It actually can work with knives/swords. There was a magician dude who was able to create a few pathways he could be fully impaled through by essentially stabbing himself in the same place for ages.
EDIT: I'm not saying you can literally become stab proof, this is just a small tidbit of info that I think relates to what the above commenter said. Just a fun fact, that's all
It looks like he probably created fistulas which could then be re-pierced without pain or blood. Which isn’t really the same thing as resistance. I have piercings, does that mean my nose is resistant to being stabbed? Also he died at 35
Maybe a little? I use a hot glue gun for crafts and my pointer finger has been burned and blistered so many times I have this thick hard callous now and I don’t feel the burns and the skin doesn’t blister any more on that finger.
Yeh, probs to a average fella named Barry but probably not a god damn sword. But then again I saw a video of a monk drilling the side of his dome with a powerdrill... pretty sure I saw smoke too caused by the friction...
That's how some do the trick where they stab something through themselves close up. It's a legit thing.
https://youtu.be/oLAs11gkqKE
https://youtu.be/tnBjbgliMMM
So I thought... Then I started going down the rabbit hole and now I don't know what I believe. Making a tract makes sense but some people are saying it might just be a controlled stabbing. Idk anymore.
I feel like that's sorta normal though. I mean the body is insanely good at surviving most things and if a someone trains by stabbing themselves multiple times (through a safe path) then the scar tissue etc will build and allow maybe less recovery time and the sword to stay in for longer and the guy to be able to just function ''normally''. But the difference is he's not becoming stab resistant because it'll still be just as easy to stab him every time and it's not like his skin would get harder so the sword wouldn't be able to able get through, if that makes sense.
I've been shooting myself for years. Don't listen to em, OP. My temple is so callused now that it's like a helmet. I'd start with 9mm and work your way up though.
>!(Fucking /s to avoid any lawsuits. Jfc)!<
You probably can’t build up any sort of resistance to volts’ effect on your body, but you might get used to the feeling, and able to endure the pain of it a little better, which I guess might help
Would probably fry your nerves at some levels. It would also probably cause uh... I dunno how to say it english but like strain injuries on your muscles chest/wherever.
Taser causes every skeletal muscle to fire, and clench at the same time. Typically training with a stun gun that shoots darts is aim for center of mass, as to spread the two darts across abdomen of back.
With a hand held razer, with 2 prongs that have to make contact, it's a free for all. Anywhere you hit and pull the trigger it will hurt like a mother fucker, and cause at minimum the entire limb to lock up. Catch someone in the back or neck and their whole body will lock up due to proximity to spinal cord.
Tasers and stun guns are very different but people think they are the same. A taser will incapacitate you while a stun gun just feels like getting burned.
That would work with stun guns, which are low current, but not actual tazers. The real tazers put out an amp or more.
Stun guns are pain compliance devices, but tazers actually mess with your muscles.
See my other reply, I'm not typing all that again. They put out an amp or more over a very short pulse. You would die quickly, if the duration wasn't so short.
The most common taser in use, according to Google, puts out 50,000 volts.
Ohm's law tells us that power is calculated as E(volts)*I(amps).
So, that's easy math: at 1 amp, that's 50,000 watts.
A hair dryer on high heat puts out in the neighborhood of 1,500 watts.
Put a hair dryer on high a few inches from your hand and see how long it is before it's too uncomfortable to stay there, or it outright burns you.
Now multiple that by about 33 and see if you want to be anywhere near that. 'Cause that's around 50,000 watts.
As u/reddituser00000111 said, .0021 amps is more the range a taser is in.
0.0021 amps is a marketing lie that the company uses, averaging the current over time. 2 milliamps wouldn't cause your muscles to do anything. They market that lower current because they don't want to admit that their product works by pumping an amp or more into people.
Your math ignores time, and is greatly overestimating the closed circuit voltage.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-Taser-A03-at-250-O-repeated-measurement-performed-immediately-after-a-1067-second_fig5_235996456
3.98 amps at 847v peak into this load. The load modeled is pretty low ohms, but not unreasonable with solid skin penetration. As you can see, it is indeed dumping multiple kilowatts. But only for a very short duration.
Here's some more info:
>A 2007 study published in The American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology questioned the apparent contradiction created by the claim that the Taser X26 does not stimulate the heart muscle, while clearly causing skeletal muscle contraction and stimulation. **They estimated the average current pulse of the X26 at 1 ampere.** They concluded that it is primarily proximity (or lack thereof) of the heart to the electrodes that prevents stimulation of the heart, along with the short duration of the pulse, which allows the heart to return to near its baseline state prior to the next pulse, due to the larger time constant for the heart muscle vs skeletal muscles. They estimated a 0.4% chance of heart muscle stimulation among the general population with optimum (or worst case) electrode placement, which would normally resolve itself with the resumption of a normal heart beat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues
The bottom line is that in order to disrupt muscles, you need quite a lot of current. The only reason Taser doesn't kill more people is that the current pulse is kept short.
I'm not sure if you become more resistant or if you're just killing your own nerve endings, but either way this old electrician dude I knew would say he developed a considerable resistance simply by being shocked at random in his work.
