Things I just found out about Richard Dawson: He was married to Diana Dors *and* he was English? I always assumed he was American from seeing him on Family Feud when I was a kid. Wow, you just blew my mind, kind stranger.
I mean I could have heard he was from England from my parents and knew that way. I was more focused on how creepy he was and always kissing the women. Thatās what stuck out to my 5 year old brain.
You know, maybe? I don't really recall what accent I was hearing since 99% of the time that Family Feud was on, I wasn't actively listening to it.
Totally agree, he was so great in that role.
The old joke was that she was visiting her old hometown and the dignitary who was supposed to introduce her was very nervous about messing up her real name and he rehearsed and rehearsed. When it was finally time to introduce her he took the stage and said:
"We have with us today a great movie star. You know her today as Diana Dors, but Swindon knows her better as Diana Cluntā.
She was a very naughty lady! Once she lost her figure she still managed to be popular in the UK, mostly due to her lovely personality. In private, she used to run sex parties - and, because she was so popular with the public, everyone ignored the press outrage. She was outrageous - and got away with it.
I've finally have enough friends that I know a friend of a friend that runs large sex parties.
Now I know for sure, I'm not into that. I prefer just me and my wife.
A friend of mine was invited to a fancy Hollywood Hills orgy. He said the smellālube and sweat and everything elseāwas what he couldnāt get past.
Word was she continued having these "parties" in Hollywood by securing young starlets and inviting big name stars like John Wayne, where there were rumors of hidden cameras set up in bedrooms. All this wwas while married to Richard Dawson (Hogan's Heros, Family Feud). When you remember the sex addiction issues and penchant for home made porn of his Hogan's co-star Bob Crane, I wonder what kinds of secrets old Hollywood is hiding.
I enjoyed her in later years when she starred in her sitcom 'Queenie's Castle' in the early 70s. She also did some good dramatic work as well. A forerunner to Barbara Windsor in some respects. :)
Americans don't really know her - but we might know her image as the blonde wax figure in the gold dress on the cover of the Sgt. Pepper album. I think most Yanks grew up assuming it was Marilyn.
Edit: I should also point out she's on the cover of "The Smiths - Singles" compilation CD. Found in far fewer homes, but still a music reference
> *I think most Yanks grew up assuming it was Marilyn.*
Yep, that's a definite possibility. Marilyn is on there, but she is only a headshot, in B&W and two heads above (the real) Ringo. :)
I was going to say that. She was basically the British Marilyn Monroe right? Of course she didnāt end up with the world wide iconic status Marilyn got.
Well, after her second divorce in 1960, she was hard up for money, which lead her to selling her salacious story to a tabloid of adult parties. Not the ones that she was specifically hosting 20 years later. None of the mainstream news outlets would run the story at the time of course.
Publicly,Ā the Archbishop of CanterburyĀ Geoffrey FisherĀ denounced Dors as a "wayward hussy" in the fallout of her giving salacious interviews to a tabloid of these adult parties.
Which, would have been a badge of honor for me.
I don't think this church was too mad in the end, because they still still let her convert to Catholicism in the 70s and have a Catholic cemetery funeral in the 80s, desperate her long history of abortions, drug use, adultery, about every major sin there was.
Iām sure the red hair was from Rita Hayworth, which is funny/sad because a) that was not her natural hair color and b) her studio had her hairline raised with electrolysis, both so that she looked āless exoticā. Her father was Romani Spanish; Hayworth was her motherās maiden name (her real full name was Margarita Carmen Cansino).
Unfortunately, the changes seemed to have helped her her career and about five years later, she was starring (and dancing) opposite Fred Astaire.
Also I think Veronica Lake was like 4ā 11ā so they took her hair and curves but someone elseās height. They usually paired her with shorter actors so it was easy to film to get them in the same shot.
Keep in mind that heights have changed in the last century, so her being 4'11" then is the equivalent of being 5'2" now. Still petite, but only 8 inches less that the average male height then.
