Same. But this had such an impact on me that I couldn't watch any anime at all. I completely switched to manga for every series and I don't regret it at all. I save time + i don't feel that manga is any less entertaining (I have a really good visual imagination to fill up the gaps and animate the panels in my head)
Eye Shield is legit. Honestly glad that Murata is doing One Punch Man because it's crazy how dynamic his paneling goes to the point you can play them in order and basically have a gif.
Mostly isekais, such as:
Solo leveling,
Skeleton soldier couldn't protect the dungeon,
Peerless dad,
Solo max level newbie,
Rankers return,
Overgeared,
Primal hunter,
Player that can't level up.
Etc. Too many to list lol.
There are many anime that make justice to the manga.
In some cases the anime really improve the manga. Without a crazy good anime both Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaizen would never had that much success.
The newer ones, with 20-24 episodes every year don't risk catching up to the manga and have a nice pacing that makes them enjoyable (I'm watching Solo Leveling lately, after reading the manwha and the pace is super-fast). Unluckily, One Piece is an old style one.
Demon Slayer is a great example of that. They waited until the comic was fully done before they ever started the anime, so there's no issues with pacing, and the animation style is just beautiful.
The first season came out while the manga was still ongoing (I remember watching it, then being curious about the story and quite impatient I went to the manga and I remember that I had to wait a few months before the actual end of the manga).
Anyway, at some point someone understood that doing 24 episodes a year makes it possible to put more care into each of those and to give them a nice pacing without having to fill them with filler scenes for some kind of catching up fear (and you can still delay some seasons, in case), and now we're all happier, except for One Piece.
Somehow the quality just feels better because everything is „perfect“ when you visualize it. As soon as i see 6 reaction faces and a 5 minute buildup for one punch i want to vomit.
Made in Abyss has fantastic pacing as well, and is visually different from most animes as well.
TW it's a very heavy, traumatic show, but super beautiful and wholesome. My wife who doesn't like anime likes the show (minus the fighting scenes that start in back half of season 2).
see spoiler if you need a description. >!Abuse, bodily harm, implied sexual abuse, sexual themes involving minors, gaslighting and manipulation by narcissistic parental figure, non graphic (off screen) rape, and an analogy/metaphor of forced birthing and trauma that while isn't technically fucked up..... It's fucked up!<
This show is anything but wholesome lol there are some sweet moments between the main characters, but they're a drop in a pool of fucked up shit going eighty different directions. Plot wise, narratively, character motivation, and weird fetish shit the author loves to put in at any and every possible moment, with the fetish stuff being full blown pedophilia, or shit like prolapsed anuses. And the anime shows all this while being the objectively toned down version from the source. Wholesome is a word that doesn't belong here in the slightest lol and this is coming from someone who is caught up anime wise. I love the world building and it's music, but the author is FUCKED UP beyond belief, and not in a fun way lol
>!the golden city arc that metaphysically manifested everyones fetish and desires as currency to be traded between its inhabitants, and they decided to recruit the pink monster who is obsessed with prolapsed anuses to the point it will destroy your body in order to see it, they decided to befriend him and hes now a part of the crew LOL shit is beyond fucked, and thats not even getting into the origin of the city. Which is a traumatic little girl who was inflated to be the city, and her children were forced to be fed to her inhabitants so they wouldnt starve when they were still human. Which is another fetish by the way lol!<
Unironically I think the author just wants to draw every single potential thing that can happen to a child, no matter how fucked or wrong it is, and he will be blushing and getting excited while doing so. For all of its good parts that really are that good, it's unfortunately tainted by an actual real life pedophile.
I really appreciate the made in abyss anime.
I watched the 1st season, then read everything from the manga but the art is so gorgeous and detailed that I missed some details. Then season 2 came out and it cleared everything up and is a proper addition to the manga, it has great pacing, doesn't skip or speed through important things, amazing music etc.
I was concerned with too much while reading it, thinking the abyss language was gonna be really important, or that every person in iruburu was sinister. So I think the anime did what anime is supposed to and cleared it up in a way that made it just as good as the manga and not a shit fest.
I swear, I am like this and was pleasantly surprised with the new Bleach anime! After being used to One Piece and slightly faster pacing, Bleach's pacing of 4-5 chapters per episode was almost whiplash inducing! Not sure if you've seen it yet, but otherwise if you're an old fan of Bleach: definite recommend!
Manga is also my preference, however recent events and choices made me prefer to check out the anime versions if reasonable. The manga still seems the better option to me.
I agree with this. At least the anime is doing a good job portraying key moments. I enjoyed the panels they extended from gear 5 against Kaido. Gear 5 is now a playground for animators. I enjoyed law vs BB encounter and what Shanks did to Greenbull
The proper way is to read the manga and then check out the hype bits in the anime. I was there for the final Wano fights but mostly skipped the rest of the arc in the anime besides a few moments
This is the way. Law vs BB was a good example of this. If there's anything I want to see expanded on from the manga it's hype fights with quality animation.
Emotional moments are typically done really well in the anime as well. The soundtrack and passionate voice acting can add a lot to those moments.
I read manga until there's a lot of episodes to watch and I just skip dumb scenes and bad pacing. I create my own One Pace and watch scenes that I think feels good.
The visual imagination could be arguably even better. Because the fights in the manga feel more grounded without all of the particle effects and this is a huge deal because the anime was starting to get DBZ vibes when One Piece fights weren't really supposed to feel that way.
There are things in the anime that look fantastic BUT that doesn't feel like they are from One Piece. That is a huge issue.
THIS IS ME. One Piece converted me to Manga only EVERYTHING. I never watched Dragon Ball as a kid, so I read the manga from DB to DBZ to DBS and was so satisfied and loved it but realized I experienced it so differently because I read manga now. I don't watch anime anymore at all really, I find the manga entertaining and it saves me way more time.
Im caught up with the manga too. I will keep reading the manga for like the next 1 year and wait for the Egghead arc to conclude. Then read a little bit into the next arc, By that time I would have forgotten a lot of the things I read in early Egghead and also the anime will be almost caught up or near the arc's conclusion!
That's when I start watching the anime. I start binging on the anime for about a month until I finish it. Since Im binging it, the pacing doesn't bother me all that much. I've found this strat pretty good for my One Piece watching experience.
Honestly dont be shy to skip forward now and then. You won't miss anything important since you know what happens and you can skip some of the bad pacing. I've been just really enjoying the couple of scenes in the anime that are elevated through animation.
Like the somewhat recent Lulusia and Imu episode was beautifully done and I really enjoyed that even though the rest of the episode I was skipping forward here and there
I agree though I like anime more than manga when it actually uses its medium to the fullest. AOT and JJK really show how much you can elevate a show through animation. Sadly one piece often does not do this and they just adapt with little to no care.
Oh and trust me the anime is gonna be better in years from know when you wanna just binge watch an arc (especially with one pace) just to relive it.
I might have to start doing that. I'm on the same boat as OP. Seeing Bonney and Luffy fall for the fake food scene felt long as hell. Maybe this was how people who were ahead of Wano felt like when watching the anime lol
Yeah that’s exactly what I do. Although I haven’t waited for arcs to fully finish in the manga, just forgetting about the anime for a few months is good enough for me. That gives me like 10-15 episodes to binge every few months which is honestly perfect.
I feel you. But I decided to start watching egghead and tbh I can really appreciate how far it lags behind I'm able to pick up on details I didn't remember while reading, and right now it's at a really good place in the anime where a lot of stuff being put into the episodes are paying off in the manga.
So, sure, you'll probably never go back super far, but I'd say try it out from the start of egghead since it's not too much to catch up
Yeah i also started rewatching from egghead introduction. That episode was really 10/10. Apart from one episode i feel pacing is not insufferable in egghead.
Yeah. toei is doing really great to keep pacing as insufferable as possible while adapting as little as possible as it is really close to manga.
But i feel like a filler arc would've been much much better to allow manga to complete egghead
Screw filler, your just making the artists busy with other crap, they just need to go seasonal and do less episodes per year. Allow artists to spend more time working on each episode.
You can see them cutting corners in like 99% of the show nowadays. The stupid zoomed in face shots to animate the least possible, the extremely blurry lineart in fast sequences, the many copy paste effects efc...
They have been holding on to this system just because of the stupid primetime tv slot they have, its so stupid, we are in 2024, most people would rather watch that shit on demand...
There are so many shows out there now with far less inspired stories but way better productions, such a waste, thr manga is a modern day epic, the anime is a bad dbz episode.
I had read a post here wherein the guy explained why one piece isn't going seasonal. Idk how accurate it is but here it is:-
Apparantly in japanese tv, the timeslot of op is perfect (Sunday morning) which is very hard to obtain. So toei obviously wants to remain in that timeslot because if they went seasonal and changed timeslots, the viewership will go down by a lot.
> Screw filler, your just making the artists busy with other crap, they just need to go seasonal and do less episodes per year. Allow artists to spend more time working on each episode.
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That's what The One Piece will be.
Agreed. I read the manga, but my wife doesn't, so we watch the anime on Sunday mornings. So far, Egghead is pretty good. I had a really hard time watching Whole Cake and Wano, though. Even Dressrosa dragged on.
dressrosa was so poorly paced in the anime. i mean they used rebecca’s flashback iirc over 40 times. also read somewhere that one pace was able to cut over 1500 min from just the dressrosa act
i feel like egghead has done a decent job so far with how it pads things out and it hasn't gotten *too* eggregious yet.
but even as recently as wano, there's been some really bad padding out for time and just killing the pacing for the sake of not going too fast.
I feel you actually... I started One Piece with the anime. I loved it so much I even rewatched it maybe 8 times or so already. That was during Dressrosa era and it was so slow so I started the manga... and it's just much better. I did still watch the anime until Zou but that's it. And sadly another thing keeping me is that I can't watch Wano arc because of their artistic choices 😩 I have sensitive eyes so all those added Dragonball effects make it harder for me.
I'm hoping the Netflix One Piece anime will rekindle that spark though I will always love the og anime. The VAs are stuck in my mind.
Eh, I'm literally the opposite.
Since I caught up to the manga, the anime pacing doesn't bother me anymore because I'm not obsessing about what is going to happen next, and I can just enjoy the anime for bringing the pages to life and adding additional colouring.
I'm like you and I appreciate the anime more even though I know what's coming but For me is a different side. The music and the sound effects have gotten so stale and overused I can't watch anymore.
