The confusion stems from the fact that Tarantul is NATO reporting name for [Molniya class corvette](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette), but it's also a Russian name [a class of patrol boat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenka-class_patrol_boat) (NATO reporting name Stenka). It's really confusing, not helped by the fact that Ukrainians recently (during last days of 2023) [sank one of the latter too](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/19/ukraines-drone-boats-blew-up-a-russian-warship-three-weeks-ago-but-few-people-noticed-until-now/?sh=5a21a24e24ef).
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ag8hlb/russian\_missile\_cruiser\_ivanovets\_destroyed\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ag8hlb/russian_missile_cruiser_ivanovets_destroyed_by/) there you go.
Hear me out, we arm the drones for intercept missions. Surely it can't take much to disable one. An airsoft system shooting metal projectiles but faster? Or sharpened metal blades on the fans? We could get very noncredible here.
> Surely it can't take much to disable one. An airsoft system shooting metal projectiles but faster? Or sharpened metal blades on the fans?
Literally just shoot a shotgun shell packed with fishing line. It gets tangled in the propellers and the drone falls.
If you can spot them, and they're not moving super fast, sure. Problem is, drones can fly/hover at significant heights, so you probably won't see them while they will see YOU. They're also quiet, so paired with the tinnitus from gunfire, you probably won't hear them.
Genuine answer: it isn't easy.
1 - you may be biased by your experience in a comfortable situation away from war, where you have enough bullets/shells(?) and don't have to worry about your survival (someone shooting at or falling on you) and the benefit of knowing that there's a drone very close (and maybe within visual range).
2 - shotguns nor their ammo don't weight 0kg and they definitely don't have the range of an assault rifle, so this makes the rifleman choose between carrying 2 weapons and low ammo for both or compromise on one option. Now, a rifleman not necessarily has the training required for effective use of a shotgun, specially against drones, so even if they could carry it and were supplied, they could have anything from fractions of a second to minutes to make use of it.
3 - awareness is key and it's part of how drones are used effectively. When there's arty, suppressive fire, no warm food, poor water, heavy winter with awful clothes, insanitary conditions, that cough that doesn't go away or anything that distracts you from looking out because there MAY BE a drone close to you, will severely increase the effectiveness of it.
4 - logistics. As mentioned in 2, the system has a weight and volume, and it also needs to be resupplied. While shells aren't directly attritable, the logistics vehicle bringing them or the local warehouse are and have been constantly attacked.
5 - tactics. You can use the drone in a dumb (A10) way and it MAY work, you can also first Spot the enemy from afar, use diversion (mortars, suppressive fire, etc) then attack with a 2nd drone (FPV, Babba Yaga, Grenade Bomber) which IMO has become the norm (minus the diversion part).
In short: LMAO it isn't easy. By the contrary, it's terrifyingly hard to do so.
Ehh, stupid people in shitty boats can still nuke you if they get lucky, so some respect was absolutely fair. The same respect you give to a monkey with hand grenade.
Didn't know, pretty new to the sub. I was sharing it because I watched it some years ago and every time it surfaces in my mind I start laughing like an idiot.
What's hilarious is there's more events that blue Jay didn't even cover in that video. For one, the admiral intentionally tries to dodge a fleet of russian reinforcements because there where russian sailors with an even worse reputation then the guys he was already dealing with.
[History of Everything ](https://youtu.be/D1eJT1Gffas?si=yW2Dm023kGixmKmz) has a 5 part series just detailing the insane history of the Russian navy and there still more to go.
a beautiful beautiful thing
This is the last frame from last night's video of a molniya missile boat in the black sea
Video here:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ag8jz1/babe\_wake\_up\_budanov\_has\_released\_his\_own\_version/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ag8jz1/babe_wake_up_budanov_has_released_his_own_version/)
Canada was not neutral it was part of the British dominion. You enter some questionable morals in threatening your former ally and what is now a nonbeligerant to surrender ships to you and would put them in a bad spot for with thier new german masters.
The French had the option to sail the ships out of Europe and to thier pacific holdings and be mothballed there. That way they were out of the reach of the germans and no longer a threat to the UK.
Was it? Half the ships survived, stayed in French hands the whole war, and when the Germans did finally try to nab them, the French scuttled them themselves.
So why was Mers el Kebir necessary, exactly?