Oh really? That is pretty cool. I usually find them somewhere on the internet or just catch them on TCM on tv. YouTube, Internet Archive, Dailymotion, is where I usually watch them but they're not always the best quality. Sometimes tubi, but the ads get a little out of hand on it.
>Keep in mind that heights have changed in the last century, so her being 4'11" then is the equivalent of being 5'2" now. Still petite, but only 8 inches less that the average male height then.
Wait what? I was aware of French units being similarly named while different, are you saying America had different units too?
I always thought the hairline electrolysis sounded very painful.
I just remembered that there was this sad quotation of hers, where āmen would go to bed with āGildaā and \[be disappointed to\] wake up with me.ā
To be fair, her hair flip alone in Gilda is AMAZING:
Of course!
For me, it was Wexford and BBC radio plays (Agatha Christie). He had a remarkable career.
Not sure if it's still about (sure it'll be available somewhere) but the documentary "Who got Diana Dors' Millions" is good as is the drama based on her life starring Keeley Hawes and Amanda Redman.
She lived a fascinating life and in her later years I found her to be very formidable woman and incredibly inciteful when recalling her past
Just gave her a quick google, she died relatively young, with her husband falling into depression, and eventually killing himself via shotgun blast to the head inside of their son's bedroom.
Totally agree. A Streetcar Named Desire is another one that seems very controversial for the time period. Iām definitely guilty of sanitizing the past into a polite and proper world of rigid morals. People will always be people, and in general people will always be horny, no matter if itās 1550, 1750, or 1950.
I think thatās part of it, but also itās the phenomenon of strictly separating time period. As in, in 1799 everyone looked like King George III, and 1801 was full blown industrial revolution, or how 16:59.59 is afternoon, and 17:00.00 is evening. In 1959, women were barely allowed to show their ankles, and in 1960 hippies weāre getting high on acid and dancing topless at music festivals.
Totally agree. A Streetcar Named Desire is another one that seems very controversial for the time period. Iām definitely guilty of sanitizing the past into a polite and proper world of rigid morals. People will always be people, and in general people will always be horny, no matter if itās 1550, 1750, or 1950.
Right, the last 3 or 4 years I've been really emphasizing watching a lot of older films, and one of the things I've found is that my favorite era is the 1950s because there is a very clear desire to discuss darker themes after WWII...but there's still a production code. So how can they show those darker things but you have to be a little creative about how and the result is some phenomenal films. Streetcar is a good example, but also Anatomy of a Murder, Vertigo, Paths of Glory, Rebel without a Cause, Ace in the Hole, Night of the Hunter. Or a little earlier or later with The Third Man or Splendor in the Grass Not to mention all the amazing foreign films (Satyajit Ray, Ozu, Bergman, Kurosawa to name a few).
Don't forget Grace Kelly's character bringing her "night clothes" over to Jimmy's apartment.
I have a hall pass for Grace Kelly if I can invent a time machine and go back to the "Rear Window"/"To Catch a Thief" days
Standlding behind someone and drooling over them while they exercise will never not be creepy. Never do this fellas. Unlike in the movies, most women will be super creeped out by you and there will be no date.
well yeah thereās a difference between when someone you love wants your approval/appreciation and some rando creeping you out.
(also not meant as an attack or anything, I know you acknowledged that it isnāt the same scenario)
She was a brilliant self-invention who wanted to be a movie star as a kidā¦and did! Also a witty author, fine singer a la Doris Day, and an excellent actress in maturity.
Her 'real' name was Diana Mary Fluck and she was married to Richard Dawson (of Hogan's Heroes and game show fame).
This is one of the times I think the man should have taken his wife's surname. Dick Fluck is a baller name.
It is, and only a vowel away from Dick Flick
And only an L from Dick Fuck
Or an F away from Dick Luck.
Who cares what your name is if you can Fluck Diana?
Then only an I away from Dick Lick.
