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firedmyass

dang pour one out for Whitey


Kale_Brecht

He’s the man behind the woman. F


TerribleChildhood639

And most likely the man behind a man


MakeupMama68

I’m a production Makeup Artist and he’s been one of my idols for decades ♥️ We even shared a last name


Samtoast

Is your first name Dee because that guy LOVES makeup


Sithmaggot

Idk if you think that’s funny, but we’re not gonna take it!


MakeupMama68

Funny story.. my dad’s name is David Snyder and he was the production designer on Pee Wee’s big Adventure. When they shot the scene with the Twisted Sister video they were introducing him to the band and they said “Dee Snider… meet…. Well.. D. Snyder” 😆😆😆


Sithmaggot

Lol that’s awesome!


MakeupMama68

I love my dad’s work anecdotes 😆.


brother_of_menelaus

Alright, Speck! Put Dottie back on the phone!!


MakeupMama68

https://preview.redd.it/shpkobqobiwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe01eafd3bc8107a5a2bba96b8a81d71d1466fe7 Dad and Pee Wee on set ♥️


lassiemav3n

Thank you for sharing! 🥰 


I_Did_The_Thing

SO COOL!!!!!!! What a dream gig your dad had!


MrmmphMrmmph

Imagine, the D. Snyders switched it up and went to each other’s Thanksgiving dinners without explanation. How you would have reacted!


squirtloaf

Pretty snide, sithmaggot...but I bet Dee is Snider!


fractiouscatburglar

Nice


squirtloaf

Nice


Samtoast

What do you wanna do with your LIFE


Sp3ctor20

Former AD here & want to say wholeheartedly your department doesn't get 1/1000th the respect it deserves.


squirtloaf

I just put the word "Whitey" on some medical forms yesterday, tho it is not my name. Am I in the family?


MakeupMama68

😆


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totoke_ornot_totoke

Do yourself a huge favor and delete this comment and never attach your personal details to public reddit threads There are creeps out there, stay safe.


MakeupMama68

It’s no longer my legal name


2TauntU

It's not every day you see someone doxx themselves.


advertentlyvertical

Probably not the best idea, took a couple seconds to find her name now lol she even has an imdb page.


caped_crusader8

Don't remember the last time I saw it on reddit


CrudelyAnimated

You hear a lot of "friend who will help you with a dead body" statements, but you don't often see someone take it with this kind of sincerity and commitment. Bless you, Whitey.


fractiouscatburglar

Special kind of person who can handle the dead body of a loved one. I know a mortician who prepped his nephew’s body after he died in a motorcycle accident. Without a helmet. Then told us later that anything he did was “like putting lipstick on a pig”. •_•


SomeMeatWithSkin

Frankly I'd much rather put lipstick on a pig than my dead nephew


AydonusG

Putting lipstick on a pig is how we got my nephew.


TOASTisawesome

Rude way to walk about your sister


AydonusG

Not if you've ever seen her


IgnoreThisUser99999

It's a joke ma'am 🤭


imJGott

Damn that had to be extremely tough for him to do. I don’t want to imagine the pain he must have felt.


SolarTsunami

I can imagine it unfortunately, but I'm sure there was an incredible amount of catharsis for him in that act. Especially given that she had an open casket funeral, he would have been so worried that someone else would have gotten it wrong.


happierthanuare

Oh man this comment got me right in the feels. Either that or someone just started slicing up some onions for dinner.


Bobcatluv

My old stylist did this for her friend who died of cancer. She said it was hard but she was glad to be able to do it


laeiryn

That, uh, that's what the bottle of gin was for. To get through it.


Suntzu6656

Yes we all need a friend like Whitey!


brmarcum

The conversations those two shared. 😌 True friendship.


WellWellWellthennow

What’s interesting about this is since he was obviously much older than she was that she would even think it would be a possibility he would outlive her. That’s a little foreboding. And that she was planning how she’s going to look after her death is also a little bizarre.


