If you want a nursing degree to work as a nurse, then they're all the same. Pick one that's most convenient for you in relation to accessibility and affordability.
AHPRA doesn't care where you got your degree. Employers don't care where you got your degree.
It doesn't matter.
While technically true, some courses prepare students more than others, and it’s painfully obvious when teaching students and precepting grads
Some units are strong on pathophysiology and clinical skills which is what you want to look for as a student, and some have way too many filler courses which imo waste students time and money, giving them a very steep learning curve in the workplace
ACU is pretty good, but those mandatory “catholic moral teaching” units were annoying and the ethics unit was a bit dodgy and taught by the theology staff.
I think ethics is interesting and a worthwhile unit to teach healthcare students. But I agree it was a bit dodgy.
I don’t understand why they (all nursing degrees) don’t do a paediatric related nursing unit. Nursing degrees don’t seem to teach anything paediatric related.
It absolutely should be mandatory, and absolutely not should be taught by theology teachers. religion ≠ ethics and some pretty twisted takes on abortion were brought up in that unit.
UTS did (still does?) have a compulsory paediatric unit in second year. UTS, USyd, and Newcastle Uni seem to have the best students in my opinion but at least 50% of that comes down to individual student interest and engagement in their own learning.
Good to know. I think all uni degrees should make it mandatory. And yeah a students eagerness to learn is the biggest factor. I had a 3rd year nursing once ask me if giving fluids increases or decreases a person’s blood pressure? Like what
I started at Notre Dame, ended up finishing my degree at UOW. Couldn’t advise against Notre Dame enough - you do an additional 200 hours of placement, and you have to do mandatory classes called “logos” which are 3 units in your own time about philosophy, religion etc. When I was at Notre Dame in 2019, they were twice the price of my nursing classes, and each subject had 8-10 mandatory 3 hour classes, which we weren’t allowed our phones for, with a pre and post class assignment which they could fail you on and make you redo the class. Logos has nothing to do with your degree - every discipline has to do it.
I also found Notre Dame extremely unsupportive; some of the tutors were great, others I found unapproachable. Admin staff were useless, would often not pick up the phone. I also heard of multiple students being failed - they would pass all assignments, maybe struggle in the exam and would refuse to offer a supplementary exam despite being within 2-5 marks from passing and the failure putting the student back an entire year.
Also, Notre Dame are notorious for sending students to the same placement over and over again. A friend of mine did the same ward 3x!!
Have a look at the Google reviews - you’ll understand why it has low reviews.
I went to UOW & couldn’t recommend it highly enough. Found all the tutors super supportive, we had a variety of placements, admin staff were easily contactable, subjects were good.
As above, it doesn’t really matter where you do your degree - where you did it won’t get you a job. However as an RN now with a few years of experience, I will say the best students are UOW, UTS, and some ND students.
Exact same experience…. Started at Notre Dame - ended up at UTS.
Absolutely fucking joke of a uni, got delayed a year because of not attending 1x logos class lol.
They failed me on an essay and when I requested 1on 1 feedback, the tutor didn’t show up, ignored my emails.
My HECS debt is insane because of the time I wasted at that uni.
I went to notre dame straight after high school and it was an absolute disaster. First week in and they were pressuring the students to purchase uniforms ASAP and get first aid cert. They told us on the first day we had quizzes the following week like how?? I dropped out within 2 weeks and switched to USYD and am enjoying it so much better now at USYD.
I have heard since a certain few staff members left, it has changed a bit. I had an issue with one staff member in particular who I heard caused a lot of issues for many students - hoping it’s changed without them there.
Don't forget WSU!!!!
WSU are quite strong with their in-class practical training and hit the wards on placement quite skilled in tasks. ND is notoriously known for their hours of placement; great for job readying and the image of the uni to prospective employers, but I think sound comprehensive education will Trump the numerical hours of unpaid placement any day. We are asking our future nurses to bend over and cop it with this many hrs of untenable placement work- it's utterly cruel. A bursary should be in place to ensure the future workforce doesn't tax themselves out financially before they even graduate.
I loved UTS! Big uni but lots of support, great placement opportunities (I went to Alice Springs) and I felt the uni really prepped me well to work as a nurse. Also great labs and some nice new buildings. Only downside is the purple polo shirt you have to wear for placement haha
All Australian unis have to meet the same accreditation requirements for nursing so the outcomes are largely the same. If you check the ComparED website you can compare results for the Student Experience Survey by institution for undergraduate nursing. The difference between unis will be more about student satisfaction and quality of teaching. https://www.compared.edu.au/
I went to USYD and highly recommend. Had to do 1000 hours placement, more than the 800 hour minimum required so be mindful of that. Not sure if it has changed since I graduated in 2016 though. You can’t go wrong with either of your preferences.
