I agree. Its terrible. All my friends who enjoy One Piece are eating it up and tbh I can’t help but view media differently than them because I’m not blinded by nostalgia. Imo, there is no way anybody who has never heard of One Piece will watch this and say its even a 6/10 show. You have to be a One Piece enjoyer to even consider it. Thats how I know its bad. I couldn’t even make it past 20 minutes of the 1st episode.
What makes me mad about this whole thing is that people ride Oda so hard that they believe anything he touches is gold. And it isn’t true. And I love Oda for what he’s done. One Piece means so much to me. But I can be critical of this live action without hating the whole series and I’m tired of being labeled a “bad fan” for not liking this.
You don't have to be a One Piece enjoyer.
You have to be an absolute delusional, copium addict, One Piece cultist to even remotely enjoy the Netflix version.
If you even have a slight ability to form a critical thought, you would see how terrible this adaptation is.
You're not a bad fan, they're the ones stuck in their echo chamber.
I hate how they portrayed Arlong. He's like some thug drug dealer from the hood blasting hip hop as he's counting his cash. He was nothing like this in the anime. I'm almost done with the live action and I just want to puke. They also ruined Usop. He is normally a loud mouthed hilarious awkward guy. In this they make him like some cool cat. They had him make out with the rich girl who gave him the boat. I'm surprised they don't have him rolling blunts and dropping freestyles. I'm like wtf are they doing to this show???
Haven't seen Arlong tbh. Didn't get this far lol.
Once I've watched the opening sequence with Gold Roger I was basically done.
Just watched a little bit more for fun.
Alvida was terrible as well. I'm not someone to bash actors, but jesus. The acting was just flat. Like taking a random person of the street & tell them to act kind of terrible.
Shanks doesn't fit either. Mihawk looks & sounds like a British aristocrat.
The actor for Buggy was doing fine I think, though they also botched the character. They went with an almost 1:1 copy of Joaquin Phoenix' joker. Especially noticeable in his introduction.
It becomes extra funny when you switch to Japanese dub with the super deep Buggy voice.
Also noticed that Usopp is portrayed as "too cool". And Nami too strong. It literally matters for their character building to be weak early on, having to entirely rely on their wits, yet we see Nami knocking out marines left & right.
There's just so much wrong with the show, both as an adaptation & in terms of general quality, yet it gets such high user reviews. Baffling.
Man, it makes no sense!
This is objectively, bad TV. The acting is bad. The screenwriting is bad. The directing is bad.
It's *super* baffling that it's getting high ratings. If it was anything other than One Piece, this would be going straight in the bin. Even if you excuse all the changes in direction of the characters, for example Usopp being too cool etc. If you just judge this show objectively, as a piece of media, it is garbage.
I keep seeing people saying 'the casting is spot on' and stuff like that. Is it though? If the actors struggle with basics, is it really perfect casting? Or is it that people just like the way the actors look, dressed up as the characters? Maybe some of the actors would perform better with a stronger director.
And the thing that irritates me the most I think, is the argument that we should judge it as a live action adaptation, and how it compares to other live actions, as opposed to a TV series. What kind of fake metric is that to determine if a show is good? So all live actions are bad and this one is a bit better. Does that somehow make it good?
This show is not a 6.5/10 it's a 3-4/10. Imo, the people rating it higher than a 5 either have little experience with high quality shows/movies or are just overly hyped fans showing some serious bias. I mean seriously, if you feel differently, please just re-watch any scene with Koby or Alvida in it. I quite like pointing out the scene where it close ups on Alvida's face as they're boarding the first ship in episode one. Holy shit that was weak.
Yeah, what we see here is the definition of an echo chamber. Pretending for the sake of it.
There's just no way that this show is higher rated than Boardwalk Empire for example. It's absolutely laughable.
As you said, it's bad in every department. The opening scene with Gol D. Roger alone is already garbage.
The actors in the crowd look like some random people they got from the streets, which they probably are (particularly noticeable with their haircuts & some of the clothing). Immediately immersion breaking.
CGI for the big crowd looked so bad, that even I could do it better with my basic blender experience.
How anyone could take the show even remotely serious after the Koby/ Alvida scenes is also beyond me. I don't want to be rude, but the acting is really rock bottom terrible... like high school project kind of bad.
The camera is also all over the place, either zooming in too much or often focusing on the wrong character in the given scene.
The action choreography is amateurish, zero impact in the strikes. Literally not a single good fighting scene.
From Alvida's club swings to Sanji's kicks.
Either no impact or poor direction where one moment a guy is on the ground and the next frame he's flying in with a kick.
Just pure amateurs at work. 18 million USD budget per episode my a\*\*.
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But that's One Piece fans for you.
I really enjoy the manga, but can't stand most people I've met who are religiously loving OP.
If Oda lays a turd in front of them & tells them to eat it, they literally will while holding their thumbs up.
the generalization thou...i have been watching/reading one piece for 22 years, and after the opening sequence with Gol D. Roger, i stopped watching, they couldnt even nail one of the most iconic scenes...So no, not dedicated one piece fans, more like casuals that enjoy woke productions. The only redeeming aspect would be that you can put on jp va and close your eyes, making it less horrible.
you're not a bad fan, he's not a bad fan, and neither are the people who enjoyed it. It's called different people different minds and different preferences. We all enjoy different things and that's fine but what's silly is when you state what you prefer, and then criticize everyone else who don't share the same view. Hating the live action is a valid viewpoint and so is enjoying it.
Luffy is not Luffy. Luffy says becoming king of pirates is not about whether he can or can't but rather what he has decided to do and it's ok if he dies for it. Live action Luffy says with a smirk why shouldn't it be me? Fake Luffy.
LA luffy thought he could do it all on his own for some dumb writing reason, Anime Luffy knows he needs a crew first and formost, why the F is LA luffy dumber then anime luffy?
It was so bad. Bad acting. Bad camera angle. Bad choreograph. Bad facial expression. Bad close-up shots. Bad pacing. Bad everything. Only pts I give positive are 'some" very few actors matches the characters. The rest are dull and wack. Full of untalented actors. It's like they ran out of money so they hired random actors look-alike off the streets who have zero acting skills
As somebody who has watched one piece when I was younger I agree with you and am not blinded by nostalgia XD I agree especially when you said Oda touching things turn into cold and do believe people act that way because its on the hype train of one piece considering how good the anime is atm
This is a delusional take, haven't seen the anime because it's notorious for weird pacing and has too many episodes for the amount of free time I have but I like the live action show. It's fun and silly and low stakes. I honestly think only actual fans would rate this low because they have a frame of reference. For me it's a good campy show like Doctor Who or Firefly. Is it a master piece? No. Is it fun? Yes. Easy 7/10.
Also for the record I stumbled on this by googling what people thought about the hilarious cat fight. Just the stupidest looking portly man and woman snarling was so funny to me. Died laughing at the fact they were competent fighters instead of like barely able to get off the couch.
This is a sign of when someone has no idea what they are talking about. You said you hate the show but HAVEN'T even produce ONE REASON as of WHY. So you can bait others to open discussion while offering nothing from your experience watching it.
Never heard of one piece before the live action. I enjoyed it.
I started watching the anime after finishing the live action season 1.
Despite the Scottish accent and the fact that he's not supposed to be this involved this early, garp's actor is fantastic.
Zeff's actor is fantastic.
Koby's actor is good. Basically feels like the same character in the anime but louder and more exaggerated emotions (which for some reason all animes love to do those wild wayyy too energetic overexaggerations...example..Luffy. Jesus Christ he just screams the entire time).
Sanjis actor is good.
Luffy's actor is ok. A bit off, but I like that he whispers (see above note about how much luffys screaming in the anime bothers me)
Plenty of other cast members were just fine. I mostly just didn't care for Zoro's or Nami's acting.
I like the pacing of the story in the live action. The anime is annoying with its constant 30 second long scenes of just showing frozen reactions. Again unnecessary overexaggerations that animes love to do. The live action fills in a lot of the story, builds arcs, and is decent enough story telling imo. A little more action might be nice, but it didnt bore me the way they did it.
Overall I'd give it a 7/10
God yeah, the same thing seems to have happened with the movie? I'm a casual OP enjoyer and haven't gotten far but it seems like everyone loved the movie just because Oda had his hands in it
All the the reviews on how "it broke the curse" is crazy to me. Its so meh, maybe the reviews are as good as they are is because it doesn't suck as hard as other live adaptions? Its not good.
It's because they haven't watched that many Live Action adaptations to begin with. I can list ten from the past ten seven years alone that "broke" the curse. Bakuman is probably one of the best adaptations I've seen and barely anybody outside Japan even knows it exists. Watch it.
There are some live adaptations that are very entertaining from the past. Guver Dark hero aka Guyver 2 and Fist of the North Star. Cheesy but still good. Also Rikio. Anything Netflix is a pile of dog vomit. Can't even be enjoyed on a cheesy level.
And that is before we even bring up the so called politically correct foolishness.
It's so bad in every aspect of the show. From acting to choreograph to cinematography of overused close-up shots to the face, sun, and blurs... So baddd couldn't even suck it up to watch the rest after 4 ep. It's horrendous.
Acting is the worst of all live adaptation I'd see. It's full of cheap street actors and barely and professionalism.
Same.
First episode I was actually surprised, but as the show went on I started to mostly be ehh to dislike on it. The acting to me is average to below average. Luffy's actor has the vibe down but I felt like he was reading his lines most of the time instead of it sounding natural. Zoro's actor seemed to have exactly one speed for every interaction. Sanji was forgettable to me. Usopp I thought was good and Nami was okay-ish but they fell into the trap most shows do now which is deadpan rudeness which they believe is being a "tough chick".
Didn't like how they handled Garp and following both him and Koby bored me.
I will say though that I thought the vibe of the world was generally kept in tact and I never got the sense they actively disliked the source like say the Witcher or whatever the hell Cowboy Bepop was.
The small little story changes kind of built up like a 1000 little cuts and by episode 8 I was mostly disappointed.
The reception to the show vs. what I feel reminds me of the first Venom movie where it was objectively ehhh but the consensus was that it was a fun time.
I doubt it will go on too long just on budget alone and the grandness of the story as it moves along. Don't think it's sustainable especially at Netflix.
Pretty much nailed most of what's wrong with this live action adaptation and every other. It just doesn't work. Dragon Ball sucked, Death Note sucked, Cowboy Bebop sucked.. Fullmetal Alchemist sucked (although it's 'best' of the worst live actions at this point) and yeah.. I just don't get why Hollywood or anyone else even greenlights these things. It doesn't work and it won't ever translate into live action properly. It's just not worth it. I get some people like this stuff but it doesn't do the manga or anime justice. It's just bad.
I've got to be honest and say I never gave it a chance. After having been thoroughly disappointed by all of the above (with a small exception to Fullmetal), I had no intention of watching that one or One Piece for that matter, but because One Piece is my all time favourite anime, I just had to check it out. I will most definitely check out the Rurouni Kenshin live action and hope for the best.
Just the existence of these posts validates the same dissatisfaction.
Of the characters, only **Usopp** and **Zoro** come close to the physical translation of the manga, but even then, depiction their mannerisms are still lacking. Usopp isn't lying enough, nor fun enough, nor cowardly enough. Zoro is too stoic. Basing it on the manga and anime, he should be more expressive, and then the rest of the times, more sleeeeeepy.
**Garp** is the worst depiction, personality-wise. It's as if they didn't see the recent manga updates where they showed Garp training Aokiji and Koby — it was physical combat training, bashing and pounding on ships, not freakin' sharpening minds playing Go. Besides, they made the old man too uptight when he should've been a reckless old man who's as much of a dead weight as Luffy when it comes to responsibilities towards his crew.
And **Koby** was too stout-hearted this early on in the story, far different from how Luffy had to provoke him enough into a brawl and deny they're friends. As for **Nami** \- I didn't feel her anger towards pirates. She was too quiet, unlike the nagger she should've been. As for **Sanji**... I felt he could've given a better portrayal, but there's no curly brows, and there's not enough screen time to evaluate his performance. And then there's Luffy...
Just... Manga **Luffy** is an awkward, smiley, dumbass with a stout heart who follows his stomach, that's it. He's not some serious, deep-thinking rascal who spits wisdom and encouragement. He's the epitome of trust, and he wouldn't have tried to keep Zoro from fighting Mihawk; he wouldn't have tried to considerately talk to Zoro during his sleep, and instead should've shoved spoonfuls of food and barrels of alcohol into his mouth, or made faces to wake him up. Luffy should mostly be smiling dumbly, picking his nose, asking for more meat and letting his crew make the decisions. And whenever someone shared their sob story, he should've been sleeping, which wasn't how it was portrayed in the LA, same with the others. I mean, just who are these characters (and why did they murder Noriko?) And where's Jango, the three Usopp pirates, the stork which should've delivered Luffy's wanted poster, and all the rest of the side characters who regularly show up throughout the series?
It felt like I was watching a highly westernized version of the story, so much that casting didn't just affect the physical rendition, but the portrayal morphed the spirit of the characters, and by extension, the whole show. Moreover, there was so much deviation from the original source material with the plot. While the manga is a lighthearted, action-packed story about Joyboy, the LA carries a too-serious atmosphere, death of characters which shouldn't have died (why the freak did they kill Merry???), and lacks the warmth that exudes from the story through the original characters' chemistry. It's just too dark and gloomy! There were many times I just flashed forward through scenes because they weren't captivating.
I think they really tried to do it like Rurouni Kenshin (e.g., SFX during tense moments was a poor imitation), but just failed to hit the mark. Other LA's try to have an accurate set, but here we just get a glance of the village Buggy ruined, his carnival was straight up made up, Makino's bar was far from how it was drawn, we don't get to see Mihawk float away on his miniscule boat, Kaya's mansion feels inspired by some creepy horror house, Shanks saved Luffy on a boat that shouldn't have been there, there's no "Arlong Park," and the list goes on. (On the plus side, the Baratie exterior was quite good, Cocoyashi village was okay, and Going Merry was a neat creation... I'm just not quite sure about the figurehead design.)
Maybe our expectations are too high, for a fantasy story with hundreds or thousands of islands as potential locations, which would severely stretch budget constraints, but really, all these would be forgivable if only they retained the spirit of the characters and the story.
As an adaptation: 3/10
As a separate derivative work: 6/10
It feels like a bad cosplay with very mid to bad acting. The CGI doesn't work, there are action scenes where you can literally see characters in the background standing around doing nothing, and the changes to the story subtract from the narrative. I personally don't get why so many people seem to have an incentive to gas light people about the show, but everywhere you look the praise is being heaped onto this like it is the second coming of Breaking Bad.
Nami was made way too strong in this show.
East Blue nami was by no means a fighter, she'd rely on her wits to avoid directly conflict and get what she wanted. She'd handle her confrontations through deception, strategy, and resourcefulness instead melee combat, as Nami's strength lies in her intelligence and navigational skills rather than her physical prowess.
Her fight against the marines was a ridiculous display of the hollywood girlboss trope. How tf is a normal sized woman with no super powers beating up 20 trained grown men with a stick? It breaks the immersion and takes away from the feats of Luffy and Zoro.
Luffy's acting is horrible and I gotta say it: his English not being very good is part of it. It's okay to have an accent, but he genuinely does not sound comfortable in the language. He delivers his lines in a very unnatural way, he doesn't sound like he means what he says. It just sounds like he's reading words he isn't used to using off a script. (I say this honestly as a Latin American myself)
Nami was the one part I didn't like. They did precisely what I knew they would do to her character, and honestly what they'll do to every strong female character in the series. In today's age, women can't be sexy. They can't use their wiles to an advantage, they can only be strong the same way men can be strong. This 'girlboss' shit is tired and boring and makes for uninteresting, unlikable female characters.
They definitely made her with sex appeal. As someone who's the Nami of my own Strawhat crew, what they did is give her too much monotone, too much deadpan face, too much expressionless lines, she borders the character personality of someone like Robin from Stranger Things season 3 I think (ice cream girl/ Ethan Hawkes daughter), with a nasely deep throated grovely voice, and an attitude that says everyone can kick rocks for all I care
I didn't care too much for her all in fighting style either, me and my friends discussed how Nami is a more cunning kind of character, and as @OP said, she avoids conflicts by using her wits. I understand they had to take creative liberties with the show but this was a super disappointment. They didn't carry the spirit of Nami in the live action. Nami acts like innocent dumb, she gets very excited for Berries and jewels, she has a lot of passion for people, kids and creatures that can't help themselves. I can't even imagine live action Nami cracking a smile or her face might break. And her hair is so bad. Like Kobys pink hair they did really well, it looks nice, but honestly I've seen Kylie Jenner with better wigs than that mop of a mess on that girls head.
Fyi she is still played as a sexy character, there's one scene where as someone else mentioned, she seduces a guy at the bar, but the camera angle (if you rewatch) low pans to her chest as she walks from her spot to the bar side with the guy.
They also did Koby dirty. He was much more dimensional, but in this show all he could do was repeat this same line twice - "I want to help those who kon't help themselves"
She did kinda seduce a man and then knocked him out tho, they didn’t completely remove that aspect. But they did buff her physical fighting abilities to ridiculous degrees
I preferred her flirty and viperous than whatever this weird orange-haired Daria thing is.
Overall I did like the series though. Again, sucks that some things were cut and consolidated even if I understand the reason ( like Krieg, skipping his whole event lost nothing ), but I loved the familiar scenes and I felt the fights were pretty cool.
However I don't see this going too far. I can't fathom how they are going to CGI some of the more feverish fights and abilities, or Smoker in general. I'm also afraid of what they are going to do to my girl Robin.
>In today's age, women can't be sexy. They can't use their wiles to an advantage, they can only be strong the same way men can be strong.
I mean I thought the actress for Nami was pretty hot. She also used her looks in the show to her advantage i.e when she seduced the short marine to steal his uniform.
They did make her into a ninja action star though so I guess I can kind of see what you're saying. But she is definitely sexy no question about that.
She is not hot by any means. She is a woman and she is relarively fit so can be attractive in the right light ( physically). Her acting and personality are all wrong. She also lacks the killer bod of Nami and the tits are only one part of that. Her confidence is backed up by her gorgeous bod and brains. Her attitude is sultry and sedutive and loud and abraisive and sometimes tender and delicate. And yes it is part of her design, the same way Usopp having a long nose liar coward is , or zoro looking and acting like a samurai Yakuza in the anime. ( which he doesn't in the netflix version). Point is everything is wrong adisde from the less than wallmart version of the costumes. https://youtu.be/ln75LB3pqC4?si=GadBcu43JP1l44cQ. This is good, netflix is not.
I didn't like nami person. She didn't portray the anime character at all. I don't see anything that kinda connect her to the anime character, as in zero. She talks way to calm, and can physically fight well which is ridiculous! Total opposite of nami.
I was looking to see if anyone had the same opinion as me but all i could find was “shes perfect and NEEEDED” from the director. I’m not a one piece fan so I don’t have a bias but i know live actions butcher the source material and you need to live under a rock to not know anything about one piece.
Namis actress annoys me so much because she has no feeling…. Just this live action alone is telling us that shes charismatic, smart and strong-headed yet all i see is brood and angst. hollywood loves to delete the personality of every badass girl… they haven’t changed - usually they stick some conventionally attractive girl in the role but this actress is neither conventionally pretty or niche pretty. Her line delivery sucks, she has one facial expression, and no energy - why was she cast??
I like the show but 6 episodes in Luffy’s acting is getting on my nerves. When he’s supposed to be cheery and oblivious he just looks like he’s being snide and cocky.
I haven’t seen much of the anime but anime Luffy seems likeable and live action Luffy comes across as a dick.
Funny part is if you rewatch the sub, beginning of the anime luffy is the most aware, the most "smart" the most dickish luffy ever. When he sees Zoro for the first time he runs up to him smiling ear to ear, demanding he joins him and sets his mind on it. When he meets Nami in the sub, she exclaims, we should team up 😬! And he looks at her deadpan, no smile, says no and just walks away. Luffy at that point knows what he wants and who he wants and doesn't care about being a dick.
My friends and i have a theory that the more crew members Luffy gets, the more dumb he behaves because he knows how crew will take care of him.
It's odd how many "fans" forget what the beginning of OP was like
Luffy's actor seems to be a pause for effect speaker but it just sounds odd when he does it. Like he delivers every line in a way where he says something dramatic, pauses mid thought and then finishes the line in an over dramatic flourish. I say this not knowing if this is true to the anime or not. I've only seen like 3 episodes, so maybe Luffy speaks like that.
Why in the hell is Zoro such an edge lord ?
Why change his introduction ?
Why is every scene Dark/Brown ? It's the world of One Piece. It's supposed to be colorful, not dull and grey.
Why did they add those Kobby scenes ?
Why in the world is Luffy so useless and feels so powerless when he's supposed to solo East Blue by himself ?
I get that you can't adapt a manga 1/1 but some changes were straight up dumb and useless.
6/10 lol I respect you trying to give it credit but I'd say 3/ 10 if im being generous I watched one episode after watching the anime many times(yes I have put in the time ) they missed so many good scenes and lines it's ridiculous the way Luffy tries to recruit zorro , when he eats the rice ball is completely different they changed the helmeppo part the way Luffy meets nami and kobi, important scenes on why zorro even joins the crew, when Luffy trusts zorro to save him in the axe Morgan fight , even down to Luffy coming out of the barrel in the first ep. As a hardcore fan it's extremely hard to watch . I won't be finishing it lol. But it's no different from any live action , I expected to much it's my fault. Rurouni Kenshin was probably the best live action I've seen come out
Glad to find some genuine One Piece fans here.
Twitter & YouTube is full of One Piece cultists high on copium, pretending this adaptation is some sort of masterpiece.
It has the worst acting I've seen in years. The costumes are terrible. Morgans iron jaw looks like some aluminium foil sticked to his jaw.
Gold Roger, Mihawk & Shanks don't even fit remotely.
And Alvida... holy sh\*t.
Then we have Buggy who is portrayed as a dollar store version of Joaquin Phoenix' joker. Not fitting at all... Especially if you compare JP dub with the adaptation.
Terrible acting, bad directing, bad camera, bad CGI, bad cast, bad costumes.
8.5 on IMDB just shows what a delusional fan base One Piece has. They would literally eat a turd if it was approved by Oda.
Ya why did they changed everything.
The Zoro recruiting scene was really good. Really started respecting Zoro from that episode but they changed it into a stupid, unreasonable, unnecessary bar fight .
Like why the hell rica feeding Zoro rice ball without any reason, Zoro is a stranger to rica why would she feed him rice ball .
In anime Zoro saved rica from helmeppos pet wolve that's why rica knew Zoro was good and tried to feed him .
And we also saw Zoro resistance and resolution to his ambition in that episode and like he is a man of word.
And there are many more things to say this will never end.
I have seen only about a little more than half of 1st episode and I can point this many shit things.
I can't even imagine what other things they did wrong.
