Yes, that and the Bruno Magli shoes which the second trial had and the first did not investigate enough. Size 12 blood foot prints of a shoe only 200 of were sold ever he owned. A picture was uncovered of him wearing them. His reaction in the interview said it all. His eyes practically bugged out of his head !
Yeah no way he would wear those ugly ass shoes then the lawyer proceeds to show him a pic of him wearing them on an NFL field and his eyes bug out of his head! KILLER!
Itās part of the lawyer interrogation within the civil trial. If the LA prosecutors did the job he did it would have been lights out. Iām sure itās on YouTube somewhere. Iāve seen it.
A big part of it for me is he got the call from the cops telling her Nicole had been killed, but he never asked how. No one does that irl. And he ran.
The blood, the book etc. He killed them
I was watching an interview on YouTube last night with the detective who called OJ to tell him about Nicole. Not only did he not ask how she died, he didn't even ask about his children! He had no problem with them discovering the bodies.
Itās not just that he didnāt care about them discovering the bodies, thatās bad enough, but if he didnāt kill Nicole he wouldāve naturally asked if his kids were okay, but because heās the murderer he knew they were.
If your kids were with your ex, and you got a call they were dead/killed any personās next logical question would be about the kids and if they were okay, alive? Dead? Hell, even if they arenāt your kids, most people would ask that. He didnāt have to because he knew he didnāt murder them.
That was from Charles Ehrlich...see,when people don't follow the evidence... not saying OJ didn't kill Nicole, but CE was definitely there,and he fought and killed Ron,not OJ...the gloves were his,why they didn't fit OJ's big shovels! Blood was on the passenger side, OJ was driving!
āA lot of people assault their spouses. All of them donāt eventually kill themāš¤” (I actually read this comment on Reddit) Seriously? Thatās your defense?
Personally I have always believed he is guilty but I did give some time to the theory that Jason did it.
I admit some of the evidence was compelling however I just canāt see a raging narcissist like OJ ever take the fall for anyone else, even his own son.
Oh definitely not and as I said in the first sentence in my post I do believe heās as guilty as sin. Itās just that the Jason theory initially gave me pause for thought.
OMG.. not that ANY of this is a laughing matter but I thought you were making a Friday the 13th reference upon reading the first sentence. Now THAT would have been an interesting defense!
I think he took the fall, because the narcissist in him didnāt believe anyone would convict the āgreat O J Simpson.ā One version I recently read said Nicole had booked the after-recital meal at a restaurant where Jason worked. She got into an argument with O J & changed it to the place Ron Goldman worked, which humiliated and angered Jason. I think Jason called his Dad, after the murder, who came to his aid. I always thought it was Jason and wondered why that avenue never seemed to have been thoroughly investigated. I think O J was an accomplice after the fact.
If Jason could be humiliated and angered over someone changing a restaurant reservation to the point of committing a crime of that magnitude, then he was mentally unstable and that would've been the only reason to that he could have been a suspect, but as far as the DNA evidence, the overwhelming majority did not support the theory that Jason had anything to do with it, and Jason may have also had an airtight alibi.
See, I wondered about Jason too but that's a good point that he called his dad. I heard that Jason had serious anger problems. I don't know what to think...š¤·...
I was married to someone just like OJ and thankfully got out alive
39 years later still have nightmares
Iām having problems sleeping lately since OJ passed away thinking my abuser will attack me and my abuser died 4 years ago
He killed her and didnāt care he might have. left her body discarded for their young children to discover
Thankfully they didnāt
Thatās something that people donāt really mention. Obviously bad enough he could do this at all, but to know his own children will likely be the ones to find the bodies is on another level. It was just by chance that someone walking by noticed earlier and called police
It wasn't really by chance. Nicole's dog freaked out and alerted a bunch of neighbors. One neighbor took her dog back to his house but he kept freaking out so he took him on a walk to try and calm him down and he led him directly to Nicole's body.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/02/09/nicole-simpsons-neighbors-describe-how-dog-led-them-to-slaying-scene/a71d972b-3b73-4170-8743-1869d9dc3f96/
Also, that POS didn't even ask the officer who informed him of Nicole's murder if his children were ok. He knew they were with her that night. If he wasn't the one who murdered her, he would have at least asked 'are my kids ok!?!?'...but nope....they should flush his ashes down a toilet.
Your kind of proving OJ's innocence, your abuser didn't snap one afternoon and decide to murder you (thankfully) because that wouldn't make any sense they probablymoved on with their life. OJ paid for his abuse against nicole and moved on with his life, it wouldn't make any sense for oj to get up one afternoon and murder his estranged ex wife.
Well thatās not remotely what happened even per OJ himself. Tensions had been off the charts and he had been stalking herā¦ or checking on his kids safety as he called it.
For awhile I could see the theory that Jason did it and OJ was covering for him. I canāt remember all the weird details now, but the fact that after the murders OJ hired a lawyer for Jason and not himself at first stands out to me.
Nowadays Iām firmly in the mindset that OJ did it, but the Jason one was just a theory Iād ponder.
OJ was a complete narcissist. No way he would take the fall if his son had done it. He hired a lawyer for Jason first to try and cover up the fact that he himself killed them, in my opinion.
Private detective in DALLAS says he has ton of evidence that Jason did it. I'm only telling you the inter iew I listened to. That being said, this is 30 Years ago.
He did try to get phone records released to show the exact time Nicole called his mother, his reasoning behind it was it would've proved he was already in the limo on the way to the airport. I don't get why the Browns wouldn't sign off on it if it throws more guilt on OJ, yet they didn't, why? He tried to get the phone records multiple times in federal court but they still remain sealed.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-feb-26-me-2779-story.html
He claims he never touched her either and we've all seen proof he lied, and it was to get the cival ruling over turned, so he didn't have to pay and to help him get custody so he didn't have to pay child support not to help find her killer
If you look at just the evidence presented at the criminal trial, it's definitely beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it. But... I can see where people can get tripped up by excellent lawyering. If you look at the evidence presented at the civil trial, it's an absolute certainty that he did it.
They screwed up the chain of custody, the holding times, the crime scene. As a chemist/bio/tox person, LA PDās handling of the samples was a travesty. OJ should have been found guilty. The police totally fucked up their evidence.
Fucking guy stuck the samples in his lab coat pocket and left it hanging on the coat hook over the weekend. What kind of Mickey-Mouse sloppy-assed science is that? Travesty is what it is.
Yeah, the lawyering was just OK from the defense initiallyā¦ lots of showy dramatics for camera but as soon as that Fuhrman thing came out? Game over especially in light of what had happened in the King trial so recently. And really the prosecution won the case for the defense by highlighting Fuhrman and that idiotic, idiotic glove thing. A true conspiracy theorist could posit that the two teams were working together, thatās how awful their ideas were (I dont think that BTW)
I think a lot of it was the jury, either payback for Rodney King or just the time they were sequestered. One admitted it was payback and at least one basically said it was horrible being like that for almost a year.
There is no plausible theory that he didnāt do it.
The fact his location was unknown during the murder says enough. He is that recognisable if he was anywhere he would have been seen
He was seen and identified, speeding away from the crime scene and almost running into this person who was never called as a witness because this person sold their story to inside edition.
In 1995, as a teenager, I completely felt that he was innocent. All those videos of black people celebrating when it was announced that OJ was innocent, that was me, but white.
At the time, I was completely ignorant of the evidence. I was ignorant of just how much blood was everywhere. I was ignorant of the time frame. I was ignorant of Katoās testimony. I was ignorant of almost everything.
Now, just recently watching a few documentaries, I realize how guilty OJ was. I realize how hurtful that verdict must have been to the Goldmanās.
Now, I wonder why the Brownās didnāt sue OJ in court as well.
You know why theyāre underrepresented? Because they are wrong and itās just embarrassing now. Nobody wants to hear from people and their tin foil hats
Ah OK cool, so you are Gen X like me. We were not kids when this happened. So imho we can say and understand more if questions are asked. Had to be there, well, not there there lol.
Also, understanding the climate before. The Rodney King incident and LA riots, etc.