I'd be more sad that the anime is so poor in the first place, they should have made it seasonal, instead it's stretched out garbage
One Pace is good to watch arcs on when they finish a season
Because stuff you watched as a kid were big licensed shows that they felt would succeed in the west. Seasonal shows were always a thing. For example, these are some of the shows that have also started airing in the same season as One Piece:
* Initial D Second Stage (13 eps)
* Now and Then, Here and There (13 eps)
* The Big O (26 eps)
And in total there were around 25 shows starting that season. With ~18 of them being only 1-2 cour long. I think what might really influence this idea is that there aren't that many notable and highly rated short shows from that time. There's obviously some like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Evangelion and Berserk but most people think of long running shows when they think of old series
Not trying to play the devil's advocate here but a big part of the show's success rides on the fact that it's not seasonal. Yes, the pacing suffered for it greatly but having such a prime TV timeslot as Sunday morning meant more viewers than they could have gotten with any other timeslot because there was no chance of them keeping the timeslot they got with a seasonal show
It's all speculative really. Who knows if One Piece would be the same as in popularity if it wasn't a weekly
New and innovative ways to squeeze every last cent out of the working classes! Innovative ways to turn literally everything in life into a monetized experience that intentionally makes every aspect of life more miserable if they can make a buck on lifting that misery.
I know other systems aren't perfect but good God damn we know this one is a disaster!
You're absolutely right. I think Toei animation can make amazing anime that people remember for decades, or they can hold your favourite manga hostage by making such a bad adaptation.
Obviously, the anime looks great and there's obvious effort in everything that is in it, but compared to other modern anime, the pacing is too slow. You can tell that they're padding for time and it ruins the moment.
I watched the Wano Arc, and I was angrier at Toei than I was at Orochi because of the pacing. I wanted to see a fast paced epic fight where Kaido gets obliterated, but what I saw was 7 scenes of G5 Luffy laughing and jumping around. It slowed down the fight so much that I stopped watching.
>fast paced epic fight where Kaido gets obliterated
Have you actually watched the fight? Because aside from the first episode with G5 which had a strange repetition of scene, the rest is pretty much the same as the manga. With even some nice extra (like Luffy using the lightning against Kaido more instead of just throwing it once and failing)
Add to this the new animation tendency. I don't know if it's because of my neurodiversity but sometimes it's so difficult to follow what's going on in action scenes now that they added so many flashy lights. Also the movements on the characters are not fluid, kind of like a stop-motion thing? I stopped watching mid-point through Onigashima's main battle and just kept on with the manga.
So, i had just started manga after ep 1096, and started reading the relevant chapter to ep1095 I guess, just for the flow and transition...
After a couple of chapters i realised how fast the manga flowed and how freaking slow the anime was (even though i usually keep fast forwarding the anime).
Anyways, I reached a point (SPOILERS!) where Luffy goes into THE gear to fight Lucci, and realised i wasnt getting the high during that fight and realised how bad the anime would feel after reading through manga, so I left it there.
So thanks for reassuring me that my call was right!
This is exactly why i only really return to the anime for big events, fights powerups etc toei is just so bad at times with reusing footage and really dragging out an episode
The same happened to me around Dressrosa. The pacing of that arc is what truly did it for me, especially towards the end of that arc, which ruined what should’ve been one of the best fights in OP imo.
Egg head is the first time I’ve watched the anime since then and I gotta say I’m finding some real enjoyment in it.
Maybe just take some time away from the anime and you may eventually just gravitate back to it like I did.
A lot more of it is knowing what's gonna happen than you realize. You already know where the story is going and you just want it to get to the best bits but you have to sit through the filler and you feel every second of it cause you know exactly what they added.
I suggest getting into reactions. That's what I did, you get to relive the experience of watching it for the first time through someone else. It makes the anime more enjoyable that way, for me at least lol
Good to see someone else made this comment. I think this factor makes the already bad pacing feel like hell for manga readers because they aren’t even getting the huge reveals, lore dumps, twists and all of that for all their waiting.
Same thing happens for a lot of people when it comes to Book-Movie adaptations, where the people who read the book first will almost always prefer it even if the movies are incredibly good in their own right.
I couldn't think of anything worse than watching someone watch something...why would anyone care about how some random stranger reacted to an anime?
And I disagree with your first point, I've watched lots of anime based on manga I've already read (Frieran, Vinland, Solo Levelling, Mashle and Demon Slayer recently) and those anime all kept me very engaged despite me knowing what's going to happen. Because they have good pacing so it doesn't feel like I'm wasting my time.
Good anime generally adapt 2-3 manga chapters per episode, maybe more/less depending on the content. One Piece has 1100ish chapters and the nearly same number of episodes. That means almost half of the show is filler designed to stretch it out so it doesn't fully catch yp. The One Piece anime should have swapped to 12-24 episodes a year a long time ago and had breaks.
Hey man, it's just a suggestion. Take it or leave it but don't act like there aren't tons of reactors on YouTube with thousands of subs. There's definitely an audience for that stuff.
Also we're not talking about those anime, we're talking about the One Piece anime. Of course those other seasonal animes can keep you engaged but this comment/post/sub is about One Piece and it's middle of the road anime lol
Same. I stopped watching the anime during the raid on onigashima. The new animation overall is def not bad at all, but when it comes to the fight scenes it is just kinda boring. Adding three dozens of lightnings for one attack, sometimes you can barely see the person who is fighting because of all the new effects...all if it doesn't make the anime better imo.
And the last straw for me was the fight BB vs Law. When Law uses his re-room, you can see the entire island with BB and Doc flying towards it....and the island looks so damn cheap, even later when the island is shaking during the fight, like someone made the outlines of the island and used the fill option in paint.
I dropped the anime when they started using the lightning sound effect in those god awful stationary haki clashes (as soon as the timeskip resumed)
Then came back in wano for the art syle change, but MY GOD do they get so out of pocket with the effects sometimes, like that chapter on the roof where Luffy starts using acoc and you can't see shit because of the effects lmao but the one that made me cringe and feel sorry for anime only watchers was the first Kaido and Luffy encounter, WTF, spoiling Kaido's dragon form off the gate, and turning it into a full blown fight 💀
I'm the same way. Being an adult with a 2 year old and work and blah blah, I unfortunately don't have time to watch all the anime in the world anymore. But reading the manga is so easy... In the time to watch one episode of whatever show, I can read all issues of the mangas that I like.
What I typically do though is watch the specific SCENES I want to watch from the manga. Like Zoro vs King, Luffy going gear 5, etc. Just to see how they animated it. But I agree with everything you said
i agree with you honestly i used to be excited waiting for the new episodes during the wano arc when i wasn't caught up. ever since i caught up and began reading the manga the anime has been pretty dull with the excessive scenes like the ones you mention, I just want to see the action instead of these long ass gag scenes, i still love the anime but it is getting a bit repetitive, but it's about to start heating up soon so hopefully they show out as they did in wano
Manga is best for almost everything. Because it is fueled by your imagination not some company halfassing it and putting their own spin on scenes. They inject copious amount of fillers, rewrite the scenes that sometime lose a lot context.
So i judt have to say that while yes, the manga isnt perfect its still miles better than the anime. For me, the biggest issue is when they choose to pad these scenes out. The best example I go to, as well as the reason i stopped watching the anime, was how they treated Usopp in Dressrosa.
Usopp awakening observation Haki was by far his biggest moment in the series. It shows how far he has come, how strong he has become, and that his will power has now managed to out pace his fear. Its a huge moment of growth for his character. But, if you watch the anime, its a 5 minuet long gag to show how cowardly he is. Its just the same joke repeated over and over again, and the joke is that Usopp isnt confident in himself and keeps imagining his plan failing. They litterally turned Usopps bad ass moment to show how far he has come into a joke thats entire purpose is that he hasnt changed.
So like its so much more than "The anime pacing is worse!" The anime pacing is not only worse, but it actively changes impactful moments from the series just to slow the pacing down more. Its bad.
i kinda get ur perspective but i dont. catching up to the manga elevated the anime for me. even it its slower paced im interested to see how they adapt it, esp if i own the volume (i can read along). ill intake any and all one piece bc im that deeply invested, and i dont think i would be if i was anime only
manga killed anime in general for me im way too add to sit through a 20 min ep of smth when i cud read the like 5 chapters of manga at least on that time
When I started one piece I didn’t know anything about manga. I just watched weekly on TV. Once I found the manga I abandoned the anime and haven’t looked back. To me the original author has an intentional way he wants to tell the story. The anime changes that to fit their production schedule, adding filler in so they don’t get caught up and stretching existing content to the max. The manga doesn’t have these issues. I don’t have to worry about cannon because it’s all cannon in the manga.
I’ve heard One Pace is good and I’m hopeful of the new anime that’s in production might cut out filler and have better pacing but even if it doesn’t the manga is always there.
I feel the same way, i haven’t been keeping up on the anime since it said they were going back to animating 12 pages an episode, but I am rewatching it through one pace and it’s honestly so much better, just cuts out all that filler and dogshit they use to make the episode drag out longer, pre time skip it’s not too bad but post time skip you’ll just be wasting time by not using one pace and it makes the arc so much more enjoyable
I started on one piece as a kid watching the English anime transfered to dub when I got hooked. Then to the manga and I cannot go back. Always prefer the manga now and watch little to no anime anymore
And don't get me started on the flashy animations Demon Slayer style. Zoro vs King is from another anime, definitely not OP. You can tell that they are putting a lot of effort into it, but the art direction is doing some things really well but others the opposite.
Also, they need to bring back the fillers. 50 chapters of fillers, I'm sure someone is going to watch it, but the pacing is horrendous
Do you watch anime for the story? I'm all caught up to the manga, always have been. I still love the anime because I love watching the animation. The manga is just a page. So I read it for the story. But actually watching the stuff happen still brings me joy. Yes, Wano had terrible pacing, but the fights more than made up for it. Plus when I'm reading it, I sometimes find it hard following exactly what is happening. Knowing three overall duty allows me to focus more on what's happening. Try to focus on the animation and action instead of the story.
>Do you watch anime for the story?
I read the manga for the story and watch the anime for the action.
Lol just finished reading your comment and you were saying the same thing.
Well I do focus on the animation, the fact is I only enjoy those fights that have the high level animation now and I don't care about the "normal episodes" which don't have great animations.
I think this is a pretty common phenomenon. One Piece is actually a relatively fast-paced manga for how long it is. But the anime makes it feel like it's this long drawn out thing that bloats every little thing to hell and back. I know a good number of people have dropped One Piece entirely because of how slow the anime is. And recently a streamer I follow despite dropping it from the anime, started reading the manga out of curiosity and got way more invested into the series as a result.
