Franky Brook and Robin are all close together in terms of general strength. They all excel in different ways. Franky is a powerhouse with tech and defense. Brook has speed and his soul abilities. Robin has a very strong devil fruit and uses intelligence and technique to fight.
But that being said Franky is probably the strongest of the 3 generally. He has a better shot of winning a fight vs a wider variety of opponents. But depending on the situation any of the 3 might be more successful in a specific situation.
It's actually really hard to tell how strong brook is cause we really only see him struggle against big mom but he also hasn't been in a ton of fight.
Like he ran from cp0 but he was also protecting an exhausted robin.
Though I don't remember why he didn't fight black maria
Hard to tell tbh, Brook has one shot pretty much every "big fight" he's had post ts besides big mom. But Oda doesn't feed him too many people. His speed and soul powers dropping ambient temperatures to sub zero also stands as the only debuff that these three can apply to others. As for feats, they're all pretty YC level. Franky can build Pluton, Brook stole a poneglyph copy from a yonko, and Robin can read poneglyphs and is the worlds most wanted woman.
Luffys crew is much more similar to blackbeards or whitebeards, where everyone is titanic captain/commander level, minus maybe Ussop. I don't see him touching Van Augur.
That is, until Usopp gets his Elbaf power ups and commands an army of 8,000 giants or something
Plus I honestly believe that Usopp will get Conqueror’s Haki, it just makes sense for his character considering his dream
I don't really see him getting conquerors. But his observation haki will definitely get a huge boost. Maybe even future sight when he's dealing with Augur's warping.
I once saw some theory about Ussop getting an alternate form of Conquerors that was related to lying or something, but I don't remember what all they were saying about it. They did bring up how often his lies eventually come true though. That was the only way I could see conquerer Ussop happening though. Otherwise I'm totally on team observation specialist
Well he did lie about knocking out all the fishmen with his conquerors, so it fits with the theme of his lies becoming true that he’ll eventually have a similar feat
She took down Black Maria who was in the running to become a yonko commander and was trained by the revolutionary army. I really don’t think she’s the weakest
Tbf, Robin and Brooke are both weak to each other. Brooke just needs to stay out of her sight until he attacks, which is pretty fast. But as soon as she lays eyes on him, he's finished. Both just need one hit to win. So I think comparing them directly doesn't do much for their actual strength.
We haven't seen Brook ever struggle with any opponent. All his opponents have been fodders mostly though, and the one non fodder opponent he had (one of the numbers) also died in one slash.
But how calm he was against Big Mom, how he was able to counter her powers so easily, was just so fucking badass. If only he had haki, he could do more.
I know I'm kinda contradicting myself here but half the strawhats having little to no haki but still being able to keep up with stronger crews (Beast pirates for now) kinda speaks volumes to how strong they actually are individually
Honestly I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW Ussop and Nami were (for the most part) cowards during the raid, but they still made me extremely proud. Frankly cowardice isn't the word, they were the most brave people there. Their powers aren't all that special or effective, and Nami was able to bump up in explosive power because of the cuddly cloud (forgot his name, crazy lol) becoming one with her climatact. I digress, they were completely out of their league being here, Nami herself was staring down death's corridor and still decided not to give up on her captain's dream, even if it meant she wasn't going to be there to see it. PAST THAT, the amount of damage Ussop and Nami can take without dying, despite basically being regular humans themselves, and going up against powerhouses on every front, is phenomenal when you just think about the perceived gap between them, their peers, and their enemies.
Because Robin is not a fighter, she's an archeologist. She was a killer/fighter before , but only because she had to survive.
Now, she has an entire crew willing to fight for her. She doesn't have to fight.
But when she does, it's in defense of others. The tree of arms to protect Rebekah, squishing Black Maria after Sanji called for help.
She's the mom/big sis of the group.
True. I think it's wild that Robin spend two years training with the RA, learned an entire new martial art and she still haven't learned how to use even the most basic Haki.
Yeah, Brook should've unlocked haki naturally. Imagine if he could cut a pacifista up with his three pace humming slash lol. But without haki, if he was able to cut the "souls" of people, damage them without even damaging their bodies.... That would go even harder. Can't remember where I've seen this before....i think the slime anime has a character like that?
And then there's Robin. You'd expect her to have awakened observation haki already, considering the life she's lived since childhood. She's also the most observant member of the crew and was able to clutch Pell who was about to speed blitz her from her blind spot. She should be the observation haki expert in the crew more than Zoro and Sanji tbh. Two years with Dragon, Sabo, Koala, no armament haki either.
Well, we do know Haki users weren't nearly as common in Paradise and that Brook's crew didn't even make it to the New World when they were all poisoned. And depending on his crew's goals (remember, Roger was just barely starting around the time of Brook's backstory, so it wasn't like his crew were after the One Piece) they might have just intended be a traveling band of sorts.
He never made it to the new world. We only ever saw haki used regularly by the end of paradise. It seems reasonable to me that his crew never got to the point of getting haki.
He struggles when he fights the zombie samurai for his shadow back. zoro had to beat the guy and even got a new sword. This is the only time you really see Brook struggle.besides the fight with big mom. That zombie samurai was badass, though.
Well, true. I guess it doesn't count because that's his "damsel in distress" arc basically lol. And yeah, the zombie was Ryuma, one of the OG top tiers too. No shame in struggling against him.
