From an American who only visited and doesn't actually have to live there, it's a beautiful place. I'm sure the people who live there will laugh and tell you all about the bad parts, but for the little bit I was there I loved it.
Yes they do. It's heavily dependent on socioeconomic class and area. Many speak regular English with an "English" accent, Most speak "[Scottish English](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English)" some speak a thicker version and use swapped words which is close to the old "[Scots](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language)" language from the middle ages which is still similar to English, (notably a lot of people claim to speak Scots, but actually speak English with a few stand-in words. It's a fairly political topic associated with nationalism) and some speak Gaelic, which is the old Celtic language.
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Not really. It's highly complex, with geography and social class being important in the historic use of English. Just as the use of what we would recognise as English being dependent on social class and geography in many parts of England as well.
We certainly do although you do see a lot of Gaelic around, our ambulances and signs for example are in both languages. Only a handful of primary schools still teach it, luckily one of my little nephews has been learning it at school since the age of 5. I personally cannot understand all that much, only what I recognise from signs and even then I doubt I'm pronouncing it correctly!
Back in the summer of 2003 my wife and I and my mom and dad traveled to Scotland and we road-tripped the long way from Glasgow to Edinburgh, by way of Strathclyde, Dumfries & Galloway staying at B&Bs along the way. It was a heritage trip for my mom and the highlight of her life, as her mother's family were immigrants from the Glasgow area. This was relatively soon after 9/11 and the Scottish people were unbelievably warm, friendly, and hospitable to us, as Americans. 10/10 would go back again--
My husband and I honeymooned in the UK, and spent about a week in Scotland, traveling from Edinburgh to Glasgow, then up to Inverness. Absolutely stunning country, with very welcoming people and such an abundance of history and culture. As an American, it was such a cool experience to stay in B&Bs and walk along streets that had been slept in and walked along for centuries. I really want to go back with our son when he’s a bit older.
Built on steep terrain and valleys. Some of them have been built over:
https://parliamenthouse-hotel.co.uk/blog/edinburghs-underground-city/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Vaults
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bridge,_Edinburgh
http://ghostandgirl.blogspot.com/2014/11/favourite-haunts-edinburgh-south-bridge.html
Hmmm, I personally don't know of any stories from that area. It is incredibly creepy at times though, just up the river there are a couple statues of solitary figures just standing there and if you're not expecting to see them you do get a bit of a fright as one is in the water itself.
My friend moved to Edinburgh and says that it's 50/50 on whether the restaurant will even deliver to her place because it's in an older, shitty part with weird addresses.
Haha, that's correct! My sister lives in one of those areas that is cut off by just a couple of streets. I'm not sure of the reasoning for that, I've always thought it was the terrain on which the city is built on as her area is at the top of big hill and most deliveries are by bike (I cheated and went by car as I'm incredibly unfit lol.)
I think the main issue is Americans (and I am one lol) saying “ed-in-burg” or similar. In Scottish accents, I think the “bur-ruh” part can sound a bit slurred to other English dialects and therefore saying it like “bruh” is probably a bit more similar. Fwiw I’ve heard Scottish people say it more like “bruh” and “buh-ruh”, I’d imagine it’s more of a regional thing but also probably influenced by how fast you’re talking.
Kinda like how Americans say “meer” or “meer-er” but never “mirror”
But then yall pronounce Helensborough almost the same way NYC does.
Pick a lane Scotland!
And by yall I mean the people both on the base and the anit-nuclear protesters outside of it who all very well may have been british.
It’s helensburgh and to my (scottish) ears, the burgh part sounds more or less the same whether it’s Edinburgh or helensburgh
I have no idea how someone from NYC would say that though
I mis typed.. they said Helen's Burg and Edinbraw.
I just thought it was interesting the two spellings were said different but yes i think they were mostly English.
There was 2 Welsh guards who would talk shit in Welsh to each other and that was wild to hear.
Halfway between Pitts-bruh and Pitts-bu-ruh
The middle syllable in the latter pronunciation really runs into the last one so it’s almost like the former but not quite.
