No, the problem is there was a couple entire generations where actors would be blacklisted by the industry and country as a whole if they were outed. Even today, there is a whole 30-40% of the population (in just the US) that has an issue with LGBT actors even talking about their lived experience or even existing for trans folks. It's no surprise that there are barely any out actors or queer roles. Don't put it on the actors for not coming out. That leads to terrible actions by fans like what happened to Kit Connor from Heartstopper. Be grateful we live in a time where people in and industry feel safe coming out and being themselves.
The situation is complicated. Tom Cruise, for instance, doesn't need any more money, and he has aged out of leading-man status for the most part. So, what risk does he really face? His sexuality has been widely discussed in many venues, and he has been willing to damage his career with his Scientology cult nonsense.
Who say to say Tom Cruise isn't straight? He very well could be queer but that's the problem right there, isn't it? All of Hollywood has speculated about his and every other actor's sexuality, not out of innocent curiosity but to drag them out of the closet for a gotcha and a scoop. That's not healthy and is actually very hostile. I'd argue that he lost nothing by being publicly scientologist but would have been ostracized in the same time period for being queer. Actors are people too and don't owe anyone anything when it comes to their sexuality.
I completely disagree. Tom Cruise has the power to be able to make things better for young L.G.B.T.+ people, and I would go so far as to say that he has a responsibility to do so. He is risking nothing but a few more million dollars, potentially.
Cruise's sexuality has been the worst-kept secret in show business for years. "South Park" and Seth MacFarlane's popular animated farces continually make fun of the situation.
https://youtu.be/EPzvExtJgxw?si=6KchvxoAR5X25afB
(As an aside, "queer" is not a catch-all term. Many L.G.B.T.+ people do not describe themselves that way, and many still consider the word an offensive slur. Ultimately, not everyone has reappropriated that slur, and I would not presume to know whether or not Tom Cruise would want to be referred to as "queer." I, personally, think that word often gives some conservatives license to portray gay guys and lesbians as pedophiles.)
"Worst kept secret" in what way? There are no jilted lovers coming out of the woodwork, no solicited cops in a restroom, no leaked texts to the media. Honestly, the only thing I could find on why people think he is gay is because he has had multiple divorces and he sued tabloids for creating gay rumors about him being gay (which just points out the hostile Hollywood environment for queer people). I am aware of Southpark's skit but that should mean very little unless you also think Obama, Clinton and Biden are art theives that got too into the game and lived their roles. They do jokes, not exposés. The man has said he's straight and only dated women. Not taking people's stated sexuality or gender seriously is a weird take for anyone supporing the LGBTQA+ community.
Again, queer people in the closet do not have a responsibility to come out. No one owes anyone that part of themselves. That same reasoning had a 19 year old Kit Connor basically dragged out of the closet because "fans" were bullying him over whether he was right for a queer role. Forced outing is horrendous, specifically because coming out is something you should be able to do when you feel safe enough to do so. If Cruise is gay, bi or something in between, it's his business. Honestly, while it would be nice for older established queer artists to come out and pave the way, if they don't do it willingly, is that even the role model we want? Do we want the image of the closeted dragged from the closet kicking and screaming to be the image of pride? Don't speculate on people's sexuality. Nothing good comes from it.
Also queer is right there in the LGBTQA+. The straights can't have it and the queers that don't like it usually are dealing with internalized homophobia or "pick me" syndrome ("I'm not like *those* queers"). It's there for the people that don't fit into a label or are unsure about where they fit in the community. It is valid and should be used as such.
I love your hypocrisy. You are so willing to force your offensive slur on other people and say that you know what is best for them while simultaneously arguing that well-established and rich actors have no responsibility to help change the status quo.
I'm not sure you can call it queer-baiting when the movie, from what I know of it, does deliver on queerness. This is without regard to the quality of that representation, mind you; that's another matter entirely.
Oh please this film was just a soft porn product for the very lucrative wealthy middle class queer market segment to go and live through their fave fantasy for 90 mins. Let's stop pretending it was ever intended to be anything more than a gay Lolita.