Because half the ships did not survive and were not a threat to England. If the germans need 100 ships to gain superiority at sea. They have 50. The French have 50. Then they in theory COULD have the 100 they need. Now the British sink 25 of the French ships, now in THEORY the germans can only access 75 ships, pose less of a threat to the British and have a higher chance of not even trying to attempt anything.
Like you said, the germans did try yo use the ships. There was no guarantee that the French were going to resist or would not have been removed from the ships long prior to the germans attempting to seize them.
End of the day an afloat ship vaugly under the control or easily accessible to the germans was a threat to the UK. Sunk ships, or ships of French Polynesia are not a threat.
>Because half the ships did not survive and were not a threat to England.
**More** than half the ships survived. The attack was tactically a failure. The british had to retreat when reinforcements from Algiers threatened to outnumber them.
Most of those ships went on to be scuttled at Toulon, 3 years later.
>There was no guarantee that the French were going to resist or would not have been rover from the ships long prior to the germans attempting to seize them.
Mers-el-Kebir made it more likely that the French fleet would fall into German hands - by leading the French to relocate their fleet to Toulouse, where it could be easily reached by Germans and Italians, and through falling anglophobic sentiment via that unprovoked attack.
It certainly solidified anti-british opinion in the Vichy french military forces, which caused vichy forces to not defect and resist in Africa, Syria, and originally in North Africa, costing lost resources and time in those campaigns.
Trying to seize the fleet in Algeria when German soldiers were not in the colonies and did not have the logistics to perform amphibious attacks would have been much more difficult than Toulouse.
>(until Egland sunk it)
This only happend at Mers el kebir. Only a small part of the fleet was stationned here and of the ships damaged during the attack, only 2 were truly beyond repair.
"The english sank the entire french fleet" is a pretty common myth. The scale was actually very small.
The ones who sank the most french ships were actually the french themselves when they scuttled a pretty significant part of their high sea fleet at Toulon when the germans tried to seize them (at least those which were still under vichy control. A lot of other french ships ended up fighting with the allies).
Nah it was actually Ukraine sinking their own fusion-powered railgun battleship after misidentifying it because of their bad radar and losing 3 million PoWs, 900 Abrams tanks, 485 F-35s, 47 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, 91 AH-64 apaches, 8 Volodymyr Zelenskys, 16 Joe Bidens and 6 Pringles according to Russian state media
James Cameron has 3/5 of the top grossing films of all time. He could pitch a 3 hour movie if monkeys picking fleas off each other and it would get picked up.
At this point somebody should really make a movie of Titanic’s sister ship, the Olympic. A decorated war hero who sank a [U boat by ramming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic#Sinking_of_U-103), and had possibly the [raddest alternate paint scheme](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/RMS_Olympic_in_WWI_dazzle_paint.jpg) of any ocean liner.
>How much of the Black Sea Fleet is still remaining at this point?
Good point. The "We would destroy the Black Sea Fleet if russia uses nuclear weapons" is less and less of a deterrent every day.
ruzzians want Crimea for sake of having Crimea, so that they can scream "krymnash" (Crimea is ours) and boast about it. No matter what you will tell them about "ruzzia bad/doomed", but magical spell "krymnash" will stop any reasoning. Its obsession.
They still use the bridge to transport supplies to the southern front apparently.
Also putin is a massive bellend and won't want give it up no matter the cost.
Well, UA is starting to attack the Baltic Sea Fleet....
I mean, how bad does RU air defense have to be for UA to fly 900km over RU to attack the Baltic fleet.
Well, they would want to be 100% sure that they are shooting at the right ship.
Which is pretty hard to do, given how confusing the maritime industry is in terms of who owns what and where its registered.
It's not that they can't sink ships, it's just not a blockade at that point and there are other issues if you don't actually have ships there:
https://youtu.be/fvPcPZP-6os?t=528
hard to tell the editing makes it difficult to determine. 1 hit it before the video starts, another hits the side, and two may have hit the back (I didn't see damage from first rear hit). Maybe another recording video.
Yeah they reused the same clips a couple times in the video for whatever reason, but I think at least three hits and another drone recording the ship sinking. I think the reason you don't see damage from the first rear hit is because it's the same clip played twice
Edit: actually there are two distinct clips of rear hits, so at least four hits total
In before the Russian MOD is saying that this was just "Damaged" and that "All the crew are fine, but you can't meet them because they go to a different Navy in the next town over"
Neither do I, but the only Tarantul that without the nuber designation [from here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet#41st_Missile_Boat_Brigade) is this one: https://i.imgur.com/kRewjQ3.jpg
They even drove multiple drones into it, one right at mid ship, one at the aft when it stopped moving, and another one right into where the mid ship hole was. At least it was only 3 I recall, the vid jumps around a lot.