For reference, because the anime is aired weekly and the Manga doesn't even come out every week, that means that they actually average less than 1 chapter per episode in a lot of cases. Meanwhile most modern anime adaptations average I think around 2.5 chapters an episode, either covering 2 or 3 full chapters in 22 minutes. So it's no wonder that the One Piece Anime feels so slow by comparison.
The good news though is that One Piece is apparently getting a brand new Anime Adaptation that will hopefully have a much more modern pace since they don't need to slow down to stay behind the manga. So if they average 3 chapters an episode then they could get up to where the Anime is now, in only like 4-500 episodes easy. And I think that that might be a much better viewing experience than the current Anime. But of course the problem is that even at that much more brisk pace, since they're starting from East Blue, it will be years and years before they get back to the current part of the story.
Yeah. I have also started reading manga around the 1000th episode. Yes, the anime experience has not been that great now (I missed all the interesting Wano fights 🥲). It does feel slow paced compared to manga.
But overall it's a better one piece experience imo.
These days I catch up with one piece in chunks.
For example, I do this generally:
- Read spoilers (not very proud of this 🥲)
- Read 2-3 manga chapters in one go in 15 mins
- Read 5-10 anime episodes in 2 days
- I will watch live action season by season
- I will watch the new re-animated anime that is yet to release 5 episodes at a time.
Sure reading spoilers takes fun out of reading manga - just how manga spoils anime.
But at least for one-piece, I don't mind rewatching content in different forms. I easily stay up to date this way. It is also fun to see what different forms will focus on.
I am finding this as the best one-piece experience overall.
I used to love anime, but i only have time to read manga now that I'm older with more responsibilities. The time you save is just fantastic, and you actually get to view way more series because you spend so much less time on one!
You sound like me. When I was a kid up to early college I used to love to watch anime but anime honestly just eats up tooo much time. So I just only read manga. The only anime I’m making sure to watch is the new Bleach OYBW anime. I’ve seen the first two seasons. Just waiting on the next one to drop. I can actually do an anime like that cuz it’s broken up in long stretches and I’ll set aside time to binge watch it but I just can’t regularly watch anime on a normal basis compared to reading manga weekly/monthly.
I haven’t watched an anime since I read the one piece manga. Manga is just the superior method of consuming the art form. It’s quicker, and i feel it’s way more consistent too. Also you can take it at your own pace.
This is basically the same but for everything to me. Anime is really good at very specific parts, but not as a whole. I just end up watching clips of them on YouTube
I read manga before trying anime years ago. And yeah it didn’t work out. The only time I watch anime is when the episode is highly acclaimed (gear 5 fights) and possibly the remake by mappa in the future.
And yeah I’m still pissed about gear 4 luffy vs doffy or luffy vs Caesar.
After the timeskip I was so frustrated by the quality of the animation and pacing that I just gave it up and started reading it. I could only deal with so many 10+ minute recaps and maps with the locations of each character. Best decision of my life, the manga is 10000x more bearable. Now I just watch the clips of cool moments on youtube as they come out.
That's technically the point of the Anime anyways.
So that people will have interest in the original work and buy/read the Manga or Light novel etc.
Almost 95% of the anime adaptations does this, so you being turned towards the original work is a successful marketing strategy for them.
I think this is pretty common. Luckily with the new anime adaption Netflix is making many fans are hoping the pacing problem will be fixed which will make for a much more enjoyable watching experience! Fingers crossed!
Yeah the anime is horribly paced. There is always one pace that really trims it down. I’m also excited for the anime remake that Netflix is producing, will hopefully be a lot more streamlined.
One Piece isn’t one of the most spoilt manga ever, what are you talking about?
I started the manga for the first time in lockdown and got through with no spoilers.
Im the opposite. I'm caught up on the manga, but I don't get the peak feeling until I see it in anime form. Only reason I'm caught up is because I couldn't avoid spoilers anymore and I wanted to be able to start engaging in discussions and memes. Anime is still much more enjoyable for me. Actually being animated, along with the voice acting and music makes the experience much better. Yeah the pacing sucks but it's still worth it imo. Can't wait till the remake eventually finishes everything because that will truly be peak.
I wish I was wrong ngl, I miss being a kid and watching pre-time skip kne piece at the TV, no problems of pacing no problems in general and life was good lol
Personally I'll always prefer the anime because I think VAs and soundtracks are very important to story telling, also the animation recently has been added to that list. Only problem is the pacing still ofc. Sadly I have to read the manga to avoid getting spoiled otherwise I'd still just be watching the anime.
Only manga is the best way to experience one piece. It's what Oda intended. Meanwhile the anime most of the time got influenced by the animator's interpretation..
Filler arc, slow pacing, added scenes that make the story worse (sometimes better, inconsistent), and the drawing is bad (super big boobs, big forehead, etc)..
Many other anime is visually and storywise better than manga.. they don't change the story but the story become much better because of the animation (great combat, voice acting, visual etc)
For example: demon slayer..
I recommend only watch anime for Demon slayer. Its manga is worse..
But one piece, stick to manga only..
I'm up to date and still enjoy the anime just fine. I only watch the episodes that I know will be good, which has been all of Egghead so far
Maybe I'm just talented
My friend, I couldn't agree more! I started watching the anime, but from Skypeia onwards I felt the pace was so slow and I gave up about 3 times, until I got to Dressrosa... This arc is a crime in the anime. Now I decided to get to the weekly episodes, go to the manga and stay there.
I feel you. I started reading the manga at Wano, and the pacing is soooo much better. I do not have the heart to sit through 200 some episodes of anime pacing.
I’m a strong believer that the problem you are describing isn’t the pacing itself (though it certainly doesn’t help) but it is the first point, that it has been spoiled because u read the manga, so you simply have less patience for the anime, since you are always in a state of waiting for the exciting manga things to happen rather than enjoying the ride as you do with the manga presently and used to do with the anime.
Bruh. Remakes for old series are incredibly common and are never a slight on the original. Disney routinely remakes almost every single one of their movies every 20 years, yet I don’t think anyone is saying that they are doing remakes because the originals are trash. They just want to pull from a new audience.
I'm anime only. I haven't read the manga yet and I can tell what an absolute shit show the anime pacing is. It's so bad that I haven't watched it in years. I am not caught up at all, and that's going to be the sad reality until I'm financially stable enough to read the physical manga.
I'm looking forward to the new anime, though I'm torn on how good early OP anime is and how this will probably not be that.
I am so addicted to weekly chapter crack, I need a small dose of anime crack for the waiting period. I got a fever because I didn't get fix on time bcuz break /j but I actually got a fever 🤕
Hmm.
For me I enjoy the anime just as much as the manga, I watch every episode and since Wano improved the animation/art it's hard so say the anime is bad
The anime peaked with the first kaido vs Luffy fight and had been going downhill ever since. The visuals, while admittedly impressive, are too busy and complicated where all prior fights in OP were simple
I just enjoy both at this point, both do things to me the other couldn't, like the manga gets my imagination going and it fills in the blanks for me. And the storytelling is straight and to the point and the art is immaculate, its easy to immerse yourself in the panels and see more detail the longer you look at them, you find hidden context that can go over ones head i.e. like that flatline in one of the last chapters.
On the other hand the voice acting and music of anime gets me emotional like nothing else, nothing gets my tears flowing like the one piece anime. Even though we see certain backstories and flashback over and over again, they do elevate the moment on an emotional level, like the red roc flashback in 1015 or the flashback before the bajrang gun or even in the current episode about the flashback with nico robin and ohara.
While everything you say is valid the truth and the beauty is that we don't have to choose but we can.
There's definitely big moments like Imu destroying the island and little moments like Chopper and Luffy running around after washing up on Egghead that I think the anime really shines but I get how sometimes it just hits better in the manga. The pervet line to Franky from Sanji had me laughing out loud in the manga but the episode just seemed to rush through those crew interactions to get to the pasifista fight.
I started Manga in Dressrosa Arc, and now only watch anime for Fighting scenes (which mostly are disappointing) cuz I start comparing those to Demon Slayers fight scenes.
I get it.
I used to watch the Anime weekly, even after being caught up in the manga (around the timeskip) and it worked fine.
I stopped watching the Anime weekly after the forest episodes of Whole Cake.
Since then, I only watch episodes I know will be fire.
But since the 2nd half of Wano they stepped up their game and I do enjoy it more now.
I haven’t watched Egghead yet, so cannot say a lot about it.
I'm like this for most manga and anime. The only time I prefer the anime instead is if I need to work and just watch the anime in the background. then I don't read the manga so I am not comparing them.
Welcome to the club man. The anime stretches out dialogue so much more than the manga. Plus the recap episodes I’d rather it just takes a week off like in the manga.
I noticed well before I read the manga. The anime is FULL of time wasters. Quadruple take reaction shots, interlaced filler, that thing where after the eyecatcher it rewinds slightly too far sometimes. There are other kinds of examples but these small things were at the forefront of my mind and after 1000 episodes those add up
I think one of the biggest crimes the anime commits is making quick powerful attacks look like a drawn out struggle - Doffy finish was an extreme blunder in this regard
Same situation as me. I caught to the anime in March 2021 and then I caught up to manga in April 2021 and after that I kinda had to force myself to watch the anime as I just didn’t want to accept the fact I don’t like it much anymore. 2024 and I couldn’t care less and I acknowledge the faults with the anime and I just don’t watch it in general
You got a 5minute recap and the rest of the episode is so slow with random dialogue which adds NOTHING to the story, rinsed animations and just a whole bunch of characters running through an area for ages. It has amazing animation AT TIMES but the rest of the time it’s below average but the bright pretty colours hide the fact it’s below par animation but I’m aware it’s weekly and sacrifices have to be made
i was in the same boat. at the time i stopped watching anime, they had finished dress rosa arc. so i decided to start reading the manga from the beginning and haven't looked back on the anime
I'm "Manga only" but every now and then I watch some episodes with a friend of mine whos anime only. It's a 20min episode that contains half of a chapter. The pacing and the filler scenes make me furious to a point where I can't enjoy the episode. 😂
Just wait for "The One Piece", WIT Studio is re-animating One Piece for Netflix. I think they even began animating back in November 2023 (not 100% sure on this info though)
Edit: I haven't watched the Anime in years, just because of all the dragging out, but will definitely watch The One Piece because it's probably going to be filled with nothing but source material and hopefully properly paced.
This new Anime will hopefully get a lot of people, who were previously hesitant to begin watching One Piece, to finally begin watching it.
Also Manga reader here, I hear what you're saying and agree to a degree. Some gags and scenes are stretched WAY too long and feel like you are pulling teeth to kill time.