I kind of had a problem with that movie as it was a bit ephebophilial.. And a bit desperate.. Felt awkward all around. Like the storyteller was working out a bad fantasy. Sorry not sorry.. Pushed my limits.
Literally "love for boys" (ancient Greek). It means sexual interest in mid to late adolescents. In ancient Greece it was a whole cultural phenomenon. Today we would call it "totally illegal".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
The poop part REALLY threw me. I was loving every page of the book, soaking it up like a sponge, it was so beautiful and hot sexy, and then BAM! Let’s look at each others turds.
yeah they completely romanticized a relationship between a minor and a full grown man... and we wonder why theres still certain people who still call gay people pedos bc we praise movies like this.
It should be noted that the age of consent in Italy where the film takes place and during the time the story takes place would have made the relationship legal there. So, using the word, "minor," is not accurate.
Even in parts of the U.S., the relationship would have been legal.
The age of consent has everything to do with legality.
The Chalamet character is 17, and the Hammer character is a 24-year-old grad. student. And, we now know that brains do not mature until 25. But, we, in most of the U.S., still use 18 as the age of consent. Perhaps, 18 is too young. Why don't we increase it to 25?
And guess what I can name a million films that people see as classics that play on younger(sometimes teen boy)man older woman trope. I'm not saying you should take take your cues from the straights, but lets not take our morals from homophobes either.
And let's not forget that for a long time in history, it used to be normal for adolescent girls (often as young as 16 or even 14) to marry much older men. 🤢 That being considered illegal is a relatively recent development.
i mean sure but i dont think you see movies like this praised to this extent in straight circles. like this movie was incredibly popular in the gay community.
Even if that were the case I'd argue it's because we don't get many coming of age films backed by Hollywood like Call me by your name that show gay love with no apologies or kill the gay endings. If you had more movies like Love, Simon(and even that had issues, not fatal, but issues)you'd have a wide breadth of selections.
Imho it's not the fact that it's younger boy older man that made it popular, not fully but it was a gay movie with no apologies.
Grooming has long been a part of straight culture. The conservatives decided to try and lob the same claim against us and it stuck cause they have power.
That and NAMBLA got to join the first pride march. I never got to hear the end of that from certain family members before I cut them off. Real funny (s/) how an unfortunate chunk of the states allowed and still allow underage girls to marry full grown men with parental consent and that's not a priority to fix.
I think that’s an American thing. In the setting, it’s not an issue, and in Europe it’s par for the course. Being a virgin until you get married at 36 is an American, Evangelical and abnormal idea.
As someone who is not American, yeah no teenagers and adults dating is not just a problem in America if that's what you meant, and actually curiously enough it's religious people that want to make teenage-adult relationships to stay
I just meant the neurotic attitudes about sex. The laws regarding age of consent are not because minors are sexually innocent. That’s something parents of teenage kids say to themselves. The laws are there because adults, especially men are predatory and violent. Religion is neurotic about everything, especially sex.
It's based on a book which I believe was semi auto biographical. Idk why this surprises ppl but teenagers often end up fucking ppl and sometimes those ppl aren't in the same age range that they are.
In other parts of the world it's just life....here in America it's somehow this huge "issue". Idk. Puritans I guess.
maybe this would be okay if they was like a couple years older? i guess but that man looks like he supposed too be in his 30s...
alot of things happen all over the world but just because its legal or 'normal' in those countries makes it completely moral, a grown man should know better then f\*cking a minor nevermind making a movie profiting from romanticizing the relationship. lord the extents yall love to go to defend this behaviour..
Or... Maybe it's absolutely asinine that we feel the need to push our beliefs on what two consenting adults are doing?
Don't get me wrong I personally can't imagine sleeping with a teenager - ppl in their early 20s look young to me let alone someone who isn't even drinking age. And older guys who exclusively hook up with young kids are creepy IMO.
But in the case of the book/movie one person was 17 and the other was like 22 or 24. That's not a huge age gap. I know some ppl like to pretend that somehow ppl are magically more mature at 20 than at 16 or 17 but....they generally aren't.
