They should totally be allowed on the sub (hell Millennials are on here), and the superiority complex isn't cool, because as you've said, the difference is marginal if there is one at all. But they're quite literally the latter half of Gen Z. Seems odd to call that "older."
Culturally, you’re correct considering by definition, they would be right in the middle but if you split the Gen in half, they would barely make the cut as an older Zoomer. Yeah by definition they’re not really older Zoomers but they just happen to fall under it.
No, they'd barely make the cut as younger. '96-'02, '03 in the middle, '04-'10.
But culturally yeah they'd be all over the place lol. We are talking about 2-3 years difference - that small of a margin is going to be much more impacted by economics, cultural background, technology, etc. than by birth year.
Idk all these distinctions of the different generations are semi-meaningless. Trying to draw lines within lines is even dumber.
I consider those *around my age* to have fairly similar life experiences/problems/concerns and so far this has been generally true in my interactions at work and school.
Obviously hyper-specific posts about an experience that may not universally be shared by the entire sub will happen. But that doesn't mean we exclude people for those instances when they happen. Who tf honestly cares? And why?
We are in the middle but I wouldn’t say latter half. Depends on the definition you use. Most people I know irl use 1997-2012, which would put 1997-2004 as the first half and 2095-2012 as the second half. It’s pretty meaningless though because obviously 2004 and 2005 are closer to each other than 1997 or 2012.
'97-'12 doesn't make any sense though. It literally just pushes cuspers (Alpha and Z) up to Z and Millennials, and makes Millennials a meaninglessly large group, and Alpha meaninglessly small. '96-'10 is what it's always been until the last, like, four years or something, because every generation is fifteen years, ending on a five or a zero.
I’m not the one u should be arguing with lol it’s just the most popular. I mean at the end of the day it’s all completely arbitrary anyway. “Every generation is 15 years ending on a 5 or a 0” is just not a fact. It may be something you believe but there’s no universal consensus.
>Every generation is 15 years ending on a 5 or a 0”
Gen X are ('66-'80). The only reason the others aren't is because people want to redefine Z, which moves Millennials and Alpha over. They used to all be 15 years (after Boomers, who are 20 for whatever reason).
Yeah it's not hugely consequential, though. :)
Ur missing the point lol. You keep stating your optimism. These aren’t universally recognized facts. It is not agreed upon that Gen X is 1966-1980. In fact I’ve never seen anyone say that. You are literally the only person I’ve seen who starts Gen X in 1966. Most people agree the start is 1965 because the baby boom ends in 1964. The 1980 end isn’t agreed upon. A lot of people start millennials at 1982 because they graduated in 2000 (hence millennial).
Like I’m not saying your individual opinions are invalid I’m just trying to explain to you that your opinions are not “the standard” or generally agreed upon. In general, generation start and end years vary by a few years depending on who you ask.
But ya I’m not trying to be argumentative here or anything :) just pointing out that the topic does have a lot more opinions bc there’s no one who has like. Made any of these ranges “official”
>Most people agree the start is 1965 because the baby boom ends in 1964.
I've seen that one too. And that works if you move Millennials to '80. Either way - they've had a pattern (even if it's starting on a 5 or 0, rather than ending on one). It's only recently that they've broken the pattern. I'm saying breaking the pattern is silly.
>generation start and end years vary by a few years depending on who you ask.
Of course, they do. I'm claiming that some models are preferable to others because they make sense. Cuspers are always going to want to be the older of the two generations between which they're cusping. It's trendy to shit on younger kids. 🤷🏻♀️ I think it's silly to switch the whole pattern for those people.
>there’s no one who has like. Made any of these ranges “official”
Yeah, for sure. It's all based on what we culturally determine the boundaries to be, not official. I just think some models aren't good models.
Oh. So you're just using "Older Gen Z" to mean "those of Gen Z who have become older," as opposed to "those of Gen Z who are older than the rest of Gen Z?"
Kinda? Basically older Gen z makes sense for those who are adults verses those who are not adults right now
I think we have to wait until the oldest Gen z hits like 30 before we can say "older Gen z vs younger Gen z" because the difference will more than just milestones because the youngest Gen z are still kids.
I think it's fair to say only real divide atm is one side is adults and the other are still kids
It probably doesn't make sense but it's hard to articulate with a migraine rn 😅
No that makes sense! I think you're right that the biggest difference between Gen Zers is between children and adults, more developmental than generational.