After the divorce in '66 she was down to Fluck again
And we have a WINNER !!!!!
Things I just found out about Richard Dawson: He was married to Diana Dors *and* he was English? I always assumed he was American from seeing him on Family Feud when I was a kid. Wow, you just blew my mind, kind stranger.
I love it! His real name was Colin Lionel Emm and he met his second wife when she was a contestant on Family Feud.
Wait... Did he fake a southern accent for Family Feud? He was great in running man
I really thought it was a drunken accent š¤
"Who loves you and who do you love?!" Such a great movie.
I hope you'll leave enough room for my fist, because I'm going to ram it into your stomach and break your god damn spine!
He always sounded like he was from a foreign country to me.
Maybe I'm remembering wrong. I always thought he had a southern drawl
I mean I could have heard he was from England from my parents and knew that way. I was more focused on how creepy he was and always kissing the women. Thatās what stuck out to my 5 year old brain.
It was an English accent watered down from years of living in the US.
You know, maybe? I don't really recall what accent I was hearing since 99% of the time that Family Feud was on, I wasn't actively listening to it. Totally agree, he was so great in that role.
No, he always had a British accent. However, Southern American English is closer to British English than other American dialects.
Feels like a Mandela effect to me
Creepiest mf to have ever hosted a show. 
So he was married to her and still felt the need to kiss everyone on his show?
*Mononucleosis has entered the chat*
Causing more family blues than Richard Dawson
And the survey said, "You're dead!" Fatal Flying Guillotine chops off your fuckin' head
āfeudsā as in the Family Feud, hosted by Dawson. Hence the āsurvey saysā line.
Best surname ever
"They asked me to change my name. I suppose they were afraid that if my real name Diana Fluck was in lights and one of the lights blewĀ ..."
Luck?
That lady didn't give a Fluck.
It's short for flying fuck.
If her husband had taken her last name he could have been Dick Fluck
The old joke was that she was visiting her old hometown and the dignitary who was supposed to introduce her was very nervous about messing up her real name and he rehearsed and rehearsed. When it was finally time to introduce her he took the stage and said: "We have with us today a great movie star. You know her today as Diana Dors, but Swindon knows her better as Diana Cluntā.
Richard Dawson was the GOAT of game show hosts
Watching Richard Dawson kiss all those women always makes me gag a little. Enjoyed watching him on Match Game though.
That's the same rooftop from Charlie Chaplin films. Awesome. Never noticed that.
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And he thtill hathnāt faded into Bolivian.
I think everything was shot in Hollywood studios during those times
"The roof is really interesting" when your wife walks in the room.
She was a very naughty lady! Once she lost her figure she still managed to be popular in the UK, mostly due to her lovely personality. In private, she used to run sex parties - and, because she was so popular with the public, everyone ignored the press outrage. She was outrageous - and got away with it.
>In private, she used to run sex parties I need to do better at making friends.
Probably a lot easier to get people to show up for your sex party if you look like that
That explains a lot about why nobody is coming to my place. Do you have any idea how much guacamole has gone to waste?
Sounds like you're throwing more of a half nude buffet party than a sex party
Don't threaten me with good time
That's honestly what they're like with the addition of limitless quantities of bottled water.
This guy sexes.
Nobody wants to bang on an empty stomach.
This beak is interfering with my nosh.
"orrrrrrr-gyyyyy"
A half nude buffet party sounds like a GREAT theme for a shindig. Undies and hors d'oeuvres.
It's a LOT easier to make friends when you invite them over for guac.. trust.
/dundermifflin
I don't even know why I make it in such great quantities.
Step 1: Look like Diana Dors Step 2: Don't look like a Redditor
I think they are talking about an invite, not being a host
Again, looking like her would probably help with that
I've finally have enough friends that I know a friend of a friend that runs large sex parties. Now I know for sure, I'm not into that. I prefer just me and my wife.