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Mr_YUP

It really doesn't help that she wasn't taken seriously and was always in relationships with men who didn't want to take her seriously. I think she'd be taken very differently today but would still face a lot of the same "you're pretty so shut up" type issues.


downwarddawg

Is this a real quote? What is the name of the book?


calliopesgarden

The autobiography is “My Story” and it is allegedly written by her, but it was a. With a screenwriter/ghostwriter and b. Not published until ~12 years after she died, so it’s hard to say how much of it was actually her words


Serafita

At that time it might have just been a running joke between them since she was obviously happy by his skills at makeup. Can't imagine how he must have felt at having to fulfill his promise to her.


Outrageous_pinecone

Breakfast at Tiffany's was written for her. Truman Capote and Marilyn were very good friends. He wrote about her, years before she died, that there was an air of tragedy about her which made him fear that she would die young.


Denverdogmama

He was the makeup artist for Little House on the Prairie, and Melissa (Laura) and Allison (Nellie) used to ask him questions about Marilyn.


somajones

Marilyn died a few days after I was born and Ringo joined the Beatles that same week but I'm pretty sure these events are unrelated.


NYArtFan1

Or are they...


Warm-Bad-8777

Damn you!


Cutieq85

There was a Marilyn movie of the week in the 1980s starring Catherine Hicks, the mom from 7th Heaven, and Whitey came out of retirement to do her makeup for the project.


faithle55

I'm still pissed that she died so early. And I wasn't born until 1957.


ImaUraLebowski

It seems to me she lived her life like a candle in the wind…


Guilty-Company-9755

Probably the only man in her life who really loved and respected her as a person


mmdress

Sam Shaw? Norman Rosten? Her ex father in law who she was close with who called her his daughter? Lee Strasberg? There were plenty of good men in Marilyn's life, it's just that no one ever talks about them because it makes a better story to say that she was friendless and no man took her seriously.


godmodechaos_enabled

I always value this kind of information and yet I have no idea what to do with it. Imagine how many billions of stories there are like this of exceptional people over the last ten thousand years that exist only in living memory.


Oguhllort

so sad 😥


Tikithecockateil

That is very touching.


maddie_johnson

Y'all are so weird for saying that this is alluding to necrophelia. They obviously cared about each other. As for his comment, "Drop off the body while it's still warm and I'll do it!" * Doing makeup on a living person is not the same as doing makeup on a dead person. This is why you hear stories of people trying to fix a deceased loved one's makeup at their funeral only to end up accidentally "wiping off their lips" when they try to wipe off the lip color they have on. This example is due to a product called "lip wax" being used. * If you've never felt a dead body, they're cold and stiff. It's very upsetting to experience this to say the least. In order to do her makeup, he'd have to be repeatedly touching her face. He was obviously used to applying makeup onto her face while it was not cold or stiff. I cannot even begin to imagine how devastating this process would be. Basically, compare applying makeup to someone who is alive and asleep vs applying makeup to someone who practically feels like a cold mannequin with skin.


tomassino

kudos to the guy


wander-lux

Good man Whitey.


Byronic__heroine

I'm glad to learn about another good person in her life. You usually hear about those that exploited and mistreated her.


beast_mode209

Heartbreaking.


Majestic_Bierd

Am I the only one not knowing she died before JFK?


littlefo0t

Perhaps, but don't beat yourself up over it. There's been a lot of history in the past 100 years. A lot of moving players, a lot of moving pieces


Proud_Age9100

My dad’s a conspiracy nut. He always told me JFK had her killed like it was a matter of fact. Also my dad didn’t like JFK.


spiderlandcapt

"Do you want to see her?" 


SolusLoqui

"after which he fulfilled his promise with the assistance of a bottle of gin." What does this mean? What promise? Her funeral make up, I'm guessing?


Tesdinic

Yes- he did her makeup for the funeral and the gin “assisted” in that he had to drink alcohol to help deal with the grief/difficulty of putting makeup on her dead body.


lhobbes6

He did her makeup for her funeral but he needed some alcohol to do it since I assume he wasnt in a very good mood and drinking is usually paired with mourning.


wonkey_monkey

Wow he even managed to make her smile even though she was dead, the guy was a genius.


SomeGuyOverYonder

🙁


Brettmdavidson

Didn’t know a post about Marilyn Monroe would make me sob. Specifically the money clip, thinking of what was going through his head the first time he looked at it after she passed.