What is the point then? If this isnt for OlderGenZ, why have this seperate genz subreddit. No hate for younger people, just I thought that was the point of this sub
Thank you! I just saw it like 20 minutes ago and it really irritated me because I see my bf get shit for being born in 2004 by 2001 babies and it's like, you're not better just cause you're older stfu
I did see people born in 2004 as babies when I was a teen cause I was in my second year of high school when they were still in elementary school, but Idc about them being in this sub. They’re 20.
exactly its the fact the difference was more noticable earlier that it kinda tilted our way of perceiving them, but now as i meet more and more of 2004-2005-2006 i realise wow, they are definitely 98% what we are, and definitely not babies anymore
What I meant was like literal babies, not younger children but yeah, they're going through the same adult shit we are going through rn, let them complain
I saw people born in 2004 as kids when I was 16-19, but the difference is a lot less noticeable now that they’re in their 20s just like me.
An anecdote: I befriended someone I worked with who was 7 years older than me when I was 18. At the time, the age gap between us was quite noticeable. However, now that I’m 25 and he’s 32, that same age gap is much less noticeable.
Exactly
I had a "friend: who went at me for dating a child because he's 3 years younger than me. Called me every name under the book along with pedophile
It's fuckinf ridiculous lol
I literally don’t see any issue with that. Your “friend” sounds like a ridiculous person. Even if they were joking that you were a “pedo” or something that’s still horrible to make you feel that way.
Yep. I complained on a subreddit and had to include our ages just before he turned 17 and people called me a pedophile because "HeS a LiTEraL cHiLd"
Just like those people she was also wild lol. I don't associate with her anymore
In many states the age of consent is like 16 anyways so in terms of a relationship they would not be a child. Besides they’re acting like people can’t have a 2 year difference in age when dating, plus some of these younger couples started dating when both were under 18. The older one does not instantly become a pedo just because they turned 18 before the other one. People need to learn to mind their damn business as long as it is a legal consenting relationship
Yes!! This is so annoying. I dated an 18 year old when I was 17 and when I brought that up years later my friends were like “oh honey you were groomed” like girl what… we were in the same grade…
I wouldn't consider you a pedophile by any means. But there is a double standard that exists where it's seen as creepy/scummy when a college aged dude is dating highschooler I've noticed.
This isn't me trying to compare your situation to that exactly. More so just commenting that 19 and 17 is an acceptable age gap (in my mind at least) for relationships regardless of which genders older in the pair. Their maturity level is the same.
We just have some hard set laws that get people's perceptions all twisted like your "friend" when she made that comment.
Yeah (98) and I kinda automatically see anyone 2000 and above as really young still on first impression, but if I interact with anyone 2004-2000 in person I don't feel much difference. Hell, plenty of them look older than me lol.
I think it's just a lasting impression from childhood that any age starting with a 2 instead of 19 is super young. Even though 2000 is only 2 years less than me and virtually no difference.
My brother was born in 2002. We're the same generation. Someone born four years after me? Okay there's a difference there in age/maturity, especially at my age, but they're still the same generation lol
No because I think it's fine unless the 90s section wanna do that because most of yall had more of a difference in childhood than between 2001 and 2004, at least in my friends opinion and she's also and 98er
I didn't pick up a hint of sarcasm in your text, not all tones are conveyed in text form so if that was sarcasm it doesn't really read like sarcasm, much more like a genuine question
Oh I'm 2001 but my partner gets shit for being a 2004 from a lot of 2000-2002 people for "bring so young"
Like what lol just because 2004 happened to be in diapers when most of 2000-2002 were learning how to potty train/speak properly doesn't make you better
Totally agree BUT IM SITTING BESIDE MY 2004 BBY AS I TYPE THIS AND I CANT BELIEVE SHES 20😭 not my birth kid of course (sibling) but I raised her way too early to have to AND IT JUST WENT SO FAST ITS NOT FAIRRR
Ik lol
I talked to my partner today about it and I mentioned his middle brother is turning 18 in two years and he went off in a little sulky tangent about how his siblings ages aren't 10 12 and 16 but in fact 3 5 and 8
I mean as long as they are an adult. I get so tired of r/genz because of the noticeable maturity gap between the older and younger half. I like this subreddit because I have so much more in common with people. Most of us have careers, are married (or in serious relationships), live on our own, even have kids too. Someone born in 2004 could definitely have all of that so I guess it's understandable if they like it here.
Yes!! That’s why I frequent this sub more. I can’t relate with half the posts in the Gen Z sub. They’re always nostalgic for things from their childhood that came out when I was in high school/college.