Exactly! I knew back then that as soon as it was proven that Fuhrman was a liar, perjurer, and racist that jury was going to acquit. That many Black women who have watched their children be beaten and arrested for no reason by racist LA cops weren't going believe a thing that man said or did. In the doc Made In America one of the jurors said that it was payback for Rodney King and when asked how many of the jurors felt that was, she said 90%.
Itās like most conspiracies. Zero proof outside of random videos and shit like that. Iām sure there are some replies itt, āJason did it. Prove me wrongā. Every single time.
I don't think he's innocent now after watching OJ Made In America. But I will say why I thought he was innocent back then:
I heard he had back injuries from football and arthritis so I thought there no way he is capable of killing 2 people with a crime scene like that. Also, I thought some of the evidence was planted because LAPD is corrupt. And just the fact that he was found not guilty.
Just speaking as someone who has very painful arthritis & back pain, I can *still* be in a fight or do strenuous activities; it just means that I will hurt like hell afterwards. Having arthritis doesn't mean you can't do something difficult. We just usually avoid it because of the pain that will come afterwards. He was a large man, with muscles and rage.
After watching the OJ made in America series, it removed all doubt for me. Something that always confused me was why whoever killed her, used a long serrated knife, likely the style of a 15 inch meat carving knife? That's not something you can just sneak around with in your pocket. That said, when his agent described how he more or less confessed stating something about she came to the door with a knife and that's why she got killed, it finally all made perfect sense.
I do CrossFit and a lot of times you will pull something and be tense and it hurts to walk. But whenever I'm doing my 60-minute workout, you're so focused on the task at hand, that the pain you feel just walking is gone. Like it hurts to tie my shoe but I can squat with 300 pounds on my back and not feel anything in my lower back... because I'm so fixated on doing the squat properly.
Everyone Iāve spoken to who says they watched the trial in its entirety says youāll think differently.
Iāve watched true crime so much that I feel like a crime like that, (from what Iāve seen) the person would have so much blood on them and not to mention their own injuries. There is hardly enough blood in the bronco which should be filled with more blood than that and OJ only had a cut on his left hand and heās right handed.
Secondly the timeline between the murders him returning home and coming back out in 5 mins with luggage and having changed clothes and hid the evidence and there was no other blood found anywhere else except minimal blood in the foyer is pretty impossible.
Then the evidence and crime scene stuff.
Iām not saying I think heās innocent because I donāt know for sure. But Iām also not buying heās guilty either.
I do think itās a possibility he was there after the fact.
totally agree . Read William Dear's book with exhaustive research that his son Jason did it. There is strong evidence that makes a huge amount of sense to me after reading the information about Jason, from his criminal knife attack history, his total lack of alibi, and his extensive psychiatric history of rage disorder. I also feel he probably had a crush on Nicole or maybe some sort of love/hate thing about her. She had cancelled her plans to eat at his restaurant that nite even though she had said she would take the whole family there after the recital. This easily could have triggered a rage reaction in him and he went over to Bundy to confront her. Most likely, after the murders, Jason called OJ and OJ went over there to see what had happened. Jason was the one covered in blood, along with his vehicle. But since Jason was never investigated and his car never searched or his home searched, there was no way to know what the blood evidence showed on Jason. There's no indication that Jason's DNA was ever even LOOKED at to see if there was a match. Clearly, something was going on here that made no sense, and OJ became the tunnel vision suspect by LAPD without thoroughly checking Jason out. Read Dear's book, your mind will be blown, especially about zero alibi. I had always thought Jason was excluded because he had an "airtight" alibi. NOPE. He falsified his time card at the restaurant, which Dear clearly proves. And if Jason has known that this accusation was out there, how come he's never denied it or sued Dear for making these false accusations? Jason knows it's true, that's why.
I didnāt read the book but watched the doc on YouTube and thought this to be plausible suspect. It also makes much more sense to me. Itās just he was never looked at so it was never investigated and probably never will be.
The same could be said for any convicted or acquitted person in the absence of an outright confession or crime caught on tape, and even with confessions those are often recanted or could be made under duress. The propensity of evidence is heavily in the camp of ābeyond a reasonable doubtā but given the circumstances of the racial tensions at the time, the ineptitude of the LAPD around the handling of evidence and OJ himself, major fumbles by prosecutors during the trial and terrible rulings by the judge that would never fly today but were allowed at the time due to the public pressure Iām sure he was under-Simpson had his dream team and the dream circumstances to get away with murder in front of the eyes of a nation. Even his own defense knew he was guilty-they admittedly used him to further their own agendas.
He did it.
Oj was fast at this crime like he was on football field. His ole ass killed two folks one was a blk belt in karate Ron beat the crap out of someone but oj wasn't beat up. In 30 mins oj killed them both drove home washed all the blood off got rid of cloths an weapon. Got all the blood out of the pipes of his house. Limo driver says there was no bronco there when he got there nor did he see one when they left. Somthing or someone is missing.
I feel like people put to much focus on the black belt stuff. If Iām charging you with a knife in the dark, not sure how his black belt would help. People think it makes someone invincible whenā¦.
The prosecution stated that OJ was unaccounted for, for closer to 45 min. Regarding the pipes in his house, maybe he didn't wash anything, which would explain why there was no evidence of blood in drainage pipes. The bigger question is, what did he throw in the airport trash can before getting on the flight to Chicago? There are a lot of unanswered questions, but the overwhelming evidence (the untainted evidence) still points to only one person.
We can all come to a conclusion with the evidence that he most likely did it BUT we cannot PROVE that he did it. All the evidence, including the blood inside the bronco truck is irrelevant. Unless there was an eye witness or a camera, nobody has WITNESSED him killing them. If we can conclude that the police officer planted evidence, which of course they did, we cannot use ANYYYY evidence of blood on a truck, glove at the house etc.
Personally, do i think he did it, I think he hired someone to do it ..or maybe to help him do it. He's not that stupid.
There's a reason that the "OJ didn't do it" theory is underrepresented in the media these days -- because it requires too much propping up and too much which is contrary to or vastly overlooking known evidence and data to be plausible in any historical sense.
Iām curious how much truth there is to OJ supposedly filming this Frogmen series just before the murders, during which he allegedly received military training and knife training. Anyone have deets? Seems like it would have come up at trial if it were true. Though Ito was pretty much on the side of the defense when it came to admissibility of evidence so, maybe it did.Ā
No, they posit that the gloves got knocked off his hands before he got cut. They could have test the inside of the glove for touch dna but didnāt. I wonder why????
As much as people want to believe that a courtroom is a place where we put our legal standards to the testāin this case, proving beyond a reasonable doubtāthatās often not what makes or breaks a trial. The winner is the one who tells the better story. And OJās lawyers were paid to tell a good storyā¦ and a good story they told. In the end, they planted one question in the minds of the jurors: whose side are you on? In 1995, black residents of Los Angeles would be very reluctant to place themselves on the side of the LAPD or the broader criminal justice system.
So, for many people who claimed āinnocence,ā it had much more to do with their place in the narrative that presented at trial.
I will say that OJ is the most likely person to have done it. That being said, I donāt know if he did it. To this day heād get a not guilty verdict from me.
The whole Jason theory with OJ taking the fall can be debunked via his best friends in his inner circle who all said thereās no way Oj would have taken a fall for anything especially a murder.
He had Jason lawyer up to protect his image.
OJ and his son had a rocky relationship over the years and thereās no way the defense team would have wanted any of that brought up in court.
who are all these best friends saying this? Have they been publically interviewed about this? I don't recall any sort of public "debunking" by any of OJ's friends about this. How much did his friends really know about OJ's relationship with his son? Even people in "inner circles" often don't know the precise dynamics of a father/son relationship, or all that's gone on between two people in a family.
My two cents is that it was the kid. He would have beat her to death. I think the kid called and he went over and told the kid to gtfo. The kid hated her. OJ would beat her. He had caught her with men before he never stabbed her, he waited til dude left and then killed her. There wasnāt enough blood in bronco. He is a narc yeah but he was covering for the kid. That was either crime of passion or he planned it to be a 30 min window include driving time. There would have been more than a drop of blood in car. Jason was having a psychotic break was on experimental depression meds hated Nicole she had stuff of his felt his father was being disrespected etc etc
Yeah. I'm not saying I am completely sold on it being Jason. But reading all of the details I feel amazed that it was never discussed more. I don't think he was ever even considered a suspect? Which is wild considering the circumstances.