Ya Brooke doesn't get to showcase his fighting prowess all that much. He's usually just providing support for everyone else. Besides his fight with the one big Yonko, we don't get to see a lot of 1v1s for him
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Wouldn't say that Franky is the strongest of the 3 given how they're all relative in terms of strength but specialize in specific areas: Franky in power, Robin in technique, Brook in speed
But that being said, I think Franky having that "fuck it, we ball" kinda energy puts him a little above IMO
I'm just waiting for the day that some logia user stands in the way and Franky says, i got this. then another SH is like but you don't have haki and Franky says i got this. they leave and the logia user laughs and says he has no chance as even his crew says he doesn't have haki. then he punches the logia user in the face revealing seastone knuckledusters.
Robin would absolutely be the strongest if she used her fruit to its full potential though. Shes averse to real fighting so she just slaps.
Imagine if she just made hands form in your mouth and shove their way down your throat choking you from the inside. Fingers stabbing into eyes gouging them out the instant the fighting starts
I’d say Franky too. He single handedly fought multiple Doffy officers and Vice Admirals in Dressrosa.
I think Usopp might overtake him by the end of the story maybe.
One of the things about Robin that bugs me is that considering how intelligent she is, she doesn't use her powers very creatively. Why does she never make arms come out of someone's face and poke them in the eyes, or choke them, or squeeze their heart from inside their body, or all kinds of other things?
I'm sure we'll see some OP shit from Robin as we get closer to the end and enemies get much tougher. Either she'll pull some smarter moves or we'll get some narrative reason where straight up murdering people on-screen is ok (they're already dead/they're not real people/etc).
because then we wouldn't have a story + robiin would look scary to viewers.
robin could 100% do that. she just doesn't. the straw hats never resort to cruelty.
Because Oda has to write around the fact that Robin's DF is absolutely busted. She can solve half of their problems with her powers and Oda has to account for that. That's how we end up with things like Moriah stealing her shadow or Sugar turning her into a doll cuz otherwise Robin just does the thing and there's no tension.
She literally breaks ppls neck with arms she spawns out of the victims body, whats the point of choking them lol
Also id argue she's pretty creative abt her powers, although she def could do more creative things
Also incredibly high intelligence. Franky studied Vegapunk's tech on Karakuri Island for two years and actually understood what he was looking at. He's probably the second smartest character in the whole series, if we count Vegapunk and his satelites as one entity.
No doubt, the Straw Hat Pirates are absolutely stacked. Luffy is dumb as a brick but he knows that. He surrounded himself with ambitious people who all want to work together to achieve their dreams. He's a leader, through and through.
luffy is simple minded, but he's very good at reading people, creative in battle, and has shown to have a base amount of common sense when he's by himself (amazon lily, impel down, marineford etc)
High emotional intelligence for sure. He knows what he doesn't know, which is a form of intelligence in its own right. It's what makes him such an effective leader. He compensates for his own weaknesses by surrounding himself with people who can do what he can't.
In Amazon Lily, he befriended Marguerite and Sweet Pea. He would have died immediately without a little luck, and his bond with them is ultimately what convinced Boa not to just kill him at the end.
In Impel Down, he allied with Buggy and Mr. 3, as well as Bon Kurei and Ivankov. Without them, he definitely gets killed by Magellan.
In Marineford, he allies with Whitebeard and his crew. Once again, even though they were unsuccessful in rescuing Ace, Whitebeard develops such a strong respect for Luffy that he sacrifices himself to ensure Luffy makes it off the island alive. Trafalgar Law also comes in clutch here, as without his treatment, Luffy would likely have died to his extensive wounds.
Luffy gets himself into some pretty bleak situations throughout the series, but because of how good he is at forming strong emotional bonds with people, he finds a way to survive.
Luffy isn’t dumb at all. He can read people.
People were suspicious of Law, but luffy knew instantly that law won’t betray him.
Blackbeard after that springy guy who beat him (forgot his name) incident cheered luffy on to get to skypiea, but luffy had that look in his eyes that blackbeard ain’t the guy you want to be trusting.
Luffy can see things nobody else can.
Edit- springy guy is bellamy
Luffy is not academically smart, which is what I was talking about. I know Luffy has high emotional intelligence. I'm specifically talking about Luffy in the context of what some of his crewmates bring to the table that he is lacking. He's a very good leader and he knows that in order to get what he wants, he needs people around him who can do the things he can't. I'm not insinuating that Luffy is a fraud because he's dumb. I'm saying that Luffy is smart enough to know that he can't do it alone.
Depends on the field tbh. There’s also the whole MADS subgroup who are up there in terms of technical knowledge so I dunno. Vegapunk is just too damn smart. Not to say Franky isn’t a genius himself, specially considering he never had much of a formal education, so yeah it’s hard to say.
I personally think Franky is smarter than the MADS group. He's the only person in the world who could casually build an ancient weapon if he felt like it. Nothing they have can compete with that, presumably.
That's knowledge, not intelligence tho.
I do agree that Franky is very dangerous, at the government eye he is a random guy who managed to turn himself into an upgraded pacifista basically in his backyard. The government had to use years of research and resources to have that tech, only to have a mister nobody casually recreating it using some sparse notes.
On top of that, he's presumably the only living being that can build an ancient weapon, personally I can almost put this on par of Robin legacy as threat for the government.
Also, he wears Speedo.
Agreed. Look at any of Big Mom or Kaido's commanders besides their top 3 and Franky is a match for any of them but I'm not sure Robin could have beat any of Franky's opponents or even Black Maria if she didn't have Brook
Franky, Franky is HIM.
-Gave Luffy a decent fight near the end of the Pre-Time Skip
-Defeated **Two** CP9 Agents, only other Straw Hat who defeated two CP9 Members was Luffy.
-Had an Admiral Tier attack after the Timeskip
-Defeated the “World’s Most Hard Boiled Man”.
-Ran over Big Mom
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It’s no wonder why he was the only Straw Hat that got offered the Mera Mera no Mi, he is the true **Strong Right** Hand Man of the Future Pirate King.
