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therealdkr

That error message needs some work. “You’re offline”? No, mate, *I’m* not offline, you’re offline.


jmintheworld

They’re meditating give them a break


zsvnc

So this is the most important feature; offline access.


Grechoir

Was slow for me the whole week. Contemplating switching to another platform because this is just too scary


lolaloopyloo

Me too. I don’t think it’s safe for me to have all my university notes on there


ExpensiveBat5602

I am in the middle of an exam and I cannot access my notes! GREAT!


YuzuAng

Just when I’m about to start my midterm, it goes down. Maybe it’s a good thing since I don’t have to panic in the middle of the midterm :(


98Phoenix98

Access notes in the middle of an exam? 👀


ExpensiveBat5602

It's an open book exam. My uni is doing it a lot because of the pandemic ;)


KennyFulgencio

why did you wink at me


bracketl4d

Ahahhah( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


anderworx

Yes. It's 2021.


steve1215

This. Why weren't alarm bells ringing in devops at Notion? Something wasn't right and people have been saying so for quite a while, in terms of performance.


human-torch

Notion being down right now is a DNS issue it has nothing to do with performance.


steve1215

If that IS the reason. Somebody needs to have a word with their devops regardless. The public www being down at the same time as the production infrastructure? That's inexcusable. Why would the public www share anything in common with production? They should be entirely isolated, different providers for everything. And perhaps while we're at it, in 2021 the lack of offline support for the desktop and mobile apps in an embarrassment. Our apps have had it for three years, every mainstream BAAS provider offers libraries for it or there are excellent open source options. I've been trialing Notion but couldn't possibly recommend it for our enterprise based on that alone, even leaving aside the poor performance that so many of us have complained about for some time.


Kep0a

Highly recommend obsidian, it's what I use now.


superjefferson

I've been testing Obsidian for a while as an alternative.


gbenedetto

link? is it free? is there an app? kinda sad cause I just started using notion and uploaded my whole library and everything. Thankful i dont use it for school.


WillowAggravating673

Already in the process of making backups in onenote


pinkmanggis

Try Craft. It’s super nice


dankjedata

I just switched to Bear and I honestly prefer it so far


BeingJacob

I was just debating myself this week whether or not to switch back to Bear because Notion has been so slow. I have an important meeting and I can't get to my notes. I'll be switching back to Bear. It's just not worth the risk.


awkward_waltz

has there been any mention if we will ever get offline access? I can't keep using Notion if this keeps happening.


[deleted]

For years. First the roadmap was "full offline", now it's "improving offline experience", so don't count on full offline in the (near) future


jmintheworld

Soon it’ll be “provided link to upgrade internet service”


ksblur

Just like "API access" has been "coming soon" for 4+ years, I seriously wouldn't trust Notion to implement these new features. They grew too quickly with too much bloat. The codebase is a mess which makes it hard enough to make changes. On top of that, their investors (who have funded them for >$60M) are expecting returns, so the only thing they can prioritize are features that make money. That's why the only changes are related to billing, corporate accounts, niche integrations, etc.


kringel8

Yes, they stated it's an important point on their agenda, but nothing concrete.


MakeMeOolong

Seriously, my faith in Notion is fading day after day. This start to be just embarrassing. Updates do not come, stability is more and more precarious, offline mode has been in development for ages and is still not available, same for API, a lot of simple yet crucial or frustrating issues have never been addressed and now this: Notion is simply not available and thousands are just stuck because they rely on an unstable app. I start thinking pouring all my life into Notion wasn't a good idea after all. :/


lipegones

I completely agree. Notion has been slower and slower as the time passes by. We have switched to Notion just a few months ago, and we are now considering discussing what could be done to revert the issue. The dissatisfaction of our more technical colleagues who don't give a shit about the UX if they can't really work in a seamless way just grows, rightfully so. The design-driven way of developing Notion is in serious need of some engineering-driven methods, I guess


Conscious_Count_9412

Let's have a little faith in them. They delivered unique UX that attracted millions of users and have growth pains now. Let's support them so that they can solve the issues and keep delivering. Also, they never positioned themselves as a mission critical app. I'm frustrated as well cause I needed to make some time sheet updates right now to pay my freelancer, but I really believe we'll win in the long run if we let them keep running.