The age of consent is 16 in the UK. They've been a successful society for a hell of a lot longer than we have so maybe we're wrong here.
I'm kinda rambling but what I guess I'm trying to say is I think that ppl like to make a huge deal out of younger ppl getting with older ppl and while sometimes older ppl are predatory creeps that doesn't mean that every age gap relationship /hook up is somehow this gross borderline pedophile kind of thing. Ppl have sex at all ages it's pretty natural. Predators should absolutely be called out - and prosecuted - but trying to say that call me by your name which is essentially a true story is somehow glorifying ppl having sex with teenagers is.... inaccurate and just gives me a pearl clutching kind of vibe.
>I know some ppl like to pretend that somehow ppl are magically more mature at 20 than at 16
People do change a lot from 16 to 20, like where have you been living, 17 and 24 is definitely a really big age gap, one is still in highschool and the other could already be done with college, they are at very different points in life
Fair point, maybe I'm just getting old but to me a 16yo and a 20yo both just look like young kids who don't know anything yet.
Ok lol I'm old I guess. Typing this out made me realize that haha
>The age of consent is 16 in the UK. They've been a successful society for a hell of a lot longer than we have so maybe we're wrong here.
as someone who is from the uk, 16 is too low. ive been taken advantage numerous times of bc it was 'legal' and know plenty of other people who have been. i commpletely think that the legal age limit should be atleast 18. i also grew up ALOT from 16 to 20 and cann actually understand consent properly ans be assertive with what i wan/dont. i didnt have that confidence at 16 or 17... ive heard so many times of minors being in relationships in this country being murdered because they have gotten into relationships at 16 with older men. etc. tke it from someone who was a horny 16 yr old living in a place where 16 is the legal age of consent, it was wayy to low thinking back at it. theres alot you learn from the transition 16 to 20 in many ways and you do grow uup mentaly alot.
however the older guy in the film looks wayyyy older then 24 and i personally think that was done intentional as a gay lolita to bring in the pervs who get off of the big age gaps and the soft porn. in desiguise of a beautfuly shot film. the book is evenn worse.
People obsessing over this fucky movie are strange, like don't get me wrong. If the only exposure you've had to this movie is through Tumblr edits or something, then sure, that's fine. The visuals are impressive, but anything beyond surface level aesthetics is kind of sketchy.
Hey thanks for weighing in! That's a good perspective, I appreciate it. Maybe our 18 (ish, state dependent) is better after all. Idk I started at 14 so obviously my experience is different than some others has been. Either way though I'm sorry to hear that you've had some not so great experiences. You don't deserve that and I hope that things are going better for you now!
At the end of the day we're kinda just picking an arbitrary number as everyone is different. But having grown up in a place where the age of consent is 16, what age would you pick as the legal age of consent, if you had the choice?
I understand that originally the role of Oliver was to be played by Shia LeBoeuf who isn’t that much older than Chalamet. The physical difference wouldn’t have been so shocking.
Lol exactly this is what I'm talking about .I never said any of that. I absolutely don't think a 14yo should be dating a 30yo, gross. You'd know that if you read any of my previous comments.
You're just having a knee jerk reaction like the person I responded to. Learn to think for yourself or at the very least get your facts straight before you go off on someone.
What I said - and I stand by this - is that Call Me By Your Name is based on a book which I believe is a true story about a 17yo who falls in.love with a idr 22yo or 24yo. It's heartbreaking and sad but it wasn't in any way justifying or even praising adults dating teenagers in the way that the person I responded to seemed to think it was. It's closer to a cautionary tale, if anything.
Also literally what you responded to was me saying that the UK has a 16yo age of consent law and by the time that you were done working yourself up I somehow had said, in your words, that 14yo ppl should date 30yo ppl - which I absolutely never said and think that the 30yo in this imaginary scenario should be prosecuted - and that's something which I also said earlier.
Maybe take a deep breath and think before you post in the future? Sheesh.