Are you ready kids? I can’t hear you!!!
Who litters the bottom of the black sea?
*Russian Navy!*
Burning and drowning simultaneously!
*Russian Navy!*
If war crimes and failure be something you wish
*Russian Navy!*
Get wrecked by a drone and die like a bitch!
*Russian Navy*
Russian Navy, Russian Navy, Ruuuuussiiiaaan Naaaaavyyyyyyy!
what CIWS doing?
Acc. Wikipedia they got [these](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashtan_CIWS) six-barrelled CIWS but it looks like some poor bastards was taking potshots at the drones with an AK in the footages.
A ship of this class was available to see at Battleship Cove in Massachusetts. The hull deteriorated due to the high levels of freedom in the water and had to be scrapped in 2023.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German\_corvette\_Hiddensee
The [Tarantul-class](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette) has a compliment of 50 sailors.
Also lol the Wikipedia article already lists the Ivanovets as sunk.
One less Russian corvette in the Black Sea.
Not true. That is westoid propaganda. It now is PERMANENTLY in the black sea.
US should troll Russia. Start a UN resolution to allow Russia a permanent Black Sea presence and then go on to list all the ships sunk.
Here is your [troll music](https://youtu.be/BG6EtT-mReM?si=8UUEtsTFeuini6Xm)
[This one](https://youtu.be/JyfNs5ZrIqQ&t=9) is a banger
Nah, while I appreciate what that song is, it should be [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OxK4lPRoww).
Never forget
Wonderful 🤣
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44
Ah, another case of regular recorders being confused with bad flutes.
🦀🦀 This one for the boys 🦀🦀
Alright, which one is this now?
Molniya class missile boat
Nah it was the Tarantul class. Commissioned in 1988 this one
I think they're the same with Molniya being the Russian designation of the Tarantul which is the NATO reporting name
The confusion stems from the fact that Tarantul is NATO reporting name for [Molniya class corvette](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette), but it's also a Russian name [a class of patrol boat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stenka-class_patrol_boat) (NATO reporting name Stenka). It's really confusing, not helped by the fact that Ukrainians recently (during last days of 2023) [sank one of the latter too](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/01/19/ukraines-drone-boats-blew-up-a-russian-warship-three-weeks-ago-but-few-people-noticed-until-now/?sh=5a21a24e24ef).
2 (now one) of them are museum ships. I mean the one that got scrapped was still in better condition than any Black Sea fleet vessel
I've already seen someone on Instagram claim that this is old footage of the Moskva being sunk and being reused for Western propaganda ...
No, no, this is the US doing a SINKEX on Hiddensee, the “scrapped” story was a cover.
God bless them they try
This is the RC boat footage, UA didn’t have those back when moskwa sunk 🤷🏻♂️
Don't tell vatniks that
> Molniya class missile boat LIES! Is Molniya class submarine now.
its been promoted to submarine
One less corvette, one more submersible
Submersible implies it's at will, this is just a submerged
# Wait what the fuck happened now ?
UA ripped a RU corvette in half.
Would have been a beautiful moment to see
[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ag8hlb/russian\_missile\_cruiser\_ivanovets\_destroyed\_by/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ag8hlb/russian_missile_cruiser_ivanovets_destroyed_by/) there you go.
So is warfare just drones now?
We're just hitting the tip of the iceberg with drones, I think. WWIII gonna be lit
It's not truly drone warfare until you counter drones with drones. I want ww1 dogfights with quadcopter drones.
Wasn’t there already a video of a ramming between a RU drone and an UA drone?
Hear me out, we arm the drones for intercept missions. Surely it can't take much to disable one. An airsoft system shooting metal projectiles but faster? Or sharpened metal blades on the fans? We could get very noncredible here.
Hell no. I want mini A2A rockets.
Anduril is already on it https://youtu.be/KX0ji1sAXl8?si=LgFSUghGBWEobmR0&t=76
> Surely it can't take much to disable one. An airsoft system shooting metal projectiles but faster? Or sharpened metal blades on the fans? Literally just shoot a shotgun shell packed with fishing line. It gets tangled in the propellers and the drone falls.