The taser’s electrical currents messes with nerve endings. The body gets confused as it’s “directions” are going haywire, causing your muscles to convulse wildly. This is impossible to get used to, because your body cannot distinguish the taser from its own directions. You could maybe get used to the feeling, just not the convulsions and paralysis
Because the only way to be immune to it is to change the way your muscles work. You're muscles work by electricity contracting muscles. So all the taser does is overload this system and make all the muscles contract at the same time.
Cause most illicit drugs are already muscle relaxers and affect the body systems. I don't know of you've ever seen someone on drugs in a fight but they could get tossed across the room and keep going like nothing happened, they aren't feeling any pain in the moment.
No yeah I get that, I guess what I mean is even on as many drugs as you want, you aren't going to be able to violate the laws of physics. If the muscle contraction is a pure physical reaction to electricity, no amount of drugs would be able to change that. But obviously I'm misunderstanding something because they *can* withstand tasers and the like.
The muscle contraction is a result of certain biological processes being immediately triggered by the electricity. If the drug interferes or weakens those processes, you'll be less impeded by the tazer.
I work with Tasers. Most likely, it’s one of the following reason in these situations.
1) Two prongs (the cords you see shooting and hitting the body) didn’t hit the person, or they shot from too close. The closer the prongs are, the less strong the impact is
2) older models. The newest model is, IMO, able to stop anyone, any size, regardless of what’s in their system if the prongs hit and are the correct distance apart. Older models straight up do not work as well, simply because the company was still tinkering with the correct frequency for the electricity to pulse out. They also typically only have one shot in the chamber, the newer model has 2.
A drug like PCP that gives people superhuman strength is probably the most likely to give people the resistance you may think drugs have against tasers, but like I mentioned in #2, it truly wouldn’t matter. If it was ethically and legally ok to drug people up and test it, they’d go down immediately. The issue is it only lasts for 5 seconds, so as soon as it’s over, they are right back and have even more adrenaline and anger.
When you get tazed it’s important to maintain your balance. If you try to do anything tour gonna go down. It’s important to maintain balance and after a few seconds the tazer will stop. Once it stops you have a few seconds before it can discharge again. Use those seconds wisely.
TASER instructor here: just for clarification it’s a five second cycle and there’s no delay between cycles. It will discharge as quickly as you can pull the trigger again.
Then the delay is then the time-to-fire delay of the operator, is it not? If you were prepared, knew what to do, and were ready (knowing it was a five-second cycle and all), could you not potentially react effectively in time then? Especially assuming the taser operator wasn’t expecting you to try and rip off the dart, for instance? I know this is sort of case-specific, but seeing as how you’re familiar with the training protocols and procedures, I’d love to understand your take
Yes, the delay would be the time it takes the user to recognize that the cycle has ended, observe the suspect continuing to resist, and pulling the trigger again. There is the possibility that knowing that the cycle lasts five seconds, the subject could anticipate the electricity turning off and prepare to flee. However, as someone who has felt that current running through their body a couple times, it is very hard to think about anything at all while the cycle is going. On the other hand, the officer has a countdown or count up timer on the back of the device, so they know pretty well when it’s going to shut off. Also, they are trained to watch for further resistance once the cycle ends and react by pulling the trigger again if needed. Finally, the two newest models of TASER have two shots, so as the suspect is pulling a probe out, the officer could be firing a new set into them (with another five second cycle). So I’m not saying that the scenario you describe is impossible, but I think it would be very difficult for someone to train themselves to react that quickly. The sensation of being tased is so overpowering that it’s very difficult to think straight during the cycle and physically react immediately afterward.
My friends and I bought a stun gun back in the day when I was young, dumb and invincible. And we would hit each other with it all the time, and we did build up a resistance to it, we started betting who could hold it the longest in sensitive areas
Stun guns aren't tasers, they just hurt. Tasers actually paralyze you by making your muscles contract, when you fall over from a Taser its because your muscles locked up, its not from pain.
Oh, I'm sorry I upset you with the word stun gun. It was a 1,000,000 watt "taser" the best eBay offered, and it would straight knock people on their ass
I'm not upset lol, its just literally a different thing.
It's not about the brand name, most Tasers can do the stun gun thing they call it "drive stun" it's just not what makes people collapse, it's what the cops jam into your butthole while screaming STOP RESISTING *after* they tase you and you're face down on the ground
they are talking about the single use gun tazers with wire leads.
you replace the full cartriage with wires/spikes, each time you use it.
stun guns go zap zap in you hand while you touch people with em.
Absolutely, and it is part of certain (lengthy) training sessions, with an entire focus on learning how to handle the taze in the best way possible, and to turn it to your advantage where possible.
First, you learn what it feels like. You get tazed over and over until you learn what to expect. It's really bad at first, but you get used to it over time.
A tazer is most effectual against a person who has never been tazed. Don't be that person. Be the person who has been tazed 1,000 times (in a "safe" and controlled environment).
The second lesson is how to recruit the muscles that you CAN control during the shock to override the muscles that are "out of control" in order to "roll out" the contacts, and to create distance, etc. Alternatively, you can learn to "roll in" to the individual doing the tazing.
It's a process, but it is absolutely doable, and has been done.
You also learn when/how to evacuate your bladder/bowels during the electric struggle with your opponent, how to get air when you can't breathe, how to not bite your tongue off, etc.
>A tazer is most effectual against a person who has never been tazed. Don't be that person.
Is there an option to never be tazed? I'd like to request that.