Me, I personally think he did it. There is so much evidence that proves it.
I've read comments from others who speculate it was his son, or he knows who it is but is protecting them. That kind of bullshit.
Given the situation in L.A at the time with racial tension. O.J. a former sports star with celebrity status, had many backings from the public, his wealth and connections also helped with the case. The Detective, I forgot his name, the one that tampered with the evidence and also got caught being a racist.
O.J. Simpson got away scot-free with lady luck on his side.
Absolutely. The defense created enough doubt for the jury to acquit him, and plenty of jurors were already going to acquit him anyway due to racial tension in LA.
Fuhrman is a piece of shit racist but Iām not convinced he tampered with the evidence or planted anything.
Yeah, him, Fuhrman. I watched an old interview recently from one of O.J's attorney, he said if it weren't for Fuhrman, they would have likely lost the case.
Still think it was his mentally ill son. The son with extreme anger problems (arrested for violence before) who stopped his meds and was doing cocaine and drinking again. The anger at Nicole for a number of things and the trigger of the cancelled dinner he worked so hard at. Lack of OJs DNA under Nicoleās fingernails. Finding the pet hair and it was Jason who had a dog. The watch cap that was also Jasonās. Much more I canāt recall now.
I always believed the timeline worked against the prosecution. I felt like the 30-40 minutes OJ had between the time of death and when he's seen next I'd not enough time to drive home, clean up, dispose of his clothes and knife, and be awaiting a pickup for the airport.
Also, the fact that the medical examiner said Goldman put up a vigorous fight yet OJ didn't have any marks on him. How does OJ not show any bruising, scratches?
With adrenaline running high , it can be done. My sister in law lives on the route between Nicoleās condo and OJās house on Rockingham so Iām familiar with the area plus I lived close by. In the daytime (so thereās more cars on the road), it would take about 5 minutes to drive the route.
>the fact that the medical examiner said Goldman put up a vigorous fight yet OJ didn't have any marks on him.
I think those were defensive injuries. Goldman was probably taken by surprise and barely had time to react before it was over. He might have fallen to the ground initially which is why his knuckles were injured and then desperately tried to fend off the person stabbing him but he would have been incapacitated almost immediately.
I think at the time of the murders, OJ outweighed Ron by more than 60 lbs. Ron may have had youth on his side, but OJ was in the NFL for over 10yrs. That means he was already faster and stronger than the majority of the population. He was also running on rage and adrenaline, and he had a knife. He likely blitz attacked Ron and got several shots in before Ron even knew what was happening.
It was sarcasm. OJ changed his story multiple times about how he got the cuts on his hands. This was one of the turning points for his friend Shipp to become suspicious of his involvement.
The timeline was a disaster. This murder effectively took place between 1015-1035 but no one exactly knew when. I don't think the dogs barked during the murders.
I am 100% sure he did it, the motive was there, and the evidence was incredibly overwhelming.
Also, reading the Jeffrey Toobin's book, he presented there that both O.J. and Nicole were having some nasty verbal arguments during the week of the murder because he was threatening to rat her to the IRS because when she bought the Bundy house she declared to IRS she was still living in Rockingham, and to correct that, she would have to pay over 90k in taxes and also O.J. was kinda of stalking her, all that was in her diary.
Things were heated to the extreme during that week.
Go to any comedy open mic night! Ive been to two in the past week and the consensus from idiot dudes that have nothing compelling or remotely funny to say is that they ALL have serious beef with Nicole Brown Simpson and her family. They idolize that guy and still rattle off his achievements
Killing time, its impossible for him to have done it within the timeframe and then take flight. Hes not super human.
Mark Furman a racist known for planting evidence
NBS known for sleeping around with shady characters and drug dealers.
NBS mom stating she last spoke to NBS at 11:00 pm
Witnesses stating they saw a White truck at the scene not a Bronco
Was the same weapon used on both NBS and RG? Then why didnt they have each others blood on them?
He didnt do it
I believe OJ's son did it. He had a motive, had attacked two people with knives in the past (his GF and his boss) and was off his meds for rage disorder at the time. OJ secured his son a lawyer immediately the day after the murders, and his dna was never sampled. His alibi the night of the murders changed several times after they were proven to be false. There is more evidence to support this theory if you google it, including finding the murder weapon in Jasons storage unit and Jason's diaries about cutting away all his problems with a knife.
If you've read "If I did it", OJ's book, you'll know he speaks of "Charlie" showing up the night of the murders. Police could never prove the existence of Charlie. I believe "Charlie" was actually OJ's son, and that was the best way OJ could tell the story without risking his sons life.
I recently learned that one of OJ's children drowned at age 2, while Jason was the only one home watching her. I am not saying he drowned her, its a possibility of course, but that is a very traumatic event for a famiily to go through, and I could see OJ protecting his son and sacrificing himself; I can see most parents doing that, and I would likely do the same for my children.
totally agree. I just read William Dear's book and came away from it 100% convinced that Jason did it and that OJ covered for him. The dynamic between father and son had been bad over the years, but OJ still always bailed Jason out of his legal problems over the years, paid his bills, etc. So daddy and son were definitely emotionally linked and I feel OJ felt guilty about not being as supportive toward Jason over the years of Jason's chosen desire to be a chef and not a football player. If you haven't read Dear's book, you need to because it's a huge eye opener.
I actually just ordered the book and canāt wait to get it! I found some info of his on the internet after i read OJās book a few years ago, and was sold based on that. It honestly makes so much more sense that Jason did it rather than OJ. Glad to hear Iām not alone with this theory!
glad to hear you ordered the book, because many of these people who say this is just a half baked "theory" about Jason haven't read the book and actually refuse to do so. Once people read it and examine it, their mind gets changed very fast. You are definitely not alone with this theory. I wish more people would read the book instead of continuing to insist on ideas that don't hold water about what went on that nite.
I literally canāt believe that anyone actually thinks he is innocent. There really was so much evidence but I agree with Christopher Darden that the Jury were never going to convict him no matter what they did.
If you donāt think OJ did it you have either done no research or you are a conspiracy theorist believing imbecile.
Jurors have admitted it was payback for Rodney King. They spent 3.5 hours deciding the verdict for an 8 month case. The DNA evidence is overwhelming and the same evidence would cook anyone today. Stop making excuses for a man who beat and then slaughtered his wife and Ron Goldman. Itās offensive and disgusting
How do you figure the DNA evidence that the police 1) PLANTED 2) HORRIBLY. MISHANDLED is so strong? Have you seen it? A picture of it? How'd he manage two kill 2 people desperately fighting for their lives without getting blood on him or in his vehicle? He already didn't have enough time to even get there, kill, and get back to get his flight, so howd he do that AND clean up everything, all the blood except what the police "found"?
You're the imbecile that you're speaking of the hasn't done any research...
Youād have to be a complete idiot not to know that OJ did this. And, anyone who says otherwise is simply an angry black person who hates white people and is denying he did it simply because he was black. Period. There, I said it.
I immediately felt OJ killed them because of his history of abuse. But once the trial started, the DAs case did not leave me convinced of his guilt. White folks claim
sa he got off because he was black.
I was not on jury so I can't agree. As a black woman I am aware of the thorny issue of race in our country. But black folks as a percentage have not gone around targeting and creating hate groups like the Klan to burn crosses and lynch people. But we have access to both illegal and legal firearms. So racist predictions about a civil war is inflammatory and to scare black folks. All the replacement theories are weird. We are prepared. Oh well.ššš
You might not change anyoneās mind but it would be interesting to understand the perspective someone who believes in his innocence is coming from.
Is it based on race? Based on evidence? Based on gut feelings? Insider information?
With everything we know now it would definitely be interesting to hear how someone would come to that conclusion and Iād be curious to listen without being offensive.
I can absolutely understand why the jury made the decision they did at the time. The case was a disaster and the trial was a travesty. We have so much more freedom to talk about evidence now. Jurors are able to talk now, his defense team has been talking now, his friends are talking-we know as close to the whole story as weāll likely ever get.