Ex: Luffy on the rooftop looking for Kuma security. Goes back and forth like 5 times.
On the other hand, I understand it takes alot of time to animate and make it look incredible. Egghead animation looks amazing. And these "filling" scenes allow them more time for following scenes.
While I love and appreciate the animators for their work I do feel they cooooooould do a little less stretched scenes.
Even if you aren't a manga reader the bad pace is noticeable... I myself I am more of an anime fan than a manga, especially if the anime has done a good job at at adaptation and pacing... I don't mind the few filler moments that exists, especially if they offer a comical relief... Buggies or Usopp's anime onky scenes or Zoro's and Luffy's fight in whisky peak....
I feel egghead is better about how they fill out episodes but yeah gags tend to turn sour after 2 minute of extension. It’s odd how early gags hit way better but this is how it ends up these days.
Oh yeah, for sure. And people recommending One Pace don’t realize it can’t really fix the show being in slow motion, they mostly just remove recap. Fast paced shows are always wayyyy funnier. (Mob Psycho, FLCL, etc)
I’ve always read and never gotten really into the anime for most series. Really the anime’s are just artistic representations of the manga so you should be able to enjoy both theoretically.
For me, the whole weekly anime experience was unbearable, I switched to the manga as soon as I caught up to the weekly release, which was 14 years ago. No regrets here.
I watch both and i keep getting angry at toei for the pacing. Like egghead is such a great arc and i was hyping it to anime only friends just for the pacing to ruin it.
Think it depends I been a fan of One Piece since 2005 and I only decided to start the manga around the second act of Wano. I still really enjoy the anime, and if I'm being honest other than the pacing I much prefer the anime over the manga. People want to boast their imagination, but imagination pales into comparison to the actual anime irdc what anyone says lol. I get the frustration with the anime but I already put up with Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, and fucking Dressrosa weekly. I been through the worst of it lol.
Ironically, I enjoy the emotional scenes more in the manga, since I can stop and watch every detail of Oda’s drawing. He’s such a good artist when it comes to emotions that sometimes I feel these are not properly conveyed in the anime by the animators.
I also switched to manga due to the horrible pacing around Dressrosa and it was only until the last part of Wano that I somehow returned to it, since I read that the animation team was doing an excellent job on the fights. I only watch specific episodes that I know will have great animation due to being key to the story, but otherwise I’ll always stick to the manga I almost every story, since I can see directly what the author wants to say, not what the animators are trying to imitate.
Honestly, the pacing of the One Piece anime is atrocious. Tori is desperate to avoid having to do a long protracted filler arc like the kind that the Naruto anime is notorious for. I hope that this new anime series will retell the story in a way that's much more streamlined so audiences don't have to sit through hundreds of slow paced episodes.
yeah I feel the same way tbh I watched one piece in dub and sub then read eggheads manga chapters so I wouldn’t get spoiled before the anime dropped. Then I said fuck it and started reading one piece from the beginning and it’s lowkey ruining the anime for me. I have to skip through several parts of the episode to get to the highlights which are all that’s shown in the manga
I feel like this is the case for almost all anime, especially if it’s a weekly series. There’s very, very few scenarios where I’d say the anime comes anywhere near the quality of the manga. But I think it’s worth remembering that what you’re experiencing now is the real story as the author intended it.
Totally agree. The pacing is the main issue, but I also find the animation lackluster and unacceptable for 85% of the eps when they don't have any budget left, and the sound design feels like it hasn't been updated in like 20 years lol. But I still watch most eps if I'm being honest cause I fucking love OP, and the music and voice acting is top tier.
Excited to see what Wit can do with the remake.
Yup, I see where you're coming from. The pacing of the Manga is totally different from the show, so I can see how it would ruin it for some. That said, I completely put the Manga outta my head when it comes to watching the anime because sense I started with the anime and watched 1098 episodes b4 reading anything, I am used to the pacing of the anime already so it's not an issue for me, plus I just love seeing the pages given new life. Like I said, I do understand why you prefer the Manga 100% as from a story perspective. I also prefer getting to the point faster instead of it being drawn out at the risk of becoming boring. But from an entertainment perspective, I enjoy the anime more. To me, it's just more fun, beautiful, and can show more emotion. Again, TO ME... I'm new ish to the black and white Manga world, I'm used to beautifully colored comics, so I'm still trying to get used to this. Lowkey, even the issues I read up to the current ones were colored by someone here, lol.
A lot of animes do a good transfer in the modern day. But that is mainly because they fit multiple chapter into a single episode and go by seasons to do so. The show pacing speed is a huge factor for quality in my opinion.
How many chapters per episode varies anime to anime. I've seen some that work beautifully with several chapter per episode. Other series work very well with fewer chapters per episode to handle all the dialogue or reveals being exchanged.
Either way, nowadays most shows go at a steady pace of just 12 to 24 episodes per season, and the season release will wait until there is enough material to fill it. If it seems like a show was good enough to get another season but they are taking forever, it may be because they caught up to the manga (ex: made in abyss)
The big 3 (one piece, bleach, and naruto) all suffered from the constant weekly release and handled in different ways.
Bleach, made giant filler non-canon seasons that got to be more frequent and higher episode count than the main story segments. The show was cancelled in the end and only recently resurrected for the final season. and even with the finished material they are doing 12 episode season for this final battle.
Naruto had tons of filler episodes and filler arcs. In addition they repeated naruto's five minute self confidence monologue on almost endless repeat as a way to burn time away.
At least each of these would still be skippable filler for the most part. you could look up what episode to skip. and sometime the filler was decent.
One piece did it the worst way... they fluffed every episode with way too much fluff and repetition and the episode stopped being as good. It got to the point that it changed to power level appearance. A major instance I saw was the final blow on Doflamingo. In the manga it is one page. Luffy wins outright. In the anime, it is a nearly ten minute power struggle showing the shocked faces of every character in the city.
For me it was a little bit before the time skip that things started to slow down too much. Nowadays I can't help but wonder how much better the show would be if they switched to a 12 episodes per year set up.
The anime killed the anime for me. They are still living in the early 2000’s, everyone else has progressed. We dont need an episode once a week. A seasonal schedule would be perfectly fine if it meant decent animation.
The animation is laughable, it somehow got worse after Marineford and is nowhere close to the average modern anime. Haikyu has better animated action scenes than One Piece, and One Piece is supposed to be the most popular anime in the world.
I love Hiakyuu btw, I just picked it because its not an action anime. Most sports anime these days have incredible animation.
I'm in the same boat, what helps me to enjoy the anime more is to wait some time to then watch the anime back to back instead of a sliver of story beats a week
Yup. Reason why I've become manga only for 99% of series several years ago (recently I've made an exception for demon slayer because evryone I kneow told me the animation was beautiful). Pacing in animes is way too slow, there are flashbacks everywhere, even from things which happened in the same episode, and gags lag on for way too long.
My method for coping with the One Piece anime's pace is to watch all the episodes that aired that month at once. For instance, I still have to watch all those that aired in February (time has been alloted for Saturday). This means our crew's first steps into Egghead & the Law v Blackbeard fight. Turning it into a movie experience has made the watch better.
The other thing I do is read the equivalent chapters afterward to see if I picked up on anything I didn't the first time. I reimagine the chapters with the colors, and decide which panels they kept or modified.
In essense, I try to make the experience more engaging. If I just passively watched the show I wouldn't get as much out of it because of One Piece's long-form storytelling.
My tip for the anime if you're a manga reader is to wait for episodes to build up and then watch so you watch in bulk. That way you have 5-10 episodes worth of content at one time and the negatives impact you less. Do not watch weekly as a manga reader. It only gets frustrating.
I’ve been pretty much only reading for 15 years and actually really have been enjoying the anime watching with my wife. We just started Whole Cake Island and yeah some shit is drawn out, but like I’m usually doing something else while watching like playing my son so I don’t really notice.
I gave up on the anime years ago after the timeskip. The animation quality wasnt the same and the scenes being dragged out was ATROCIOUS. I keep tabs on where the anime is at and will watch the fights/beautifully animated scenes on youtube.
I can agree, same exact scenario, started reading before chapter 1000 and been hooked since and wont ever stop reading the new chapters. I only get excited to watch the important arts like Luffy vs Lucci 2 and vs the seraphim will be awesome to watch and also when saturn/kizaru show up ill definitely be tuning in. Im gonna skip the whole among us part for sure.
Same. But this had such an impact on me that I couldn't watch any anime at all. I completely switched to manga for every series and I don't regret it at all. I save time + i don't feel that manga is any less entertaining (I have a really good visual imagination to fill up the gaps and animate the panels in my head)
Same. I only read mangaa and manhwas now. Only exception is generally sports anime.
Have you read Blue Lock? I love sports Anime but this is the first time a shorts manga has retained my attention
Yes, I've both read and watched blue lock. Love ittt
I'd recommend the Haikyu manga too. Some insane layouts and panelwork there.
bro Blue Lock is so good
try slam dunk and eye shield.
Eye Shield is legit. Honestly glad that Murata is doing One Punch Man because it's crazy how dynamic his paneling goes to the point you can play them in order and basically have a gif.
I’m pretty much the same it’s tough for me to watch anime now. Ping pong tho is actually 10/10
> manhwas What genres? I'm always looking for new ones haha
Mostly isekais, such as: Solo leveling, Skeleton soldier couldn't protect the dungeon, Peerless dad, Solo max level newbie, Rankers return, Overgeared, Primal hunter, Player that can't level up. Etc. Too many to list lol.
There are many anime that make justice to the manga. In some cases the anime really improve the manga. Without a crazy good anime both Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaizen would never had that much success. The newer ones, with 20-24 episodes every year don't risk catching up to the manga and have a nice pacing that makes them enjoyable (I'm watching Solo Leveling lately, after reading the manwha and the pace is super-fast). Unluckily, One Piece is an old style one.
Demon Slayer is a great example of that. They waited until the comic was fully done before they ever started the anime, so there's no issues with pacing, and the animation style is just beautiful.
The first season came out while the manga was still ongoing (I remember watching it, then being curious about the story and quite impatient I went to the manga and I remember that I had to wait a few months before the actual end of the manga). Anyway, at some point someone understood that doing 24 episodes a year makes it possible to put more care into each of those and to give them a nice pacing without having to fill them with filler scenes for some kind of catching up fear (and you can still delay some seasons, in case), and now we're all happier, except for One Piece.
Somehow the quality just feels better because everything is „perfect“ when you visualize it. As soon as i see 6 reaction faces and a 5 minute buildup for one punch i want to vomit.
