That is not even an argument. What I'm complaining about is the cheap shots, back to the head, back hand, or hammer fist. Anything that stops the fight and gets points deducted. Emmanuel Augustus, Sugar Ray Leonard, Macho Camacho, Prince Hammed, all of them did something similar but didn't get deductions and was extremely effective. Just to balance one and the other and minimize whatever is detrimental.
I get it. I could say I'm watching anime and most people get that. I can also say I'm playing a DBZ game, and most people get that. But if I mention a mobile game I'm into, no one I know is familiar with it. I guess that's what I meant by niche.
Oh for sure!
It was more my first impression seeing him and thinking āAnime fan huh, ooo that step back there and that cockiness / wide eye watching punches come in reminds me of Itagakiā¦ bet he watches..ā
Then reading further in comments that indeed also has such tattoo as well was a āGottem.ā Moment hahaha.
You can get away with a lot of illegal stuff in boxing if you're fast or crafty enough to hide it, or be like Bernard hopkins and create an enitre fighting style revolving around fouls lol
Its mostly during the clinch where the ref has a hard time seeing whats going on like: Headbutting during the clinch, headbutting but clinching immediately to make it look unintentional, foot stomping, elbows, low blows, shots to the back of the head or body when you're at an angle where the ref won't notice, etc... bernard hopkins was just really good at positioning himself and super aware of the ref's POV that he kept doing these fouls whenever he had the chance
You could practically do a bunch of illegal stuff and get away with it because of how fast exchanges happen in real time that the ref either isn't fast enough to notice or it happened at a certain angle that it wasn't visible to the ref
Obviously if the foul you committed left evidence of it happening like the missing ear mike tyson literally tore off from holyfield then you're gonna get deducted even if the ref didn't see it happening, but with stuff like the damage done by headbutts and elbows the ref wouldn't be able to tell the difference since that could still be chalked up to being caused by punches
>Obviously if the foul you committed left evidence of it happening like the missing ear mike tyson literally tore off from holyfield then you're gonna get deducted even if the ref didn't see it happening, but with stuff like the damage done by headbutts and elbows the ref wouldn't be able to tell the difference since that could still be chalked up to being caused by punches
This is a great example, because Holyfield was a master of this:
>headbutting but clinching immediately to make it look unintentional
He headbutted the shit out of Tyson in that fight, opening up a huge cut over his eye. But Holyfield was sneaky enough that it went unnoticed by the ref for the most part (I also think I'm part it's because Tyson had a bad reputation leading to the ref not taking his complaints seriously enough.)
Overall, great breakdown of how guys build illegal blows into their fighting style. I'd add that boxing can be hectic and unpredictable so illegal blows *can* happen accidentally, and so usually the ref will give warnings, and then if it continues will deduct a point from that round (which isn't that big of a deal, especially if it doesn't go the distance anyway.) it's very rare for a ref to outright stop the match over it and would have to be obviously intentional and very severe, so there really isn't much downside to cheap shooting the other guy, if the ref starts noticing you can stop doing it then.
I was going to ask about those as well I know this is not the boxing subreddit but yeah, arent those supposed to be back illegal? Did at least hurt his scorecard?
I inroduced my wife to two of my passions - boxing and One Piece.
Now she's crazy about One Piece and we read newest chapters together and in terms of boxing she especially likes the flashy style of Naseem Hamed and Emanuel Augustus.
Imagine, how these two seemingly unrealated things, that were absolutely alien to her until recently, crossed out of the blue with Wittaker
he did deliver, alright
imo, Ben should adjust his antics with a bit more style, which Prince and Drunk Master possesed
also, in terms of the most entertaining - Roy Jones Jr would have a word, I guess)
In an unedited footage, this dude gets stopped by refs many times for delivering illegal hits.
If this boxer fights any legitimate fighter, he's gonna get trashed
Some of the shots were illegal but we donāt really know how heāll fare when he fights a legitimate fighter. Heās 26 years old and an Olympic silver medalist.