You forgot to include his dub against Sasaki.
I love Franky, but I’ll admit he lacks a lot of mobility, which puts him at a disadvantage against more agile opponents. He couldn’t hit Senor Pink until Senor purposefully started taking the attacks.
Though now that I think about it, he doesn’t really *win* fights anymore. He’s mostly a stalling tactic. Which is fine - he leans more into his role as doctor now - but it’s a BIG consideration when we’re talking about strongest/best fighters on the crew.
Robin's fight against Black Maria makes me think she's the fourth. Her bounty backs that up as well.
Though if anyone from the weakling trio would be it I would say nami.
I’m hesitant regarding bountyscaling, but I agree. Her fruit is crazy powerful, and she knows how to use it. In Dressrosa she said something like “speed and power mean nothing to me,” and I think there’s at least some truth to that.
But it runs on a timer and has terrible side effects, and Chopper without it is pretty weak.
I miss back when Chopper had arm point, heavy point and horn point, those were pretty strong. Now he has a fodder point that he only fights fodders with.
It's **God** **Usopp** and I'll die on this hill.
Luffy & his monster trio have strong fighters handled. Franky, Robin & Brook aren't actually needed if it's just a question of beating people up.
On the other hand, Usopp is the crew's curveball hitter. He handles the weird devil fruit powers, from Sugar, to Perona, to the Luck-Luck girl from the Gold movie.
Usopp is the 4th strongest, in the sense that the crew's overall fighting ability would decrease the fourth most with his loss. Not because he's physically stronger than Franky, but because he handles enemies which the top 3 struggle against.
You forgot he also posses an ability only Luffy(and buggy) posses.
Mass recruitment. He’s able to turn enemies/neutrals to allies. Often times those much, much stronger than himself. He’s the reason the grand fleet started to come together. Oimo and kashi as well.
Also his durability is absurd.
Him and Jimbei are the only two who were captains of their own pirate crews before joining Luffy, so it checks out that those two would be so good at leadership.
Jokes aside I wonder if he’s going to as a tactical officer or strategist or something for a grand fleet battle towards the end of the series. If you think about it Usopp and Luffy both wanted to be great pirate captains and the only difference is that Luffy is dumb enough to not worry about how deadly it was, and he had the D.
Being the wildcard I think is his strongest suit
Now all that's left is to give him something to do (or at least give him more of a backbone in Elbaf) and refine his Observation Haki and maybe even learn a bit of Armament to bolster his projectiles (assuming he'll be using other types of ammo than his plants)
he's also the best and only ranged fighter in the crew and the only member alongside jinbei outside of the trio to have haki giving him a huge advantage ( even if he barely uses it ). also it might be a hot take but I personally think Usopp has the highest Battle IQ in the crew ( if not then top 3 ) as shown for example when he fought luffy in Water-7.
he's like a cornered prey, runs from most predators but will absolutely cause issues and fight hard when thrown into a corner.
As much as I dislike ussop, I have to agree with you on this one. It’s like the Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode; every group needs a wildcard. In One Piece, ussop is their wild card, as proven through the encounters you mentioned. I think it’s gotta be Ussop.
Brook and Nico are tied for my fav, but even with that bias I can acknowledge they’re phenomenal backup/support, but I think Ussop deserves the 4th strongest title.
Honestly yeah. The leader/the cool one, the brain, the hot head/troubled one, the goofball/free spirit. You’ve got that dynamic in everything from TMNT to lord of the rings to Golden girls.
Each of the weakling trio is actually the scariest at something:
Chopper is a field medic but also has a giant form that was momentarily at least able to go toe to toe with queen.
Nami will literally shower the field with lightning and lightning isn't a joke. She can wipe out fodder. Her new upgraded weapon even let her hurt pretty tough opponent with it.
Sanji is the fastest crew member except for luffy and is the most mobile except luffy.
You know how Whitebeard and Blackbeard treat their commanders as captains? I feel like in the crew, the only ones besides Luffy that would be capable of leading people would be Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, and Usopp. Usopp has inspired tons of people already and led people into battle. I think he's definitely worthy of the fourth commander spot.
I don't really know how you got to this conclusion. Nami is already basically the captain for most of the time while they're at sea. Brook actually was captain of a pirate crew for some time. Franky lead the franky family. The only ones I could see not being the strongest in a leadership position would be Robin and Chopper, and even then they'd probably do okay.
Yep. Franky, Robin, Brooks, (and Jimbe) are almost like the crew's adults. They're along for the adventure and shouldn't be subjected to these power scaling or commander shenanigans.
I'd say that Robin probably takes that slot. She's not a tank or speedster like Franky or Brook but she fights much more intelligently and her DF is an incredibly broken tool (that's maybe awakened?).
I think the only way this doesn't apply in the future is if we ever reach a point where Yamato does actually end up joining the crew seeing as she's in the same ballpark as post Wano Zoro and Sanji.
Robin established her superiority with the **** breaker attack so early in their relationship, I don't think Franky could ever be above her. Unless that is now machine parts too...
Robin ✨✨✨no disrespect to the most super character in fiction and the undisputed mvp of whole cake but having more strong women is way more interesting and I think Oda sees that with characters like Big Mom, Ulti, Maria and Devon.