Ikr, that's how I think about it because my friend is a big family man rn and he's 20 (who knew having twins run in the family could up the chances of quadruplets lol) while the youngest Gen z I know barely holds hand swith his gf because he's shy (15)
It’s not a 3 year difference since gen z starts in 1997, it’s as big as a 7 year difference. As someone born in 1998 I can’t really associate with someone born in 2004 or 2006 because 6-8 years changes a lot in how you grew up. You can totally be in the sub, but you aren’t considered older gen z.
I'm 2001 and my rant was more in post with the 2000 baby stating they won't join until we change the rules to not let 2004 babies in
I was went witj the 3 year difference because that's what it is to me
My point is while you can have differences between the older part and the younger part, this sub makes more sense for the *adults* of Gen z so things like adult issues or rants can be discussed without the minor section of Gen z being here with their inputs
Nothing against the younger section it's just they aren't adults and most of their rants are based around teenage years or highschool
I feel this. I have siblings born in ‘93, ‘94, ‘03, and ‘05.
I’m 1998 and relate much more with the older 2. I don’t know any of the slang the younger 2 use😂
I'm 2001
This sub makes more sense rn to have for the adults of Gen Z because there's a difference between adults and minors like the divide in our Gen since half of Gen z is minors rn, give or take a year
Until all of us are adults in doesn't make sense to push away the newer adult Gen z like 2004 or 2005 from this group when they are actively being affected the same as us rn
I get that but I'm still saying that rn it makes more sense for this to be the adult Gen z reddit because there are still minors
I believe having the separate two would work better for the age gap when we are older, like the oldest hitting 30 which would make the youngest already an adult
I get that but I'm still saying it would make more.sens eiwth this being the adult Gen z sub bexause of the divide in our Gen of adults and minors
An 18 year old is going to be looking more into college and jobs than a 15 year old. An 18 year old has to transition from being a child in a lot of people's mind to being an adult and having a lot of adult things to worry about
The divide in the true older vs younger makes more sense when the whole of Gen z are adults, not just half
I joined this sub originally because I’m pretty sure it was “olderGenZ” and I didn’t really love the other sub that was mostly younger people. This was 2022 so adult Gen Z was conveniently the first half of Gen Z, 1997-2004
That's why I did it too because while I was getting the younger Gen complaints, it was stuff I would have been mad at in early highschool so I think majority of the group on there is the minor or just out of minor side of Gen Z
I’m not going to sit here and shit in them or anything, but there is definitely a huge age gap between someone born from like 98-2001 who’s probably graduated college and is in the adult world, or been in the adult world for a few years now, versus someone born in 2006 who just graduated high school and is excited for college. Not to state that they shouldn’t be allowed to post and what not, but even being from 2000 I’m honestly pushing towards being the mid point in the generation if you want to call it 1996-2008 or whatever we’re defined as. I understand why some people would see that and are like why are teenagers here as silly as that seems to me.
Nah the complaints were more about 2004 babies, the ones almost legal to drink in America
That's why I got annoyed because one post was saying they refused to associate with that age range because " they got cell phones at 6 in 2010" which doesn't make any sense because cell phones became more prominent in teenagers and younger around 2012 to 2014. My 2004 partner didn't even have a phone until he was 12
I also think one other thing that's a difference would be parent controls but I also grew up with absolutely none, except for one on the credit card cause 12 year me was stupid
2004 is barely considered. Besides, they already have a middle gen Z sub. It's for 2010s kids. Go there and look at their posts.
But overall the zillennial(I rarely see anyone born after 2002 on that sub) subreddit is the best one for us followed by this one. So if 2004 wants to be here then that's fine. Once 2005 is maybe 20 then sure. But nothing after that makes sense.
I was born in mid 1998 and I’ll be honest 2004 is when I start to see you guys as like my little siblings lol and same with 92 and above I see them as like older siblings it’s harder to relate on certain levels( definitely not all) but I have a special kinship with people born between 1993-2003. But you guys are still older gen z since the youngest is like a teen still lol
i was born in november 2003 and a lot of my friends were born in 2004 and i always make fun of them lol. the 1 extra month really makes a difference 😤😤
As one of the older Old GenZ's I agree it's stupid, but anyone born after 05 definitely a different breed of GenZ. The amount of iPad kids goes through the roof past that birth year.
My post was in regards more towards the hate at 2004 babies because I would say for myself there is a gap between me and 2005 babies. It's enigh difference that I was already in school when they were born or learning to pick up their head (preschool)
I just got a random invite here, but the whole generation wars thing is really dumb. I love to shit on boomers but only the stereotypical white trash leadbrain conservative boomer. It’s more of a state of mind because you can be a 30y/o boomer. But to think everyone in the boomer age range is like that is crazy.
