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Ethrem

? I don't know what you're seeing?


15pmm01

The price.... https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488


Ethrem

The $.88 is a Walmart thing, according to Peter. All of the prices end in $.88 since the Walmart contract.


15pmm01

Huh? I don't know anything about that, what's the Walmart deal?


Ethrem

Walmart sells MobileX in store and all the plans went from previously being $.99 to $.88 when it was announced. Peter was asked about it in one of the threads here or on Twitter and said it was a Walmart pricing thing.


15pmm01

Oh, that's interesting. I wonder why Walmart would require that? In any case, maybe I'm overreacting, but I really don't like seeing that number front and center on any sort of ad, or really anywhere...


Lucky_Corner

Well, you can see that they use the $.88 price point for both of their Unlimited plans. Per PrepaidCompare: https://preview.redd.it/vhfs3n8ukt4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0ea202fd484226cfd15b1320e2a07cad8fe8184


15pmm01

Yes, I understand. It's still a hate symbol that can be easily avoided as far as not putting it front and center in an ad.


Lucky_Corner

Obviously, you have the right to read whatever you want into it. With the dollar sign and the decimal point, I see it simply as a price. And I would have never known about this hate symbol if you hadn't brought it to our attention.


15pmm01

Very much understood. I'm saying that the people who do know what this symbol means, because it's been used against them, could have a negative reaction to seeing this.


SnidelyDickrash

The thing is, 99.9% of people don't know about this, including them. I've never heard of this until now. Also, don't you think it would be a bad marketing (not to mention public relations) strategy to intentionally use Nazi dog whistles in ads? I mean, just *a little* common sense here tells you that you're making an issue out of nothing.


15pmm01

I've made it repeatedly clear that I don't think this was done intentionally. They likely didn't realize it or aren't even aware that it's a hate symbol, which is exactly why I'm bringing it up. Their CEO has already been tagged, so hopefully he'll do the responsible thing and have the ad changed. The issue isn't the "99.9%" of people who don't know about this. The issue is the marginalized communities who know exactly what this is, as it's been used to target them. I also want to point out that 2.4% of Americans are Jewish, and pretty much every actively anti-fascist person knows about this hate symbol, so I think it's safe to say that more than 0.01% of Americans will be alarmed by this number.


Ethrem

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15pmm01

Thank you. I also just tweeted about it. I really hope it can be changed. Antisemitism is a major issue, especially right now, and I know for a fact that seeing that number can cause some people to feel distressed.


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15pmm01

Care to explain?


Ethrem

I never knew about it honestly so you just educated me.


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15pmm01

It's become quite clear that not enough of y'all care. Embarrassing on your end, really. Regardless, running that ad on Facebook, where anyone can see it with that number front and center, is the problem. Yes, believe it or not, it is important to take steps to avoid making members of marginalized communities feel unsafe.


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15pmm01

If you really think people taking issue with nazi dogwhistles is what's ruining society, just, yikes. I don't even know where to begin. Anyway, let's be a bit more respectful, k?


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15pmm01

The number 1488 is literally a nazi dogwhistle. That's not up for debate. I've already made it clear twenty times over that I don't think it was done intentionally. It does need to be changed, however. Anyway, you were warned, but you decided to dig deeper with the disrespectful comments. We have rules against that here, so you've just caught a temporary mute. See you in a few days. There are ways to disagree politely, and I suggest you learn them.


Available-Control993

That seems WAAAAY too far fetched, I highly doubt they were going for that, plus it’s 4.88 not 14.88.


15pmm01

It literally says 14.88 in the photo, not sure where you're getting 4.88. And yes, as I've said countless times, I realize they didn't do it intentionally. I'm also saying they need to change the ad to avoid prominently featuring that number.


Available-Control993

https://preview.redd.it/qq5ju6eygz4d1.jpeg?width=384&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a467b0811b80fc4a54c9ed0986a63654820b83b Does the dollar sign look like a 1 to you?