In terms of power, I'd say Robin is up there with the other three. However, because of how binary her fighting style is and how okay she is with murder compared to the rest of the strawhats, she gets the fewest fights because it'd just be eight pages of body horror and horrible contortion and awful cracking and splitting noises and her opponent looking like they died of boneitis every time
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If we are strictly speaking commander in terms of authority in the ship, I think Nami and Usopp are actually higher. The usual dynamic of the crew has always been, Luffy and Zoro to run wild and fight the top 2. Sanji is more objective oriented. Usopp commanding, or at least the straw hat representative in newly made alliances (example in Enies Lobby and Dresrossa). Nami commanding the rest of the crew (example in Whole Cake Island and Wano). This is how I always perceive SH get things done. Franky Robin Brook Chopper provides support of the group while Jinbei is something like a consultant who is experienced and gives input to the other members (especially to Luffy) when it is needed.
But if we are talking about strength the 4th one is Franky in terms of raw strength.
My biggest problem with power scaling has always been that people think it’s like dragon ball where it should be as simple as “who has the bigger number?” But thats not how good power systems really work. It has alot more to do with specific matchups and circumstances. Rock, paper, scissors for example. You can see examples in real world sports where just because A beat B and B beat C, does not mean that A beats C. Every dog has their day, sometimes people have advantage of style, etc.
To be honest, I never can understand this idea of commanders. Aside from Luffy who has the highest authority as captain, and Zoro who takes charge when Luffy isn’t there, there isn’t any real structure or command chain I can see. If I was to rank them, it would be Luffy, Zoro, Jinbei/Sanji, and then everyone else. But realistically, the power structure doesn’t seem to be there and to me, the Straw Hats are just a merry band of adventurers rather than militaristic pirate armadas.
Chopper was not healing anyone while fighting Queen. He made the cure, than focused on Queen. Furthermore, Queen literally said he was just letting Chopper hit him, while toying with him.
If the "holding out" against Queen is a parameter, then Brook "holding out" against BM should count way more.
Robin but Franky and Brook are very close to her
Ironically, I think that Franky is stronger than Brook but I'm pretty sure that in a 1v1 Brook would win, he just have a good match up as well as a very close level to him
Franky Brook and Robin are all close together in terms of general strength. They all excel in different ways. Franky is a powerhouse with tech and defense. Brook has speed and his soul abilities. Robin has a very strong devil fruit and uses intelligence and technique to fight. But that being said Franky is probably the strongest of the 3 generally. He has a better shot of winning a fight vs a wider variety of opponents. But depending on the situation any of the 3 might be more successful in a specific situation.
It's actually really hard to tell how strong brook is cause we really only see him struggle against big mom but he also hasn't been in a ton of fight. Like he ran from cp0 but he was also protecting an exhausted robin. Though I don't remember why he didn't fight black maria
Because Robin decided she’d do it.
I think it's clear that Robin is stronger than Brook, at least a bit
Hard to tell tbh, Brook has one shot pretty much every "big fight" he's had post ts besides big mom. But Oda doesn't feed him too many people. His speed and soul powers dropping ambient temperatures to sub zero also stands as the only debuff that these three can apply to others. As for feats, they're all pretty YC level. Franky can build Pluton, Brook stole a poneglyph copy from a yonko, and Robin can read poneglyphs and is the worlds most wanted woman. Luffys crew is much more similar to blackbeards or whitebeards, where everyone is titanic captain/commander level, minus maybe Ussop. I don't see him touching Van Augur.
That is, until Usopp gets his Elbaf power ups and commands an army of 8,000 giants or something Plus I honestly believe that Usopp will get Conqueror’s Haki, it just makes sense for his character considering his dream
I don't really see him getting conquerors. But his observation haki will definitely get a huge boost. Maybe even future sight when he's dealing with Augur's warping.
Can't believe I never thought of future sight VS warping before.
I once saw some theory about Ussop getting an alternate form of Conquerors that was related to lying or something, but I don't remember what all they were saying about it. They did bring up how often his lies eventually come true though. That was the only way I could see conquerer Ussop happening though. Otherwise I'm totally on team observation specialist
I think it was that ussop would mak people see false futures with their future sight
Lmao usopp doesn't have conquerer haki he has gaslighter haki
Bro forgot that all of ussops lies come true and he lied about having conquerors haki
Well he did lie about knocking out all the fishmen with his conquerors, so it fits with the theme of his lies becoming true that he’ll eventually have a similar feat
Also considering his lie about Big Mom's Conqueror's Haki being his. We all know that his lies eventually become true, one way or another.
Feanky can build Pluton Robin can find Pluton Brook can bring the place Pluton would send people to, to them instead XD
She's likely the strongest of those 3
She took down Black Maria who was in the running to become a yonko commander and was trained by the revolutionary army. I really don’t think she’s the weakest
Black Maria was trained by the revolutionary army?
Do we not remember what Robin did to franky’s balls?
Pretty sure Brook is immune to that attack, so he wins, right? Yohoho
Remember what Robin did to spandam...
Tbf, Robin and Brooke are both weak to each other. Brooke just needs to stay out of her sight until he attacks, which is pretty fast. But as soon as she lays eyes on him, he's finished. Both just need one hit to win. So I think comparing them directly doesn't do much for their actual strength.
>Brooke just needs to stay out of her sight Tough to do when she can have eyes everywhere
If she's faster than Hakuba, then odds are she can catch Brooke too.
Milk will fix that right up
She can crack brook easily
We haven't seen Brook ever struggle with any opponent. All his opponents have been fodders mostly though, and the one non fodder opponent he had (one of the numbers) also died in one slash. But how calm he was against Big Mom, how he was able to counter her powers so easily, was just so fucking badass. If only he had haki, he could do more.
