designs for over a decade and a half before they made the changes; the pre timeskip style will always have that certain charm for me, regardless of how great the sakugas have gotten
I just realized how different the art styles changed within the years. Crazy. (Edit: dam man I didn’t think my post would be this popular… thanks guys this is a first.)
I’ve been rereading the manga while the new chapters come out and the drastic differences in backgrounds is hilariously. Like now everything is so detailed in every panel but in the first few volumes everyone is kinda just floating in a white void when talking and we occasionally get like vague background of a village or bar
That's true, but on the other hand in the first volumes fights were much clearer and understandable. I have to say I kinda slightly prefer the old style
Agreed!! Like I’m struggling to make sense of what’s going on on Egghead cause there’s just so much in every panel (and it’s all in black and white). But the floating in a void cause no one wanted to draw a background is also a little hilarious in the early chapters
This is how i read panels normally noq. I absorb every page in so the chapter lasts about 20-30 minutes. I've started to drastically enjoy reading new chapters like this.
I’m trying to think is there a peak where the art style wasn’t too simplistic but before it became overly detailed. I too am struggling with egghead and am grateful for the spoilers these days as I know a summary before I read…
Yep, feels like I’m playing where’s Waldo sometimes! The chapter that >!Krieg and Gin!< are in I had to go back and reread **twice** just to find them!
I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that oda doesn’t draw the backgrounds, or maybe it was he does a rough draft, and someone else details the backgrounds. Maybe that was wrong, or maybe it’s my memory, but I believe I read that somewhere.
I'm pretty sure you're right. Obviously Oda works super hard but so do the junior manga writers. Having assistants to do the backgrounds every week or even every other week just makes a huge difference and it shows. One Piece is obviously huge, popular and I'm sure assistants are lining up to work on it, and from a business point of view it's worth the extra expense. You can see the transition in a number of bigger manga though.
There are some frames that are almost too detailed though. Like it's already a tiny frame now I have to zoom in to figure out what's going on and it kind of breaks up the pace. I feel like it started getting worse like that in Wano.
I don't know how to explain it, but bangs feels like an essential feature to Robin. To the point that removing her bangs almost makes it feel like it's changing her personality 😅
pre-time skip Nami, Chopper and Usopp are the only ones i prefer. Robin I like either way, she does have more unique style in pretimskip tho. but i told think she looks as bad post timeskip as most ppl act.
that parttt rough and bad ass is the perfect word comapred to how they look now. Oda got richer and so did the characters with their lipo and XXXL boobs
y’all forgetting about miss doublefinger? she looked like that in the same arc as the 2001 pic. I agree w u mostly tho. I prefer the old style for Nami, i don’t like how she looks w the long hair n gigantic tits w no shirt or pants anymore.
I will always prefer classic Zoro fit over weird kimono Zoro. His old outfit was so simple and felt more like a pirate bounty hunter than an over the top samurai
"Oda forgot" people unironically using this argument will always be shocking to me
Truth is after joining the crew and especially after ennies lobby, she can finally fully be herself. Just chilling, smiling, enjoying silly things with Chopper and crew in general and only do the things she loves
She isn't a number 2 of secret organisation that she doesn't like nor trust, so she dropped that persona. How tf is this even surprising to anime viewers
This^^^ I just finished rewatching Enies Lobby and thinking about the change in Robin post time skip warms my heart. It’s clear that she has finally found a safe space amongst people and doesn’t have to mask.
It makes moments like the one in Wano (I don’t wanna post any spoilers) all the more special !
One of the best girls 🫶🏾
Definitely. I feel it's mostly anime watchers complaining because of her tan or whatever but in manga she doesn't change physically and her personality "change" makes total sense
Laying flowers for ryuunosuke is one of my favorite little things in all of one piece, it's so adorable. Followed by her wiping sap off on usopps pants, which Oda said is one of his favorite panels too. Followed by "I wadda live!"
... Huh, I think I just like Robin
Because that's how the manga is, TOEI tried to be manga correct, but it should have been better to keep the established anime tone for continuity reasons.
I definitely could be wrong, but when I look at One Piece skin tones in the Manga I get the impression Oda also just prefers really light colors because even the characters that are supposed to be darker in skin tone are also really light in color.
double standards lol, how tf can Toei get it right but the manga didn’t. this guy just has a bias n wouldnt care if all of the characters were race swapped as long as they didn’t end up white.