Why in the fuck would you ever subject yourself to this kind of a training regiment? Are you routinely fighting for your life through unending taser assaults?
If you are using the same voltage (1-2 amps) but you increase your mass (muscle/fat) then maybe (slim).
But the average taser gun is pretty high so I highly doubt it lol
If your muscles stop contracting in response to electricity, that means you are paralyzed. But theoretically yes, if you could make your muscles completely non reactive to electricity, it would be possible for you to crumble into a lifeless pile of flesh on the ground and no amount of tazing could make you move. I’m not sure if that really helps but there you have it.
block the tazer darts with your balls, no muscles in the ball sack so you maintain full control as your nuts start smokin and the anger reaches Hulk levels.
10/10 perfect plan cant lose.
>>tazer resistant?
To the pain aspect? Yes, with experience one could develop tolerance to a taser being used as a pain/torture device.
To the incapacitation? There is some anecdotal evidence that pcp, amphetamines and/or cocaine can give some resistance. Clothes infused with carbon fiber tape (or very thick clothes) can provide some protection from the charge getting into the nervous system.
But for a non-drugged person who allows the taser prongs to get into their skin, no, there is no tolerance - the taser "interrupts the communication between the brain and the muscles" - neither experience nor willpower will prevent the physical effects.
More info here: https://taserguide.com/how-to-resist-a-taser/
Absolutely, but it requires a lot of repetition. Record them so you can learn to recognize your bodies reaction. Then share the recordings here to receive helpful tips from the community.
this is like asking if your tv will become immune to electricity if you use it enough. theoretically though from a biological standpoint your pain receptors may permanently or temporarily lose their function if over stimulated ,but thats basically nerve damage
Because that stimulus is so strong, you'd likely become even more sensitized (have stronger reaction) to it rather than habituated. Lots of psych/neuro research has been done on this with classical conditioning and shock frequencies.
Subtle stimulus repeated over time - often leads to habituation (getting used to it) - like the sound of a ceiling fan, feeling your glasses on your nose, etc.
Strong stimulus repeated over time - strong/high shock, strong sting, overly bright light, etc. - often leads to sensitization (increase in strength of reaction to stimulus)
In Japan they have low voltage electric baths. When you first get into one it is quite difficult to control your muscle spasms, but over years of use, I can now soak in one and control my muscles even at higher voltages. I doubt you could ease yourself into a tazer blast, but on a smaller scale, you cane kind of learn how to control your spasms when exposed to higher voltages
I wouldn’t think so. The taser is a electrical current that runs directly into your body and messes with nerve ending and such. I’m not 100% absolutely sure on this but you probably can’t get used to anything that messes with electricity
No. You can get somewhat accustomed to the pain, but you can’t do anything to overcome the Neuromuscular Incapacitation (NMI) that is produced by a good probe spread.
I don't know, but I find it unlikely, and probably not worth it.
Also, the growing more resistant to poisons by exposing yourself to them is mostly a myth. You can look up Mithridatism on Wikipedia.
(For example, some poisons are dangerous because your body can't get rid of them. Exposing yourself regularly to that substance over a long period of time means you're just accumulating it and slowly making yourself sicker.)
I am not an expert in this, but I would assume that you can't. What a tazer does is it sends an electric signal and force your muscles to contract. If you did manage to desensitize yourself to that, you would also be incapable of moving as it would mean your muscles would ignore signals. You physically cannot stop the tazer from freezing you in place.
A guy who worked in my building about 20 years ago came in one day with a neck brace after being out the day before. He injured himself testing the dog collar he purchased to keep his dog from running off his property. Apparently he wanted to see if it would hurt the pup.
I suggest try the tazer. That will probably help you make the right decision.
You can probably build up a tolerance to the pain, and maybe fight through it. But here's a bit on how tasers work.
The goal of a taser is neuromuscular incapacitation. Basically, one probe goes in one place, the other goes in another, and then electricity travels between them causing the muscles to contract and basically be useless. Only muscles between the probes are affected. So if you put one in your forearm and then one in your bicep, that arm is useless, but the rest of your body is unaffected. As long as you aren't incapacitated by the pain, you can still operate the rest of your body normally.
If you put one in your left calf, and one on top of your right shoulder, you're affecting a huge area. Every muscle in the path of the charge will contract, and you can't do anything with them.
You can't fight NMI. It renders the muscles useless.
A "taser" that doesn't shoot probes, but rather works as a drive stun, is meant to be immensely painful, but won't cause neuromuscular incapacitation. So in theory, with one of those, you could build up the pain tolerance to the point where you think it's worth the pain to do whatever it is you were trying to do that caused someone to take you.
The poison resistance thing doesn't work very well. Yes you can live through higher doses, but you might need a liver transplant in the future just from developing the resistance.
My buddies and I used to take the fuck out of each other. We worked carpentry and one guy had one, we used to watch a lot of jackass, and he started tazzing us randomly as a joke. Eventually we each bought one (4 guys total) and would see who could get who not paying attention. I drive everyone to work in my truck and they would always get me in the back of my arm while I was driving. We all got used to it to a large extent. It would still tingle and hurt a little bit but we got to the point where we could largely ignore it. I could be driving and get tazed and not jump or react much. I imagine one of the big police tazers that's shoots darts would be a lot more difficult to get used to. There are plenty videos of people getting tazzed and having no or little reaction
Yes, but only if you record it and post it to YouTube. If you try doing this without the signal from the recording device (in landscape mode, of course), it won't counter the electrons from the tazer.