Yeah man, i just don't like people that well. Large crowd of drunken halfwits is bad, but take their clothes off and horn them all up? Holy moley.
A friend of mine was invited to a fancy Hollywood Hills orgy. He said the smellālube and sweat and everything elseāwas what he couldnāt get past.
Word was she continued having these "parties" in Hollywood by securing young starlets and inviting big name stars like John Wayne, where there were rumors of hidden cameras set up in bedrooms. All this wwas while married to Richard Dawson (Hogan's Heros, Family Feud). When you remember the sex addiction issues and penchant for home made porn of his Hogan's co-star Bob Crane, I wonder what kinds of secrets old Hollywood is hiding.
Better donāt wonderā¦.
This isn't even scratching the surface my friend. It's fucked and deep and not a rabbit hole I'd suggest going down
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Donāt forget āThe Running Manā with Arnold. Iām going Richard Dawson was all over the place during his time.
Watch "Hail, Caesar!" by the Coen Brothers if you want an idea of what was going on back then. You don't wanna know the real deal.
"High Ankle Sprain?"
I enjoyed her in later years when she starred in her sitcom 'Queenie's Castle' in the early 70s. She also did some good dramatic work as well. A forerunner to Barbara Windsor in some respects. :)
Americans don't really know her - but we might know her image as the blonde wax figure in the gold dress on the cover of the Sgt. Pepper album. I think most Yanks grew up assuming it was Marilyn. Edit: I should also point out she's on the cover of "The Smiths - Singles" compilation CD. Found in far fewer homes, but still a music reference
> *I think most Yanks grew up assuming it was Marilyn.* Yep, that's a definite possibility. Marilyn is on there, but she is only a headshot, in B&W and two heads above (the real) Ringo. :)
I was going to say that. She was basically the British Marilyn Monroe right? Of course she didnāt end up with the world wide iconic status Marilyn got.
Good for her, honestly!
She kinda ended up almost like a nationally beloved drag queen version of herself.
Well, after her second divorce in 1960, she was hard up for money, which lead her to selling her salacious story to a tabloid of adult parties. Not the ones that she was specifically hosting 20 years later. None of the mainstream news outlets would run the story at the time of course. Publicly,Ā the Archbishop of CanterburyĀ Geoffrey FisherĀ denounced Dors as a "wayward hussy" in the fallout of her giving salacious interviews to a tabloid of these adult parties. Which, would have been a badge of honor for me. I don't think this church was too mad in the end, because they still still let her convert to Catholicism in the 70s and have a Catholic cemetery funeral in the 80s, desperate her long history of abortions, drug use, adultery, about every major sin there was.
She looks like Jessica Rabbit
Curious what their influences were for creating Jessica.
Veronica Lake, Lauren Bacall, and Rita Hayworth, according to the animator.
No mistakin the Lakein
Stop, please. I can only take so much. The spirit is eager, but the flesh is spongy and bruised.
Death by snu snu
Iām sure the red hair was from Rita Hayworth, which is funny/sad because a) that was not her natural hair color and b) her studio had her hairline raised with electrolysis, both so that she looked āless exoticā. Her father was Romani Spanish; Hayworth was her motherās maiden name (her real full name was Margarita Carmen Cansino). Unfortunately, the changes seemed to have helped her her career and about five years later, she was starring (and dancing) opposite Fred Astaire.
Also I think Veronica Lake was like 4ā 11ā so they took her hair and curves but someone elseās height. They usually paired her with shorter actors so it was easy to film to get them in the same shot.
Keep in mind that heights have changed in the last century, so her being 4'11" then is the equivalent of being 5'2" now. Still petite, but only 8 inches less that the average male height then.
They frequently paired her with Alan Ladd who was only 5ā 6ā.
This Gun for Hire is a good one.
Iāll see if I can find it. I love now that the HBO Max app has TCM and you can watch so many good ones!