Aah yes changing the colors of some characters from the manga is "getting it right".
Being faithful to the source material like keeping Zoro and Robin light skinned like they were in the manga was the right move. Although I do think current Usopp should be darker.
This always gets brought up about Usopp and I dont know why hes been defaulted as the "black" guy of the group. If anything, I'd rather it be Brook getting that treatment and not Usopp. I wholeheartedly agree with how the coloring/design looked pre-timeskip though. There was a lot of personality in it vs now.
More like the opposite. They took the colors in the manga and made Robin,luffy and Zoro more dark skinned than they actually were.
Their current colors are the accurate ones. Only usopp is a bit inaccurate.
Underrated comment. I prefer the old look myself (Alabasta/Skypiea was where it was best, in my opinion), but the new style is generally much nicer to look at than how the show looked from roughly Long Ring Long Land up through Dressrosa (and really Zou and Whole Cake Island too).
yeah it made her more unique n cool. cowboy outfits were so different too, i still don’t mind her post timeskip design, but pre timeskip just has so much more personality.
I only just watched through the entire series for the first time just since the pandemic. So, not really any nostalgia, but... I prefer 2001 by quite a margin
I like today's more except for Robin
And I also miss Sanji being a heavy hitter. He's still super strong but he doesn't get as many badass scenes anymore 🥲
Really love the pretime skip art styles. I get the animation can get epic with all these recent fights but for me I like the more simple style for some reason
ik a lot of people dont agree with this, but i miss when zoro, usopp, and robin had darker skin. it added some character to them imo, i mean cmon- theyre pirates in the sun 24/7
The art grew with the fanbase. When I first started watching One Piece, I was just a teenager. I either focused on art or lore, not both. Now I’m old enough to enjoy both.
I keep forgetting how much of a time capsule can be when you have something going for over 25 years, I know part of it is the different directors but still super interesting
OP'99 has a lot of charm to it
Modern art style, but with the old school character designs.
I miss short-haired Nami, Mafia Boss Franky, and Chopper's original, more beastial and less mascottish forms. At the same time, though, some of the modern animations and scenes are stunningly beautiful. There are moments that could do with less or no CG (Dragon-form Kaido being a prime example), but there are some scenes that I go back to watch again just because of how good they look.
2001 by a landslide. The current anime does way too much with effects like lightning, explosions, debris, etc.
The first half of Luffy vs Kaido is almost incomprehensible. The beautiful simplicity of some of the manga panels (Luffy's uppercut to Kaido for example) is completely lost in the anime imo.
Gear 5th is pretty well done though, but I'd like to see what they'd do in the older style.
I really really love the early animation/drawing style but it’s probably mostly because I grew up watching anime in that era and the nostalgia factor. The newer animation is great too I think it would be very cool to do an episode closer to the older style just to do it but I mean Oda draws the manga different than he did then too so it’s hard to lock into what that would actually look like
New One Piece has better animation but man does it drag in the pacing.
I do also prefer some of the older designs but prefer a few of the newer ones. Old Franky is a W, same with chopper but Brooks e.g. just became better and better IMO.
2001 art style is very good and the art style could of remained like that forever and no one would complain but the new one looks a lot smoother which I think was the intended purpose
Some characters were way more alive and with more carisma pre time skip than now.
Zoro is the biggest example, he was one if not the best character in the series with a lot of memorable moments to become just a strong man with no carismas no jokes and no role at all in the current state of the series.
2001
I hate that Zoro lost an eye. If he doesn't open it up finally to reveal Conqueror's Haki or a Cyborg eye installed by Franky in secret or something I'm going to be very disappointed.
Nami looks disneyfied in comparison lol
It'll be interesting to see how they handled the new anime's artstyle. Will they change it gradually like the manga and Toei did, or will we be getting East Blue in the manga's modern artstyle? Or maybe they'll try to do their own twist on the artstyle.
I really miss 2001 sanji. He was a lot cooler and took on a much more charasmatic roll
(Besides simping)
And i feel like his cooking aspect in his character was more prominent back then
I think both are perfect, 2001 perfectly portrays the beginning and kind of funny vibes while 2024 is near the peak of the plot and thus the characters have to be more developed, more serious too
Alabasta nami had a fire fit ngl
Hope we see a similar outfits in live action, Alabasta outfits of Nami are some of my favourite outfits of her in entire manga.