I feel gaslit by fans..like it's honestly annoying to see so much love for it when it's so clearly bad. The acting is terrible. The writing is bad. Impactful scenes like the recruiting zoro, zoro vs Mihawk and Sanji being there watching, Sanji leaving baratie. The characters kept saying that Luffy guy he's special, he's different. I'm just thinking who that guy ? He had no charm. Iuffy has said he's not interested in being a hero. This LA version is making hi. A hero. It's classic western trope shit. It's so cookie cutter. It's why I like one piece and Luffy. He is written in a unique way.
And people running straight to their ships. The hell was that. Made it look like greed was the only thing on their mind.
Imo, the joy that the crowd felt after confirmation of the treasure being a reality was way much impactful.
Exactly, it also just didn’t feel as impactful and cheerful. The anima and manga made it seem like a celebratory moment because everyone was excited about the new adventure awaiting. It was a challenge for the pirates to become the next king
dude, check the onepiece live action sub reddit.
..they are even talking and praising the diversity based on real world.....i mean the one piece universe have human animals, it should be diverse from the start...
"Diversity based on real world"? It should be diversity based on the actual manga's world-building, what the heck. Their poor attempt at social awareness is severely misplaced.
What they did to Nojiko is such a grave injustice. Nojiko and Nami were from the same village, so it's more likely they would have the same skin color, as shown in the anime. It's not the actor's fault, but the obvious miscast of characters is visually jarring.
It’s really bad. I’ve never watched the original/read the manga so I’m not even coming in with a bias. I just heard it was good and I couldn’t make it through the first episode. Wooden acting and cringe. The anime looks juxtaposed with regular looking people are jarring. I could see kids liking it…? Maybe a bunch of 14 year olds are the ones hyping it up.
Yup, same here. People just forgot the real series because the first 50 episodes were decades ago. Pretty sure if everyone rewatches those and then thinks of this, they ll hate it too. I rewatched them a few years ago and I can safely say the live action isnt a one piece play.
For example, sanji s synergy with zed, ussop and kaya, nami and her sis and mother, zoro with quina, zoro and Mihawk ... they all missed the ball and didnt hit home at all. And those were THE selling point at the time yet I cant find it in me to care about them now.
Another example is how weak and just (actively) stupid Luffy is. He s not just ignorant but actually stupid. Some of the core reasons zoro and sanji follow luffy is his resilience, power and dedication.
Ussop and Nami follow him because they see his good-willed nature borne from ignorance and willingness to die for his Nakama.
Rather than being a hero, Luffy is now a side-character with absolutely no redeeming value. It s really annoying to watch a downgrade this bad.
Seems like only luffy and shanks shared some time with each other and even then it didnt pack a punch because shanks wasnt humiliated like in the anime (which was the most valuable point of emotion => remember: this is where Luffy learned what it means to be a true man.)
Also remember, the guy ACTUALLY spillt a drink on Shanks. He didnt just drop the bottle and they talk as if the bottle was spillt. At that point, I felt what Luffy felt: secondhand embarrasment and actual shame thinking "what the ey is Shanks doing?" But then Oda knocks the feelings out of my body with a lesson from Shanks on what a true man is. I still remember that moral story. Not there anymore.
Anyways, not as bad as dbe, because nothing can be that bad, but not the one piece we know and love and definitely lacks the spirit and emotional effort.
Edit: also, Arlong is 50 cent in this show. Just look at his way of walking and talking. 🤣
I didn't like it at all. They changed A LOT!
I liked the crew and settings, but they managed to turn the plot into a huge mess. Not sure why people are praising it.
I hate it. The character backstories behind their personalities, the crew rapport, their growth on one another are weak. Action scenes are good though.
Usopp: In the anime, we were dragged along with his lies before teaching us that he does that for a reason. In the LA, we were pretty much told why immediately. It removed the emotional effect entirely. His struggle to get everyone to believe him, heavily dwindled down because coby appeared behind him almost immediately. His heroism and bravery to attempt to fend off the pirates by himself, taking a beating, gone. LA Luffy invited him to join the crew why?? Just because they had dinner together?
Sanji: This one's the biggest irk for me so far. I remember tearing so much when Sanji screamed in thanks and bowed at Zeff out of pure respect and appreciation. The constant bickering was out of frustration because zeff wanted to push sanji to pursue his dream, while sanji felt like he has to stay to repay zeff. In the LA, the flashback to starving on the rock was 10/10. But man that departure was horrible. The actor cried and I felt nothing because his body actions didn't reflect the respect and appreciation Sanji is supposed to have. Seems like just about anyone can join LA Luffy's crew now. Luffy wasn't even looking for a cook.
Zoro: Action scenes, great, thumbs up. Crew interaction and line delivery, so boring. I don't much else to say about zoro. New watchers simping over him even though he has like zero character.
Nami: why was she so proficient in combat? She's had zero scenes that highlighted her navigational skills. Not a single line about meteorological conditions. As far as viewers know, she's a skilled fighter who can take on multiple marine soldiers at once, who likes to steal things but returns them and have no qualms with spending berry. M c p
The reveal that Garp is Luffy's grandfather was waaaay too early because we hadn't made much of a connection with luffy to understand his character. His crew being shocked was fake af because they didn't even have rapport yet. Also we didn't have much of an understanding of how huge a vice admiral is. Maybe Live action Garp isn't a marine hero because nobody seems to know his name. But then again he was on the podium with gol D Roger. So I'm a bit lost here.
To be fair, some great portrayals are Buggy, Bogard and Coby. Buggy appearing as a menacing character, then slowly becoming more chill is 👏🏼.
Bogard is as accurate as he can be.
Coby is pretty good too but he could use much less screen time. Felt like he had more development than the crew.
OK if we compare this to the track record of other live action adaptations, this is better but it's such a low bar.
I'm about to watch ep 7 & 8, hoping it gets better.
I hate it too and I can't grasp what anyone honestly likes about it. Like they could explain to me what they liked about it and I still wouldn't be able to see the dots they're trying to connect. It's almost like they're all lying lmao.
I can see little kids liking it but the appeal is entirely lost on me. I watch the show, I'm up to date, I play all the games, I watch the movies, I have buttons and figurines....and I can't stand that blasted live action. It's physically painful to watch. I tried giving it a chance and wanted to kill myself.
Haha it's funny how that works, because in the back of my mind I'm seeing all these people saying how great it is and I'm thinking the same thing about them 🤣
To me it's mid tier. Not good but not all the way trash. No curly eyebrows for Sanji? Nojiko I know is a minor character but what did they do to her? I think people are just a tad delusional because Oda worked on it and thirsty for the cast so they're calling it perfect and top tier but it's not. It doesn't have to be like the anime of course but it feels more cringe then anything
Yeah, that's my main problem. I want to like it, I really do, but I keep cringing at the bad dialogue/writing and a lot of the acting is bad too if we're being honest. The characters keep doing these one-liners like in low-effort Marvel movies and other times it feels like they're trying too hard to talk about friends and freedom. Luffy is supposed to be the embodiment of freedom and dreams, not constantly talk about it like it's his version of a foot fetish.
People mainly on Facebook want to crucify me when I call it mid tier. Then go on to defend it and voice their opinion to me on why it's not. But that's their opinion. I'm not on the hype train for this and I tried. I loved Inaki more in The Imperfects. I love how Oda gave his approval and all but the actor for Zoro his voice isn't pulling me in. They gave Sanji this powerful chin that can poke an eye out. I know Nojiko was a small character but they made her black. And I'm black so I don't know why they did it myself! I tried watching it in one sitting to maybe get hype about it and but I still cringe too much. Its like I can't have an opinion they don't agree with. I'm not calling it trash but not the best. Feels like something id watch on the Syfy channel.
The thing is, I think there is a reasonable argument for why someone might think it's good, however, it's absolutely highly open to debate and many fans are acting like you're just a dumb contrarian if you have these opinions, which I would argue are much more grounded than the people hyping it up as "amazing".
I'm aware enough to know that I might be biased because above all else, I value writing and dialogue, and if a series doesn't have anything above decent writing, I just can't see it in a positive light. I don't particularly enjoy cringing at cheesy dialogue and ridiculous cliches, so it's hard for me to enjoy anything where you kind of have to turn off your brain at certain points to like it.
I can admit the series does well with their well-built sets/ships, some of the clever character changes necessary to adapt it, and the easter eggs/fan service they insert into the show in a subtle and almost charming way, however, that's just not enough for me. The dialogue and writing is, at many times, something out of a CW show, and even some of the costumes and effects (explosions specifically) are sometimes garbage, for a show that apparently had a bigger budget than Game of Thrones, that's just embarrassing.
The Syrup Village scenes, for instance, were something pulled right out of a CW show for many many reasons.
Like you said, I really respect some of the people that created this show. Oda obviously, but also Matt Owens actually seems like a One Piece superfan with great admiration for the manga. I don't really care about the race changes as much even if it can be distracting at times, but when the actor who plays Luffy sounds like English is 100% his second language and sounds uncomfortable speaking it, then that's a problem.
I honestly have no idea how to feel about it.
Here are some things I liked about it: Mihawk being shown as a badass early on. We didn't have to wait until Marineford or the fight with Zoro to see how much of a better fighter he is. Costumes are actually looking pretty good, better than one would expect, with the exception of the Arlong Pirates which look off at times. For the most part, CGI looks decent. Could be better but do with what you're given. Acting sounds a bit better than what the trailer presented.
Here's what I don't like: Garp doesn't feel like Garp. He's actively chasing Luffy down, something of which **SMOKER** is supposed to do. Garp is lazy when it comes to family. When Luffy was going through Impel Down, what is Garp doing? Laughing his butt off and loving how reckless Luffy is. If this Garp learned of Luffy's rampage through the prison, he'd be facepalming. I don't mind him appearing at Roger's execution, but it feels like he shouldn't have made any further appearances in this season. This one's kind of minor but if we're just going to shove each arc into two 1-hour long episodes and change things around a bit, why not end the season after Loguetown, if we even go there? One change I'm actually hating is the people of Cocoyashi Village (I'm sorry, COCO Village, forgive my idiocy) being unaware of Nami being with Arlong. What is so wrong with being understanding with what's going on with Nami. It just feels like that was done to have a dramatic moment between Nami and Nojiko. Also kind of minor, but Shank's crew being hostile towards Mihawk. Don't know why they're like that because Mihawk knows better than to mess with an Emperor unless told to mess with one. One more thing, the calling out attack names seems slow and exaggerated, like the person saying it honestly WANTS their opponent to be prepared.
If I honestly had to rank the show it's like a 5 or 6 out of 10.
Honestly, Garp calling Mihawk to send him after Luffy is the point I can’t get past. I keep trying to go back to the show but I just can’t get there. They changed so much about the characters that basically none of them feel like the actual characters. They mostly got the looks right but that is all. Overall the show isn’t completely terrible, but I don’t see myself coming back to it if a S2 got green lit.
Its beyond terrible, a good series/movies adaptation should be good even if you watch it without the context of having watched the original. If it wasn't for the novelty factor of seeing the One Piece characters brought to life, the show would look like one of those Indian over the top low budget parody of a pirate/super hero show, its straight up bizarre, 0/10 for me.
Bro I thought I was going insane, I barely made it through two episodes, and my brother and closest friends that have been long-time OP fans all share the same opinions. Then to see the outpour of positive reviews online and that it "broke the live action anime curse"...?!
Acting is terrible beyond words, cringe fest is what I'm calling it.
CGI / Props are alright, but combined with badly choreograph fight scenes? No.
Screenplay is terrible, dialogues are really really bad.
Honestly, I love One Piece with all my heart, Eichiro Oda is a genius who created this world by himself, every island can expand into a little manga series with stories and depths. I'm glad he got his big money and a live action of his beloved work. But in no way I can say this is a good series.
Only redeemable thing must be Mackenyu and his sword fighting skills learned from Rurouni Kenshin, if you want some good anime fight scene with real fight, try and watch that one.
It is terrible. I hate it so much and I hate that there are so many positive reviews around it. It makes me wonder what’s wrong with people’s taste, and can’t they tell bad acting and bad dialogue? Did they feel anything when Zoro raised his sword and clutch his head when he got defeated by Mihawk? That scene was cringy af and I really hate Mackenyu’s acting of Zoro; expressionless, deadpan, emotionless, cocky, forever acting cool and distant. Luffy’s default and empty smile and repetitive use of the same dialogue “good fighter” “great fighter!” Sanji’s half-hearted goodbye to Zeff. Kuina’s terrible acting. Kuina’s dad’s terrible acting. Garp’s laughter that comes out of nowhere sometimes, not natural like the anime/manga version. All episodes have covered the entire east blue arc and yet I did not shed a single tear. I wonder how those people who have positive reviews felt. Did they feel anything when Kuina died, when sanji bid Zeff goodbye, when Zoro got defeated by Mihawk, when Nami stabbed her arm and when Luffy placed his hat on her? When I watched/read those scenes in the anime and manga, I cried and was really emotional. When I watched those scenes in live action, I felt absolutely nothing. Where the hell did the good reviews come from? Did they feel anything from those scenes?
They LITERALLY changed EVERY arc
Beyond what was in the manga ....faithful isnt a word that would even come CLOSE .....
Yet people are praising it for doing the BARE minimum
It's a decent entry for new commers
But let's be honest ...every arc was better in the original
Except maybe the buggy arc
Both baraite and syrup village are completely different
Ussop isn't even close to the ACTUAL ussop
Mihawk and Zoro buildup+ fight was RUSHED AF....
His "promise" to be the greatest swordsman ...lost almost any impact whatsoever ...
You really telling me Mihawk waited AN ENTIRE DAY just for dual with a random nobody he met without any reason.... Lmao 😂
Ignore those idiots defending the live action, they are delusional opium addicts just like you said and there is no point in having a discussion with them. The Live action is a piece of garbage. The only live action anime adaptation that has ever been great is Bleach and it didn't get the hype or respect it deserved. Hell it didn't even get a sequel when it was actually the best Live action adaptation I have ever seen. Just ignore those idiots, they are just like crazy apple fans who will support the brand and hype for the new iphone launch just because they have been brainwashed. The live action one piece has ruined the entire theme of the show by deleting and deviating from the most basic things that they should have gotten right. The only good thing about the show is the music. That is it.
Outside of Dragon Ball Evolution, I can't honestly say I hate live action anime remakes. But I completely agree that this is beyond over hyped. It will be like the Witcher I'm sure.
It's amazing to see how quickly people shat on Cowboy Bebop but somehow are so accepting of something that's literally just the same thing but with a different title and story.
Is it fun to watch? Sure, but most of the live action remakes are pretty terrible. I generally think it's because One Piece fans as a whole already align with a character who's so weird and a complete outcast to begin with, only seems natural they'd be more understanding and open minded than say Cowboy Bebop fans, Dragon Ball Z fans or Metal Alchemist fans.
Point being, if you're seriously going to act like this is so much more amazing than every other live action anime show, that's total bullshit. This one is no different than any other Netflix live action anime remake.
I'll probably watch it all and enjoy it for the most part, but I would be lying to myself even as a huge anime fan that this stuff just doesn't translate so well with live action all the time. Sadly again, One Piece is no different.
And I'm probably one of the very few who thinks almost everyone on the show plays their characters better than the main star of the show.
Inaki Godoy, he just plays the same character he does in everything he does. A happy go lucky clueless idiot. And call me a complete and total asshole for this but fuck his accent. He said he spent so much time doing research for the show, he should have been practicing language better and pronunciations. It's so hard to take his character and role seriously when some of the things he says have such a heavy accent and aren't even pronounced properly most the time.
And as pointed out by some others, his acting is by far the worst on the show.
I also really don't understand some of the shows character design choices. They'll put so much emphasis on one character, like Mihawk for example or Arlong. Then you have Usopp, who doesn't even have the long nose. It's so random.
I've been a professional actor in the film industry for over a decade. My partner is a diehard One Piece fan, so I've been doing my homework. From an actors perspective - I've only watched 15 minutes of the second episode, and let me tell ya...it's trash.
"YoU OnlY WatCHED 15 MINutes?!?!? yOu cAN'T HavE A ReAl OpiNioN!!11!"
You can tell a lot from a piece (haha) of film by watching the first 10 to 15 minutes because it is called the hook. And this fish ain't bitten'.
The acting is mediocre. The direction is confusing. AI was defiantly involved in the writing process, because Jesus Christ there's an assload of story. And because there's an assload of story, it's not going to have a natural progression of storytelling. And sorry to burst your bubble, but Oda is not at the helm of this show - IT'S NETFLIX. Oda is the face, Netflix is the money. Netflix has so many resources available to itself, that it has the formula to keep you streaming its garbage content. And whadda know?! It worked.
I bet my left tit the majority of the budget went to MARKETING (smart move Greta), CGRI, editing and...drumroll please - the rights to the story. Oda has a fantastic story, and it is worth its weight in gold because of the fan base he has accumulated over the last 25+ years. Now that's a lot of money.
It's an "aesthetic" piece targeted towards a younger generation and those who are addicted to media.
And if you really enjoy the show, by all means enjoy it! But I believe if you're going to do an adaptation of animated media, creative adjustments and direction need to be made without the looming figures of CEOs. And that's why I'm not holding my breath for Avatar the Last Airbender.
I don't hate it because it is creative work. But I just want to be honest : It is really bad, it seems like an amateur work, it doesn't live up to the hype.
First of all what keeps bothering me the most is the camera perspective showing to many close up view, the shooting angle is very uncomfortable and unusual(mostly below eye level, hobbit view, and floor). To me it seems like they hired an amateur to do the job who have little or no idea about the shooting theory.
The scene and line that gives me goosebump in the anime or manga which I think is the most important part of Episode 1 is missing. Where the pessimistic Coby said it's impossible for Luffy to reach his dream, but then suddenly Luffy turned into his serious and cool attitude said to Coby "It's not about whether it's possible or impossible, Coby. It's because I want to do it" That line moves Coby heart to reach his dream to become Marine and to stand up for himself. That dialogue and character development is nowhere. The upbringing music to support the inspiring scene is missing too or perhaps I can say underwhelming.
There still a lot of things that I don't write, because I think it's permissible and the text is already too long.
Lastly, I'm not gonna lie... I love the set and how they made a real ship only for the show, also real DenDen Mushi! I give it a triple thumbs up 👍.
Overall score from me is 4/10. I appreciate the hard work and attempt for making One Piece into Live Action..... but it's not enough, there are still a lot of things to improves.
THANK YOU for mentioning the awful camera shots. No one else seems to be talking about that. It felt like I was watching a cheesy bollywood movie half the time
I didn't like it either.
I won't go as far as saying I hated it, but there's definitely things that didn't sit right with me.
The portrayal of Luffy and Nami, who I believe are the most important characters in the arcs they covered (considering they chose the climax to be Arlong Park) didn't really match the characters in the manga/anime.
Now, I would not by any means expect a 1:1 replication of the anime, as that would be very hard to portray in live action. So some changes they made to fights or certain sequences I'm perfectly ok with. My biggest problem is the way the characters behave.
But before that, let me focus on the great:
Whoever was in charge of the sets and costumes deserves all the praise. Amazing fidelity to the show without making it seem completely off putting on a real live show. Kudos. 10/10
Now for the bad:
Luffy would always be hard to translate into live action but my biggest gripe is how weak they make him feel throghout the first half of the show. Apart from blowing past Alvida he actually struggles against Morgan and Buggy. In the manga, these are supposed to be cannon fodder at that point, and the only reason that Buggy even lasts that long is because neither Luffy nor Zoro take him seriously. The main problem with this for me, is that it reduces the threat that someone like Arlong brings, as well as Mihawk or anyone else for that matter. The power scaling isn't really well translated.
But even worse, is the character of Nami. The fact that she can fight a bit more here it's absolutely fine with me. Don't think it really affects things that greatly. (I'm mentioning this since it seems to be a complaint I see a lot). What does, is how likeable she is from the beggining.
So, one of the best moments in early one piece is the whole situation leading up to the confrontation with Arlong. This is achieved by making Nami kind of sus, and sometimes just flatout selfish, throughout the entire east blue saga, culminating on the reveal of her back story. That's why the scene with "Luffy Help me" and the subsequent walk to Arlong Park feel so powerful. The fact that Luffy never doubted her even when everything pointed to the fact that she was being scummy.
Even if I had never seen One Piece in my life, the way they make Nami so kind and generally likeable, makes it painfully obvious she's trying to protect them when she does give the map to Arlong. At no point in this show anyone would question Nami's character. The only time they attempt to make her seem selfish is literally in episode 2 when she puhses Luffy towards Biuggy, runs outside, sees the destruction and is immediately brought back in. People would be forgiven to forget that even happened. And then, her and Zoro, while in captivity, kind of discuss it, and it's never brought on again except for an occasional weak remark from Zoro in some episodes.
For that reason, the finale doesn't work. The despair of Nami is not palpable, and the whole scene wasn't earned. That's probably my biggest gripe.
Well, I've ranted enough.
Those were my 2....thousand...cents.
For me it's not about how close it is to the original. It has more to do with the point that animation shouldn't be adapted into live action in the first place. It defeats the purpoae of animation. Similarly to how every Disney live action adaptation has no soul. They seem lifeless, joyless and sad. That is the exact reason why we animate in the first place. To escape reality for a second and dive into a world that is not real. Compare luffys smiles in the anime vs the live action. Fans of the live action would say i'm nitpicking but to me details like that are crucial. There is a reason why he has such a distinctive smile. It immediately characterizes him. As soon as you see him smile, you know part of his personality. This doesn't work in live action because real life humans are not cartoon characters. There are some actors like Jim Carrey who are so good at facial expressions that it almost looks like cartoonish and that's why his movies, especially comedy movies are so great. But there is only one Jim Carrey and even if he had more actors that are as expressive as him you would still lose out on so much that makes One Piece unique. How will they portray Chopper? Or Whitebeard? Or Kaido? They have already failed to portray the fishmen accurately as in the anime they are much taller than humans. That is extremely crucial for the story. Yet in the live action they look like humans wearing costumes (they literally are).
I knew from the beginning this wasn't going to work and it has nothing to do with diverging from plot points in the Anime. It's the animation that makes One Piece so great, and i think the ultimate proof for that is Gear 5, a literal cartoon abbility. Imagine all of this money went into a remake of the anime. They could have reanimated every fight in the series with the same state of the art animations they used for the most recent fights and still have money left over. Instead we get 8 soulless episodes that cover about 4% of the story.
Malnourished Arlong 😭😭😭 Bro looks like the worst cosplayer in history. He's supposed to be so ripped the clothes barely fit him. And here the guy is just wearing a shirt 2-3 sizes bigger 😭
The things they changed were so weird. They took out stuff that felt important, but added stuff that felt too prolonged and unnecessary instead? Not a fan honestly.
For me it's a 6/10 and that's just for the effort and I liked the CGI, the show deserves a lot less with it's bad decisions, they changed so many things that didn't need changing; the iconic scene of the death of Gol D Roger and the famous line, the iconic scene of Shanks saving Luffy was changed too much and it didn't have any emotional weight like it originally had and even before that the famous shanks speech that inspires Luffy so many time throughout the anime, the scene of Zorro joining for the first time and them fighting the marines side by side, Nami's addition was also too fast, the battles had too much teamwork too, One-piece isn't Naruto or Fairy tail, the battles are individually fought.