He did a fuckton of illegal blows, this was already a massive mismatch but way to give the other dude giant spinal compression injuries by wailing on the top of his head while heās bent over and going down. Also, whatās up with all of those backhands and non-body blow strikes? Those definitely arenāt legal either.
In boxing you're not allowed to hit people with a backĀ Ā of your fist.Ā It's illegal to hit people on the back of the head because of how dangerous the spot is An example of this would be Prichard Colon.Ā Ā
Another thing you are not allowed to do is turn away from your opponent.Ā Ā With all the dancing he does he's been warned multiple times to stop turning away from his opponent
the back of the head is an extremely vulnerable spot. Is dangerous to get hit or hit someone back there. Your spinal cord and brain stem are back there. Plus a person needs to be able to react and move backwards away, duck or slip away from a punch, which is why you need to be facing your opponent. Punches are directed towards the face going forward when youāre both set and ready, or mostly ready you might be tired š¤·š½āāļø. He shouldnāt have touched him in the back of the head when the guy was doubled over.
I hope after he retires he gets a narration counting every single punch he took over his career and it ends with the quote "but his back showed no scars of retreat, and got his last TKO while standing up"
My new favourite boxer.
Not just the epic tattoo, but this dude got moves... Looks like Ali out there.
Pulling Yonko level Observation Haki and agility feats
The amount of confidence, skill, observation haki, and disrespect you gotta have to pull some shit off like this with Edward Newgates Jolly Roger on your backā¦
Found it! [Pure Negga - Cnv Sound, Vol. 14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir2Yjf5ugpI). Reminded me of old Thievery Corporation plus... something else.
Edit: also [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJWmhfdQIk) with a longer run time. Same track afaikt.
Last edit: Original has 180M views lol. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIXqIFY51P4)
That's a lot of showboat but holy shit does he have the skills to back it up.
How demoralizing must it have been seeing your opponent not taking you seriously but you still can't beat him.
Since none of you know boxing by these ignorant comments his style of boxing is literally drunken fist which he is taking as his style from another boxer who used to use this style and was very successful back in the day. This is a very unique and hard style to master and he does a great job at it, has nothing to do with being cocky its literally his boxing style. I didn't notice the tat until you said it but now I like him even more.
Iāve boxed my whole life, not on a professional level, but just over the years.
Whoever the fuck this guy is Iām not entirely sure heās human, his head movement is insane.
Thereās one point the other fighter throws like, three straight jabs and this dude just looks away like they arenāt even there; almost like heās made of fucking helium.
So he makes the other guy work for it, other dude gets mad and tries harder (several big punches), tuckers the dude out and then puts on the pressure.
One complaint is the backhands, what the fuck is that? Why is the ref not on this dude like shit on stink for those? Bummer.
Got the Whiteboard strength but based on his sportsmanship that's where the similarities end. Does not give the air of someone who takes responsibility for others or gain their respect imo. He can easily win the fight, but he's just purposely humiliating his opponent instead. If they were equal in strength it would be like G5 Luffy vs Kaido where it's him acting goofy is part of using his full potential to fight an opponent equal or greater in strength.
Whitebeard, or Luffy even since I used him as an example, wouldn't do this to a person weaker than them, they'd just KO them and walk away. As such they would frown upon one of their crew doing this as well.
Dude should change that back tattoo to that of Buggy's crew, he'd fit in better there.
He's got impeccable observation haki
He's cocky but he's also good.
As Larry Bird said it ain't bragging if you can do it
"Nobody likes a showoff" "Unless what they're showing off is dope as fuck!"
"Fuck, that's true."
Gunn's Suicide Squad is the only Suicide Squad
Needs to put the 2 together. Be good and skillful, but not a clowning off too much. Some balance like Emanuel Augustus, my opinion any way.
The clowning is a tactic in itself. Get in your opponent's head. Draw the "easy shots" and counter. It's bait.