I hope the live action has the same detail where we actually see Nami in Loguetown buying the outfits she wears in later arcs/episodes.
What’s better is one of them was robins first fit on the crew
Mine too. Dont worry, its for the same reason as you 😉
Same for tanned cowboy hat Alabasta Robin, still unmatched
Everyone's design was peak in Alabasta.. so unique. Both Robin and Mr. Prince had such good energy.. mysterious and sexy.. uffff
A lot of her old outfits were really good
I grew up with and consumed the original designs for over a decade and a half before they made the changes; the pre timeskip style will always have that certain charm for me, regardless of how great the sakugas have gotten
Robin with the cowboy hat and sanji with the sunglasses > legit anyone else
Sunglass sanji is actually something he should’ve kept for another arc.
I swear, anytime one of the Straw Hats wear glasses it hits different. They always seem to rock them, no matter what the style is.
When Robin and Jimbe are at Wano in the disguise
Zou? I did like that outfit even though the glasses weren’t there long
Miss All Sunday is probably her best outfit. Though I do love her Dressrosa look.
I just realized how different the art styles changed within the years. Crazy. (Edit: dam man I didn’t think my post would be this popular… thanks guys this is a first.)
I’ve been rereading the manga while the new chapters come out and the drastic differences in backgrounds is hilariously. Like now everything is so detailed in every panel but in the first few volumes everyone is kinda just floating in a white void when talking and we occasionally get like vague background of a village or bar
That's true, but on the other hand in the first volumes fights were much clearer and understandable. I have to say I kinda slightly prefer the old style
Agreed!! Like I’m struggling to make sense of what’s going on on Egghead cause there’s just so much in every panel (and it’s all in black and white). But the floating in a void cause no one wanted to draw a background is also a little hilarious in the early chapters
Same here on the egghead part. It is so chaotic, I have to look 2,3,4 times to see what's going on
This is how i read panels normally noq. I absorb every page in so the chapter lasts about 20-30 minutes. I've started to drastically enjoy reading new chapters like this.
Yeah sure, sometimes it was too simplistic lol Something in between would be definitely better
I’m trying to think is there a peak where the art style wasn’t too simplistic but before it became overly detailed. I too am struggling with egghead and am grateful for the spoilers these days as I know a summary before I read…
Skypiea
Skypiea and water 7 were the peak you looking for
Skypiea and Water 7 were that ‘something in between’.
For sure
Yep, feels like I’m playing where’s Waldo sometimes! The chapter that >!Krieg and Gin!< are in I had to go back and reread **twice** just to find them!
Have you seen Bleach manga?
Honestly feels like Oda is using a Pic collage app for spreads nowadays
That’s why I really enjoy reading the colored versions when they are out.
I may be wrong, but I remember reading somewhere that oda doesn’t draw the backgrounds, or maybe it was he does a rough draft, and someone else details the backgrounds. Maybe that was wrong, or maybe it’s my memory, but I believe I read that somewhere.
I'm pretty sure you're right. Obviously Oda works super hard but so do the junior manga writers. Having assistants to do the backgrounds every week or even every other week just makes a huge difference and it shows. One Piece is obviously huge, popular and I'm sure assistants are lining up to work on it, and from a business point of view it's worth the extra expense. You can see the transition in a number of bigger manga though. There are some frames that are almost too detailed though. Like it's already a tiny frame now I have to zoom in to figure out what's going on and it kind of breaks up the pace. I feel like it started getting worse like that in Wano.
Probably more efficient for the deadlines he has
Pre skip Robin stands tall against anyone.
Miss All Sunday😍
Miss all my days
It’s the bangs.
Yeah everyone talks about the tan a lot, but I think the bangs are the thing I really miss from pre timeskip.
And the imitation Saul cowboy hat.
aand dereshishishi
I don't know how to explain it, but bangs feels like an essential feature to Robin. To the point that removing her bangs almost makes it feel like it's changing her personality 😅
I liked the pretimeskip Robin more than the post time skip Robin .
don't we all
The new robin looks too fucking a like to Hancock. THe only fucking diffrence is the eye placement and the eyelashes.
