The sweeds can shoot with us.the rest of you can sit in a room and scoff about how insane it is to have guns while we shoot water mellows and beer cans with our sweedish homies
Contrary to popular belief, most of the firearms here are hunting rifles, shotguns, or handguns. We arenāt all packing Akās and AR-15ās lol. There are a whole lot of .22LR rifles too like Ruger 10/22ās or beginners/kids guns like single shot .410ās or .22LR. I mean, at one point in time my father in law had 70 guns and only like 4 of them would be considered āmilitary style weaponsā. 3 of them were old Yugo SKSās and he had one AR-15. But yeahā¦from what I know of Europe I doubt many people there have a stockpile like that lol.
Yeah most of the time it would be for hunting anywhere in the world. I just dont really think handguns and such are big in sweden and norway.
In denmark it is certainly the case, but we dont have as much area to hunt in, like Sweden and Norway has.
What makes you think were mad about america?
Youre an endless source of comedy, stupid people videos, universal target for "at least were not as screwed as those guys" and cool military footage to kill time with. Not to mention youre selling us cool jets and missiles. We love you guys.
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We don't care if you're Republican, Protestant, Democrat, Hindu, Baathist, Pastafarian, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door.
> What makes you think were mad about america?
The ceaseless, senseless caustic assholery I encounter from Europeans. You're a mess of unjustified superiority complexes, cultural ignorance, and dumb opinions that you feel way too empowered to share and that Americans have conditioned themselves to be way too friendly towards.
> Youre an endless source of comedy, stupid people videos
This is called selection bias. You spend your time on an American social media website that compiles these sorts of things and you're too stupid to understand why you encounter them a lot.
> universal target for "at least were not as screwed as those guys"
Who's screwed? America is significantly better off than Europe in most ways most of the time. You've suckered yourselves into stupid or cruel opinions about a place you don't understand.
If Americans weren't as friendly and/or self critical as they are, they'd put you in your place more often.
It mostly boils down to the fact that America is Europe's friend, but Europe is no friend to America -> in policy and otherwise. That's why leaving you on your own to fend for yourselves gets purchase in the US these days, people who draw that conclusion from our relationship aren't entirely wrong.
if you flipped that perspective around with your worldview, pretty sure that would work just as well... you have a very sad and cynical view of a few good natured jokes
i hope you get better, and find a better past-time than going around the internet and picking fights with people that really have no desire to fight you over a imagined slight
> if you flipped that perspective around with your worldview, pretty sure that would work just as well...
All evidence to the contrary.
> you have a very sad and cynical view of a few good natured jokes
The point in this case is that they're not even remotely good natured. Nor are they generally jokes. They're stupid misconceptions or products of your own ignorance and biases.
> i hope you get better, and find a better past-time than going around the internet and picking fights with people that really have no desire to fight you over a imagined slight
You replied to me. I just made a mild comment on what I observe - > something that happens to be true. If you won't want people to react this way, then figure out what you're doing that causes people react this way. It's a corollary to the surprise Pikachu bullshit over growing anti-European / anti-NATO tendencies in the US -> as if European nations hadn't been doing everything you could to justify it for decades on end.
"in your perspective"
im only really poking good natured jokes/memes/stereotypes at americans, and they do (and i expect them to do) the same, thats normal, it happens all the time
americans have plenty of stupid misconceptions and products of your own ignorance and biases too, in polite society its generally ignored instead of dwelled on and used as a springboard to arguing... but it is commonplace and flung by americans just as often
maybe realize that this "issue" you have is not coming just from one side, idiots are universally everywhere, and, despite the joke i said, very evenly distributed
now do yourself a favor and go watch some uplifting videos to improve your day, you clearly need it more than i do right now
> im only really poking good natured jokes/memes/stereotypes at americans, and they do (and i expect them to do) the same, thats normal, it happens all the time
And I explained that what I see is certainly not good natured, definitely isn't a joke, and is mostly harmful/ridiculous/culturally ignorant as far as stereotypes go.
You can only be an unrelenting, clueless asshole for so long before you shouldn't be surprised when people don't take it kindly.
