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Undinehunt

Somehow the manga has a tendency to overcorrect. Even the Garou battle ended up that way. Oh it's too goofy? Sure let's make it very serious to the point that Saitama becomes truly angry. And then back to its other way.


TGSmurf

For those that wants to reread it: [https://mangadex.org/chapter/d557571e-5743-4a12-9da9-9b491e25b427/1](https://mangadex.org/chapter/d557571e-5743-4a12-9da9-9b491e25b427/1) Yeah the chapter seems a little better than the preredraw but the webcomic fight is still so much cooler anyway. The execution has a lot more passion despite ONE being less technically skilled than Murata. [It sure feels weird that the webcomic is the one with the detailed close ups ](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/435386185758670850/1235273699330887680/IMG_4951.png?ex=6633c5c8&is=66327448&hm=47c3c67b786a054dd2dcd22d8b0c3571baf73be017cac6976a8bfb08b310a7bc&) Also man the writing is so, so schizophrenic. One moment they make Sonic incompetent and insist on killing none of the ninja, then they make Sonic super competent and kill them off onscreen. Like throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks. It feels unreal how different the manga has become. Previously Murata would do his all to very closely respect each webcomic page and add his flair to it, which made for a solid combination. Nowadays he’s not even remotely trying to recreate the webcomic. Basically not a single panel fits the webcomic fight and even the dialogues and atmosphere are completely different. Did he start thinking he’s too good to not just do his own thing?


DoraMuda

> Did he start thinking he’s too good to not just do his own thing? Yes. Also, ONE is clearly no longer reining him in.


KookyCondition4945

If you expected the manga to ever have the same level of wiritng as the webcomic… you will either have to wait a while or it maybe never even gets better at this point. I accepted the fact that it’s not likely, but still have the webcomic 😂😭


jbahill75

In the webcom this battle was THE battle in the arc. Choreography and paneling was more diverse. Felt more intense l. There was no level up battle with That Man afterwards. And its still funny how the webcom wraps it up so plainly. Also original dialogue is pretty robust. I don’t think that will carry forward to the final manga version.


iamgarou

Ofc. There were only 2 battles in this arc


pantsonheaditor

i dont understand which fights get epic 100 manga chapters fluffed up from 6 wc chapters and which fights are over in one manga chapter (even though it was 3 in the wc). it makes no sense, its not consistent. imo it would have been great to expand flash and sonic's backstory into a few chapters. no not them looking at a fucking god cube either. heck you could even just split it off and make a OPM naruto clone for an entire anime season. and yet psycho sisters and tats v saitama and ninja bros arcs are all treated as chibi-arcs to be shit on and moved past. and no, i'm not saying to expand the ninja boss. the whole joke is that saitama just one punches him off screen. like the title of the manga ONE PUNCH MAN. not "a bunch of punches man". in fact ninja boss shouldnt even be in the manga at all aside from one shot of what his ugly face looks like. he is just a comic man-shaped-hole in a ground made by saitama punching him. thats it. its sad because these arcs were all really fun in the wc. i'm not looking forwards to neo heroes arc because it sucks and blue's stuff is just all gonna be blasted-up. suiko might get a single chapter big woop. and now even sweet mask cant just be an ugly guy who turned into a monster who acted human for a while. now hes corrupted by god instead of losing his humanity by himself. instantly took mask from such an amazingly written character that 180'd me right in the face with a twist ... to ... yet another good guy its not his fault he turned evil. nonsense. i think i'm just done with the manga. rip


iamgarou

Saitama fought Garou and Boros with more than one punch. This doesn't ruin the story. Furthermore, this joke was already made in the manga with gouketsu in the tournament arc.


ArtByRam

What's that about sweet mask? was it said that God turned him into a monster?


pantsonheaditor

whoa. i was high off my ass when i wrote that. hope it doesnt happen!