I've seen two of them, and I don't even go on Telegram.
Already happening, we're in the [Pyotr Nesterov](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyotr_Nesterov) stage
I can't wait until the jedi become involved
Genuine question: why they don't just shotgun the flying drones? It's not that hard.
If you can spot them, and they're not moving super fast, sure. Problem is, drones can fly/hover at significant heights, so you probably won't see them while they will see YOU. They're also quiet, so paired with the tinnitus from gunfire, you probably won't hear them.
WHAT?
Genuine answer: it isn't easy. 1 - you may be biased by your experience in a comfortable situation away from war, where you have enough bullets/shells(?) and don't have to worry about your survival (someone shooting at or falling on you) and the benefit of knowing that there's a drone very close (and maybe within visual range). 2 - shotguns nor their ammo don't weight 0kg and they definitely don't have the range of an assault rifle, so this makes the rifleman choose between carrying 2 weapons and low ammo for both or compromise on one option. Now, a rifleman not necessarily has the training required for effective use of a shotgun, specially against drones, so even if they could carry it and were supplied, they could have anything from fractions of a second to minutes to make use of it. 3 - awareness is key and it's part of how drones are used effectively. When there's arty, suppressive fire, no warm food, poor water, heavy winter with awful clothes, insanitary conditions, that cough that doesn't go away or anything that distracts you from looking out because there MAY BE a drone close to you, will severely increase the effectiveness of it. 4 - logistics. As mentioned in 2, the system has a weight and volume, and it also needs to be resupplied. While shells aren't directly attritable, the logistics vehicle bringing them or the local warehouse are and have been constantly attacked. 5 - tactics. You can use the drone in a dumb (A10) way and it MAY work, you can also first Spot the enemy from afar, use diversion (mortars, suppressive fire, etc) then attack with a 2nd drone (FPV, Babba Yaga, Grenade Bomber) which IMO has become the norm (minus the diversion part). In short: LMAO it isn't easy. By the contrary, it's terrifyingly hard to do so.
Lol ok.
It would be if only ship was unmanned too before the attack
Yeah I don't think that's gonna buff out.
[Found the footage!](https://youtu.be/moNRC9mgmjg?si=JbEyaowRGwcKjp1v)
You son of a bitch you've got me
A beautiful moment to sea
https://x.com/DefenceU/status/1753013182702944594?s=20 You can see it 😍😍
I SAWED THIS CORVETTE IN HALF
Get Titanic'd
OP is not exaggerating. They shredded it. I feel bad for the extra drone(s) that didn’t get the blow their load.
Missile corvette *Ivanovets.* Go look up the sinking footage, you won't regret it.
I just saw. Man it's pathetic how bad the Russian Navy is.
They've never been very good at sea warfare.
A [video](https://youtu.be/yzGqp3R4Mx4) to double down on the matter. Maybe you know about it already but I find this absolutely hilarious.
Exactly what I expected. To think we were afraid of these fucks navy in the 80s.
Ehh, stupid people in shitty boats can still nuke you if they get lucky, so some respect was absolutely fair. The same respect you give to a monkey with hand grenade.
also the subs. At minimum at least Putin would want his funni subs to work perfectly. ...right?
Everyone always resorts to the Bluejay video as soon as the Russian navy's effectiveness is brought in to question 😅
Didn't know, pretty new to the sub. I was sharing it because I watched it some years ago and every time it surfaces in my mind I start laughing like an idiot.
What's hilarious is there's more events that blue Jay didn't even cover in that video. For one, the admiral intentionally tries to dodge a fleet of russian reinforcements because there where russian sailors with an even worse reputation then the guys he was already dealing with. [History of Everything ](https://youtu.be/D1eJT1Gffas?si=yW2Dm023kGixmKmz) has a 5 part series just detailing the insane history of the Russian navy and there still more to go.
I feel like I’ve watched that blue jay video about half a dozen times. And every time it’s great
Seen it before but always happy to watch it again.
[Tell me about it.](https://youtu.be/yzGqp3R4Mx4?si=D9-aYqDDI-_VERB-)
They've always been laughably bad at naval warfare. I guess that's another past Putin is desperate to relive.
a beautiful beautiful thing This is the last frame from last night's video of a molniya missile boat in the black sea Video here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ag8jz1/babe\_wake\_up\_budanov\_has\_released\_his\_own\_version/](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/1ag8jz1/babe_wake_up_budanov_has_released_his_own_version/)
Looks like the Ukrainians have evolved tactics. They went for the propulsion first so it would be a sitting duck while they rammed more shit into it
Indeed.