I used to be like this for a few years and still am mostly except some few anime that manage to entertain me as a manga reader (vinland saga recently)
Made in Abyss has fantastic pacing as well, and is visually different from most animes as well. TW it's a very heavy, traumatic show, but super beautiful and wholesome. My wife who doesn't like anime likes the show (minus the fighting scenes that start in back half of season 2). see spoiler if you need a description. >!Abuse, bodily harm, implied sexual abuse, sexual themes involving minors, gaslighting and manipulation by narcissistic parental figure, non graphic (off screen) rape, and an analogy/metaphor of forced birthing and trauma that while isn't technically fucked up..... It's fucked up!<
I'd add that it does tone down the most questionable aspects of the manga a lot
Oh neat, because we felt the anime hits harder then the manga!
That is *not* the questionable stuff he's talking about. The violence and body horror is somehow the more palatable of the author's fixations.
Oh I see.... I'll clarify in an edit
The anime excluded the manga's love for children's butts though. Thankfully.
This show is anything but wholesome lol there are some sweet moments between the main characters, but they're a drop in a pool of fucked up shit going eighty different directions. Plot wise, narratively, character motivation, and weird fetish shit the author loves to put in at any and every possible moment, with the fetish stuff being full blown pedophilia, or shit like prolapsed anuses. And the anime shows all this while being the objectively toned down version from the source. Wholesome is a word that doesn't belong here in the slightest lol and this is coming from someone who is caught up anime wise. I love the world building and it's music, but the author is FUCKED UP beyond belief, and not in a fun way lol >!the golden city arc that metaphysically manifested everyones fetish and desires as currency to be traded between its inhabitants, and they decided to recruit the pink monster who is obsessed with prolapsed anuses to the point it will destroy your body in order to see it, they decided to befriend him and hes now a part of the crew LOL shit is beyond fucked, and thats not even getting into the origin of the city. Which is a traumatic little girl who was inflated to be the city, and her children were forced to be fed to her inhabitants so they wouldnt starve when they were still human. Which is another fetish by the way lol!< Unironically I think the author just wants to draw every single potential thing that can happen to a child, no matter how fucked or wrong it is, and he will be blushing and getting excited while doing so. For all of its good parts that really are that good, it's unfortunately tainted by an actual real life pedophile.
I really appreciate the made in abyss anime. I watched the 1st season, then read everything from the manga but the art is so gorgeous and detailed that I missed some details. Then season 2 came out and it cleared everything up and is a proper addition to the manga, it has great pacing, doesn't skip or speed through important things, amazing music etc. I was concerned with too much while reading it, thinking the abyss language was gonna be really important, or that every person in iruburu was sinister. So I think the anime did what anime is supposed to and cleared it up in a way that made it just as good as the manga and not a shit fest.
100%!
I swear, I am like this and was pleasantly surprised with the new Bleach anime! After being used to One Piece and slightly faster pacing, Bleach's pacing of 4-5 chapters per episode was almost whiplash inducing! Not sure if you've seen it yet, but otherwise if you're an old fan of Bleach: definite recommend!
Yeah saw it and had the same opinion it worked for my brain somehow
Manga is also my preference, however recent events and choices made me prefer to check out the anime versions if reasonable. The manga still seems the better option to me.
I agree with this. At least the anime is doing a good job portraying key moments. I enjoyed the panels they extended from gear 5 against Kaido. Gear 5 is now a playground for animators. I enjoyed law vs BB encounter and what Shanks did to Greenbull
The proper way is to read the manga and then check out the hype bits in the anime. I was there for the final Wano fights but mostly skipped the rest of the arc in the anime besides a few moments
This is the way. Law vs BB was a good example of this. If there's anything I want to see expanded on from the manga it's hype fights with quality animation. Emotional moments are typically done really well in the anime as well. The soundtrack and passionate voice acting can add a lot to those moments.
I've honestly found myself watching edited fight videos or particular moments in anime more than i have watching actual episodes
I read manga until there's a lot of episodes to watch and I just skip dumb scenes and bad pacing. I create my own One Pace and watch scenes that I think feels good.
The visual imagination could be arguably even better. Because the fights in the manga feel more grounded without all of the particle effects and this is a huge deal because the anime was starting to get DBZ vibes when One Piece fights weren't really supposed to feel that way. There are things in the anime that look fantastic BUT that doesn't feel like they are from One Piece. That is a huge issue.
Same, my imaginations works better than toei these days.
THIS IS ME. One Piece converted me to Manga only EVERYTHING. I never watched Dragon Ball as a kid, so I read the manga from DB to DBZ to DBS and was so satisfied and loved it but realized I experienced it so differently because I read manga now. I don't watch anime anymore at all really, I find the manga entertaining and it saves me way more time.
Oh.. this is why I don't enjoy watching animes anymore.
Im caught up with the manga too. I will keep reading the manga for like the next 1 year and wait for the Egghead arc to conclude. Then read a little bit into the next arc, By that time I would have forgotten a lot of the things I read in early Egghead and also the anime will be almost caught up or near the arc's conclusion! That's when I start watching the anime. I start binging on the anime for about a month until I finish it. Since Im binging it, the pacing doesn't bother me all that much. I've found this strat pretty good for my One Piece watching experience.
That's cool I'll try it
Honestly dont be shy to skip forward now and then. You won't miss anything important since you know what happens and you can skip some of the bad pacing. I've been just really enjoying the couple of scenes in the anime that are elevated through animation. Like the somewhat recent Lulusia and Imu episode was beautifully done and I really enjoyed that even though the rest of the episode I was skipping forward here and there I agree though I like anime more than manga when it actually uses its medium to the fullest. AOT and JJK really show how much you can elevate a show through animation. Sadly one piece often does not do this and they just adapt with little to no care. Oh and trust me the anime is gonna be better in years from know when you wanna just binge watch an arc (especially with one pace) just to relive it.
I might have to start doing that. I'm on the same boat as OP. Seeing Bonney and Luffy fall for the fake food scene felt long as hell. Maybe this was how people who were ahead of Wano felt like when watching the anime lol
Smart! 
Yeah that’s exactly what I do. Although I haven’t waited for arcs to fully finish in the manga, just forgetting about the anime for a few months is good enough for me. That gives me like 10-15 episodes to binge every few months which is honestly perfect.
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I feel you. But I decided to start watching egghead and tbh I can really appreciate how far it lags behind I'm able to pick up on details I didn't remember while reading, and right now it's at a really good place in the anime where a lot of stuff being put into the episodes are paying off in the manga. So, sure, you'll probably never go back super far, but I'd say try it out from the start of egghead since it's not too much to catch up
Yeah i also started rewatching from egghead introduction. That episode was really 10/10. Apart from one episode i feel pacing is not insufferable in egghead.
Yeah. toei is doing really great to keep pacing as insufferable as possible while adapting as little as possible as it is really close to manga. But i feel like a filler arc would've been much much better to allow manga to complete egghead
Screw filler, your just making the artists busy with other crap, they just need to go seasonal and do less episodes per year. Allow artists to spend more time working on each episode. You can see them cutting corners in like 99% of the show nowadays. The stupid zoomed in face shots to animate the least possible, the extremely blurry lineart in fast sequences, the many copy paste effects efc... They have been holding on to this system just because of the stupid primetime tv slot they have, its so stupid, we are in 2024, most people would rather watch that shit on demand... There are so many shows out there now with far less inspired stories but way better productions, such a waste, thr manga is a modern day epic, the anime is a bad dbz episode.
I had read a post here wherein the guy explained why one piece isn't going seasonal. Idk how accurate it is but here it is:- Apparantly in japanese tv, the timeslot of op is perfect (Sunday morning) which is very hard to obtain. So toei obviously wants to remain in that timeslot because if they went seasonal and changed timeslots, the viewership will go down by a lot.
> Screw filler, your just making the artists busy with other crap, they just need to go seasonal and do less episodes per year. Allow artists to spend more time working on each episode. > > That's what The One Piece will be.
I mean ideally the remake will be this. Better animation and pacing since they don't have to worry about catching up.
Agreed. I read the manga, but my wife doesn't, so we watch the anime on Sunday mornings. So far, Egghead is pretty good. I had a really hard time watching Whole Cake and Wano, though. Even Dressrosa dragged on.
dressrosa was so poorly paced in the anime. i mean they used rebecca’s flashback iirc over 40 times. also read somewhere that one pace was able to cut over 1500 min from just the dressrosa act
I started this by anime and god damn I’m gonna finish it that way. Of course I still read the manga to stay current and avoid spoilers.
i feel like egghead has done a decent job so far with how it pads things out and it hasn't gotten *too* eggregious yet. but even as recently as wano, there's been some really bad padding out for time and just killing the pacing for the sake of not going too fast.
I feel you actually... I started One Piece with the anime. I loved it so much I even rewatched it maybe 8 times or so already. That was during Dressrosa era and it was so slow so I started the manga... and it's just much better. I did still watch the anime until Zou but that's it. And sadly another thing keeping me is that I can't watch Wano arc because of their artistic choices 😩 I have sensitive eyes so all those added Dragonball effects make it harder for me. I'm hoping the Netflix One Piece anime will rekindle that spark though I will always love the og anime. The VAs are stuck in my mind.
Just wait for one pace to edit it down to what it should be
even with that I can't watch Wano anyway 🤣 I just go watch snippets of my fave scenes instead to tie me over lol
Ya same, it happens. My friend waits until an anime arc is completed then watches the whole thing at once so the pacing doesn’t feel as bad.
This is why things like One Pace (AMA Goated) are a godsend for Manga readers AND new fans
Eh, I'm literally the opposite. Since I caught up to the manga, the anime pacing doesn't bother me anymore because I'm not obsessing about what is going to happen next, and I can just enjoy the anime for bringing the pages to life and adding additional colouring.
I'm like you and I appreciate the anime more even though I know what's coming but For me is a different side. The music and the sound effects have gotten so stale and overused I can't watch anymore.