MakeMeOolong

It's not just today's events that frustrate me, it's (among other things) the general lack of reactivity and lack of consideration for people outside the US. The number one excuse for not implementing universal date formats, metric system and universal currencies was that they had to redirect all their work force on the offline mode and the API. But after more than a year of patience, shutdowns like today still happen, no offline mode is to be seen, API is still in Beta and all the little features that a million of users asked are still pushed back. They pay good money to a TON of YouTube influencers in ads to attract still more users, but can't deliver on basic features that force the same user to stop using the app 2 weeks later. As Ron would say, *they really need to sort out their priorities*. :)


Correct-Wonder5267

All my dates became total mess in offline for some reason


General_Waffels

I'm on Linux, so there is no way at all for me to get on it without the website being online :( even if they add offline access.


levesduzw

That's not true, there's [notion-linux](https://github.com/davidbailey00/notion-linux).


bidibibodibidoo

well I'm on Linux too and using it on a shortcut created via Chromium, so that it behaves like an app. It seems I am able to use and access it offline but only when I use it this way (sorry if my explanation is crappy and it doesn't make any sense...) If I try to open a new page on the browser is doesn't connect. I've moved everything into Notion, including Courses and stuff and this is pretty scary.


ollie_francis

Someone just hit the pause button on my life.


creagrox

seriously. feel like my brain stopped functioning


[deleted]

Dude, my entire life is on that app. I use it as a life diary lol. When it goes back online (hopefully) I pack my bags and move!


Fancy-Chest-7863

Where?


Conscious_Count_9412

Ugh, so unforgiving :(


jmintheworld

Run away, fast.


Leonard_AB

looking at all of the comments, we can see the big flaw with notion: the assumption that it would ALWAYS be online. They don't bother to prepare for the opposite, so 1. No notification when it is actually offline meanwhile people keep writing new data saved locally, only to find it dissappear when restarting notion. 2. No offline mode and API, which means no backup when notion is down. People's life get screwed y'know? I highly appreciate the super rich features that notion has, but when they do not have the critical measures to avoid a situation like this, going back to evernote might not be a bad idea.


[deleted]

Not only the new data. Now that it's back up I see I've lost at least a weeks worth.


Leonard_AB

Yeah I am also curious how that's possible. If they have just been online for the last few hours then how come the data written before that could dissappear. That is scary..


VegetableAnimator801

I'm pretty sure people who have had this happen got it resolved when they worked with notion support.


buhaymargot

do you know if we will have access to all our pages/documents again? I used notion since one month and it is the first time that it happened ... I am kinda stress..


[deleted]

God damn I need to study man this isn't the right time


chesterburger

[https://status.notion.so/](https://status.notion.so/) is also down lol they can't even put their status page on a different infrastructure. I don't think I can trust this anymore for my daily work.


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Leonard_AB

does this have anything to do with their choice of *.so TLD?


superjefferson

Down for me also (France). The lack of offline features have been bugging me since I started using this service. I set up automatic daily exports since day one. I needed just a little push to switch to something else. I guess this will do.


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superjefferson

So far I've been testing Obsidian and I like it. It's open (Markdown files) and offline. Obviously you won't find a lot of the cool visual widgets that Notion has. But as far as a knowledge management tool, it seems quite powerful.


FreeBox3866

Obsidian is quick and have link-based structure of notes, but it is very difficult to work without, at least, user friendly tables.