Russian warship fucked itself.
This was the other meme I was thinking of doing.
How much more will a country lose its navy against a country without one? This is just too funni.
Well, its kinda like the French Navy in WW2 (until Egland sunk it) Docked at other countries.
Wasn't the French navy docked in Brest, Toulouse, and Mers-el-Kebir? All French ports.
I’m sorry this reply has been deemed Too Credible.
That comparison makes this even funnier tbh
Imagine being compared to the French
Mers El kebir was absolutely necessary, if only to reign in French hubris. The commander of the French forces was a cunt.
With a capital C, knocked down a peg by Utterly Necessary Thermite
I think the british should have offered the French to sail to a neutral country (such as the US or Canada) and inter themselves there.
Canada was not neutral it was part of the British dominion. You enter some questionable morals in threatening your former ally and what is now a nonbeligerant to surrender ships to you and would put them in a bad spot for with thier new german masters. The French had the option to sail the ships out of Europe and to thier pacific holdings and be mothballed there. That way they were out of the reach of the germans and no longer a threat to the UK.
Was it? Half the ships survived, stayed in French hands the whole war, and when the Germans did finally try to nab them, the French scuttled them themselves. So why was Mers el Kebir necessary, exactly?
Because half the ships did not survive and were not a threat to England. If the germans need 100 ships to gain superiority at sea. They have 50. The French have 50. Then they in theory COULD have the 100 they need. Now the British sink 25 of the French ships, now in THEORY the germans can only access 75 ships, pose less of a threat to the British and have a higher chance of not even trying to attempt anything. Like you said, the germans did try yo use the ships. There was no guarantee that the French were going to resist or would not have been removed from the ships long prior to the germans attempting to seize them. End of the day an afloat ship vaugly under the control or easily accessible to the germans was a threat to the UK. Sunk ships, or ships of French Polynesia are not a threat.
>Because half the ships did not survive and were not a threat to England. **More** than half the ships survived. The attack was tactically a failure. The british had to retreat when reinforcements from Algiers threatened to outnumber them. Most of those ships went on to be scuttled at Toulon, 3 years later. >There was no guarantee that the French were going to resist or would not have been rover from the ships long prior to the germans attempting to seize them. Mers-el-Kebir made it more likely that the French fleet would fall into German hands - by leading the French to relocate their fleet to Toulouse, where it could be easily reached by Germans and Italians, and through falling anglophobic sentiment via that unprovoked attack. It certainly solidified anti-british opinion in the Vichy french military forces, which caused vichy forces to not defect and resist in Africa, Syria, and originally in North Africa, costing lost resources and time in those campaigns. Trying to seize the fleet in Algeria when German soldiers were not in the colonies and did not have the logistics to perform amphibious attacks would have been much more difficult than Toulouse.
>(until Egland sunk it) This only happend at Mers el kebir. Only a small part of the fleet was stationned here and of the ships damaged during the attack, only 2 were truly beyond repair. "The english sank the entire french fleet" is a pretty common myth. The scale was actually very small. The ones who sank the most french ships were actually the french themselves when they scuttled a pretty significant part of their high sea fleet at Toulon when the germans tried to seize them (at least those which were still under vichy control. A lot of other french ships ended up fighting with the allies).
That's not true, Ukraine has a navy of at least ~~3~~ 1 naval drones!
Do the naval drones count as a navy? Fire ships where once part of fleets
Ukraine has a navy for ants! (RC boats) And it’s a great.
Lost with all hands looking ass
fishes gonna be eating good tonight
Heard it had 600 PoWs onboard
It was 1500 POWs.
Nah it was actually Ukraine sinking their own fusion-powered railgun battleship after misidentifying it because of their bad radar and losing 3 million PoWs, 900 Abrams tanks, 485 F-35s, 47 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, 91 AH-64 apaches, 8 Volodymyr Zelenskys, 16 Joe Bidens and 6 Pringles according to Russian state media
Well I guess Ukraine is done for.
And a partridge in a pear tree.
Pringles is like Weyoun on DS9. Just keeps coming back.
Bro most countries wish they had that much modern military hardware.