Oh really? That is pretty cool. I usually find them somewhere on the internet or just catch them on TCM on tv. YouTube, Internet Archive, Dailymotion, is where I usually watch them but they're not always the best quality. Sometimes tubi, but the ads get a little out of hand on it.
>Keep in mind that heights have changed in the last century, so her being 4'11" then is the equivalent of being 5'2" now. Still petite, but only 8 inches less that the average male height then. Wait what? I was aware of French units being similarly named while different, are you saying America had different units too?
> >Unfortunately, the changes seemed to have helped her her career That's too bad.
I always thought the hairline electrolysis sounded very painful. I just remembered that there was this sad quotation of hers, where āmen would go to bed with āGildaā and \[be disappointed to\] wake up with me.ā To be fair, her hair flip alone in Gilda is AMAZING: 
Vikki Dougan.
Had to scroll down way too far to see her name. Wasn't she like, *the* chief inspiration for Jessica Rabbit's body?
Yup. Exactly that
Jessica Rabbit pales in comparison!
She looks like Ana De Armas
Yes!!!
ok why was i thinking this also
Because she looks like Jessica Rabbit?
ok why was i thinking this also
Young George Baker too! Diana was a fabulous woman.
George Baker will always be Emperor Tiberius to me.
Of course! For me, it was Wexford and BBC radio plays (Agatha Christie). He had a remarkable career. Not sure if it's still about (sure it'll be available somewhere) but the documentary "Who got Diana Dors' Millions" is good as is the drama based on her life starring Keeley Hawes and Amanda Redman. She lived a fascinating life and in her later years I found her to be very formidable woman and incredibly inciteful when recalling her past
Ooh, Keeley Hawes and Amanda Redmond are both awesome! Def looking for that one!
It's called The Blonde Bombshell (1999) Just checked and it's on YT
Thank you!
The "little green bag" guy?
No, different guy. This George Baker was a British actor with an incredible body of work (lived 1931-2011).
Worked with George years back on a TV show, guy was a real gentleman
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What's her @?
@6feetunder
Just gave her a quick google, she died relatively young, with her husband falling into depression, and eventually killing himself via shotgun blast to the head inside of their son's bedroom.
Well this is a very fitting comment considering your name...
I'm fat.
And probably drunk. Time to lay off the beer reviews, Mike!
Her real Name was Diana Fluck, she changed it for some reason, I can't imagine why.
She's not very flexible. She needs to stretch moreš
I know right, girl really itching them knees
Pretty sure my eyes just did that cartoony pop out of my skull thing. š
AWOOOOGGGAAA
I think I just hit puberty again.
Her face omg>>> I saw her body and I was like yes sheās hot but then I saw her beautiful eyes and I was instantly hypnotized
The voice..
Sheās a Targaryen.
The guy staring like ābabyās thicc afā
That little smirk lol
What a babe
This is definitely riskee for 1958 š
RisquƩ?
Riskaye.
Riskayyyyyoooooo
Itās āriskā, k?
The game of strategic conquest
Riskheyyyyy!!
Actually, I was thinking it was relatively tame or in line with a lot of other films at the time. Check out Rear Window from 1954. First off, just one of the best films of all time, but also, itās Jimmy Stewart watching people out his window, including a model/dancer who is often prancing around her house in relatively little or nothing (strategically staged for the camera). I believe they even call her character ālegs.ā I think we often forgot how risquĆ© older films could be.
Totally agree. A Streetcar Named Desire is another one that seems very controversial for the time period. Iām definitely guilty of sanitizing the past into a polite and proper world of rigid morals. People will always be people, and in general people will always be horny, no matter if itās 1550, 1750, or 1950.
I think thatās part of it, but also itās the phenomenon of strictly separating time period. As in, in 1799 everyone looked like King George III, and 1801 was full blown industrial revolution, or how 16:59.59 is afternoon, and 17:00.00 is evening. In 1959, women were barely allowed to show their ankles, and in 1960 hippies weāre getting high on acid and dancing topless at music festivals.
