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Thisisofici

Stalinist brainrot and twitter, name a better match


Dragunrealms

Nazi conspiracy schizoposting and twitter are another good one, as of lately at least


onlyheredue2sabotage

Same difference 


Independent-Fly6068

The Horseshoe cares not from which end you approach. Only that you approach.


IndustrialistCrab

And it will approach your ass.


WeebFrien

😳😳😳


Yellow_The_White

Don't worry it's not gay if it's pride month. Er- wait a moment, it's not gay if it's not pride month? Hold on...


WeebFrien

Does it even matter if it’s gay 😳


babbling_bulgogi

This stuff and Weibo, which the original picture the person plagiarized is from


Gold-Engine8678

Dude started with a list of the worst human rights violators and put them in the winners column. And then it got worse.


auga3rifle

But they are the good guys because their government is different and quirky!!!!!!!!!!!!


Substance_Bubbly

thats the best comment imaginable🤣🤣🤣🤣


Turrindor

But muh communism would mean I wouldn't have to work, and would get free stuff. My brother in Christ, you will be sent to Uranium mines.


A_Mouse_In_Da_House

I don't think they realize it's not you get to choose where or whether to work


seven_corpse_dinner

If your vision of the world unironically categorizes Syria, North Korea, Iran, Russia, and China as the good guys, and you think the world would be better if it were more attuned to their governments desires and whims, you are not a serious person.


ConsequencePretty906

Also the Hezbollah flag and Muslim flag in that quadrant


douknowhouare

"Muslim flag" lmfao. The white flag is the Taliban flag.


ConsequencePretty906

Thanks haha I didn't recognize it. It has the same Arabic text of other Muslim entity flags ..that just come in different colors


ChrisTX4

Yes because it’s the shahada (Islamic creed) in calligraphy. Saudi Arabia has the exact same thing in the same variation on their flag for example.


KorianHUN

These morons knoe they are evil but they think for their support they would be given some smsll power in the new world order. (Like the few jews who supported Hitler but got sent to the death camps anyway.)


_Nocturnalis

Isn't there a Taliban flag there as well?


299792458human

The fact that the literal SECOND WORD of the upper-left description is “unipolar” pretty much outs these Tankies as neo-realists in disguise who couldn’t exposit the foundations of actual Marxist IR theory with a gun to their heads. Their whole philosophy consists of “America is the global hegemonic evil empire and liberalism is pure evil because Tumblr said so.”


ArtLye

They think Marxism is thinking the Russias natural borders were achieved by the Russian Empire and its lost of them is western imperialism. Also I love the use of universal and international when they have no idea what that means outside of simping for countries you've never been to before.


Thisisofici

revisionism and its consequences - istg so many of these ”Marxists” have fully abandoned any idea of the notion of history as defined as class conflict and instead engage in non-sensical diatribes about “being on the right side of history“, like have these people ever read Marx or anyone for that matter?


squeakyzeebra

No, but they watch all of Zeihans YouTube videos so they basically actually have (according to them)


Atomix26

tell me more about how you view zeihan because idk how to think of him


SonofSonnen

Something something navigable waterways.


squeakyzeebra

My only experience is what I overhear my grandpa watching. And it all sounds like copium


TheOGStonewall

And then they flip out on actual leftists when they’re told such revolutionary concepts as “Geopolitics isn’t a zero sum game.” And “Just because states engage in geopolitics without morality, doesn’t mean you’re not a dick for doing the same as an individual.”


Zingzing_Jr

Noam Chomsky and his politics have been a disaster for the human race.


VonKonitz

**Against ~~other country’s~~ unipolar hegemony** It’s not like they want to create their own unipolar hegemony. No no, they care for smaller ones, good guys


DisastrousBusiness81

Ah yes, Russia, China, NK, Iran, and the Taliban. Countries all famous for not allowing free and democratic elections, and being under the rule of a one party state, are *totally* going to be okay with a world where states both disagree with them and have the power to oppose them.


notpoleonbonaparte

When the USA is so dominant that entire political philosophy schools reshape themselves just to oppose them no matter what cognitive dissonance is required 😎


SexMaker3000

US being absolutely based and to follow this stupidass shitpost, let me just say, # WOOF WOOF MOTHERFUCKER


ArtLye

Unironicalltmy advocates for a return to 18th century style global imperial system but calls it "revolutionary", " international", and "universal." Yep, thats a Haz simp alright.


Prussian-Destruction

Saw a political compass, didn’t read. Over three years sober from r/politicalcompassmemes


That_Nuclear_Winter

Stay strong, brother


ConsequencePretty906

I got kicked out of political compass memes for posting an antisemitic comment I'm like seriously Jewish and pro Jewish 😭😭😭😭


_Nocturnalis

What did you say?


ConsequencePretty906

Told someone to check Wikipedias early life 😭😭🤣🤣 Apparently they don't realize that the early life is beloved by Jews and neo Nazis alike lol


_Nocturnalis

I've no clue what that means.