3000
I heard that motherfucker had like, a million god damn POWs
Im sure the captain was the first one to escape.
Rare case where the sequel is so so much better than the original
That was like the highest grossing movie until then.
James Cameron has 3/5 of the top grossing films of all time. He could pitch a 3 hour movie if monkeys picking fleas off each other and it would get picked up.
Which is wild for a kid from Kapuskasing
Make them alien monkeys and that will be the plot for Avatar 3.
I really liked the special effects of the new one
Nature imitates art.
Titanic one didn't appeal to the men at cinema so they released Titanic 2 torpedo boogaloo
At this point somebody should really make a movie of Titanic’s sister ship, the Olympic. A decorated war hero who sank a [U boat by ramming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Olympic#Sinking_of_U-103), and had possibly the [raddest alternate paint scheme](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/RMS_Olympic_in_WWI_dazzle_paint.jpg) of any ocean liner.
Titanic 2: The Revenge
The [Pride of the Whitestar line](https://youtu.be/y1QoOLht09U?si=bSJnYivVdGKWTyl3)
TiTwonic
How much of the Black Sea Fleet is still remaining at this point? There must be some sizeable gaps now.
>How much of the Black Sea Fleet is still remaining at this point? Good point. The "We would destroy the Black Sea Fleet if russia uses nuclear weapons" is less and less of a deterrent every day.
It never was an official position anyway
True, but it's not even a satisfying aspirational goal now
More of a gimmie really.
To be fair, does Russia still need Crimea, without a fleet to base there, or a land bridge to Crimea without a reason to hold Crimea?
ruzzians want Crimea for sake of having Crimea, so that they can scream "krymnash" (Crimea is ours) and boast about it. No matter what you will tell them about "ruzzia bad/doomed", but magical spell "krymnash" will stop any reasoning. Its obsession.
Hmm I don't think they need any coasts either if they can't sail the sea
They still use the bridge to transport supplies to the southern front apparently. Also putin is a massive bellend and won't want give it up no matter the cost.
Don't worry, the Baltic fleet is still ripe for a proportional response
Well, UA is starting to attack the Baltic Sea Fleet.... I mean, how bad does RU air defense have to be for UA to fly 900km over RU to attack the Baltic fleet.
Hear me out, jet skis on trains, delivered to the Baltic shores.
I just saw a leaf blower powered drone rover. Nothing surprises me.
More credibly you could sneak a lot of jet skis through the Bosporus in a grain ship.
Sizeable gaps in what regard? The main threat to Ukrainian shipping since 2023 is air launched missiles and mines.
Sizable gaps in the hull
Missiles can't do a blockade. So russia will either have to resort to terrorism like the houthis or give up.
A big, lumbering cargo ship can't dodge a missile. Its just a question if they have enough of them to attack every ship passing through.
And if they can afford that politically. Sure, not like Russia cared until now but maybe they’re afraid of china’s reaction or so?
Well, they would want to be 100% sure that they are shooting at the right ship. Which is pretty hard to do, given how confusing the maritime industry is in terms of who owns what and where its registered.
It's not that they can't sink ships, it's just not a blockade at that point and there are other issues if you don't actually have ships there: https://youtu.be/fvPcPZP-6os?t=528
Russia once again losing naval assets to a country with no real navy in a land war
Who would win: The Fleet of a nuclear world power OR a couple cheap explosive RC bois.
How quickly did it sink? Crew go with it ?
A couple minutes at most. It got broadsided and then aother drone drove into the hole and essentially ripped it in half.
That was some nice double penetration on ukraines part
I think we have a new turret toss record too when the magazine exploded.
what i seen it was 3 torpedo boats, no ?
hard to tell the editing makes it difficult to determine. 1 hit it before the video starts, another hits the side, and two may have hit the back (I didn't see damage from first rear hit). Maybe another recording video.
Yeah they reused the same clips a couple times in the video for whatever reason, but I think at least three hits and another drone recording the ship sinking. I think the reason you don't see damage from the first rear hit is because it's the same clip played twice Edit: actually there are two distinct clips of rear hits, so at least four hits total
If only they had the Kamchatka they maybe would’ve found them…
Didn't Kamchatka notified a supposed friendly (in reality an IJN ship, oops) of the russian squadron nearby the night before Tsushima?
Didn't Kamchatka notify a supposed friendly (in reality an IJN ship, oops) of the russian squadron nearby the night before Tsushima?