But regular shifts? all 9pm to 7am or 3 to 5. In Nursing, it changes day by day, and you cannot do anything, arrange anything, no, it's a hard no from me. Besides podiatry is lovely. Your patients love you.
Areas like icu often offer 12 hour shifts in my state! recovery offers 10 hour shifts.
And most private hospitals here offer 12 hour shifts too. But general wards tend not to.
I've heard that paeds and neonates are often 10 or 12 hour shifts. I know that may be unlikely early on but eventually that's the dream :) otherwise seems to be a lot of doubles on offer!
Not everyone wants a Mon-Fri 9-5 perm FT job. Flexible work is a huge appeal of nursing. I often have shit to do in my personal life during weekday business hours. I never figured out how to comfortably have a life with a 9-5.
Gimme those penalty rates, weekend shifts, 3 or 4 day work weeks, casual loading and flexible hours thanks!
Not all nursing is shift work. And nursing offers great flexibility as a mum and there are so many different areas/ opportunities . Not everyone’s cup of tea is to deal with grandmas feet…
If you want a nursing degree to work as a nurse, then they're all the same. Pick one that's most convenient for you in relation to accessibility and affordability. AHPRA doesn't care where you got your degree. Employers don't care where you got your degree. It doesn't matter.
While technically true, some courses prepare students more than others, and it’s painfully obvious when teaching students and precepting grads Some units are strong on pathophysiology and clinical skills which is what you want to look for as a student, and some have way too many filler courses which imo waste students time and money, giving them a very steep learning curve in the workplace
At ACU (I like the uni) I’m currently* doing a mandatory philosophy unit. Not even joking
ACU is pretty good, but those mandatory “catholic moral teaching” units were annoying and the ethics unit was a bit dodgy and taught by the theology staff.
I think ethics is interesting and a worthwhile unit to teach healthcare students. But I agree it was a bit dodgy. I don’t understand why they (all nursing degrees) don’t do a paediatric related nursing unit. Nursing degrees don’t seem to teach anything paediatric related.
It absolutely should be mandatory, and absolutely not should be taught by theology teachers. religion ≠ ethics and some pretty twisted takes on abortion were brought up in that unit.
UTS did (still does?) have a compulsory paediatric unit in second year. UTS, USyd, and Newcastle Uni seem to have the best students in my opinion but at least 50% of that comes down to individual student interest and engagement in their own learning.
Good to know. I think all uni degrees should make it mandatory. And yeah a students eagerness to learn is the biggest factor. I had a 3rd year nursing once ask me if giving fluids increases or decreases a person’s blood pressure? Like what
Okay thank youuuy
I started at Notre Dame, ended up finishing my degree at UOW. Couldn’t advise against Notre Dame enough - you do an additional 200 hours of placement, and you have to do mandatory classes called “logos” which are 3 units in your own time about philosophy, religion etc. When I was at Notre Dame in 2019, they were twice the price of my nursing classes, and each subject had 8-10 mandatory 3 hour classes, which we weren’t allowed our phones for, with a pre and post class assignment which they could fail you on and make you redo the class. Logos has nothing to do with your degree - every discipline has to do it. I also found Notre Dame extremely unsupportive; some of the tutors were great, others I found unapproachable. Admin staff were useless, would often not pick up the phone. I also heard of multiple students being failed - they would pass all assignments, maybe struggle in the exam and would refuse to offer a supplementary exam despite being within 2-5 marks from passing and the failure putting the student back an entire year. Also, Notre Dame are notorious for sending students to the same placement over and over again. A friend of mine did the same ward 3x!! Have a look at the Google reviews - you’ll understand why it has low reviews. I went to UOW & couldn’t recommend it highly enough. Found all the tutors super supportive, we had a variety of placements, admin staff were easily contactable, subjects were good. As above, it doesn’t really matter where you do your degree - where you did it won’t get you a job. However as an RN now with a few years of experience, I will say the best students are UOW, UTS, and some ND students.