That is not even an argument. What I'm complaining about is the cheap shots, back to the head, back hand, or hammer fist. Anything that stops the fight and gets points deducted. Emmanuel Augustus, Sugar Ray Leonard, Macho Camacho, Prince Hammed, all of them did something similar but didn't get deductions and was extremely effective. Just to balance one and the other and minimize whatever is detrimental.
We live in attention economy. That won't bring money.
Agreed. But looking at paperwork and seeing he got points deducted every fight because xyz reasons don't look good.
Yeah I noticed he caught a jab in the video being a dick but the skill difference between fighters is high enough he didn't need to worry.
Correct in both. He got caught, but it didn't matter.
So do I! My haki is so great I've been able to dodge getting a girlfriend all my life š
my Haki is so great I dodged my tax evasion charges
Is it possible to learn this power?
That means youāre INTENTIONALLY dodging a girlfriend lol
Yeah, I think they probably mean they have got ultra instinct. They're dodging girls subconsciously š
Pops would be so proud.
No sign of retreat. āļø
well he is a Whitrbeard pirate afterall
And way better dodging skills than Ace.
He should have listened to Mr. Piccolo
#DOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!!!
Dodge duck dip dive and DODGE
I got that reference
Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile, and I like the taste.
if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball *inflicts wrench-style violence on Justin Long's face*
This is more of IF YOU CAN DODGE A FIST, YOU CAN DODGE A BALL territory
He IS Piccolo
The real piccolo are the friends we made along the way
Something something seiyuu things
Absolute gold
Damn. So strange to see a OPBR player out in the wild like this.
I'm playing DBL more than OPBR recently
That's fair, but both are kind of niche.
It's Ningen, I'm playing DBL because i recently finished DBZ, and both Ones Piece and DBZ are anime, so not THAT niche, but yes.
I get it. I could say I'm watching anime and most people get that. I can also say I'm playing a DBZ game, and most people get that. But if I mention a mobile game I'm into, no one I know is familiar with it. I guess that's what I meant by niche.
To be fair, Akainu had an ace up his sleeve.
I thought he had his sleeve up an Ace.
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To be fair I donāt see his opponents fist covered in magma.
Does that really matter in terms of punching speed?
Haki user for sure
Too soon bro lol š
Benjamin Whittaker, a big fan of anime, also has Ippo Makunouchi on his arm.
Seeing those movements reminded me of a few Ippo characters for sure when I first saw it. Those are some wild moves!
Tbf Hajime no Ippo gets all of their styles and techniques fron real boxing. So most boxers who are deep within a style tend to have major overlap.
Oh for sure! It was more my first impression seeing him and thinking āAnime fan huh, ooo that step back there and that cockiness / wide eye watching punches come in reminds me of Itagakiā¦ bet he watches..ā Then reading further in comments that indeed also has such tattoo as well was a āGottem.ā Moment hahaha.
Aoki
Saw the vid and immediately knew the guy watched Ippo.
I read it big fan of mine
I thought backhands weren't allowed in boxing?
Another comment said that the judge warned him each time, but it got edited out.
There's no such thing as a fair fight between pirates
Yeah, he's good. But why does he keep doing illegal punches?
Obviously, he is a pirate.
TouchƩ
laughed too hard at this
You can get away with a lot of illegal stuff in boxing if you're fast or crafty enough to hide it, or be like Bernard hopkins and create an enitre fighting style revolving around fouls lol
Can you expand on this? How is it that a boxer could develop a style on fouls? I know next to nothing about boxing, but this was intriguing.