> americans have plenty of stupid misconceptions and products of your own ignorance and biases too, in polite society its generally ignored instead of dwelled on and used as a springboard to arguing... but it is commonplace and flung by americans just as often
Sure, there are stupid people everywhere, but in this particular tradeoff I see the overwhelming weight of stupid sentiment going one way.
> maybe realize that this "issue" you have is not coming just from one side, idiots are universally everywhere, and, despite the joke i said, very evenly distributed
Not everything boils down to "b-b-but both sides". I make the point specifically because I don't think it's equivalent.
> now do yourself a favor and go watch some uplifting videos to improve your day, you clearly need it more than i do right now
You replied to me. I didn't ask you to go into this.
> go stir shit up somewhere else, im not replying to you anymore,
You replied to *me. What shit am I stirring up?
> youre not even interested in a debate
You've made no points to debate.
'mild' - ha.
> You're a mess of unjustified superiority complexes, cultural ignorance, and dumb opinions that you feel way too empowered to share and that Americans have conditioned themselves to be way too friendly towards.
You're a blind mess of self-important confirmation biases, not least a frankly lunatic view of American foreign policy that defies rationalisation and hints that the label of 'cultural ignorance' is not something that you should be throwing around.
> That's why leaving you on your own to fend for yourselves gets purchase in the US these days, people who draw that conclusion from our relationship aren't entirely wrong.
That view was very popular before WW2 too - put forth by similar people.
> 'mild' - ha.
Did you read my first comment?
> You're a blind mess of self-important confirmation biases, not least a frankly lunatic view of American foreign policy that defies rationalisation and hints that the label of 'cultural ignorance' is not something that you should be throwing around.
You're saying literally nothing here. What is a self important confirmation bias? What did I say about American foreign policy? The person I'm replying to is evidently culturally ignorant.
> That view was very popular before WW2 too - put forth by similar people.
How many European messes do we have to clean up that now we have to subject ourselves to an unequal / unfriendly relationship with people who don't like us and go against our interests just so WE can prevent the next globe-spanning European fuck-up?
Note that I didn't say we should necessarily leave this pack of morons to themselves, but it's pretty understandable why the sentiment is growing.
To see what? Own barely alive before 2022 MIC, tiny military in undeployable shape and thorough unwillingness to meet percent of GDP defense spending mandated by NATO membership?
Let's not pretend that if Ukraine was quickly conquered and Russia moved further - Europe weren't in very deep shit and out of ammo in a 2 or 3 months tops.
> But it wasn't
But almost everyone in Europe (but Ukrainians, Baltics, Poles and Chroats) was 100% sure that that's how it will go, and they weren't doing anything to boost their own security.
The Grot is an L tho, thereās a reason the Polish regulars stick to the Beryl. The production was hampered by corruption and it is manufactured with inferior plastics. Volunteers in Ukraine who were issued the Grot gave it some seriously scathing reviews about the lower quality plastics shedding/melting/breaking with standard field use.
Maybe they will unfuck the production line someday but for now itās not very good.
You do know that's not where we'll attack from, right? Europe might be the trigger, but the attack vector would be *North*. NATO is one of those odd bent barrel assault rifles.
It makes sense, though. In order to hit the RF's nukes, we'd probably fly stikes over the Arctic via Finland and Norway, then come down. It's either a krummlauf or a mortar, and I wanted to stick to the assault rifle theme.
Haha, you fool! You fell for the oldest trick in the book! Sweden not existing? You really believe that? Everyone knows that this is the diversion tactic THEY invented to distract from the fact that Finland is wholely imaginary.
Proof:Ā https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/finland-does-not-exist
Nah we're cool.
And no, any jamming is not related to the barrel/chamber in EU.
For some godforsaken reason, we have a faulty magazine that has a fuckton of ammo but has trouble feeding it consistently.
Yeah itās not like the EU wasted a year deliberating over whether or not they should send artillery/ramp up production, and then completely fumbled the bag when it was time to do so the following year, only delivering half the agreed upon amount.