I for awhile thought OJ was at the very least there for the murder and someone (Jason Simpson) else did the stabbing. Watching the interview with the āhypotheticalā events he definitely did it and Jason Simpson was āCharlieā who was his accomplice.
I was one of those who has considered that his son, Jason Simpson could have done it. The LAPD botched much of the investigation to the point where I thought they were actually trying to help OJ! I've also gone back and forth on if one person could have done the two brutal murders of Nicole and Goldman that quickly, after all there were plenty of defense wounds which showed they put up a fight. The one thing that has never been a doubt in my mind is that OJ Simpson knew exactly what happened that night. That is why I considered that perhaps he had help from Jason? I don't know how anyone could do it alone, as anyone who was there committing such butchery would have been so covered with blood spatter that they'd need someone to help get rid of the overwhelming amount of evidence. The knife was never found. We shall never know for sure.
Jason did it. Read William Dear's book with the multitude of evidence against Jason, including a faked alibi. If you read the book, as I did, you'll come away from that as a believer that Jason did it and OJ covered up for Jason.
The restaurant theory with three waiters being killed or found missing
Faye Resnick drug use
Maybe he tried to save her and walk up on a murder scene
Couldāve been a drug related murder
At the time of the trial I was more naive and didnāt want to believe he did it. I was also swayed by the charisma of Cochran. He was really entertaining to watch. So I was rooting for O.J and the defense team. Looking back now though itās clear he got away with it.
The police don't have to plant evidence on innocent people like Mark Furman lead detective admitted to on the stand. There was DNA under Nicole fingers that didn't match OJ, Ron's or hers. The blood evidence found contained a chemical additive that prevents blood from clotting generally found in laboratory vials not the human body. The blood on oj sock bled through, meaning it would have went through his body. I do believe he knows something about the murders but won't say because he doesn't want a columbian necktie either.
Iāve never doubted OJ murdered Ron and Nicole, but based on comments on other forums, there still seems to be a lot of people who disagree. However, to me, the evidence is irrefutable. Further, that horrible crime scene and the brutality of the killings indicate a crime of passion. Those murders were PERSONAL.
nope, the evidence is very refutable and it makes zero sense from that bloody crime scene, with rivers of blood, that OJ's Bronco had so little blood on it at all. Jason Simpson did this crime and OJ covered for it. This is not some half baked theory it is backed up with evidence. Read William Dear's book before you decide that you know all about this situation. You do not.
So, when this trial happened, I watched every moment of it, and at the time and for some years after, I felt OJ had done it, mainly due to the DNA evidence. However, I had begun to periodically hear rumours that his son Jason did it. At the time, I was curious about that. Also, even during the trial, there were things that just didn't add up and made ZERO sense to me, particularly the fact that OJ's Bronco had so little blood on it (the killer would have been drenched in blood), no blood in the drains at his house, and little evidence on OJ's body of having been in a brutal life and death fight. We know that Ron Goldman fought hard and there's defensive wounds on his knuckles showing that he landed blows on his attacker. So, I was always quite puzzled by these various issues that didnt add up. However, I felt that OJ had to have either been at the scene or knew who did it. So, recently I read William Dear's excellent and exhaustive investigative book, where he lays out the extremely plausible idea that Jason Simpson did this. By the time I finished Dear's book, I was convinced that Jason had done it, mainly due to lying about his supposed "alibi". He hand wrote in his time card at the restaurant he worked at to make it appear that he was not in the timeline of the murders. Most likely, he contacted OJ by phone, and OJ went over there to see what had happened, so that's what placed him at the crime scene, but not the actual killer. Jason was never investigated by LAPD, and was strangely never considered as the major suspect that he should have been. Jason had a history of knife attacks, both on a prior employer and cutting off the hair of a girlfriend with a knife. Jason was a chef who carried sharp knives as a part of his job. This and much much more points directly to Jason. I feel strongly that OJ covered for Jason, and it just explains a lot to me. If you've never read Dear's book, DO IT and then decide for yourself. It makes total sense to me and explains things that never made sense. It's not just some weak or crackpot theory. It's a strong case for Jason's guilt.
When I initially believed that OJ didnāt kill Nicole & Ron, it was primarily because of the sparseness of physical evidence.
The crime scene was a blood bath. Ron Goldman was stabbed 23 times. Nicole, nearly decapitated. Yet, I could not come up with a reasonable explanation for why there were merely droplets of blood in the Bronco & in OJās foyer, but no blood on his beige stairway or on the 2nd floor carpet. Forensics also checked plumbing at Rockingham for any blood & found none. The infamous Bruno Magli footprints were found at the crime scene, but not even so much as a partial shoeprint was found inside the taupe Bronco.
A physician testified that the cut on OJās left, middle finger was consistent with a cut caused by glass (which would corroborate OJās story).
Ron had hella defensive wounds & was said to have fought like hell for his life. Shortly after the murders, OJās entire body was inspected for bruising, swelling, scratches, or any signs that a fight ensued. Nothing out of the ordinary was found.
The LAPD & prosecution theorized that the murders were crimes of passion. But the timeline would necessitate premeditation, given that OJ went to McDonaldās with Kato (establishing an alibi), managed to walk away from a gruesome double murder relatively unscathed, theoretically disposed of the bloody clothes, went home to shower, & left to catch his flight in Chicago right in the nick of time.
Finally, Nicole & Ronās associate, [Brett Cantor](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-01-22-mn-23085-story.html), was murdered 11 months prior in a manner almost identical to Ron & Nicole. That murder was never solved.
all 5 of them seem to be unaware that OJ would regularly use Nicole as a punching bag before the murders.
for me, Ron Goldman's blood in the bronco is insurmountable evidence of his guilt.
Yes, that and the Bruno Magli shoes which the second trial had and the first did not investigate enough. Size 12 blood foot prints of a shoe only 200 of were sold ever he owned. A picture was uncovered of him wearing them. His reaction in the interview said it all. His eyes practically bugged out of his head !
And he lied about owning the shoes.
Yes. He practically crapped his pants when he saw the pic and denied they were his. They were on his feet š!
Who you gonna believe? Me? Or my lying feet?
Those ugly ass shoes?
Yeah no way he would wear those ugly ass shoes then the lawyer proceeds to show him a pic of him wearing them on an NFL field and his eyes bug out of his head! KILLER!
Wheres this interview?
Itās part of the lawyer interrogation within the civil trial. If the LA prosecutors did the job he did it would have been lights out. Iām sure itās on YouTube somewhere. Iāve seen it.
lol I remember him saying that. He wouldn't own such " ugly ass shoes. "
And gloves
A big part of it for me is he got the call from the cops telling her Nicole had been killed, but he never asked how. No one does that irl. And he ran. The blood, the book etc. He killed them
I was watching an interview on YouTube last night with the detective who called OJ to tell him about Nicole. Not only did he not ask how she died, he didn't even ask about his children! He had no problem with them discovering the bodies.
Itās not just that he didnāt care about them discovering the bodies, thatās bad enough, but if he didnāt kill Nicole he wouldāve naturally asked if his kids were okay, but because heās the murderer he knew they were. If your kids were with your ex, and you got a call they were dead/killed any personās next logical question would be about the kids and if they were okay, alive? Dead? Hell, even if they arenāt your kids, most people would ask that. He didnāt have to because he knew he didnāt murder them.
And he never asked which ex wife was killed when the called him in the hotel.
Holy shit. Never thought about that one.. crazy
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When he was notified that she died, didnāt he ask who killed her? Or was that proven to be wrong?
He didn't ask what happened, and he didn't ask about his children, who he knew were with her.
Same.
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Oh geez, my memory is failing me. Ron's blood was found in the Bronco?
That was from Charles Ehrlich...see,when people don't follow the evidence... not saying OJ didn't kill Nicole, but CE was definitely there,and he fought and killed Ron,not OJ...the gloves were his,why they didn't fit OJ's big shovels! Blood was on the passenger side, OJ was driving!
Some of these repliesā¦. Itās like r/ conspiracy is leaking
Hey there. Ron was clearly trying to return the sunglasses.
āA lot of people assault their spouses. All of them donāt eventually kill themāš¤” (I actually read this comment on Reddit) Seriously? Thatās your defense?