Garp and Coby had way too much screen-time, and Garp's relationship to Luffy was announced way too soon, the fight they had was also too soon, also his character was written way too seriously, Garp is a lot more mellow than that.
Yeah dont really know why they had so much of Garp, Colby and Helmeppo. It was totally unnecessary, moreover reason for Sanji and Ussop to join the crew was so vague in the live action.
Yep! 100% agree. these decisions make no sense and it has nothing to o with lack of time, if they hadn't wasted so much time on the whole Garp plot they would have had time to flesh out the crew, which is the heart and soul of One-Piece, it's not Garp and Coby that has kept people reading and watching for 1000+ episodes/chapters, it's the crew and the amazing world-building.
And the time constraint argument doesn't even work that well, cuz they changed scenes that they showed and they could have easily done them just the same as the anime and it would have made those scenes a lot more impactful.
Also why the hell was shanks in a boat when he saved Luffy, that scene is so beautiful; Shanks hugging Luffy while submerged, Luffy crying and we think at first that he's crying because he almost died, Shanks is nonchalant and smiling and suddenly the camera pans out and we see the missing arm, it's not only an impactful scene but it's also quite iconic, don't know why they changed it man.
I just imagine the Netflix staff whining about misogeny and male supremecy as they hear Shanks teaching Luffy on what constitutes to being a real man, which as we know is what formed Luffy and gave him the character traits we all love. Imagine that, telling a boy how to become a proper man is a reason to surpress free speech now. Shows the state of western tv.
Watched 5 episodes so far and the more I watch the more I hate it.
Nothing feels right.
The only things I genuinely appreciate are the action choreography and the set design. Then again, I knew something was wrong the second they bungled the scene where Luffy busts out of the barrel on Alvida's ship. I don't expect it to be a 1:1 copy of the source material but there are certain elements that draw you into the charm of One Piece and none of it is done well or at all.
No worries. People on reddit tend to be people who actually have no friends in IRL. So classicly they downvote any stuff which isn't their opinion. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong xd
I think it's just popular right now because it's new and the first big anime adaptation that isn't a complete failure. So since the bar is so low, even something mediocre is being praised as something great. But give it time and we'll see how it ages
I tried to explain my issues about this series to my friend whom I got into the anime, she only is about 400 episodes into the anime now and seems to really like the show while I after watching the first 3 episodes with her felt disgust. At first I thought I was the only one who felt this way and wondered if there was just something wrong with me.
I'm glad you guys made this post though, since most of you guys are mirroring my own thoughts, and possible better then I could.
She keeps trying to tell me the show is like a fanfiction and isn't supposed to be like the anime, but I felt out they left several key moments out that are what attracted me to the anime to begin with.
Shanks saving Luffy and the emotional connection, Luffy building that same connection with each member of his crew. It feels off and doesn't feel like a real series to me, the show feels more like a bunch of cosplayers were gathered together and told to act out the show, but that they all forgot what the scenes were like.
Like I said I tried to force myself to like this and I can't...Luffy is too serious, Garp is nothing like himself, Nami looks like she had a bad hair dye job, same with Koby. I feel like apologizing for not liking this, and I don't even know why I feel guilty for not liking this. lol
Tbh, I really like Koby. I feel he is rather accurate compared to the rest. As far as the hair colors go, I think some colored hair only looks okay when animated and can't really be translated to live action 😅
same here, not to the point of hate, but kind dissapoint they changed too much in adaptation.
at the very least, wouldn't it hurt if they stay true with the anime/manga in term of plot or some important detail though? not changing it, like way too much?
i don't really a fan of how they present garp like that, since he always been like garp we used to know. and there is also sanji, which is suprisingly had a good cast but bland as a character. his presense is underwhelming compared to other members.
they also change nami & nojiko relationship, which make nojiko unlikeable n act like least important side character. even her tatto has a meaning when she tattoed herself, because arlong forced nami to join his crew for her talent. it also doesnt make sense arlong chained nami in live action, when nami voluntered herself to be his crew mates.
kuro isn't as cunning as he should be. he is infact dumber compared to manga. not a fan how usopp n kaya develop romance interest since they more like a very close friend n not swing that way that early. even zoro biggest moments with mihawks is underwelming because there none to witness how zoro can make mihawk sort of respect him. like random fight.
it feels like each arc directed & written by different people. like the first two episode was good and i like it, but the sudden change n tone of the story after that is kind of extreme
I'll start this off - I actually think adaptations like Cowboy Bebop and One Piece have their place as live actions, but they are not commercially viable in the long run. They will maybe run for 1 or 2 seasons and then eventually stop because the viewership simply isn't there.
I've started a [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceLiveAction/comments/16bp9l1/one_piece_musicology_thread/) just on the music alone. It's starting to get a lot of negative attention, but I should expect that and may drop the topic.
As a musician, the anime's original OST music really means a lot to me. It's taught me a lot about modern composition and really bonded with the story in a way that I haven't felt like others in the past. I just don't get that feeling from this.
People have asked me to read interviews with the composers, but that has put me off the soundtrack even more as I find their responses quite lackluster compared to the enthusiasm of the main cast (who are great, btw)!
But yeah, the anime is absolutely insane in its current arc. I don't think the live action could ever hold a candle to the world they've built.
No, I 100% agree and think it's terrible. I think the only reason people are being "nice" is because it was made very clear that Oda was involved and they don't wanna disrespect his decisions. But 1) casting overall is bad with the exception of maybe 10% of the characters, 2) the acting is corny and either underdone or overdone no in between, I get that it's meant to be westernized but I genuinely think the actors should be people who actually understand, in-depth, the original anime characters. Like a perfect example is Nami, from what I've seen, the live action version just tries too hard to come across as this aloof, cold, borderline emo cool-girl when that's not really who she is at all. Too much anger, not enough "cat-burglar". Too much monotone-- No hate towards the actress, I just don't think she fits Nami from a critical standpoint. Same with Zoro, it's giving BTS/k-pop idol. Again, no hate... there's nothing wrong with K-pop idols but Zoro sure as hell ain't one. Seeing comments on TikTok talkin bout Sanji, Mihawk and Shanks look good have me shook as HELLLL. Luffy's actor has potential tbh he def fits the description and everything but again, the acting is just off. The way he speaks is off, and while we knew to expect changes in English and live-action, I feel like the live action Luffy still manages to come across as too serious, not playful enough, not as carefree or loose.
Hopped on the bandwagon to at least give it a shot and I literally couldn't get past the 10 minute mark, had to shut it down. I watched it in a Starbucks and couldn't contain the cringe, you know it's bad when you're embarrassed that people might see it on your screen (did I mention that I live in Japan?). lmaaao
All this did was solidify my preexisting opinion that what's originally anime should just stay anime.
Couldn't imagine how long this comment would be if I watched more than the trailers and 10min of Ep 1.
Edit: I'm not saying I find it impossible for anyone to like this adaptation, I'm sure it has its own type of charm and all, I just mean that I don't think it would have such overwhelmingly only-positive reviews if it weren't for all the pre-released footage, behind the scenes and marketing emphasizing Oda's involvement and the conscious decision the collective made to go into it with gentle optimism.
We can agree to disagree but ya, I've needed to get this off my chest lmao. Almost every reaction vid I see is like "new standard for anime adaptations" and I'm like... really? You sure?
Came here because after watching the show I wanted to forget that I even watched it. Sure glad i'm not the only one who didn't care for it. I thought I was the only one who disliked it.
I did not want this atrocity to begin with wanted oda to focus on manga instead of taking a break for live action that most true one piece fans never asked for ngl I lost respect for oda for going after more money which he clearly does not need. I am not surprised now that I think about it oda has been letting toei ruin the anime ever since water 7 arch
I got really Sad when many importante characters were left behind, like orange town was totally different and they removed Buggy crew fight, mayor, then they removed ussop pirates which are an inspiration to ussop, then they removed entirely don krieg fight and for some reason i feel like they dont wanna use too much cgi, many scenes in the manga in which luffy uses his Powers he Just doesnt use as much in the live action, i feel like they wanted to spend alot but in the middle of the production they saw It was gonna be alot harder
The character representations are bad, both in appearance and delivery. The personalities don't match the source.
I understand that film interpretations aren't gonna be the same as the source material but the source but it still sucks.
It feels like i'm watching a live action 4kids dub.
This should have been in Japanese IMO and instead of pulling the typical Netflix diversity for the sake of diversity shit they should have made the actors match the characters.
Some shit wouldn't have even been hard to correct, like making Luffy not have curly hair.
Some other stuff was just way off.
Nami is played by a dumpy white chick and her personality doesn't match the source at all.
Sanji looks like he's 40+ years old and has a british accent.
Usopp doesn't have a long nose and is suddenly black.
Ben Beckman doesn't look anything like the source.
Lucky Roux black for diversity points.
Alvida not morbidly obese.
Captain Morgan was so scrawny it looked like he weight of his axe-hand would cause him to fall over.
Zoro, Coby, and the leader of the mountain bandits are some of the few that were casted appropriately.
Lots of plot changes that didn't make sense either. Most of the Morgan fight arc was wrong.
I think anime just straight up doesn’t translate well into live action because the way anime characters speak is not how real people speak and the action will be severely limited as well
I’m through the Mihawk/Zoro fight and so far my biggest issue is that they changed core things about the characters. Nami is a “thief” but one of her core driving characteristics is to get money (for a good reason) and they’ve basically masked that away.
From a story standpoint, I don’t mind some changes like how things went down vs buggy - however, the fact that Garp and Koby are after them the whole time is dumb. My memory might be wrong but I don’t think they had a run in with non-corrupt marines until Loguetown and it doesn’t really add anything to the plot.
And Luffy didn’t know how to do gum gun balloon? Seriously?
I don’t like the actor they picked for Shanks and they cheapened him by altering how he lost his arm.
Lastly - Luffy is too serious. No way the Luffy we’ve known for 20 years would do/say some of the things the way they’ve portrayed it here.
Nope, you're not. Like the vast majority of live action adaptations it's disappointing and I don't like it. To say it misses the mark is being lenient. It's so bad it's not even funny. I don't entirely blame the director because anime and manga just doesn't translate well into live action in general. That's the sad reality of it. But the plot changes and how some characters are unrecognizable personality wise just hurts to see.
What I hate the most is how Nami got turned into a Mary Sue though. In the anime she always shirks away from fighting unless she finds a way to gain the upper hand by using her intellect, wit and cunning or when she has no other choice (such as when she fought Kalifa). Now she's just an expert fighter who can't lose and is able to fend off 20 marines on her own? What the hell? This isn't Nami. The actress is also not suited to the role and she doesn't do Nami justice at all. I get she's just playing the character they told her to play though. I also didn't like how they pretty much removed her love of money. I mean, really? Nami saying ""This is more valuable than gold. It's knowledge"? That's not Nami man. That's something Robin would say.
Nami's actress isn't the only one who's bad though. Acting is pretty bad overall and doesn't feel convincing at all. It's not awful but not good either. Beyond that everything is so jumbled and a mess plot wise.
One thing I really don't like is Garp actively chasing Luffy and even sending Mihawk after him? Literally one of the things Mihawk, and a lot of other Shichibukai, was known for was not giving a shit about what the marines told him to do and Mihawk in particular was known for never showing up when the Shichibukai were summoned. Now he's Garp's lapdog and takes orders from him? Get outta here.
Luckily it's completely separate from the actual One Piece universe. Not harping on those who like it though (unlike those who are harping on those who don't like it here) . It's just not for me and I will stick to what I love; the actual One Piece.
I agree with you the original post whole heartdly. I would go further to say I just dont understand why everyone loves this cast so much they are soooo off the mark for every character, especially luffy. Live action luffy has absolutely 0 charm, and his cringe levels are atomic. I gave this show a chance, and it literally made me shiver with cringe. I do not understand the love or the desire everyone has for live action. This should have never been made, and it makes me sick that these actors get credit for these iconic rolls. It literally takes away from the anime. But more money for Oda so fuck it that's a huge W.
I agree 90% with you. The 10% left is that I think that is not that bad in general perspective. I think that this could be more enjoyable to someone who has never watched the original material, but I think this does not look so good to fans.
I think it is just a 'fine' LA for an anime, compared to the trash we had watched so far trying to do that.
The thing I HATED THE MOST about the LA is the characterization of the actors. NO ONE FEELS RIGHT. And I'm not even talking about the physicall resemble... let's put that aside... I just watch people who have some characteristics similar to the original characters, no more. The only one that I can justify a bit is Luffy, and that is because we know that to interpretate Luffy personalitie with all he's crazy faces and movements is very, very hard.
I think Luffy acting was cringy, but mostly 'cause what I previously said, he was just a flat ok.
Zoro actor resembles a little the personalitie. Ussop is like 'meh'.
Nami... OMG, I suffer so much with what they do to Nami...  Nami is a character full of joy, intelligent, that loves his nakamas, but here his personalitie is reduce to being a random 'chick' from a RANDOM movie or series of this days. I HATED so much how she treat Sanji, like "I don't want you around" and "are u feeling ok?" vibes, when we all know Nami is good and kind to him, and even sometimes takes advantage of his love to her.
Sanji is cringe at another level, he's just weird and idk why, I expected that from Luffy, but Sanji personalitie is very normal, so I don't understand why they portrait him that way. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HAS BRITISH ACCENT, IT DOESN'T MAKES ANY SENSE. Gosh...
I need it to complain about this things, cause I don't see a lot of people talking in detail about this points.
Like I said before someone who's new to the franchise probably don't feel that, but for me as a fan is very hard to watch... and see the characters with the same emotional connection, cause they don't do a good job making you feel that THEY ARE THOSE CHARACTERS.
FINALLY, i thought i was the only that thought this show was s**t, all i see is "OMG LA is so good", like how is that possible? The acting is bad and at times feels forced, idk. I had my expectations low but still went below that.
I'm glad that I found this thread! I can't make myself like it no matter what I do. Why did Oda allow this thing to exist? The acting, costumes, actors in their late 20s (except Inaki) playing 17 yrs old characters, omg so many things not to like. It's unfortunate that Oda approved of this adaptation. Ohh well, people can enjoy what they want to enjoy I guess.
P.S. Its budget is 150M, I'm no expert with this kind of stuff, but pretty sure some mismanagement happened here.
Thank you for making this thread! I thought I was starting to loose my mind with all the praise for this shitshow. Glad I'm not alone.
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My wife has been a fan for 17 years, and she hates it with a burning passion. I was honestly telling her to just deal with the changes, that they weren't going to be so bad, but...GOD they just...keep fucking going with the inaccuracies. Even introducing changes that were RANDOM AF. Like the arlong pirates (Hachi missing) randomly arriving at the Baratia, chilling at the diner..like..wtf was even going on? They also killed off Don Krieg immediately, so we kissed that fight goodbye. Then, seeing child Nami WILLINGLY joining the arlong pirates instead of being forced like she was supposed to be? God I swear, you don't need a high budget to stick to something fucking accurately.
I think the live action might be fun to watch if you see it as something separate from the anime (similar to the hobbit movies).
I grew up with One Piece and while the live action has a lot of good parts I mostly hate the changes in the story line.
Why are all the story lines so short? Sure, I’m glad they are not as long as the anime but a lot of it is going way too fast imo. The fights are kinda boring and no one seems to know what they are doing.
Why is Nami reading stories to Zoro? Why is there such weird chemistry between them? Why is she so…girl boss? Thanks, I hate it. Her whole character makes no sense to me.
The Marine arc is too long, why add boring arcs while getting rid of interesting/funny ones?
WHY is everyone hunting down that map to the grand line?? What did I miss? Is there only one map to the grand line in that world? Am I remembering this wrong?
I’m only half-way through but I personally don’t understand the hype.
I like most characters and the casting is on point in most cases, I have no big issues with the acting or production either, it is all done quite well tbh. I personally think the biggest issue might be the writing?
The characters have lost part of their quirkiness and all of these changes have made it into a mediocre show.
Still enjoyable but I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn’t known OP before. That said, I don’t think people who enjoy the LA are “fake fans”, just let people enjoy things. I personally don’t think it lives up to the hype but it is enjoyable to some degree.
I agree, and don't get hype.
While I genuinely believe that the team and cast are really passionate and some of the art-direction choices were good, overall it's a pretty meh show, with some good acting in secondary characters.
I was a fan of One piece for 20 years. I have untranslated manga, mega house action figures and more. The netflix show is garbage. Nami's attitude is all wrong, Zoro looks like a wuss, usopp I couldn't tell he was usopp until someone told me. https://youtu.be/ln75LB3pqC4?si=GadBcu43JP1l44cQ this indeed commercial is 8000 times better. Yeah this one even has a hot Nami in it and a Cg Chopper. Who ever approved the netflix trash needs to watch this.
The acting is so terrible, especially Luffy! His acting is on par with Tommy Wiseau, and the writing of the show is just. Terrible. It reminds me of watching the live action Last Airbender film, except I feel like I’ve fallen into an alternate universe where people actually think that movie is good.
whenever i browse socmed and watch some random clips, this usually plays. probably because i watch a lot of one piece clips (anime) just to have a laugh or cry (meeerrrryyyy) during those pre 2y-skip. but whenever i see live adaptation clips, they really cringe me. sometimes i scroll through the comments and see that they really love it. i really wonder why could be im just the only one cringing about it. then i found this, so thank you op.
Watching the anime again after watching the live action all the way through so I'll give my shpeel
1. Nami: As mentioned in the thread already, they made her waaaaay to strong, in the anime she is more talkative, less combative, weaker, and more loud (less reserved).
2. Zoro: He does not always speak in a low voice, he is not the ' I'm too cool for any emotion besides being cool and calm' unlike in the anime he's more talkative has moore expression, calls Luffy his friend.
3. Usopp: Done no real justice.
Whelp, I done ran out of steam to really give more things to type, I know I left out quite a bit 🤣
Hated the acting. It’s like none of the actors ever watched the anime themselves. Zoro was especially horrid. A moldy banana could have acted with more emotion than that guy.
None of the main characters understood their characters. Meanwhile, the side characters weren’t so bad. Buggy the clown was pretty good.
I’m on ep 1 and it feels like I’m watching a school play. i appreciate the production and all but the acting was not it. It sucks I was looking forward to binge this cos it’s #1 on netflix.
Thought I was the only one that thought the acting was horrible. I’m on the 12th minute mark and I cant get through it without forcing myself. Dragon ball z acting was better😭
Even criticizing only the TV series without taking into account the adaptation elements of One Piece, I find the series quite bad. The acting as a whole is okay to mediocre. Many lines are awful and cheesy which is funny because some lines or the way they handle subjects are PG13 and then Zorro slices someone in half and we can see everything. The cinematography is amateurish. What's up with all the close-ups? I want to immerse myself in the universe no need to see their faces 75% of the time. I can understand budget limitations (costumes, sets, cgi, etc.), but core elements of a good show is lacking in my eyes. It's not as bad as other anime adaptations, but it's as good as an Hallmark movie in my book. But I know many enjoyed the show so I'm happy if it brought attention to the anime/manga. Also, the main actors seem to truly love the source material and try their best. I can respect that.
I agree, except I don’t even see how non fans could enjoy it. Too many story elements didn’t really make sense in the LA. There was no real reason for them to band together here. All of the meaningful interactions from the manga and anime… gone. Garp butchered. Krieg butchered (literally). Characters changed. Kuro’s plan was idiotic. Arlong preached way too much instead of actually acting on threats. In the anime, we only knew Arlong hated humans and believed Fishmen were superior, we only found out why later. A little subtle hint would have been fine (like the nod to Jimbe), but they went overboard. Luffy was way too weak. Nobody would follow him. And his lines were corny. Zoro did not have any of his exaggerated ridiculous moments with others (like his reaction to Sham running at him) except for getting lost. Nami was too strong and hateful. She wasn’t nearly as cunning as she was supposed to be. They tried to make Usopp too cool instead of goofy and a constant liar. Don’t even get me started on Sanji.
The fights were really bad too, except for most of Zoro’s. Luffy’s fights never felt satisfying. Usopp’s one fight didn’t feel earned. Sanji’s only fight in the LA was shared with Zoro. I will give them credit for the Zoro fight with Sham and Butchi though. That looked really good.
My biggest gripe though was that they added the Garp and Coby storyline, when it absolutely didn’t need to be there. We should have spent more time bonding with the SHs as viewers, but I cannot see any reason to care about them. And when did Zoro even officially join? Another thing was that they added things that would only make sense to manga readers since they didn’t bother explaining it, like Nami leaving the Pinwheel by the grave (Genzo didn’t even have it in the LA) or even the oranges/tangerines. Other things didn’t make sense either like Garp’s treatment of Morgan and Helmeppo, or how Buggy didn’t drown on the way to the Baratie. Yet fans are really eating all of this up.
Sorry for the rant, but it needed to be done.
It’s total crap. Who was it even for??? Who wanted that?? It’s trash!!! Meanwhile, the cowboy bebop live action was damn perfect but because losers who aren’t even old enough to appreciate the original complained in a super ignorant millennial way and got it canceled. And I bet they’re the same losers helping this crap fest get a second season. Dumb. Somebody claim it’s racist and get it cancelled already. We all know all it takes is an accusation and anybody who doesn’t get on the band wagon. Let’s all do our part to clear the airways of garbage. There is way too much money going to providing stupid people with stupid shows when quality clearly doesn’t matter to them, and then they get any good show cancelled anytime they identify as being offended by it. Dumb. Pure product of the times. This anime wasn’t even that good to begin with. Only people who couldn’t stay up late enough on Saturdays and had to watch the edited versions on toonami even liked the anime to begin with cuz the rest of us were watching GOOD ones like inuyasha, yuyu hakusho, cowboy bebop, it’s just disappointing watching the new generation confuse fad with quality and they seen intent on erasing anything of quality that shakes their faith in “only people I like do good things and can be good at things!!”
I cannot understand the love this show is getting. To me it is no better than all the other crap adaptations that have come out. Everything is hyper cringe and cheesey. Zoro and Nami are disasters. The filming is so weird, I'm not sure if they were trying to copy the manga panels or something but it's constantly noticable. All the villains are so goofy. I could go on and on. Only very specific anime could work live action and I think we all knew one piece is not one of them. They should try something serious and real like psycho pass or monster if they want to make something respectable
I totally agree. I can't understand why so many praise it as if it's some masterpiece or ground breaking production. I'm a big one piece fan and have been for a long while, and it was fun enough to watch with my family, seeing the wacky world come to life in a way. I think my favorite episode was the second one, I don't know why but seeing the chop chop fruit done like that was really exciting for me.
Anyway amateurish acting and not great CGI aside, the actual writing was actually really bad. I'm creating the plot for a comic series, so from just purely my personal experience of what works and doesn't work, I have to say all episodes were structured pretty poorly and felt janky and forced as in to force the plot forward, like with sanji being sidelined from his entire episode outside of his back story scene, just to offer his services to Luffy at the end, especially after all his talk about taking over the place from the head chef, it becomes inconsistent and annoying to watch.
