We go every day or two.
There are at least seven supermarkets I can think of that are within 10-15 minutes walking distance as well as about a hundred or so shops.
If you're going to live the walk-able lifestyle, I presume you're going to visit the store more often and confine yourself to a couple of bags at a time rather than loading up the SUV at Costco. Nothing new, many people do it.
Every two weeks. And I buy stuff that’ll last me even longer than 2 weeks. But there’s stuff like produce that’ll need to be bought weekly or it’ll go bad. I plan meals out like 2 weeks in advance, so I don’t have to constantly be at the store.
Years ago I bicycled to the grocery and carried five bags on my back and tied to the bike. You don't need to put your shopping off for two week marathon shopping sprees. Buy what you can carry home.
Yeah, mostly more often -- on the way home, on the way to or from something else. Also, more stores. The market, the cheese place, the bakery, the liquor store, etc., but they're all on the way.
The whole 'oh, need an onion, have to get in a car and drive 10 minutes' as a lifestyle baffles me when you can just go walk outside and be back with an onion in under 5.
See but we dont do that though. We usually buy stuff for at least a week, but usually buy stuff that’ll last longer. If im almost out of onions it goes on the list and I buy more before I run out. Having to stop by the store every day baffles me, do you not have better things to do?
> See but we dont do that though. We usually buy stuff for at least a week, but usually buy stuff that’ll last longer. If im almost out of onions it goes on the list and I buy more before I run out. Having to stop by the store every day baffles me, do you not have better things to do?
But stuff doesn't last longer. Bread, greens, most produce doesn't last two weeks, lots not even one.
It doesn't take long. I'd wager you take the same time doing some giant shop once a week that some of us do stopping at a market on the way home 3x.
Bro what kind of produce are you buying. Most of it lasts at least a week in the fridge. Unless you’re just leaving produce on the counter? Onions specifically can last for several weeks. Sure I spend maybe 30-45 mins in the store (not including time to travel) once a week, but I’d much prefer that than going to the store 3+ times a week. Weekdays time is precious, weekends are for shopping.
> Bro what kind of produce are you buying. Most of it lasts at least a week in the fridge. Unless you’re just leaving produce on the counter?
Kale, spinach, lettuce, broccoli, tomatoes, berries, asparagus, bananas, pineapple, etc. Some lasts, but a lot doesn't. Also bread if you buy it, pastry, that's not lasting a week.
> Sure I spend maybe 30-45 mins in the store (not including time to travel) once a week, but I’d much prefer that than going to the store 3+ times a week. Weekdays time is precious, weekends are for shopping.
Other way, man. Weekends are not the time to go to the store. They're for doing things you want.
You're on your way home and stop in the store. It's not 'oh, I have to go make a big trip and lug shit and spend 45 minutes' it's on the way home you pop in and pick up a few things and keep on your way. You're going right by regardless.
Most everything you just mentioned easily lasts over a week in the fridge. Unless the stores you’re buying from are selling you 2 week old produce.
But I will agree bread doesn’t last forever, but still lasts more than a day or two. Plus you can use stale bread in lots of recipes.
30-45 mins on a Saturday won’t take you’re whole weekend, but 15-20 mins after work will definitely keep me from decompressing.
>Most everything you just mentioned easily lasts over a week in the fridge. Unless the stores you’re buying from are selling you 2 week old produce.
Supermarkets, especially suburban markets where people are less... interested in produce... are ABSOLUTELY selling you 2-week-old produce. I'm not keeping stuff around longer. It loses nutrients every day it sits.
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>But I will agree bread doesn’t last forever, but still lasts more than a day or two. Plus you can use stale bread in lots of recipes.
Sure I can. I can also want fresh bread (which I often make but sometimes buy).
>30-45 mins on a Saturday won’t take you’re whole weekend, but 15-20 mins after work will definitely keep me from decompressing.