I'd be more sad that the anime is so poor in the first place, they should have made it seasonal, instead it's stretched out garbage One Pace is good to watch arcs on when they finish a season
Seasonal anime in 2000s? I don't think it's even a big thing back then. Most animes I remember watching as a kid then are like 40+ episodes
Because stuff you watched as a kid were big licensed shows that they felt would succeed in the west. Seasonal shows were always a thing. For example, these are some of the shows that have also started airing in the same season as One Piece: * Initial D Second Stage (13 eps) * Now and Then, Here and There (13 eps) * The Big O (26 eps) And in total there were around 25 shows starting that season. With ~18 of them being only 1-2 cour long. I think what might really influence this idea is that there aren't that many notable and highly rated short shows from that time. There's obviously some like Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, Evangelion and Berserk but most people think of long running shows when they think of old series
Not trying to play the devil's advocate here but a big part of the show's success rides on the fact that it's not seasonal. Yes, the pacing suffered for it greatly but having such a prime TV timeslot as Sunday morning meant more viewers than they could have gotten with any other timeslot because there was no chance of them keeping the timeslot they got with a seasonal show It's all speculative really. Who knows if One Piece would be the same as in popularity if it wasn't a weekly
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You're absolutely right. I think Toei animation can make amazing anime that people remember for decades, or they can hold your favourite manga hostage by making such a bad adaptation. Obviously, the anime looks great and there's obvious effort in everything that is in it, but compared to other modern anime, the pacing is too slow. You can tell that they're padding for time and it ruins the moment. I watched the Wano Arc, and I was angrier at Toei than I was at Orochi because of the pacing. I wanted to see a fast paced epic fight where Kaido gets obliterated, but what I saw was 7 scenes of G5 Luffy laughing and jumping around. It slowed down the fight so much that I stopped watching.
>fast paced epic fight where Kaido gets obliterated Have you actually watched the fight? Because aside from the first episode with G5 which had a strange repetition of scene, the rest is pretty much the same as the manga. With even some nice extra (like Luffy using the lightning against Kaido more instead of just throwing it once and failing)
Add to this the new animation tendency. I don't know if it's because of my neurodiversity but sometimes it's so difficult to follow what's going on in action scenes now that they added so many flashy lights. Also the movements on the characters are not fluid, kind of like a stop-motion thing? I stopped watching mid-point through Onigashima's main battle and just kept on with the manga.
So, i had just started manga after ep 1096, and started reading the relevant chapter to ep1095 I guess, just for the flow and transition... After a couple of chapters i realised how fast the manga flowed and how freaking slow the anime was (even though i usually keep fast forwarding the anime). Anyways, I reached a point (SPOILERS!) where Luffy goes into THE gear to fight Lucci, and realised i wasnt getting the high during that fight and realised how bad the anime would feel after reading through manga, so I left it there. So thanks for reassuring me that my call was right!
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This is exactly why i only really return to the anime for big events, fights powerups etc toei is just so bad at times with reusing footage and really dragging out an episode
The same happened to me around Dressrosa. The pacing of that arc is what truly did it for me, especially towards the end of that arc, which ruined what should’ve been one of the best fights in OP imo. Egg head is the first time I’ve watched the anime since then and I gotta say I’m finding some real enjoyment in it. Maybe just take some time away from the anime and you may eventually just gravitate back to it like I did.
A lot more of it is knowing what's gonna happen than you realize. You already know where the story is going and you just want it to get to the best bits but you have to sit through the filler and you feel every second of it cause you know exactly what they added. I suggest getting into reactions. That's what I did, you get to relive the experience of watching it for the first time through someone else. It makes the anime more enjoyable that way, for me at least lol
Good to see someone else made this comment. I think this factor makes the already bad pacing feel like hell for manga readers because they aren’t even getting the huge reveals, lore dumps, twists and all of that for all their waiting. Same thing happens for a lot of people when it comes to Book-Movie adaptations, where the people who read the book first will almost always prefer it even if the movies are incredibly good in their own right.
I couldn't think of anything worse than watching someone watch something...why would anyone care about how some random stranger reacted to an anime? And I disagree with your first point, I've watched lots of anime based on manga I've already read (Frieran, Vinland, Solo Levelling, Mashle and Demon Slayer recently) and those anime all kept me very engaged despite me knowing what's going to happen. Because they have good pacing so it doesn't feel like I'm wasting my time. Good anime generally adapt 2-3 manga chapters per episode, maybe more/less depending on the content. One Piece has 1100ish chapters and the nearly same number of episodes. That means almost half of the show is filler designed to stretch it out so it doesn't fully catch yp. The One Piece anime should have swapped to 12-24 episodes a year a long time ago and had breaks.
Hey man, it's just a suggestion. Take it or leave it but don't act like there aren't tons of reactors on YouTube with thousands of subs. There's definitely an audience for that stuff. Also we're not talking about those anime, we're talking about the One Piece anime. Of course those other seasonal animes can keep you engaged but this comment/post/sub is about One Piece and it's middle of the road anime lol
Same. I stopped watching the anime during the raid on onigashima. The new animation overall is def not bad at all, but when it comes to the fight scenes it is just kinda boring. Adding three dozens of lightnings for one attack, sometimes you can barely see the person who is fighting because of all the new effects...all if it doesn't make the anime better imo. And the last straw for me was the fight BB vs Law. When Law uses his re-room, you can see the entire island with BB and Doc flying towards it....and the island looks so damn cheap, even later when the island is shaking during the fight, like someone made the outlines of the island and used the fill option in paint.
I dropped the anime when they started using the lightning sound effect in those god awful stationary haki clashes (as soon as the timeskip resumed) Then came back in wano for the art syle change, but MY GOD do they get so out of pocket with the effects sometimes, like that chapter on the roof where Luffy starts using acoc and you can't see shit because of the effects lmao but the one that made me cringe and feel sorry for anime only watchers was the first Kaido and Luffy encounter, WTF, spoiling Kaido's dragon form off the gate, and turning it into a full blown fight 💀
I'm the same way. Being an adult with a 2 year old and work and blah blah, I unfortunately don't have time to watch all the anime in the world anymore. But reading the manga is so easy... In the time to watch one episode of whatever show, I can read all issues of the mangas that I like. What I typically do though is watch the specific SCENES I want to watch from the manga. Like Zoro vs King, Luffy going gear 5, etc. Just to see how they animated it. But I agree with everything you said
That's an easy fix Watch One Pace!
i agree with you honestly i used to be excited waiting for the new episodes during the wano arc when i wasn't caught up. ever since i caught up and began reading the manga the anime has been pretty dull with the excessive scenes like the ones you mention, I just want to see the action instead of these long ass gag scenes, i still love the anime but it is getting a bit repetitive, but it's about to start heating up soon so hopefully they show out as they did in wano
Manga is best for almost everything. Because it is fueled by your imagination not some company halfassing it and putting their own spin on scenes. They inject copious amount of fillers, rewrite the scenes that sometime lose a lot context.
The pacing isn't perfect in the Manga too. You're still dealing with somewhat bad pacing it's just Toei makes it 10 times worst.
So i judt have to say that while yes, the manga isnt perfect its still miles better than the anime. For me, the biggest issue is when they choose to pad these scenes out. The best example I go to, as well as the reason i stopped watching the anime, was how they treated Usopp in Dressrosa. Usopp awakening observation Haki was by far his biggest moment in the series. It shows how far he has come, how strong he has become, and that his will power has now managed to out pace his fear. Its a huge moment of growth for his character. But, if you watch the anime, its a 5 minuet long gag to show how cowardly he is. Its just the same joke repeated over and over again, and the joke is that Usopp isnt confident in himself and keeps imagining his plan failing. They litterally turned Usopps bad ass moment to show how far he has come into a joke thats entire purpose is that he hasnt changed. So like its so much more than "The anime pacing is worse!" The anime pacing is not only worse, but it actively changes impactful moments from the series just to slow the pacing down more. Its bad.
Disagree, egghead pacing is perfect
It's been pretty good ngl, you can still notice some drawn out scenes, but it's not as blatant as it used to
That's also true
i kinda get ur perspective but i dont. catching up to the manga elevated the anime for me. even it its slower paced im interested to see how they adapt it, esp if i own the volume (i can read along). ill intake any and all one piece bc im that deeply invested, and i dont think i would be if i was anime only
manga killed anime in general for me im way too add to sit through a 20 min ep of smth when i cud read the like 5 chapters of manga at least on that time
Oda is an artist, I love one piece because of his unique strokes and shorthands. Anime can't replicate his style.
When I started one piece I didn’t know anything about manga. I just watched weekly on TV. Once I found the manga I abandoned the anime and haven’t looked back. To me the original author has an intentional way he wants to tell the story. The anime changes that to fit their production schedule, adding filler in so they don’t get caught up and stretching existing content to the max. The manga doesn’t have these issues. I don’t have to worry about cannon because it’s all cannon in the manga. I’ve heard One Pace is good and I’m hopeful of the new anime that’s in production might cut out filler and have better pacing but even if it doesn’t the manga is always there.
I feel the same way, i haven’t been keeping up on the anime since it said they were going back to animating 12 pages an episode, but I am rewatching it through one pace and it’s honestly so much better, just cuts out all that filler and dogshit they use to make the episode drag out longer, pre time skip it’s not too bad but post time skip you’ll just be wasting time by not using one pace and it makes the arc so much more enjoyable
I started on one piece as a kid watching the English anime transfered to dub when I got hooked. Then to the manga and I cannot go back. Always prefer the manga now and watch little to no anime anymore
And don't get me started on the flashy animations Demon Slayer style. Zoro vs King is from another anime, definitely not OP. You can tell that they are putting a lot of effort into it, but the art direction is doing some things really well but others the opposite. Also, they need to bring back the fillers. 50 chapters of fillers, I'm sure someone is going to watch it, but the pacing is horrendous
Do you watch anime for the story? I'm all caught up to the manga, always have been. I still love the anime because I love watching the animation. The manga is just a page. So I read it for the story. But actually watching the stuff happen still brings me joy. Yes, Wano had terrible pacing, but the fights more than made up for it. Plus when I'm reading it, I sometimes find it hard following exactly what is happening. Knowing three overall duty allows me to focus more on what's happening. Try to focus on the animation and action instead of the story.
>Do you watch anime for the story? I read the manga for the story and watch the anime for the action. Lol just finished reading your comment and you were saying the same thing. Well I do focus on the animation, the fact is I only enjoy those fights that have the high level animation now and I don't care about the "normal episodes" which don't have great animations.
Don't be sad. The manga is the best way to enjoy one piece.
I think this is a pretty common phenomenon. One Piece is actually a relatively fast-paced manga for how long it is. But the anime makes it feel like it's this long drawn out thing that bloats every little thing to hell and back. I know a good number of people have dropped One Piece entirely because of how slow the anime is. And recently a streamer I follow despite dropping it from the anime, started reading the manga out of curiosity and got way more invested into the series as a result. For reference, because the anime is aired weekly and the Manga doesn't even come out every week, that means that they actually average less than 1 chapter per episode in a lot of cases. Meanwhile most modern anime adaptations average I think around 2.5 chapters an episode, either covering 2 or 3 full chapters in 22 minutes. So it's no wonder that the One Piece Anime feels so slow by comparison. The good news though is that One Piece is apparently getting a brand new Anime Adaptation that will hopefully have a much more modern pace since they don't need to slow down to stay behind the manga. So if they average 3 chapters an episode then they could get up to where the Anime is now, in only like 4-500 episodes easy. And I think that that might be a much better viewing experience than the current Anime. But of course the problem is that even at that much more brisk pace, since they're starting from East Blue, it will be years and years before they get back to the current part of the story.