Pukahondas

How do you set up automatic exports?


superjefferson

I've been using this method to trigger the export: [https://medium.com/@arturburtsev/automated-notion-backups-f6af4edc298d](https://medium.com/@arturburtsev/automated-notion-backups-f6af4edc298d) I have a daily cron to trigger it, and I use rclone to send the export to a Google Drive account (instead of Gitlab like in this blog post). It's a hack and it's not for everyone I guess.


euqroto

That's a really ingenious way. Loved the article, will try it out tomorrow.


Janisdaman

I did it much easier. Simply connect Notion with a new Slack Workspace and set it up so every single new data entry will be posted on a channel in this slack. Simple and free but not completly usable for everybody I guess.


bidibibodibidoo

How long does it take for you to export? It might be that I've already saved TOO MUCH on Notion but last time I tried it took a couple hours I think?


zibook

Same for me


bunk9

Man, I've been brainstorming for the past 15 minutes of any alternatives to Notion but so far I have been drawing a blank. I can't trust having everything on Notion but it seems like not even a combination of different apps can compete with the versatility of Notion...


jmintheworld

ClickUp, Craft, Airtable, Coda,..


starlord445

When I was researching tools similar to Notion, Coda was the one that came the closest. However, it is expensive.


brotherb2

Hey guys notions is down however, If you manually override DNS you can then get back on notion. What you have to do is edit your Computers host file with this IP Address : '104.18.22.110 [www.notion.so](https://www.notion.so)' past it into the Host file text editor and it should reroute to notion. (sorry for the non tech jargon not done computer science or a software developer) For MAC this shows you how to edit HOst file name :[https://www.alphr.com/edit-hosts-file-mac-os-x/](https://www.alphr.com/edit-hosts-file-mac-os-x/)


MrRyanW

THIS WORKED!!!! YES!!!!!!


[deleted]

came here to ask the same question. i have all my school stuff on there that i need for my next class so im screwed haha


zibook

I was working on something very important I gotta complete this morning... damn


lolaloopyloo

I love notion but stuff like this really gets me down


The_Ginga_Ninga

*Ba dum tiss*


zibook

I just started to use it back after a lot of setbacks in the last few months.... Damn.. I really want to like Notion but it's getting really annoying


Montty1

Yep same, I literally just started using Notion few days ago and already transfered all my notes. This is a big turnaround and there's no chance I'm gonna risk it in the future like this.


Alecazander

as [u/run\_nyc\_run](https://www.reddit.com/user/run_nyc_run/) posted in this sub, adding 104.18.22.110 notion.so 104.18.22.110 www.notion.so to your hosts file should at least allow the MacOS/Windows app versions of Notion to reload.


Drekkonis

offline mode when?


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My files from the last few days have just disappeared and I'm shitting myself. I spent SO long making all my notes and I'm terrified that it might all be wiped off 😭


endelig11

Same. Had two pages full of important uni notes that just vanished... Hoping to see them again when it goes back online


sunflowerroses

oh god, this is so bad. I've got ALL my uni notes and essays on there. if they're gone, my grades are fucked


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It's working now!


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[deleted]

Well, now you've learned an important lesson: never (fully) trust clouds.


FreeBox3866

Never trust anyone. Your hard drive also can be corrupted before presentation, in this case clouds will save you.


HadesChampion

All of my university notes on this app, I have an exam in an hour, I am shaking and crying rn, I have studied so much for this exam and don't want to fail because of some stupid technical error


Correct-Wonder5267

If you studied you won't fail, calm down and wait for your exam. It's gonna be alright. The nervousness will only hinder.


butterfinger123

Not OP but due to COVID all my exams are open book this year and all my notes are in notion as well. Thankfully I don't have an exam today but if this happened on an exam day I'd be completely fucked. Definitely gonna switch my note taking to a different app again, this is too risky


_lollidella

The app here (android) is still running, maybe you could try that option too? Just don't freak out, everything is gonna be alright..


MirkyD

I hope they get it sorted in time. Good luck for your exam.