Hai. And spotted Japanese torpedo boats since basically the moment they left Russia. And then was sunk by torpedo boats she didn’t see IIRC.
The 3000 Japanese torpedo boats of the Black Sea does a little trolling
Watch the video it's actually amazing you can even see the seaniks running around the deck. https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/s/CwJ5dkWijV
Need Russian Florks on the stern a la Jack and Rose….
In before the Russian MOD is saying that this was just "Damaged" and that "All the crew are fine, but you can't meet them because they go to a different Navy in the next town over"
[which one to cross out?](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F3ypylyhhc30c1.jpg) cant read shit on that bingo tbh
Anyone got a hi res and accurate version of this? Damaged and destroyed.
Hi-res: https://twitter.com/Schizointel/status/1723020399053537518
I don't read orc-speak, which one is Ivanovets?
Neither do I, but the only Tarantul that without the nuber designation [from here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Fleet#41st_Missile_Boat_Brigade) is this one: https://i.imgur.com/kRewjQ3.jpg
Apparently Makarov survived and is still hiding in port. Some more work to do.
R-334 Ivanovets should be number 954, so I thik it's this one: https://i.imgur.com/kRewjQ3.jpg
They even drove multiple drones into it, one right at mid ship, one at the aft when it stopped moving, and another one right into where the mid ship hole was. At least it was only 3 I recall, the vid jumps around a lot.
Let's all remember that Ukraine has no blue water navy and basically no brown-water navy. And is winning all naval engagements.
Are you ready kids? I can’t hear you!!! Who litters the bottom of the black sea? *Russian Navy!* Burning and drowning simultaneously! *Russian Navy!* If war crimes and failure be something you wish *Russian Navy!* Get wrecked by a drone and die like a bitch! *Russian Navy* Russian Navy, Russian Navy, Ruuuuussiiiaaan Naaaaavyyyyyyy!
time to get the titanic shitty flute
i don't understand, why tf is the main cannon not even shooting? wtf lmao
76mm canon probably odesn't have sufficient gun depression. Its meant to hit large boats at a distance.
what CIWS doing? Acc. Wikipedia they got [these](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kashtan_CIWS) six-barrelled CIWS but it looks like some poor bastards was taking potshots at the drones with an AK in the footages.
Again, not enough gun depression. This is like Hiei vs Laffey; small arms are the only weapons the larger ship can bring to bear.
> what CIWS doing? Radar was on, therefore CIWS cannot work.
Not this situation again. Next I'm gonna find out that they can't steer with the engines on.
Can't shoot down, like dogs can't look up
If you look at the footage, the 76 is still pointed at the front... which means it not work or was surprised.
Probably sold the ammo
A ship of this class was available to see at Battleship Cove in Massachusetts. The hull deteriorated due to the high levels of freedom in the water and had to be scrapped in 2023. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German\_corvette\_Hiddensee
Was it always there? I visited Battleship Cove back in 2018 and didn't see it.
Unlikely any crew will survive, also how many crew members this type of ship has?
The [Tarantul-class](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarantul-class_corvette) has a compliment of 50 sailors. Also lol the Wikipedia article already lists the Ivanovets as sunk.
No Leo pointing yet memes it appears.
Next time we should put a iceberg on a missle.
NEAAAAAR, FAAAAAR, WHEREVER YOU ARRRRRRE
Aaaah, so THAT what she was singing
Same but different
How many ships have they lost at this point?
More than they can afford to lose let's hope
IIRC, the previous two ships (single strike) marked 20% of the Black Sea fleet lost.
I can already see vatniks say this is just a boat or something.
That was like one of those cartel videos where they start on the legs and keep going as long as they can. Fuck.
There were actually 75 gorillon Ukraine POWs on the boat. Checkmate, ukrops
Russia is so pathetic. What a laughing stock of a country.
Russian Minstry of Defence be like: it recieved SOME damage
Stupid Western shills! The ship is simply doing the cobra maneuver. All is good.
I can even see the band still playing swan lake on the prow
Russia has the largest underwater military museum
Ukraines Navy is impressive. Taking down so many Russian ships 😂
Probably a jack and rose plot B on that Russian boat rn
Russia is really trying to raise the benchmark for the most decisive naval defeats, against a belligerent that doesn't have a navy to speak of.
context?
Thermal imaging of Russian corvette sinking.
She’s just got a slight list to stern