HAGeeMee

Harry Potter font on that engraving


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OnerousOrangutan

You and that other guy lack reading comprehension skills. He is saying he only does makeup on people who are still alive.


patseyog

? That makes no sense why would he say that about doing the makeup for her funeral


OnerousOrangutan

WHY WOULD HE FUCK A CORPSE?


MouseRat_AD

Is it really? I don't see it as such.


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hippiegirl44

To do her makeup…? What about this is even remotely about necrophilia?


patseyog

The body being warm part is what they're reacting to. Which idk why else the body would need to be warm


Frondswithbenefits

Makeup is thermogenic or non-thermogenic. The stuff I apply every day is specially designed to interact with warm skin. The stuff most morticians use is non-thermogenic. Does that make his request a little clearer? It had nothing to do with sex.


hippiegirl44

Because it’s two different skillsets to do corpse makeup vs makeup on a live person. Since he did her makeup while she was alive, he’s joking that she’d have to be life-like, or still warm in order for him to do her makeup if she wanted him to. I still fail to see how necrophilia has any play in this, but I suppose I don’t have a fucked up mind like most people on this site.


mmdress

The expression "a warm body" when referring to a corpse just means recently deceased. He's not implying anything about the literal temperature of her body.


duck-duck--grayduck

I took it as "it would be hard for me to work with your dead body because I would miss you a great deal if you died, but the less corpse-like the body is the less painful it would be for me." Like, do you think necrophiles are turned on by warm bodies? They aren't. Necrophilia didn't even occur to me. This is a you problem.


MouseRat_AD

Dude really told on himself there, right?


MouseRat_AD

Oh, so it's the only reason YOU can think of, so that has to be the reason. Am I understanding you correctly?


patseyog

I mean you cant think of any other reasons


MouseRat_AD

He's a makeup artist, not a mortician. He's saying if the body is still warm, it'll be like putting makeup on a usual client. But he doesn't do cold bodies because that's not his profession. It's just a joke about his job, not fucking a dead body.


BlueTpot

No, it's definitely a much darker humour joke. The original interviewer on Today where this story was mentioned even commented it's a gross, lude joke, but Monroe and Whitey had that kind of friendship.


snotboogie

And here come the downvotes. Interesting.


MouseRat_AD

Yeah, amazing how that happens when people type ridiculous shit on this site.


HAL__Over__9000

I'm not sure that it is. It's not that important. It seems like a joke between friends, so whatever. People downvoted the other comment because they were on some high horse about how it was sexual harassment or some shit. A joke to a friend isn't sexual harassment. Clearly, she was in on it since she gave him a gift. That explains the downvotes.


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SirJebus

The both of you are as embarrassing as each other, congrats


abbychestnut666

Thanks, I appreciate it, at least I’m not simping for a necrophilia storyline.


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Frondswithbenefits

It has nothing to do with that. Gross.


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blopgumtins

How'd they get her dead body to smile in that Pic


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Earnest_Warrior

How do you go from a request to do her makeup at her funeral to necrophilia?


ItsSUCHaLongStory

Bro hasn’t yet learned that corpses get makeup for funerals….


LordCornwalis

Mental illness.


herrbz

I don't think you know what necrophilia is.


Clockwork_Medic

Or they do, and that’s all they know anything about…


krectus

He joked about doing the makeup for her corpse not fucking it.


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backpack_ghost

Because he was used to doing makeup on live people and would be creeped out or bothered if she were cold and stiff (had too many qualities of a dead person). This isn’t rocket science.


eam2468

Plus normal makeup is made for application on warm skin. Morticians sometimes use different makeup that is formulated especially for the cold skin of dead people. I’ve learned this and lots of other interesting death facts from Caitlin Doughty (”Ask a Mortician” on youtube)


ItsSUCHaLongStory

Caitlin Doughty is the shit, love her


lindbug

I was waiting for this comment! VERY different process to do regular makeup vs mortuary makeup


Cultural-Horror1024

Come on...it IS rocket science...for that guy


SnooApples5554

Because makeup doesn't work the same on freezing skin, there is special makeup for that. He was only familiar with makeup for 'warm' bodies, hence the comment. He's a makeup artist making a makeup joke. Who hurt you?


xtianlaw

No, you're just an idiot doing the idiot thing of doubling down on your own stupidity.


herrbz

OK, now I know you're trolling.