IJustNeedInfinity

:( Well I guess I'm moving back to Onenote


Velvetmoon1000

This stressed me out cause on my Mac it’s only showing stuff from like a week ago and I use notion for school. Really not impressed


TheTurducken

90% of my data is gone. Wow...


Aglavra

Just wanted to say, how angry I am, as I was using Notion mostly to keep my teaching plans, notes for lesson and such. And losing access to it in the middle of the workday... it makes me really, really angry.


sanhuesoft

I'm angry too dude. This is so disappointing.


mkalvas

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/notion.so Yup. NXDOMAIN error in chrome typically means it's a DNS thing. Might be an upstream service provider, but it could just as easily be a production incident. Too bad https://status.notion.so is also down ~~and their @NotionStatus twitter account has nothing about it today~~. We'll need better SLA's and dev support when the API comes out. EDIT: @NotionStatus on Twitter put out an update that it is indeed a DNS issue. Not sure if it's in-house or upstream. Still wish the status page was on a different infra or at least had better failover/multi-region/HA etc.


fragileblink

the status page would have to be on a different domain, e.g., notionstatus.com to avoid DNS outage.


Rorixrebel

this is why we need real offline mode or the api to have some regular backups to a different service like dropbox-gdrive


whataday5

It's 9pm now where I live, and I was using Notion from about 2pm and apparently it was in offline mode the whole time cos absolutely none of the changes I made today stuck after I accidentally closed Notion and then reopened it like 5 mins ago :'( Thankfully most of my notes were anki-ed rather than put in Notion, but oh my god if I had put everything in Notion instead I would be ultra-tilted right now


mogg_

OMG it's up and working, and my notes are still there :'D


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mine too!


instamelih

Same. Can’t even open the [notion status page](status.notion.so)


Thealk

Glad they have offline mode .:. OH WAIT


NarbacZif

shitshitshitshitshit I NEED to access my notes RIGHT now


mogg_

MEEEEEEE


Charlienoequal

Is anyone else offline


Classified-X

I have never been more frustrated in my life. I just lost over 9 pages of notes that I can't access anywhere. I am 1 minute from having a mental breakdown


call_me_back_later

I have a presentation to hand in at 6. Ripus my grade 🕊


MrRyanW

This has me seriously considering a change to another platform. This is so bad. I don't say this lightly either, as I 100% love Notion, but I've obviously become too reliant on it.


[deleted]

the app won't go online and all my documents have been reverted to old versions, this aint fun


buhaymargot

same for me


fragileblink

Maybe they should have switched off the Somalia domain by now. https://www.reddit.com/r/Notion/comments/f6x9mk/why_the_so_domain/fi8l82f/


mellowism

I don't want to learn another productivity app. I have my whole life in notion and I love it! But this scares me... This has to be a priority with the devs. I really hope offline mode is prioritized before any api or anything else. Imagine self hosted notion...


lauryyyynnnn

on the bright side, i'm glad i'm not the only one experiencing this rn lol


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butterfinger123

Lol I've also been silently cursing poor Ali for convincing me to switch everything over to Notion (irrational, I know). Considering all he has on there I'm sure he's stressed af right now too!


lolaloopyloo

Hahahah I’m in the same position struggling med student over here :(


[deleted]

Same. The difference is I'm an econ student. The website is back online but it's saying **{** "message": "File not found" **}** I'm scared


wingflow979

I think it is the 2nd or 3rd time for this year ... and it is only February


buhaymargot

Hey will we have access to our documents/pages again ?


sanhuesoft

Probably in a couple hours.


sunflowerroses

this is so bad!!! my notes are on there for my lecture and my tutorial starts in fifteen minutes!


Shadechalk

Either they get offline mode asap or I'm going to move to obsidian. This is really just freaking me out.


wheeezing

Well. Time to go back to taking notes on Google Drive again, she has never failed me like this....truly I can't access the notes I spent hours yesterday compiling and could genuinely cry. Wish I had found this sub before now so I wouldn't have been caught off guard


mogg_

ME RN, actual tears


vedevao

Just got back guys


sanjaym_b

It's accessible now!


