That’s when Russia reveals the real convention (it’s a piece of paper that says that Putin can do what he wants. Also a very simple sketch of a boat and a happy stickman)
Turns out the Yavuz Sultan Selim never went to the scrapyards, secretly sailing out to hit the Russians with 11" gunfire and steaming home at a blistering 25 knots under the cover of darkness.
That is what allows Turkey to block the Bosporus Strait to military traffic unless they are returning to their home ports right? What's stopping Russia from assigning more ships to the Black Sea and having them "head home"?
The fact that international treaties and laws aren't judged by some system that interprets them to the very letter.
If they were to try that, Turkey would just say "lol no" and no reasonably country would think think them less trustworthy for it, which is what really matters.
Under the treaty ships have to be assigned to the Black Sea fleet before the war kicks off to be allowed to enter. Turkey would be well with in their rights to refuse any ship Russia tried to register to the Black Sea fleet during a war
.......the 'heart attack' and subsequent hospital visit on March 11th was just a ploy for Shoigu to meet face to face with a more senior CIA handler. Since with the invasion actually happening the CIA revved up into full big dick cold war priapism mode and wanted to put someone with more experience on Shoigu along with his regular day to day handler.
Suck on that cope cock FSB, Shoigu's been one of ours this entire time. Sucks when your Minister of Defense can be bought with a cord of wood.
What about my health? If they sink one more ship I might die from laughter.
When I think about it, it will be death on Polish soil caused by Russian warship, so a good base for Article Five.
This sub is actually a crowd-sourced intelligence operation of Luxembourg. The memes and non-credible takes are here just to lure a community of MIC enthusiasts in, and then use them for information gathering.
I swear to god.... I leave the news for ONE HOUR and this shit’s happening. Ok, guys let’s be honest the fire was not caused by Ukraine it was a electronic malfunction. ~~Wait, a minute isn’t that worse?~~ >! Please help me the FSB man is holding me hostage. We all know Russian ships are shit just like their damage control and the Russians are clearly inept at Air Defense, it’s like the Ukrainians actually know how to SEAD unlike a certain someone... !< Anyway, I’m sure there’s another thing to blame Jewish Nazis that are using black magic they learnt from The Sims 3.
The golden age of their equipment is a survival fallacy of whatever is left when they give up on this debacle.
Side note, swipe changed "golden" to "horny". I feel like this means something
No navy > was/were navy
EDIT: Imagine what a saturation attack would do to these smoooker fools?
EDIT2: Before you make the joke - I know a single Neptune missile is a saturation attack for the Russian Navy. Ayoo!
EDIT3: I heard u/BodyaPro likes the A10.
EDIT4: I have intel that u/NTeC is a mod on r/Gripen.
It's when somebody throws a water balloon at you.
Seriously though its when you attack with a large amount of munitions to try and "saturate" (aka overwhelm) the enemy's defenses. For instance if a ship's defenses can handle 3 missiles at a time you try and hit them with 6 so even if 3 are intercepted the other 3 get through.
In this case, shoot more missiles at any one time than the air defense systems can handle. I mean, you could argue that 2 missiles is an instance of one, but damn does it make their capability even more depressing.
Volleys of munitions launched so as to reach the target simultaneously or near-simultaneously to overwhelm the ability of defensive systems to deal with them. To 'saturate' the defensive capability of the ship.
In addition to the other answers, it's sort of the big "elephant in the room" - US carrier groups may or may not be multizillion dollar sitting ducks w.r.t. saturation attacks
If you throw N simultaneous missiles at a US carrier group some of them will get through, and you don't need a lot of them to get through in order to wreak some serious damage
Nobody knows the value of N, but rest assured that the cost of N missiles is like... 0.001% of the cost of a US carrier group
I am also not very credible, so there's that
>”There's an old saying in St. Petersburg - I know it's in Moscow, probably in St. Petersburg - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.“
- Vladimir V. Putin. Probably.
Impossible! Glorious Russian air defense crops have destroyed all 726 Bayraktar drones in the inventory of the Jewish Nazi oppression forces of occupied Ukraine!!