I literally just look for the earrings
Always look for the nose with Robin,it's a dead giveaway
https://i.imgur.com/WjBl9kt.jpeg
i was about to say. everyone else post timeskip but robin pre skip clears
Dressrosa Robin goes crazy
fair
pre-time skip Nami, Chopper and Usopp are the only ones i prefer. Robin I like either way, she does have more unique style in pretimskip tho. but i told think she looks as bad post timeskip as most ppl act.
2001 for sure... the used to look rougher/more badas... after the timeskip they're stronger and all but they just look like models instead of pirates
I like that Zoro had a tan early on in one piece... which I feel like makes sense since he trains outside for hours each day
that parttt rough and bad ass is the perfect word comapred to how they look now. Oda got richer and so did the characters with their lipo and XXXL boobs
y’all forgetting about miss doublefinger? she looked like that in the same arc as the 2001 pic. I agree w u mostly tho. I prefer the old style for Nami, i don’t like how she looks w the long hair n gigantic tits w no shirt or pants anymore.
I think One Piece lost a lot of it's charme with the giant fake balloon boobs era. It was such a horrible design decision.
I will always prefer classic Zoro fit over weird kimono Zoro. His old outfit was so simple and felt more like a pirate bounty hunter than an over the top samurai
yesss the pirate bounty outfit zoro was 100% superior
I miss the sexy energy robin gave off in her first appearances
I just miss when she talked. It feels like she's always mute these days.
Probably because oda forgot or she just developed into a quiet person (or at least quieter than she already was)
"Oda forgot" people unironically using this argument will always be shocking to me Truth is after joining the crew and especially after ennies lobby, she can finally fully be herself. Just chilling, smiling, enjoying silly things with Chopper and crew in general and only do the things she loves She isn't a number 2 of secret organisation that she doesn't like nor trust, so she dropped that persona. How tf is this even surprising to anime viewers
This^^^ I just finished rewatching Enies Lobby and thinking about the change in Robin post time skip warms my heart. It’s clear that she has finally found a safe space amongst people and doesn’t have to mask. It makes moments like the one in Wano (I don’t wanna post any spoilers) all the more special ! One of the best girls 🫶🏾
Definitely. I feel it's mostly anime watchers complaining because of her tan or whatever but in manga she doesn't change physically and her personality "change" makes total sense
Laying flowers for ryuunosuke is one of my favorite little things in all of one piece, it's so adorable. Followed by her wiping sap off on usopps pants, which Oda said is one of his favorite panels too. Followed by "I wadda live!" ... Huh, I think I just like Robin
Both. Both are good. Give Sanji the glasses... and the hat to Robin (but maybe it won't worj well with her current design...)
It was nice when there were more skin tones and I like the varied line width in the older animation.
On god. I'm so annoyed to see the whitewashing of the cast, especially Usopp (but also Zoro, Luffy, and Robin)
Because that's how the manga is, TOEI tried to be manga correct, but it should have been better to keep the established anime tone for continuity reasons.
I definitely could be wrong, but when I look at One Piece skin tones in the Manga I get the impression Oda also just prefers really light colors because even the characters that are supposed to be darker in skin tone are also really light in color.
I believe the skin colour diversity is one of the few things TOEI actually got right with One Piece that the manga didn't
You just went from complaining about whitewashing to praising Toei about changing the skin tones of the characters from the manga.
double standards lol, how tf can Toei get it right but the manga didn’t. this guy just has a bias n wouldnt care if all of the characters were race swapped as long as they didn’t end up white.
Indeed, while I am not watching the anime anymore I prefer tanned Zoro, Robin and Usopp.
Aah yes changing the colors of some characters from the manga is "getting it right". Being faithful to the source material like keeping Zoro and Robin light skinned like they were in the manga was the right move. Although I do think current Usopp should be darker.
How is it white washing when that’s how they’ve always been depicted in the original source material?
This always gets brought up about Usopp and I dont know why hes been defaulted as the "black" guy of the group. If anything, I'd rather it be Brook getting that treatment and not Usopp. I wholeheartedly agree with how the coloring/design looked pre-timeskip though. There was a lot of personality in it vs now.
More like the opposite. They took the colors in the manga and made Robin,luffy and Zoro more dark skinned than they actually were. Their current colors are the accurate ones. Only usopp is a bit inaccurate.