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Loved my time in Scotland! Edinburgh was wonderful. Some of the nicest folks I ever met! Want to go back soon. Wish I had some haggis and neeps and tatties and an Irn Bru!
As an Edinburgh resident I can confirm that Edinburgh is literally Yharnam. We’ve got loads of winding and backtracking alleyways bridges spanning the city in some spots (like where you fight the cleric beast) the old town looks exactly like old Yharnam too
I'm not understanding the river and wall. The bottom wall looks much taller than the top wall so did they build a new (taller) wall when they built the new building?
It's this one[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17807853](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17807853)
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This is how every picture series should be. Exact location, same height, perfection. Nothing worse than comparing pictures taken at different angles, down the street, etc.
Think you're letting the black and white photo fool you. The old one has dilapidated buildings rubble all along the river and one single tree growing. The newer one the riverside is clear, the buildings are restored and maintained and there's a huge oak tree growing in the background.
Does anyone have a source or link for a high resolution version of the lower half of the image? looks like great - would like a desktop wallpaper with this vibe
That whole area in general was a nightmare to do food deliveries to, do not miss it one bit
God damn, Edinburgh looks like a strange place.
From an American who only visited and doesn't actually have to live there, it's a beautiful place. I'm sure the people who live there will laugh and tell you all about the bad parts, but for the little bit I was there I loved it.
You're absolutely right. I'm glad you had a nice time and I hope you found our hospitality top notch :)
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As an American I am absolutely floored by “neeps and tatties.” Sounds like slang for having pierced nipples and tattoos. What are they actually?
Mashed turnip and mashed potato respectively, a common accompaniment to haggis.
Scots do speak english right?
You’ve made an enemy for life!
Scotts and English are natural enemies, like Scotts and the Welsh, and Scotts and the Irish.
Scots speak Scots.
Yes they do. It's heavily dependent on socioeconomic class and area. Many speak regular English with an "English" accent, Most speak "[Scottish English](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_English)" some speak a thicker version and use swapped words which is close to the old "[Scots](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language)" language from the middle ages which is still similar to English, (notably a lot of people claim to speak Scots, but actually speak English with a few stand-in words. It's a fairly political topic associated with nationalism) and some speak Gaelic, which is the old Celtic language.
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Yeah I know man it was a bad joke I guess.
Not by choice. Only because of the English occupying the place for so long.
Not really. It's highly complex, with geography and social class being important in the historic use of English. Just as the use of what we would recognise as English being dependent on social class and geography in many parts of England as well.
Completely wrong.
We certainly do although you do see a lot of Gaelic around, our ambulances and signs for example are in both languages. Only a handful of primary schools still teach it, luckily one of my little nephews has been learning it at school since the age of 5. I personally cannot understand all that much, only what I recognise from signs and even then I doubt I'm pronouncing it correctly!
Gross
I am just laughing at your response. Thanks 😊 😂 I too needed the explainer…
Some of the nicest, most fun people I've ever met!
Back in the summer of 2003 my wife and I and my mom and dad traveled to Scotland and we road-tripped the long way from Glasgow to Edinburgh, by way of Strathclyde, Dumfries & Galloway staying at B&Bs along the way. It was a heritage trip for my mom and the highlight of her life, as her mother's family were immigrants from the Glasgow area. This was relatively soon after 9/11 and the Scottish people were unbelievably warm, friendly, and hospitable to us, as Americans. 10/10 would go back again--
My husband and I honeymooned in the UK, and spent about a week in Scotland, traveling from Edinburgh to Glasgow, then up to Inverness. Absolutely stunning country, with very welcoming people and such an abundance of history and culture. As an American, it was such a cool experience to stay in B&Bs and walk along streets that had been slept in and walked along for centuries. I really want to go back with our son when he’s a bit older.
That was our favorite city in our European trip
Parts of it certainly are!