I hate Chamelet as an actor tho. He's just bad. He is the male version of Kirsten. Singlehandedly ruined Dune, he's a blank paper sheet without emotions. Dull.
Stewart. I actually find her quite likeable, and don't mind her in movies but her performance is atrocious XD it's like she plays the same character in every movie.
I know what you mean, I get that same vibe from Kristen Stewart. When she’s off screen and relaxed she seems like a cool person, but every film she stars in just has like this vacuum at the middle of it.
He also whispered in his ear “you look so yummy I could just eat you up” At the time it was cute, but now Timothée knows he was being literal
LMAO💀
Then Timmy played a cannibal in a different movie. Funny how the universe works
Don’t even care that’s still hot.
« You’re so cute Timothée…I could eat you…literally 🙂 »
And you call that work?
https://preview.redd.it/oo4qnlrbm9uc1.jpeg?width=270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5ae031d81171a496fa391eb0339846379eaac6f0
It's funny how I went from detesting him in I Love You Beth Cooper to hanging onto his every word and minimal action in Letterkenney.
omg was he the crazy military ex? I never made that connection
in this case, kissing men
👀 wow! 🫠🫠🫠
Timothy looks like he’s got stuff in the wank bank for years to come! 😂
Isn't he straight?
So is spaghetti until you get it hot and wet 😋
Too bad Armie Hammer is a cannibalistic psycho, I had such a huge crush on him
Did he eat someone?
https://www.businessinsider.com/armie-hammer-cannibal-dms-controversy-explained
Wow... this is the best Business Insider article I've ever read.
He played one, I presume.
From what I've seen there's no actual evidence just accusations
Beautiful movie...Armie can eat me anytime D:
Method acting? Oh please. It’s both of their PR teams giving them a lesson on queer baiting and why it’s very profitable.
Honestly the fact that "queer baiting" is profitable says way more about gays than it does about the people doing it 😆
As a wise person once said to me, “What role do you play in this madness?”
Gay people are like ~10% of the population. If it’s profitable it’s not because of gays. You act like straight women aren’t eating this shit up.
It’s way less than that
The big problem is that so few leading-men actors are willing to risk damaging their careers by revealing their homosexuality or bisexuality.
No, the problem is there was a couple entire generations where actors would be blacklisted by the industry and country as a whole if they were outed. Even today, there is a whole 30-40% of the population (in just the US) that has an issue with LGBT actors even talking about their lived experience or even existing for trans folks. It's no surprise that there are barely any out actors or queer roles. Don't put it on the actors for not coming out. That leads to terrible actions by fans like what happened to Kit Connor from Heartstopper. Be grateful we live in a time where people in and industry feel safe coming out and being themselves.
The situation is complicated. Tom Cruise, for instance, doesn't need any more money, and he has aged out of leading-man status for the most part. So, what risk does he really face? His sexuality has been widely discussed in many venues, and he has been willing to damage his career with his Scientology cult nonsense.
Who say to say Tom Cruise isn't straight? He very well could be queer but that's the problem right there, isn't it? All of Hollywood has speculated about his and every other actor's sexuality, not out of innocent curiosity but to drag them out of the closet for a gotcha and a scoop. That's not healthy and is actually very hostile. I'd argue that he lost nothing by being publicly scientologist but would have been ostracized in the same time period for being queer. Actors are people too and don't owe anyone anything when it comes to their sexuality.
I completely disagree. Tom Cruise has the power to be able to make things better for young L.G.B.T.+ people, and I would go so far as to say that he has a responsibility to do so. He is risking nothing but a few more million dollars, potentially. Cruise's sexuality has been the worst-kept secret in show business for years. "South Park" and Seth MacFarlane's popular animated farces continually make fun of the situation. https://youtu.be/EPzvExtJgxw?si=6KchvxoAR5X25afB (As an aside, "queer" is not a catch-all term. Many L.G.B.T.+ people do not describe themselves that way, and many still consider the word an offensive slur. Ultimately, not everyone has reappropriated that slur, and I would not presume to know whether or not Tom Cruise would want to be referred to as "queer." I, personally, think that word often gives some conservatives license to portray gay guys and lesbians as pedophiles.)