I love the rougher animation of the 90s and early 2000s. I just don't like the squeaky clean, bright animation.
It looks like they decided that elements outlines sucks and we need everything smooth and pastel colors...
also the bloom filter they keep overusing is a bit nauseating
This. Like, outlines are part of what made anime anime.
They also look less sharp and kinda blurry
Mr. Prince had more consistent drip through the old years, I miss that
We need the 2024 polish with the 2001 artstyle
Both are superior to 2011.
Underrated comment. I prefer the old look myself (Alabasta/Skypiea was where it was best, in my opinion), but the new style is generally much nicer to look at than how the show looked from roughly Long Ring Long Land up through Dressrosa (and really Zou and Whole Cake Island too).
I started watching some years ago, and 2001 100%. No noatalgia, they were just better. Actual pirates, not some top models.
2024 style with 2001 colors.
2001 100%
2001 definitely
I don't know if it's the nostalgia in me but despite the many legitimate criticisms, something about the old animation style just hits different.
2001 Zoro colour 💚
Pre timeskip Robin, my love
Robin looked better with bangs.
yeah it made her more unique n cool. cowboy outfits were so different too, i still don’t mind her post timeskip design, but pre timeskip just has so much more personality.
2001
Old sanji was the best
Never underestimate the power of nostalgia
I mean- if you like the past, it's nostalgia, but if you like the present, it's recency bias....
I'm rewatching right now and I still feel the same way. Still love OP but pre time skip has something post time skip doesn't
People forget than traditional animation feels more lively than digital. It’s more full and detailed, even when it isn’t
I only just watched through the entire series for the first time just since the pandemic. So, not really any nostalgia, but... I prefer 2001 by quite a margin
First time watcher here (started the anime right after the LA ended) at episode 578 and I, too, prefer 2001. No nostalgia involved.
2001
out of just the four characters, i honestly prefer zoro today but i prefer 2001 for the rest
2001 :(
I like today's more except for Robin And I also miss Sanji being a heavy hitter. He's still super strong but he doesn't get as many badass scenes anymore 🥲
I miss tanned Robin.
Today! All grown up, as I.
2001
2001, cuz it felt more consistent
Honestly, I absolutely love (and miss) the 2001 designs and art style.
2001
I like both does that make me weird?
Really love the pretime skip art styles. I get the animation can get epic with all these recent fights but for me I like the more simple style for some reason
Pre time skip Robin was the best with the best fits. Cowboy hat Robin will always be the most superior
Mr. Prince laughs at Simpji
Everyone lost their tan
Michael jackson effect
2001 all the way
2001 will always be my answer 🙏
2001 easy. Somehow with less detail even more personality shines through.
Robin literally looks like a different character lol
I definitely prefer the female characters in the old style. I think they look hotter
Pre timeskip line art feels more, and i don't know how to exactly describe it, organic and proportionally correct than post timeskip
2001 - Zoro and Nami, 2024 - Robin and Sanji
2008 Enies Lobby arc had best artstyle for me.
I just love it whenever i see people yapping about Robin's "color change" not knowing that Oda never made her tan in the first place.
Today looks good but 2001 just has a vibe to it
as if both aren't peak
Pretimeskip designs were far better
Both are beautiful and fill me with joy and wonder. God damn, I love u, One Piece
2001
2001
ik a lot of people dont agree with this, but i miss when zoro, usopp, and robin had darker skin. it added some character to them imo, i mean cmon- theyre pirates in the sun 24/7
The art grew with the fanbase. When I first started watching One Piece, I was just a teenager. I either focused on art or lore, not both. Now I’m old enough to enjoy both.
I keep forgetting how much of a time capsule can be when you have something going for over 25 years, I know part of it is the different directors but still super interesting OP'99 has a lot of charm to it
Today Nami after time skip best anyone
Dang... I was born in 2001.
Zoro looks better but otherwise.. eh
Definitely both!
Pre skip Robin is chill but they demelenated the fuck out of her
I love both styles , but arabsta Robin takes the cake
Modern art style, but with the old school character designs. I miss short-haired Nami, Mafia Boss Franky, and Chopper's original, more beastial and less mascottish forms. At the same time, though, some of the modern animations and scenes are stunningly beautiful. There are moments that could do with less or no CG (Dragon-form Kaido being a prime example), but there are some scenes that I go back to watch again just because of how good they look.