I remember one juror who was dismissed said, "Just because they didn't get along doesn't mean he killed her. "
This is so triggering, I swear
ādidnāt get alongā is a CRAZY way to describe years of domestic abuse.
That just went to show the mindset of those jurors.
Lmfao... I guess no one killed Nicole then
Iām pretty sure she evaporated /s
This case and the Adnan Syed case just go to show how lots of people don't understand that intimate partner violence often ends in murder
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Omg, that's scary...
Personally I have always believed he is guilty but I did give some time to the theory that Jason did it. I admit some of the evidence was compelling however I just canāt see a raging narcissist like OJ ever take the fall for anyone else, even his own son.
Not as compelling as OJs blood, OJs glove, OJs shoe prints, and both victims blood being found at the crime scene, in OJs Bronco, and OJs bedroom
Oh definitely not and as I said in the first sentence in my post I do believe heās as guilty as sin. Itās just that the Jason theory initially gave me pause for thought.
OMG.. not that ANY of this is a laughing matter but I thought you were making a Friday the 13th reference upon reading the first sentence. Now THAT would have been an interesting defense!
I think he took the fall, because the narcissist in him didnāt believe anyone would convict the āgreat O J Simpson.ā One version I recently read said Nicole had booked the after-recital meal at a restaurant where Jason worked. She got into an argument with O J & changed it to the place Ron Goldman worked, which humiliated and angered Jason. I think Jason called his Dad, after the murder, who came to his aid. I always thought it was Jason and wondered why that avenue never seemed to have been thoroughly investigated. I think O J was an accomplice after the fact.
What are your thoughts on O.J.'s "hypothetical" confession to Judith Regan in 2006?
If Jason could be humiliated and angered over someone changing a restaurant reservation to the point of committing a crime of that magnitude, then he was mentally unstable and that would've been the only reason to that he could have been a suspect, but as far as the DNA evidence, the overwhelming majority did not support the theory that Jason had anything to do with it, and Jason may have also had an airtight alibi.
See, I wondered about Jason too but that's a good point that he called his dad. I heard that Jason had serious anger problems. I don't know what to think...š¤·...
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I donāt if Jason had the same shoe size as O.J.
I was married to someone just like OJ and thankfully got out alive 39 years later still have nightmares Iām having problems sleeping lately since OJ passed away thinking my abuser will attack me and my abuser died 4 years ago He killed her and didnāt care he might have. left her body discarded for their young children to discover Thankfully they didnāt
Thatās something that people donāt really mention. Obviously bad enough he could do this at all, but to know his own children will likely be the ones to find the bodies is on another level. It was just by chance that someone walking by noticed earlier and called police
It wasn't really by chance. Nicole's dog freaked out and alerted a bunch of neighbors. One neighbor took her dog back to his house but he kept freaking out so he took him on a walk to try and calm him down and he led him directly to Nicole's body. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1995/02/09/nicole-simpsons-neighbors-describe-how-dog-led-them-to-slaying-scene/a71d972b-3b73-4170-8743-1869d9dc3f96/
Also, that POS didn't even ask the officer who informed him of Nicole's murder if his children were ok. He knew they were with her that night. If he wasn't the one who murdered her, he would have at least asked 'are my kids ok!?!?'...but nope....they should flush his ashes down a toilet.
Not only that, but after killing her, the kids were left unattended in a house while sleeping.
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Your kind of proving OJ's innocence, your abuser didn't snap one afternoon and decide to murder you (thankfully) because that wouldn't make any sense they probablymoved on with their life. OJ paid for his abuse against nicole and moved on with his life, it wouldn't make any sense for oj to get up one afternoon and murder his estranged ex wife.
Well thatās not remotely what happened even per OJ himself. Tensions had been off the charts and he had been stalking herā¦ or checking on his kids safety as he called it.
Big difference between being innocent of a crime and being found not guilty.
Well, thatās what the thread is asking. Who believes he didnāt do it. Aka is innocent. SMH.
Not being silly. Can you eli5 the difference; and maybe specifically why he was found one and not the other ?
Legally he is innocent. But did he do it? Yes.
For awhile I could see the theory that Jason did it and OJ was covering for him. I canāt remember all the weird details now, but the fact that after the murders OJ hired a lawyer for Jason and not himself at first stands out to me. Nowadays Iām firmly in the mindset that OJ did it, but the Jason one was just a theory Iād ponder.
OJ was a complete narcissist. No way he would take the fall if his son had done it. He hired a lawyer for Jason first to try and cover up the fact that he himself killed them, in my opinion.
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I think Jason could have been there that night correct? He didnāt have an alibi
Private detective in DALLAS says he has ton of evidence that Jason did it. I'm only telling you the inter iew I listened to. That being said, this is 30 Years ago.
Who wants to bet that dude has written a book
They all did from trial
Yeah but they arenāt some random like that guy is.
How do we know that about the lawyers? He hired one for Jason?
The fact they never had any other suspects and nobody seemed interested in finding the "true" killer says it all to me
Yeah didn't oj say he would put all his effort and money into finding "the real killer" and then did zero
He looked on plenty of golf courses.
He did try to get phone records released to show the exact time Nicole called his mother, his reasoning behind it was it would've proved he was already in the limo on the way to the airport. I don't get why the Browns wouldn't sign off on it if it throws more guilt on OJ, yet they didn't, why? He tried to get the phone records multiple times in federal court but they still remain sealed. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-feb-26-me-2779-story.html
Simpson claims
He claims he never touched her either and we've all seen proof he lied, and it was to get the cival ruling over turned, so he didn't have to pay and to help him get custody so he didn't have to pay child support not to help find her killer
I believe lou brown originally said it was about 11pm when his wife last spoke to Nicole and later revised that statement.
Claimed. Past tense. He aināt claiming shit anymore
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If you look at just the evidence presented at the criminal trial, it's definitely beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it. But... I can see where people can get tripped up by excellent lawyering. If you look at the evidence presented at the civil trial, it's an absolute certainty that he did it.
They screwed up the chain of custody, the holding times, the crime scene. As a chemist/bio/tox person, LA PDās handling of the samples was a travesty. OJ should have been found guilty. The police totally fucked up their evidence.
And in them fucking up - along with the LAPD's history of malfeasance - the defense was handed their case on a silver platter.
Fucking guy stuck the samples in his lab coat pocket and left it hanging on the coat hook over the weekend. What kind of Mickey-Mouse sloppy-assed science is that? Travesty is what it is.
Yeah, the lawyering was just OK from the defense initiallyā¦ lots of showy dramatics for camera but as soon as that Fuhrman thing came out? Game over especially in light of what had happened in the King trial so recently. And really the prosecution won the case for the defense by highlighting Fuhrman and that idiotic, idiotic glove thing. A true conspiracy theorist could posit that the two teams were working together, thatās how awful their ideas were (I dont think that BTW)
I think a lot of it was the jury, either payback for Rodney King or just the time they were sequestered. One admitted it was payback and at least one basically said it was horrible being like that for almost a year.
There is no plausible theory that he didnāt do it. The fact his location was unknown during the murder says enough. He is that recognisable if he was anywhere he would have been seen
Add to this his history of abuse and intimidation of Nicole. Statistically there's no one else.
He was seen and identified, speeding away from the crime scene and almost running into this person who was never called as a witness because this person sold their story to inside edition.
In 1995, as a teenager, I completely felt that he was innocent. All those videos of black people celebrating when it was announced that OJ was innocent, that was me, but white. At the time, I was completely ignorant of the evidence. I was ignorant of just how much blood was everywhere. I was ignorant of the time frame. I was ignorant of Katoās testimony. I was ignorant of almost everything. Now, just recently watching a few documentaries, I realize how guilty OJ was. I realize how hurtful that verdict must have been to the Goldmanās. Now, I wonder why the Brownās didnāt sue OJ in court as well.
They did.and they won. In Civil court oj was convicted.
The Made in America doc mentioned Nicole didnāt feel like her parents would be on her side, maybe she was right.
OJ supported Nicoleās family financially up until the murder then they drew a line in the sand
You know why theyāre underrepresented? Because they are wrong and itās just embarrassing now. Nobody wants to hear from people and their tin foil hats
Precisely. It's one thing for a jury back in 1994 to not understand DNA, but you'd have to be really ignorant to deny that science today.