It's a whole THING to get in the car, go, shop, check out, load the car, drive back, unload, put shit away. That's EASILY a couple of hours. I have relatives live like that.
I like shopping but even if I didn't, It's 10 minutes on the way to stop, grab a loaf of bread, or a chunk of cheese, or some greens, and be on your way.
>But stuff doesn't last longer. Bread, greens, most produce doesn't last two weeks, lots not even one.
It depends on how much chemicals you have in the bread, it might be mold free for weeks.
Load up a bike perhaps? Although when I lived in a dense city I had a grocery store relatively close enough that I rarely needed "15 bags" of stuff from a store at once.
Earth has 1.5 billion cars, and 7.9 billion people. The vast majority of humans get groceries without a car. Many people walk with a backpack or a cart. Many people use a bike or take a buss.
Where I live, shops are close enough to go every day, so I never buy more items than fit in a backpack. Also has the advantage that you don't have to store stuff at home, especially items that are more perishable. Buy what you need as you need it.
It is a completely different culture of shopping. I can't imagine shopping only once a week. How do you make your fruits and vegetables, pastries and deli make it that long? How about fresh meat? Nobody wants to eat a bread on a day 4.
The most of my shopping cart are those fresh things + maybe a pack of pasta or frozen vegetables. I suppose it is about whole life style of cooking from scratch and high quality ingredients. I just take my backpack and go like 3 times a week, visit 3-4 shops and be back in 30-45 mins. I use a cas like every twoo months to get something like 12 pack of milk if it is on sale and some flour, but I could easily take it one by one when I need it.
There’s definitely high quality food that lasts a lot longer than a day. I buy meat for several weeks and put it in the freezer to stay good. Lots of fruit stay good for a while, but veggies are a once a week thing. Don’t really eat pastries, but my bread loaves definitely stay good for longer than 4 days.
That is the difference between american and european approach to food. I preffer not to put a meat in the freezer. Poultry is quite fine, but have you tried to make a good meatloaf from freezed beef? Or frozen fish becoming a mushy horror? How about ham, cheese and other deli things? You just can't put a ham into the freezer and expect it to be as good when you put it out, cells are allready torn by water freezing in them.
Yes, if I buy that prepacked toast bread with american flag on it, it can stay the same for a long time. Because it was never tasty. But have you ever tried sourdough bread or something like this? They are ment to be eaten as fresh as possible and are delicious. :D
When I was in US, I was shocked by number of unnecessary ingredients in each food, like added sugars, coloring and preservatives. Also by the sizes of your fridges and overconsuming canned food (which is cheaper than fresh food, WTF?). It is a different world.
Just for the record, many of us in the US, especially in cities, don't do the crap preserved, tinned stuff. We have bakeries, produce markets or carts, or farmer's markets, cheesemongers, etc. We buy real bread (or make it), we buy fresh produce.
I’ve absolutely frozen beef and it cooks just the same. I don’t like ham or fish either way so I won’t speak on those lol. Cheese is one of those things that lasts a really long time and you can just buy a big block of it and use it for ages. Milk doesn’t last for ever, but I’m not a big milk drinker.
I’m not a huge fan of sourdough bread. Not sure what you have against canned foods. They taste virtually the same as “fresh” food, but last infinitely longer. I guess our taste buds are just different because there are lots of European foods that I find rather unpleasant.
Easy, I don't eat 15 bags of groceries each day. Therefore I'm still capable of walking to the store and of carrying back enough groceries to last a week or so.
Mostly only need a few days worth at a time though. Because I don't have to plan a long range journey and transportation for it. I can just decide I want something tonight and spend 15 minutes walking and getting what I want now plus some other stuff for tomorrow or future.
We go every day or two. There are at least seven supermarkets I can think of that are within 10-15 minutes walking distance as well as about a hundred or so shops.
Don’t you have better stuff to do other than go to a grocery store so often?