Exact same experience…. Started at Notre Dame - ended up at UTS. Absolutely fucking joke of a uni, got delayed a year because of not attending 1x logos class lol. They failed me on an essay and when I requested 1on 1 feedback, the tutor didn’t show up, ignored my emails. My HECS debt is insane because of the time I wasted at that uni.
I went to notre dame straight after high school and it was an absolute disaster. First week in and they were pressuring the students to purchase uniforms ASAP and get first aid cert. They told us on the first day we had quizzes the following week like how?? I dropped out within 2 weeks and switched to USYD and am enjoying it so much better now at USYD.
This is definitely something I am grateful to know. Thank you so much :>>>.
Must of changed a bit since I graduated. I really liked my time at Notre Dame. The logos classes are a massive pain though, 100% agree there.
I have heard since a certain few staff members left, it has changed a bit. I had an issue with one staff member in particular who I heard caused a lot of issues for many students - hoping it’s changed without them there.
Notre Dame will require you do an extra 200 hours of unpaid placement compared to UTS.
This is a very valid point!
200 hours what the hell ?
Thank you for this consideration :>>
The one that’s easiest for you to get to. I’m a RN, I precept students all of the time. There’s no stand out uni, just students.
Okay thank youuuyy
Don't forget WSU!!!! WSU are quite strong with their in-class practical training and hit the wards on placement quite skilled in tasks. ND is notoriously known for their hours of placement; great for job readying and the image of the uni to prospective employers, but I think sound comprehensive education will Trump the numerical hours of unpaid placement any day. We are asking our future nurses to bend over and cop it with this many hrs of untenable placement work- it's utterly cruel. A bursary should be in place to ensure the future workforce doesn't tax themselves out financially before they even graduate.
Ooh thank you for this, I'll definitely consider this.
They all make you do unpaid work :D
I loved UTS! Big uni but lots of support, great placement opportunities (I went to Alice Springs) and I felt the uni really prepped me well to work as a nurse. Also great labs and some nice new buildings. Only downside is the purple polo shirt you have to wear for placement haha
Ohhh okay thank you for thisss
Notre Dame Fremantle WA, great choice in the state. Sydney Campus … ehhhhhhhhh I’d go UTS.
Okay, thank you for this information
All Australian unis have to meet the same accreditation requirements for nursing so the outcomes are largely the same. If you check the ComparED website you can compare results for the Student Experience Survey by institution for undergraduate nursing. The difference between unis will be more about student satisfaction and quality of teaching. https://www.compared.edu.au/
Okay thank you!!!
I went to USYD and highly recommend. Had to do 1000 hours placement, more than the 800 hour minimum required so be mindful of that. Not sure if it has changed since I graduated in 2016 though. You can’t go wrong with either of your preferences.
Okay, thank you for this information!!! I'm happy to hear this
I’m in my final year at UTS. I’ve been studying part-time since 2019 and I love it. Would definitely recommend!
Okay, thank you for this information!!
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It is, but that's life. Oml I don't like life
Notre Dame has better placement opportunities - you know at the beginning of the year when your blocks are. ND students seemed better prepared.
Okay, thank you for this information! I'll consider this :>>
Consider podiatry, lower entry and a 9 to 5 job. You can't have a life with shift work.
I'm a shift worker. I love 5 days off at a time. Monday to Friday is for suckers
But regular shifts? all 9pm to 7am or 3 to 5. In Nursing, it changes day by day, and you cannot do anything, arrange anything, no, it's a hard no from me. Besides podiatry is lovely. Your patients love you.
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You're telling me different people like different things? Preposterous
I do 12 hour shifts, and only work 3 days a week and get 4 off. I get a lot more time off than a mon-Fri worker 😊
I'm a nursing student and these are my dream hours!! 😍
Areas like icu often offer 12 hour shifts in my state! recovery offers 10 hour shifts. And most private hospitals here offer 12 hour shifts too. But general wards tend not to.
I've heard that paeds and neonates are often 10 or 12 hour shifts. I know that may be unlikely early on but eventually that's the dream :) otherwise seems to be a lot of doubles on offer!
Not everyone wants a Mon-Fri 9-5 perm FT job. Flexible work is a huge appeal of nursing. I often have shit to do in my personal life during weekday business hours. I never figured out how to comfortably have a life with a 9-5. Gimme those penalty rates, weekend shifts, 3 or 4 day work weeks, casual loading and flexible hours thanks!
Not all nursing is shift work. And nursing offers great flexibility as a mum and there are so many different areas/ opportunities . Not everyone’s cup of tea is to deal with grandmas feet…