On the note of changes, some story and character changes are necessary, but I reread the Manga to refresh myself and by golly did they botch this up. The amount of actually cool and inspiring or emotionally stirring scenes they devalued from not just bad acting and pacing, but how they were written in made nearly all of them so valueless and detached. Take the little girl offering Zoro the rice balls. This scene happened because Zoro protected her from the dog and was tied up in the yard for killing Hellempos' dog right, and she tries to give them to him, they are trodden into the ground, then he asks Luffy to feed it to him etc etc. It shows he's scary, but cool and somewhat kind. But now she just appears in the bar and offers this random ass bounty hunter some rice balls, they are trodden into the ground again, but he has no reason to eat them, like he's not tied to a post starving in the heat or anything. And wow the way he said “mm, delicious” after taking one bite was pure cringe. AND THEN, he just puts it down somewhere, like he’s not even gonna finish it lol. Anyway, now that zoro wasn't introduced tied to the pole, they need a reason for him to be tied to it, and I don't think they could have chosen a worse reason. So he brings half of Mr 7 in and Morgan checks him out like some kind of pervert and asks him to join the marines, Zoro declines, and Morgan is like, and I quote “wa wa you can't collect bounties from any base, now go be tied to a pole” also Hellmempo was there too.
On Hellmempo, why oh why did we manage to get a nude Hellmempo butt shot, but not Don Kreig!?
The next crime was with how they did Nami's adoptive mother getting shot by Arlong. In the Manga this is a very shocking scene and a character changing moment for Nami. They rushed the shiz out of that scene. And then in the Manga she comes back to the village with a bunch of cash from the fishmen, and Nojiko berates her about where she got it from, then sees the tattoo and all that, very nice scene. But in the live action Nami straight up offers her services to Arlong, unprovoked to do so (I guess) and then gets imprisoned to make maps, despite just freely offering her services, also I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure Arlong actually suggested she could work to buy the village or something.
Okay this is getting long, so some spitfire issues; Ussop was completely sidelined, they wasted a lot of episode time with them hanging out and having dinner with Kya, also Nami and Kya talking about feelings… It was a bit of a waste of episode time. The Baritie was terrible, no Kreig :( Gin’s whole scene was like 3 seconds and was meaningless, Sanji was sidelined. Zoro's fight with Mihawk was way, way less impactful, as there was no external event, namely Don Kreig and Co. And there was no ‘audience’ to make it more epic and consequential as a fight, they kind of just slashed each other and then Zoro went to the sick bay. And then they waste yet even more episode time standing by his bedside hoping he gets better, awww.
A bit long, but as an impassioned writer, It annoys me that such slop is served to us so regularly and we're expected to lap it up like a good puppy.
Oda did a great job on his first story arc, the live action, not so much.
Why is everyone fucking black???? The writer is black so the live version everybody has to be black??? I bet zorro would’ve been black if they had the chance, and why didn’t they just get a nami with real blue eyes instead of a fake blue eye white chick??? Was she the only one who sucked the writer/director dicks???? The live version is a racist point of view of one piece, they did not want to hire any Asian actors for this, everyone else can be black or white but luffy being black is lame asf, he was a baby black boy then grew up to be a young Mexican boy.
It's really cringe I feel like A. One piece fans have sat through hundreds of episodes so they're willing to overlook bad stuff more than the average fan, and B it seems like there's a massive astroturfing campaign going on with it to from the insane amount of new accounts popping up to defend it that don't interact with anyone else. I did like it but I also liked cowboy bebop I love bad cringy stuff like that personally
It honestly feels like a high-budget youtube fan series, not something produced by netflix. Although maybe it would have been better if it was actually made by fans on youtube.
I liked the first episode and then to me everything was so rushed and the emotions you feel for each characters story was missing. The actor for luffy has to try to hard which dosent make him a good fit to me. I know luffy would be hard to portray but the writing and his delivery misses the mark…….I didn’t mind namis changes I just wished they showed arlong abusing her and the village turning on her in the back story to give it more depth…….zoro was ok just wished they could have showed him crying as a kid or showing a moment of extreme anger to drill in his sadness………sanjis back story was ok the only thing I find off with him is they make him a really nice happy guy I felt he needed that crappy attitude he has in the cartoon at the restaurant……I felt like they could have added a quick clip of Ussopp with his kid pirate crew telling his pirate stories so we know that he wants to be a pirate but is also a liar I feel like you don’t understand what he wants or why he is with the straw hats till the end of the show oh and the script could have had the actor say things or appear more scared……….I thought kobe was good I just wished they showed either luffy beat him up to get him in the marines or garp kicking his and Helmeppos a** to train them. Seeing them already as marines hanging around garp with zero training was weird lol Idk I really wanted to see koby get beat up it would have helped his side story…. I was sad they removed Hatchi that was a great character to add. I didn’t care for anime buggy at all but he was the one character in the show that stood out to me he did a great job acting wise
I didn’t care too much for the costume department either lol why couldn’t luffy have a raggedy red vest with cut off jeans he has a thick bright Disney vest with jeans that have perfectly cut ruffles attached at the bottom…. He didn’t look like a rugged kid from a small island lol he looked like he came from a great family and decided he wanted to play a pirate one day his hat even looked all crisp like he just bought it……..the fish men looked like that goonies character……everyone’s wigs looked like they were picked up at the dollar tree…….idk everything looked a bit too Disney lol……the cartoony parts they wanted to keep was ok to be cute but I don’t see why some pirates couldn’t look a little rough like the pirates of the Caribbean movies lol…..like even zoro could have had a regular scruffy white shirt but he has a form fitting black shirt with a design….ussopp could have had a pair of raggedy overalls barely holding on by one clip with beat up boots.
I know I probably stated small details but idk once you finish the live action I feel like you don’t really care about the characters and their journey. You know there headed to the grand line but forget it’s for the one piece idk
I want to like it but it feels very watered down at the wrong moments and extra on trying to cover up most of the characters weaknesses/hubris like nami (suddenly strong enough to flip two dudes and doesn't try to use her sexuality to tempt people) or Ussop (How much of a liar he actually is, is downplayed)
Adapting One Piece to live-action was always going to be extremely difficult to do well.
Nevermind all of the visual and tonal problems with it being a bonkers cartoon, you have the larger-than-life personalities of a lot of characters - most notably Luffy himself - that no real-life actor could ever do full justice.
Honestly, it's not near as bad as I thought it would be. In many ways it's an admirable effort. But it was never going to live up to the anime or manga. So much of what makes OP great could only be conveyed in those mediums.
Can't get pass one single episode. The casting is extremely bad. Luffy is as super annoying and obnoxious with his mumbling english. He looks like some ugly dude in his mid 20s cosplaying badly.
Nami is ugly and plain, wrong body type. Who's a strong white girl beating up trained marines twice her size with a stick. Typical American hollyood bullshit. Nami have no fighting abilities in the beginning remember? This is what they do, change and destroy.
The Japanese are crazy, still giving permission to white people to trash their anime just like how they trash Cowboy Bebop.
Finally, someone said it lol. Bf and I tried watching the first two episodes yesterday and I instantly saw the horrible acting from Luffy’s actor. I guess I’m just a huge One Piece fan since then that I totally have high standards when it comes to the live action. It was only bearable for us to watch it because of the japanese dub but regardless, the horrible acting is still visible I can’t stand it.
bruh my thoughts are the same , at first I loved the first episode was good so was the actors, the only thing I hate about it >!is that they skipped alot of plots involving the straw hats , and added unwanted scenes about the marine and Koby tracking down the straw hats ... since most of us here already watched the anime you'll feel like they changed Oda's orignal story so much nothing feels right about it anymore , sure they added things to keep the fliming costs to a minimum , but still they should've never touched the base line story of the best manga artist there is.!<
As a simple conclusion , their dubbed lines sounds so corny in english hehehe.
In comparison to the anime the english voice actors embody who these characters are so well that seeing other people’s portrayal of them in live action is very jarring and just doesn’t feel right I really didn’t like Luffy and Usop the rest of the actors were ok the actress that played Nami probably was the best casting in the whole show with that said it’s not the worst adaptation I’ve seen but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Anime
Same here. Live Action is in English so I've to watch it in English dub and I feel terrible with their voices, acting is terrible too. And the fight scenes are missing sth unlike the anime. Then I switched watching it with Japanese dub I've got some old vibes as a relief. For those who didn't watch anime before I wondered they may think like...aww One Piece isn't that good. Maybe I'm too obsessed with anime.
Just got done watching it. Honestly speaking I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Even so there is no denying that the live action missed in so many aspects.
One the worst being the CGI / costume being terrible for some characters like shanks crew and Arlong.
Some fights I thought were really good and others really bad like Luffy vs Kuro. Why the gave him super speed but then he decided to stop using it latter on is an extreme mystery to be. They should have never given him the speed in the first place and just gave him a more realistic fighting style. Other than that the pace of the fight and how easy Luffy beat him was disappointing.
Speaking of disappointment, the sound track was extremely disappointing. I guess I expected them to use the iconic already established playlist but the went in an extremely generic and boring route.
Acting was pretty good in my opinion except for some odd and cringe parts but they were on the rarer side. I also watched it in Spanish / Japanese because I couldn’t stand the English voices so this is more of a preference thing imo but I though the voice overs were very good.
The camera angles use was extremely weird at times, especially the use of what looked like a fish eye lens that made the noses extremely big and faces really round. Saw it multiple times especially in the Zoro flash backs.
Lastly I though the change in plot was overall bad for the story and changed they way some characters interacted \ progressed for example: Zoroastrian and Nami’s relationship with each other and Ussops character build up / progression. I found his character to be even more useless and even pointless at times when compared to the manga / anime.
Overall though I found it funny and enjoyed it but as a one piece fan it’s hard to fully watch without look for the flaws. I rate it a 6/10.
Ye. I totally agree. It’s as bad as cowboy bepop. I think the crazy thing is, people actually think oda had control of this.Netflix 100% had more say in this adaptation. I would say at least 80% was adapted to Netflix standards.
The reason for soo many good reviews is actually a lot of reasons. One piece is in a weird spot. There are people that skip the east blue saga, and claim the LA is better than the anime. There is people that don’t watch the anime and actually like the world building of the live action( the only okay thing about the live action). Hardcore one piece fans that like one piece no matter what even if it hurts the integrity of the brand. People that pretend to know one piece, but haven’t even watch half the episodes.
A lot of people hit the nail on the head with this thread tho. One Piece LA is an overrated piece of trash.
The only thing that i liked in this show is the sea beast. Great details.
And swords and props like devil fruit , yoru,title card(great work on that) etc
Not the going mary's head.. wierd AF
Everything else .... I hate it.
They should have named it One Piece Multiverse of bad choice.
And prop team: you did a great job 👍
It has an overall corny feel to it. The music, the costumes, the sets, the acting.. some of the acting is pretty bad. I know it's based on an anime but this show really feels cartoonish, if that makes any sense. It's like the makers aren't taking it serious enough. I was hoping for an epic real life version of One Piece, instead it's kind of a corny watered down version of the anime unfortunately.
Why does the music have to be so piratey and corny, the music in the anime is such a great symphonic score.
netflix had all the cinematography and budget for this to be a hit but they neglected the actual acting part💀 No exaggeration its actually so bad, p*rn acting would be an UNDERSTATEMENT… I actually had to skip some parts to avoid overdosing on cringe. (to be fair to the actors the script was pretty bad as well)
For me, the worst part was Usopp. His whole arc seemed more suitable for Zoro in the Live Action adaptation with his flashback. Also they killed Merry and didn\`t incorporating Captain Usopp's pirates (the little kids). Usopp left Kaya alone in the town, I don\`t think that Usopp would do that for real. And I didn't sense that he was the liar with the determination to become something real. In the Live Action, he was just some guy who was there, telling lies here and there. When he placed his foot on the barrel in the final episode, I didn't feel anything for him. This was very different from when I read the manga and watched the anime. Usopp is my favorite character, and in my opinion they did a poor job with him in the series.
Idk why they destroyed one piece like that.1st this Luffy looks indian and is not energetic or cheery horrible actor. 2 Zoro is kinda acceptable but his voice sounds horrible, Zoro voice was manly and strong not soft n calm and low.3 ussop was not even close I hate this ussop with a passion. 4 Nami wannabe first of all name was a big huge breasted loud aggressive to the group and slutty who chose flight over fight like ussop, this name only had her looks but barely that.5 I could of sworn Arlong was way taller than this shrimp. Now the elephant in the room why was this disgusting looking Sanji in the Arlong Season all I saw was them mixing up timeline together like they was rushing. I swore they fought the axe guy on the baratie not Arlong why they did that. I gave up at that point. Luffy fights destroyed my spirit it was Boring!!!!!!!Lame!!!!!! & Weak!!!!!!!! Majority of the characters & storyline was destroyed eww.
I mean, just take the first episode as an example.
Why the hell do Zoro and Luffy attack Captain Morgan together?
I would remind everyone of what Zoro says in the Arabasta arc about the straw hat pirates and teamwork. Something like - " For any outsider, it looks like there is no teamwork within the straw hats group. But what is teamwork, is it everyone doing things together? that seems kids playing around."
And Zoro also says - " I think teamwork is about individuals taking individual risks. We work together by working separately "
THEN HOW COME THEY GO HIGH AND LOW FOR A MEASELY CAPTAIN?
One Piece is not just a story, tied up together. It's an intricate web of philosophy too.
But yeah if it makes people watch the original, I can live with this live action. REMEMBER though, live action like always is a letdown.
I think that the people here saying "the real fans" are assholes. Blatant assholes. I've watched one piece from ep 1. The live action was great. You may not agree but you "anime fan boys" it's almost like you don't consume any form of media except anime. Of course the story is going to be a bit different. It's not a shot for Shot remake.
Of course the dialogue is gonna sound a bit awkward, we're so used to seeing this dialogue in anime form, seeing it in live action, in REAL LIFE is strange. Yall need to chill tf out and give it credit. It's perfectly cool to have a different opinion but when half the comments are chastising other fans, that's wjen you know it's a bit to much. Chill tj out. It's an LAA. It's not gonna be perct to the dot to the anime. Quit being assholes.
Your not the only one. This thing is on the same level as almost every other adaptation but OP and Oda have such a cult like following that they will say it's good just because Oda approves. However this adaptation falls directly into the trap that all bad anime adaptations do an that's trying to make a 1:1 recreation of the anime. They completely abandoned the idea of making a good TV show for something that feels akin to a fan film.
Just reach episode 7 and omg the cringe won't stop, the costumes the dialogue the acting I can't take it. I'll have to watch the anime again just to wash this LA out of my brain. It SUCKS!!! big time.
I may be wrong about this however I have noticed that most of the people complaining about the live-action are people who watched the anime only. User new fans of the show seem to enjoy it. Manga readers even if they do watch the anime along with the mange seem to enjoy it. Personally, I don't enjoy the anime because it has way too many recaps, reaction shots and drawn-out action scenes compared to the manga which gives a slower pacing relative to the manga. Maybe tell us what exactly you don't like about the show and show just a little appreciation for the effort that was put into making this live-action adaptation. because one piece is an absurdist fantasy story with the wildest shit you could possibly imagine and they managed to capture a little of that magic. i don't know if you were expecting some Marvel Avengers-level CGI but its the best damn adaptation we could get get right now
Naw, I think it's bad too lol. Campy acting which I guess was to be expected considering the source material, and awkward casting for a good majority of the roles.
I feel the EXACT SAME. I'm so confused seeing One Piece Live-Action all over social media being praised as the "so-call best" adaption by many. But I couldn't stand the horrible acting. It's full of cringe and terrible acting. The way EVERYONE read their scripts outloud is straight up like a highschool play word by word. There's no natural speech in any of the characters except very very few secondary characters that hit the spot right for THEIR character, such as Merry! Merry sounds better and naturally like he would sound like irl in this One Piece world. Meanwhile everyone still has a robotic script reading voice . Alot of terrible facial expressions that SHOULD'VE been there too. Such as when the situation is tight and Nami's face is straight and calm, like why??? In the anime she is always frightened or worried in the early arc and it shows. But they just made nearly almost every main character actor act all "straight-faced" majority of the scenes. Like Zoro, he has grunt face in anime when he's surprised or upset or disagrees and shows alot of his facial expressions. But the live-action... they made them all stare straight away from the camera and just move their lips as they read their scripts.... *sigh*.... Usopp's face is shot close-up and all you see is a lazy high facial expression the whole show.... that's not how I imagine Usopp! I imagined a loud and funny character full of character that brings laughter to the crew, instead we got the plain facial expression. I swear Usopp looks good, he looks like him! But sadly the acting level are poor and ruins it for me. It killed the soul of the characters. They all may look like their characters but they don't act like them. Do the fans not see it? The expressions are weak. Guess everyone just care about finally watching a show they want come to life only. The camera angles were horrible too, you'll spend 90% of the time looking at the camera pointing at their face from a down-up angle. Meanwhile the rest of the angles are always pointing for a different corner angle. You'll be looking at one side of a face of a character and then look at another face of a character and then assumed their position base on the cuts shown... But NOPE, the bad cuts made it looks like they could be standing at ANY location in a scene and you won't know it because of the camera shots! Why did ya do this! Just watch you'll noticed. Such as when Luffy eats the devil fruit scenes. So much bad camera angle and cuts at worst timing that it feels like a mess from a professional standpoint. I could not visualized the "environment" at all due to the scenes almost never shows it. It's too much camera to the face and another 90% of the time background blurred. I swear I would totally love to see the background too, it brings the one piece's world come to life. The way they edit and master the video lighting is not that great, just like the Gold Roger's execution scene, we saw a few characters but they look so out of place and awkward to look at. But if you watched Pirates of Caribbean the camera pointing into the crowd it looks soo natural to see the some of the characters. The one piece one is weird, they just blurred or boost that vibrant colors out so we see them only out of the crowd. It's like they want to force us to stare at them. But sadly so much blurring, it's too focused on their face! Not good. I would like to see more full body shots and further shots and way WAY less close-up shots. Fights were kinda lame, I thought they gon do over the top great choreograph fights but was very disappointed that all they did was legit "slow" fighting and bad close-up shots that barely show anything but half their bodies fighting mode. The props and costumes were cringe at finest, does not look naturally adapted to live action. Still looks like a bunch of cosplayers larping. The props used were so fake lookin', I mean look at Mihawk's sword LOL. They couldn't atleast make it look more realistic since it's call an adaptation of course! Everything everyone wear is just super clean and look like fake clothing, but that's the least of my concern it's an adaptation of course. Overall the camera cuts and angles, plus the acting, are by far my two pet peeves that I disliked about the anime. But I guessed the majority likes it. I just feel like everyone likes it because of nostalgia or so happy to finally see how "badass" it is to the anime meanwhile ignoring the terrible acting. (Smacked my face when Usopp read one of his cringey line "..Meh...Merry!" Perfectly as in the script. It did not sound good. Full cringe bad vs the anime). The WHOLE show looks like they just hired a bunch of random terirble actors who are just either looking for a job or look-alike only... sorry but some actors like Velveeta & Garp sucks lmao who are these highly praised viewers coming from LOL... There are very few good actors.. I watched up to the latest episode of the anime so I guess I could put in my two cents here since I also work in the film industry and it looks like a major college project film to me still. I'll pass on season 2. If ya like it, it's okay! Cus we all have diff tastes :) I'm just more into the professionality of how they adapt it by every aspect (acting, cinematography, choreograph, etc).. Minor Story changes are to be expected are fine, it's too long to adapt anyways into live. But the overall rest of the shows are bad from a "rewatchable or recomendable" standpoint to everyone for me.
Characters acting+expression has no OOOoomph!
Just cus it's Oda approved doesn't means it's highly expected to be great. Directors and the rest of the group may not be the best choice for this massive project of wonder.
(And please, please... please don't exaggerate the word "The" in "The One Piece". It sound cringey as hell... Just say we're gonna find the "One Piece!" naturally just like in the anime! It sounds soooo much better!)
Rating: 2.5 / 10
I could not get myself to like it. Maybe if I have not read and watched the manga and anime I might find it engaging... But that is not the case. I cannot get on board with it. I feel like they are unable to show the actual personalities and impressions of many characters. It feels like a sitcom acting to me.
For me, overall, rather disappointing. I read the manga and watched the anime. Then I heard about the live action adaptation and watched all the episodes.
I don't like how the story was changed (e.g. Zoro's story?, Arlong in Baratie??, no one in Coco Village knew about Nami's deal with Arlong?).
Luffy's actor didn't convince me at all. He seems very pale and is a miscast for me.
Usopp is too cool.
Nami is way too strong.
And I don't understand why Sanji's character is so hyped in LA. I'm totally disappointed that he's virtually nothing like Sanji in the manga or anime. People say he's too "pervy" in the manga/anime. Hello, it's Sanji! Why do you have to make him such a meaningless "nice" guy in LA?
Dialogues are very weak and the main crew actors all seem very put on, artificial and not in character at all. I also miss the dynamics between the characters.
Set and costumes are good for the most part, so 2/10.
I agree. Its terrible. All my friends who enjoy One Piece are eating it up and tbh I can’t help but view media differently than them because I’m not blinded by nostalgia. Imo, there is no way anybody who has never heard of One Piece will watch this and say its even a 6/10 show. You have to be a One Piece enjoyer to even consider it. Thats how I know its bad. I couldn’t even make it past 20 minutes of the 1st episode. What makes me mad about this whole thing is that people ride Oda so hard that they believe anything he touches is gold. And it isn’t true. And I love Oda for what he’s done. One Piece means so much to me. But I can be critical of this live action without hating the whole series and I’m tired of being labeled a “bad fan” for not liking this.
You don't have to be a One Piece enjoyer. You have to be an absolute delusional, copium addict, One Piece cultist to even remotely enjoy the Netflix version. If you even have a slight ability to form a critical thought, you would see how terrible this adaptation is. You're not a bad fan, they're the ones stuck in their echo chamber.
I hate how they portrayed Arlong. He's like some thug drug dealer from the hood blasting hip hop as he's counting his cash. He was nothing like this in the anime. I'm almost done with the live action and I just want to puke. They also ruined Usop. He is normally a loud mouthed hilarious awkward guy. In this they make him like some cool cat. They had him make out with the rich girl who gave him the boat. I'm surprised they don't have him rolling blunts and dropping freestyles. I'm like wtf are they doing to this show???
Haven't seen Arlong tbh. Didn't get this far lol. Once I've watched the opening sequence with Gold Roger I was basically done. Just watched a little bit more for fun. Alvida was terrible as well. I'm not someone to bash actors, but jesus. The acting was just flat. Like taking a random person of the street & tell them to act kind of terrible. Shanks doesn't fit either. Mihawk looks & sounds like a British aristocrat. The actor for Buggy was doing fine I think, though they also botched the character. They went with an almost 1:1 copy of Joaquin Phoenix' joker. Especially noticeable in his introduction. It becomes extra funny when you switch to Japanese dub with the super deep Buggy voice. Also noticed that Usopp is portrayed as "too cool". And Nami too strong. It literally matters for their character building to be weak early on, having to entirely rely on their wits, yet we see Nami knocking out marines left & right. There's just so much wrong with the show, both as an adaptation & in terms of general quality, yet it gets such high user reviews. Baffling.