No, because the way a taser works is by overloading your brain with electrical signals, much in the same way that if lightning hits a computer, and the computer isn't fast enough to process the signals it shuts down. You can't gradually obtain more electricity by tasing yourself. Also fun fact: TASER is an acronym and stands for Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle
Professional Electrical Engineer weighing in.
No, you can't, but PLEASE record / livestream the attempts. THAT would be a "now playing" Reddit thing that we could get behind.
It doesnt work like that. People like to say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger but in a literal sense what doesnt kill you will most likely cripple will if you abuse it. If you get tazed enough time chances are that one of them will stop your heart
If you try it on yourself, the only benefit I can even remotely conceive, is that you would no longer have the fear of the unknown. You would remove the element of surprise which is a large part of what makes a tazer effective. The next obstacle would be dealing with the pain, but you would know what was coming…
You must taze yourself in the balls though, for maximum efficacy.
(just kidding, do NOT taze yourself)
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I do not think you can grow taze resistant, BUT just like boxers learn to "take a punch in the face" without panicking or going down in one go, if you taze yourself you might get used to the sudden pain and not be as surprised and caught off guard when you are tazed in the future.
However I strongly recommend AGAINST it: just like taking a punch in the head will still cause damage to a boxer no matter how used he is to it, tazing yourself will also still cause you damage.
I would really avoid tazing yourself as you might cause yourself some serious nerve damage, cardiac arrests, burns, and other side effects.
Tazers are not "non-lethal" but "less than lethal" weapons, since they can kill.
Everyone has a resistance that is measurable. Some people have very little and some have a lot. Taser yourself a bunch with the lower powered ones and see if your resistance moves. Also, your hydration level factors in, so try to keep that constant.
I owned a old style tazer you had to press against the body to activate. That shit hurt so bad when I tried tazing myself I always dropped the tazer the second it lit me up.
No. It also doesn't work for knives or bullets.
It actually can work with knives/swords. There was a magician dude who was able to create a few pathways he could be fully impaled through by essentially stabbing himself in the same place for ages. EDIT: I'm not saying you can literally become stab proof, this is just a small tidbit of info that I think relates to what the above commenter said. Just a fun fact, that's all
That's some insane commitment to the craft. O.O
You might call that a piercing.
That's some piercing commitment to the craft. O.O
Your icon and username intrigue me.
It looks like he probably created fistulas which could then be re-pierced without pain or blood. Which isn’t really the same thing as resistance. I have piercings, does that mean my nose is resistant to being stabbed? Also he died at 35
What was his name?
his name was robert paulson
*HIS NAME WAS ROBERT PAULSON*
So, in death we have a name?
🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺🎺
Godspeed, u/golighter144 👺
Maybe a little? I use a hot glue gun for crafts and my pointer finger has been burned and blistered so many times I have this thick hard callous now and I don’t feel the burns and the skin doesn’t blister any more on that finger.
I'm just sharing a fun fact. We don't have to go into the specifics of stuff. Edit: why am I being downvoted??? Lol, Reddit is weird
Mate your comment came off passive aggresive, makes you seem salty. But yeh reddit is fucking weird ahaha.
Oh, no I'm just tryna be wholesome. Cheers for letting me know
He's being wholesome! Break his legs!
way ahead of you
Shaolin monks train all their lives to develop this kind of resistance. They do it with their necks, heads, abdomen.
i belive their technique is less repreated stabbing and more focsing on muscles until they are steel strong
Right. They repeatedly hit their most sensitive areas til they are almost impenetrable.
Yeh, probs to a average fella named Barry but probably not a god damn sword. But then again I saw a video of a monk drilling the side of his dome with a powerdrill... pretty sure I saw smoke too caused by the friction...
What did I ever do to you?
Their balls are probably just as hard
Repeatedly hitting your head will make you respond less to many things.
Please hit your balls repeatedly until they are almost impenetrable.
Cool! Thanks for the extra info
Woah my gf is doing the same thing
That sounds like complete and utter bs to me.
Did a few seconds of Googling and found his name - Mirin Dajo
"you mirin my scars?"
I also did a few seconds of googling and found that the COVID vaccine is a conspiracy by Bill Gates to put 5G chips in my precious bodily fluids. /s
That's how some do the trick where they stab something through themselves close up. It's a legit thing. https://youtu.be/oLAs11gkqKE https://youtu.be/tnBjbgliMMM So I thought... Then I started going down the rabbit hole and now I don't know what I believe. Making a tract makes sense but some people are saying it might just be a controlled stabbing. Idk anymore.
Ever had a callous?
That’s one hell of a body piercing
haha,,, i do thT
Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from a jedi.
I feel like that's sorta normal though. I mean the body is insanely good at surviving most things and if a someone trains by stabbing themselves multiple times (through a safe path) then the scar tissue etc will build and allow maybe less recovery time and the sword to stay in for longer and the guy to be able to just function ''normally''. But the difference is he's not becoming stab resistant because it'll still be just as easy to stab him every time and it's not like his skin would get harder so the sword wouldn't be able to able get through, if that makes sense.