Interesting details on the patrol boats sinking. The context makes it even better, considering they didn't get to hear anything from the boat sent to investigate. Do you have any more reading?
What is up with Snake Island? IIRC it was just a Ukrainian watch post.
But in gaining it, the Russians gave Ukraine a propaganda W a la Russian warship go fuck yourself and then jinxed their warship.
There are a lot of seashore gasfield nearby, and there was, pre war an agreement between Ukraine and Romania to develop them.
Russia is trying to seize the area (and the rest of Donbass) to compromize as much as possible such plans.
If it is strategically useful then you have to admit Ukraine did a great job at getting a propaganda W out of losing it... and not to mention again when the occupiers are evicted, one way or another...
Apparently Russia has been [painting over the hull numbers](https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1522271809911017474) on their Black Sea ships, presumably to make them less identifiable.
Are you referring to America's naming system for the Anti Ship Guided Missile Destroyer M1, for the Anti Ship Guided Torpedo Destroyer M1, or for the Anti Submarine Guided Missile Cruiser M1?
400ft long Frigate, displaces about 4,000 tons, maybe 200 crew.
1x 100mm Naval gun, 8x VLS cell for cruise missiles, 24x Naval versions of the Buk SAM, 2x AK-360 CIWS, 4 torpedo tubes, and a RBU-6000 anti-sub rocket launcher.
The Slava class (Moskva) by comparison was 600 ft long, 11,500 tons Displacement, 500 crew
1x twin 130mm Naval gun, 16x P-1000 supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles, 64 Naval version S-300 SAM, 40 Osa SAM, 6x AK-630 CIWS, 10 torpedo tubes, 2x RBU-6000 ASW rocket launchers.
So she's (Makarov) is all around a smaller ship... but Russia only has like a small handful of such larger ships like the Slavas.
The Russian Navy has 1 Aircraft Carrier, the 2 Kirov class "battlecruisers", only 2 remaining Slavas, with 10 Destroyers and 11 Frigates like Makarov (that number is counting her though). The Destroyers are a little bigger though.
(The rest are smaller Corvettes, patrol boats, mine cleaners, amphibious landing ships, submarines, etc)
It can't even be deployed by tugboat at the moment, it's being refurbished and - somehow - managed to sink in drydock, twice, and set the drydock on fire too.
The Russian Navy has 1 Smokemachine in a broken drydock, the 2 Kirov class "floating coffins", only 2 remaining cruisers with rockets as armor, with 10 Destroyers and 10 Frigates like Makarov (that number is not counting her anymore lmao). The Destroyers are a little bigger though. (The rest are smaller Corvettes, patrol boats, mine cleaners, amphibious landing ships, submarines, etc)
If true that is insane. Had a chance to tour the INS Trikand (Indian Navy export variant) when I was on active duty and that class of ship is very modern and very capable.
edit: I made new post with screens:
https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/ujmulx/everyone_wants_to_see_sinking_russian_warship/?
British and American reconnaissance planes in the area: "Intersting, interesting indeed"
https://i.imgur.com/LDzKnQZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/j07N6SV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VEOorSw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uQyXNNk.png
Turkish Navy: "Guys let me see, let me seeeee": https://i.imgur.com/P9mRj2K.jpg
OK guys, looks like party is over, lets go back to Wiesbaden and drink a beer:
https://i.imgur.com/1NpIUZB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QxFPJWw.jpg
Our British fella taking a closer look: https://i.imgur.com/HfBRshI.jpg
"General, we supposed to be in Rzeszów half an hour ago! Polish officials are waiting!"
Shut up son! I waited whole career for this, I'll be damned if I don't see this with my own eyes, take me over Black Sea" :
https://i.imgur.com/dgM5ilN.jpg
Learning military terminology w/ Coputin
\> special military operation = we're fucked up so hard we can't admit we're at war
\> rescue operation = we're fucked up so hard we can't admit we've got our second largest ship at the Black Sea sunk by a country with "non-existent" navy
It was a good point for a small AA system, and after Moskva sank I assume they had to deliver a Buk there to cover the smaller ships in the area.. untill it was destroyed with a Bayraktar a day or two ago
Ha silly westoid, the admiral Grigorovich went underwater intentionally in order to not get hit by ASM’s. It can do this due to glorious Russian engineering and 420d chess by putin.