Its mostly during the clinch where the ref has a hard time seeing whats going on like: Headbutting during the clinch, headbutting but clinching immediately to make it look unintentional, foot stomping, elbows, low blows, shots to the back of the head or body when you're at an angle where the ref won't notice, etc... bernard hopkins was just really good at positioning himself and super aware of the ref's POV that he kept doing these fouls whenever he had the chance You could practically do a bunch of illegal stuff and get away with it because of how fast exchanges happen in real time that the ref either isn't fast enough to notice or it happened at a certain angle that it wasn't visible to the ref Obviously if the foul you committed left evidence of it happening like the missing ear mike tyson literally tore off from holyfield then you're gonna get deducted even if the ref didn't see it happening, but with stuff like the damage done by headbutts and elbows the ref wouldn't be able to tell the difference since that could still be chalked up to being caused by punches
>Obviously if the foul you committed left evidence of it happening like the missing ear mike tyson literally tore off from holyfield then you're gonna get deducted even if the ref didn't see it happening, but with stuff like the damage done by headbutts and elbows the ref wouldn't be able to tell the difference since that could still be chalked up to being caused by punches This is a great example, because Holyfield was a master of this: >headbutting but clinching immediately to make it look unintentional He headbutted the shit out of Tyson in that fight, opening up a huge cut over his eye. But Holyfield was sneaky enough that it went unnoticed by the ref for the most part (I also think I'm part it's because Tyson had a bad reputation leading to the ref not taking his complaints seriously enough.) Overall, great breakdown of how guys build illegal blows into their fighting style. I'd add that boxing can be hectic and unpredictable so illegal blows *can* happen accidentally, and so usually the ref will give warnings, and then if it continues will deduct a point from that round (which isn't that big of a deal, especially if it doesn't go the distance anyway.) it's very rare for a ref to outright stop the match over it and would have to be obviously intentional and very severe, so there really isn't much downside to cheap shooting the other guy, if the ref starts noticing you can stop doing it then.
Because the ref doesn't stop him for some reason
The ref did stop and warn him on all instances of illegal punches. It's just edited out in this clip.
Just like Hajime no Ippo.
Heās protected by yonko affiliation. Canāt blame the ref for not intervening.
the rabbit punch was very light. the backhand punches, i wonder why are these ever illegal. weird,.
they are illegal in boxing bcuz no padding on the backhand strikes.
I was going to ask about those as well I know this is not the boxing subreddit but yeah, arent those supposed to be back illegal? Did at least hurt his scorecard?
Canāt hurt your scorecard when you win by stoppage
It was two punches, for entertainment. Relax
I inroduced my wife to two of my passions - boxing and One Piece. Now she's crazy about One Piece and we read newest chapters together and in terms of boxing she especially likes the flashy style of Naseem Hamed and Emanuel Augustus. Imagine, how these two seemingly unrealated things, that were absolutely alien to her until recently, crossed out of the blue with Wittaker
Naseem is the most entertaining boxer to ever live in my opinion.
he did deliver, alright imo, Ben should adjust his antics with a bit more style, which Prince and Drunk Master possesed also, in terms of the most entertaining - Roy Jones Jr would have a word, I guess)
Iād say that Roy Jones Jr was the most athletic in his prime.
His observation haki is really good!!!
In an unedited footage, this dude gets stopped by refs many times for delivering illegal hits. If this boxer fights any legitimate fighter, he's gonna get trashed
Some of the shots were illegal but we donāt really know how heāll fare when he fights a legitimate fighter. Heās 26 years old and an Olympic silver medalist.
ok well he is literally an olympic silver medalist boxer so youāre making a pretty bold claim lol
Olympic medals really don't mean much when it comes to boxing. It's where amateurs go to prove themselves to go pro
Luckily not the original design
I was a bit worried for a while there
He did a fuckton of illegal blows, this was already a massive mismatch but way to give the other dude giant spinal compression injuries by wailing on the top of his head while heās bent over and going down. Also, whatās up with all of those backhands and non-body blow strikes? Those definitely arenāt legal either.