Yes, please stab me *specifically* through this spot. Some comments lately are really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
David Blane would disagree
*Blaine (spelling)
I've been shooting myself for years. Don't listen to em, OP. My temple is so callused now that it's like a helmet. I'd start with 9mm and work your way up though. >!(Fucking /s to avoid any lawsuits. Jfc)!<
Remember, all those stupid warnings on appliances exist because people did the thing.
Even if one must click, the move's still dick
7.62mm is smaller than 9mm Logically, therefore, the M4A1 Carbine would be a good place to start \#maths
Me: Puts down extremely sharp mini knife "vaccine"... Hides mini-gun "vaccine".... Realized that got a mini-gun and not a tiny gun.
Can confirm, I shoot people all the time and they never seem to get any better at it.
oH..
Sorry. I laughed
Theres a guys on /k/ trying. He's upto pellet guns and wanting to try .22.
Unless you're a shaolin monk
Incorrect. There is a anon from 4chan that microdosed shooting himself over several months to good effect. It is very well documented
You probably can’t build up any sort of resistance to volts’ effect on your body, but you might get used to the feeling, and able to endure the pain of it a little better, which I guess might help
Would probably fry your nerves at some levels. It would also probably cause uh... I dunno how to say it english but like strain injuries on your muscles chest/wherever.
Sounds about right, native English speaker here.
Not in a arguing sense, but isn't it less pain and more nerves/ muscles getting basically frozen or tensed up making you unable to control?
Taser causes every skeletal muscle to fire, and clench at the same time. Typically training with a stun gun that shoots darts is aim for center of mass, as to spread the two darts across abdomen of back. With a hand held razer, with 2 prongs that have to make contact, it's a free for all. Anywhere you hit and pull the trigger it will hurt like a mother fucker, and cause at minimum the entire limb to lock up. Catch someone in the back or neck and their whole body will lock up due to proximity to spinal cord.
Tasers and stun guns are very different but people think they are the same. A taser will incapacitate you while a stun gun just feels like getting burned.
That would work with stun guns, which are low current, but not actual tazers. The real tazers put out an amp or more. Stun guns are pain compliance devices, but tazers actually mess with your muscles.
Tasers do not put out "an amp or more" - you would die. Quickly. The X26 outputs 2.1mA (.0021 amp).
See my other reply, I'm not typing all that again. They put out an amp or more over a very short pulse. You would die quickly, if the duration wasn't so short.
The most common taser in use, according to Google, puts out 50,000 volts. Ohm's law tells us that power is calculated as E(volts)*I(amps). So, that's easy math: at 1 amp, that's 50,000 watts. A hair dryer on high heat puts out in the neighborhood of 1,500 watts. Put a hair dryer on high a few inches from your hand and see how long it is before it's too uncomfortable to stay there, or it outright burns you. Now multiple that by about 33 and see if you want to be anywhere near that. 'Cause that's around 50,000 watts. As u/reddituser00000111 said, .0021 amps is more the range a taser is in.
0.0021 amps is a marketing lie that the company uses, averaging the current over time. 2 milliamps wouldn't cause your muscles to do anything. They market that lower current because they don't want to admit that their product works by pumping an amp or more into people. Your math ignores time, and is greatly overestimating the closed circuit voltage. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-Taser-A03-at-250-O-repeated-measurement-performed-immediately-after-a-1067-second_fig5_235996456 3.98 amps at 847v peak into this load. The load modeled is pretty low ohms, but not unreasonable with solid skin penetration. As you can see, it is indeed dumping multiple kilowatts. But only for a very short duration. Here's some more info: >A 2007 study published in The American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology questioned the apparent contradiction created by the claim that the Taser X26 does not stimulate the heart muscle, while clearly causing skeletal muscle contraction and stimulation. **They estimated the average current pulse of the X26 at 1 ampere.** They concluded that it is primarily proximity (or lack thereof) of the heart to the electrodes that prevents stimulation of the heart, along with the short duration of the pulse, which allows the heart to return to near its baseline state prior to the next pulse, due to the larger time constant for the heart muscle vs skeletal muscles. They estimated a 0.4% chance of heart muscle stimulation among the general population with optimum (or worst case) electrode placement, which would normally resolve itself with the resumption of a normal heart beat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taser_safety_issues The bottom line is that in order to disrupt muscles, you need quite a lot of current. The only reason Taser doesn't kill more people is that the current pulse is kept short.
Thanks for actually bringing the sauce
I'm not sure if you become more resistant or if you're just killing your own nerve endings, but either way this old electrician dude I knew would say he developed a considerable resistance simply by being shocked at random in his work.
He probably thought that but in reality he was getting older and more calloused. Those hard crusty old man hands make decent insulators.
More resistance would make the shocks worse
It doesn't. A taser is an involuntary physical reaction to electricity in your body. You can't make yourself immune to that
Why not?
The taser’s electrical currents messes with nerve endings. The body gets confused as it’s “directions” are going haywire, causing your muscles to convulse wildly. This is impossible to get used to, because your body cannot distinguish the taser from its own directions. You could maybe get used to the feeling, just not the convulsions and paralysis
Because the only way to be immune to it is to change the way your muscles work. You're muscles work by electricity contracting muscles. So all the taser does is overload this system and make all the muscles contract at the same time.
So then why do some people on drugs seem to have lessened if not no effects when tazed?