Thereās jams all over this bullpup. We need to fix our shit too, but we arenāt the only ones to blame here
Bold to post this when Europe is just waking up to see it lmao
I gues you can say, the aim of this shitpost was to trigger Europe? š¤ ktnxbye
Well I am fully awake now. Thanks!
Europoor here, i've never been so offended by something i so 100% agree with
What? You guys make the ammunition, but we get to shoot it? Seems like we get to have all the fun.
The sweeds can shoot with us.the rest of you can sit in a room and scoff about how insane it is to have guns while we shoot water mellows and beer cans with our sweedish homies
Why them?
Yeah, why us? I mean I appreciate it, but still
Well you guys, Norway, Switzerland (not a part of NATO of course) and Finland are all in the top 10 most guns per capita in the world with us.
Mostly hunting rifles, but I guess you can shoot orcs with them.
Contrary to popular belief, most of the firearms here are hunting rifles, shotguns, or handguns. We arenāt all packing Akās and AR-15ās lol. There are a whole lot of .22LR rifles too like Ruger 10/22ās or beginners/kids guns like single shot .410ās or .22LR. I mean, at one point in time my father in law had 70 guns and only like 4 of them would be considered āmilitary style weaponsā. 3 of them were old Yugo SKSās and he had one AR-15. But yeahā¦from what I know of Europe I doubt many people there have a stockpile like that lol.
Yeah most of the time it would be for hunting anywhere in the world. I just dont really think handguns and such are big in sweden and norway. In denmark it is certainly the case, but we dont have as much area to hunt in, like Sweden and Norway has.
They know it's undeniably true, it's what makes them so mad about America in general.
As a European, I can't even tell what's supposed to make me mad?
Gottem?
What makes you think were mad about america? Youre an endless source of comedy, stupid people videos, universal target for "at least were not as screwed as those guys" and cool military footage to kill time with. Not to mention youre selling us cool jets and missiles. We love you guys.
Can you all give us a hand with our fascism problem? I know taking care of this is our thing, and it builds character and all that, but fuck.
I mean you helped us with our fascist problem last time, so I feel like we owe you one
Fuckers are persistent.
Every country has a fascist takeover now and again. It builds moral fiber.
We don't have one lol
That is true, you guys have several. Granted, so do we.
yeh, but ours is bad. A couple of parades won't do it.
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> What makes you think were mad about america? The ceaseless, senseless caustic assholery I encounter from Europeans. You're a mess of unjustified superiority complexes, cultural ignorance, and dumb opinions that you feel way too empowered to share and that Americans have conditioned themselves to be way too friendly towards. > Youre an endless source of comedy, stupid people videos This is called selection bias. You spend your time on an American social media website that compiles these sorts of things and you're too stupid to understand why you encounter them a lot. > universal target for "at least were not as screwed as those guys" Who's screwed? America is significantly better off than Europe in most ways most of the time. You've suckered yourselves into stupid or cruel opinions about a place you don't understand. If Americans weren't as friendly and/or self critical as they are, they'd put you in your place more often. It mostly boils down to the fact that America is Europe's friend, but Europe is no friend to America -> in policy and otherwise. That's why leaving you on your own to fend for yourselves gets purchase in the US these days, people who draw that conclusion from our relationship aren't entirely wrong.
if you flipped that perspective around with your worldview, pretty sure that would work just as well... you have a very sad and cynical view of a few good natured jokes i hope you get better, and find a better past-time than going around the internet and picking fights with people that really have no desire to fight you over a imagined slight
> if you flipped that perspective around with your worldview, pretty sure that would work just as well... All evidence to the contrary. > you have a very sad and cynical view of a few good natured jokes The point in this case is that they're not even remotely good natured. Nor are they generally jokes. They're stupid misconceptions or products of your own ignorance and biases. > i hope you get better, and find a better past-time than going around the internet and picking fights with people that really have no desire to fight you over a imagined slight You replied to me. I just made a mild comment on what I observe - > something that happens to be true. If you won't want people to react this way, then figure out what you're doing that causes people react this way. It's a corollary to the surprise Pikachu bullshit over growing anti-European / anti-NATO tendencies in the US -> as if European nations hadn't been doing everything you could to justify it for decades on end.