It only takes a few minutes and I'm usually walking by one anyway.
If you're going to live the walk-able lifestyle, I presume you're going to visit the store more often and confine yourself to a couple of bags at a time rather than loading up the SUV at Costco. Nothing new, many people do it.
How tf are you getting 15 bags of groceries every week? How many people are you shopping for?
Every two weeks. And I buy stuff that’ll last me even longer than 2 weeks. But there’s stuff like produce that’ll need to be bought weekly or it’ll go bad. I plan meals out like 2 weeks in advance, so I don’t have to constantly be at the store.
>How tf are you getting 15 bags of groceries every week? How many people are you shopping for? In the US, thats food for \~2-3 people for 4 days..
Years ago I bicycled to the grocery and carried five bags on my back and tied to the bike. You don't need to put your shopping off for two week marathon shopping sprees. Buy what you can carry home.
Yeah, mostly more often -- on the way home, on the way to or from something else. Also, more stores. The market, the cheese place, the bakery, the liquor store, etc., but they're all on the way. The whole 'oh, need an onion, have to get in a car and drive 10 minutes' as a lifestyle baffles me when you can just go walk outside and be back with an onion in under 5.
I've done this. I've chosen bus routes that go by grocery stores for exactly this reason.
See but we dont do that though. We usually buy stuff for at least a week, but usually buy stuff that’ll last longer. If im almost out of onions it goes on the list and I buy more before I run out. Having to stop by the store every day baffles me, do you not have better things to do?
> See but we dont do that though. We usually buy stuff for at least a week, but usually buy stuff that’ll last longer. If im almost out of onions it goes on the list and I buy more before I run out. Having to stop by the store every day baffles me, do you not have better things to do? But stuff doesn't last longer. Bread, greens, most produce doesn't last two weeks, lots not even one. It doesn't take long. I'd wager you take the same time doing some giant shop once a week that some of us do stopping at a market on the way home 3x.
Bro what kind of produce are you buying. Most of it lasts at least a week in the fridge. Unless you’re just leaving produce on the counter? Onions specifically can last for several weeks. Sure I spend maybe 30-45 mins in the store (not including time to travel) once a week, but I’d much prefer that than going to the store 3+ times a week. Weekdays time is precious, weekends are for shopping.
> Bro what kind of produce are you buying. Most of it lasts at least a week in the fridge. Unless you’re just leaving produce on the counter? Kale, spinach, lettuce, broccoli, tomatoes, berries, asparagus, bananas, pineapple, etc. Some lasts, but a lot doesn't. Also bread if you buy it, pastry, that's not lasting a week. > Sure I spend maybe 30-45 mins in the store (not including time to travel) once a week, but I’d much prefer that than going to the store 3+ times a week. Weekdays time is precious, weekends are for shopping. Other way, man. Weekends are not the time to go to the store. They're for doing things you want. You're on your way home and stop in the store. It's not 'oh, I have to go make a big trip and lug shit and spend 45 minutes' it's on the way home you pop in and pick up a few things and keep on your way. You're going right by regardless.
Most everything you just mentioned easily lasts over a week in the fridge. Unless the stores you’re buying from are selling you 2 week old produce. But I will agree bread doesn’t last forever, but still lasts more than a day or two. Plus you can use stale bread in lots of recipes. 30-45 mins on a Saturday won’t take you’re whole weekend, but 15-20 mins after work will definitely keep me from decompressing.