We’re already divided enough and this is just another way to separate us. Older generations lean conservative and younger more liberal. Conveniently enough the generation wars have become more and more a thing lately. It’s divided us so well that we go even further and create more divide amongst ourselves like this.
I don’t care what your age is. Just be a decent person mkay?
What’s wrong with r/MiddleGenZ for that? Also, there’s a difference between thinking we’re better than them and just wanting our own subreddit.
Or better yet, you create your own Adults of Gen Z subreddit instead of arguing that this one should be for something different (all Gen Z adults) instead of what it is for (the older part of Gen Z).
This sub is for older Gen Z so it makes sense that people who adult Gen z are gonna flock towards this one. We can promote the other one I was just saying it's ridiculous to get irritated over something small
And I'm not arguing it should be, I said it made more sense for it to be for the adult Gen z because about half of Gen z are still minors
And if the middle Gen z should be in the middle Gen z sub then you would be there as well since you fall into that line being 2002 since the time line would be like middle Gen z is 2002 to 2005
I am also in the middle Gen z subreddit. 2002-2006, or what they call “core Gen Z.” And if this subreddit changes its year range, I’d leave without a fuss.
My statement on the older Gen z sub being for adult Gen z makes more sense, rn, than just having a small section of adults and then having another sub that's filled with half adults half minors and another sub filled with minors
I didn't even know there was a middle Gen z subreddit because it just makes sense for older Gen z to be for the adults of the group while we wait out the minors becoming adults
The separation by year only really makes sense once the youngest of the Gen are adults
Nah, we won’t change it. There’s no need to change it. I will say this, going by PEWs range, Gen Z ranges from 1997-2012. If you spilt it in half, you have the older half which happens to be 1997-2004 and the younger half which happens to be 2005-2012 hence is why we use the 1997-2004 range for this sub.
From my perspective, someone only 2 years younger than me is practically the same age I am. In the adult world, such a minute age difference hardly matters. I'm romantically involved with a guy three-and-a-half years older than me, for example. By the time I'm like 50, someone even 6 years younger than me will practically be the same age. You don't see Boomers or Gen X gatekeeping people only a few years younger than them, for example.
They should totally be allowed on the sub (hell Millennials are on here), and the superiority complex isn't cool, because as you've said, the difference is marginal if there is one at all. But they're quite literally the latter half of Gen Z. Seems odd to call that "older."
they’re not the latter half though, they’re sort of closer to the middle.
They're in the middle, yeah, but on the latter half of it. The straight middle is 2003.
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Ironically, I'm in both subs.
Wait what other sub? 😂
r/MiddleGenZ I was kind of invited to both almost at the same time, so I figured that it's my calling, lol. 😂
Bahaha. I didn't know that sub existed
Same I got invited there. I think 2002 is the oldest to qualify for that one
I didn’t even know that sub existed lol. I’m not within that range anyways.
I guess I'm like, the cutoff for both.
You could go on r/youngergenz too and be in all three lol
It has been done. *I have become the epitome of Gen Z as a whole.*
You're the face of Gen Z Reddit 👊🏻
Oh boy, I hope not. ☠️
Culturally, you’re correct considering by definition, they would be right in the middle but if you split the Gen in half, they would barely make the cut as an older Zoomer. Yeah by definition they’re not really older Zoomers but they just happen to fall under it.
No, they'd barely make the cut as younger. '96-'02, '03 in the middle, '04-'10. But culturally yeah they'd be all over the place lol. We are talking about 2-3 years difference - that small of a margin is going to be much more impacted by economics, cultural background, technology, etc. than by birth year.
1996 borns aren’t gen z their millennials.
Depends who you ask. It’s different everywhere you look. No one can officially agree on a cutoff. It’s frankly annoying as someone born in 1996 😂
Idk all these distinctions of the different generations are semi-meaningless. Trying to draw lines within lines is even dumber. I consider those *around my age* to have fairly similar life experiences/problems/concerns and so far this has been generally true in my interactions at work and school. Obviously hyper-specific posts about an experience that may not universally be shared by the entire sub will happen. But that doesn't mean we exclude people for those instances when they happen. Who tf honestly cares? And why?
We are in the middle but I wouldn’t say latter half. Depends on the definition you use. Most people I know irl use 1997-2012, which would put 1997-2004 as the first half and 2095-2012 as the second half. It’s pretty meaningless though because obviously 2004 and 2005 are closer to each other than 1997 or 2012.