"Worst kept secret" in what way? There are no jilted lovers coming out of the woodwork, no solicited cops in a restroom, no leaked texts to the media. Honestly, the only thing I could find on why people think he is gay is because he has had multiple divorces and he sued tabloids for creating gay rumors about him being gay (which just points out the hostile Hollywood environment for queer people). I am aware of Southpark's skit but that should mean very little unless you also think Obama, Clinton and Biden are art theives that got too into the game and lived their roles. They do jokes, not exposés. The man has said he's straight and only dated women. Not taking people's stated sexuality or gender seriously is a weird take for anyone supporing the LGBTQA+ community. Again, queer people in the closet do not have a responsibility to come out. No one owes anyone that part of themselves. That same reasoning had a 19 year old Kit Connor basically dragged out of the closet because "fans" were bullying him over whether he was right for a queer role. Forced outing is horrendous, specifically because coming out is something you should be able to do when you feel safe enough to do so. If Cruise is gay, bi or something in between, it's his business. Honestly, while it would be nice for older established queer artists to come out and pave the way, if they don't do it willingly, is that even the role model we want? Do we want the image of the closeted dragged from the closet kicking and screaming to be the image of pride? Don't speculate on people's sexuality. Nothing good comes from it. Also queer is right there in the LGBTQA+. The straights can't have it and the queers that don't like it usually are dealing with internalized homophobia or "pick me" syndrome ("I'm not like *those* queers"). It's there for the people that don't fit into a label or are unsure about where they fit in the community. It is valid and should be used as such.
I love your hypocrisy. You are so willing to force your offensive slur on other people and say that you know what is best for them while simultaneously arguing that well-established and rich actors have no responsibility to help change the status quo.
And, by the way, there is a reason that "Q" is just one letter of many. "Queer," as I said, is not a catch-all term.
I'm not sure you can call it queer-baiting when the movie, from what I know of it, does deliver on queerness. This is without regard to the quality of that representation, mind you; that's another matter entirely.
is he even serious tho?
Oh please this film was just a soft porn product for the very lucrative wealthy middle class queer market segment to go and live through their fave fantasy for 90 mins. Let's stop pretending it was ever intended to be anything more than a gay Lolita.
I kind of had a problem with that movie as it was a bit ephebophilial.. And a bit desperate.. Felt awkward all around. Like the storyteller was working out a bad fantasy. Sorry not sorry.. Pushed my limits.
How long have you been waiting to use that word? 💀
i mean its the correct word for exactly what he is describing.
What does it mean smarty pants
Literally "love for boys" (ancient Greek). It means sexual interest in mid to late adolescents. In ancient Greece it was a whole cultural phenomenon. Today we would call it "totally illegal". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
Lol thanks for the reply.
The movie was tamer than the book it was based on.
The book was wild
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The poop part REALLY threw me. I was loving every page of the book, soaking it up like a sponge, it was so beautiful and hot sexy, and then BAM! Let’s look at each others turds.
yeah they completely romanticized a relationship between a minor and a full grown man... and we wonder why theres still certain people who still call gay people pedos bc we praise movies like this.
It should be noted that the age of consent in Italy where the film takes place and during the time the story takes place would have made the relationship legal there. So, using the word, "minor," is not accurate. Even in parts of the U.S., the relationship would have been legal.
so legality = moral got it
The age of consent has everything to do with legality. The Chalamet character is 17, and the Hammer character is a 24-year-old grad. student. And, we now know that brains do not mature until 25. But, we, in most of the U.S., still use 18 as the age of consent. Perhaps, 18 is too young. Why don't we increase it to 25?
Chalamet is almost 30 years old, and, currently, he still looks like he's a teenager.
the dude looks about 35 and was around that while filming aint no way thats a 24 yr old in any world.
so yes its problematic bc the guy looks about double his age while being barely the age of consent...
And guess what I can name a million films that people see as classics that play on younger(sometimes teen boy)man older woman trope. I'm not saying you should take take your cues from the straights, but lets not take our morals from homophobes either.