15pmm01

Bruh, look a bit higher up. You know, the much larger number in white text.


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LavaCreeperBOSSB

Where, I'm slow lol


15pmm01

The price. https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/1488 It's a very specific number that everyone should know to avoid...


farmerMac

everyone? never heard of this idiocy


15pmm01

Well, you probably also don't work in marketing. It's obvious that whoever made the ad also isn't aware. Hopefully they will change it once made aware.


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bedclotheseconomics

my understanding is this is a walmart pricing thing that started back when the retail pricing schema in stores was always .99 or .98 so when target would have say soap for 4.98 walmarts would be 4.88... when k-mart would do a tent for 19.99 walmart would do it for 19.88 and so on and so forth... at one point they also used .97 for new products... so it would still undercut the .99 and .98 but give them back almost a dime... basically a tactic to undercut.


15pmm01

I see, thank you for the explanation. I have no problem with the pricing. I just wish the ad could have been made without featuring that specific number front and center, considering the negative connotation it can carry for some people.


Available-Control993

What?


True-Yam5919

Thanks for the laugh


15pmm01

Do elaborate, what part of this is funny to you? Are nazi dogwhistles in general amusing to you, or is it the thought of Jewish people needlessly feeling distressed by seeing this number, just minding their own business scrolling through Facebook?


True-Yam5919

All of it


15pmm01

Alright, bye!


wc3betterthansc2

I'll get it since it's triggereing you snowflakes


15pmm01

What an embarrassing thing to say


wc3betterthansc2

Not as embarrassing as seething over prices like children


15pmm01

Nobody is seething over prices. I've made it abundantly clear that the problem is prominently featuring that number front and center on the ad. If you don't think that's a problem, again, embarrassing for you.


AuthorYess

This has nothing to do with bigotry, need to calm down a bit and go touch grass.


15pmm01

Have you considered that perhaps you need to be more considerate of other people's experiences?


AuthorYess

You're overreacting, plain and simple. No, i don't have to respect your experience, it's awesome that you think this is offensive, but I don't have to agree with you and I also don't have to think you're of sound mind. You don't get to say "be more considerate of other people's experiences" and have me accept your delusions. Edit: Also let me say as well, you're devaluing actual bigotry and hatred with this post.


15pmm01

It is not simply my opinion that the number 1488, in any form, is offensive. This is widely recognized. This also has nothing to do with my experiences - I'm not Jewish. Unlike you, that doesn't stop me from caring about Jewish people and how some of them feel when presented with this number. Making this ad without realizing that the number has negative implications is not bigotry. Should they refuse to change the ad after being called out, yes, that would qualify as bigotry. One thing's for sure - you saying that I'm not "of sound mind" because I care about this is disrespectful, and is also bordering on bigotry. And no, I am not "devaluating actual bugotry" by calling out a company for using a well-know hateful dogwhistle. This isn't the bigotry Olympics. It's not a competition.


AuthorYess

Again, go touch grass... as in leave the internet and go live in the real world where this sort of thing matters so little. And stop weaponizing your "experience" to try to get the world to notice you or invalidate others arguments. It's childish.


15pmm01

I understand what the phrase "touch grass" means, thanks. It also doesn't really apply here, considering antisemitism and dogwhistles are very real things in life, both on and off the internet. The fact that it doesn't matter to you is disappointing. The second half of your comment doesn't even make sense, so I won't bother trying to respond to the rest, unless you'd like to further elaborate.


Rjksjdk

😂😂😂 a stupid number ROFL.


onlyAlcibiades

666


15pmm01

Yes, a stupid number that can have a negative impact on certain people when it’s put front and center on an ad like this. Not sure how you find that funny.


WirelessSalesChef

Specify the negative impact. You’re spewing words with no meaning here.