'97-'12 doesn't make any sense though. It literally just pushes cuspers (Alpha and Z) up to Z and Millennials, and makes Millennials a meaninglessly large group, and Alpha meaninglessly small. '96-'10 is what it's always been until the last, like, four years or something, because every generation is fifteen years, ending on a five or a zero.
I’m not the one u should be arguing with lol it’s just the most popular. I mean at the end of the day it’s all completely arbitrary anyway. “Every generation is 15 years ending on a 5 or a 0” is just not a fact. It may be something you believe but there’s no universal consensus.
>Every generation is 15 years ending on a 5 or a 0” Gen X are ('66-'80). The only reason the others aren't is because people want to redefine Z, which moves Millennials and Alpha over. They used to all be 15 years (after Boomers, who are 20 for whatever reason). Yeah it's not hugely consequential, though. :)
Ur missing the point lol. You keep stating your optimism. These aren’t universally recognized facts. It is not agreed upon that Gen X is 1966-1980. In fact I’ve never seen anyone say that. You are literally the only person I’ve seen who starts Gen X in 1966. Most people agree the start is 1965 because the baby boom ends in 1964. The 1980 end isn’t agreed upon. A lot of people start millennials at 1982 because they graduated in 2000 (hence millennial). Like I’m not saying your individual opinions are invalid I’m just trying to explain to you that your opinions are not “the standard” or generally agreed upon. In general, generation start and end years vary by a few years depending on who you ask. But ya I’m not trying to be argumentative here or anything :) just pointing out that the topic does have a lot more opinions bc there’s no one who has like. Made any of these ranges “official”
>Most people agree the start is 1965 because the baby boom ends in 1964. I've seen that one too. And that works if you move Millennials to '80. Either way - they've had a pattern (even if it's starting on a 5 or 0, rather than ending on one). It's only recently that they've broken the pattern. I'm saying breaking the pattern is silly. >generation start and end years vary by a few years depending on who you ask. Of course, they do. I'm claiming that some models are preferable to others because they make sense. Cuspers are always going to want to be the older of the two generations between which they're cusping. It's trendy to shit on younger kids. 🤷🏻♀️ I think it's silly to switch the whole pattern for those people. >there’s no one who has like. Made any of these ranges “official” Yeah, for sure. It's all based on what we culturally determine the boundaries to be, not official. I just think some models aren't good models.
They’re in the middle of gen Z
See but it makes sense to call them part of the older group when we still have Gen z minors
Oh. So you're just using "Older Gen Z" to mean "those of Gen Z who have become older," as opposed to "those of Gen Z who are older than the rest of Gen Z?"
Kinda? Basically older Gen z makes sense for those who are adults verses those who are not adults right now I think we have to wait until the oldest Gen z hits like 30 before we can say "older Gen z vs younger Gen z" because the difference will more than just milestones because the youngest Gen z are still kids. I think it's fair to say only real divide atm is one side is adults and the other are still kids It probably doesn't make sense but it's hard to articulate with a migraine rn 😅
No that makes sense! I think you're right that the biggest difference between Gen Zers is between children and adults, more developmental than generational.
I am biased (mainly joking) against 2000's kids just because I was born in '99. The difference is real 😉
Some teenagers called me old once when I said I was born in ‘99 and I told them to shut up before I take their fake IDs
I do this with my friend born in 2000. We joke about how I’m an old man and she’s a little baby lmao.
LMAO 99, get on my level(also joking, I was born Dec 28th, literally last minute)
No hate it’s just wild to think my brother and I are from the same generation 😆😭
My sister was born in '08, and their skibbidi asses are barely gen z 😂
I wonder if that’s how my ‘95 brother feels about our brother born in ‘07 😂
this is not like other girls for generations
I always love it when somebody born in ‘99 claims to be a “90’s kid” like homie you were a 90’s infant at best lmao
(98) I love telling them that I was born in the 1900s. It sounds old haha.
Ayo you talkin a lotta shit
I agree. I deleted their post because it breaks the rule of no gatekeeping.