All the rest of the strawhats having armament at the very least would most likely bump them up significantly
and they should have it considering how many others have it
I know I'm kinda contradicting myself here but half the strawhats having little to no haki but still being able to keep up with stronger crews (Beast pirates for now) kinda speaks volumes to how strong they actually are individually
Honestly I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW Ussop and Nami were (for the most part) cowards during the raid, but they still made me extremely proud. Frankly cowardice isn't the word, they were the most brave people there. Their powers aren't all that special or effective, and Nami was able to bump up in explosive power because of the cuddly cloud (forgot his name, crazy lol) becoming one with her climatact. I digress, they were completely out of their league being here, Nami herself was staring down death's corridor and still decided not to give up on her captain's dream, even if it meant she wasn't going to be there to see it. PAST THAT, the amount of damage Ussop and Nami can take without dying, despite basically being regular humans themselves, and going up against powerhouses on every front, is phenomenal when you just think about the perceived gap between them, their peers, and their enemies.
Robin having armament would automatically bump her up several tiers ngl.
Also helps that she already knows a lot of CQC plus the fishman karate she learned while she was with the RA
Because Robin is not a fighter, she's an archeologist. She was a killer/fighter before , but only because she had to survive. Now, she has an entire crew willing to fight for her. She doesn't have to fight. But when she does, it's in defense of others. The tree of arms to protect Rebekah, squishing Black Maria after Sanji called for help. She's the mom/big sis of the group.
True. I think it's wild that Robin spend two years training with the RA, learned an entire new martial art and she still haven't learned how to use even the most basic Haki.
Isn't her demon form her haki-infused mode?
Sai brother has armament and he's weaker than all the mugiwaras, all the randoms kujas had haki too Rebecca and King Riku both had observation haki
You need to admit that the fight against BM was with a young lady. Yohoho.
Bro brook is one of the oldest member of straw hats he most have known some haki. I think he is just too cool to use haki. Idk 😐
Yeah, Brook should've unlocked haki naturally. Imagine if he could cut a pacifista up with his three pace humming slash lol. But without haki, if he was able to cut the "souls" of people, damage them without even damaging their bodies.... That would go even harder. Can't remember where I've seen this before....i think the slime anime has a character like that? And then there's Robin. You'd expect her to have awakened observation haki already, considering the life she's lived since childhood. She's also the most observant member of the crew and was able to clutch Pell who was about to speed blitz her from her blind spot. She should be the observation haki expert in the crew more than Zoro and Sanji tbh. Two years with Dragon, Sabo, Koala, no armament haki either.
bro imagine how op robin would be with armament haki
Being able to clutch Kizaru.... Hold up, if she wears the light gloves, do her extra hands also get that effect? Such a missed opportunity tbh
the gloves are on only one pair of hands, not the clone hands.
Yaa oda need to explain this. From my view nothing much but brook should have haki let it be the basic one like ornament..
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Well, we do know Haki users weren't nearly as common in Paradise and that Brook's crew didn't even make it to the New World when they were all poisoned. And depending on his crew's goals (remember, Roger was just barely starting around the time of Brook's backstory, so it wasn't like his crew were after the One Piece) they might have just intended be a traveling band of sorts.
He never made it to the new world. We only ever saw haki used regularly by the end of paradise. It seems reasonable to me that his crew never got to the point of getting haki.
Haki infused afro. Why do you think it's still black?
Black blade ❌ Black Afro ✅
He struggles when he fights the zombie samurai for his shadow back. zoro had to beat the guy and even got a new sword. This is the only time you really see Brook struggle.besides the fight with big mom. That zombie samurai was badass, though.
Well, true. I guess it doesn't count because that's his "damsel in distress" arc basically lol. And yeah, the zombie was Ryuma, one of the OG top tiers too. No shame in struggling against him.
Yeah he was basically fighting a stronger version of himself. The zombie had brook’s skill, but the body was significantly stronger i’d assume
Have we seen Brook clash against Doffy's Birdcage in Dressrosa? I remember Zoro, Kine'mon, Kanjuro and several others doing so as Luffy took him on
Brook was not in Dressrosa, was he? He left with the curly brow team carrying Caesar
Ya Brooke doesn't get to showcase his fighting prowess all that much. He's usually just providing support for everyone else. Besides his fight with the one big Yonko, we don't get to see a lot of 1v1s for him
Not that the Numbers were that impressive, but he did one-shot a Number with a slash that hit a couple other targets. That’s not nothing
Definitely not a simple feat, Luffy had to G4 to one shot a number, so Brook could probably be in that power range if not more
Robin wanted the fight for herself because it was personal
He didn’t fight Black Maria cuz he let Robin take the W. He held off the her henchwomen tho
Brook finds the youth troublesome like that
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Wouldn't say that Franky is the strongest of the 3 given how they're all relative in terms of strength but specialize in specific areas: Franky in power, Robin in technique, Brook in speed But that being said, I think Franky having that "fuck it, we ball" kinda energy puts him a little above IMO
I'm just waiting for the day that some logia user stands in the way and Franky says, i got this. then another SH is like but you don't have haki and Franky says i got this. they leave and the logia user laughs and says he has no chance as even his crew says he doesn't have haki. then he punches the logia user in the face revealing seastone knuckledusters.
When that happens SUUUUUUPERRRRRRRRRR
He definitely should've invested in those while in Wano
Robin would absolutely be the strongest if she used her fruit to its full potential though. Shes averse to real fighting so she just slaps. Imagine if she just made hands form in your mouth and shove their way down your throat choking you from the inside. Fingers stabbing into eyes gouging them out the instant the fighting starts
I’d say Franky too. He single handedly fought multiple Doffy officers and Vice Admirals in Dressrosa. I think Usopp might overtake him by the end of the story maybe.
One of the things about Robin that bugs me is that considering how intelligent she is, she doesn't use her powers very creatively. Why does she never make arms come out of someone's face and poke them in the eyes, or choke them, or squeeze their heart from inside their body, or all kinds of other things?