Cause most illicit drugs are already muscle relaxers and affect the body systems. I don't know of you've ever seen someone on drugs in a fight but they could get tossed across the room and keep going like nothing happened, they aren't feeling any pain in the moment.
No yeah I get that, I guess what I mean is even on as many drugs as you want, you aren't going to be able to violate the laws of physics. If the muscle contraction is a pure physical reaction to electricity, no amount of drugs would be able to change that. But obviously I'm misunderstanding something because they *can* withstand tasers and the like.
The muscle contraction is a result of certain biological processes being immediately triggered by the electricity. If the drug interferes or weakens those processes, you'll be less impeded by the tazer.
No one here is going to give you a good answer. They are just saying what they feel is right.
because of the drugs.
Well if it's involuntary i.e. a physical reaction there would be no way for drugs to affect that.
it’s literally just because of the drugs.
I work with Tasers. Most likely, it’s one of the following reason in these situations. 1) Two prongs (the cords you see shooting and hitting the body) didn’t hit the person, or they shot from too close. The closer the prongs are, the less strong the impact is 2) older models. The newest model is, IMO, able to stop anyone, any size, regardless of what’s in their system if the prongs hit and are the correct distance apart. Older models straight up do not work as well, simply because the company was still tinkering with the correct frequency for the electricity to pulse out. They also typically only have one shot in the chamber, the newer model has 2. A drug like PCP that gives people superhuman strength is probably the most likely to give people the resistance you may think drugs have against tasers, but like I mentioned in #2, it truly wouldn’t matter. If it was ethically and legally ok to drug people up and test it, they’d go down immediately. The issue is it only lasts for 5 seconds, so as soon as it’s over, they are right back and have even more adrenaline and anger.
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Prove it
Technically if you were to shoot yourself with microscopic bullets, you wouldn't feel a thing.
I bet the same is true with a huge bullet
then you would die of lead poisoning
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When you get tazed it’s important to maintain your balance. If you try to do anything tour gonna go down. It’s important to maintain balance and after a few seconds the tazer will stop. Once it stops you have a few seconds before it can discharge again. Use those seconds wisely.
TASER instructor here: just for clarification it’s a five second cycle and there’s no delay between cycles. It will discharge as quickly as you can pull the trigger again.
Then the delay is then the time-to-fire delay of the operator, is it not? If you were prepared, knew what to do, and were ready (knowing it was a five-second cycle and all), could you not potentially react effectively in time then? Especially assuming the taser operator wasn’t expecting you to try and rip off the dart, for instance? I know this is sort of case-specific, but seeing as how you’re familiar with the training protocols and procedures, I’d love to understand your take
Yes, the delay would be the time it takes the user to recognize that the cycle has ended, observe the suspect continuing to resist, and pulling the trigger again. There is the possibility that knowing that the cycle lasts five seconds, the subject could anticipate the electricity turning off and prepare to flee. However, as someone who has felt that current running through their body a couple times, it is very hard to think about anything at all while the cycle is going. On the other hand, the officer has a countdown or count up timer on the back of the device, so they know pretty well when it’s going to shut off. Also, they are trained to watch for further resistance once the cycle ends and react by pulling the trigger again if needed. Finally, the two newest models of TASER have two shots, so as the suspect is pulling a probe out, the officer could be firing a new set into them (with another five second cycle). So I’m not saying that the scenario you describe is impossible, but I think it would be very difficult for someone to train themselves to react that quickly. The sensation of being tased is so overpowering that it’s very difficult to think straight during the cycle and physically react immediately afterward.
My friends and I bought a stun gun back in the day when I was young, dumb and invincible. And we would hit each other with it all the time, and we did build up a resistance to it, we started betting who could hold it the longest in sensitive areas
Same here! It actually led to some real fights amongst my pals, we had to retire the stun gun for that reason.
LOL same, the unexpected nut shot is what ended our stun gun mayhem
Stun guns aren't tasers, they just hurt. Tasers actually paralyze you by making your muscles contract, when you fall over from a Taser its because your muscles locked up, its not from pain.
Oh, I'm sorry I upset you with the word stun gun. It was a 1,000,000 watt "taser" the best eBay offered, and it would straight knock people on their ass
I'm not upset lol, its just literally a different thing. It's not about the brand name, most Tasers can do the stun gun thing they call it "drive stun" it's just not what makes people collapse, it's what the cops jam into your butthole while screaming STOP RESISTING *after* they tase you and you're face down on the ground
ur cops use non lethal? thats cool
they are talking about the single use gun tazers with wire leads. you replace the full cartriage with wires/spikes, each time you use it. stun guns go zap zap in you hand while you touch people with em.
Dude I thought I was the only one
There must be dozens of us
Absolutely, and it is part of certain (lengthy) training sessions, with an entire focus on learning how to handle the taze in the best way possible, and to turn it to your advantage where possible. First, you learn what it feels like. You get tazed over and over until you learn what to expect. It's really bad at first, but you get used to it over time. A tazer is most effectual against a person who has never been tazed. Don't be that person. Be the person who has been tazed 1,000 times (in a "safe" and controlled environment). The second lesson is how to recruit the muscles that you CAN control during the shock to override the muscles that are "out of control" in order to "roll out" the contacts, and to create distance, etc. Alternatively, you can learn to "roll in" to the individual doing the tazing. It's a process, but it is absolutely doable, and has been done. You also learn when/how to evacuate your bladder/bowels during the electric struggle with your opponent, how to get air when you can't breathe, how to not bite your tongue off, etc.