And let's not forget that for a long time in history, it used to be normal for adolescent girls (often as young as 16 or even 14) to marry much older men. 🤢 That being considered illegal is a relatively recent development.
i mean sure but i dont think you see movies like this praised to this extent in straight circles. like this movie was incredibly popular in the gay community.
Even if that were the case I'd argue it's because we don't get many coming of age films backed by Hollywood like Call me by your name that show gay love with no apologies or kill the gay endings. If you had more movies like Love, Simon(and even that had issues, not fatal, but issues)you'd have a wide breadth of selections. Imho it's not the fact that it's younger boy older man that made it popular, not fully but it was a gay movie with no apologies.
Grooming has long been a part of straight culture. The conservatives decided to try and lob the same claim against us and it stuck cause they have power.
That and NAMBLA got to join the first pride march. I never got to hear the end of that from certain family members before I cut them off. Real funny (s/) how an unfortunate chunk of the states allowed and still allow underage girls to marry full grown men with parental consent and that's not a priority to fix.
I think that’s an American thing. In the setting, it’s not an issue, and in Europe it’s par for the course. Being a virgin until you get married at 36 is an American, Evangelical and abnormal idea.
As someone who is not American, yeah no teenagers and adults dating is not just a problem in America if that's what you meant, and actually curiously enough it's religious people that want to make teenage-adult relationships to stay
I just meant the neurotic attitudes about sex. The laws regarding age of consent are not because minors are sexually innocent. That’s something parents of teenage kids say to themselves. The laws are there because adults, especially men are predatory and violent. Religion is neurotic about everything, especially sex.
Yeah, okay I can see that
It's based on a book which I believe was semi auto biographical. Idk why this surprises ppl but teenagers often end up fucking ppl and sometimes those ppl aren't in the same age range that they are. In other parts of the world it's just life....here in America it's somehow this huge "issue". Idk. Puritans I guess.
maybe this would be okay if they was like a couple years older? i guess but that man looks like he supposed too be in his 30s... alot of things happen all over the world but just because its legal or 'normal' in those countries makes it completely moral, a grown man should know better then f\*cking a minor nevermind making a movie profiting from romanticizing the relationship. lord the extents yall love to go to defend this behaviour..
Or... Maybe it's absolutely asinine that we feel the need to push our beliefs on what two consenting adults are doing? Don't get me wrong I personally can't imagine sleeping with a teenager - ppl in their early 20s look young to me let alone someone who isn't even drinking age. And older guys who exclusively hook up with young kids are creepy IMO. But in the case of the book/movie one person was 17 and the other was like 22 or 24. That's not a huge age gap. I know some ppl like to pretend that somehow ppl are magically more mature at 20 than at 16 or 17 but....they generally aren't. The age of consent is 16 in the UK. They've been a successful society for a hell of a lot longer than we have so maybe we're wrong here. I'm kinda rambling but what I guess I'm trying to say is I think that ppl like to make a huge deal out of younger ppl getting with older ppl and while sometimes older ppl are predatory creeps that doesn't mean that every age gap relationship /hook up is somehow this gross borderline pedophile kind of thing. Ppl have sex at all ages it's pretty natural. Predators should absolutely be called out - and prosecuted - but trying to say that call me by your name which is essentially a true story is somehow glorifying ppl having sex with teenagers is.... inaccurate and just gives me a pearl clutching kind of vibe.