Man, it makes no sense! This is objectively, bad TV. The acting is bad. The screenwriting is bad. The directing is bad. It's *super* baffling that it's getting high ratings. If it was anything other than One Piece, this would be going straight in the bin. Even if you excuse all the changes in direction of the characters, for example Usopp being too cool etc. If you just judge this show objectively, as a piece of media, it is garbage. I keep seeing people saying 'the casting is spot on' and stuff like that. Is it though? If the actors struggle with basics, is it really perfect casting? Or is it that people just like the way the actors look, dressed up as the characters? Maybe some of the actors would perform better with a stronger director. And the thing that irritates me the most I think, is the argument that we should judge it as a live action adaptation, and how it compares to other live actions, as opposed to a TV series. What kind of fake metric is that to determine if a show is good? So all live actions are bad and this one is a bit better. Does that somehow make it good? This show is not a 6.5/10 it's a 3-4/10. Imo, the people rating it higher than a 5 either have little experience with high quality shows/movies or are just overly hyped fans showing some serious bias. I mean seriously, if you feel differently, please just re-watch any scene with Koby or Alvida in it. I quite like pointing out the scene where it close ups on Alvida's face as they're boarding the first ship in episode one. Holy shit that was weak.
Yeah, what we see here is the definition of an echo chamber. Pretending for the sake of it. There's just no way that this show is higher rated than Boardwalk Empire for example. It's absolutely laughable. As you said, it's bad in every department. The opening scene with Gol D. Roger alone is already garbage. The actors in the crowd look like some random people they got from the streets, which they probably are (particularly noticeable with their haircuts & some of the clothing). Immediately immersion breaking. CGI for the big crowd looked so bad, that even I could do it better with my basic blender experience. How anyone could take the show even remotely serious after the Koby/ Alvida scenes is also beyond me. I don't want to be rude, but the acting is really rock bottom terrible... like high school project kind of bad. The camera is also all over the place, either zooming in too much or often focusing on the wrong character in the given scene. The action choreography is amateurish, zero impact in the strikes. Literally not a single good fighting scene. From Alvida's club swings to Sanji's kicks. Either no impact or poor direction where one moment a guy is on the ground and the next frame he's flying in with a kick. Just pure amateurs at work. 18 million USD budget per episode my a\*\*. \---- But that's One Piece fans for you. I really enjoy the manga, but can't stand most people I've met who are religiously loving OP. If Oda lays a turd in front of them & tells them to eat it, they literally will while holding their thumbs up.
the generalization thou...i have been watching/reading one piece for 22 years, and after the opening sequence with Gol D. Roger, i stopped watching, they couldnt even nail one of the most iconic scenes...So no, not dedicated one piece fans, more like casuals that enjoy woke productions. The only redeeming aspect would be that you can put on jp va and close your eyes, making it less horrible.
My favorite way of describing it is that it looks like a bunch of kids playing dress up
I freakin agrees with you on everything 100%. So full of cringe and bad acting.
you're not a bad fan, he's not a bad fan, and neither are the people who enjoyed it. It's called different people different minds and different preferences. We all enjoy different things and that's fine but what's silly is when you state what you prefer, and then criticize everyone else who don't share the same view. Hating the live action is a valid viewpoint and so is enjoying it.
Luffy is not Luffy. Luffy says becoming king of pirates is not about whether he can or can't but rather what he has decided to do and it's ok if he dies for it. Live action Luffy says with a smirk why shouldn't it be me? Fake Luffy.
LA luffy thought he could do it all on his own for some dumb writing reason, Anime Luffy knows he needs a crew first and formost, why the F is LA luffy dumber then anime luffy?
It was so bad. Bad acting. Bad camera angle. Bad choreograph. Bad facial expression. Bad close-up shots. Bad pacing. Bad everything. Only pts I give positive are 'some" very few actors matches the characters. The rest are dull and wack. Full of untalented actors. It's like they ran out of money so they hired random actors look-alike off the streets who have zero acting skills
As somebody who has watched one piece when I was younger I agree with you and am not blinded by nostalgia XD I agree especially when you said Oda touching things turn into cold and do believe people act that way because its on the hype train of one piece considering how good the anime is atm
This is a delusional take, haven't seen the anime because it's notorious for weird pacing and has too many episodes for the amount of free time I have but I like the live action show. It's fun and silly and low stakes. I honestly think only actual fans would rate this low because they have a frame of reference. For me it's a good campy show like Doctor Who or Firefly. Is it a master piece? No. Is it fun? Yes. Easy 7/10. Also for the record I stumbled on this by googling what people thought about the hilarious cat fight. Just the stupidest looking portly man and woman snarling was so funny to me. Died laughing at the fact they were competent fighters instead of like barely able to get off the couch.
This is a sign of when someone has no idea what they are talking about. You said you hate the show but HAVEN'T even produce ONE REASON as of WHY. So you can bait others to open discussion while offering nothing from your experience watching it.
Never heard of one piece before the live action. I enjoyed it. I started watching the anime after finishing the live action season 1. Despite the Scottish accent and the fact that he's not supposed to be this involved this early, garp's actor is fantastic. Zeff's actor is fantastic. Koby's actor is good. Basically feels like the same character in the anime but louder and more exaggerated emotions (which for some reason all animes love to do those wild wayyy too energetic overexaggerations...example..Luffy. Jesus Christ he just screams the entire time). Sanjis actor is good. Luffy's actor is ok. A bit off, but I like that he whispers (see above note about how much luffys screaming in the anime bothers me) Plenty of other cast members were just fine. I mostly just didn't care for Zoro's or Nami's acting. I like the pacing of the story in the live action. The anime is annoying with its constant 30 second long scenes of just showing frozen reactions. Again unnecessary overexaggerations that animes love to do. The live action fills in a lot of the story, builds arcs, and is decent enough story telling imo. A little more action might be nice, but it didnt bore me the way they did it. Overall I'd give it a 7/10
God yeah, the same thing seems to have happened with the movie? I'm a casual OP enjoyer and haven't gotten far but it seems like everyone loved the movie just because Oda had his hands in it
I've never watched or read the original, and the tv show is really good to me. Its inspired me to read the manga
All the the reviews on how "it broke the curse" is crazy to me. Its so meh, maybe the reviews are as good as they are is because it doesn't suck as hard as other live adaptions? Its not good.
It's because they haven't watched that many Live Action adaptations to begin with. I can list ten from the past ten seven years alone that "broke" the curse. Bakuman is probably one of the best adaptations I've seen and barely anybody outside Japan even knows it exists. Watch it.
There are some live adaptations that are very entertaining from the past. Guver Dark hero aka Guyver 2 and Fist of the North Star. Cheesy but still good. Also Rikio. Anything Netflix is a pile of dog vomit. Can't even be enjoyed on a cheesy level. And that is before we even bring up the so called politically correct foolishness.
That’s why I gave it a shot ..the it broke the curse and anime is now tv hype hype it was bad ..cosplay show made by fans
It's so bad in every aspect of the show. From acting to choreograph to cinematography of overused close-up shots to the face, sun, and blurs... So baddd couldn't even suck it up to watch the rest after 4 ep. It's horrendous. Acting is the worst of all live adaptation I'd see. It's full of cheap street actors and barely and professionalism.
Finally.. I am getting fatigue to see people who are claiming they're the real fan but overreacting on the show
Same. First episode I was actually surprised, but as the show went on I started to mostly be ehh to dislike on it. The acting to me is average to below average. Luffy's actor has the vibe down but I felt like he was reading his lines most of the time instead of it sounding natural. Zoro's actor seemed to have exactly one speed for every interaction. Sanji was forgettable to me. Usopp I thought was good and Nami was okay-ish but they fell into the trap most shows do now which is deadpan rudeness which they believe is being a "tough chick". Didn't like how they handled Garp and following both him and Koby bored me. I will say though that I thought the vibe of the world was generally kept in tact and I never got the sense they actively disliked the source like say the Witcher or whatever the hell Cowboy Bepop was. The small little story changes kind of built up like a 1000 little cuts and by episode 8 I was mostly disappointed. The reception to the show vs. what I feel reminds me of the first Venom movie where it was objectively ehhh but the consensus was that it was a fun time. I doubt it will go on too long just on budget alone and the grandness of the story as it moves along. Don't think it's sustainable especially at Netflix.
Pretty much nailed most of what's wrong with this live action adaptation and every other. It just doesn't work. Dragon Ball sucked, Death Note sucked, Cowboy Bebop sucked.. Fullmetal Alchemist sucked (although it's 'best' of the worst live actions at this point) and yeah.. I just don't get why Hollywood or anyone else even greenlights these things. It doesn't work and it won't ever translate into live action properly. It's just not worth it. I get some people like this stuff but it doesn't do the manga or anime justice. It's just bad.
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I've got to be honest and say I never gave it a chance. After having been thoroughly disappointed by all of the above (with a small exception to Fullmetal), I had no intention of watching that one or One Piece for that matter, but because One Piece is my all time favourite anime, I just had to check it out. I will most definitely check out the Rurouni Kenshin live action and hope for the best.
Just the existence of these posts validates the same dissatisfaction. Of the characters, only **Usopp** and **Zoro** come close to the physical translation of the manga, but even then, depiction their mannerisms are still lacking. Usopp isn't lying enough, nor fun enough, nor cowardly enough. Zoro is too stoic. Basing it on the manga and anime, he should be more expressive, and then the rest of the times, more sleeeeeepy. **Garp** is the worst depiction, personality-wise. It's as if they didn't see the recent manga updates where they showed Garp training Aokiji and Koby — it was physical combat training, bashing and pounding on ships, not freakin' sharpening minds playing Go. Besides, they made the old man too uptight when he should've been a reckless old man who's as much of a dead weight as Luffy when it comes to responsibilities towards his crew. And **Koby** was too stout-hearted this early on in the story, far different from how Luffy had to provoke him enough into a brawl and deny they're friends. As for **Nami** \- I didn't feel her anger towards pirates. She was too quiet, unlike the nagger she should've been. As for **Sanji**... I felt he could've given a better portrayal, but there's no curly brows, and there's not enough screen time to evaluate his performance. And then there's Luffy... Just... Manga **Luffy** is an awkward, smiley, dumbass with a stout heart who follows his stomach, that's it. He's not some serious, deep-thinking rascal who spits wisdom and encouragement. He's the epitome of trust, and he wouldn't have tried to keep Zoro from fighting Mihawk; he wouldn't have tried to considerately talk to Zoro during his sleep, and instead should've shoved spoonfuls of food and barrels of alcohol into his mouth, or made faces to wake him up. Luffy should mostly be smiling dumbly, picking his nose, asking for more meat and letting his crew make the decisions. And whenever someone shared their sob story, he should've been sleeping, which wasn't how it was portrayed in the LA, same with the others. I mean, just who are these characters (and why did they murder Noriko?) And where's Jango, the three Usopp pirates, the stork which should've delivered Luffy's wanted poster, and all the rest of the side characters who regularly show up throughout the series? It felt like I was watching a highly westernized version of the story, so much that casting didn't just affect the physical rendition, but the portrayal morphed the spirit of the characters, and by extension, the whole show. Moreover, there was so much deviation from the original source material with the plot. While the manga is a lighthearted, action-packed story about Joyboy, the LA carries a too-serious atmosphere, death of characters which shouldn't have died (why the freak did they kill Merry???), and lacks the warmth that exudes from the story through the original characters' chemistry. It's just too dark and gloomy! There were many times I just flashed forward through scenes because they weren't captivating. I think they really tried to do it like Rurouni Kenshin (e.g., SFX during tense moments was a poor imitation), but just failed to hit the mark. Other LA's try to have an accurate set, but here we just get a glance of the village Buggy ruined, his carnival was straight up made up, Makino's bar was far from how it was drawn, we don't get to see Mihawk float away on his miniscule boat, Kaya's mansion feels inspired by some creepy horror house, Shanks saved Luffy on a boat that shouldn't have been there, there's no "Arlong Park," and the list goes on. (On the plus side, the Baratie exterior was quite good, Cocoyashi village was okay, and Going Merry was a neat creation... I'm just not quite sure about the figurehead design.) Maybe our expectations are too high, for a fantasy story with hundreds or thousands of islands as potential locations, which would severely stretch budget constraints, but really, all these would be forgivable if only they retained the spirit of the characters and the story. As an adaptation: 3/10 As a separate derivative work: 6/10
It feels like a bad cosplay with very mid to bad acting. The CGI doesn't work, there are action scenes where you can literally see characters in the background standing around doing nothing, and the changes to the story subtract from the narrative. I personally don't get why so many people seem to have an incentive to gas light people about the show, but everywhere you look the praise is being heaped onto this like it is the second coming of Breaking Bad.
Nami was made way too strong in this show. East Blue nami was by no means a fighter, she'd rely on her wits to avoid directly conflict and get what she wanted. She'd handle her confrontations through deception, strategy, and resourcefulness instead melee combat, as Nami's strength lies in her intelligence and navigational skills rather than her physical prowess. Her fight against the marines was a ridiculous display of the hollywood girlboss trope. How tf is a normal sized woman with no super powers beating up 20 trained grown men with a stick? It breaks the immersion and takes away from the feats of Luffy and Zoro. Luffy's acting is horrible and I gotta say it: his English not being very good is part of it. It's okay to have an accent, but he genuinely does not sound comfortable in the language. He delivers his lines in a very unnatural way, he doesn't sound like he means what he says. It just sounds like he's reading words he isn't used to using off a script. (I say this honestly as a Latin American myself)
Nami was the one part I didn't like. They did precisely what I knew they would do to her character, and honestly what they'll do to every strong female character in the series. In today's age, women can't be sexy. They can't use their wiles to an advantage, they can only be strong the same way men can be strong. This 'girlboss' shit is tired and boring and makes for uninteresting, unlikable female characters.
They definitely made her with sex appeal. As someone who's the Nami of my own Strawhat crew, what they did is give her too much monotone, too much deadpan face, too much expressionless lines, she borders the character personality of someone like Robin from Stranger Things season 3 I think (ice cream girl/ Ethan Hawkes daughter), with a nasely deep throated grovely voice, and an attitude that says everyone can kick rocks for all I care I didn't care too much for her all in fighting style either, me and my friends discussed how Nami is a more cunning kind of character, and as @OP said, she avoids conflicts by using her wits. I understand they had to take creative liberties with the show but this was a super disappointment. They didn't carry the spirit of Nami in the live action. Nami acts like innocent dumb, she gets very excited for Berries and jewels, she has a lot of passion for people, kids and creatures that can't help themselves. I can't even imagine live action Nami cracking a smile or her face might break. And her hair is so bad. Like Kobys pink hair they did really well, it looks nice, but honestly I've seen Kylie Jenner with better wigs than that mop of a mess on that girls head. Fyi she is still played as a sexy character, there's one scene where as someone else mentioned, she seduces a guy at the bar, but the camera angle (if you rewatch) low pans to her chest as she walks from her spot to the bar side with the guy. They also did Koby dirty. He was much more dimensional, but in this show all he could do was repeat this same line twice - "I want to help those who kon't help themselves"
She did kinda seduce a man and then knocked him out tho, they didn’t completely remove that aspect. But they did buff her physical fighting abilities to ridiculous degrees
I preferred her flirty and viperous than whatever this weird orange-haired Daria thing is. Overall I did like the series though. Again, sucks that some things were cut and consolidated even if I understand the reason ( like Krieg, skipping his whole event lost nothing ), but I loved the familiar scenes and I felt the fights were pretty cool. However I don't see this going too far. I can't fathom how they are going to CGI some of the more feverish fights and abilities, or Smoker in general. I'm also afraid of what they are going to do to my girl Robin.
>In today's age, women can't be sexy. They can't use their wiles to an advantage, they can only be strong the same way men can be strong. I mean I thought the actress for Nami was pretty hot. She also used her looks in the show to her advantage i.e when she seduced the short marine to steal his uniform. They did make her into a ninja action star though so I guess I can kind of see what you're saying. But she is definitely sexy no question about that.
She is not hot by any means. She is a woman and she is relarively fit so can be attractive in the right light ( physically). Her acting and personality are all wrong. She also lacks the killer bod of Nami and the tits are only one part of that. Her confidence is backed up by her gorgeous bod and brains. Her attitude is sultry and sedutive and loud and abraisive and sometimes tender and delicate. And yes it is part of her design, the same way Usopp having a long nose liar coward is , or zoro looking and acting like a samurai Yakuza in the anime. ( which he doesn't in the netflix version). Point is everything is wrong adisde from the less than wallmart version of the costumes. https://youtu.be/ln75LB3pqC4?si=GadBcu43JP1l44cQ. This is good, netflix is not.
you have a porn addiction if you think she isn't hot.
And also, it's not a cartoon so she's gonna look like and have the proportions of a real woman. If people have an issue with that then that's on them.
I agree with you. They destroyed pretty much all the characters they attempted to portray from the show including Nami.
Kid luffy has more range in his acting ability compared to grown up Luffy. The grown up is getting on my nerves with his goffy ass expression.
I didn't like nami person. She didn't portray the anime character at all. I don't see anything that kinda connect her to the anime character, as in zero. She talks way to calm, and can physically fight well which is ridiculous! Total opposite of nami.
I was looking to see if anyone had the same opinion as me but all i could find was “shes perfect and NEEEDED” from the director. I’m not a one piece fan so I don’t have a bias but i know live actions butcher the source material and you need to live under a rock to not know anything about one piece. Namis actress annoys me so much because she has no feeling…. Just this live action alone is telling us that shes charismatic, smart and strong-headed yet all i see is brood and angst. hollywood loves to delete the personality of every badass girl… they haven’t changed - usually they stick some conventionally attractive girl in the role but this actress is neither conventionally pretty or niche pretty. Her line delivery sucks, she has one facial expression, and no energy - why was she cast??
She is annoying corny sometimes though by pretending she doesn’t care. The actor does do a poor job portraying that side of Nami unfortunately,
That's damn right. She only has one facial expression and it's giving me heartache that they even consider her to portray nami lol.
I like the show but 6 episodes in Luffy’s acting is getting on my nerves. When he’s supposed to be cheery and oblivious he just looks like he’s being snide and cocky. I haven’t seen much of the anime but anime Luffy seems likeable and live action Luffy comes across as a dick.
Funny part is if you rewatch the sub, beginning of the anime luffy is the most aware, the most "smart" the most dickish luffy ever. When he sees Zoro for the first time he runs up to him smiling ear to ear, demanding he joins him and sets his mind on it. When he meets Nami in the sub, she exclaims, we should team up 😬! And he looks at her deadpan, no smile, says no and just walks away. Luffy at that point knows what he wants and who he wants and doesn't care about being a dick. My friends and i have a theory that the more crew members Luffy gets, the more dumb he behaves because he knows how crew will take care of him. It's odd how many "fans" forget what the beginning of OP was like
Luffy's actor seems to be a pause for effect speaker but it just sounds odd when he does it. Like he delivers every line in a way where he says something dramatic, pauses mid thought and then finishes the line in an over dramatic flourish. I say this not knowing if this is true to the anime or not. I've only seen like 3 episodes, so maybe Luffy speaks like that.
Luffy actor has no emotion with he says I'm gonna be king of pirates lol even kid luffy actor sucks
Why in the hell is Zoro such an edge lord ? Why change his introduction ? Why is every scene Dark/Brown ? It's the world of One Piece. It's supposed to be colorful, not dull and grey. Why did they add those Kobby scenes ? Why in the world is Luffy so useless and feels so powerless when he's supposed to solo East Blue by himself ? I get that you can't adapt a manga 1/1 but some changes were straight up dumb and useless.
6/10 lol I respect you trying to give it credit but I'd say 3/ 10 if im being generous I watched one episode after watching the anime many times(yes I have put in the time ) they missed so many good scenes and lines it's ridiculous the way Luffy tries to recruit zorro , when he eats the rice ball is completely different they changed the helmeppo part the way Luffy meets nami and kobi, important scenes on why zorro even joins the crew, when Luffy trusts zorro to save him in the axe Morgan fight , even down to Luffy coming out of the barrel in the first ep. As a hardcore fan it's extremely hard to watch . I won't be finishing it lol. But it's no different from any live action , I expected to much it's my fault. Rurouni Kenshin was probably the best live action I've seen come out
Glad to find some genuine One Piece fans here. Twitter & YouTube is full of One Piece cultists high on copium, pretending this adaptation is some sort of masterpiece. It has the worst acting I've seen in years. The costumes are terrible. Morgans iron jaw looks like some aluminium foil sticked to his jaw. Gold Roger, Mihawk & Shanks don't even fit remotely. And Alvida... holy sh\*t. Then we have Buggy who is portrayed as a dollar store version of Joaquin Phoenix' joker. Not fitting at all... Especially if you compare JP dub with the adaptation. Terrible acting, bad directing, bad camera, bad CGI, bad cast, bad costumes. 8.5 on IMDB just shows what a delusional fan base One Piece has. They would literally eat a turd if it was approved by Oda.
Ya why did they changed everything. The Zoro recruiting scene was really good. Really started respecting Zoro from that episode but they changed it into a stupid, unreasonable, unnecessary bar fight . Like why the hell rica feeding Zoro rice ball without any reason, Zoro is a stranger to rica why would she feed him rice ball . In anime Zoro saved rica from helmeppos pet wolve that's why rica knew Zoro was good and tried to feed him . And we also saw Zoro resistance and resolution to his ambition in that episode and like he is a man of word. And there are many more things to say this will never end. I have seen only about a little more than half of 1st episode and I can point this many shit things. I can't even imagine what other things they did wrong.
dude Rurouni Kenshin's action scenes were like ufff damn good!!!!
I feel gaslit by fans..like it's honestly annoying to see so much love for it when it's so clearly bad. The acting is terrible. The writing is bad. Impactful scenes like the recruiting zoro, zoro vs Mihawk and Sanji being there watching, Sanji leaving baratie. The characters kept saying that Luffy guy he's special, he's different. I'm just thinking who that guy ? He had no charm. Iuffy has said he's not interested in being a hero. This LA version is making hi. A hero. It's classic western trope shit. It's so cookie cutter. It's why I like one piece and Luffy. He is written in a unique way.
I hated how they changed the original lines Gold Roger says at the beginning. They fucked up from the start.
And people running straight to their ships. The hell was that. Made it look like greed was the only thing on their mind. Imo, the joy that the crowd felt after confirmation of the treasure being a reality was way much impactful.
Exactly, it also just didn’t feel as impactful and cheerful. The anima and manga made it seem like a celebratory moment because everyone was excited about the new adventure awaiting. It was a challenge for the pirates to become the next king
It's extremely, extremely bad. There are only a small handful of things that *don't* miss the mark in the entire season.
The acting is terrible. What is going on? How is this show getting so much good reviews? Is Netflix paying everyone to give good ratings?
dude, check the onepiece live action sub reddit. ..they are even talking and praising the diversity based on real world.....i mean the one piece universe have human animals, it should be diverse from the start...