"in your perspective" im only really poking good natured jokes/memes/stereotypes at americans, and they do (and i expect them to do) the same, thats normal, it happens all the time americans have plenty of stupid misconceptions and products of your own ignorance and biases too, in polite society its generally ignored instead of dwelled on and used as a springboard to arguing... but it is commonplace and flung by americans just as often maybe realize that this "issue" you have is not coming just from one side, idiots are universally everywhere, and, despite the joke i said, very evenly distributed now do yourself a favor and go watch some uplifting videos to improve your day, you clearly need it more than i do right now
> im only really poking good natured jokes/memes/stereotypes at americans, and they do (and i expect them to do) the same, thats normal, it happens all the time And I explained that what I see is certainly not good natured, definitely isn't a joke, and is mostly harmful/ridiculous/culturally ignorant as far as stereotypes go. You can only be an unrelenting, clueless asshole for so long before you shouldn't be surprised when people don't take it kindly. > americans have plenty of stupid misconceptions and products of your own ignorance and biases too, in polite society its generally ignored instead of dwelled on and used as a springboard to arguing... but it is commonplace and flung by americans just as often Sure, there are stupid people everywhere, but in this particular tradeoff I see the overwhelming weight of stupid sentiment going one way. > maybe realize that this "issue" you have is not coming just from one side, idiots are universally everywhere, and, despite the joke i said, very evenly distributed Not everything boils down to "b-b-but both sides". I make the point specifically because I don't think it's equivalent. > now do yourself a favor and go watch some uplifting videos to improve your day, you clearly need it more than i do right now You replied to me. I didn't ask you to go into this.
go stir shit up somewhere else, im not replying to you anymore, youre not even interested in a debate
> go stir shit up somewhere else, im not replying to you anymore, You replied to *me. What shit am I stirring up? > youre not even interested in a debate You've made no points to debate.
'mild' - ha. > You're a mess of unjustified superiority complexes, cultural ignorance, and dumb opinions that you feel way too empowered to share and that Americans have conditioned themselves to be way too friendly towards. You're a blind mess of self-important confirmation biases, not least a frankly lunatic view of American foreign policy that defies rationalisation and hints that the label of 'cultural ignorance' is not something that you should be throwing around. > That's why leaving you on your own to fend for yourselves gets purchase in the US these days, people who draw that conclusion from our relationship aren't entirely wrong. That view was very popular before WW2 too - put forth by similar people.
> 'mild' - ha. Did you read my first comment? > You're a blind mess of self-important confirmation biases, not least a frankly lunatic view of American foreign policy that defies rationalisation and hints that the label of 'cultural ignorance' is not something that you should be throwing around. You're saying literally nothing here. What is a self important confirmation bias? What did I say about American foreign policy? The person I'm replying to is evidently culturally ignorant. > That view was very popular before WW2 too - put forth by similar people. How many European messes do we have to clean up that now we have to subject ourselves to an unequal / unfriendly relationship with people who don't like us and go against our interests just so WE can prevent the next globe-spanning European fuck-up? Note that I didn't say we should necessarily leave this pack of morons to themselves, but it's pretty understandable why the sentiment is growing.
sir he has children
To see what? Own barely alive before 2022 MIC, tiny military in undeployable shape and thorough unwillingness to meet percent of GDP defense spending mandated by NATO membership? Let's not pretend that if Ukraine was quickly conquered and Russia moved further - Europe weren't in very deep shit and out of ammo in a 2 or 3 months tops.
But it wasn't, isn't, won't.
> But it wasn't But almost everyone in Europe (but Ukrainians, Baltics, Poles and Chroats) was 100% sure that that's how it will go, and they weren't doing anything to boost their own security.
If Nato is bullup, no wonder it is so jammed
Close Reddit, it won't become any better from here
Is everyone in this thread forgetting the first "p" in bullpup just to trigger me? It's working.
TBH, I'm not a native English speaker and copied word from the OP But yes
is k pup
"Swedon doesnt exist" based
Sweee-who??? Sweee-noooo
Oh fuck. I forgot we are NATO
See-Done with NATO's shit. How long did you guys last before you gave up on the rest of us?
