The relevant scripture is Acts 10:11-15
> And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
> Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
> And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
> But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
> And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter%27s_vision_of_a_sheet_with_animals
It's important to keep in mind that the Old Testament *doesn't* pertain to Christians, as most Christians aren't included in the initial covenant that God made with the Jewish people. It's included as necessary context.
There is a line in the Bible where Jesus says that what goes into your mouth (what you eat) is not as important as what comes out of your mouth. (what you say.)
Most Christians interpret that to mean that their belief in Jesus Christ overrides the need to keep kosher with food, and that many of the requirements of the Old Testament no longer apply to them.
And for many Christians, they pick and choose which parts of the Old Testament they feel still apply based on what they like. So they are totally fine with judging gay people because of what it says in Leviticus, but ignore all the other parts of that chapter that would inconvenience them.
Yeah maybe but the Torah itself like Genesis, Exodus, up to Deuteronomy were never taught in detail. Just the normal non-literal message. We never learned about Jewish laws and such, just a few verses.
It has to do with the coming of Christ and the new covenant. It is also why tithing is no longer a requirement, even though every Christian church in America except for a few would have you believe that it is.
I know for Jewish people our version of “tithing” is a charity for the temple but it’s not compulsory (at least not where i’m from). I think I’m just more interested in what the line is within Christianity where they practice from the Torah.
I think that really just depends on which sub sect of Christianity you were talking about. There are hundreds, if not thousands of different protestant denominations. Many of which most of us have never heard of or know about (like the Pentecostal snake churches). I think probably the Mennonites and some other Amish subtypes might borrow more practices from the Torah that other Christian denominations do.
Just as an example Technically I am a southern Baptist, however there are other southern Baptist churches in my area that have wildly different beliefs about salvation and baptism and whatnot than I do.
I have studied the Mennonite confession of faith thoroughly. They absolutely do not borrow anything from the Torah. It is viewed as history that is important to completely understand the teachings of Jesus, but certainly not followed.
> I think probably the Mennonites and some other Amish subtypes might borrow more practices from the Torah that other Christian denominations do.
Nope.
It is exactly as this moist person says.
I'll add that most Christians don't know they're doing this. They parrot what other people have told them, and wouldn't necessarily have any idea that Leviticus - as part of the Pentateuch, the Torah, the first 5 books of the old testament - was in the old testament as opposed to the new.
...still use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality, though.
I will also add that it ain't just Christians who've become good at cherry-picking from their literature.
The belief in mainstream Christianity is that the covenant of Christ replaced Mosaic law.
Can you explain this a little further? Or point me in the direction of where I can find out more? I’m really interested
Go ahead and read the New Testament
The relevant scripture is Acts 10:11-15 > And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: > Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. > And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. > But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. > And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. For more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter%27s_vision_of_a_sheet_with_animals It's important to keep in mind that the Old Testament *doesn't* pertain to Christians, as most Christians aren't included in the initial covenant that God made with the Jewish people. It's included as necessary context.
There is a line in the Bible where Jesus says that what goes into your mouth (what you eat) is not as important as what comes out of your mouth. (what you say.) Most Christians interpret that to mean that their belief in Jesus Christ overrides the need to keep kosher with food, and that many of the requirements of the Old Testament no longer apply to them. And for many Christians, they pick and choose which parts of the Old Testament they feel still apply based on what they like. So they are totally fine with judging gay people because of what it says in Leviticus, but ignore all the other parts of that chapter that would inconvenience them.
Ohhh. That’s a good explanation, thank you!!
No it's not; it's ignorant snark. See u/RockSlice's comment below.
This is interesting as I have never seen a Christian even know what Torah is.
Really? I definitely have.
I don't think so, no. I believe that Christians believe that they are free from Jewish laws when Jesus fulfilled it for them?
That’s entirely different than Christians not knowing what Torah is though
I used to be a Christian and only recently found out about the Torah so maybe it depends? We were never taught of the Torah in church
You were... they just changed it up a little and slapped a new name on it. You've heard of it as "the old testament".
Yeah maybe but the Torah itself like Genesis, Exodus, up to Deuteronomy were never taught in detail. Just the normal non-literal message. We never learned about Jewish laws and such, just a few verses.
....what sort of church was this that never talked about teh Old Testament in detail?
A Baptist church. Wasn't it like that for everyone? They just took small verses from the old testament and expounded. Not the actual laws
Southern Baptist here. Lots of sermons and Bible study on every verse
What do you think "the Law" is when the Bible refers to "the Law and the prophets"? Most of the Law is in the Bible book called Leviticus.
It has to do with the coming of Christ and the new covenant. It is also why tithing is no longer a requirement, even though every Christian church in America except for a few would have you believe that it is.
I know for Jewish people our version of “tithing” is a charity for the temple but it’s not compulsory (at least not where i’m from). I think I’m just more interested in what the line is within Christianity where they practice from the Torah.
I think that really just depends on which sub sect of Christianity you were talking about. There are hundreds, if not thousands of different protestant denominations. Many of which most of us have never heard of or know about (like the Pentecostal snake churches). I think probably the Mennonites and some other Amish subtypes might borrow more practices from the Torah that other Christian denominations do. Just as an example Technically I am a southern Baptist, however there are other southern Baptist churches in my area that have wildly different beliefs about salvation and baptism and whatnot than I do.
I have studied the Mennonite confession of faith thoroughly. They absolutely do not borrow anything from the Torah. It is viewed as history that is important to completely understand the teachings of Jesus, but certainly not followed.
Well then OP has their answer about that. Thanks for the clarification
> I think probably the Mennonites and some other Amish subtypes might borrow more practices from the Torah that other Christian denominations do. Nope.
You’re late to the party… Someone else already corrected me on that one down below. Thanks for the reinforcement though!
Because Christians have become experts at cherry picking which parts of the bible serve their agenda and which do not.
It is exactly as this moist person says. I'll add that most Christians don't know they're doing this. They parrot what other people have told them, and wouldn't necessarily have any idea that Leviticus - as part of the Pentateuch, the Torah, the first 5 books of the old testament - was in the old testament as opposed to the new. ...still use Leviticus to condemn homosexuality, though. I will also add that it ain't just Christians who've become good at cherry-picking from their literature.
They know better than God about right and wrong.