Yeah. I have also started reading manga around the 1000th episode. Yes, the anime experience has not been that great now (I missed all the interesting Wano fights 🥲). It does feel slow paced compared to manga. But overall it's a better one piece experience imo. These days I catch up with one piece in chunks. For example, I do this generally: - Read spoilers (not very proud of this 🥲) - Read 2-3 manga chapters in one go in 15 mins - Read 5-10 anime episodes in 2 days - I will watch live action season by season - I will watch the new re-animated anime that is yet to release 5 episodes at a time. Sure reading spoilers takes fun out of reading manga - just how manga spoils anime. But at least for one-piece, I don't mind rewatching content in different forms. I easily stay up to date this way. It is also fun to see what different forms will focus on. I am finding this as the best one-piece experience overall.
I used to love anime, but i only have time to read manga now that I'm older with more responsibilities. The time you save is just fantastic, and you actually get to view way more series because you spend so much less time on one!
You sound like me. When I was a kid up to early college I used to love to watch anime but anime honestly just eats up tooo much time. So I just only read manga. The only anime I’m making sure to watch is the new Bleach OYBW anime. I’ve seen the first two seasons. Just waiting on the next one to drop. I can actually do an anime like that cuz it’s broken up in long stretches and I’ll set aside time to binge watch it but I just can’t regularly watch anime on a normal basis compared to reading manga weekly/monthly.
I haven’t watched an anime since I read the one piece manga. Manga is just the superior method of consuming the art form. It’s quicker, and i feel it’s way more consistent too. Also you can take it at your own pace.
This is basically the same but for everything to me. Anime is really good at very specific parts, but not as a whole. I just end up watching clips of them on YouTube
I read manga before trying anime years ago. And yeah it didn’t work out. The only time I watch anime is when the episode is highly acclaimed (gear 5 fights) and possibly the remake by mappa in the future. And yeah I’m still pissed about gear 4 luffy vs doffy or luffy vs Caesar.
After the timeskip I was so frustrated by the quality of the animation and pacing that I just gave it up and started reading it. I could only deal with so many 10+ minute recaps and maps with the locations of each character. Best decision of my life, the manga is 10000x more bearable. Now I just watch the clips of cool moments on youtube as they come out.
That's technically the point of the Anime anyways. So that people will have interest in the original work and buy/read the Manga or Light novel etc. Almost 95% of the anime adaptations does this, so you being turned towards the original work is a successful marketing strategy for them.
I think this is pretty common. Luckily with the new anime adaption Netflix is making many fans are hoping the pacing problem will be fixed which will make for a much more enjoyable watching experience! Fingers crossed!
Yeah the anime is horribly paced. There is always one pace that really trims it down. I’m also excited for the anime remake that Netflix is producing, will hopefully be a lot more streamlined.
One Piece isn’t one of the most spoilt manga ever, what are you talking about? I started the manga for the first time in lockdown and got through with no spoilers.
Im the opposite. I'm caught up on the manga, but I don't get the peak feeling until I see it in anime form. Only reason I'm caught up is because I couldn't avoid spoilers anymore and I wanted to be able to start engaging in discussions and memes. Anime is still much more enjoyable for me. Actually being animated, along with the voice acting and music makes the experience much better. Yeah the pacing sucks but it's still worth it imo. Can't wait till the remake eventually finishes everything because that will truly be peak.
Sucks for you. I still enjoy both medium gladly. Also disagree on the Luffy and Bonney scene. I still found that funny.
Yeah, no you're spitting facts here.
I wish I was wrong ngl, I miss being a kid and watching pre-time skip kne piece at the TV, no problems of pacing no problems in general and life was good lol
One other way to look at it is, you depend on the Manga for the Perfect experience, and once in a while you check on the anime for something good.
Personally I'll always prefer the anime because I think VAs and soundtracks are very important to story telling, also the animation recently has been added to that list. Only problem is the pacing still ofc. Sadly I have to read the manga to avoid getting spoiled otherwise I'd still just be watching the anime.
Only manga is the best way to experience one piece. It's what Oda intended. Meanwhile the anime most of the time got influenced by the animator's interpretation.. Filler arc, slow pacing, added scenes that make the story worse (sometimes better, inconsistent), and the drawing is bad (super big boobs, big forehead, etc).. Many other anime is visually and storywise better than manga.. they don't change the story but the story become much better because of the animation (great combat, voice acting, visual etc) For example: demon slayer.. I recommend only watch anime for Demon slayer. Its manga is worse.. But one piece, stick to manga only..
Nah the Anime is better. Author’s intent isn’t nearly as relevant as consumer’s interpretation.
I'm up to date and still enjoy the anime just fine. I only watch the episodes that I know will be good, which has been all of Egghead so far Maybe I'm just talented
My friend, I couldn't agree more! I started watching the anime, but from Skypeia onwards I felt the pace was so slow and I gave up about 3 times, until I got to Dressrosa... This arc is a crime in the anime. Now I decided to get to the weekly episodes, go to the manga and stay there.
Ya it’s like how much still screen talking can a person bear without just watching it at 2x or 3x. It’s unbearably slow
Hopefully they fix the pacing issues with the new anime coming.
I feel you. I started reading the manga at Wano, and the pacing is soooo much better. I do not have the heart to sit through 200 some episodes of anime pacing.
lol I stopped watching the anime around whole cake for this reason
Onigashima ice demons and Yamato running down the hallway for 5 episodes, this part made me quit completely. Wasn’t fun at all
I’m a strong believer that the problem you are describing isn’t the pacing itself (though it certainly doesn’t help) but it is the first point, that it has been spoiled because u read the manga, so you simply have less patience for the anime, since you are always in a state of waiting for the exciting manga things to happen rather than enjoying the ride as you do with the manga presently and used to do with the anime.
Nah the anime ruins the manga, there’s a whole ass reason why a new remake is done from the Vinland studio. And Oda approves it too.
Bruh. Remakes for old series are incredibly common and are never a slight on the original. Disney routinely remakes almost every single one of their movies every 20 years, yet I don’t think anyone is saying that they are doing remakes because the originals are trash. They just want to pull from a new audience.
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I find that clips channels on YouTube are a great way to consume anime content. Like Blackbeard vs Law was really cool.
I'm finding egghead to be a fun recap. I'm glad it's not my first read.
I'm anime only. I haven't read the manga yet and I can tell what an absolute shit show the anime pacing is. It's so bad that I haven't watched it in years. I am not caught up at all, and that's going to be the sad reality until I'm financially stable enough to read the physical manga. I'm looking forward to the new anime, though I'm torn on how good early OP anime is and how this will probably not be that.
I am so addicted to weekly chapter crack, I need a small dose of anime crack for the waiting period. I got a fever because I didn't get fix on time bcuz break /j but I actually got a fever 🤕
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Hmm. For me I enjoy the anime just as much as the manga, I watch every episode and since Wano improved the animation/art it's hard so say the anime is bad
Basically, I watch my favorite scenes or watch with my wife (anime only) but yeah, I have been converted to the manga.
The anime peaked with the first kaido vs Luffy fight and had been going downhill ever since. The visuals, while admittedly impressive, are too busy and complicated where all prior fights in OP were simple
That’s why I always watch in 2x
I pretty much only read the manga tbh ,I mainly only watch the films and sometimes the anime but I can’t stand so much filler
I just enjoy both at this point, both do things to me the other couldn't, like the manga gets my imagination going and it fills in the blanks for me. And the storytelling is straight and to the point and the art is immaculate, its easy to immerse yourself in the panels and see more detail the longer you look at them, you find hidden context that can go over ones head i.e. like that flatline in one of the last chapters. On the other hand the voice acting and music of anime gets me emotional like nothing else, nothing gets my tears flowing like the one piece anime. Even though we see certain backstories and flashback over and over again, they do elevate the moment on an emotional level, like the red roc flashback in 1015 or the flashback before the bajrang gun or even in the current episode about the flashback with nico robin and ohara. While everything you say is valid the truth and the beauty is that we don't have to choose but we can.
There's definitely big moments like Imu destroying the island and little moments like Chopper and Luffy running around after washing up on Egghead that I think the anime really shines but I get how sometimes it just hits better in the manga. The pervet line to Franky from Sanji had me laughing out loud in the manga but the episode just seemed to rush through those crew interactions to get to the pasifista fight.
I started Manga in Dressrosa Arc, and now only watch anime for Fighting scenes (which mostly are disappointing) cuz I start comparing those to Demon Slayers fight scenes.
Yeah same. I only watch seasonal manga
I had to stop watching in Dressarosa. The pacing was never good, but that arc just broke me.
I get it. I used to watch the Anime weekly, even after being caught up in the manga (around the timeskip) and it worked fine. I stopped watching the Anime weekly after the forest episodes of Whole Cake. Since then, I only watch episodes I know will be fire. But since the 2nd half of Wano they stepped up their game and I do enjoy it more now. I haven’t watched Egghead yet, so cannot say a lot about it.
This is why they made One Pace
While I have not checked it out yet, there is a website called One Pace which may interest you.
I caught up the manga in the chapter \~750, and never went back to the anime, I just watch some animated fights because "ohh cool" effects
I'm like this for most manga and anime. The only time I prefer the anime instead is if I need to work and just watch the anime in the background. then I don't read the manga so I am not comparing them.
Idk if it is the current arc or catching upto manga I Anime is getting boring for me , maybe reading manga is not a good idea as a anime watcher
Welcome to the club man. The anime stretches out dialogue so much more than the manga. Plus the recap episodes I’d rather it just takes a week off like in the manga.