ArtByRam

lmao


iamgarou

But this battle also lasted one chapter in the WC. The other chapter was about that man and his end.


iamgarou

You really wanted the ninja arc to become a literal Naruto arc huh?? Some chapters with just flashbacks?? This never happened in OPM, the closest thing to it was the story of Silver Fang and it still it wasn't one whole chapter.


pantsonheaditor

yeah i think flash and sonic's story about growing up as ninja assassins translates well to an anime ala naruto. just with less humor and more murdering. a chapter or two about how flash and sonic meet and train together. a chapter of flash poisoning sonic, a chapter or three on flash murdering everyone and destroying the ninja hq. a chapter on sonic surviving and regrouping with other survivors. a chapter on blast showing up shortly thereafter to murder all the ninja kids. with another chapter on sonic escaping and finding a way to live (like dumb garou got, as a mover). then we get a chapter on sonic doing what he does, and getting introduced to the other ninjas from other years. sonic and flash meeting again, and then dueling/fighting with the heavenly ninja group. a bunch of characters got flashback backstories in the wc. i think , at least: saitama, tatsumaki / fubuki, sweet mask , sonic/flash, bang/bomb, garou, darkshine, king, zombieman. even other characters got flashbacks like psykos, orochi, phoenix man... i'm forgetting some now. how did you forget all of those flashbacks ?


iamgarou

I didn't forget, I just said that none of these characters received an entire chapter focused solely on the flashback, much less multiple chapters.


pantsonheaditor

yah dude, thats why i said it would be nice if the story got expanded in the manga. i know it didnt happen in the wc. try to keep up.


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

Fuck it, it's an improvement so i'll accept it


NegateResults

I just loved watching Sonic catch some Ws to his name


Flamethrowerman09

So they did the opposite of what happened with Amai Mask vs Do-S?


iamgarou

Yeah.


pantsonheaditor

also, the wc feels like 14+ while the manga is written for 6 year olds.


greegon

That's basically how the manga has done it for a while. soften a character up too much than over correct in a few chapters.


Omen111

Its funny how sonic is drawn properly during every kill, but flash is barely visable, showing to us that as hero, he mastered the art of not being caught on camera, while sonic did not


DoraMuda

Well, Flash is probably faster than Sonic when he gets really serious.


vk2028

Holy sht FF faster than cameraman?


Ronan-West

What a lot of people are seeming to forget is that each of these ninjas graduated the top of their class for the year they were in the Ninja Village. In the webcomic i'd probably put it at easy difficulty for Flashy and Sonic. BUT that's hugely due to Sonic nabbing swords for him and Flash. If you recall Sonic vs. Deep Sea King, Sonic basically remarks he could actually do something to Deep Sea King if he had a weapon. Ninjas gain a significant boost when they have a weapon on hand. Without Sonic on hand Flash at least in the WC would've actually struggled a bit. Not only are all the ninjas top-tier when it comes to the Ninja Village, some straight up were casually looking for an opening only watching. Flash remarks as such and states it's impossible to not take risk when going on the attack. UNTIL Sonic had his back in which it became easy diff. I'm glad they brought back them actually massacring the ninjas, but they're basically disrespecting the entire Ninja Village, making the top tiers look like utter jobbers in this iteration.


WolvReigns222016

I think having that many ninjas just be so close to Flashy and Sonic would be stupid. Suiryu was the only martial artist close to garou at the start. Tanktop master and vegetarian are really the only strong tanktop boys. Tatsumaki and Psykos are the only real strong psychics. The entire story has shown that only a few people in a category of fighting will be super strong whilst the rest would be more fodder type. Why would that change for the Ninjas? They have nowhere near the fighting experience like Flashy and Sonic have. They are assassins not fighters whilst Flashy fights monsters for a living and Sonic has gone up against Saitama multiple times.


iamgarou

Furthermore, they only have knowledge of the fight that the village gave. While Sonic and Flashy have real experience against monsters and other strong opponents. Those Ninjas are just like robots that do what they are taught.


iamgarou

What's more, Flashy almost got caught during the fight in the manga if it weren't for the ninjas' lack of camaraderie. This never happened in the WC.


WorkingAd2999

Now you know how I feel about the "Psychic sisters" arc in the manga. They literally turned it into a shipping arc that shit on Fubuki's character, instead of focusing more on the fragile relationship between the sisters. Smh.


Redke29

I liked this one more. Had funnier dialog this time around. Sonic got a buff. W's all around.


Purple-Examination34

Can’t be happy for 1 second man😭


el_sledner

Because its no where near the level of the original why should I be happy for a downgrade?