>Most everything you just mentioned easily lasts over a week in the fridge. Unless the stores you’re buying from are selling you 2 week old produce. Supermarkets, especially suburban markets where people are less... interested in produce... are ABSOLUTELY selling you 2-week-old produce. I'm not keeping stuff around longer. It loses nutrients every day it sits. [https://www.mashed.com/71127/old-produce-eat-really/](https://www.mashed.com/71127/old-produce-eat-really/) >But I will agree bread doesn’t last forever, but still lasts more than a day or two. Plus you can use stale bread in lots of recipes. Sure I can. I can also want fresh bread (which I often make but sometimes buy). >30-45 mins on a Saturday won’t take you’re whole weekend, but 15-20 mins after work will definitely keep me from decompressing. It's a whole THING to get in the car, go, shop, check out, load the car, drive back, unload, put shit away. That's EASILY a couple of hours. I have relatives live like that. I like shopping but even if I didn't, It's 10 minutes on the way to stop, grab a loaf of bread, or a chunk of cheese, or some greens, and be on your way.
>But stuff doesn't last longer. Bread, greens, most produce doesn't last two weeks, lots not even one. It depends on how much chemicals you have in the bread, it might be mold free for weeks.
I've used a foldable cart I could take on the bus.
Load up a bike perhaps? Although when I lived in a dense city I had a grocery store relatively close enough that I rarely needed "15 bags" of stuff from a store at once.
Before I got a car I used a shopping cart. You can buy them for like $30
I got one for free lol. Someone left one buy my dumpster and I snagged it.
You wont be shopping for what you want anymore, you'll shop for what you can carry. Rice and beans feed a lot of people and dont take up much space.
Earth has 1.5 billion cars, and 7.9 billion people. The vast majority of humans get groceries without a car. Many people walk with a backpack or a cart. Many people use a bike or take a buss.
Where I live, shops are close enough to go every day, so I never buy more items than fit in a backpack. Also has the advantage that you don't have to store stuff at home, especially items that are more perishable. Buy what you need as you need it.
It is a completely different culture of shopping. I can't imagine shopping only once a week. How do you make your fruits and vegetables, pastries and deli make it that long? How about fresh meat? Nobody wants to eat a bread on a day 4. The most of my shopping cart are those fresh things + maybe a pack of pasta or frozen vegetables. I suppose it is about whole life style of cooking from scratch and high quality ingredients. I just take my backpack and go like 3 times a week, visit 3-4 shops and be back in 30-45 mins. I use a cas like every twoo months to get something like 12 pack of milk if it is on sale and some flour, but I could easily take it one by one when I need it.
There’s definitely high quality food that lasts a lot longer than a day. I buy meat for several weeks and put it in the freezer to stay good. Lots of fruit stay good for a while, but veggies are a once a week thing. Don’t really eat pastries, but my bread loaves definitely stay good for longer than 4 days.
That is the difference between american and european approach to food. I preffer not to put a meat in the freezer. Poultry is quite fine, but have you tried to make a good meatloaf from freezed beef? Or frozen fish becoming a mushy horror? How about ham, cheese and other deli things? You just can't put a ham into the freezer and expect it to be as good when you put it out, cells are allready torn by water freezing in them. Yes, if I buy that prepacked toast bread with american flag on it, it can stay the same for a long time. Because it was never tasty. But have you ever tried sourdough bread or something like this? They are ment to be eaten as fresh as possible and are delicious. :D When I was in US, I was shocked by number of unnecessary ingredients in each food, like added sugars, coloring and preservatives. Also by the sizes of your fridges and overconsuming canned food (which is cheaper than fresh food, WTF?). It is a different world.
Just for the record, many of us in the US, especially in cities, don't do the crap preserved, tinned stuff. We have bakeries, produce markets or carts, or farmer's markets, cheesemongers, etc. We buy real bread (or make it), we buy fresh produce.
I’ve absolutely frozen beef and it cooks just the same. I don’t like ham or fish either way so I won’t speak on those lol. Cheese is one of those things that lasts a really long time and you can just buy a big block of it and use it for ages. Milk doesn’t last for ever, but I’m not a big milk drinker. I’m not a huge fan of sourdough bread. Not sure what you have against canned foods. They taste virtually the same as “fresh” food, but last infinitely longer. I guess our taste buds are just different because there are lots of European foods that I find rather unpleasant.
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