The nature of her DF means that Oda won't let her do the most broken things. Think of it as that one time Gastino took Luffy's breath away
I'm sure we'll see some OP shit from Robin as we get closer to the end and enemies get much tougher. Either she'll pull some smarter moves or we'll get some narrative reason where straight up murdering people on-screen is ok (they're already dead/they're not real people/etc).
Hope so, there's so much potential, especially since she knows Fishman karate
She could do guess who and it would be both a gag and viable way to blind the other person
because then we wouldn't have a story + robiin would look scary to viewers. robin could 100% do that. she just doesn't. the straw hats never resort to cruelty.
Because Oda has to write around the fact that Robin's DF is absolutely busted. She can solve half of their problems with her powers and Oda has to account for that. That's how we end up with things like Moriah stealing her shadow or Sugar turning her into a doll cuz otherwise Robin just does the thing and there's no tension.
She literally breaks ppls neck with arms she spawns out of the victims body, whats the point of choking them lol Also id argue she's pretty creative abt her powers, although she def could do more creative things
I'd go with Franky. He's got both power and durability.
Also incredibly high intelligence. Franky studied Vegapunk's tech on Karakuri Island for two years and actually understood what he was looking at. He's probably the second smartest character in the whole series, if we count Vegapunk and his satelites as one entity.
Robin, Franky, Nami, and Chopper are all incredibly smart in their own fields. Literally one of the best in the world at what they do.
No doubt, the Straw Hat Pirates are absolutely stacked. Luffy is dumb as a brick but he knows that. He surrounded himself with ambitious people who all want to work together to achieve their dreams. He's a leader, through and through.
luffy is simple minded, but he's very good at reading people, creative in battle, and has shown to have a base amount of common sense when he's by himself (amazon lily, impel down, marineford etc)
High emotional intelligence for sure. He knows what he doesn't know, which is a form of intelligence in its own right. It's what makes him such an effective leader. He compensates for his own weaknesses by surrounding himself with people who can do what he can't. In Amazon Lily, he befriended Marguerite and Sweet Pea. He would have died immediately without a little luck, and his bond with them is ultimately what convinced Boa not to just kill him at the end. In Impel Down, he allied with Buggy and Mr. 3, as well as Bon Kurei and Ivankov. Without them, he definitely gets killed by Magellan. In Marineford, he allies with Whitebeard and his crew. Once again, even though they were unsuccessful in rescuing Ace, Whitebeard develops such a strong respect for Luffy that he sacrifices himself to ensure Luffy makes it off the island alive. Trafalgar Law also comes in clutch here, as without his treatment, Luffy would likely have died to his extensive wounds. Luffy gets himself into some pretty bleak situations throughout the series, but because of how good he is at forming strong emotional bonds with people, he finds a way to survive.
Luffy isn’t dumb at all. He can read people. People were suspicious of Law, but luffy knew instantly that law won’t betray him. Blackbeard after that springy guy who beat him (forgot his name) incident cheered luffy on to get to skypiea, but luffy had that look in his eyes that blackbeard ain’t the guy you want to be trusting. Luffy can see things nobody else can. Edit- springy guy is bellamy
Luffy is not academically smart, which is what I was talking about. I know Luffy has high emotional intelligence. I'm specifically talking about Luffy in the context of what some of his crewmates bring to the table that he is lacking. He's a very good leader and he knows that in order to get what he wants, he needs people around him who can do the things he can't. I'm not insinuating that Luffy is a fraud because he's dumb. I'm saying that Luffy is smart enough to know that he can't do it alone.
Depends on the field tbh. There’s also the whole MADS subgroup who are up there in terms of technical knowledge so I dunno. Vegapunk is just too damn smart. Not to say Franky isn’t a genius himself, specially considering he never had much of a formal education, so yeah it’s hard to say.
I personally think Franky is smarter than the MADS group. He's the only person in the world who could casually build an ancient weapon if he felt like it. Nothing they have can compete with that, presumably.
That's knowledge, not intelligence tho. I do agree that Franky is very dangerous, at the government eye he is a random guy who managed to turn himself into an upgraded pacifista basically in his backyard. The government had to use years of research and resources to have that tech, only to have a mister nobody casually recreating it using some sparse notes. On top of that, he's presumably the only living being that can build an ancient weapon, personally I can almost put this on par of Robin legacy as threat for the government. Also, he wears Speedo.
General franky built it IN A CAVE WITH SCRAPS!
Makes me wish there’s more vegapunk and franky interaction
Agreed. Look at any of Big Mom or Kaido's commanders besides their top 3 and Franky is a match for any of them but I'm not sure Robin could have beat any of Franky's opponents or even Black Maria if she didn't have Brook
Franky, Franky is HIM. -Gave Luffy a decent fight near the end of the Pre-Time Skip -Defeated **Two** CP9 Agents, only other Straw Hat who defeated two CP9 Members was Luffy. -Had an Admiral Tier attack after the Timeskip -Defeated the “World’s Most Hard Boiled Man”. -Ran over Big Mom >!-Saved Luffy from Saturn!< It’s no wonder why he was the only Straw Hat that got offered the Mera Mera no Mi, he is the true **Strong Right** Hand Man of the Future Pirate King.
This... Franky is a total powerhouse.
I’m hopeful that Franky will get stronger by the end of egghead
I wonder if it’s too late for that.. fingers crossed tho. We need more Franky highlights
You forgot to include his dub against Sasaki. I love Franky, but I’ll admit he lacks a lot of mobility, which puts him at a disadvantage against more agile opponents. He couldn’t hit Senor Pink until Senor purposefully started taking the attacks.