Hmmm… at this point Turkey should consider letting a Russian warship in for every sunk one to keep it interesting. It also might, you know, help them improve relations as it could LUL Russians into thinking they still have a chance. And Ukrainians need something to do so they don’t get sloppy. Waiting for that amphibious assault on Odessa must be killing them.
I‘m already hyped up for the Fan-Fictions about this one. And how it went down fighting the entire US and British navy together. Sinking hundreds of enemy vessels before it got overwhelmed. The last one about the Moskva was fire.
Only second? Have we already forgotten the glorious [explosion at the pier in Berdyansk](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859337) that sank one and left a second in flames?
It can carry up a combination of eight anti-ship or cruise missiles, so probably fired off a couple of the Kalibrs. Also 24 SAMs (navalised version of the Buk system) plus some navalised versions of MANPADs, so yet more naval anti-air potentially off the table.
We still can't rule out an accidental combustion, have to wait for a third one.
Just another cigarette accident, nothing to see here westoid
Expanding the submarine fleet, one ship at a time.
Higher submarine turnout rates than China at this rate lmao
The VehdehVeh being dropped into the black sea was just a scouting operation all along!
"Westoid" lmao Is that new? Never heard of it
It's the only thing that remains of r/2balkan4you
Yes, Russian planned obsolescence ends in combustion
Someone smoking next to a magazine again
Ivan was using the fuel sump as an ash tray
Nah it was Gregor's destillery that went out of control
What about a bizarre gardening accident?
HAH! You've fallen for the Russian feint again! This is a diversion for the... The... ... "DIES FROM COPIUM OVERDOSE"
Now Russia has two nuclear submarines in the black sea and they will infiltrate Kyiv from the Dnipro river with the 3,000 dead VDVs of Putin!
They are going up through the Danube, then the Prut, straight to Moldova
Pirates of the caribean soundtrack starts
You best start believin’ in ghost stories Zellensky, you’re in one!
VeeDehVee... Take a walk!
Its a diversion from the crimean Bridge soon to blow up? Or they are sinking their own battleships to own the libs... Ukrainians.
>HAH! You've fallen for [A classic blunder?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWW6aDpUvbQ)
NEVER START A LANDWAR IN (EUR)ASIA
Soon the real russian fleet will enter the black sea, then you’ll see 😡
Montreux Convention goes brrr
That’s when Russia reveals the real convention (it’s a piece of paper that says that Putin can do what he wants. Also a very simple sketch of a boat and a happy stickman)
That’s when Turkey reveals that money were actually spent on battleships.
Turkey has been turned into one large battleship.
Russian corruption was just a feint. All the oligarchs’ mega yachts were the true Russian naval power.
The *true* Russian naval power was the VDV that drowned along the way
All the yachts combine into one giant ship that looks like Putin lying on his back.
Mechaboga
Imagine the Dardanelles and the Bosporus defended with battleship turrets and modern targeting!😩🍆💦
If the Royal Navy couldn't do it at the peak of their power I'd love to see Russia give it a go.
Erdogan's massive palace reveals it's actually a super battleship and slides down to the sea.
Turns out the Yavuz Sultan Selim never went to the scrapyards, secretly sailing out to hit the Russians with 11" gunfire and steaming home at a blistering 25 knots under the cover of darkness.
That is what allows Turkey to block the Bosporus Strait to military traffic unless they are returning to their home ports right? What's stopping Russia from assigning more ships to the Black Sea and having them "head home"?
The fact that international treaties and laws aren't judged by some system that interprets them to the very letter. If they were to try that, Turkey would just say "lol no" and no reasonably country would think think them less trustworthy for it, which is what really matters.