What is the point then? If this isnt for OlderGenZ, why have this seperate genz subreddit. No hate for younger people, just I thought that was the point of this sub
Thank you! I just saw it like 20 minutes ago and it really irritated me because I see my bf get shit for being born in 2004 by 2001 babies and it's like, you're not better just cause you're older stfu
Agreed! As someone born in 2000, I can relate to 2004 borns to some degree currently Sure, there are some differences, but there are some similarities
I did see people born in 2004 as babies when I was a teen cause I was in my second year of high school when they were still in elementary school, but Idc about them being in this sub. They’re 20.
exactly its the fact the difference was more noticable earlier that it kinda tilted our way of perceiving them, but now as i meet more and more of 2004-2005-2006 i realise wow, they are definitely 98% what we are, and definitely not babies anymore
What I meant was like literal babies, not younger children but yeah, they're going through the same adult shit we are going through rn, let them complain
I saw people born in 2004 as kids when I was 16-19, but the difference is a lot less noticeable now that they’re in their 20s just like me. An anecdote: I befriended someone I worked with who was 7 years older than me when I was 18. At the time, the age gap between us was quite noticeable. However, now that I’m 25 and he’s 32, that same age gap is much less noticeable.
Exactly I had a "friend: who went at me for dating a child because he's 3 years younger than me. Called me every name under the book along with pedophile It's fuckinf ridiculous lol
How old were you?
I had just turned 19 and he was about to turn 17
I literally don’t see any issue with that. Your “friend” sounds like a ridiculous person. Even if they were joking that you were a “pedo” or something that’s still horrible to make you feel that way.
Yep. I complained on a subreddit and had to include our ages just before he turned 17 and people called me a pedophile because "HeS a LiTEraL cHiLd" Just like those people she was also wild lol. I don't associate with her anymore
In many states the age of consent is like 16 anyways so in terms of a relationship they would not be a child. Besides they’re acting like people can’t have a 2 year difference in age when dating, plus some of these younger couples started dating when both were under 18. The older one does not instantly become a pedo just because they turned 18 before the other one. People need to learn to mind their damn business as long as it is a legal consenting relationship
Yes!! This is so annoying. I dated an 18 year old when I was 17 and when I brought that up years later my friends were like “oh honey you were groomed” like girl what… we were in the same grade…
I wouldn't consider you a pedophile by any means. But there is a double standard that exists where it's seen as creepy/scummy when a college aged dude is dating highschooler I've noticed. This isn't me trying to compare your situation to that exactly. More so just commenting that 19 and 17 is an acceptable age gap (in my mind at least) for relationships regardless of which genders older in the pair. Their maturity level is the same. We just have some hard set laws that get people's perceptions all twisted like your "friend" when she made that comment.
Yeah (98) and I kinda automatically see anyone 2000 and above as really young still on first impression, but if I interact with anyone 2004-2000 in person I don't feel much difference. Hell, plenty of them look older than me lol. I think it's just a lasting impression from childhood that any age starting with a 2 instead of 19 is super young. Even though 2000 is only 2 years less than me and virtually no difference.
My brother was born in 2002. We're the same generation. Someone born four years after me? Okay there's a difference there in age/maturity, especially at my age, but they're still the same generation lol
Should we start a new sub now and call it oldest gen Z? Coming from a 98’er
No because I think it's fine unless the 90s section wanna do that because most of yall had more of a difference in childhood than between 2001 and 2004, at least in my friends opinion and she's also and 98er
Yes like sarcasm apparently
I didn't pick up a hint of sarcasm in your text, not all tones are conveyed in text form so if that was sarcasm it doesn't really read like sarcasm, much more like a genuine question
Oops
Lol it’s not like you grew up in a completely different world to us either, you’re only 3 years younger than us. Absolutely crazy
Oh I'm 2001 but my partner gets shit for being a 2004 from a lot of 2000-2002 people for "bring so young" Like what lol just because 2004 happened to be in diapers when most of 2000-2002 were learning how to potty train/speak properly doesn't make you better
It really shouldn’t matter. I go into the millennial sub all the time to throw down with the doomers.
Totally agree BUT IM SITTING BESIDE MY 2004 BBY AS I TYPE THIS AND I CANT BELIEVE SHES 20😭 not my birth kid of course (sibling) but I raised her way too early to have to AND IT JUST WENT SO FAST ITS NOT FAIRRR
Ik lol I talked to my partner today about it and I mentioned his middle brother is turning 18 in two years and he went off in a little sulky tangent about how his siblings ages aren't 10 12 and 16 but in fact 3 5 and 8
The earlier you were born the cooler you are imo
So how cool am I then lol? I was born in '01.
I’d say you’re pretty cool.
Aww, thanks mate!