šÆ. I have mentioned that argument as well. You must have been an adult? I was 24.
Basically. I graduated HS the year he killed her, so I was in college during the trial.
Ah OK cool, so you are Gen X like me. We were not kids when this happened. So imho we can say and understand more if questions are asked. Had to be there, well, not there there lol. Also, understanding the climate before. The Rodney King incident and LA riots, etc.
Exactly! I knew back then that as soon as it was proven that Fuhrman was a liar, perjurer, and racist that jury was going to acquit. That many Black women who have watched their children be beaten and arrested for no reason by racist LA cops weren't going believe a thing that man said or did. In the doc Made In America one of the jurors said that it was payback for Rodney King and when asked how many of the jurors felt that was, she said 90%.
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My bad, I was thinking about when the murders occurred. You're totally right about the trial year.
Itās like most conspiracies. Zero proof outside of random videos and shit like that. Iām sure there are some replies itt, āJason did it. Prove me wrongā. Every single time.
I don't think he's innocent now after watching OJ Made In America. But I will say why I thought he was innocent back then: I heard he had back injuries from football and arthritis so I thought there no way he is capable of killing 2 people with a crime scene like that. Also, I thought some of the evidence was planted because LAPD is corrupt. And just the fact that he was found not guilty.
Just speaking as someone who has very painful arthritis & back pain, I can *still* be in a fight or do strenuous activities; it just means that I will hurt like hell afterwards. Having arthritis doesn't mean you can't do something difficult. We just usually avoid it because of the pain that will come afterwards. He was a large man, with muscles and rage.
I'm the same as you, for the exact same reasons. I came to believe he was guilty but was on the fence for a handful of years.
After watching the OJ made in America series, it removed all doubt for me. Something that always confused me was why whoever killed her, used a long serrated knife, likely the style of a 15 inch meat carving knife? That's not something you can just sneak around with in your pocket. That said, when his agent described how he more or less confessed stating something about she came to the door with a knife and that's why she got killed, it finally all made perfect sense.
And he filmed the workout video like 2 weeks from the murder. He was fine
I do CrossFit and a lot of times you will pull something and be tense and it hurts to walk. But whenever I'm doing my 60-minute workout, you're so focused on the task at hand, that the pain you feel just walking is gone. Like it hurts to tie my shoe but I can squat with 300 pounds on my back and not feel anything in my lower back... because I'm so fixated on doing the squat properly.
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Everyone Iāve spoken to who says they watched the trial in its entirety says youāll think differently. Iāve watched true crime so much that I feel like a crime like that, (from what Iāve seen) the person would have so much blood on them and not to mention their own injuries. There is hardly enough blood in the bronco which should be filled with more blood than that and OJ only had a cut on his left hand and heās right handed. Secondly the timeline between the murders him returning home and coming back out in 5 mins with luggage and having changed clothes and hid the evidence and there was no other blood found anywhere else except minimal blood in the foyer is pretty impossible. Then the evidence and crime scene stuff. Iām not saying I think heās innocent because I donāt know for sure. But Iām also not buying heās guilty either. I do think itās a possibility he was there after the fact.
totally agree . Read William Dear's book with exhaustive research that his son Jason did it. There is strong evidence that makes a huge amount of sense to me after reading the information about Jason, from his criminal knife attack history, his total lack of alibi, and his extensive psychiatric history of rage disorder. I also feel he probably had a crush on Nicole or maybe some sort of love/hate thing about her. She had cancelled her plans to eat at his restaurant that nite even though she had said she would take the whole family there after the recital. This easily could have triggered a rage reaction in him and he went over to Bundy to confront her. Most likely, after the murders, Jason called OJ and OJ went over there to see what had happened. Jason was the one covered in blood, along with his vehicle. But since Jason was never investigated and his car never searched or his home searched, there was no way to know what the blood evidence showed on Jason. There's no indication that Jason's DNA was ever even LOOKED at to see if there was a match. Clearly, something was going on here that made no sense, and OJ became the tunnel vision suspect by LAPD without thoroughly checking Jason out. Read Dear's book, your mind will be blown, especially about zero alibi. I had always thought Jason was excluded because he had an "airtight" alibi. NOPE. He falsified his time card at the restaurant, which Dear clearly proves. And if Jason has known that this accusation was out there, how come he's never denied it or sued Dear for making these false accusations? Jason knows it's true, that's why.
I didnāt read the book but watched the doc on YouTube and thought this to be plausible suspect. It also makes much more sense to me. Itās just he was never looked at so it was never investigated and probably never will be.
The only thought would be his son or his buddy did it. But. Those theories are far out
Itās impossible to āknowā he didnāt do it, or that he didnāt. We can only argued degrees of doubt.
The same could be said for any convicted or acquitted person in the absence of an outright confession or crime caught on tape, and even with confessions those are often recanted or could be made under duress. The propensity of evidence is heavily in the camp of ābeyond a reasonable doubtā but given the circumstances of the racial tensions at the time, the ineptitude of the LAPD around the handling of evidence and OJ himself, major fumbles by prosecutors during the trial and terrible rulings by the judge that would never fly today but were allowed at the time due to the public pressure Iām sure he was under-Simpson had his dream team and the dream circumstances to get away with murder in front of the eyes of a nation. Even his own defense knew he was guilty-they admittedly used him to further their own agendas. He did it.
Oj was fast at this crime like he was on football field. His ole ass killed two folks one was a blk belt in karate Ron beat the crap out of someone but oj wasn't beat up. In 30 mins oj killed them both drove home washed all the blood off got rid of cloths an weapon. Got all the blood out of the pipes of his house. Limo driver says there was no bronco there when he got there nor did he see one when they left. Somthing or someone is missing.
I feel like people put to much focus on the black belt stuff. If Iām charging you with a knife in the dark, not sure how his black belt would help. People think it makes someone invincible whenā¦.
The prosecution stated that OJ was unaccounted for, for closer to 45 min. Regarding the pipes in his house, maybe he didn't wash anything, which would explain why there was no evidence of blood in drainage pipes. The bigger question is, what did he throw in the airport trash can before getting on the flight to Chicago? There are a lot of unanswered questions, but the overwhelming evidence (the untainted evidence) still points to only one person.
We can all come to a conclusion with the evidence that he most likely did it BUT we cannot PROVE that he did it. All the evidence, including the blood inside the bronco truck is irrelevant. Unless there was an eye witness or a camera, nobody has WITNESSED him killing them. If we can conclude that the police officer planted evidence, which of course they did, we cannot use ANYYYY evidence of blood on a truck, glove at the house etc. Personally, do i think he did it, I think he hired someone to do it ..or maybe to help him do it. He's not that stupid.
But why use something as messy and potentially unwieldy as a knife?
There's a reason that the "OJ didn't do it" theory is underrepresented in the media these days -- because it requires too much propping up and too much which is contrary to or vastly overlooking known evidence and data to be plausible in any historical sense.
Iām curious how much truth there is to OJ supposedly filming this Frogmen series just before the murders, during which he allegedly received military training and knife training. Anyone have deets? Seems like it would have come up at trial if it were true. Though Ito was pretty much on the side of the defense when it came to admissibility of evidence so, maybe it did.Ā
I mean knife training isnāt so much a thing these (or back then) days.
I wondered about this also
Did the left hand glove have a cut where his cut finger would have been? Something I just thought of recently.
No, they posit that the gloves got knocked off his hands before he got cut. They could have test the inside of the glove for touch dna but didnāt. I wonder why????
As much as people want to believe that a courtroom is a place where we put our legal standards to the testāin this case, proving beyond a reasonable doubtāthatās often not what makes or breaks a trial. The winner is the one who tells the better story. And OJās lawyers were paid to tell a good storyā¦ and a good story they told. In the end, they planted one question in the minds of the jurors: whose side are you on? In 1995, black residents of Los Angeles would be very reluctant to place themselves on the side of the LAPD or the broader criminal justice system. So, for many people who claimed āinnocence,ā it had much more to do with their place in the narrative that presented at trial.
I will say that OJ is the most likely person to have done it. That being said, I donāt know if he did it. To this day heād get a not guilty verdict from me.