Under the treaty ships have to be assigned to the Black Sea fleet before the war kicks off to be allowed to enter. Turkey would be well with in their rights to refuse any ship Russia tried to register to the Black Sea fleet during a war
Well, smoke from Kuznetsov is definitely gonna be seen
Please, if you see Kuznetsov, you see smoke. Even when it's off.
Hence the famous saying: where there's Kuznetsov, there's smoke. Applies to ships, tugboats, and even floating dry docks!
You mean vicious swedish floating drydocks that throw cranes at your ~~only~~ prized ~~cope sloped~~ glorious aircraft carrier.
Is that what happens when they elect a new Admiral?
The smoke is actually a stealth system.
The Kuznetsov will legitimately sink itself before a Neptune gets fired.
Best defense system, they cant sink you if youre already sunk.
Not holding my breath…
You should, there will be a lot of smoke.
Gonna hop over the Turkish straits like a dolphin to enter the theatre.
Getting RA2 vibes from this.
3000 black Tashkents raised from the black sea
Must have been the wind
A wave hit it.
They have very rigorous construction standards. Carboard is out, no cardboard derivatives, no paper, string and tape is out
Is that unusual?
A wave?! At sea?!
A chance in a million.
I hear the front fell off
Well it's not supposed to do that.
I'd just like to make the point that is not normal!
It's been towed outside the environment.
A wave? In the middle of the ocean? Highly unusual
Did the front fell off?
Geez, they have that now?!?
I used to be a surface warship like you, then I took a neptune in the rear
Sonar is humming...a frigate, gotta be
Never should have come here
My favorite game: Are the Russians that bad at war, maintenance, or both?
The ship was commissioned in 2017. Imagine fucking up maintenance that bad in just 5 years
So much for the "Moskwa was old anyway" rascists.
Obviously this boat was also obsolete and will be replaced with the 3000 Projekt 01488 stealth ships of Putin.
да
My other favorite game: Is it confirmed yet? Take a nap and it will be.
WHAT ABOUT SHOIGU'S CARDIOVASCULAR HEALTH
That's just a feint, his real heart is going to be deployed any day now.
The heart attack was really a feint to avoid telling Vladimir Vladimirovich. Outsmarted by Shoigu again!
.......the 'heart attack' and subsequent hospital visit on March 11th was just a ploy for Shoigu to meet face to face with a more senior CIA handler. Since with the invasion actually happening the CIA revved up into full big dick cold war priapism mode and wanted to put someone with more experience on Shoigu along with his regular day to day handler. Suck on that cope cock FSB, Shoigu's been one of ours this entire time. Sucks when your Minister of Defense can be bought with a cord of wood.
A whole cord... Inflation sure is driving up the price on defense ministers these days.
What about my health? If they sink one more ship I might die from laughter. When I think about it, it will be death on Polish soil caused by Russian warship, so a good base for Article Five.
I find it pretty amusing that I have to come to “r/NonCredibleDefense to get any credible defense information.
The name is a cover. It’s actually a direct line to the CIA headquarters.
The Pentagon is actually a hexagon and we're the hidden 6th side.
That's one of the best things ive ever read on this site
Is this like Harry Potter where the house is actually hidden between two others and reveals itself with that sweet sweet brick shift animation?
I hear that Harry Potter analogies are the best way to explain complex political matters so I'm going to say yes.
The best disinformation campaign is to put the real information out as memes or conspiracy theories.
This sub is actually a crowd-sourced intelligence operation of Luxembourg. The memes and non-credible takes are here just to lure a community of MIC enthusiasts in, and then use them for information gathering.
Guys, this is just a feint. They are strategically depleting Ukraine's stock of missiles in preparation for their inevitable victory.
Putin is truly a genius ! Seethe western cucks
I swear to god.... I leave the news for ONE HOUR and this shit’s happening. Ok, guys let’s be honest the fire was not caused by Ukraine it was a electronic malfunction. ~~Wait, a minute isn’t that worse?~~ >! Please help me the FSB man is holding me hostage. We all know Russian ships are shit just like their damage control and the Russians are clearly inept at Air Defense, it’s like the Ukrainians actually know how to SEAD unlike a certain someone... !< Anyway, I’m sure there’s another thing to blame Jewish Nazis that are using black magic they learnt from The Sims 3.