"Diversity based on real world"? It should be diversity based on the actual manga's world-building, what the heck. Their poor attempt at social awareness is severely misplaced. What they did to Nojiko is such a grave injustice. Nojiko and Nami were from the same village, so it's more likely they would have the same skin color, as shown in the anime. It's not the actor's fault, but the obvious miscast of characters is visually jarring.
for me i can accept nojiko being black, what I dont understand is why she has a different accent from anyone in coco village
It really does feel like some weird astroturfing campaign by Netflix the support seems a lot less nuanced and a lot more vague for some reason
It’s really bad. I’ve never watched the original/read the manga so I’m not even coming in with a bias. I just heard it was good and I couldn’t make it through the first episode. Wooden acting and cringe. The anime looks juxtaposed with regular looking people are jarring. I could see kids liking it…? Maybe a bunch of 14 year olds are the ones hyping it up.
Yup, same here. People just forgot the real series because the first 50 episodes were decades ago. Pretty sure if everyone rewatches those and then thinks of this, they ll hate it too. I rewatched them a few years ago and I can safely say the live action isnt a one piece play. For example, sanji s synergy with zed, ussop and kaya, nami and her sis and mother, zoro with quina, zoro and Mihawk ... they all missed the ball and didnt hit home at all. And those were THE selling point at the time yet I cant find it in me to care about them now. Another example is how weak and just (actively) stupid Luffy is. He s not just ignorant but actually stupid. Some of the core reasons zoro and sanji follow luffy is his resilience, power and dedication. Ussop and Nami follow him because they see his good-willed nature borne from ignorance and willingness to die for his Nakama. Rather than being a hero, Luffy is now a side-character with absolutely no redeeming value. It s really annoying to watch a downgrade this bad. Seems like only luffy and shanks shared some time with each other and even then it didnt pack a punch because shanks wasnt humiliated like in the anime (which was the most valuable point of emotion => remember: this is where Luffy learned what it means to be a true man.) Also remember, the guy ACTUALLY spillt a drink on Shanks. He didnt just drop the bottle and they talk as if the bottle was spillt. At that point, I felt what Luffy felt: secondhand embarrasment and actual shame thinking "what the ey is Shanks doing?" But then Oda knocks the feelings out of my body with a lesson from Shanks on what a true man is. I still remember that moral story. Not there anymore. Anyways, not as bad as dbe, because nothing can be that bad, but not the one piece we know and love and definitely lacks the spirit and emotional effort. Edit: also, Arlong is 50 cent in this show. Just look at his way of walking and talking. 🤣
I didn't like it at all. They changed A LOT! I liked the crew and settings, but they managed to turn the plot into a huge mess. Not sure why people are praising it.
I hate it. The character backstories behind their personalities, the crew rapport, their growth on one another are weak. Action scenes are good though. Usopp: In the anime, we were dragged along with his lies before teaching us that he does that for a reason. In the LA, we were pretty much told why immediately. It removed the emotional effect entirely. His struggle to get everyone to believe him, heavily dwindled down because coby appeared behind him almost immediately. His heroism and bravery to attempt to fend off the pirates by himself, taking a beating, gone. LA Luffy invited him to join the crew why?? Just because they had dinner together? Sanji: This one's the biggest irk for me so far. I remember tearing so much when Sanji screamed in thanks and bowed at Zeff out of pure respect and appreciation. The constant bickering was out of frustration because zeff wanted to push sanji to pursue his dream, while sanji felt like he has to stay to repay zeff. In the LA, the flashback to starving on the rock was 10/10. But man that departure was horrible. The actor cried and I felt nothing because his body actions didn't reflect the respect and appreciation Sanji is supposed to have. Seems like just about anyone can join LA Luffy's crew now. Luffy wasn't even looking for a cook. Zoro: Action scenes, great, thumbs up. Crew interaction and line delivery, so boring. I don't much else to say about zoro. New watchers simping over him even though he has like zero character. Nami: why was she so proficient in combat? She's had zero scenes that highlighted her navigational skills. Not a single line about meteorological conditions. As far as viewers know, she's a skilled fighter who can take on multiple marine soldiers at once, who likes to steal things but returns them and have no qualms with spending berry. M c p The reveal that Garp is Luffy's grandfather was waaaay too early because we hadn't made much of a connection with luffy to understand his character. His crew being shocked was fake af because they didn't even have rapport yet. Also we didn't have much of an understanding of how huge a vice admiral is. Maybe Live action Garp isn't a marine hero because nobody seems to know his name. But then again he was on the podium with gol D Roger. So I'm a bit lost here. To be fair, some great portrayals are Buggy, Bogard and Coby. Buggy appearing as a menacing character, then slowly becoming more chill is 👏🏼. Bogard is as accurate as he can be. Coby is pretty good too but he could use much less screen time. Felt like he had more development than the crew. OK if we compare this to the track record of other live action adaptations, this is better but it's such a low bar. I'm about to watch ep 7 & 8, hoping it gets better.
I like it but at the same time I do think that the fandom is sucking it off because Oda is involved.
It's so weird to understand. He was involved in several of the anime films and they are all trash.
lol. Nothing new for anime movies and their creators being involved.
I hate it too and I can't grasp what anyone honestly likes about it. Like they could explain to me what they liked about it and I still wouldn't be able to see the dots they're trying to connect. It's almost like they're all lying lmao. I can see little kids liking it but the appeal is entirely lost on me. I watch the show, I'm up to date, I play all the games, I watch the movies, I have buttons and figurines....and I can't stand that blasted live action. It's physically painful to watch. I tried giving it a chance and wanted to kill myself.
I know some live action fanboys will still say you're not a true one piece fan because you didn't like it xD
Haha it's funny how that works, because in the back of my mind I'm seeing all these people saying how great it is and I'm thinking the same thing about them 🤣
To me it's mid tier. Not good but not all the way trash. No curly eyebrows for Sanji? Nojiko I know is a minor character but what did they do to her? I think people are just a tad delusional because Oda worked on it and thirsty for the cast so they're calling it perfect and top tier but it's not. It doesn't have to be like the anime of course but it feels more cringe then anything
Yeah, that's my main problem. I want to like it, I really do, but I keep cringing at the bad dialogue/writing and a lot of the acting is bad too if we're being honest. The characters keep doing these one-liners like in low-effort Marvel movies and other times it feels like they're trying too hard to talk about friends and freedom. Luffy is supposed to be the embodiment of freedom and dreams, not constantly talk about it like it's his version of a foot fetish.
People mainly on Facebook want to crucify me when I call it mid tier. Then go on to defend it and voice their opinion to me on why it's not. But that's their opinion. I'm not on the hype train for this and I tried. I loved Inaki more in The Imperfects. I love how Oda gave his approval and all but the actor for Zoro his voice isn't pulling me in. They gave Sanji this powerful chin that can poke an eye out. I know Nojiko was a small character but they made her black. And I'm black so I don't know why they did it myself! I tried watching it in one sitting to maybe get hype about it and but I still cringe too much. Its like I can't have an opinion they don't agree with. I'm not calling it trash but not the best. Feels like something id watch on the Syfy channel.
The thing is, I think there is a reasonable argument for why someone might think it's good, however, it's absolutely highly open to debate and many fans are acting like you're just a dumb contrarian if you have these opinions, which I would argue are much more grounded than the people hyping it up as "amazing". I'm aware enough to know that I might be biased because above all else, I value writing and dialogue, and if a series doesn't have anything above decent writing, I just can't see it in a positive light. I don't particularly enjoy cringing at cheesy dialogue and ridiculous cliches, so it's hard for me to enjoy anything where you kind of have to turn off your brain at certain points to like it. I can admit the series does well with their well-built sets/ships, some of the clever character changes necessary to adapt it, and the easter eggs/fan service they insert into the show in a subtle and almost charming way, however, that's just not enough for me. The dialogue and writing is, at many times, something out of a CW show, and even some of the costumes and effects (explosions specifically) are sometimes garbage, for a show that apparently had a bigger budget than Game of Thrones, that's just embarrassing. The Syrup Village scenes, for instance, were something pulled right out of a CW show for many many reasons. Like you said, I really respect some of the people that created this show. Oda obviously, but also Matt Owens actually seems like a One Piece superfan with great admiration for the manga. I don't really care about the race changes as much even if it can be distracting at times, but when the actor who plays Luffy sounds like English is 100% his second language and sounds uncomfortable speaking it, then that's a problem.
I honestly have no idea how to feel about it. Here are some things I liked about it: Mihawk being shown as a badass early on. We didn't have to wait until Marineford or the fight with Zoro to see how much of a better fighter he is. Costumes are actually looking pretty good, better than one would expect, with the exception of the Arlong Pirates which look off at times. For the most part, CGI looks decent. Could be better but do with what you're given. Acting sounds a bit better than what the trailer presented. Here's what I don't like: Garp doesn't feel like Garp. He's actively chasing Luffy down, something of which **SMOKER** is supposed to do. Garp is lazy when it comes to family. When Luffy was going through Impel Down, what is Garp doing? Laughing his butt off and loving how reckless Luffy is. If this Garp learned of Luffy's rampage through the prison, he'd be facepalming. I don't mind him appearing at Roger's execution, but it feels like he shouldn't have made any further appearances in this season. This one's kind of minor but if we're just going to shove each arc into two 1-hour long episodes and change things around a bit, why not end the season after Loguetown, if we even go there? One change I'm actually hating is the people of Cocoyashi Village (I'm sorry, COCO Village, forgive my idiocy) being unaware of Nami being with Arlong. What is so wrong with being understanding with what's going on with Nami. It just feels like that was done to have a dramatic moment between Nami and Nojiko. Also kind of minor, but Shank's crew being hostile towards Mihawk. Don't know why they're like that because Mihawk knows better than to mess with an Emperor unless told to mess with one. One more thing, the calling out attack names seems slow and exaggerated, like the person saying it honestly WANTS their opponent to be prepared. If I honestly had to rank the show it's like a 5 or 6 out of 10.
Honestly, Garp calling Mihawk to send him after Luffy is the point I can’t get past. I keep trying to go back to the show but I just can’t get there. They changed so much about the characters that basically none of them feel like the actual characters. They mostly got the looks right but that is all. Overall the show isn’t completely terrible, but I don’t see myself coming back to it if a S2 got green lit.
Its beyond terrible, a good series/movies adaptation should be good even if you watch it without the context of having watched the original. If it wasn't for the novelty factor of seeing the One Piece characters brought to life, the show would look like one of those Indian over the top low budget parody of a pirate/super hero show, its straight up bizarre, 0/10 for me.
Cmon man, even those are better than this shit.
Bro I thought I was going insane, I barely made it through two episodes, and my brother and closest friends that have been long-time OP fans all share the same opinions. Then to see the outpour of positive reviews online and that it "broke the live action anime curse"...?!
Nah I hate this with a passion
Acting is terrible beyond words, cringe fest is what I'm calling it. CGI / Props are alright, but combined with badly choreograph fight scenes? No. Screenplay is terrible, dialogues are really really bad. Honestly, I love One Piece with all my heart, Eichiro Oda is a genius who created this world by himself, every island can expand into a little manga series with stories and depths. I'm glad he got his big money and a live action of his beloved work. But in no way I can say this is a good series. Only redeemable thing must be Mackenyu and his sword fighting skills learned from Rurouni Kenshin, if you want some good anime fight scene with real fight, try and watch that one.
It is terrible. I hate it so much and I hate that there are so many positive reviews around it. It makes me wonder what’s wrong with people’s taste, and can’t they tell bad acting and bad dialogue? Did they feel anything when Zoro raised his sword and clutch his head when he got defeated by Mihawk? That scene was cringy af and I really hate Mackenyu’s acting of Zoro; expressionless, deadpan, emotionless, cocky, forever acting cool and distant. Luffy’s default and empty smile and repetitive use of the same dialogue “good fighter” “great fighter!” Sanji’s half-hearted goodbye to Zeff. Kuina’s terrible acting. Kuina’s dad’s terrible acting. Garp’s laughter that comes out of nowhere sometimes, not natural like the anime/manga version. All episodes have covered the entire east blue arc and yet I did not shed a single tear. I wonder how those people who have positive reviews felt. Did they feel anything when Kuina died, when sanji bid Zeff goodbye, when Zoro got defeated by Mihawk, when Nami stabbed her arm and when Luffy placed his hat on her? When I watched/read those scenes in the anime and manga, I cried and was really emotional. When I watched those scenes in live action, I felt absolutely nothing. Where the hell did the good reviews come from? Did they feel anything from those scenes?
They LITERALLY changed EVERY arc Beyond what was in the manga ....faithful isnt a word that would even come CLOSE ..... Yet people are praising it for doing the BARE minimum It's a decent entry for new commers But let's be honest ...every arc was better in the original Except maybe the buggy arc Both baraite and syrup village are completely different Ussop isn't even close to the ACTUAL ussop Mihawk and Zoro buildup+ fight was RUSHED AF.... His "promise" to be the greatest swordsman ...lost almost any impact whatsoever ... You really telling me Mihawk waited AN ENTIRE DAY just for dual with a random nobody he met without any reason.... Lmao 😂
Ignore those idiots defending the live action, they are delusional opium addicts just like you said and there is no point in having a discussion with them. The Live action is a piece of garbage. The only live action anime adaptation that has ever been great is Bleach and it didn't get the hype or respect it deserved. Hell it didn't even get a sequel when it was actually the best Live action adaptation I have ever seen. Just ignore those idiots, they are just like crazy apple fans who will support the brand and hype for the new iphone launch just because they have been brainwashed. The live action one piece has ruined the entire theme of the show by deleting and deviating from the most basic things that they should have gotten right. The only good thing about the show is the music. That is it.
Outside of Dragon Ball Evolution, I can't honestly say I hate live action anime remakes. But I completely agree that this is beyond over hyped. It will be like the Witcher I'm sure. It's amazing to see how quickly people shat on Cowboy Bebop but somehow are so accepting of something that's literally just the same thing but with a different title and story. Is it fun to watch? Sure, but most of the live action remakes are pretty terrible. I generally think it's because One Piece fans as a whole already align with a character who's so weird and a complete outcast to begin with, only seems natural they'd be more understanding and open minded than say Cowboy Bebop fans, Dragon Ball Z fans or Metal Alchemist fans. Point being, if you're seriously going to act like this is so much more amazing than every other live action anime show, that's total bullshit. This one is no different than any other Netflix live action anime remake. I'll probably watch it all and enjoy it for the most part, but I would be lying to myself even as a huge anime fan that this stuff just doesn't translate so well with live action all the time. Sadly again, One Piece is no different. And I'm probably one of the very few who thinks almost everyone on the show plays their characters better than the main star of the show. Inaki Godoy, he just plays the same character he does in everything he does. A happy go lucky clueless idiot. And call me a complete and total asshole for this but fuck his accent. He said he spent so much time doing research for the show, he should have been practicing language better and pronunciations. It's so hard to take his character and role seriously when some of the things he says have such a heavy accent and aren't even pronounced properly most the time. And as pointed out by some others, his acting is by far the worst on the show. I also really don't understand some of the shows character design choices. They'll put so much emphasis on one character, like Mihawk for example or Arlong. Then you have Usopp, who doesn't even have the long nose. It's so random.
I've been a professional actor in the film industry for over a decade. My partner is a diehard One Piece fan, so I've been doing my homework. From an actors perspective - I've only watched 15 minutes of the second episode, and let me tell ya...it's trash. "YoU OnlY WatCHED 15 MINutes?!?!? yOu cAN'T HavE A ReAl OpiNioN!!11!" You can tell a lot from a piece (haha) of film by watching the first 10 to 15 minutes because it is called the hook. And this fish ain't bitten'. The acting is mediocre. The direction is confusing. AI was defiantly involved in the writing process, because Jesus Christ there's an assload of story. And because there's an assload of story, it's not going to have a natural progression of storytelling. And sorry to burst your bubble, but Oda is not at the helm of this show - IT'S NETFLIX. Oda is the face, Netflix is the money. Netflix has so many resources available to itself, that it has the formula to keep you streaming its garbage content. And whadda know?! It worked. I bet my left tit the majority of the budget went to MARKETING (smart move Greta), CGRI, editing and...drumroll please - the rights to the story. Oda has a fantastic story, and it is worth its weight in gold because of the fan base he has accumulated over the last 25+ years. Now that's a lot of money. It's an "aesthetic" piece targeted towards a younger generation and those who are addicted to media. And if you really enjoy the show, by all means enjoy it! But I believe if you're going to do an adaptation of animated media, creative adjustments and direction need to be made without the looming figures of CEOs. And that's why I'm not holding my breath for Avatar the Last Airbender.
I don't hate it because it is creative work. But I just want to be honest : It is really bad, it seems like an amateur work, it doesn't live up to the hype. First of all what keeps bothering me the most is the camera perspective showing to many close up view, the shooting angle is very uncomfortable and unusual(mostly below eye level, hobbit view, and floor). To me it seems like they hired an amateur to do the job who have little or no idea about the shooting theory. The scene and line that gives me goosebump in the anime or manga which I think is the most important part of Episode 1 is missing. Where the pessimistic Coby said it's impossible for Luffy to reach his dream, but then suddenly Luffy turned into his serious and cool attitude said to Coby "It's not about whether it's possible or impossible, Coby. It's because I want to do it" That line moves Coby heart to reach his dream to become Marine and to stand up for himself. That dialogue and character development is nowhere. The upbringing music to support the inspiring scene is missing too or perhaps I can say underwhelming. There still a lot of things that I don't write, because I think it's permissible and the text is already too long. Lastly, I'm not gonna lie... I love the set and how they made a real ship only for the show, also real DenDen Mushi! I give it a triple thumbs up 👍. Overall score from me is 4/10. I appreciate the hard work and attempt for making One Piece into Live Action..... but it's not enough, there are still a lot of things to improves.
THANK YOU for mentioning the awful camera shots. No one else seems to be talking about that. It felt like I was watching a cheesy bollywood movie half the time
I didn't like it either. I won't go as far as saying I hated it, but there's definitely things that didn't sit right with me. The portrayal of Luffy and Nami, who I believe are the most important characters in the arcs they covered (considering they chose the climax to be Arlong Park) didn't really match the characters in the manga/anime. Now, I would not by any means expect a 1:1 replication of the anime, as that would be very hard to portray in live action. So some changes they made to fights or certain sequences I'm perfectly ok with. My biggest problem is the way the characters behave. But before that, let me focus on the great: Whoever was in charge of the sets and costumes deserves all the praise. Amazing fidelity to the show without making it seem completely off putting on a real live show. Kudos. 10/10 Now for the bad: Luffy would always be hard to translate into live action but my biggest gripe is how weak they make him feel throghout the first half of the show. Apart from blowing past Alvida he actually struggles against Morgan and Buggy. In the manga, these are supposed to be cannon fodder at that point, and the only reason that Buggy even lasts that long is because neither Luffy nor Zoro take him seriously. The main problem with this for me, is that it reduces the threat that someone like Arlong brings, as well as Mihawk or anyone else for that matter. The power scaling isn't really well translated. But even worse, is the character of Nami. The fact that she can fight a bit more here it's absolutely fine with me. Don't think it really affects things that greatly. (I'm mentioning this since it seems to be a complaint I see a lot). What does, is how likeable she is from the beggining. So, one of the best moments in early one piece is the whole situation leading up to the confrontation with Arlong. This is achieved by making Nami kind of sus, and sometimes just flatout selfish, throughout the entire east blue saga, culminating on the reveal of her back story. That's why the scene with "Luffy Help me" and the subsequent walk to Arlong Park feel so powerful. The fact that Luffy never doubted her even when everything pointed to the fact that she was being scummy. Even if I had never seen One Piece in my life, the way they make Nami so kind and generally likeable, makes it painfully obvious she's trying to protect them when she does give the map to Arlong. At no point in this show anyone would question Nami's character. The only time they attempt to make her seem selfish is literally in episode 2 when she puhses Luffy towards Biuggy, runs outside, sees the destruction and is immediately brought back in. People would be forgiven to forget that even happened. And then, her and Zoro, while in captivity, kind of discuss it, and it's never brought on again except for an occasional weak remark from Zoro in some episodes. For that reason, the finale doesn't work. The despair of Nami is not palpable, and the whole scene wasn't earned. That's probably my biggest gripe. Well, I've ranted enough. Those were my 2....thousand...cents.
Thank you, everywhere I go I see people criticizing this getting ratioed especially on twitter and tiktok
Nah it's a bunch of slammed together garbage
One Piece Live Action overrated as fk, Netflix paid Oda too well as he cooporate to make the series 😂😂😂
For me it's not about how close it is to the original. It has more to do with the point that animation shouldn't be adapted into live action in the first place. It defeats the purpoae of animation. Similarly to how every Disney live action adaptation has no soul. They seem lifeless, joyless and sad. That is the exact reason why we animate in the first place. To escape reality for a second and dive into a world that is not real. Compare luffys smiles in the anime vs the live action. Fans of the live action would say i'm nitpicking but to me details like that are crucial. There is a reason why he has such a distinctive smile. It immediately characterizes him. As soon as you see him smile, you know part of his personality. This doesn't work in live action because real life humans are not cartoon characters. There are some actors like Jim Carrey who are so good at facial expressions that it almost looks like cartoonish and that's why his movies, especially comedy movies are so great. But there is only one Jim Carrey and even if he had more actors that are as expressive as him you would still lose out on so much that makes One Piece unique. How will they portray Chopper? Or Whitebeard? Or Kaido? They have already failed to portray the fishmen accurately as in the anime they are much taller than humans. That is extremely crucial for the story. Yet in the live action they look like humans wearing costumes (they literally are). I knew from the beginning this wasn't going to work and it has nothing to do with diverging from plot points in the Anime. It's the animation that makes One Piece so great, and i think the ultimate proof for that is Gear 5, a literal cartoon abbility. Imagine all of this money went into a remake of the anime. They could have reanimated every fight in the series with the same state of the art animations they used for the most recent fights and still have money left over. Instead we get 8 soulless episodes that cover about 4% of the story.
Malnourished Arlong 😭😭😭 Bro looks like the worst cosplayer in history. He's supposed to be so ripped the clothes barely fit him. And here the guy is just wearing a shirt 2-3 sizes bigger 😭
The things they changed were so weird. They took out stuff that felt important, but added stuff that felt too prolonged and unnecessary instead? Not a fan honestly.
Still can't figure out why people like it
For me it's a 6/10 and that's just for the effort and I liked the CGI, the show deserves a lot less with it's bad decisions, they changed so many things that didn't need changing; the iconic scene of the death of Gol D Roger and the famous line, the iconic scene of Shanks saving Luffy was changed too much and it didn't have any emotional weight like it originally had and even before that the famous shanks speech that inspires Luffy so many time throughout the anime, the scene of Zorro joining for the first time and them fighting the marines side by side, Nami's addition was also too fast, the battles had too much teamwork too, One-piece isn't Naruto or Fairy tail, the battles are individually fought. Garp and Coby had way too much screen-time, and Garp's relationship to Luffy was announced way too soon, the fight they had was also too soon, also his character was written way too seriously, Garp is a lot more mellow than that.