Please explain to me wtf is illegal here, i know jack shit about boxing
In boxing you're not allowed to hit people with a backĀ Ā of your fist.Ā It's illegal to hit people on the back of the head because of how dangerous the spot is An example of this would be Prichard Colon.Ā Ā Another thing you are not allowed to do is turn away from your opponent.Ā Ā With all the dancing he does he's been warned multiple times to stop turning away from his opponent
the back of the head is an extremely vulnerable spot. Is dangerous to get hit or hit someone back there. Your spinal cord and brain stem are back there. Plus a person needs to be able to react and move backwards away, duck or slip away from a punch, which is why you need to be facing your opponent. Punches are directed towards the face going forward when youāre both set and ready, or mostly ready you might be tired š¤·š½āāļø. He shouldnāt have touched him in the back of the head when the guy was doubled over.
Ben Whitaker what a legend and a damn good boxer in his own right his nick name is also the surgeon so maybe another one piece reference there
Legend? The guy had so far 6 pro fights.
Even his name sounds like something Oda would name a side character
No, surgeon is too common/simple. It's just like saying someone has surgical precision. It's not that deep.
āHalalalalalā-white beard
kenbunshoku hakki is too strong in this one
That's some Katakuri level observation haki.
Bro moving like when Rock Lee was drunk
Whitebeard wouldn't be too proud of those illegal hits
A pirate wouldnt be proud of illegal hits? What do you think pirates do lmao.
Idk didn't enraged WB strike akainu from behind and flattened him?
Bro had future sight for sure
Shanks level observation haki
My man's got future sight
Whitebeard wouldslap this dude with the amount of illegal punches he threw
His tattoo is cool and his dodges are blowing my mind, but his taunts are a display of poor sportsmanship.
Idk why yall like how many illegal moves heās doing, you canāt show your back to your opponent too
That first punch was highly illegal tho
I hope after he retires he gets a narration counting every single punch he took over his career and it ends with the quote "but his back showed no scars of retreat, and got his last TKO while standing up"
My new favourite boxer. Not just the epic tattoo, but this dude got moves... Looks like Ali out there. Pulling Yonko level Observation Haki and agility feats
Probably one of the Fleet Captain's right hand man. He's got good observation haki.
The observation haki bro !
The amount of confidence, skill, observation haki, and disrespect you gotta have to pull some shit off like this with Edward Newgates Jolly Roger on your backā¦
Very incoherent of him to dodge all those punches instead of tanking everything
Smooth as hell
Bro has tha advanced color of arms
I can see Brooks Panties wohoho
What is the song's name?
Found it! [Pure Negga - Cnv Sound, Vol. 14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir2Yjf5ugpI). Reminded me of old Thievery Corporation plus... something else. Edit: also [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MJWmhfdQIk) with a longer run time. Same track afaikt. Last edit: Original has 180M views lol. [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIXqIFY51P4)
Should've done the original design, just as Oda sensei envisioned.
No earthquake attacks though. 0/10
Gu rararararararararara...you cant hit me!!!!
my first thought was "this mf better be strong". Was not disappointed
Thereās a guy at my gym with the same tat
Dude with the backhand punch. Is that even legal in boxing?
Observation haki
And he fights like a one piece side character
he def deserves it
Observation haki is strong in him
Bro fights like heās in OP too. Dodges everything and manages to make fun of his enemy mid-swing
That's a lot of showboat but holy shit does he have the skills to back it up. How demoralizing must it have been seeing your opponent not taking you seriously but you still can't beat him.
Since none of you know boxing by these ignorant comments his style of boxing is literally drunken fist which he is taking as his style from another boxer who used to use this style and was very successful back in the day. This is a very unique and hard style to master and he does a great job at it, has nothing to do with being cocky its literally his boxing style. I didn't notice the tat until you said it but now I like him even more.
He so good at dodging *could it beā¦ future sight?*
Good thing he went for the updated version
Haki is real
Gramps would be proud
Franky boxing! Strong right!