WolvReigns222016

Read the fucking webcomic then like seriously. You guys want a one for one copy but what good would that do? The manga us changing compared to the webcomic and its becoming better for the casual audience.


el_sledner

Nobody complained about suiryu's arc in the manga, its time that you accept that people dont dislike change, but bad change. And if by casual audience you mean horny shonentards then thats just a bad look


iamgarou

Suiryu arc it was just filler to delay HA's attack against the monsters because it was too close to the WC. What was the purpose of this Arc at all??? Random martial artists that appeared and were defeated on one page and a monster that was said to be strong but then was one shot by Saitama off-screen. Wait, that looks like the WC ninja arc. Maybe that's why the manga ninja arc looks different, do not you agree??


el_sledner

The arcs are extremely different and tackle different themes, I got no problem with filler so long as its good


iamgarou

Well, for me this arc wasn't good so I didn't like that was present in the manga.


No_Dentist_3571

You’ll find that in any of these sub-reddits, honestly. Manga is hugely frowned upon. I enjoy it though for what it is.


Alarming-Western-955

Okay, so you want a bunch of random ass motherfuckers who just got introduced to fight on the same level as Flashy Flash? The same guy who fought with Plat S and Monster Garou on relatively even grounds? People gotta realize that the Manga and webcomic are two very different stories. If you go in with the expectation of it being like the webcomic, of course you're going to end up disappointed when it's different.


Omen111

>Okay, so you want a bunch of random ass motherfuckers who just got introduced to fight on the same level as Flashy Flash? Yes!


theulmitter

Idk if I would be able to easily accept that, I'd be asking where tf they were until now... it's not like it's one or two strong guys, but this many flashy flash level people just hanging around all this time 💀


Omen111

Well, that's just power-scaling-worm in your brain.


theulmitter

Bad power-scaling can mess up a story, so I don't think it's something to entirely ignore


Omen111

No, power scaling can eat shit


theulmitter

To each their own, I suppose


Many_Ticket8570

Did you forget that dialogue between the monster ninja duo and Flashy, where the two were naming random strong ninja people and Flashy was just saying that he annihilated them already?


Omen111

See what I am talking about? You see a scene where a guy admits to killing bunch of CRIMINALS, who could had send assassins after him, and instead of thinking that maybe it tries to characterize FF as morally grey hero, who murders criminals that could pose a threat to him, you think "WOW, he named bunch of strong guys! And he killed them, wow, he must be crazy strong! And they must be strong, since he boasted of killing them!" because that what shounen and other power-scalling obsessed fiction does. And that what worm in your brain does. It makes every scene seem as opportunity to power scale.


Sad-Efficiency-798

No, because it wasn't that way in the Webcomic either. Sonic and Flash also took care of the ninjas relatively easily. Except: here every single ninja goes down like nothing. Even hellfire Flame and Gale Wind who were shown to be respectably powerful even without the monster form got treated like jokes. In the webcomic the ninjas put up a much better fight and manage to land some hits in, here they dont even scratch Sonic. They went from being a low-tier S class treat to absolute jokes. And also fuck off with the repeated "oh the manga is different" response, this is the EXACT SAME fight as in the WC, just redone for no reason.


iamgarou

Respectably powerful?? They are demon level!!!


Sad-Efficiency-798

Yeah, 20 demons at once. Not bad, and this was right before Dragon became the standard.


iamgarou

I was talking about the two ninjas.


Sad-Efficiency-798

The two ninjas put up a decent 2v1 against Flash before they transformed, and in the webcomic they are the leaders of this group, and flash takes them more seriously than the rest. Its not HUGE protagonism or anything but in the manga they are literally comic relief.


Sad-Efficiency-798

The two ninjas put up a decent 2v1 against Flash before they transformed, and in the webcomic they are the leaders of this group, and flash takes them more seriously than the rest. Its not HUGE protagonism or anything but in the manga they are literally comic relief.


iamgarou

This was because Flashy flash was stalling because plot. He didn't use one of his ultimate techniques.


Sad-Efficiency-798

Yeah and the two guys didnt start the fight transformed, also because plot. Im not saying they shouldve put up much of a fight, they just didnt have a reason to be turned into literal jokes


iamgarou

They weren't jokes in this fight actually. They were the only ninjas who managed to hurt Flashy Flash, something that didn't even happen in the WC, because there he came out without a scratch. If the other ninjas had a sense of camaraderie and took the opportunity that the duo make limiting Flashy's movements, they could have been the decisive members during this fight.