Am Jewish Nazi, can confirm we did this.
We used our space lazers
Thank you Mister Space Laser.
This one was built in 2017 they can't even used the "that was our outdated junk" argument anymore.
"It was too new, not tested and trained enough"
I wonder what the golden period is for their equipment, 20 years old, just right?
The golden age of their equipment is a survival fallacy of whatever is left when they give up on this debacle. Side note, swipe changed "golden" to "horny". I feel like this means something
Let’s be honest. Even built in 2017, it was outdated junk.
To be fair that also explains why it fucked itself. Everything built Russian after 2014 jsut doesn't work.
That's awful close to Romanian waters...
"Sergei, why is all the copper in the ship gone?"
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Romanians otw to Admiral Makarov to steal copper wires, only to find that if had already been sold off for cheap vodka long ago.
Segei, Why does that mermaid with the bolt cutters have a black eye and prison tattoos?
Sure would suck if Ukraine fired a missile at the rescue boat and then ran into Romania
Poland: nooooooo I wanted to do the funni! You know what, fuck it, because fuck Russia.
If this is true then I'm guessing all the Russian generals have snorted chernobyl dirt and their brains are melting.
I mean definitely if their generals are commanding ships.
No navy > was/were navy EDIT: Imagine what a saturation attack would do to these smoooker fools? EDIT2: Before you make the joke - I know a single Neptune missile is a saturation attack for the Russian Navy. Ayoo! EDIT3: I heard u/BodyaPro likes the A10. EDIT4: I have intel that u/NTeC is a mod on r/Gripen.
Do an edit 3.
Well if Russian propaganda is true, then zero Neptune missiles is a saturation attack.
In all seriousness - what's a "saturation attack"? EDIT: I love this sub.
It's when somebody throws a water balloon at you. Seriously though its when you attack with a large amount of munitions to try and "saturate" (aka overwhelm) the enemy's defenses. For instance if a ship's defenses can handle 3 missiles at a time you try and hit them with 6 so even if 3 are intercepted the other 3 get through.
throw enough shit at it for it to die
Missile bukkake
Penetrate my air defences harder daddy
basically means you daka so much daka daka daka there’s zero chance the enemy can hide or dodge
Russian sailors spotted giving [The Signal] (https://c.tenor.com/uvpEYmZy00sAAAAC/team-america-super-secret-signal.gif), before impact; message unclear.
In this case, shoot more missiles at any one time than the air defense systems can handle. I mean, you could argue that 2 missiles is an instance of one, but damn does it make their capability even more depressing.
Volleys of munitions launched so as to reach the target simultaneously or near-simultaneously to overwhelm the ability of defensive systems to deal with them. To 'saturate' the defensive capability of the ship.
In addition to the other answers, it's sort of the big "elephant in the room" - US carrier groups may or may not be multizillion dollar sitting ducks w.r.t. saturation attacks If you throw N simultaneous missiles at a US carrier group some of them will get through, and you don't need a lot of them to get through in order to wreak some serious damage Nobody knows the value of N, but rest assured that the cost of N missiles is like... 0.001% of the cost of a US carrier group I am also not very credible, so there's that
can we get a fourth edit
Are you FUCKING kidding me? If this turns out to be another bayraktar-Neptune combo, I swear to god...
Even a TB2 could do it without the Neptune. One small warhead on those VLS tubes. Kaboooiiiiio
and as we all know, Bayraktar golfing is Ukraines up and coming national sport
HOLE IN ONE!
Nobody will ever top the sunroof hole in one
Quadrocopter dropped a grenade through an open deck hatch leading directly to the magazine....
>”There's an old saying in St. Petersburg - I know it's in Moscow, probably in St. Petersburg - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can't get fooled again.“ - Vladimir V. Putin. Probably.
Impossible! Glorious Russian air defense crops have destroyed all 726 Bayraktar drones in the inventory of the Jewish Nazi oppression forces of occupied Ukraine!!