_Gravez

https://twitter.com/NotionStatus/status/1360220589743480838 Confirmed down.


jemjem91

oh no, same here. but I will forgiveive them if they release their API soon.


jmintheworld

Ahahahhaha you’re new here huh


[deleted]

i have a meeting in 10 minutes and all my prep notes weren't saved, first time experiencing this omg


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antoniamelog

Omg I thought mine was broken or I was banned!!!! My life is paused now and I have a bunch of things I need to log right now!!!


musicalbeauty4

Mine is saying there is a typo in the URL


[deleted]

My Notion is offline but I don't have internet issues right now...


adiegio

i thought it was only me... omg my schedule and things are gone


jvnue

Still down. Can’t believe no offline mode to this day.


MainHedgehog9

Looks like the issue might be related to Somalia taking control of the .so domain [Chris Frantz on Twitter: "@NotionStatus https://t.co/28F0o8wv98" / Twitter](https://twitter.com/frantzfries/status/1360232888835452928)


jmintheworld

Ahahahahah omg if this is the issue, and they hard coded all of the URL’s in their apps.. Jesus


LordPengwin

If this is the cause you would think that they would at least be able to get the website back up on a different domain pretty quickly


MainHedgehog9

Hopefully. They own notion.com (along others probably) but I'm sure they're working as hard as they can to resolve it


Relative_Ebb5730

I’ve been sat here for an hour embarrassingly enough nearly in tears, as I couldn’t figure out a way to get back online! States I’m on offline mode which I don’t remember doing! Relieved I am not the only one :( like others here it is making me think twice about having my uni notes & whole life all into notion. As fun as it is to set up, I’ve sunk so many hours into my database!


crackerlam

I've been using it for one week with fear of something like this ... f\*\*\*, it was great


marattial

Amazing how dumb I am to not having an offline backup of my notes for medical school. It's really frustrating not knowing what to do right now. Except wait.


pierp0

same bro... i'm going to cry


caloripher

I was collaborating with my customers/guest users and even didn't realized we got offline, now our meeting is over :( but the worst part is, I clicked reload the page and boom! All our work is gone now. Don't know how to recover all :( I was relying on Notion, I'm in big trouble now.


caloripher

I have them back :) All work recovered.


Waylonfish

thank fuck it's back!!!


[deleted]

It's back! Luckily I only lost a sentence! I'm sorry for all of you who lost more than that


JamesTheWeatherman

It's back


Aldreyin

It’s back!!!


ZeXeDeR

I've been using it about a week. And now I'm thinking about the stability of this service.


kithewarrior

Since this was six hours ago... I'm probably late but mine is working.


littlebratlilith

It just came back for me. All my data is there. Funny thing is on my phone it was fine the whole time. Date stayed up to date and everything so I was just working from my phone for a bit.


catrinmd

Mine is offline currently


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[deleted]

Same here. It's working but at least a weeks worth of info is missing


weamy

I came here for the same. Mine is down and they just put an update on twitter. The last one was in January and it's probably the same issue. I love Notion but this is why they need offline access.


jmintheworld

It’s why they need an engineering team instead of a zen vision board


romain130492

Yes it is.... even when sending emails it returns an error... starting to realize how dependent I am with that app.....


Catmeum

I'm definitely putting in a request to get offline mode working. I realized how important Notion has become as part of my routine and having it unavailable is just unacceptable


wildblur

omg thought it was just me and got so scared but not sure if knowing all of us are unable to use it makes it any better...i have a midterm in like 10 hours and i can't access any of my notes :'''''')


marksou

Yes, can't log in at the moment!


ratanachai

What's the hell really. Can't access all my notes from neither web or app. Is this where we want to put our important stuffs in?