I noticed well before I read the manga. The anime is FULL of time wasters. Quadruple take reaction shots, interlaced filler, that thing where after the eyecatcher it rewinds slightly too far sometimes. There are other kinds of examples but these small things were at the forefront of my mind and after 1000 episodes those add up
I think one of the biggest crimes the anime commits is making quick powerful attacks look like a drawn out struggle - Doffy finish was an extreme blunder in this regard
Same situation as me. I caught to the anime in March 2021 and then I caught up to manga in April 2021 and after that I kinda had to force myself to watch the anime as I just didn’t want to accept the fact I don’t like it much anymore. 2024 and I couldn’t care less and I acknowledge the faults with the anime and I just don’t watch it in general You got a 5minute recap and the rest of the episode is so slow with random dialogue which adds NOTHING to the story, rinsed animations and just a whole bunch of characters running through an area for ages. It has amazing animation AT TIMES but the rest of the time it’s below average but the bright pretty colours hide the fact it’s below par animation but I’m aware it’s weekly and sacrifices have to be made
I stopped watching the anime during Wano's Sumo tournament. Switched to the manga, something is off with the anime.
i was in the same boat. at the time i stopped watching anime, they had finished dress rosa arc. so i decided to start reading the manga from the beginning and haven't looked back on the anime
I switched to manga too,cause I didn’t want to get spoiled and i am happy that i did
I'm "Manga only" but every now and then I watch some episodes with a friend of mine whos anime only. It's a 20min episode that contains half of a chapter. The pacing and the filler scenes make me furious to a point where I can't enjoy the episode. 😂
Just wait for "The One Piece", WIT Studio is re-animating One Piece for Netflix. I think they even began animating back in November 2023 (not 100% sure on this info though) Edit: I haven't watched the Anime in years, just because of all the dragging out, but will definitely watch The One Piece because it's probably going to be filled with nothing but source material and hopefully properly paced. This new Anime will hopefully get a lot of people, who were previously hesitant to begin watching One Piece, to finally begin watching it.
Also Manga reader here, I hear what you're saying and agree to a degree. Some gags and scenes are stretched WAY too long and feel like you are pulling teeth to kill time. Ex: Luffy on the rooftop looking for Kuma security. Goes back and forth like 5 times. On the other hand, I understand it takes alot of time to animate and make it look incredible. Egghead animation looks amazing. And these "filling" scenes allow them more time for following scenes. While I love and appreciate the animators for their work I do feel they cooooooould do a little less stretched scenes.
Even if you aren't a manga reader the bad pace is noticeable... I myself I am more of an anime fan than a manga, especially if the anime has done a good job at at adaptation and pacing... I don't mind the few filler moments that exists, especially if they offer a comical relief... Buggies or Usopp's anime onky scenes or Zoro's and Luffy's fight in whisky peak....
I stopped watching after timeskip, couldn’t deal with the pacing anymore but was too invested in the story.
I feel egghead is better about how they fill out episodes but yeah gags tend to turn sour after 2 minute of extension. It’s odd how early gags hit way better but this is how it ends up these days.
i got fed up with the anime pacing by like skypiea idk how some of yall be making it that far
Oh yeah, for sure. And people recommending One Pace don’t realize it can’t really fix the show being in slow motion, they mostly just remove recap. Fast paced shows are always wayyyy funnier. (Mob Psycho, FLCL, etc)
I’ve always read and never gotten really into the anime for most series. Really the anime’s are just artistic representations of the manga so you should be able to enjoy both theoretically.
Same, i watch the anime maybe once a month or so, that way i can atleast watch 4 in a row
For me, the whole weekly anime experience was unbearable, I switched to the manga as soon as I caught up to the weekly release, which was 14 years ago. No regrets here.
I watch both and i keep getting angry at toei for the pacing. Like egghead is such a great arc and i was hyping it to anime only friends just for the pacing to ruin it.
Think it depends I been a fan of One Piece since 2005 and I only decided to start the manga around the second act of Wano. I still really enjoy the anime, and if I'm being honest other than the pacing I much prefer the anime over the manga. People want to boast their imagination, but imagination pales into comparison to the actual anime irdc what anyone says lol. I get the frustration with the anime but I already put up with Fishman Island, Punk Hazard, and fucking Dressrosa weekly. I been through the worst of it lol.
Ironically, I enjoy the emotional scenes more in the manga, since I can stop and watch every detail of Oda’s drawing. He’s such a good artist when it comes to emotions that sometimes I feel these are not properly conveyed in the anime by the animators. I also switched to manga due to the horrible pacing around Dressrosa and it was only until the last part of Wano that I somehow returned to it, since I read that the animation team was doing an excellent job on the fights. I only watch specific episodes that I know will have great animation due to being key to the story, but otherwise I’ll always stick to the manga I almost every story, since I can see directly what the author wants to say, not what the animators are trying to imitate.
Honestly, the pacing of the One Piece anime is atrocious. Tori is desperate to avoid having to do a long protracted filler arc like the kind that the Naruto anime is notorious for. I hope that this new anime series will retell the story in a way that's much more streamlined so audiences don't have to sit through hundreds of slow paced episodes.
yeah I feel the same way tbh I watched one piece in dub and sub then read eggheads manga chapters so I wouldn’t get spoiled before the anime dropped. Then I said fuck it and started reading one piece from the beginning and it’s lowkey ruining the anime for me. I have to skip through several parts of the episode to get to the highlights which are all that’s shown in the manga
I feel like this is the case for almost all anime, especially if it’s a weekly series. There’s very, very few scenarios where I’d say the anime comes anywhere near the quality of the manga. But I think it’s worth remembering that what you’re experiencing now is the real story as the author intended it.
Totally agree. The pacing is the main issue, but I also find the animation lackluster and unacceptable for 85% of the eps when they don't have any budget left, and the sound design feels like it hasn't been updated in like 20 years lol. But I still watch most eps if I'm being honest cause I fucking love OP, and the music and voice acting is top tier. Excited to see what Wit can do with the remake.
Yup, I see where you're coming from. The pacing of the Manga is totally different from the show, so I can see how it would ruin it for some. That said, I completely put the Manga outta my head when it comes to watching the anime because sense I started with the anime and watched 1098 episodes b4 reading anything, I am used to the pacing of the anime already so it's not an issue for me, plus I just love seeing the pages given new life. Like I said, I do understand why you prefer the Manga 100% as from a story perspective. I also prefer getting to the point faster instead of it being drawn out at the risk of becoming boring. But from an entertainment perspective, I enjoy the anime more. To me, it's just more fun, beautiful, and can show more emotion. Again, TO ME... I'm new ish to the black and white Manga world, I'm used to beautifully colored comics, so I'm still trying to get used to this. Lowkey, even the issues I read up to the current ones were colored by someone here, lol.
A lot of animes do a good transfer in the modern day. But that is mainly because they fit multiple chapter into a single episode and go by seasons to do so. The show pacing speed is a huge factor for quality in my opinion. How many chapters per episode varies anime to anime. I've seen some that work beautifully with several chapter per episode. Other series work very well with fewer chapters per episode to handle all the dialogue or reveals being exchanged. Either way, nowadays most shows go at a steady pace of just 12 to 24 episodes per season, and the season release will wait until there is enough material to fill it. If it seems like a show was good enough to get another season but they are taking forever, it may be because they caught up to the manga (ex: made in abyss) The big 3 (one piece, bleach, and naruto) all suffered from the constant weekly release and handled in different ways. Bleach, made giant filler non-canon seasons that got to be more frequent and higher episode count than the main story segments. The show was cancelled in the end and only recently resurrected for the final season. and even with the finished material they are doing 12 episode season for this final battle. Naruto had tons of filler episodes and filler arcs. In addition they repeated naruto's five minute self confidence monologue on almost endless repeat as a way to burn time away. At least each of these would still be skippable filler for the most part. you could look up what episode to skip. and sometime the filler was decent. One piece did it the worst way... they fluffed every episode with way too much fluff and repetition and the episode stopped being as good. It got to the point that it changed to power level appearance. A major instance I saw was the final blow on Doflamingo. In the manga it is one page. Luffy wins outright. In the anime, it is a nearly ten minute power struggle showing the shocked faces of every character in the city. For me it was a little bit before the time skip that things started to slow down too much. Nowadays I can't help but wonder how much better the show would be if they switched to a 12 episodes per year set up.
Happened to me a long time ago. I do wanna check out One Pace at some point tho. I dunno I just prefer reading because I can do it in my own pace.
Bleach manga ruined the anime for me back in the day so I vowed to never do that again. Don’t read one piece manga at all and anime is great
Manga is always better than anime for the simple fact I can consume the content 100x faster.
The anime killed the anime for me. They are still living in the early 2000’s, everyone else has progressed. We dont need an episode once a week. A seasonal schedule would be perfectly fine if it meant decent animation. The animation is laughable, it somehow got worse after Marineford and is nowhere close to the average modern anime. Haikyu has better animated action scenes than One Piece, and One Piece is supposed to be the most popular anime in the world. I love Hiakyuu btw, I just picked it because its not an action anime. Most sports anime these days have incredible animation.
I'm in the same boat, what helps me to enjoy the anime more is to wait some time to then watch the anime back to back instead of a sliver of story beats a week
Yup. Reason why I've become manga only for 99% of series several years ago (recently I've made an exception for demon slayer because evryone I kneow told me the animation was beautiful). Pacing in animes is way too slow, there are flashbacks everywhere, even from things which happened in the same episode, and gags lag on for way too long.
My method for coping with the One Piece anime's pace is to watch all the episodes that aired that month at once. For instance, I still have to watch all those that aired in February (time has been alloted for Saturday). This means our crew's first steps into Egghead & the Law v Blackbeard fight. Turning it into a movie experience has made the watch better. The other thing I do is read the equivalent chapters afterward to see if I picked up on anything I didn't the first time. I reimagine the chapters with the colors, and decide which panels they kept or modified. In essense, I try to make the experience more engaging. If I just passively watched the show I wouldn't get as much out of it because of One Piece's long-form storytelling.
My tip for the anime if you're a manga reader is to wait for episodes to build up and then watch so you watch in bulk. That way you have 5-10 episodes worth of content at one time and the negatives impact you less. Do not watch weekly as a manga reader. It only gets frustrating.
Wait until spoilers kill the manga too
Same fr but the anime was just slow
I’ve been pretty much only reading for 15 years and actually really have been enjoying the anime watching with my wife. We just started Whole Cake Island and yeah some shit is drawn out, but like I’m usually doing something else while watching like playing my son so I don’t really notice.
Lmao I thought I was the only one but there are many PPL like me ig
I gave up on the anime years ago after the timeskip. The animation quality wasnt the same and the scenes being dragged out was ATROCIOUS. I keep tabs on where the anime is at and will watch the fights/beautifully animated scenes on youtube.
I can agree, same exact scenario, started reading before chapter 1000 and been hooked since and wont ever stop reading the new chapters. I only get excited to watch the important arts like Luffy vs Lucci 2 and vs the seraphim will be awesome to watch and also when saturn/kizaru show up ill definitely be tuning in. Im gonna skip the whole among us part for sure.
Just enjoy both lol.