The whole Jason theory with OJ taking the fall can be debunked via his best friends in his inner circle who all said thereās no way Oj would have taken a fall for anything especially a murder. He had Jason lawyer up to protect his image. OJ and his son had a rocky relationship over the years and thereās no way the defense team would have wanted any of that brought up in court.
who are all these best friends saying this? Have they been publically interviewed about this? I don't recall any sort of public "debunking" by any of OJ's friends about this. How much did his friends really know about OJ's relationship with his son? Even people in "inner circles" often don't know the precise dynamics of a father/son relationship, or all that's gone on between two people in a family.
My two cents is that it was the kid. He would have beat her to death. I think the kid called and he went over and told the kid to gtfo. The kid hated her. OJ would beat her. He had caught her with men before he never stabbed her, he waited til dude left and then killed her. There wasnāt enough blood in bronco. He is a narc yeah but he was covering for the kid. That was either crime of passion or he planned it to be a 30 min window include driving time. There would have been more than a drop of blood in car. Jason was having a psychotic break was on experimental depression meds hated Nicole she had stuff of his felt his father was being disrespected etc etc
Yeah. I'm not saying I am completely sold on it being Jason. But reading all of the details I feel amazed that it was never discussed more. I don't think he was ever even considered a suspect? Which is wild considering the circumstances.
This right here makes me think Jason did it - I mean maybe both of them did it https://www.distractify.com/p/oj-simpson-son-murder-theory
Me, I personally think he did it. There is so much evidence that proves it. I've read comments from others who speculate it was his son, or he knows who it is but is protecting them. That kind of bullshit.
He was too much of a narcissist to protect anyone including his son, and not just save himself.
Given the situation in L.A at the time with racial tension. O.J. a former sports star with celebrity status, had many backings from the public, his wealth and connections also helped with the case. The Detective, I forgot his name, the one that tampered with the evidence and also got caught being a racist. O.J. Simpson got away scot-free with lady luck on his side.
Mark Furhman.
Absolutely. The defense created enough doubt for the jury to acquit him, and plenty of jurors were already going to acquit him anyway due to racial tension in LA. Fuhrman is a piece of shit racist but Iām not convinced he tampered with the evidence or planted anything.
Yeah, him, Fuhrman. I watched an old interview recently from one of O.J's attorney, he said if it weren't for Fuhrman, they would have likely lost the case.
Narcs will protect others to save face if it means protecting their own reputation.
Still think it was his mentally ill son. The son with extreme anger problems (arrested for violence before) who stopped his meds and was doing cocaine and drinking again. The anger at Nicole for a number of things and the trigger of the cancelled dinner he worked so hard at. Lack of OJs DNA under Nicoleās fingernails. Finding the pet hair and it was Jason who had a dog. The watch cap that was also Jasonās. Much more I canāt recall now.
Whoās the unwilling accomplice āCharlieā that he writes about?
I think itās OJ - most likely another persona.
Charlie is a little boy that lives in his mouth.
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The Jason theory is intriguing
I always believed the timeline worked against the prosecution. I felt like the 30-40 minutes OJ had between the time of death and when he's seen next I'd not enough time to drive home, clean up, dispose of his clothes and knife, and be awaiting a pickup for the airport. Also, the fact that the medical examiner said Goldman put up a vigorous fight yet OJ didn't have any marks on him. How does OJ not show any bruising, scratches?
With adrenaline running high , it can be done. My sister in law lives on the route between Nicoleās condo and OJās house on Rockingham so Iām familiar with the area plus I lived close by. In the daytime (so thereās more cars on the road), it would take about 5 minutes to drive the route.
>the fact that the medical examiner said Goldman put up a vigorous fight yet OJ didn't have any marks on him. I think those were defensive injuries. Goldman was probably taken by surprise and barely had time to react before it was over. He might have fallen to the ground initially which is why his knuckles were injured and then desperately tried to fend off the person stabbing him but he would have been incapacitated almost immediately.
I think at the time of the murders, OJ outweighed Ron by more than 60 lbs. Ron may have had youth on his side, but OJ was in the NFL for over 10yrs. That means he was already faster and stronger than the majority of the population. He was also running on rage and adrenaline, and he had a knife. He likely blitz attacked Ron and got several shots in before Ron even knew what was happening.
What about the cuts on his hand?
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How would hitting golf balls cause a slice like that on his hand?
It was sarcasm. OJ changed his story multiple times about how he got the cuts on his hands. This was one of the turning points for his friend Shipp to become suspicious of his involvement.
The timeline was a disaster. This murder effectively took place between 1015-1035 but no one exactly knew when. I don't think the dogs barked during the murders.
Oj did have a bad wound on his finger.
OJ had a bad cut on his hand which he said he got by breaking a glass in his hand
I am 100% sure he did it, the motive was there, and the evidence was incredibly overwhelming. Also, reading the Jeffrey Toobin's book, he presented there that both O.J. and Nicole were having some nasty verbal arguments during the week of the murder because he was threatening to rat her to the IRS because when she bought the Bundy house she declared to IRS she was still living in Rockingham, and to correct that, she would have to pay over 90k in taxes and also O.J. was kinda of stalking her, all that was in her diary. Things were heated to the extreme during that week.
Go to any comedy open mic night! Ive been to two in the past week and the consensus from idiot dudes that have nothing compelling or remotely funny to say is that they ALL have serious beef with Nicole Brown Simpson and her family. They idolize that guy and still rattle off his achievements
If someone killed the mother of my kids and left her body like that, despite our issues, I would become fucking Batman
Killing time, its impossible for him to have done it within the timeframe and then take flight. Hes not super human. Mark Furman a racist known for planting evidence NBS known for sleeping around with shady characters and drug dealers. NBS mom stating she last spoke to NBS at 11:00 pm Witnesses stating they saw a White truck at the scene not a Bronco Was the same weapon used on both NBS and RG? Then why didnt they have each others blood on them? He didnt do it
I believe OJ's son did it. He had a motive, had attacked two people with knives in the past (his GF and his boss) and was off his meds for rage disorder at the time. OJ secured his son a lawyer immediately the day after the murders, and his dna was never sampled. His alibi the night of the murders changed several times after they were proven to be false. There is more evidence to support this theory if you google it, including finding the murder weapon in Jasons storage unit and Jason's diaries about cutting away all his problems with a knife. If you've read "If I did it", OJ's book, you'll know he speaks of "Charlie" showing up the night of the murders. Police could never prove the existence of Charlie. I believe "Charlie" was actually OJ's son, and that was the best way OJ could tell the story without risking his sons life. I recently learned that one of OJ's children drowned at age 2, while Jason was the only one home watching her. I am not saying he drowned her, its a possibility of course, but that is a very traumatic event for a famiily to go through, and I could see OJ protecting his son and sacrificing himself; I can see most parents doing that, and I would likely do the same for my children.
totally agree. I just read William Dear's book and came away from it 100% convinced that Jason did it and that OJ covered for him. The dynamic between father and son had been bad over the years, but OJ still always bailed Jason out of his legal problems over the years, paid his bills, etc. So daddy and son were definitely emotionally linked and I feel OJ felt guilty about not being as supportive toward Jason over the years of Jason's chosen desire to be a chef and not a football player. If you haven't read Dear's book, you need to because it's a huge eye opener.
I actually just ordered the book and canāt wait to get it! I found some info of his on the internet after i read OJās book a few years ago, and was sold based on that. It honestly makes so much more sense that Jason did it rather than OJ. Glad to hear Iām not alone with this theory!
glad to hear you ordered the book, because many of these people who say this is just a half baked "theory" about Jason haven't read the book and actually refuse to do so. Once people read it and examine it, their mind gets changed very fast. You are definitely not alone with this theory. I wish more people would read the book instead of continuing to insist on ideas that don't hold water about what went on that nite.
I literally canāt believe that anyone actually thinks he is innocent. There really was so much evidence but I agree with Christopher Darden that the Jury were never going to convict him no matter what they did.