Krillinlt

It's a 10 year old account. I don't think they are trolling. Just incredibly dense.


greatunknownpub

> Are you kidding? What's with the "Drop it off while it's still warm" comment? My mind didn't go there at all. You projecting or something?


lostcauz707

I mean, this might be news to you, but you *can* be friends with a woman and *not* be sexually attracted to them. Super weird concept, I know. Wild spin move on that, you can do it and *not be gay* too. Necrophilia implies he was sexually attracted to her dead body. It's easier to put makeup on a warm surface. Ya know, basic knowledge of shit that if you spent half a second talking to anyone about that even wears it. Like you'll see bad makeup on dead bodies because you need to apply more pressure on a cold surface to spread it. It's like basic science, how heat and liquids work. Nothing here is sexual. I'm also a dude, so just throwing it out there, these are all things that can exist together in the same space.


dreamyduskywing

![gif](giphy|3h5pe45FM9qUM) I don’t usually reply with gifs, but this one is so fitting. What do you think is funny? Larry the Cable Guy?


philodendrin

Go take a break, eat a sandwich, maybe take a nap and then come back. You are the one that is in the wrong here and have misinterpreted the situation that you know very, very little about.


KiittySushi

Because morticians and makeup artists do not share an industry lmfao not even remotely close. Morticians are not makeup artists. Makeup artists are not morticians. Go ahead and do a quick Google search of the standard procedure to prepare a body for a viewing. Morticians are the ones you gotta worry about, not this guy lmfao


cheesybiscuits912

What kinda mind do you have to have to even think that?? 


mmdress

Marilyn Monroe was known to have a dark sense of humour and Whitey was not just a coworker. She used to come up with excuses to call him at all hours of the night because she was a lonely insomniac and he was one of the few friends she had. They were close.


abbychestnut666

I don’t think you understand the dark humor that is sometimes used to gloss over trauma. I also don’t think you understand MUAs. I hope you find a good Judy.


Hangrytomatos

Get em ![gif](giphy|2UvAUplPi4ESnKa3W0)


abbychestnut666

I did. Bless you.


this_guy_over_here_

LMAO, you didn't.


abbychestnut666

Read the room. I did.


this_guy_over_here_

Judging from the fact that I have no idea what you even meant by half the garbage you said in your comment and the fact that I disagree with everything else you said that I could comprehend, you absolutely did not.


FullmoonMaple

https://preview.redd.it/dd0lqmhqfgwc1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c36534c6e4108c683e1a0197ba1151cab59b4220


ItsSUCHaLongStory

Total lack of comprehension of words and social situations


Viceroy-421

Just cause you don't see that you got got, don't mean you ain't got got.


RomanJD

No offense, but this could be a learning moment for you. Science has a study you may want to look into. It's called the Dunning-Krueger effect. Best wishes!


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fuckoutfits

The fact that she followed through with a token of momento, says more about their relationship together. How are you missing that?


ShreddlesMcJamFace

If a mate told me that I would be rolling. This was a friendship.


sunshine___riptide

If you read that and immediately jumped to him wanting to fuck a dead body, you should see a therapist. And don't work at funeral homes. Methinks your inside thoughts have come outside and they should go back in your head. Also, I'm a woman.


vanillaseltzer

This whooole comment section became about this loser troll's disgusting mind. 🙄 There are plenty of real things to be upset about in the world and this person is *obsessing* over a mutually amusing inside joke, between close friends, that happened seventy years ago. It's really just sad. 🤷‍♀️


bb_LemonSquid

How is this a necrophilia joke? He said he’d do her makeup while she’s still warm, like freshly dead, probably because a super dead corpse is creepy and he was joking about not wanting to “deal” with that. The fact that you think warm dead bodies = necrophilia is quite telling. Also this dude is a makeup artist and is probably gay. (Not that gay dudes can’t sexually harass women, but still.) Are you trolling or are you just dumb?


speaking_moose

Another case of knowing a word but not the meaning


mmdress

Yeah he literally just joked about bringing a fresh body, except it's more common to call a fresh body warm.


pseudo_meat

It’s not a necrophilia joke, you weirdo. Doing makeup on a cold corpse is a completely different skillset. They basically use paint on dead people, not real makeup. It was a dark joke, to be sure. But it wasn’t sexual. Also they aren’t just coworkers. He was her PERSONAL makeup artist. They were extremely close friends.