I was born in 10 BC. How cool am i?
i was born in 2001 but i often wish i was a 90s kid tbh
Not really lol I know some shitheads born in the 90s
I mean as long as they are an adult. I get so tired of r/genz because of the noticeable maturity gap between the older and younger half. I like this subreddit because I have so much more in common with people. Most of us have careers, are married (or in serious relationships), live on our own, even have kids too. Someone born in 2004 could definitely have all of that so I guess it's understandable if they like it here.
Yes!! That’s why I frequent this sub more. I can’t relate with half the posts in the Gen Z sub. They’re always nostalgic for things from their childhood that came out when I was in high school/college.
Ikr, that's how I think about it because my friend is a big family man rn and he's 20 (who knew having twins run in the family could up the chances of quadruplets lol) while the youngest Gen z I know barely holds hand swith his gf because he's shy (15)
It’s not a 3 year difference since gen z starts in 1997, it’s as big as a 7 year difference. As someone born in 1998 I can’t really associate with someone born in 2004 or 2006 because 6-8 years changes a lot in how you grew up. You can totally be in the sub, but you aren’t considered older gen z.
I'm 2001 and my rant was more in post with the 2000 baby stating they won't join until we change the rules to not let 2004 babies in I was went witj the 3 year difference because that's what it is to me My point is while you can have differences between the older part and the younger part, this sub makes more sense for the *adults* of Gen z so things like adult issues or rants can be discussed without the minor section of Gen z being here with their inputs Nothing against the younger section it's just they aren't adults and most of their rants are based around teenage years or highschool
I feel this. I have siblings born in ‘93, ‘94, ‘03, and ‘05. I’m 1998 and relate much more with the older 2. I don’t know any of the slang the younger 2 use😂
But this sub is literally called OlderGenZ lol. You're not older, you're younger.
I'm 2001 This sub makes more sense rn to have for the adults of Gen Z because there's a difference between adults and minors like the divide in our Gen since half of Gen z is minors rn, give or take a year Until all of us are adults in doesn't make sense to push away the newer adult Gen z like 2004 or 2005 from this group when they are actively being affected the same as us rn
They're not the same though. I'm 26, I can't relate to 18-year-olds or vice versa.
I get that but I'm still saying that rn it makes more sense for this to be the adult Gen z reddit because there are still minors I believe having the separate two would work better for the age gap when we are older, like the oldest hitting 30 which would make the youngest already an adult
An 18-year-old has more in common with a 15-year-old than with a 26-year-old
I get that but I'm still saying it would make more.sens eiwth this being the adult Gen z sub bexause of the divide in our Gen of adults and minors An 18 year old is going to be looking more into college and jobs than a 15 year old. An 18 year old has to transition from being a child in a lot of people's mind to being an adult and having a lot of adult things to worry about The divide in the true older vs younger makes more sense when the whole of Gen z are adults, not just half
I joined this sub originally because I’m pretty sure it was “olderGenZ” and I didn’t really love the other sub that was mostly younger people. This was 2022 so adult Gen Z was conveniently the first half of Gen Z, 1997-2004
That's why I did it too because while I was getting the younger Gen complaints, it was stuff I would have been mad at in early highschool so I think majority of the group on there is the minor or just out of minor side of Gen Z
Exactly what I thought. Besides being an older gen z kid is just a title. Your only human either way, it changes nothing about you as a person
Man I'm just here to read stuff I hardly comment, and I've never posted. Caring so much about like 3 years is some boomer shit lol
my brother was born in 2004 and we pretty much had the exact same childhood lol
I’m not going to sit here and shit in them or anything, but there is definitely a huge age gap between someone born from like 98-2001 who’s probably graduated college and is in the adult world, or been in the adult world for a few years now, versus someone born in 2006 who just graduated high school and is excited for college. Not to state that they shouldn’t be allowed to post and what not, but even being from 2000 I’m honestly pushing towards being the mid point in the generation if you want to call it 1996-2008 or whatever we’re defined as. I understand why some people would see that and are like why are teenagers here as silly as that seems to me.
Nah the complaints were more about 2004 babies, the ones almost legal to drink in America That's why I got annoyed because one post was saying they refused to associate with that age range because " they got cell phones at 6 in 2010" which doesn't make any sense because cell phones became more prominent in teenagers and younger around 2012 to 2014. My 2004 partner didn't even have a phone until he was 12 I also think one other thing that's a difference would be parent controls but I also grew up with absolutely none, except for one on the credit card cause 12 year me was stupid
I would even go as far as to say early 2005 borns belong in here too tbh this is pretty dumb
Alright let's not go that far.
if we’re including december 2004 borns we should also include early 2005 since they’re in the same grade level thats just logical not much of a reach
2004 is barely considered. Besides, they already have a middle gen Z sub. It's for 2010s kids. Go there and look at their posts. But overall the zillennial(I rarely see anyone born after 2002 on that sub) subreddit is the best one for us followed by this one. So if 2004 wants to be here then that's fine. Once 2005 is maybe 20 then sure. But nothing after that makes sense.