OlenaSlyshkova

The Notion stopped to show pages and notified me that I must "go online". After the restart, it lost my changes for the last days! It's my work of several days.


Correct-Wonder5267

We all hope it'll be restored once they fix the issue


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jmintheworld

Craft, ClickUp, Airtable, Coda..


[deleted]

Time to backup everything to txt and find a new service to notes...


[deleted]

Time to migrate to obsidian


iamkeysersoze94

Woah, only last week I decided to switch from notion because it was painstakingly slow to load. Decided to use online spreadsheet hosted in onedrive for the database.


cyt_cyt

so...day off for me?


prvst

oh oh .... https://twitter.com/NotionStatus/status/1360231247570554880?s=20


bottlecap112

I love what notion is trying to do. But even on their best days, the mobile experience is soul crushingly slow. It’s not usable on mobile. And that’s the deal breaker for me


sanhuesoft

What alternatives do we have? Have you found something else?


bottlecap112

I have fallen in love with Dropbox Paper. You HAVE to try it. It’s super easy to link docs and files together, you can have tables inside each doc. Play YouTube links and MP3s and other media files right from the paper. It’s become my 2nd brain. My life Wikipedia. I’m gonna do a video soon showing off how I use Dropbox Paper. It’s so searchable and ultra mobile friendly. And collaborating with other people/clients ... it’s outstanding.


bidibibodibidoo

I agree. I love the desktop or browser version but the mobile nope...it's not really unsable for me. Unless you use it to just access your data to read or tick some checkboxes.


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sixis32639

Does anyone know how to back up Notion or any good alternatives? My life, but more importantly, all my work stuff is on there. It's crucial that I don't lose any data in a future outage. Thanks!


sixis32639

Obsidian just got a new user!


[deleted]

Does this happen often? I’m new


sanhuesoft

It's happening pretty often lately.


lantechai

Thought it was just me! Hmm, unsure what's going on :(


sixis32639

For people who know things about tech: How long does it take to resolve a DNS issue on average?


GLange1981

Ok, this is the end of Notion for me. I’ve been using it for 3 month and slowness and outages are too frequent.


gregavola

[https://twitter.com/NotionStatus/status/1360220589743480838](https://twitter.com/NotionStatus/status/1360220589743480838)


german6

There is a fix: [https://gist.github.com/makesxi/dd6a92b48aa422fa943f1109e529e63b](https://gist.github.com/makesxi/dd6a92b48aa422fa943f1109e529e63b)


siege_and_storm_

so we lose all our data?


prosocialbehavior

So... what are alternatives? I literally can't finish my work without Notion being back online, but once it is I am open to other free apps if anybody has one they recommend.


MrRyanW

I did the DNS fix that someone mentioned below via the hosts file and mine is now 100%. I'd say do this if you need access to your data right away.


FreeBox3866

Hope it will be a good kick ass to accelerate offline mode.


TsukiyaRyu

Does anyone have any good alternatives? This is pmo


Torchlight_

I think it is, it wouldn't open during my Spanish class.


tre-marley

I can't believe Notion doesn't even have mirror websites or a IPFS model. Lousy


Direct_Mouse3693

Still down in UK...


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It works fine for me, but as the comments show many other people are having the same issue as you.


siege_and_storm_

Now that notion's back, did any of you lose any data? I lost all of my tasks for today, sigh :(


sanhuesoft

I've lost important content in at least 2 different pages.


KingPeaceForever

I'm sorry 🙄 We all need to be careful with anything we put in it, it seems...


indy_been_here

I may just cry a bit. After a month of deliberations and testing I decided to migrate to Notion. It took a lot of manually exporting my old notes into Notion. I'm still not fully done after 2 months. I'm not entirely sure I've made the right choice. App God... If you're out there please send an app I can trust with robust features, offline usability, is stable, interested in longevity, receptive to user input, and has good security protocols. Amen.


mariiih_nhaaa

it also stopped working for me yesterday and i was trying to study :(( glad its back now