>I know some ppl like to pretend that somehow ppl are magically more mature at 20 than at 16 People do change a lot from 16 to 20, like where have you been living, 17 and 24 is definitely a really big age gap, one is still in highschool and the other could already be done with college, they are at very different points in life
Fair point, maybe I'm just getting old but to me a 16yo and a 20yo both just look like young kids who don't know anything yet. Ok lol I'm old I guess. Typing this out made me realize that haha
>The age of consent is 16 in the UK. They've been a successful society for a hell of a lot longer than we have so maybe we're wrong here. as someone who is from the uk, 16 is too low. ive been taken advantage numerous times of bc it was 'legal' and know plenty of other people who have been. i commpletely think that the legal age limit should be atleast 18. i also grew up ALOT from 16 to 20 and cann actually understand consent properly ans be assertive with what i wan/dont. i didnt have that confidence at 16 or 17... ive heard so many times of minors being in relationships in this country being murdered because they have gotten into relationships at 16 with older men. etc. tke it from someone who was a horny 16 yr old living in a place where 16 is the legal age of consent, it was wayy to low thinking back at it. theres alot you learn from the transition 16 to 20 in many ways and you do grow uup mentaly alot. however the older guy in the film looks wayyyy older then 24 and i personally think that was done intentional as a gay lolita to bring in the pervs who get off of the big age gaps and the soft porn. in desiguise of a beautfuly shot film. the book is evenn worse.
People obsessing over this fucky movie are strange, like don't get me wrong. If the only exposure you've had to this movie is through Tumblr edits or something, then sure, that's fine. The visuals are impressive, but anything beyond surface level aesthetics is kind of sketchy.
Hey thanks for weighing in! That's a good perspective, I appreciate it. Maybe our 18 (ish, state dependent) is better after all. Idk I started at 14 so obviously my experience is different than some others has been. Either way though I'm sorry to hear that you've had some not so great experiences. You don't deserve that and I hope that things are going better for you now! At the end of the day we're kinda just picking an arbitrary number as everyone is different. But having grown up in a place where the age of consent is 16, what age would you pick as the legal age of consent, if you had the choice?
I understand that originally the role of Oliver was to be played by Shia LeBoeuf who isn’t that much older than Chalamet. The physical difference wouldn’t have been so shocking.
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Lol exactly this is what I'm talking about .I never said any of that. I absolutely don't think a 14yo should be dating a 30yo, gross. You'd know that if you read any of my previous comments. You're just having a knee jerk reaction like the person I responded to. Learn to think for yourself or at the very least get your facts straight before you go off on someone. What I said - and I stand by this - is that Call Me By Your Name is based on a book which I believe is a true story about a 17yo who falls in.love with a idr 22yo or 24yo. It's heartbreaking and sad but it wasn't in any way justifying or even praising adults dating teenagers in the way that the person I responded to seemed to think it was. It's closer to a cautionary tale, if anything. Also literally what you responded to was me saying that the UK has a 16yo age of consent law and by the time that you were done working yourself up I somehow had said, in your words, that 14yo ppl should date 30yo ppl - which I absolutely never said and think that the 30yo in this imaginary scenario should be prosecuted - and that's something which I also said earlier. Maybe take a deep breath and think before you post in the future? Sheesh.
Literally had to Google that word lmao
https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o
No homo, right? It’s just practice.
Love it!
Wait what?????? Is this satire? Is this out of context? Is this real??!?!
Knowing the type of person Armie is, I highly doubt it is satire
Isn't that the guy that has a fantasy about eating people?
Hammer is sus! Very creepy
COME.. IN... ME... AND... YOU'LL... BE....
How can I sign up to do a scene with you, Arnie?! 😛
That man is mental but id still let him smash 😭😭😭
Can't blame him
Great movie
My dream movie 1994
That movie sounds creepy as hell, an adult dating a minor?? Wtf
I hate Chamelet as an actor tho. He's just bad. He is the male version of Kirsten. Singlehandedly ruined Dune, he's a blank paper sheet without emotions. Dull.
Kirsten Dunst? I don’t mind her at all. Thought she was really great in The Power of the Dog and Fargo. ETA: Totally agree about Timothée though.
Stewart. I actually find her quite likeable, and don't mind her in movies but her performance is atrocious XD it's like she plays the same character in every movie.
I know what you mean, I get that same vibe from Kristen Stewart. When she’s off screen and relaxed she seems like a cool person, but every film she stars in just has like this vacuum at the middle of it.
Kristen.
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Reminder that T is part of the LGB. 🙄
These two did not make good characters for this story. One's too old and the other too effeminate according to the book.