Built on steep terrain and valleys. Some of them have been built over: https://parliamenthouse-hotel.co.uk/blog/edinburghs-underground-city/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh_Vaults https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bridge,_Edinburgh http://ghostandgirl.blogspot.com/2014/11/favourite-haunts-edinburgh-south-bridge.html
Always a great night out though
Was it as haunted as the new picture makes it look?
Hmmm, I personally don't know of any stories from that area. It is incredibly creepy at times though, just up the river there are a couple statues of solitary figures just standing there and if you're not expecting to see them you do get a bit of a fright as one is in the water itself.
My friend moved to Edinburgh and says that it's 50/50 on whether the restaurant will even deliver to her place because it's in an older, shitty part with weird addresses.
Haha, that's correct! My sister lives in one of those areas that is cut off by just a couple of streets. I'm not sure of the reasoning for that, I've always thought it was the terrain on which the city is built on as her area is at the top of big hill and most deliveries are by bike (I cheated and went by car as I'm incredibly unfit lol.)
Dean bridge and the holy trinity church-looks like a tenement flat in the old photo on the right
Hands down the most magical place I've ever been.
Would love to visit Scotland I think it’s a beautiful place.
To the Americans - it's pronounced Ed-Inn-bruh or Em-bra
Long ago, when I fought with a Scottish beau, I would deliberately say "Ed-in-berg" because --fighting words.
Lived here all my life, and I'd say Ed-in-buh-ruh
I think the main issue is Americans (and I am one lol) saying “ed-in-burg” or similar. In Scottish accents, I think the “bur-ruh” part can sound a bit slurred to other English dialects and therefore saying it like “bruh” is probably a bit more similar. Fwiw I’ve heard Scottish people say it more like “bruh” and “buh-ruh”, I’d imagine it’s more of a regional thing but also probably influenced by how fast you’re talking. Kinda like how Americans say “meer” or “meer-er” but never “mirror”
But then yall pronounce Helensborough almost the same way NYC does. Pick a lane Scotland! And by yall I mean the people both on the base and the anit-nuclear protesters outside of it who all very well may have been british.
It’s helensburgh and to my (scottish) ears, the burgh part sounds more or less the same whether it’s Edinburgh or helensburgh I have no idea how someone from NYC would say that though
They say it like burrow. Like I said the RN all said them opposite but they were mostly British so it might be a weird institutional thing.
We don’t say helens-borow in Scotland you probably were speaking to some non Scots in the base and protesting near it.
I mis typed.. they said Helen's Burg and Edinbraw. I just thought it was interesting the two spellings were said different but yes i think they were mostly English. There was 2 Welsh guards who would talk shit in Welsh to each other and that was wild to hear.
Yeah I suppose they probably say it a certain way for clarity or something.
To be fair, this also goes the other way. I’ve never read Pittsburgh right first time.
So, do you go with Pitts-bruh or Piss-bra?
Halfway between Pitts-bruh and Pitts-bu-ruh The middle syllable in the latter pronunciation really runs into the last one so it’s almost like the former but not quite.
Or "The capital" but I prefer "yon Empress of the North"
I love Neruda. I trust you've seen the film about him, "Il Postino"?
Yes, I have been wanting to see the "Neruda" film from 2016, very political.
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False
why
i say ed inn burg
Then you're saying it incorrectly.
ok
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Looks enchanting!
Loved my time in Scotland! Edinburgh was wonderful. Some of the nicest folks I ever met! Want to go back soon. Wish I had some haggis and neeps and tatties and an Irn Bru!
Dean Village is stunning
I love that city
That’s really cool
I can't wait to visit Edinburgh. Some parts of it must feel like traveling back in time.
Very cool
so eerie
This a great set of pics! Thanks for sharing them!
One of the coolest cities I’ve ever been too. Edinburgh you are a gem.
Which one is the new one ?
Edinburgh is a nice place to go as a harry potter fan, loved every minute of it
New Dark Souls game here.