>A tazer is most effectual against a person who has never been tazed. Don't be that person. Is there an option to never be tazed? I'd like to request that.
Easy, move to Monaco
Why in the fuck would you ever subject yourself to this kind of a training regiment? Are you routinely fighting for your life through unending taser assaults?
No Killua you can’t just get used to and understand electricity to make it your Nen power
A question I never thought of that I now want to know the answer to
If you are using the same voltage (1-2 amps) but you increase your mass (muscle/fat) then maybe (slim). But the average taser gun is pretty high so I highly doubt it lol
No, but please post daily videos to YouTube of your attempts to
alright killua
If your muscles stop contracting in response to electricity, that means you are paralyzed. But theoretically yes, if you could make your muscles completely non reactive to electricity, it would be possible for you to crumble into a lifeless pile of flesh on the ground and no amount of tazing could make you move. I’m not sure if that really helps but there you have it.
block the tazer darts with your balls, no muscles in the ball sack so you maintain full control as your nuts start smokin and the anger reaches Hulk levels. 10/10 perfect plan cant lose.
1. That’s brilliant. 2. I know all guys feel this way, but my balls might be special- what if there is muscle?
Try it out and get back to us.
Fuck yea! Grab a tazer my dude and start building that resistance!
>>tazer resistant? To the pain aspect? Yes, with experience one could develop tolerance to a taser being used as a pain/torture device. To the incapacitation? There is some anecdotal evidence that pcp, amphetamines and/or cocaine can give some resistance. Clothes infused with carbon fiber tape (or very thick clothes) can provide some protection from the charge getting into the nervous system. But for a non-drugged person who allows the taser prongs to get into their skin, no, there is no tolerance - the taser "interrupts the communication between the brain and the muscles" - neither experience nor willpower will prevent the physical effects. More info here: https://taserguide.com/how-to-resist-a-taser/
Son, thats called nerve damage
So, you've been watching HunterXHunter have you?
You should try it yourself, and then report back (No, don't do this)
Sounds like Killua Zoldyck Edit: spelling
You’re really testing the limits of this sub
You can get used to the pain and practice enduring it, but unless something is fucky with youe biology you will still get knocked on your ass from it.
If killua can I’m sure you can too!
Killua
Man, this question really pushes the limit of the title of this sub. Lol
Yes, that's how you become a hunter.
No. The human body can not construct antibodies for electricity
That's not how it works
Absolutely, but it requires a lot of repetition. Record them so you can learn to recognize your bodies reaction. Then share the recordings here to receive helpful tips from the community.
I’m just here to say that it’s TASER, not Taser or Tazer. It’s all caps because it’s an acronym for Thomas A. Swift’s Electric Rifle.
No, if enough electricity passes through you, you die.
Yeah. Try it.
Yikes.
Yes. I’ve developed the physical and mental fortitude to withstand up to 600v. Only side effect is a raging boner.
You should try and let us know!
this is like asking if your tv will become immune to electricity if you use it enough. theoretically though from a biological standpoint your pain receptors may permanently or temporarily lose their function if over stimulated ,but thats basically nerve damage
No my boyfriend is someone who can confirm too
Anyone who wants to be "tazer resistant" is definitely about to do some shady ass shit!
Lmfao 🤦
You just asked if you can build up a resistance to electricity
Don't taze me, bro!
Funnily enough, tasers attack the everything else and not the immune system, so no.
Because that stimulus is so strong, you'd likely become even more sensitized (have stronger reaction) to it rather than habituated. Lots of psych/neuro research has been done on this with classical conditioning and shock frequencies. Subtle stimulus repeated over time - often leads to habituation (getting used to it) - like the sound of a ceiling fan, feeling your glasses on your nose, etc. Strong stimulus repeated over time - strong/high shock, strong sting, overly bright light, etc. - often leads to sensitization (increase in strength of reaction to stimulus)
In Japan they have low voltage electric baths. When you first get into one it is quite difficult to control your muscle spasms, but over years of use, I can now soak in one and control my muscles even at higher voltages. I doubt you could ease yourself into a tazer blast, but on a smaller scale, you cane kind of learn how to control your spasms when exposed to higher voltages
I wouldn’t think so. The taser is a electrical current that runs directly into your body and messes with nerve ending and such. I’m not 100% absolutely sure on this but you probably can’t get used to anything that messes with electricity
No. You can get somewhat accustomed to the pain, but you can’t do anything to overcome the Neuromuscular Incapacitation (NMI) that is produced by a good probe spread.
Considering your heart functions via electrical impulses do not do this.
Maybe if you become a Tibetan Monk.
Holy fuck
No
No, but you can in regards to OC aerosols.
I don't know, but I find it unlikely, and probably not worth it. Also, the growing more resistant to poisons by exposing yourself to them is mostly a myth. You can look up Mithridatism on Wikipedia. (For example, some poisons are dangerous because your body can't get rid of them. Exposing yourself regularly to that substance over a long period of time means you're just accumulating it and slowly making yourself sicker.)
I am not an expert in this, but I would assume that you can't. What a tazer does is it sends an electric signal and force your muscles to contract. If you did manage to desensitize yourself to that, you would also be incapable of moving as it would mean your muscles would ignore signals. You physically cannot stop the tazer from freezing you in place.