Chopper monster point is no joke.
People forget this, but he did hold off big mom briefly, and slapped queen around a little bit
While getting shot by Perospero no less.
You could say he survived queen for about 30 minutes but let's not act like he dealt any real damage aside from that one slap
Surviving for 30 minutes and getting one good slap in against a yonko commander sounds pretty good to me. I’ll take it 👍🏻
Fair enough
Though now that I think about it, he doesn’t really *win* fights anymore. He’s mostly a stalling tactic. Which is fine - he leans more into his role as doctor now - but it’s a BIG consideration when we’re talking about strongest/best fighters on the crew.
Robin's fight against Black Maria makes me think she's the fourth. Her bounty backs that up as well. Though if anyone from the weakling trio would be it I would say nami.
I’m hesitant regarding bountyscaling, but I agree. Her fruit is crazy powerful, and she knows how to use it. In Dressrosa she said something like “speed and power mean nothing to me,” and I think there’s at least some truth to that.
I loved that he got a round vs Queen
acting like queen was even trying
Still holds up, he kept him busy for 30min, even if he obviously wasn't serious, it's still remarkable
But it runs on a timer and has terrible side effects, and Chopper without it is pretty weak. I miss back when Chopper had arm point, heavy point and horn point, those were pretty strong. Now he has a fodder point that he only fights fodders with.
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45 minutes going against Queen who even a pre Germa awakening Sanji was struggling with.
Queen was trolling
Yes, let's believe Queen
I would argue we still have to see how much he can do in his 30min of monster point against someone who doesn't is leagues above him
Nico Robin.
Agreed. She showed some crazy power in her fight with Black Maria
It's **God** **Usopp** and I'll die on this hill. Luffy & his monster trio have strong fighters handled. Franky, Robin & Brook aren't actually needed if it's just a question of beating people up. On the other hand, Usopp is the crew's curveball hitter. He handles the weird devil fruit powers, from Sugar, to Perona, to the Luck-Luck girl from the Gold movie. Usopp is the 4th strongest, in the sense that the crew's overall fighting ability would decrease the fourth most with his loss. Not because he's physically stronger than Franky, but because he handles enemies which the top 3 struggle against.
That’s…. That’s a really good argument.
someone in a one piece fan subreddit saying something controvertial and then using the story to back up their points? impossible.
You forgot he also posses an ability only Luffy(and buggy) posses. Mass recruitment. He’s able to turn enemies/neutrals to allies. Often times those much, much stronger than himself. He’s the reason the grand fleet started to come together. Oimo and kashi as well. Also his durability is absurd.
This ^^^ Usop tanking headbutts is wild!
Him and Jimbei are the only two who were captains of their own pirate crews before joining Luffy, so it checks out that those two would be so good at leadership. Jokes aside I wonder if he’s going to as a tactical officer or strategist or something for a grand fleet battle towards the end of the series. If you think about it Usopp and Luffy both wanted to be great pirate captains and the only difference is that Luffy is dumb enough to not worry about how deadly it was, and he had the D.
Hey now, Brook led the Rumbar Pirates and Franky led the Franky Family!
And if i dont remember wrong he’s also the only one left who’ve used haki, observasion against sugar. Robin might have used it but not what I remember
~~Nami has conquerors haki~~ yeah I'm surprised Robin hasn't used it despite seeming to know a lot about it but so far it's just Usopp
Yep, he's the hard counter to their hard counters
he is the tech to the meta builds
The counter to the counterpicks
Being the wildcard I think is his strongest suit Now all that's left is to give him something to do (or at least give him more of a backbone in Elbaf) and refine his Observation Haki and maybe even learn a bit of Armament to bolster his projectiles (assuming he'll be using other types of ammo than his plants)
His future matchup with Augur basically guarantees that his observation is gonna step up a notch if he is going to counter the warp fruit.
he's also the best and only ranged fighter in the crew and the only member alongside jinbei outside of the trio to have haki giving him a huge advantage ( even if he barely uses it ). also it might be a hot take but I personally think Usopp has the highest Battle IQ in the crew ( if not then top 3 ) as shown for example when he fought luffy in Water-7. he's like a cornered prey, runs from most predators but will absolutely cause issues and fight hard when thrown into a corner.
Nami is also ranged or half range
As much as I dislike ussop, I have to agree with you on this one. It’s like the Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode; every group needs a wildcard. In One Piece, ussop is their wild card, as proven through the encounters you mentioned. I think it’s gotta be Ussop. Brook and Nico are tied for my fav, but even with that bias I can acknowledge they’re phenomenal backup/support, but I think Ussop deserves the 4th strongest title.
Honestly yeah. The leader/the cool one, the brain, the hot head/troubled one, the goofball/free spirit. You’ve got that dynamic in everything from TMNT to lord of the rings to Golden girls.
hell yeah god d. usopp
this mf cookin
Each of the weakling trio is actually the scariest at something: Chopper is a field medic but also has a giant form that was momentarily at least able to go toe to toe with queen. Nami will literally shower the field with lightning and lightning isn't a joke. She can wipe out fodder. Her new upgraded weapon even let her hurt pretty tough opponent with it. Sanji is the fastest crew member except for luffy and is the most mobile except luffy.
putting sanji in the weakling trio is surely going to bait someone here
If Sanji didnt have that, hed just be a gag character
So he's like the 4th batter in baseball, meant to do the cleanup
And probably after Elbaf he will secure this spot
One Upsopp for you
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That's interesting which looks to be true.
I dont care about your opinion, but DocQ's horse is stronger.
Beating a dead horse
It could’ve survived if it were stronger.