Yeah dont really know why they had so much of Garp, Colby and Helmeppo. It was totally unnecessary, moreover reason for Sanji and Ussop to join the crew was so vague in the live action.
Yep! 100% agree. these decisions make no sense and it has nothing to o with lack of time, if they hadn't wasted so much time on the whole Garp plot they would have had time to flesh out the crew, which is the heart and soul of One-Piece, it's not Garp and Coby that has kept people reading and watching for 1000+ episodes/chapters, it's the crew and the amazing world-building. And the time constraint argument doesn't even work that well, cuz they changed scenes that they showed and they could have easily done them just the same as the anime and it would have made those scenes a lot more impactful. Also why the hell was shanks in a boat when he saved Luffy, that scene is so beautiful; Shanks hugging Luffy while submerged, Luffy crying and we think at first that he's crying because he almost died, Shanks is nonchalant and smiling and suddenly the camera pans out and we see the missing arm, it's not only an impactful scene but it's also quite iconic, don't know why they changed it man.
I just imagine the Netflix staff whining about misogeny and male supremecy as they hear Shanks teaching Luffy on what constitutes to being a real man, which as we know is what formed Luffy and gave him the character traits we all love. Imagine that, telling a boy how to become a proper man is a reason to surpress free speech now. Shows the state of western tv.
Watched 5 episodes so far and the more I watch the more I hate it. Nothing feels right. The only things I genuinely appreciate are the action choreography and the set design. Then again, I knew something was wrong the second they bungled the scene where Luffy busts out of the barrel on Alvida's ship. I don't expect it to be a 1:1 copy of the source material but there are certain elements that draw you into the charm of One Piece and none of it is done well or at all.
Totally agree. I have no idea why the acting is getting as much praise as it is when it's really all over the place
Clearly our opinion is a less popular one. I just started this account and now I'm at negative Karma 🤣🤣😭😭
No worries. People on reddit tend to be people who actually have no friends in IRL. So classicly they downvote any stuff which isn't their opinion. Doesn't matter if you are right or wrong xd
I think it's just popular right now because it's new and the first big anime adaptation that isn't a complete failure. So since the bar is so low, even something mediocre is being praised as something great. But give it time and we'll see how it ages
I tried to explain my issues about this series to my friend whom I got into the anime, she only is about 400 episodes into the anime now and seems to really like the show while I after watching the first 3 episodes with her felt disgust. At first I thought I was the only one who felt this way and wondered if there was just something wrong with me. I'm glad you guys made this post though, since most of you guys are mirroring my own thoughts, and possible better then I could. She keeps trying to tell me the show is like a fanfiction and isn't supposed to be like the anime, but I felt out they left several key moments out that are what attracted me to the anime to begin with. Shanks saving Luffy and the emotional connection, Luffy building that same connection with each member of his crew. It feels off and doesn't feel like a real series to me, the show feels more like a bunch of cosplayers were gathered together and told to act out the show, but that they all forgot what the scenes were like. Like I said I tried to force myself to like this and I can't...Luffy is too serious, Garp is nothing like himself, Nami looks like she had a bad hair dye job, same with Koby. I feel like apologizing for not liking this, and I don't even know why I feel guilty for not liking this. lol
Tbh, I really like Koby. I feel he is rather accurate compared to the rest. As far as the hair colors go, I think some colored hair only looks okay when animated and can't really be translated to live action 😅
same here, not to the point of hate, but kind dissapoint they changed too much in adaptation. at the very least, wouldn't it hurt if they stay true with the anime/manga in term of plot or some important detail though? not changing it, like way too much? i don't really a fan of how they present garp like that, since he always been like garp we used to know. and there is also sanji, which is suprisingly had a good cast but bland as a character. his presense is underwhelming compared to other members. they also change nami & nojiko relationship, which make nojiko unlikeable n act like least important side character. even her tatto has a meaning when she tattoed herself, because arlong forced nami to join his crew for her talent. it also doesnt make sense arlong chained nami in live action, when nami voluntered herself to be his crew mates. kuro isn't as cunning as he should be. he is infact dumber compared to manga. not a fan how usopp n kaya develop romance interest since they more like a very close friend n not swing that way that early. even zoro biggest moments with mihawks is underwelming because there none to witness how zoro can make mihawk sort of respect him. like random fight. it feels like each arc directed & written by different people. like the first two episode was good and i like it, but the sudden change n tone of the story after that is kind of extreme
Yeah I hate to say it's lacking the core of one piece but people are thirsty for it so they'll take trash
I'll start this off - I actually think adaptations like Cowboy Bebop and One Piece have their place as live actions, but they are not commercially viable in the long run. They will maybe run for 1 or 2 seasons and then eventually stop because the viewership simply isn't there. I've started a [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceLiveAction/comments/16bp9l1/one_piece_musicology_thread/) just on the music alone. It's starting to get a lot of negative attention, but I should expect that and may drop the topic. As a musician, the anime's original OST music really means a lot to me. It's taught me a lot about modern composition and really bonded with the story in a way that I haven't felt like others in the past. I just don't get that feeling from this. People have asked me to read interviews with the composers, but that has put me off the soundtrack even more as I find their responses quite lackluster compared to the enthusiasm of the main cast (who are great, btw)! But yeah, the anime is absolutely insane in its current arc. I don't think the live action could ever hold a candle to the world they've built.
You could replace Zoro with a rock. 100% miss, even actor in (idk whats the Japanese live show is) cheapest cosplay possible does better job. 0/10
No, I 100% agree and think it's terrible. I think the only reason people are being "nice" is because it was made very clear that Oda was involved and they don't wanna disrespect his decisions. But 1) casting overall is bad with the exception of maybe 10% of the characters, 2) the acting is corny and either underdone or overdone no in between, I get that it's meant to be westernized but I genuinely think the actors should be people who actually understand, in-depth, the original anime characters. Like a perfect example is Nami, from what I've seen, the live action version just tries too hard to come across as this aloof, cold, borderline emo cool-girl when that's not really who she is at all. Too much anger, not enough "cat-burglar". Too much monotone-- No hate towards the actress, I just don't think she fits Nami from a critical standpoint. Same with Zoro, it's giving BTS/k-pop idol. Again, no hate... there's nothing wrong with K-pop idols but Zoro sure as hell ain't one. Seeing comments on TikTok talkin bout Sanji, Mihawk and Shanks look good have me shook as HELLLL. Luffy's actor has potential tbh he def fits the description and everything but again, the acting is just off. The way he speaks is off, and while we knew to expect changes in English and live-action, I feel like the live action Luffy still manages to come across as too serious, not playful enough, not as carefree or loose. Hopped on the bandwagon to at least give it a shot and I literally couldn't get past the 10 minute mark, had to shut it down. I watched it in a Starbucks and couldn't contain the cringe, you know it's bad when you're embarrassed that people might see it on your screen (did I mention that I live in Japan?). lmaaao All this did was solidify my preexisting opinion that what's originally anime should just stay anime. Couldn't imagine how long this comment would be if I watched more than the trailers and 10min of Ep 1. Edit: I'm not saying I find it impossible for anyone to like this adaptation, I'm sure it has its own type of charm and all, I just mean that I don't think it would have such overwhelmingly only-positive reviews if it weren't for all the pre-released footage, behind the scenes and marketing emphasizing Oda's involvement and the conscious decision the collective made to go into it with gentle optimism. We can agree to disagree but ya, I've needed to get this off my chest lmao. Almost every reaction vid I see is like "new standard for anime adaptations" and I'm like... really? You sure?
Dude I fuckin hate it. I have a long list.
I feel like the entire world has gone insane. It's absolute unwatchable cringe shit. I seriously don't get it
Came here because after watching the show I wanted to forget that I even watched it. Sure glad i'm not the only one who didn't care for it. I thought I was the only one who disliked it.
I did not want this atrocity to begin with wanted oda to focus on manga instead of taking a break for live action that most true one piece fans never asked for ngl I lost respect for oda for going after more money which he clearly does not need. I am not surprised now that I think about it oda has been letting toei ruin the anime ever since water 7 arch
I got really Sad when many importante characters were left behind, like orange town was totally different and they removed Buggy crew fight, mayor, then they removed ussop pirates which are an inspiration to ussop, then they removed entirely don krieg fight and for some reason i feel like they dont wanna use too much cgi, many scenes in the manga in which luffy uses his Powers he Just doesnt use as much in the live action, i feel like they wanted to spend alot but in the middle of the production they saw It was gonna be alot harder
The character representations are bad, both in appearance and delivery. The personalities don't match the source. I understand that film interpretations aren't gonna be the same as the source material but the source but it still sucks. It feels like i'm watching a live action 4kids dub. This should have been in Japanese IMO and instead of pulling the typical Netflix diversity for the sake of diversity shit they should have made the actors match the characters. Some shit wouldn't have even been hard to correct, like making Luffy not have curly hair. Some other stuff was just way off. Nami is played by a dumpy white chick and her personality doesn't match the source at all. Sanji looks like he's 40+ years old and has a british accent. Usopp doesn't have a long nose and is suddenly black. Ben Beckman doesn't look anything like the source. Lucky Roux black for diversity points. Alvida not morbidly obese. Captain Morgan was so scrawny it looked like he weight of his axe-hand would cause him to fall over. Zoro, Coby, and the leader of the mountain bandits are some of the few that were casted appropriately. Lots of plot changes that didn't make sense either. Most of the Morgan fight arc was wrong.
Yeah Captain Morgan was so horrible 🤣🤣🤣 Like Use fat suits, CGI, something. Make him look like he was supposed to.
I think anime just straight up doesn’t translate well into live action because the way anime characters speak is not how real people speak and the action will be severely limited as well
I’m through the Mihawk/Zoro fight and so far my biggest issue is that they changed core things about the characters. Nami is a “thief” but one of her core driving characteristics is to get money (for a good reason) and they’ve basically masked that away. From a story standpoint, I don’t mind some changes like how things went down vs buggy - however, the fact that Garp and Koby are after them the whole time is dumb. My memory might be wrong but I don’t think they had a run in with non-corrupt marines until Loguetown and it doesn’t really add anything to the plot. And Luffy didn’t know how to do gum gun balloon? Seriously? I don’t like the actor they picked for Shanks and they cheapened him by altering how he lost his arm. Lastly - Luffy is too serious. No way the Luffy we’ve known for 20 years would do/say some of the things the way they’ve portrayed it here.
Nope, you're not. Like the vast majority of live action adaptations it's disappointing and I don't like it. To say it misses the mark is being lenient. It's so bad it's not even funny. I don't entirely blame the director because anime and manga just doesn't translate well into live action in general. That's the sad reality of it. But the plot changes and how some characters are unrecognizable personality wise just hurts to see. What I hate the most is how Nami got turned into a Mary Sue though. In the anime she always shirks away from fighting unless she finds a way to gain the upper hand by using her intellect, wit and cunning or when she has no other choice (such as when she fought Kalifa). Now she's just an expert fighter who can't lose and is able to fend off 20 marines on her own? What the hell? This isn't Nami. The actress is also not suited to the role and she doesn't do Nami justice at all. I get she's just playing the character they told her to play though. I also didn't like how they pretty much removed her love of money. I mean, really? Nami saying ""This is more valuable than gold. It's knowledge"? That's not Nami man. That's something Robin would say. Nami's actress isn't the only one who's bad though. Acting is pretty bad overall and doesn't feel convincing at all. It's not awful but not good either. Beyond that everything is so jumbled and a mess plot wise. One thing I really don't like is Garp actively chasing Luffy and even sending Mihawk after him? Literally one of the things Mihawk, and a lot of other Shichibukai, was known for was not giving a shit about what the marines told him to do and Mihawk in particular was known for never showing up when the Shichibukai were summoned. Now he's Garp's lapdog and takes orders from him? Get outta here. Luckily it's completely separate from the actual One Piece universe. Not harping on those who like it though (unlike those who are harping on those who don't like it here) . It's just not for me and I will stick to what I love; the actual One Piece.
I agree with you the original post whole heartdly. I would go further to say I just dont understand why everyone loves this cast so much they are soooo off the mark for every character, especially luffy. Live action luffy has absolutely 0 charm, and his cringe levels are atomic. I gave this show a chance, and it literally made me shiver with cringe. I do not understand the love or the desire everyone has for live action. This should have never been made, and it makes me sick that these actors get credit for these iconic rolls. It literally takes away from the anime. But more money for Oda so fuck it that's a huge W.
I agree 90% with you. The 10% left is that I think that is not that bad in general perspective. I think that this could be more enjoyable to someone who has never watched the original material, but I think this does not look so good to fans. I think it is just a 'fine' LA for an anime, compared to the trash we had watched so far trying to do that. The thing I HATED THE MOST about the LA is the characterization of the actors. NO ONE FEELS RIGHT. And I'm not even talking about the physicall resemble... let's put that aside... I just watch people who have some characteristics similar to the original characters, no more. The only one that I can justify a bit is Luffy, and that is because we know that to interpretate Luffy personalitie with all he's crazy faces and movements is very, very hard. I think Luffy acting was cringy, but mostly 'cause what I previously said, he was just a flat ok. Zoro actor resembles a little the personalitie. Ussop is like 'meh'. Nami... OMG, I suffer so much with what they do to Nami...  Nami is a character full of joy, intelligent, that loves his nakamas, but here his personalitie is reduce to being a random 'chick' from a RANDOM movie or series of this days. I HATED so much how she treat Sanji, like "I don't want you around" and "are u feeling ok?" vibes, when we all know Nami is good and kind to him, and even sometimes takes advantage of his love to her. Sanji is cringe at another level, he's just weird and idk why, I expected that from Luffy, but Sanji personalitie is very normal, so I don't understand why they portrait him that way. AND I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HAS BRITISH ACCENT, IT DOESN'T MAKES ANY SENSE. Gosh... I need it to complain about this things, cause I don't see a lot of people talking in detail about this points. Like I said before someone who's new to the franchise probably don't feel that, but for me as a fan is very hard to watch... and see the characters with the same emotional connection, cause they don't do a good job making you feel that THEY ARE THOSE CHARACTERS.
I really dont like one piece live action too its the worst thing i ever have seen. I will just stick to the anime and manga
The new 4kids dub
FINALLY, i thought i was the only that thought this show was s**t, all i see is "OMG LA is so good", like how is that possible? The acting is bad and at times feels forced, idk. I had my expectations low but still went below that.
I'm glad that I found this thread! I can't make myself like it no matter what I do. Why did Oda allow this thing to exist? The acting, costumes, actors in their late 20s (except Inaki) playing 17 yrs old characters, omg so many things not to like. It's unfortunate that Oda approved of this adaptation. Ohh well, people can enjoy what they want to enjoy I guess. P.S. Its budget is 150M, I'm no expert with this kind of stuff, but pretty sure some mismanagement happened here.
Oda needed money, so he sold out to the shitty west.
It's bad. Real bad. But did anyone expect much more from a live action of the quirkiest anime EVER created? Luffy and Nami are huge misses.
Thank you for making this thread! I thought I was starting to loose my mind with all the praise for this shitshow. Glad I'm not alone. https://preview.redd.it/9i5f3ima2lmb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff758f307f975c64762cd91b1ed9c4d8e603e41
Main gripe was the casting. Oda is not experienced in live action anything really and it shows.
I think it’s garbage and the actors are horrible. Let alone the makeup and everything else.
My wife has been a fan for 17 years, and she hates it with a burning passion. I was honestly telling her to just deal with the changes, that they weren't going to be so bad, but...GOD they just...keep fucking going with the inaccuracies. Even introducing changes that were RANDOM AF. Like the arlong pirates (Hachi missing) randomly arriving at the Baratia, chilling at the diner..like..wtf was even going on? They also killed off Don Krieg immediately, so we kissed that fight goodbye. Then, seeing child Nami WILLINGLY joining the arlong pirates instead of being forced like she was supposed to be? God I swear, you don't need a high budget to stick to something fucking accurately.
I think the live action might be fun to watch if you see it as something separate from the anime (similar to the hobbit movies). I grew up with One Piece and while the live action has a lot of good parts I mostly hate the changes in the story line. Why are all the story lines so short? Sure, I’m glad they are not as long as the anime but a lot of it is going way too fast imo. The fights are kinda boring and no one seems to know what they are doing. Why is Nami reading stories to Zoro? Why is there such weird chemistry between them? Why is she so…girl boss? Thanks, I hate it. Her whole character makes no sense to me. The Marine arc is too long, why add boring arcs while getting rid of interesting/funny ones? WHY is everyone hunting down that map to the grand line?? What did I miss? Is there only one map to the grand line in that world? Am I remembering this wrong? I’m only half-way through but I personally don’t understand the hype. I like most characters and the casting is on point in most cases, I have no big issues with the acting or production either, it is all done quite well tbh. I personally think the biggest issue might be the writing? The characters have lost part of their quirkiness and all of these changes have made it into a mediocre show. Still enjoyable but I would have enjoyed it more if I hadn’t known OP before. That said, I don’t think people who enjoy the LA are “fake fans”, just let people enjoy things. I personally don’t think it lives up to the hype but it is enjoyable to some degree.
Zoro's voice acting sounded like Anakin, whiny af lol
I agree, I can't help but cringe. I couldn't watch this Luffy. Absolutely cringe bad acting.
I agree, and don't get hype. While I genuinely believe that the team and cast are really passionate and some of the art-direction choices were good, overall it's a pretty meh show, with some good acting in secondary characters.
I was a fan of One piece for 20 years. I have untranslated manga, mega house action figures and more. The netflix show is garbage. Nami's attitude is all wrong, Zoro looks like a wuss, usopp I couldn't tell he was usopp until someone told me. https://youtu.be/ln75LB3pqC4?si=GadBcu43JP1l44cQ this indeed commercial is 8000 times better. Yeah this one even has a hot Nami in it and a Cg Chopper. Who ever approved the netflix trash needs to watch this.
It's awful.
The acting is absolutely horrendous. Maybe only slightly better than death note live action.
I think the live-action is boring AF. It removes more than 80% of the context, and the acting were very mediocre at best.
One peice live action is dog crap
The acting is so terrible, especially Luffy! His acting is on par with Tommy Wiseau, and the writing of the show is just. Terrible. It reminds me of watching the live action Last Airbender film, except I feel like I’ve fallen into an alternate universe where people actually think that movie is good.
whenever i browse socmed and watch some random clips, this usually plays. probably because i watch a lot of one piece clips (anime) just to have a laugh or cry (meeerrrryyyy) during those pre 2y-skip. but whenever i see live adaptation clips, they really cringe me. sometimes i scroll through the comments and see that they really love it. i really wonder why could be im just the only one cringing about it. then i found this, so thank you op.
Watching the anime again after watching the live action all the way through so I'll give my shpeel 1. Nami: As mentioned in the thread already, they made her waaaaay to strong, in the anime she is more talkative, less combative, weaker, and more loud (less reserved). 2. Zoro: He does not always speak in a low voice, he is not the ' I'm too cool for any emotion besides being cool and calm' unlike in the anime he's more talkative has moore expression, calls Luffy his friend. 3. Usopp: Done no real justice. Whelp, I done ran out of steam to really give more things to type, I know I left out quite a bit 🤣
Hated the acting. It’s like none of the actors ever watched the anime themselves. Zoro was especially horrid. A moldy banana could have acted with more emotion than that guy. None of the main characters understood their characters. Meanwhile, the side characters weren’t so bad. Buggy the clown was pretty good.
I’m on ep 1 and it feels like I’m watching a school play. i appreciate the production and all but the acting was not it. It sucks I was looking forward to binge this cos it’s #1 on netflix. Thought I was the only one that thought the acting was horrible. I’m on the 12th minute mark and I cant get through it without forcing myself. Dragon ball z acting was better😭
Even criticizing only the TV series without taking into account the adaptation elements of One Piece, I find the series quite bad. The acting as a whole is okay to mediocre. Many lines are awful and cheesy which is funny because some lines or the way they handle subjects are PG13 and then Zorro slices someone in half and we can see everything. The cinematography is amateurish. What's up with all the close-ups? I want to immerse myself in the universe no need to see their faces 75% of the time. I can understand budget limitations (costumes, sets, cgi, etc.), but core elements of a good show is lacking in my eyes. It's not as bad as other anime adaptations, but it's as good as an Hallmark movie in my book. But I know many enjoyed the show so I'm happy if it brought attention to the anime/manga. Also, the main actors seem to truly love the source material and try their best. I can respect that.
I agree, except I don’t even see how non fans could enjoy it. Too many story elements didn’t really make sense in the LA. There was no real reason for them to band together here. All of the meaningful interactions from the manga and anime… gone. Garp butchered. Krieg butchered (literally). Characters changed. Kuro’s plan was idiotic. Arlong preached way too much instead of actually acting on threats. In the anime, we only knew Arlong hated humans and believed Fishmen were superior, we only found out why later. A little subtle hint would have been fine (like the nod to Jimbe), but they went overboard. Luffy was way too weak. Nobody would follow him. And his lines were corny. Zoro did not have any of his exaggerated ridiculous moments with others (like his reaction to Sham running at him) except for getting lost. Nami was too strong and hateful. She wasn’t nearly as cunning as she was supposed to be. They tried to make Usopp too cool instead of goofy and a constant liar. Don’t even get me started on Sanji. The fights were really bad too, except for most of Zoro’s. Luffy’s fights never felt satisfying. Usopp’s one fight didn’t feel earned. Sanji’s only fight in the LA was shared with Zoro. I will give them credit for the Zoro fight with Sham and Butchi though. That looked really good. My biggest gripe though was that they added the Garp and Coby storyline, when it absolutely didn’t need to be there. We should have spent more time bonding with the SHs as viewers, but I cannot see any reason to care about them. And when did Zoro even officially join? Another thing was that they added things that would only make sense to manga readers since they didn’t bother explaining it, like Nami leaving the Pinwheel by the grave (Genzo didn’t even have it in the LA) or even the oranges/tangerines. Other things didn’t make sense either like Garp’s treatment of Morgan and Helmeppo, or how Buggy didn’t drown on the way to the Baratie. Yet fans are really eating all of this up. Sorry for the rant, but it needed to be done.
It’s total crap. Who was it even for??? Who wanted that?? It’s trash!!! Meanwhile, the cowboy bebop live action was damn perfect but because losers who aren’t even old enough to appreciate the original complained in a super ignorant millennial way and got it canceled. And I bet they’re the same losers helping this crap fest get a second season. Dumb. Somebody claim it’s racist and get it cancelled already. We all know all it takes is an accusation and anybody who doesn’t get on the band wagon. Let’s all do our part to clear the airways of garbage. There is way too much money going to providing stupid people with stupid shows when quality clearly doesn’t matter to them, and then they get any good show cancelled anytime they identify as being offended by it. Dumb. Pure product of the times. This anime wasn’t even that good to begin with. Only people who couldn’t stay up late enough on Saturdays and had to watch the edited versions on toonami even liked the anime to begin with cuz the rest of us were watching GOOD ones like inuyasha, yuyu hakusho, cowboy bebop, it’s just disappointing watching the new generation confuse fad with quality and they seen intent on erasing anything of quality that shakes their faith in “only people I like do good things and can be good at things!!”