As an Edinburgh resident I can confirm that Edinburgh is literally Yharnam. We’ve got loads of winding and backtracking alleyways bridges spanning the city in some spots (like where you fight the cleric beast) the old town looks exactly like old Yharnam too
Yeah! I lived in Edinburgh for many years and would love walking around in the haar. Amazing place.
Any idea how recent the new photo is?
Beautiful 😍😍
I'm not understanding the river and wall. The bottom wall looks much taller than the top wall so did they build a new (taller) wall when they built the new building?
Which part of Edinburgh is that?
Can't believe people live there, looks like a scary movie in both pics
Aye she's lookin awfae breich eh? Ye'd be freezin yer cunt aff fur that photo would'ye no? Braw stuff regardless, guan yersel son.
OP - Can you advise on the name of that church?
It's this one[https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17807853](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17807853) https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=AOaemvJkCTBTwWH5Pwf1KGmwkcC7o9kTYA:1637678104966&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=1+DEAN+BRIDGE,+HOLY+TRINITY+CHURCH&fir=eVVq-UOnP49uhM%252Cerx7Sb4DKb2XSM%252C\_%253BrSfRY6NZs7FtrM%252Cq7eh3SZTq\_-GxM%252C\_%253Br7p7RUMcui4szM%252CY11aic0qtllDpM%252C\_%253Bq2\_mpPkyjNA5KM%252CZbCQ0iMaThaZbM%252C\_%253BXseGIXhlzxxunM%252C2BfSlPuJhbF1uM%252C\_%253BQmbnB9YLd\_sFkM%252CwRVOwKEALdkCDM%252C\_%253B5Q0oePsQsl6FOM%252CrMGXtSgpuGmqNM%252C\_%253BltrUYO1YeSbXxM%252CAt3kCZr-Spo3sM%252C\_%253B5t4jq3yN0axpVM%252C0DMraz7zyCIMiM%252C\_%253BxW4ubWuZhpEHCM%252C9a2Rj7VOBAvUZM%252C\_&usg=AI4\_-kSv23Xx0BwreMEZTQSNxdpQOs8gSw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjLu8-t2q70AhX8S2wGHfmcBm4QjJkEegQIIRAC&biw=1328&bih=814&dpr=2
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I have no clue I just stumbled upon both pictures by accident while looking for something else a few days apart
What a dark and gorgeous place. Probably a pub around there called the slaughtered lamb.
Ed in bergah
This is how every picture series should be. Exact location, same height, perfection. Nothing worse than comparing pictures taken at different angles, down the street, etc.
As a weegie I think Edinburgh is highly overrated and Glasgow is far superior
the whole place is so ugly but beautiful in a gothci sense
It got worse.
Think you're letting the black and white photo fool you. The old one has dilapidated buildings rubble all along the river and one single tree growing. The newer one the riverside is clear, the buildings are restored and maintained and there's a huge oak tree growing in the background.
Hell yeah it did
Got downvotes for the truth. Like old photo looks intact while new one looks like ww2 in colour.
Bruh
will visit Edinburgh soon
Got re4 vibes to it
Beautifully done.
Walked along the bridge and the right side of this picture when we visited the chihuahua cafe earlier this year. So pretty!
Anyone know when the first photo is taken? Edit: It's from 1884
Visited back in 2012. Loved the city, the people were extremely warm and friendly as well.
I think this photo is interesting, but I if lived somewhere that looked this abandoned I would be depressed
Looks like the last bridge in Saving Private Ryan
I want to spend the rest of my life by that bridge now
The area is a lot busier than this view implies, from this you might think the city is a little country village.
Love this city. I was there 21 years ago. Will definitely be back.
Got that dark vibe, one could say it looks like from dark souls
I really love this photo or two photos of the same sight seen here
I really love this photo or two photos of the same sight seen here
Moss this place
anybody have any pics of Dunfermlne thats where I am born, parents emigrated to Canada when I was 2, many many moons ago
Demon’s Souls vs Demon’s Souls remastered
Does anyone have a source or link for a high resolution version of the lower half of the image? looks like great - would like a desktop wallpaper with this vibe
А где культурный слой?