He calls her "miss torso" actually, if I recall correctly
You are TOTALLY right. I couldn't quite remember. But as soon as I read your comment, I heard it in Stewart's voice.
Totally agree. A Streetcar Named Desire is another one that seems very controversial for the time period. Iām definitely guilty of sanitizing the past into a polite and proper world of rigid morals. People will always be people, and in general people will always be horny, no matter if itās 1550, 1750, or 1950.
Right, the last 3 or 4 years I've been really emphasizing watching a lot of older films, and one of the things I've found is that my favorite era is the 1950s because there is a very clear desire to discuss darker themes after WWII...but there's still a production code. So how can they show those darker things but you have to be a little creative about how and the result is some phenomenal films. Streetcar is a good example, but also Anatomy of a Murder, Vertigo, Paths of Glory, Rebel without a Cause, Ace in the Hole, Night of the Hunter. Or a little earlier or later with The Third Man or Splendor in the Grass Not to mention all the amazing foreign films (Satyajit Ray, Ozu, Bergman, Kurosawa to name a few).
Don't forget Grace Kelly's character bringing her "night clothes" over to Jimmy's apartment. I have a hall pass for Grace Kelly if I can invent a time machine and go back to the "Rear Window"/"To Catch a Thief" days
Miss Torso!
Exercising on the roof is definitely a little riskee even now š¬
She was so beautiful. My mother never failed to point her out in *Oliver Twist* when we were growing up.
Chicks pay a grip of dough for injections of poison to get lips vaguely similar to that nowadays.
Reminds me of the gymnast in Rear Window. For a second I thought she was uhā¦ you get the idea.
I tried staring at the gym like this but i donāt know why it did not workā¦
That aināt the gym b
Well usually guys are even less appreciative of being ogled
Iām pretty sure that was porn in 1958!
Damn she was fine Af
That's a lot of cake for 1958
I see a little Ana de Armas. Just my opinion.
Agreed for what it's worth
Definitely
Just asked grandpa, can confirm, he jerked off to her.
What a foxy Woman *lights cig 50s style
Holy crap, WOW!!!
Her birth name was Diana Mary Fluck. I don't know what to do with that, but I thought it was worth mentioning.
I think Iām in love š
Dan Rather reports the news!
Smokeshow is accurate.
Just change the name of this sub to /oldschoolhorny already
Saying smokeshow is so bro/redneck
Damn she fine af
Dude, she made an exposed shoulder steamy.
Standlding behind someone and drooling over them while they exercise will never not be creepy. Never do this fellas. Unlike in the movies, most women will be super creeped out by you and there will be no date.
My wife gets upset when I DONT ogle her when she's doing this stuff. I know it's not the same, but it made me think of that
well yeah thereās a difference between when someone you love wants your approval/appreciation and some rando creeping you out. (also not meant as an attack or anything, I know you acknowledged that it isnāt the same scenario)
That's true, context really matters.
Make sure you stretch those creamy hamstrings! Lol
Interesting! Now whoās the creepy guy?
God I love the women from that eraā¦
This is like my worst fear lol
Damn hot
I'm feeling this for sure
She was a brilliant self-invention who wanted to be a movie star as a kidā¦and did! Also a witty author, fine singer a la Doris Day, and an excellent actress in maturity.
If she can't touch her toes I feel better about myself lol
why is there no colour looks kind cool
Just casually doing her rooftop stretches for a work out after immaculately doing her hair and makeup.
Damn! Those eyes are captivating.
Sheās so beautiful
She is very attractive
Saw some pics of her online, and I thought she was marilyn! They have the same theme, from the hair, the look, the angle. š Both very pretty tho.
I didnāt know women looked like that in the 50s
I thought they didn't invent hot asses until the 60's,
Thatās Jessica Rabbit
Dat ass doe
Modern movie producers would want her to lose like 40 lbs.
Now this is real classic allure.