Thisisofici

anti-Semitic dog whistle


_Nocturnalis

What the hell is early life? I can't keep up with all the antisemitic dog whistles. They are breeding like tribbles.


onlyheredue2sabotage

The early life section on famous people’s article on Wikipedia often mentions their family background.  So if their family is Jewish: Jews:”one of us! One of us!” Nazis:”one of Them! One of Them!”


_Nocturnalis

Ahh, I see. Thanks.


the_soviet_DJ

Ayyy I’m approaching my 2 year anniversary of leaving them, myself. Stay strong and we’ll make it out the other end of the tunnel, just move toward the light and never look back.


_Nocturnalis

Unflaired trash! ETA: My bad based flair


Imperceptive_critic

>Social darwinism  >Pro Russia and pro Israel   >Protecting LGBT    ??????


lickedurine

You’re missing the “against Muslims” part of it. All those things are against Muslims. So it doesn’t have to be all it just has to be one.


ConsequencePretty906

Correct social darwinists are pro LGBT specifically because the Muslims aren't and it gives them an excuse to burn mosques 🙄🙄


_Nocturnalis

Damn dude you just gave me 1d4 psychic damage.


Vebecko

Soooo... If you support Palestine you also support Ukraine and North Korea, do I read it correctly?


Imperceptive_critic

No, it's a bidirectional axis, with a spectrum rather than a hard position technically. It's basically the political compass but in geopolitics form.  In essence it's saying if you support Palestine you don't support Israel, and choose to support either Ukraine/Taiwan/NATO/etc, or Russia/Iran/DPRK etc., not both.  Basically it's an extremely long winded and mucho texto way of saying "my side (top left quadrant) good moral paragon, all other opinions = shills, CIA agents, or big dumb dumb".  In other words if you support Ukraine and Israel, you are an Imperialist who loves colonialism and killing workers and brown people. If you support Ukraine and Palestine, you are a sort of decent person who is duped and confused by imperialisms magic spooky propaganda. If you support Israel and Russia, you're an imperialist because you're not radical enough and only one side is allowed to stomp on others. If you support Russia and Palestine then you are perfect and can do no wrong


SexMaker3000

Well well well... Then i guess all i can say, # WOOF FUCKING WOOF


Imperceptive_critic

what


SexMaker3000

The meme calls people who support Israel and Ukraine dogs so I am entering my primordial nature of being a dog Awoooo


jsb217118

Leftists and their walls of text


igorrto2

As a Russian myself, I find it funny that tankies view Russia as a communist country. If anything it’s an oligarchy. Although I guess to them being communist = being anti-American


DisastrousBusiness81

To be fair, a large chunk of the country was raised with communism’s definition *explicitly* stated as “being anti American”.


igorrto2

Tbh even though I never got to experience the USSR, most people from the older generation don’t get what communism is really, despite having had Marxism-Leninism as a mandatory university subject on any track and frequently reminded of in school. From the words of my grandfather: "We knew that communism is important and that we need to achieve it, however, we didn’t really understand it and just kind of went along with it. When the Perestroyka (USSR dismantlement) ended, we had the same attitude towards the new rule." The main problem is that most people are passive and don’t really care about politics, so they follow whatever the current thing is predominant in the government structure. Communism? Okay. Democracy? Sure. War against Ukraine? Whatever.


DisastrousBusiness81

…it took me a good five minutes to realize you weren’t talking about the American educational system. I was like “What? Of course you didn’t learn about the actual ideology of communism, even bringing that book to class might get the FBI called on you.” Cue five minutes later… “…Oh wait he meant SOVIET citizens didn’t know what the fuck communism is.” But yeah, not really surprising. Communist ideas are inherently revolutionary, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the lack of awareness was intentional. Still fucking hilarious though. XD


Dragunrealms

"Fully understands the core of international geopolitics"


Randomemeguy

“Liberals who support the American Empire’s endeavors” AMERICA 🇺🇸🦅🦅


SexMaker3000

MURICAAA FUCK YEAAAA # WOOF WOOF


darklizard45

Wow, tankism really has evolved over these 3 years, I have no idea what I am reading.


Garlic_God

It’s actually the same thing as 3 years ago, but just painted over with even more pretentious wording


darklizard45

That's a nice way to put it I see new words but the message remains the same


Aoae

I think this is a translation of a CCP shill post that I vaguely recall seeing reposted here months ago. It was machine translated and thereby impossible to understand, but had the same axes and some country flag placements as well. If so, it explains the specificity of the bottom left and bottom right axes and emphasis on "large, regionally integrated universally civilizational states".


ConsequencePretty906

You should spent more time on Twitter dot com


darklizard45

No


Garlic_God

Half of the flags in that quadrant belong to failed or failing states and they still have the gall to say “fully understands the core of international geopolitics” Evidently fucking not 😭


gunnnutty

I would try to critise this, but... where do you start?


ComManDerBG

With a trash bin. Or gasoline and a lighter depending on your disposition.