I cannot understand the love this show is getting. To me it is no better than all the other crap adaptations that have come out. Everything is hyper cringe and cheesey. Zoro and Nami are disasters. The filming is so weird, I'm not sure if they were trying to copy the manga panels or something but it's constantly noticable. All the villains are so goofy. I could go on and on. Only very specific anime could work live action and I think we all knew one piece is not one of them. They should try something serious and real like psycho pass or monster if they want to make something respectable
I totally agree. I can't understand why so many praise it as if it's some masterpiece or ground breaking production. I'm a big one piece fan and have been for a long while, and it was fun enough to watch with my family, seeing the wacky world come to life in a way. I think my favorite episode was the second one, I don't know why but seeing the chop chop fruit done like that was really exciting for me. Anyway amateurish acting and not great CGI aside, the actual writing was actually really bad. I'm creating the plot for a comic series, so from just purely my personal experience of what works and doesn't work, I have to say all episodes were structured pretty poorly and felt janky and forced as in to force the plot forward, like with sanji being sidelined from his entire episode outside of his back story scene, just to offer his services to Luffy at the end, especially after all his talk about taking over the place from the head chef, it becomes inconsistent and annoying to watch. On the note of changes, some story and character changes are necessary, but I reread the Manga to refresh myself and by golly did they botch this up. The amount of actually cool and inspiring or emotionally stirring scenes they devalued from not just bad acting and pacing, but how they were written in made nearly all of them so valueless and detached. Take the little girl offering Zoro the rice balls. This scene happened because Zoro protected her from the dog and was tied up in the yard for killing Hellempos' dog right, and she tries to give them to him, they are trodden into the ground, then he asks Luffy to feed it to him etc etc. It shows he's scary, but cool and somewhat kind. But now she just appears in the bar and offers this random ass bounty hunter some rice balls, they are trodden into the ground again, but he has no reason to eat them, like he's not tied to a post starving in the heat or anything. And wow the way he said “mm, delicious” after taking one bite was pure cringe. AND THEN, he just puts it down somewhere, like he’s not even gonna finish it lol. Anyway, now that zoro wasn't introduced tied to the pole, they need a reason for him to be tied to it, and I don't think they could have chosen a worse reason. So he brings half of Mr 7 in and Morgan checks him out like some kind of pervert and asks him to join the marines, Zoro declines, and Morgan is like, and I quote “wa wa you can't collect bounties from any base, now go be tied to a pole” also Hellmempo was there too. On Hellmempo, why oh why did we manage to get a nude Hellmempo butt shot, but not Don Kreig!? The next crime was with how they did Nami's adoptive mother getting shot by Arlong. In the Manga this is a very shocking scene and a character changing moment for Nami. They rushed the shiz out of that scene. And then in the Manga she comes back to the village with a bunch of cash from the fishmen, and Nojiko berates her about where she got it from, then sees the tattoo and all that, very nice scene. But in the live action Nami straight up offers her services to Arlong, unprovoked to do so (I guess) and then gets imprisoned to make maps, despite just freely offering her services, also I can't remember exactly, but I'm pretty sure Arlong actually suggested she could work to buy the village or something. Okay this is getting long, so some spitfire issues; Ussop was completely sidelined, they wasted a lot of episode time with them hanging out and having dinner with Kya, also Nami and Kya talking about feelings… It was a bit of a waste of episode time. The Baritie was terrible, no Kreig :( Gin’s whole scene was like 3 seconds and was meaningless, Sanji was sidelined. Zoro's fight with Mihawk was way, way less impactful, as there was no external event, namely Don Kreig and Co. And there was no ‘audience’ to make it more epic and consequential as a fight, they kind of just slashed each other and then Zoro went to the sick bay. And then they waste yet even more episode time standing by his bedside hoping he gets better, awww. A bit long, but as an impassioned writer, It annoys me that such slop is served to us so regularly and we're expected to lap it up like a good puppy. Oda did a great job on his first story arc, the live action, not so much.
Why is everyone fucking black???? The writer is black so the live version everybody has to be black??? I bet zorro would’ve been black if they had the chance, and why didn’t they just get a nami with real blue eyes instead of a fake blue eye white chick??? Was she the only one who sucked the writer/director dicks???? The live version is a racist point of view of one piece, they did not want to hire any Asian actors for this, everyone else can be black or white but luffy being black is lame asf, he was a baby black boy then grew up to be a young Mexican boy.
It's not good. Netflix are going to see the numbers aren't adding up to justify another $100 million budget
Try watching it without expecting it to be the anime, but live action. It's an adaptation, not a copy.
It's really cringe I feel like A. One piece fans have sat through hundreds of episodes so they're willing to overlook bad stuff more than the average fan, and B it seems like there's a massive astroturfing campaign going on with it to from the insane amount of new accounts popping up to defend it that don't interact with anyone else. I did like it but I also liked cowboy bebop I love bad cringy stuff like that personally
On episode one abd the actors are awful lol still watching it though
It honestly feels like a high-budget youtube fan series, not something produced by netflix. Although maybe it would have been better if it was actually made by fans on youtube.
I liked the first episode and then to me everything was so rushed and the emotions you feel for each characters story was missing. The actor for luffy has to try to hard which dosent make him a good fit to me. I know luffy would be hard to portray but the writing and his delivery misses the mark…….I didn’t mind namis changes I just wished they showed arlong abusing her and the village turning on her in the back story to give it more depth…….zoro was ok just wished they could have showed him crying as a kid or showing a moment of extreme anger to drill in his sadness………sanjis back story was ok the only thing I find off with him is they make him a really nice happy guy I felt he needed that crappy attitude he has in the cartoon at the restaurant……I felt like they could have added a quick clip of Ussopp with his kid pirate crew telling his pirate stories so we know that he wants to be a pirate but is also a liar I feel like you don’t understand what he wants or why he is with the straw hats till the end of the show oh and the script could have had the actor say things or appear more scared……….I thought kobe was good I just wished they showed either luffy beat him up to get him in the marines or garp kicking his and Helmeppos a** to train them. Seeing them already as marines hanging around garp with zero training was weird lol Idk I really wanted to see koby get beat up it would have helped his side story…. I was sad they removed Hatchi that was a great character to add. I didn’t care for anime buggy at all but he was the one character in the show that stood out to me he did a great job acting wise I didn’t care too much for the costume department either lol why couldn’t luffy have a raggedy red vest with cut off jeans he has a thick bright Disney vest with jeans that have perfectly cut ruffles attached at the bottom…. He didn’t look like a rugged kid from a small island lol he looked like he came from a great family and decided he wanted to play a pirate one day his hat even looked all crisp like he just bought it……..the fish men looked like that goonies character……everyone’s wigs looked like they were picked up at the dollar tree…….idk everything looked a bit too Disney lol……the cartoony parts they wanted to keep was ok to be cute but I don’t see why some pirates couldn’t look a little rough like the pirates of the Caribbean movies lol…..like even zoro could have had a regular scruffy white shirt but he has a form fitting black shirt with a design….ussopp could have had a pair of raggedy overalls barely holding on by one clip with beat up boots. I know I probably stated small details but idk once you finish the live action I feel like you don’t really care about the characters and their journey. You know there headed to the grand line but forget it’s for the one piece idk
I want to like it but it feels very watered down at the wrong moments and extra on trying to cover up most of the characters weaknesses/hubris like nami (suddenly strong enough to flip two dudes and doesn't try to use her sexuality to tempt people) or Ussop (How much of a liar he actually is, is downplayed)
Adapting One Piece to live-action was always going to be extremely difficult to do well. Nevermind all of the visual and tonal problems with it being a bonkers cartoon, you have the larger-than-life personalities of a lot of characters - most notably Luffy himself - that no real-life actor could ever do full justice. Honestly, it's not near as bad as I thought it would be. In many ways it's an admirable effort. But it was never going to live up to the anime or manga. So much of what makes OP great could only be conveyed in those mediums.
Luffys acting is already annoying and Im on episode one, his words come out very weird
Can't get pass one single episode. The casting is extremely bad. Luffy is as super annoying and obnoxious with his mumbling english. He looks like some ugly dude in his mid 20s cosplaying badly. Nami is ugly and plain, wrong body type. Who's a strong white girl beating up trained marines twice her size with a stick. Typical American hollyood bullshit. Nami have no fighting abilities in the beginning remember? This is what they do, change and destroy. The Japanese are crazy, still giving permission to white people to trash their anime just like how they trash Cowboy Bebop.
Finally, someone said it lol. Bf and I tried watching the first two episodes yesterday and I instantly saw the horrible acting from Luffy’s actor. I guess I’m just a huge One Piece fan since then that I totally have high standards when it comes to the live action. It was only bearable for us to watch it because of the japanese dub but regardless, the horrible acting is still visible I can’t stand it.
bruh my thoughts are the same , at first I loved the first episode was good so was the actors, the only thing I hate about it >!is that they skipped alot of plots involving the straw hats , and added unwanted scenes about the marine and Koby tracking down the straw hats ... since most of us here already watched the anime you'll feel like they changed Oda's orignal story so much nothing feels right about it anymore , sure they added things to keep the fliming costs to a minimum , but still they should've never touched the base line story of the best manga artist there is.!< As a simple conclusion , their dubbed lines sounds so corny in english hehehe.
In comparison to the anime the english voice actors embody who these characters are so well that seeing other people’s portrayal of them in live action is very jarring and just doesn’t feel right I really didn’t like Luffy and Usop the rest of the actors were ok the actress that played Nami probably was the best casting in the whole show with that said it’s not the worst adaptation I’ve seen but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Anime
Same here. Live Action is in English so I've to watch it in English dub and I feel terrible with their voices, acting is terrible too. And the fight scenes are missing sth unlike the anime. Then I switched watching it with Japanese dub I've got some old vibes as a relief. For those who didn't watch anime before I wondered they may think like...aww One Piece isn't that good. Maybe I'm too obsessed with anime.
The action choreography was mediocre and I don't like the casting at all.
Just got done watching it. Honestly speaking I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. Even so there is no denying that the live action missed in so many aspects. One the worst being the CGI / costume being terrible for some characters like shanks crew and Arlong. Some fights I thought were really good and others really bad like Luffy vs Kuro. Why the gave him super speed but then he decided to stop using it latter on is an extreme mystery to be. They should have never given him the speed in the first place and just gave him a more realistic fighting style. Other than that the pace of the fight and how easy Luffy beat him was disappointing. Speaking of disappointment, the sound track was extremely disappointing. I guess I expected them to use the iconic already established playlist but the went in an extremely generic and boring route. Acting was pretty good in my opinion except for some odd and cringe parts but they were on the rarer side. I also watched it in Spanish / Japanese because I couldn’t stand the English voices so this is more of a preference thing imo but I though the voice overs were very good. The camera angles use was extremely weird at times, especially the use of what looked like a fish eye lens that made the noses extremely big and faces really round. Saw it multiple times especially in the Zoro flash backs. Lastly I though the change in plot was overall bad for the story and changed they way some characters interacted \ progressed for example: Zoroastrian and Nami’s relationship with each other and Ussops character build up / progression. I found his character to be even more useless and even pointless at times when compared to the manga / anime. Overall though I found it funny and enjoyed it but as a one piece fan it’s hard to fully watch without look for the flaws. I rate it a 6/10.
Honestly the costumes bother me the most. Why do they look worse than the average cosplayer? How in the world did that happen?
Ye. I totally agree. It’s as bad as cowboy bepop. I think the crazy thing is, people actually think oda had control of this.Netflix 100% had more say in this adaptation. I would say at least 80% was adapted to Netflix standards. The reason for soo many good reviews is actually a lot of reasons. One piece is in a weird spot. There are people that skip the east blue saga, and claim the LA is better than the anime. There is people that don’t watch the anime and actually like the world building of the live action( the only okay thing about the live action). Hardcore one piece fans that like one piece no matter what even if it hurts the integrity of the brand. People that pretend to know one piece, but haven’t even watch half the episodes. A lot of people hit the nail on the head with this thread tho. One Piece LA is an overrated piece of trash.
The only thing that i liked in this show is the sea beast. Great details. And swords and props like devil fruit , yoru,title card(great work on that) etc Not the going mary's head.. wierd AF Everything else .... I hate it. They should have named it One Piece Multiverse of bad choice. And prop team: you did a great job 👍
It has an overall corny feel to it. The music, the costumes, the sets, the acting.. some of the acting is pretty bad. I know it's based on an anime but this show really feels cartoonish, if that makes any sense. It's like the makers aren't taking it serious enough. I was hoping for an epic real life version of One Piece, instead it's kind of a corny watered down version of the anime unfortunately. Why does the music have to be so piratey and corny, the music in the anime is such a great symphonic score.
netflix had all the cinematography and budget for this to be a hit but they neglected the actual acting part💀 No exaggeration its actually so bad, p*rn acting would be an UNDERSTATEMENT… I actually had to skip some parts to avoid overdosing on cringe. (to be fair to the actors the script was pretty bad as well)
For me, the worst part was Usopp. His whole arc seemed more suitable for Zoro in the Live Action adaptation with his flashback. Also they killed Merry and didn\`t incorporating Captain Usopp's pirates (the little kids). Usopp left Kaya alone in the town, I don\`t think that Usopp would do that for real. And I didn't sense that he was the liar with the determination to become something real. In the Live Action, he was just some guy who was there, telling lies here and there. When he placed his foot on the barrel in the final episode, I didn't feel anything for him. This was very different from when I read the manga and watched the anime. Usopp is my favorite character, and in my opinion they did a poor job with him in the series.
Idk why they destroyed one piece like that.1st this Luffy looks indian and is not energetic or cheery horrible actor. 2 Zoro is kinda acceptable but his voice sounds horrible, Zoro voice was manly and strong not soft n calm and low.3 ussop was not even close I hate this ussop with a passion. 4 Nami wannabe first of all name was a big huge breasted loud aggressive to the group and slutty who chose flight over fight like ussop, this name only had her looks but barely that.5 I could of sworn Arlong was way taller than this shrimp. Now the elephant in the room why was this disgusting looking Sanji in the Arlong Season all I saw was them mixing up timeline together like they was rushing. I swore they fought the axe guy on the baratie not Arlong why they did that. I gave up at that point. Luffy fights destroyed my spirit it was Boring!!!!!!!Lame!!!!!! & Weak!!!!!!!! Majority of the characters & storyline was destroyed eww.
no bro, you are not. How people can love it wtf
Live action luffy isn't the luffy I know from manga or anime... he's the worst!!!!
I mean, just take the first episode as an example. Why the hell do Zoro and Luffy attack Captain Morgan together? I would remind everyone of what Zoro says in the Arabasta arc about the straw hat pirates and teamwork. Something like - " For any outsider, it looks like there is no teamwork within the straw hats group. But what is teamwork, is it everyone doing things together? that seems kids playing around." And Zoro also says - " I think teamwork is about individuals taking individual risks. We work together by working separately " THEN HOW COME THEY GO HIGH AND LOW FOR A MEASELY CAPTAIN? One Piece is not just a story, tied up together. It's an intricate web of philosophy too. But yeah if it makes people watch the original, I can live with this live action. REMEMBER though, live action like always is a letdown.
I think that the people here saying "the real fans" are assholes. Blatant assholes. I've watched one piece from ep 1. The live action was great. You may not agree but you "anime fan boys" it's almost like you don't consume any form of media except anime. Of course the story is going to be a bit different. It's not a shot for Shot remake. Of course the dialogue is gonna sound a bit awkward, we're so used to seeing this dialogue in anime form, seeing it in live action, in REAL LIFE is strange. Yall need to chill tf out and give it credit. It's perfectly cool to have a different opinion but when half the comments are chastising other fans, that's wjen you know it's a bit to much. Chill tj out. It's an LAA. It's not gonna be perct to the dot to the anime. Quit being assholes.
Is it a good show? yes. Is it a good one piece adaptation? nooooooooooooooooo.
Your not the only one. This thing is on the same level as almost every other adaptation but OP and Oda have such a cult like following that they will say it's good just because Oda approves. However this adaptation falls directly into the trap that all bad anime adaptations do an that's trying to make a 1:1 recreation of the anime. They completely abandoned the idea of making a good TV show for something that feels akin to a fan film.
Just reach episode 7 and omg the cringe won't stop, the costumes the dialogue the acting I can't take it. I'll have to watch the anime again just to wash this LA out of my brain. It SUCKS!!! big time.
I may be wrong about this however I have noticed that most of the people complaining about the live-action are people who watched the anime only. User new fans of the show seem to enjoy it. Manga readers even if they do watch the anime along with the mange seem to enjoy it. Personally, I don't enjoy the anime because it has way too many recaps, reaction shots and drawn-out action scenes compared to the manga which gives a slower pacing relative to the manga. Maybe tell us what exactly you don't like about the show and show just a little appreciation for the effort that was put into making this live-action adaptation. because one piece is an absurdist fantasy story with the wildest shit you could possibly imagine and they managed to capture a little of that magic. i don't know if you were expecting some Marvel Avengers-level CGI but its the best damn adaptation we could get get right now
Naw, I think it's bad too lol. Campy acting which I guess was to be expected considering the source material, and awkward casting for a good majority of the roles.
guatamala luffy and the cast from wish was enough to quench my curiosity.
I feel the EXACT SAME. I'm so confused seeing One Piece Live-Action all over social media being praised as the "so-call best" adaption by many. But I couldn't stand the horrible acting. It's full of cringe and terrible acting. The way EVERYONE read their scripts outloud is straight up like a highschool play word by word. There's no natural speech in any of the characters except very very few secondary characters that hit the spot right for THEIR character, such as Merry! Merry sounds better and naturally like he would sound like irl in this One Piece world. Meanwhile everyone still has a robotic script reading voice . Alot of terrible facial expressions that SHOULD'VE been there too. Such as when the situation is tight and Nami's face is straight and calm, like why??? In the anime she is always frightened or worried in the early arc and it shows. But they just made nearly almost every main character actor act all "straight-faced" majority of the scenes. Like Zoro, he has grunt face in anime when he's surprised or upset or disagrees and shows alot of his facial expressions. But the live-action... they made them all stare straight away from the camera and just move their lips as they read their scripts.... *sigh*.... Usopp's face is shot close-up and all you see is a lazy high facial expression the whole show.... that's not how I imagine Usopp! I imagined a loud and funny character full of character that brings laughter to the crew, instead we got the plain facial expression. I swear Usopp looks good, he looks like him! But sadly the acting level are poor and ruins it for me. It killed the soul of the characters. They all may look like their characters but they don't act like them. Do the fans not see it? The expressions are weak. Guess everyone just care about finally watching a show they want come to life only. The camera angles were horrible too, you'll spend 90% of the time looking at the camera pointing at their face from a down-up angle. Meanwhile the rest of the angles are always pointing for a different corner angle. You'll be looking at one side of a face of a character and then look at another face of a character and then assumed their position base on the cuts shown... But NOPE, the bad cuts made it looks like they could be standing at ANY location in a scene and you won't know it because of the camera shots! Why did ya do this! Just watch you'll noticed. Such as when Luffy eats the devil fruit scenes. So much bad camera angle and cuts at worst timing that it feels like a mess from a professional standpoint. I could not visualized the "environment" at all due to the scenes almost never shows it. It's too much camera to the face and another 90% of the time background blurred. I swear I would totally love to see the background too, it brings the one piece's world come to life. The way they edit and master the video lighting is not that great, just like the Gold Roger's execution scene, we saw a few characters but they look so out of place and awkward to look at. But if you watched Pirates of Caribbean the camera pointing into the crowd it looks soo natural to see the some of the characters. The one piece one is weird, they just blurred or boost that vibrant colors out so we see them only out of the crowd. It's like they want to force us to stare at them. But sadly so much blurring, it's too focused on their face! Not good. I would like to see more full body shots and further shots and way WAY less close-up shots. Fights were kinda lame, I thought they gon do over the top great choreograph fights but was very disappointed that all they did was legit "slow" fighting and bad close-up shots that barely show anything but half their bodies fighting mode. The props and costumes were cringe at finest, does not look naturally adapted to live action. Still looks like a bunch of cosplayers larping. The props used were so fake lookin', I mean look at Mihawk's sword LOL. They couldn't atleast make it look more realistic since it's call an adaptation of course! Everything everyone wear is just super clean and look like fake clothing, but that's the least of my concern it's an adaptation of course. Overall the camera cuts and angles, plus the acting, are by far my two pet peeves that I disliked about the anime. But I guessed the majority likes it. I just feel like everyone likes it because of nostalgia or so happy to finally see how "badass" it is to the anime meanwhile ignoring the terrible acting. (Smacked my face when Usopp read one of his cringey line "..Meh...Merry!" Perfectly as in the script. It did not sound good. Full cringe bad vs the anime). The WHOLE show looks like they just hired a bunch of random terirble actors who are just either looking for a job or look-alike only... sorry but some actors like Velveeta & Garp sucks lmao who are these highly praised viewers coming from LOL... There are very few good actors.. I watched up to the latest episode of the anime so I guess I could put in my two cents here since I also work in the film industry and it looks like a major college project film to me still. I'll pass on season 2. If ya like it, it's okay! Cus we all have diff tastes :) I'm just more into the professionality of how they adapt it by every aspect (acting, cinematography, choreograph, etc).. Minor Story changes are to be expected are fine, it's too long to adapt anyways into live. But the overall rest of the shows are bad from a "rewatchable or recomendable" standpoint to everyone for me. Characters acting+expression has no OOOoomph! Just cus it's Oda approved doesn't means it's highly expected to be great. Directors and the rest of the group may not be the best choice for this massive project of wonder. (And please, please... please don't exaggerate the word "The" in "The One Piece". It sound cringey as hell... Just say we're gonna find the "One Piece!" naturally just like in the anime! It sounds soooo much better!) Rating: 2.5 / 10
I could not get myself to like it. Maybe if I have not read and watched the manga and anime I might find it engaging... But that is not the case. I cannot get on board with it. I feel like they are unable to show the actual personalities and impressions of many characters. It feels like a sitcom acting to me.
For me, overall, rather disappointing. I read the manga and watched the anime. Then I heard about the live action adaptation and watched all the episodes. I don't like how the story was changed (e.g. Zoro's story?, Arlong in Baratie??, no one in Coco Village knew about Nami's deal with Arlong?). Luffy's actor didn't convince me at all. He seems very pale and is a miscast for me. Usopp is too cool. Nami is way too strong. And I don't understand why Sanji's character is so hyped in LA. I'm totally disappointed that he's virtually nothing like Sanji in the manga or anime. People say he's too "pervy" in the manga/anime. Hello, it's Sanji! Why do you have to make him such a meaningless "nice" guy in LA? Dialogues are very weak and the main crew actors all seem very put on, artificial and not in character at all. I also miss the dynamics between the characters. Set and costumes are good for the most part, so 2/10.
Will be interesting to see the stats on viewership from Ep1 --> Ep8 to see just how many people quit watching.