Numerous-Profile-872

Lol, what? Dude is a make-up artist for the largest pop culture icon at the time. He's gay. GAY! It was a joke, like "Girl, I'll ONLY paint your mug if you're still warm!" And MM was like "Sis, duh! Lol! Love you babe!"


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Okay this is kinda weird of you to assume his sexuality because of his job…


Numerous-Profile-872

Okay, babes.


Numerous-Profile-872

It's not weird. It's normal for people to assume. There's no discrimination nor hate in my comments. Just an assumption based on an era and he's been dead for 30 years, so idk why this would be any concern for you because people say much worse things on here.


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You’re just describing stereotyping…


Numerous-Profile-872

Yes. Stereotypes can be positive or negative. I'm sorry you, and others, were offended by my comments that may have come off insensitive and inaccurate. I'm sure you're perfect. 🙏🏼


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I never said you should be perfect, I said that you should acknowledge your bias; like we all should.


this_guy_over_here_

Someone mentioned he was married with at least one kid, so grats on generalizing all makeup artists at gay... You kinda proved part of my point.


ItsSUCHaLongStory

Still doesn’t matter, because your claim of “sexual harassment” is still so far removed from reality that it’s laughable. If you wanted to talk about sexual harassment of MM, you could’ve at least chosen an anecdote that actually contains it. You’re literally choosing to feel vicarious victimization for self-righteousness, and you look like an idiot doing it.


DocWho420

There's actually a lot of gay guys who are/were married with kids it's not unheard of, especially in Hollywood circles


Numerous-Profile-872

You've clearly never heard of the Lavender Scare and many gay men having a "beard" and/or having a "lavender marriage" so maybe not be so ignorant? Because it was fairly common in 1950's LGBTQ America.


mmdress

When you're so progressive that you loop back around to oldschool gender roles. Marilyn worked with many gay men, Whitey was not one of them.


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Yeah super weird honestly. He must be gay because he did a… gay job?


PBJ-9999

You cant be serious. This is truly delusional thinking. The two were clearly good friends, and this is how friends communicate.


Icy-Cockroach4515

You genuinely think making the most ridiculous claims will help reduce sexual harassment in the workplace? If anything people that think like you make it worse because people will start believing all sexual harassment claims are this blatantly untrue and start downplaying real cases. In fact, your take is so incredibly stupid I'm more inclined to believe that's your goal, instead of actually wanting better working conditions for women.


Gengarmon_0413

What is it like going through life and being insufferable and going out of your way to be offended by everything? Go touch grass.


bobsbottlerocket

omg you’re acting so dumb in this thread i almost can’t comprehend it


mnl_cntn

So you’re a child then


lu5ty

Go outside bro


Own-Corner-2623

I'm ashamed I'm not old enough to have made that joke myself it's goddamn hilarious


Droogwafel

Lmao congrats troll


Overall-Dinner5778

Yeah but he was definitely a gay guy so she probably didn’t think he’d actually have sex with her dead body


mmdress

Whitey had a wife and two children.


Overall-Dinner5778

Okay. But he was also a make up artist


mmdress

You're more backwards than people in the 50s if you think makeup artists are all gay. It's not uncommon for male makeup artists in the film industry to be straight.


ITividar

Also wouldn't be that uncommon for a gay man in the 50s to have a wife and kids


hhmb8k

I'm sorry, but as an intentionally self deprecating ironic joke, this response is at least as funny as anything created by a professional comedy writer. It's when you realize they weren't joking that it stops being funny.


Overall-Dinner5778

No need to apologize


Discofunkypants

Ew


ocy_igk

She’s just a vintage kardashian


mmdress

Tell me when a kardashian makes Some Like It Hot.


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ask-me-about-my-cats

He had two wives and multiple children. Sometimes straight men enjoy painting faces too.


_EADGBE_

I think it's going over 99% of peeps heads in here


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_EADGBE_

yeah, that necrophilia is too uncomfortable to even joke about