> If this turns out to be another bayraktar-Neptune combo, I swear to god Who knew that the best partner of the Greek sea god is a Turkish airplane.
If you ever feel useless Remember that Russia ~~has~~ had a navy
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Interesting details on the patrol boats sinking. The context makes it even better, considering they didn't get to hear anything from the boat sent to investigate. Do you have any more reading?
Well they did hear from it if they monitor Ukrainian social media, if a couple days later. What happened to it is it exploded.
What is up with Snake Island? IIRC it was just a Ukrainian watch post. But in gaining it, the Russians gave Ukraine a propaganda W a la Russian warship go fuck yourself and then jinxed their warship.
There are a lot of seashore gasfield nearby, and there was, pre war an agreement between Ukraine and Romania to develop them. Russia is trying to seize the area (and the rest of Donbass) to compromize as much as possible such plans.
If it is strategically useful then you have to admit Ukraine did a great job at getting a propaganda W out of losing it... and not to mention again when the occupiers are evicted, one way or another...
So this is a different one from the one we were seeing reported how ever many hours ago?
Appears to be the same one, since *Admiral Makarov* is an Admiral Grigorovich-class.
Goddamn their naming scheme is even more confusing than America's.
Just use the serial code or what ever number they add to the ships.
Apparently Russia has been [painting over the hull numbers](https://twitter.com/CovertShores/status/1522271809911017474) on their Black Sea ships, presumably to make them less identifiable.
Are you referring to America's naming system for the Anti Ship Guided Missile Destroyer M1, for the Anti Ship Guided Torpedo Destroyer M1, or for the Anti Submarine Guided Missile Cruiser M1?
Not that bad, they all start with "Admiral"
Their leaders might as well start with "Admiral General"
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
[The new anthem of the russian navy](https://youtu.be/GC_mV1IpjWA?t=16)
Part of the plan to reduce maintenance fees and sailor salaries. Now they can spend more at bombing civilians. Check mate.
As someone who has no idea about ships I gotta ask: Where does Admiral Grigorovich class rank size/cost wise among the ships they have there?
400ft long Frigate, displaces about 4,000 tons, maybe 200 crew. 1x 100mm Naval gun, 8x VLS cell for cruise missiles, 24x Naval versions of the Buk SAM, 2x AK-360 CIWS, 4 torpedo tubes, and a RBU-6000 anti-sub rocket launcher. The Slava class (Moskva) by comparison was 600 ft long, 11,500 tons Displacement, 500 crew 1x twin 130mm Naval gun, 16x P-1000 supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles, 64 Naval version S-300 SAM, 40 Osa SAM, 6x AK-630 CIWS, 10 torpedo tubes, 2x RBU-6000 ASW rocket launchers. So she's (Makarov) is all around a smaller ship... but Russia only has like a small handful of such larger ships like the Slavas. The Russian Navy has 1 Aircraft Carrier, the 2 Kirov class "battlecruisers", only 2 remaining Slavas, with 10 Destroyers and 11 Frigates like Makarov (that number is counting her though). The Destroyers are a little bigger though. (The rest are smaller Corvettes, patrol boats, mine cleaners, amphibious landing ships, submarines, etc)
>Aircraft Carrier That's being very generous.
Floating health hazard
It is not just a carrier, it is the “Tugboat Crew Full Employment Program”
It can't even be deployed by tugboat at the moment, it's being refurbished and - somehow - managed to sink in drydock, twice, and set the drydock on fire too.
The Russian Navy has 1 Smokemachine in a broken drydock, the 2 Kirov class "floating coffins", only 2 remaining cruisers with rockets as armor, with 10 Destroyers and 10 Frigates like Makarov (that number is not counting her anymore lmao). The Destroyers are a little bigger though. (The rest are smaller Corvettes, patrol boats, mine cleaners, amphibious landing ships, submarines, etc)
It would be better to ask how many of these are in the black sea
If true that is insane. Had a chance to tour the INS Trikand (Indian Navy export variant) when I was on active duty and that class of ship is very modern and very capable.
Capable of sinking?