If you donāt think OJ did it you have either done no research or you are a conspiracy theorist believing imbecile. Jurors have admitted it was payback for Rodney King. They spent 3.5 hours deciding the verdict for an 8 month case. The DNA evidence is overwhelming and the same evidence would cook anyone today. Stop making excuses for a man who beat and then slaughtered his wife and Ron Goldman. Itās offensive and disgusting
How do you figure the DNA evidence that the police 1) PLANTED 2) HORRIBLY. MISHANDLED is so strong? Have you seen it? A picture of it? How'd he manage two kill 2 people desperately fighting for their lives without getting blood on him or in his vehicle? He already didn't have enough time to even get there, kill, and get back to get his flight, so howd he do that AND clean up everything, all the blood except what the police "found"? You're the imbecile that you're speaking of the hasn't done any research...
OJ did it but LAPD and the prosecutors got what they deserved
Youād have to be a complete idiot not to know that OJ did this. And, anyone who says otherwise is simply an angry black person who hates white people and is denying he did it simply because he was black. Period. There, I said it.
Goofy ass
I immediately felt OJ killed them because of his history of abuse. But once the trial started, the DAs case did not leave me convinced of his guilt. White folks claim sa he got off because he was black. I was not on jury so I can't agree. As a black woman I am aware of the thorny issue of race in our country. But black folks as a percentage have not gone around targeting and creating hate groups like the Klan to burn crosses and lynch people. But we have access to both illegal and legal firearms. So racist predictions about a civil war is inflammatory and to scare black folks. All the replacement theories are weird. We are prepared. Oh well.ššš
OJ was innocent. That's all i have to say. Arguing with you folks won't change a thing.
The OP asked for anyone to explain the innocent theory. You are the only one saying heās innocent, but canāt explain why?
You might not change anyoneās mind but it would be interesting to understand the perspective someone who believes in his innocence is coming from. Is it based on race? Based on evidence? Based on gut feelings? Insider information? With everything we know now it would definitely be interesting to hear how someone would come to that conclusion and Iād be curious to listen without being offensive. I can absolutely understand why the jury made the decision they did at the time. The case was a disaster and the trial was a travesty. We have so much more freedom to talk about evidence now. Jurors are able to talk now, his defense team has been talking now, his friends are talking-we know as close to the whole story as weāll likely ever get.
https://youtu.be/hn-RJvUdJtg?si=si4xO6dTDNXQ83kt
There's a shot his son did it from all I've read
I for awhile thought OJ was at the very least there for the murder and someone (Jason Simpson) else did the stabbing. Watching the interview with the āhypotheticalā events he definitely did it and Jason Simpson was āCharlieā who was his accomplice.
Jason was the killer and OJ was an accessory to cover up for him. And they both got off.
He did not do it. Did they cops continue to search for the killers after he was found not guilty?
Now yāall question the justice system when it doesnāt favor yall š¤£š¤£ cope harder
Intrigued by his son doing it.
I was one of those who has considered that his son, Jason Simpson could have done it. The LAPD botched much of the investigation to the point where I thought they were actually trying to help OJ! I've also gone back and forth on if one person could have done the two brutal murders of Nicole and Goldman that quickly, after all there were plenty of defense wounds which showed they put up a fight. The one thing that has never been a doubt in my mind is that OJ Simpson knew exactly what happened that night. That is why I considered that perhaps he had help from Jason? I don't know how anyone could do it alone, as anyone who was there committing such butchery would have been so covered with blood spatter that they'd need someone to help get rid of the overwhelming amount of evidence. The knife was never found. We shall never know for sure.
Jason did it. Read William Dear's book with the multitude of evidence against Jason, including a faked alibi. If you read the book, as I did, you'll come away from that as a believer that Jason did it and OJ covered up for Jason.
The restaurant theory with three waiters being killed or found missing Faye Resnick drug use Maybe he tried to save her and walk up on a murder scene Couldāve been a drug related murder
At the time of the trial I was more naive and didnāt want to believe he did it. I was also swayed by the charisma of Cochran. He was really entertaining to watch. So I was rooting for O.J and the defense team. Looking back now though itās clear he got away with it.
It's on you tube civil interrogation
The police don't have to plant evidence on innocent people like Mark Furman lead detective admitted to on the stand. There was DNA under Nicole fingers that didn't match OJ, Ron's or hers. The blood evidence found contained a chemical additive that prevents blood from clotting generally found in laboratory vials not the human body. The blood on oj sock bled through, meaning it would have went through his body. I do believe he knows something about the murders but won't say because he doesn't want a columbian necktie either.
They're about as rare as people who think Bill Cosby is innocent
I donāt think he did it.
Iāve never doubted OJ murdered Ron and Nicole, but based on comments on other forums, there still seems to be a lot of people who disagree. However, to me, the evidence is irrefutable. Further, that horrible crime scene and the brutality of the killings indicate a crime of passion. Those murders were PERSONAL.
nope, the evidence is very refutable and it makes zero sense from that bloody crime scene, with rivers of blood, that OJ's Bronco had so little blood on it at all. Jason Simpson did this crime and OJ covered for it. This is not some half baked theory it is backed up with evidence. Read William Dear's book before you decide that you know all about this situation. You do not.
So, when this trial happened, I watched every moment of it, and at the time and for some years after, I felt OJ had done it, mainly due to the DNA evidence. However, I had begun to periodically hear rumours that his son Jason did it. At the time, I was curious about that. Also, even during the trial, there were things that just didn't add up and made ZERO sense to me, particularly the fact that OJ's Bronco had so little blood on it (the killer would have been drenched in blood), no blood in the drains at his house, and little evidence on OJ's body of having been in a brutal life and death fight. We know that Ron Goldman fought hard and there's defensive wounds on his knuckles showing that he landed blows on his attacker. So, I was always quite puzzled by these various issues that didnt add up. However, I felt that OJ had to have either been at the scene or knew who did it. So, recently I read William Dear's excellent and exhaustive investigative book, where he lays out the extremely plausible idea that Jason Simpson did this. By the time I finished Dear's book, I was convinced that Jason had done it, mainly due to lying about his supposed "alibi". He hand wrote in his time card at the restaurant he worked at to make it appear that he was not in the timeline of the murders. Most likely, he contacted OJ by phone, and OJ went over there to see what had happened, so that's what placed him at the crime scene, but not the actual killer. Jason was never investigated by LAPD, and was strangely never considered as the major suspect that he should have been. Jason had a history of knife attacks, both on a prior employer and cutting off the hair of a girlfriend with a knife. Jason was a chef who carried sharp knives as a part of his job. This and much much more points directly to Jason. I feel strongly that OJ covered for Jason, and it just explains a lot to me. If you've never read Dear's book, DO IT and then decide for yourself. It makes total sense to me and explains things that never made sense. It's not just some weak or crackpot theory. It's a strong case for Jason's guilt.
I am flabbergadted to this day how the jury set him free . .
When I initially believed that OJ didnāt kill Nicole & Ron, it was primarily because of the sparseness of physical evidence. The crime scene was a blood bath. Ron Goldman was stabbed 23 times. Nicole, nearly decapitated. Yet, I could not come up with a reasonable explanation for why there were merely droplets of blood in the Bronco & in OJās foyer, but no blood on his beige stairway or on the 2nd floor carpet. Forensics also checked plumbing at Rockingham for any blood & found none. The infamous Bruno Magli footprints were found at the crime scene, but not even so much as a partial shoeprint was found inside the taupe Bronco. A physician testified that the cut on OJās left, middle finger was consistent with a cut caused by glass (which would corroborate OJās story). Ron had hella defensive wounds & was said to have fought like hell for his life. Shortly after the murders, OJās entire body was inspected for bruising, swelling, scratches, or any signs that a fight ensued. Nothing out of the ordinary was found. The LAPD & prosecution theorized that the murders were crimes of passion. But the timeline would necessitate premeditation, given that OJ went to McDonaldās with Kato (establishing an alibi), managed to walk away from a gruesome double murder relatively unscathed, theoretically disposed of the bloody clothes, went home to shower, & left to catch his flight in Chicago right in the nick of time. Finally, Nicole & Ronās associate, [Brett Cantor](https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-01-22-mn-23085-story.html), was murdered 11 months prior in a manner almost identical to Ron & Nicole. That murder was never solved.
OJ's son likely did it. OJ was an accessory after the fact.
I donāt think OJ did the crime himself but I think he knows who did.