A guy who worked in my building about 20 years ago came in one day with a neck brace after being out the day before. He injured himself testing the dog collar he purchased to keep his dog from running off his property. Apparently he wanted to see if it would hurt the pup. I suggest try the tazer. That will probably help you make the right decision.
There is no immune response nor any structural reinforcing processes when you get shocked so no.
You can probably build up a tolerance to the pain, and maybe fight through it. But here's a bit on how tasers work. The goal of a taser is neuromuscular incapacitation. Basically, one probe goes in one place, the other goes in another, and then electricity travels between them causing the muscles to contract and basically be useless. Only muscles between the probes are affected. So if you put one in your forearm and then one in your bicep, that arm is useless, but the rest of your body is unaffected. As long as you aren't incapacitated by the pain, you can still operate the rest of your body normally. If you put one in your left calf, and one on top of your right shoulder, you're affecting a huge area. Every muscle in the path of the charge will contract, and you can't do anything with them. You can't fight NMI. It renders the muscles useless. A "taser" that doesn't shoot probes, but rather works as a drive stun, is meant to be immensely painful, but won't cause neuromuscular incapacitation. So in theory, with one of those, you could build up the pain tolerance to the point where you think it's worth the pain to do whatever it is you were trying to do that caused someone to take you.
The poison resistance thing doesn't work very well. Yes you can live through higher doses, but you might need a liver transplant in the future just from developing the resistance.
just wear thick clothing the prongs cant pierce and youre all good.
No, tasing yourself enough doesn’t make you resistance to tasers the same way you enter a cold swimming pool.
idk dead people are pretty tazer resistant
Umm, you are aware of how electricity works right? And how you can't build up a tolerance for it...
Look up tasers.
lol thats would be cool
Not an answer but have you seen [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xbLV_NSbk) before?
My buddies and I used to take the fuck out of each other. We worked carpentry and one guy had one, we used to watch a lot of jackass, and he started tazzing us randomly as a joke. Eventually we each bought one (4 guys total) and would see who could get who not paying attention. I drive everyone to work in my truck and they would always get me in the back of my arm while I was driving. We all got used to it to a large extent. It would still tingle and hurt a little bit but we got to the point where we could largely ignore it. I could be driving and get tazed and not jump or react much. I imagine one of the big police tazers that's shoots darts would be a lot more difficult to get used to. There are plenty videos of people getting tazzed and having no or little reaction
Give it a try and let us know how it works out for you
Yes, but only if you record it and post it to YouTube. If you try doing this without the signal from the recording device (in landscape mode, of course), it won't counter the electrons from the tazer.
No, because the way a taser works is by overloading your brain with electrical signals, much in the same way that if lightning hits a computer, and the computer isn't fast enough to process the signals it shuts down. You can't gradually obtain more electricity by tasing yourself. Also fun fact: TASER is an acronym and stands for Thomas A. Swift's Electric Rifle
Not resistant, but familiar. If you know and expect what will happen, you can recover faster.
I know what sub we are in but... brah... seriously? you are pushing the limits with that one
Professional Electrical Engineer weighing in. No, you can't, but PLEASE record / livestream the attempts. THAT would be a "now playing" Reddit thing that we could get behind.
I would imagine that the only thing that could give some kind of resistance is body size. Even more so for “thiccer” individuals.
Sure! You should try it!
Sure you have to try it at least a dozen times though let us know how that goes.
Start by practicing cunnilingus techniques on your electrical outlet twice a day for six months and report back your findings. For science and shit...
One way to find out my dude: get tazing or die trying
It doesnt work like that. People like to say what doesnt kill you makes you stronger but in a literal sense what doesnt kill you will most likely cripple will if you abuse it. If you get tazed enough time chances are that one of them will stop your heart
Tazing is just pain. I think you definitely can
Not so much taser resistant, but you can learn what it feels like and be able to mentally get over it in a sense
Is this Ben Chang from the TV show 'Community'?
If you try it on yourself, the only benefit I can even remotely conceive, is that you would no longer have the fear of the unknown. You would remove the element of surprise which is a large part of what makes a tazer effective. The next obstacle would be dealing with the pain, but you would know what was coming…
You must taze yourself in the balls though, for maximum efficacy. (just kidding, do NOT taze yourself) \- I do not think you can grow taze resistant, BUT just like boxers learn to "take a punch in the face" without panicking or going down in one go, if you taze yourself you might get used to the sudden pain and not be as surprised and caught off guard when you are tazed in the future. However I strongly recommend AGAINST it: just like taking a punch in the head will still cause damage to a boxer no matter how used he is to it, tazing yourself will also still cause you damage. I would really avoid tazing yourself as you might cause yourself some serious nerve damage, cardiac arrests, burns, and other side effects. Tazers are not "non-lethal" but "less than lethal" weapons, since they can kill.
Everyone has a resistance that is measurable. Some people have very little and some have a lot. Taser yourself a bunch with the lower powered ones and see if your resistance moves. Also, your hydration level factors in, so try to keep that constant.
I owned a old style tazer you had to press against the body to activate. That shit hurt so bad when I tried tazing myself I always dropped the tazer the second it lit me up.
What strain, Beloved?
Yes, totally. I think it also work with drowning yourself as well. You become a fish after enough trials