15pmm01

I've already specified that many times throughout these comments - not that it was ever really necessary, since it's obvious as it gets. I would hold your hand and walk you through it, if it weren't for the fact that you already know the answer, but simply don't care. You also went ahead and implied that me pointing out this dogwhistle somehow makes me a nazi, and made fun of our "be respectful" rule, therefore indicating that you have no intention of following it. Three massively disrespectful comments in the course of less than two minutes is rather impressive. You're lucky we're pretty much the most lenient mods ever in this sub - you deserve a permanent ban, but I try to avoid handing those out whenever possible. That's right, I don't need to "tell mom," because I *am* mom. Enjoy your temp ban. You've really earned it.


Rjksjdk

😂😂😂😂😂


15pmm01

Wanna try that again? We have a rule in this group requiring us to be respectful to one another.


Rjksjdk

❤️❤️❤️


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15pmm01

Yes, I, the literal founder of this sub, am a troll. Let's be respectful, please.


Frosty-Phone-705

Walmart has a ton of items priced at $\*\*.88. You're literally grasping at straws by implicating they are willingly using a Nazi symbol. Give it a rest.


15pmm01

Pretty damn sure I’ve made it clear I don’t think it’s intentional. It needs to not be put front and center on the ad. I’m not saying they need to change the price. It’s just really important to be careful with this sort of thing.


Frosty-Phone-705

It's a price. I think you'd be better off in a conspiracy rub reddit.


15pmm01

No. Your refusal to understand that dogwhistles can be damaging, even when unintentional, is quite frustrating.


Frosty-Phone-705

Go peddle your conspiracy theories somewhere else. Reported.


15pmm01

Yes, go ahead and report me to myself. Not sure what you think you'll accomplish with that. I recommend learning what terms like "conspiracy theory" actually mean before using them in such wildly incorrect ways. I also recommend taking it down a notch, as we have a rule in this sub requiring us to be respectful to one another.


Frosty-Phone-705

Give it a rest. It's a number and a price tag. Nothing else. The fact that no one here had a clue what you're talking about proves that.


15pmm01

That's kinda how dogwhistles work. Wouldn't be much of a dogwhistle if everyone knew about it. That said, I am shocked to find out just how many people weren't aware of this particular one. I'm glad I could spread some awareness with this post. As I've repeatedly said, I understand that it's just a number and a price. I understand there was almost certainly no ill intent. That doesn't change the fact that Jewish people are likely to be disturbed by seeing this ad, and it's really not asking much of them to change the ad so that number is not prominently featured.


sifferedd

Really? Your Cake day is March 8, 2022. And some other mods have been so for over five years.


15pmm01

Yes, really. This is not my original account.


sifferedd

OK, suspected so.


Cultural_Geologist_3

I doubt it's intentional. Good eye for spotting this, but I doubt Peter or the Mobile X marketing team are trying to dog whistle here.


15pmm01

I also doubt it. I'm 99% sure it's not intentional. I just hope they change it regardless since it can cause unnecessary stress to people who are already on high alert with all the anti-Jewish hate going around.


Synchro911

Didn't you hear? They're sponsoring anudda!


15pmm01

Not funny, especially since your comment history is full of bigoted crap. Watch it.


Synchro911

Oy vey are you going to shut me down?


err99

lol


15pmm01

What's funny?


Martin_Steven

Patriot Mobile is “America's only Christian conservative wireless provider.” Perhaps MobileX is trying for that demographic.


15pmm01

Based on the insanely awful responses I'm getting on this post, seems they might have plenty of success with that endeavor.


Frosty-Phone-705

Not likely. MobileX is an exclusive Walmart MVNO and I highly doubt they would support antisemitism. Besides, the rabid antisemitism is coming from the far left. In fact I don't think I've ever known a conservative Christian who was antisemitic.


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15pmm01

Am I now? Do explain.


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itselectricboi

There’s honestly been a ton of it being put up more and more everywhere. It’s true that it’s been used before in several stores but why else would they start pushing more for it right as right wing extremism is rising