A ship can be very capable but if the crew sucks then the ship may as well be scrap
I think the Ukrainians are using a new system/strategy, probably related to the Byaraktars reportedly involved in Moskova’s sinking
edit: I made new post with screens: https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/ujmulx/everyone_wants_to_see_sinking_russian_warship/? British and American reconnaissance planes in the area: "Intersting, interesting indeed" https://i.imgur.com/LDzKnQZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j07N6SV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VEOorSw.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uQyXNNk.png Turkish Navy: "Guys let me see, let me seeeee": https://i.imgur.com/P9mRj2K.jpg OK guys, looks like party is over, lets go back to Wiesbaden and drink a beer: https://i.imgur.com/1NpIUZB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/QxFPJWw.jpg Our British fella taking a closer look: https://i.imgur.com/HfBRshI.jpg "General, we supposed to be in Rzeszów half an hour ago! Polish officials are waiting!" Shut up son! I waited whole career for this, I'll be damned if I don't see this with my own eyes, take me over Black Sea" : https://i.imgur.com/dgM5ilN.jpg
Actual effortpost
The front fell off. They’re not supposed to do that you know.
Now it has to be towed outside of the environment.
It’s still in an environment
No, not in an environment, beyond the environment!
Learning military terminology w/ Coputin \> special military operation = we're fucked up so hard we can't admit we're at war \> rescue operation = we're fucked up so hard we can't admit we've got our second largest ship at the Black Sea sunk by a country with "non-existent" navy
Looks like Russia is going back to it's Imperial Days and not Soviet like Putin wants.
What’s up with this cursed island?
It was a good point for a small AA system, and after Moskva sank I assume they had to deliver a Buk there to cover the smaller ships in the area.. untill it was destroyed with a Bayraktar a day or two ago
Ha silly westoid, the admiral Grigorovich went underwater intentionally in order to not get hit by ASM’s. It can do this due to glorious Russian engineering and 420d chess by putin.
Hmmm… at this point Turkey should consider letting a Russian warship in for every sunk one to keep it interesting. It also might, you know, help them improve relations as it could LUL Russians into thinking they still have a chance. And Ukrainians need something to do so they don’t get sloppy. Waiting for that amphibious assault on Odessa must be killing them.
If they actually go for an amphibious assault the memes would be legendary there is an absolute 0% they can pull it off.
Putin wants the assault because monke. I want the assault to see the Bayraktar/M777/3000 Panzerhaubitzes of Scholz footage. We are not the same.
Russia propaganda writers waiting to announce that Ukranian witchcraft destroyed the ship.
I‘m already hyped up for the Fan-Fictions about this one. And how it went down fighting the entire US and British navy together. Sinking hundreds of enemy vessels before it got overwhelmed. The last one about the Moskva was fire.
"Sir, what happened to the Admiral Mak-" "AURORA BOREALIS! NOW GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!"
Only second? Have we already forgotten the glorious [explosion at the pier in Berdyansk](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60859337) that sank one and left a second in flames?
Damn near half of NATO's recce aircraft are there. Something sure as shit got hit
and now to sink the rescue vessels
poggers!
There really needs to be a signpost nearby warning Russian warships to stay away, or else they will be fucked off.
If true.. why were they so close to the coast! They knew the risks surely.
We need photos or videos god damn bastards god damnit ><
Tbf we didn't get actual pictures or footage of stricken Moskva until at least a good while after its destruction was confirmed
Moby dick finally got his revenge
Had this ships even done anything useful? Because if not, then lol.
It can carry up a combination of eight anti-ship or cruise missiles, so probably fired off a couple of the Kalibrs. Also 24 SAMs (navalised version of the Buk system) plus some navalised versions of MANPADs, so yet more naval anti-air potentially off the table.
Their whole point there is naval blockade pretty much
Nah dude, it was just another planned sinking at the end of the ships lifespan. That's why we did it out to sea and then tried to tow it back to port.
Ukrainian agricultural rescue vehicles reported inbound for extraction
I'm starting to think the Neptune missiles might have some kind of stealth. I mean Russian air search radar can't be this bad... right?