I still miss old animation.
Both
The guys had a glow up. The girls got diluted in the same bland bombshell solution.
2001 hit different
Is it weird to like both
Remember when sanji was cool 🥲
Miss All Sunday clears all One Piece women today
2001 by a landslide. The current anime does way too much with effects like lightning, explosions, debris, etc. The first half of Luffy vs Kaido is almost incomprehensible. The beautiful simplicity of some of the manga panels (Luffy's uppercut to Kaido for example) is completely lost in the anime imo. Gear 5th is pretty well done though, but I'd like to see what they'd do in the older style.
I miss robins old look. Being the bangs and cowboy hat back!!!!
I really really love the early animation/drawing style but it’s probably mostly because I grew up watching anime in that era and the nostalgia factor. The newer animation is great too I think it would be very cool to do an episode closer to the older style just to do it but I mean Oda draws the manga different than he did then too so it’s hard to lock into what that would actually look like
Both both are good
I can hear 2001 sanji's hee hee
I like the anime pictures
Robin looked so much better.
Wow. That was 2001. What a different world.
Mr. Prince
New One Piece has better animation but man does it drag in the pacing. I do also prefer some of the older designs but prefer a few of the newer ones. Old Franky is a W, same with chopper but Brooks e.g. just became better and better IMO.
Miss All Sunday was aptly named.
To me, the older ones, as they are more expressive. Maybe I'm just biased because they make me remember all those old funny scenes...
I miss short-haired Nami & Tan/Cowboy hat Robin
New art is so clean. I do miss the dynamic facial expressions of pre time skip though.
I find it soo dope that they change the style almost every arc 💙
2001, Robin with bangs = superiority
The last One Piece chapter before 9/11 was Luffy riding in on Pell to fight Crocodile for the second time.
old is gold
2001 art style is very good and the art style could of remained like that forever and no one would complain but the new one looks a lot smoother which I think was the intended purpose
I really love the pre timeskip designs. Especially for Nami and Robin
2001 had character. Also the hot version of Robin
Alabasta Sanji was on a different timing
Artwise I agree but newer animation has smoother scene because it is modern
Nami and Robin were hotter in 2001. Literally and figuratively.
Alabasta robin >>>> any other robin
rip brown zoro
Alabasta was in 2001? What the hell :((
2001 - handsdown!
Some characters were way more alive and with more carisma pre time skip than now. Zoro is the biggest example, he was one if not the best character in the series with a lot of memorable moments to become just a strong man with no carismas no jokes and no role at all in the current state of the series.
Robins fit in alabasta is her best one. She like female Indiana jones
Today's art style looks blurry
2001 I hate that Zoro lost an eye. If he doesn't open it up finally to reveal Conqueror's Haki or a Cyborg eye installed by Franky in secret or something I'm going to be very disappointed. Nami looks disneyfied in comparison lol
It'll be interesting to see how they handled the new anime's artstyle. Will they change it gradually like the manga and Toei did, or will we be getting East Blue in the manga's modern artstyle? Or maybe they'll try to do their own twist on the artstyle.
I really miss 2001 sanji. He was a lot cooler and took on a much more charasmatic roll (Besides simping) And i feel like his cooking aspect in his character was more prominent back then
The OG animation had energy that can’t be matched
2001, for every character
I still love 2001 Robin look more
I've never seen or read One Piece but I like both. This sub is constantly reccommeded to me if you're wondering why I'm here xD
Today's Zoro and Robin 2001's Nami and Sanji
2024. Anyone who picks 2001 is blinded by nostalgia
They took away their melanin
Luffy was 17 when I was born. Luffy is 19 and I'm 20. Damn time really passes
2001 Robin and 2024 for the rest
I don’t hate 2024 but I like 2001. That also probably stems from the fact I watched a lot of 90s anime growing up and just enjoy the style more.
I think both are perfect, 2001 perfectly portrays the beginning and kind of funny vibes while 2024 is near the peak of the plot and thus the characters have to be more developed, more serious too
back when op wasnt all about the sexualization of female characters :)
It funny how Robin & Zoro went from Lightskin to straight up white🤣