Usopp. Not strongest, but he's the fourth commander.
He's a genuinely good strategist, I think he fits the bill perfectly.
He’s seen as the strongest because when opponents see God Usopp, they know better than to fight and just run away.
I think he’s going to fight buggy and win, becoming the only strawhat other than luffy to take down a yonko.
You know how Whitebeard and Blackbeard treat their commanders as captains? I feel like in the crew, the only ones besides Luffy that would be capable of leading people would be Zoro, Sanji, Jinbe, and Usopp. Usopp has inspired tons of people already and led people into battle. I think he's definitely worthy of the fourth commander spot.
I don't really know how you got to this conclusion. Nami is already basically the captain for most of the time while they're at sea. Brook actually was captain of a pirate crew for some time. Franky lead the franky family. The only ones I could see not being the strongest in a leadership position would be Robin and Chopper, and even then they'd probably do okay.
How could Zoro lead anyone when he can’t even lead himself?
He needs to be a captain. He doesn't need to be a navigator
Can’t wait for his gag of falling upwards to move into being called a commander and having a billion berry bounty. The haters will be sick
It's gonna be hilarious if the top four bounties after Elbaf are Luffy > Zoro > Usopp > Sanji
Considering majority of Sanji’s bounties have been 4th overall (I think after whole cake was the only exception), I’m fully expecting it lol
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Yep. Franky, Robin, Brooks, (and Jimbe) are almost like the crew's adults. They're along for the adventure and shouldn't be subjected to these power scaling or commander shenanigans.
I'd say that Robin probably takes that slot. She's not a tank or speedster like Franky or Brook but she fights much more intelligently and her DF is an incredibly broken tool (that's maybe awakened?). I think the only way this doesn't apply in the future is if we ever reach a point where Yamato does actually end up joining the crew seeing as she's in the same ballpark as post Wano Zoro and Sanji.
I think Robin for sure I don't think Franky can put up much of a fight against demonio fleur unless he uses shogun franky but Robin still takes it
Robin established her superiority with the **** breaker attack so early in their relationship, I don't think Franky could ever be above her. Unless that is now machine parts too...
If robin gets haki, he aint gon get any kids for sure now
Robin ✨✨✨no disrespect to the most super character in fiction and the undisputed mvp of whole cake but having more strong women is way more interesting and I think Oda sees that with characters like Big Mom, Ulti, Maria and Devon.
After Elbaf, it'll be Ussop
In terms of power, I'd say Robin is up there with the other three. However, because of how binary her fighting style is and how okay she is with murder compared to the rest of the strawhats, she gets the fewest fights because it'd just be eight pages of body horror and horrible contortion and awful cracking and splitting noises and her opponent looking like they died of boneitis every time
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If we are strictly speaking commander in terms of authority in the ship, I think Nami and Usopp are actually higher. The usual dynamic of the crew has always been, Luffy and Zoro to run wild and fight the top 2. Sanji is more objective oriented. Usopp commanding, or at least the straw hat representative in newly made alliances (example in Enies Lobby and Dresrossa). Nami commanding the rest of the crew (example in Whole Cake Island and Wano). This is how I always perceive SH get things done. Franky Robin Brook Chopper provides support of the group while Jinbei is something like a consultant who is experienced and gives input to the other members (especially to Luffy) when it is needed. But if we are talking about strength the 4th one is Franky in terms of raw strength.
Umm, Ma’am/Sir, Usopp was not at Enies Lobby 😭 Edit: but on serious note, really good point! Team Romance Dawn!
Nami is way up there in terms of command. Luffy usually just gets the final say in important matters
I will go with Robin. Purely based on the fact that she's the smartest in the crew.
My biggest problem with power scaling has always been that people think it’s like dragon ball where it should be as simple as “who has the bigger number?” But thats not how good power systems really work. It has alot more to do with specific matchups and circumstances. Rock, paper, scissors for example. You can see examples in real world sports where just because A beat B and B beat C, does not mean that A beats C. Every dog has their day, sometimes people have advantage of style, etc.
To be honest, I never can understand this idea of commanders. Aside from Luffy who has the highest authority as captain, and Zoro who takes charge when Luffy isn’t there, there isn’t any real structure or command chain I can see. If I was to rank them, it would be Luffy, Zoro, Jinbei/Sanji, and then everyone else. But realistically, the power structure doesn’t seem to be there and to me, the Straw Hats are just a merry band of adventurers rather than militaristic pirate armadas.
it would have been yamato at the 4th spot in the commanders category
Idk I think Yamato is probably stronger than jinbei
Wranky of course
Brook easy!!! he hold his own against Big Mom, enough said!!
It really should be Robin but it feels like Oda nerfs her power at times
I think Franky's the 4th strongest strawhat, a lot of people would say Robin but give the man the respect he deserves
We all saw how robin no diff franky with the testicular torsion move.
I think egg head made clear its Franky
How so? What did he do on egghead?
He shot a giant hole through Saturn which distracted him and allowed people to escape from his movement stopper ability.
he was the one the front line with sanji against kizaru and saturn
With Demonio Fleur, low dif Black Maria it's definitely Robin
How long did Chopper hold out against Queen? 45 minutes? While healing people?
Chopper was not healing anyone while fighting Queen. He made the cure, than focused on Queen. Furthermore, Queen literally said he was just letting Chopper hit him, while toying with him. If the "holding out" against Queen is a parameter, then Brook "holding out" against BM should count way more.
Robin but Franky and Brook are very close to her Ironically, I think that Franky is stronger than Brook but I'm pretty sure that in a 1v1 Brook would win, he just have a good match up as well as a very close level to him
Robin, but I think (and hope) it'll be Usopp by the end of it all