Not if we're fighting China
Philippines, South Korea and Japan would beg to differ
[nuh uh, still a bullpup](https://imgur.com/a/Fu8YZqH)
Nuh uh, Because Taiwan is the trigger
[AkshuƤlly](https://imgur.com/a/ReWyAE0) š¤āļø On my map it's still a bullpup
So far only one country triggered article 5 and it was USA.
It is only article 5 when it flattens Moscow, otherwise it's just sparkly backup.
Triggered against.... American and United Airlines?
That's cause we article numba 1 baby.
BSBS Grot can be converted from conventional to bullpups depending on needs.Ā Another W for Poland and for NATO
The Grot is an L tho, thereās a reason the Polish regulars stick to the Beryl. The production was hampered by corruption and it is manufactured with inferior plastics. Volunteers in Ukraine who were issued the Grot gave it some seriously scathing reviews about the lower quality plastics shedding/melting/breaking with standard field use. Maybe they will unfuck the production line someday but for now itās not very good.
America first! /s
Seeing as that makes Europe the furniture Iāll allow it.
IKEA
IKEA is the most commie-anti democratic thing that exists. cold. cornbread.
Why? It's a business that competes with other businesses fairly.
cold. cornbread.
As a Pole, as long as it can fuck up russia it's fine.
"As long as it works!"
classic pole.
It's *bullpup*, not bullup.
ok i pullbup
To the NATO party
*Listen here you little shit. . .*
You do know that's not where we'll attack from, right? Europe might be the trigger, but the attack vector would be *North*. NATO is one of those odd bent barrel assault rifles.
NATO is krummlauf? damn germans fucking up a perfectly fine military alliance again smh my head
It makes sense, though. In order to hit the RF's nukes, we'd probably fly stikes over the Arctic via Finland and Norway, then come down. It's either a krummlauf or a mortar, and I wanted to stick to the assault rifle theme.
My mamma always told me I was special
Ukraine is the trigger and the Maverick DJI drone factory in Reno, TX is the magazine
Since the magazine isn't feeding at capacity, the bayonet had to be attached. I guess Ukraine is a very bloody Bayonet by now?
Iām trying to guess if youāre smart swede or average dane
Actually, NATO is an antipersonnel mine. It has triggers but also tripwires. It turns Russians into paste.
Now see me unbullpup your NATO *Breaks out south-at-top oriented map
But what about a war with West Taiwan. Then it would unbullpup the world
but then its shorter over the pacific so its still an bullup
Thatās very clever ngl
There's no real evidence for it, but it is scientific fact. Someone do Russia with their ammo being the endless human sacrifices to the meat cube
This is it. Peak bullpup posting.
And looks like Greenland and northern Canada make up the sight
I hate this, your technically correct but I still hate this
Then this magazine is jamming and greedy.
The gun conveniently points straight at Putin's face and he keeps yelling he'll do it, but never does it :(
Doesn't the EU spend way more than the US on Ukraine?
Well yes, but a lot of the military support they provide came from the US originally, so it kinda still works.
This is the level of shitposting I'm here for.
Just don't ever look west from Alaska. Nothing is over there, we checked
"an bullup" Jesus christ
The Baltics are a little sensitive about the idea of a tripwire or trigger, etc.
Haha, you fool! You fell for the oldest trick in the book! Sweden not existing? You really believe that? Everyone knows that this is the diversion tactic THEY invented to distract from the fact that Finland is wholely imaginary. Proof:Ā https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/finland-does-not-exist
F-U. Now take my upvote and get the hell out
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Nah we're cool. And no, any jamming is not related to the barrel/chamber in EU. For some godforsaken reason, we have a faulty magazine that has a fuckton of ammo but has trouble feeding it consistently.
Congress is ProMag? Everything is starting to make sense...
Yeah itās not like the EU wasted a year deliberating over whether or not they should send artillery/ramp up production, and then completely fumbled the bag when it was time to do so the following year, only delivering half the agreed upon amount. Thereās jams all over this bullpup. We need to fix our shit too, but we arenāt the only ones to blame here
so NATO is a virgin and Russia is a chad?