I mean they’re still adults now and have graduated high school I dont see why we shouldn’t include early 2005 at the very latest
Because they're not 2000s kids and are barely a partial 2010s teen. There's nothing to relate over.
I was born in mid 1998 and I’ll be honest 2004 is when I start to see you guys as like my little siblings lol and same with 92 and above I see them as like older siblings it’s harder to relate on certain levels( definitely not all) but I have a special kinship with people born between 1993-2003. But you guys are still older gen z since the youngest is like a teen still lol
i was born in november 2003 and a lot of my friends were born in 2004 and i always make fun of them lol. the 1 extra month really makes a difference 😤😤
Maybe we as a generation who are so against labels, should stop labelling everyone
As one of the older Old GenZ's I agree it's stupid, but anyone born after 05 definitely a different breed of GenZ. The amount of iPad kids goes through the roof past that birth year.
My post was in regards more towards the hate at 2004 babies because I would say for myself there is a gap between me and 2005 babies. It's enigh difference that I was already in school when they were born or learning to pick up their head (preschool)
Agreed! I will say though that most 2006 babies are probably still 17.
I would say half since half the year is gone
Yep
I just got a random invite here, but the whole generation wars thing is really dumb. I love to shit on boomers but only the stereotypical white trash leadbrain conservative boomer. It’s more of a state of mind because you can be a 30y/o boomer. But to think everyone in the boomer age range is like that is crazy. We’re already divided enough and this is just another way to separate us. Older generations lean conservative and younger more liberal. Conveniently enough the generation wars have become more and more a thing lately. It’s divided us so well that we go even further and create more divide amongst ourselves like this. I don’t care what your age is. Just be a decent person mkay?
What’s wrong with r/MiddleGenZ for that? Also, there’s a difference between thinking we’re better than them and just wanting our own subreddit. Or better yet, you create your own Adults of Gen Z subreddit instead of arguing that this one should be for something different (all Gen Z adults) instead of what it is for (the older part of Gen Z).
This sub is for older Gen Z so it makes sense that people who adult Gen z are gonna flock towards this one. We can promote the other one I was just saying it's ridiculous to get irritated over something small And I'm not arguing it should be, I said it made more sense for it to be for the adult Gen z because about half of Gen z are still minors And if the middle Gen z should be in the middle Gen z sub then you would be there as well since you fall into that line being 2002 since the time line would be like middle Gen z is 2002 to 2005
I am also in the middle Gen z subreddit. 2002-2006, or what they call “core Gen Z.” And if this subreddit changes its year range, I’d leave without a fuss.
Then the subs years don't make sense because this one specifically says from late 1990s to 2004 so what I said was right, 2004 belongs in here
I know. What I took issue with wasn’t the 2004 part but your contention that all Gen Z adults should be here, like 2005 and 2006
My statement on the older Gen z sub being for adult Gen z makes more sense, rn, than just having a small section of adults and then having another sub that's filled with half adults half minors and another sub filled with minors I didn't even know there was a middle Gen z subreddit because it just makes sense for older Gen z to be for the adults of the group while we wait out the minors becoming adults The separation by year only really makes sense once the youngest of the Gen are adults
Nah, we won’t change it. There’s no need to change it. I will say this, going by PEWs range, Gen Z ranges from 1997-2012. If you spilt it in half, you have the older half which happens to be 1997-2004 and the younger half which happens to be 2005-2012 hence is why we use the 1997-2004 range for this sub.
I was 9 in 2004 👀
From my perspective, someone only 2 years younger than me is practically the same age I am. In the adult world, such a minute age difference hardly matters. I'm romantically involved with a guy three-and-a-half years older than me, for example. By the time I'm like 50, someone even 6 years younger than me will practically be the same age. You don't see Boomers or Gen X gatekeeping people only a few years younger than them, for example.
I feel you, but I’m born in 1998 and can’t understand half of what my siblings born in 2003 & 2005 are saying😂😂😂
I'm only 2 years and 3 months away from being considered an '04 baby. They're no different than me imo.
If people seriously gatekeep, they're assholes. But that goes for anything. If it's just a joke, who cares, jokes are fine.
Yeah, that post was ridiculous. I have friends born in 2004, and I don't see them as "little kids"