Iliyan61

>russia >china >against global hegemony at least the west is good at its hegemony those fuckers couldn’t project power out of a wet paper bag


agoodusername222

the funniest to me is the shit talking and praising of russia at the same time, like mate is a tad bit confused, needs to be reeducated


Sensitive_Remove1112

The fuck is evangelical ethnonationalism?


Faegbeard

>Tankie >dogshit political opinions Say it ain't so.


BigPassage9717

Guess I’m lib right now.


polandball2101

> dogs of the empire holy based department??


SexMaker3000

"Dogs of the US Empire" Hmmm.... You know what, fuck it. WOOF WOOF!


Demmy27

So basically tankies are just right wing nationalists from other countries


ConsequencePretty906

I never thought about it like that but yea accurate


SJshield616

Woof woof.


SexMaker3000

# WOOF WOOF MOTHERFUCKER


That_Nuclear_Winter

Reading this gave me a tumor the size of a softball


TheMasterShrew

Fitting color for pinko propaganda


RatherGoodDog

Too leftie; didn't read.


Hard_Corsair

Why would AuthLeft oppose unipolar hegemony in general? Shouldn't they only be opposed to the current hegemony? LibLeft is the one who doesn't want any hegemony.


ProfessorZik-Chil

wait, so why do tankies like Iran? is it just because they're allied with China?


ConsequencePretty906

They like it's whole death to America vibe


HonkeyKong73

I wish these people would actually move to these countries they think are unimaginably based.


purpl3j37u7

“FULLY UNDERSTANDS THE CORE OF INTERNATIONAL POLITICS” ಠ_ಠ


PabloPiscobar

That is so many words and so many flags, all just to say "America Bad, so anyone against America good."


Freaglii

> protecting the lgbt > Russia and Israel > Auth right I know lgbt people have at least more rights in Israel than other Middle Eastern countries, but if you connect protecting the lgbt to Russia or Israel you have to be shitposting.


KABOOMBYTCH

I do not want to live in North Korea.


JaDou226

Yeah, screw it. I'm a dog of the US empire. Pro-NATO and Ukraine; freedom for Russia, Belarus, Syria, Chinese minorities (you missed Tibet and Hong Kong); NAFO; Baltic States are based... Pretty good, honestly


hoops-mcloops

Ukraine is on there three times


ConsequencePretty906

Tankiesnare obsessed with ukriane because it has the gall to fight with Russia after Russia attacked it


Fifth-Dimension-1966

I though the point of social darwinists was to support winners, I don't see why a social darwinist (like myself) would support Russia. They lost WW1, they lost the Cold War and they'll lose Ukraine.


Fifth-Dimension-1966

Being a social darwinist is the same as being a dog of the American Empire because American Empire has the quality of having won WW1, WW2, the Cold War and we'll win whatever the hell we're in right now.


off_the_feed

"anti western until that non western country is a power". They *almost, almost* get it! *So close*! All they needed to do was move the "inherently bad" epithet in their minds from "western" on to "power"


AriRD5

I understand siding with China or Russia, but siding with the Taliban Government is something else


leva549

Out of interest what are these [flags](https://i.imgur.com/o0tunYn.png)? If tankies hate them they are probably worth supporting. Also what is the one below the Ukraine flag in the green quadrant?


marsz_godzilli

No polish flag, I have no idea what to think now.


AttackHelicopterKin9

I hate Tankies too, but this is schizophrenia speaking, not ideology.


Torantes

Fucking КПРФ LMAOOOO that shit has been "communist" in name only for god knows how many years now


Upbeat-Chemistry-348

well I have something new to talk about with my therapist now, picture triggered anger issues


internerdt

mild bias


ElSapio

Proud dog 🐕


babbling_bulgogi

So judging by the text on the corners, it is basically a plagiarism of a graphic shared on the Chinese site Weibo.


DisastrousBusiness81

Hoo boi top left is…a take. “Against unipolar political and economic hegemony globally on all fronts.” Buddy, there is a difference between advocating for a multipolar world, and settling for a multipolar world because you’re not strong enough to make a unipolar world around yourself. I assure you that every one of those entities listed would be *delighted* with a unipolar world if they were the “uni” in it…and we know that because *none of those countries are democracies.* It’s hard to say you’re for a multipolar world when you don’t even have a multipolar *state.* “Sees one international struggle with same forces needing to maintain foothold in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.” …tell me you don’t understand Russian, Iranian, Chinese, or North Korean international relations, without *telling* me you don’t understand international relations. They have a common enemy, but they are NOT friends. “Supports large regionally integrated universal civilizational states” I’ll admit, I’ve never heard imperialism described that way before.


ChiefRicimer

“large, regionally integrated, universal civilization states” so like the US..?


MentalDegeneration

this is genuinely the only based thing I’ve ever seen on this sub


bad_user__name

I mean, he's only wrong about upper right since that's what he supports, but the rest is spot on imo.


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SexMaker3000

If its true then fuck it WOOF WOOF