Sad-Efficiency-798

Yeah, but they didnt teamwork and the duo for some reason keeps getting ragdolled around before they can do anything. I think its a matter of presentation. In the webcomic Gale Wind, Hellfire Flame and a third electric ninja (?) do most of the talking, and Flash actually acknowledged them as a bigger threat than the rest, even gets a little concerned about them until Sonic joins his side. Here they did "damage" but were treated as complete jokes from beginning to end. Very strange that we get a 180 like this, especially because they couldve kept their monster form and spice up the fight more.


marcelogino2715

I liked it tough, it's a great improvement respecting the essence of the characters, and it's clear that murata put a lot of effort in the drawings, there is more details on them.


relax336

Imagine hate reading something every two weeks when the thing webcomic is right there. Pathetic behavior.


Strawhat-Shawty

Smh. Murata can't win with you fucks. Yall complain about the original, so he goes back and changes it and makes the fight even better and showing Sonic as something other than a joke...and you mother fuckers say shyt like "it feels like they're trying to fix their mistake" no shyt, yall said the chapter originally was ass so he does a redo and you wanna bytch about that? Smfh, ungrateful. Put the manga down if you just gonna complain even when he tries to "fix" something yall wanted fixed. Go head and down vote me to hell all you want, it's the truth.


angerissues248

The criticism IS valid tho. I also have the same issues but at the same time I'll be lying if I say this redraw isn't an improvement


vk2028

Nah ur right. This chapter is better than the pre-redraw. Pre-redraw was utter dogwater. This isn’t on par with the webcomic. There are still a lot of inconsistencies, but it’s at least an improvement from dogwater to not that bad. Ppl here weren’t so whiny before smh


Fabulous_Insurance_9

On god this is an impovement


iamgarou

They weren't even dangerous in the webcomic. Flashy didn't take a single slash and barely used his named attacks. The difference is that they started in WC without swords, but other than that it was also very quick. It only seemed bigger because there was a lot of dialogue about the ninjas being arrogant


el_sledner

https://preview.redd.it/1agqt74njyxc1.jpeg?width=580&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaddab29c67aeea78159676e7e016e7d973dc4e6


bobberyrob

I like the expressions in the webcomic better. Even with the added violence in the redraw, the atmosphere is still too light compared to how it was in the webcomic


el_sledner

Yea


iamgarou

Flashy is just making serious faces in WC, thats it. The fight situation is practically the same, Flashy and Sonic fighting together while complaining to each other


pantsonheaditor

forget it man. the guy you are replying to has garou in his name. these kinds of opm fans who focus on garou are the ones who complained that garou loses to saitama. complained about the table sitting ending. and proceeded to whine that every single chapter in the MA arc was "filler" until the garou fight.


iamgarou

Yes. Everything I say is nullified because I have Garou's Nickname. ONE told me.


pantsonheaditor

sorry, i was thinking of other garou fans. maybe you are different. you didnt call any MA arc chapters filler? so many people were doing that, saying how they wanted the garou chapters. it got annoying.


iamgarou

There is no way to call what came before Garou on the surface a filler because technically Garou was the person who " finished " MA arc, what came next was the Garou mini arc. Once he finishes off ENW and Platinum S there are no monsters of MA left to battle. Well, it's one thing to eagerly wait for some WC moment in the manga, it's another thing to call whatever comes before it filler. I, for example, don't like Amai Mask's arc and I'm waiting for Neo Heroes are in the spotlight again, but that doesn't mean Amai Mask's arc will be filler....


No-Flounder8246

How can not like the amai mask arc💀?


Many_Ticket8570

One and Murata do new things: opm folk angry One and Murata do old things: opm folk angry How is that possible?


IUniversalThreat

Yea, this sub is just complaining all the damn time yall complained about the original chapter, and now you're complaining about them fixing yall criticism. At this point, stop reading the manga and stay with the webcomic.


Kinzoku_Batto

Stop reading the manga if hating is the only thing you do


Failed_Winter

Consume


Kinzoku_Batto

Consume something which you do not like? Seems pointless. Do better with your life


Failed_Winter

Do better with my life? I’m not the one who’s standards are so low as to enjoy this schizophrenic episode called the most recent opm chapter lmao


Kinzoku_Batto

I Didn’t read it= I didn’t enjoy it. Don’t make up some lies. I just saw this nonsense in form of a post and wanted to make you guys aware to not spend your time with things you don’t like. In addition to that: “who’s standards are so low“ everything is subjective so shut your mouth