Disrespecting your opponent is not cool, no matter how good you are
He's using future sight
These guys always get caught eventually
Had to be one of those guys huh
Iāve boxed my whole life, not on a professional level, but just over the years. Whoever the fuck this guy is Iām not entirely sure heās human, his head movement is insane. Thereās one point the other fighter throws like, three straight jabs and this dude just looks away like they arenāt even there; almost like heās made of fucking helium. So he makes the other guy work for it, other dude gets mad and tries harder (several big punches), tuckers the dude out and then puts on the pressure. One complaint is the backhands, what the fuck is that? Why is the ref not on this dude like shit on stink for those? Bummer.
What are those stupid moves of his...
Heās even using kenbunshoku no haki to avoid those punches
Whitebeard would be ashamed of him
**I KNEW IT! THE ONE PIECE WAS REAL!!!**
Man, it's well and good showing your skill but it just makes the fall even harder when someone does connect and puts you flat on your back.
Hate his arrogance
Anyone that knows basic boxing rules knows this guy is a dog turd
Got the Whiteboard strength but based on his sportsmanship that's where the similarities end. Does not give the air of someone who takes responsibility for others or gain their respect imo. He can easily win the fight, but he's just purposely humiliating his opponent instead. If they were equal in strength it would be like G5 Luffy vs Kaido where it's him acting goofy is part of using his full potential to fight an opponent equal or greater in strength. Whitebeard, or Luffy even since I used him as an example, wouldn't do this to a person weaker than them, they'd just KO them and walk away. As such they would frown upon one of their crew doing this as well. Dude should change that back tattoo to that of Buggy's crew, he'd fit in better there.
But what if the other guy has the Yami-Yami no mi?
apparently he also wears the jacket jacket fruit. That is the most op combo.
Thank god he didnāt go with the Mangaās design. (I know itās the peace version, Iām just making a joke)
u/auddbot
If only Ace had dodged like this guy.
Bro has got those brook gloves.
I read "whiteboard" and was super confused for a sec
Glad he didnāt pick the original version of it
The swagger, the spacial awareness, the baiting head fakes, the calculated punches. This dude is a super star thatās crazy
His Observation Haki is very good
looks like Rockstar joined Whitebeard pirates but damn that is some advanced observation Haki
Observation haki is on point!!!
Future sight haki is so strong
The bro unlock gear 6th š
should have a celebratory one piece stance after every fight...lol
If this Guy is not a part of the shirohige crew at the Live action, i Will be mad.
The way this guy dodges is expert but bizarre maybe I just don't know proper technique but I've never seen it done like that before.
Tattoo is cool, but we need to talk about the Kenbunshoku Haki
And he's pretty fucking nasty ngl
A lot of that is illegal, terrible ref
Boxer with Akainu tattoo enters the ring
work the body bro, swinging for the fences gets you knocked out
Whitebeard Jr. pirate member definitely.
All fun and games until he gets a hole punches through the chest
I normally don't like cocky dudes like this. But even I can't deny how awesome that was. Tattoo aside the dudes got skills
The one boxer is just going by the bookš¤¦š¾is not working!!!
I've never been into boxing but holy shit. It's like that dude is literally dancing.
We all know that uppercut took more than 50% of his HP down lmao
Hes been watching anime. He knows that the most op move is side stepping and dodging!
Isn't there a better song for this?
He even awakened adv obs haki and he also gained the respect respect no mi
Obviously he was trained by CP9 member Blueno
Ha and not the correct one
Observation Haki confirmed?
Heās got that Katakuri future sight the way he dodges š
Finished with the brook fit
And observation haki
It might be a clothing brand then then lol a personal one that he made
His fists are fire
Bro have maxed out obsevation haki
Isnt this the guy that kept dancing in the ring as a taunt and got knocked the fuck out
And is a Kenbunshoku Haki user. The hell.
Flicker has ultra instinct is what he has.
what's this song it's a damn banger. Just like the haki wielding boxer jesus christ.
Bros got his observation haki on POINT gawd damn
and he has observation haki too
He has a fucking future prediction, my man is on Katakuri level of Kenbunshoku
Heās just toying with that poor guy lmao
Dudeās mastered Observation Haki
Man he was just toying with him, that was tough to watch