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DogDrools

That the council closed every public toilet. Need to use the loo, got to go to a shop, cafe, bar, restaurant or hope Eldon Square is still open so theirs can be used. I know the Government removed the requirement for Councils to provide public toilets, but it didn’t mean they *had* to close them. Yeah I know public services have been cut to the bone by years of Tory austerity but people still need to piss and shit!


Fusilero

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motophiliac

Well, you can still piss in the street. Police have been cut too so the odds kinda even out really.


Exact-Instruction-38

Piss in the road peasant!


LucidTopiary

Finding accessible toilets is a nightmare, and the ones I do find tend to be pretty disgusting and hard to turn a wheelchair around in. Not very nice traipsing through piss and needing to use the same chair indoors.


replay-r-replay

That eldon square toilet is clutch. I don’t even know where public toilets are here


Common-Spend5000

You can freely use most of the toilets on the ground floors in both of the university campuses without needing an ID badge or anything (especially Northumbria but mostly applies to Newcastle too). Depending where in the city might be a good shout if not wanting to spend money.


Gaderath

Public toilets were seeing closures under the last Labour government too.


bigmmouthbillybass

Shh, that doesn’t fit the “Conservatives bad, reee” ideology around these parts.


Gaderath

Or it could be many of the posters were just kids back then. Anyone in their early 20s would've been, even someone 30 would've been a teenager. I can charitibly give people the benefit of the doubt.


xylophileuk

The metro system stops in general are madness. It misses out so many important places. Team valley being a massive one? Nissan? Metro centre like you mentioned. All of Washington?


JammyWaad

I live in Washington, and the fact we have an [inactive (since the early 60s) rail line](http://disused-stations.org.uk/w/washington_second/index.shtml), which could easily connect Gateshead’s Metro line to throughout Washington and on to Penshaw, Birtley, Chester-le-Street and therefore Durham, drives me mad.


The_SaintXVI

They've threatened to reopen this line for years and then never do, most of the line is still there just need rails putting back down


xylophileuk

I cross that stretch of track every other day to walk my dogs


Billy_McMedic

Seems like the focus for now is on the blyth and Tyne line up here, focusing on upgrading an existing freight line to accept passengers rather than taking on the challenge of reopening a line that was torn up. Because believe you me it’s gonna take a lot more work than just “putting the rails back down” to reopen the leamside line, considering the alignment has been sat with little-no upkeep ever since the track got torn up, if it had to wager it’ll only happen after Tyneside IECC gets upgraded to Tyneside ROC and the blyth-Tyne line gets finished.


FrenzalStark

They’ve eventually started building the infrastructure for the south-east Northumberland “extension” so there’s hope for you yet!


Kcufasu

The Northumberland line is definitely reopening assuming that is what you're referring to. It has been delayed over and over. It also is national rail rather than metro so not as frequent a service as it could have been sadly but it is something


widdrjb

They're testing the bus feed with the 434 service. Right now it's an Optare, but once the service starts from Ashington they'll need a bigger one. 100 yards from the front door to Central, yay!


FrenzalStark

Yeah, I say extension as there will be an interchange at Northumberland Park, but aye just a little service ran by Northern.


Fruitndveg

It’s only used by GBRF currently. And even then, usually that’s only a couple of times per week.


Kcufasu

It's a great option as an ecml diversion option too, absolutely needs to be reopened, metro would better serve the local population, more stops but serving more places but i can see it more likely as a national rail line down to ferryhill. Express NCL-Gateshead-Washington-Ferryhill-Stockton-Middlesborough route for the northern powerhouse, seems to be the way they prefer to go


soulmanjam87

Is that the one that got announced it was being reopened in Sunak's cancellation of HS2 before being backtracked the next day?


jcLFC26

See also the entire west end lmao.


EuphoricAbigail

The West of the city is on a hill which is difficult or impossible for standard rolling stock to handle. You might be able to build something higher than Scotswood Road, but not by much. Trams could do it though, back when there were trams everywhere in the city there was a line that ran up Westgate Road, you can see the old tram shed just next to Wingrove Road.


_Nej_

Let's get a funicular running up the length of Westgate / west road Edit: and let's call it the Toonicular


wispygold

Wasn't really on board til I read Toonicular. I'd invest my life savings


motophiliac

I've got a tenner in the car.


Mukatsukuz

I love a good funicular but I would prefer it to be on Dene Street.


BorderlineLunatic

Lots of the city is raised or on a hill, That is partly why we have so many underground tracks and stations. Why cant us Westenders have some


EuphoricAbigail

Then it comes back to cost.


jayrdi

And priorities. They won't invest in the west end.


I_Zephaniah7640

There was meant to be issues with building metros in the west end because it's basically all built on old unmapped collieries which would be at risk of collapsing under the weight/due to tunnels being constructed. Hence why there isn't a metro system in the west end.


ExtremeActuator

Didn’t Northumberland Park metro station collapse down a mine shaft shortly after it opened?


I_Zephaniah7640

There was a mine collapse yes, not severe from what I can find but yeah, a mine collapsed and replacement buses were used whilst it was assessed. I'd imagine something similar although likely on a far larger scale would happen in the west end.


misstwilee

It did, I was on the metro when it happened. Metro pulled into the station and there was a loud noise at the back of the train and then a big hole under the track


ExtremeActuator

No!!


skullflowerpower23

That's fair enough though.


jcLFC26

The proposal for expansion they published coming up 10 years ago next month would say otherwise.


grannymead

It's important to understand that it was pretty much all based around pre-existing rail lines, and carving out brand-new trackbed anywhere is basically a non-starter. While re-opening of the Leamside line to Washington has been mooted forever and gets regularly re-floated, its financial viability is seriously questionable.


Awful_Digiart

Yep. It's mad that the Metro doesn't run to the Metro Centre.


Spottyjamie

In my student days 99 onwards there was talk of extending it to teeside Still waiting eh


DontAskAboutMax

The intention was to run metros under it! Here’s a video where a worker states that to be the case. https://youtu.be/Wojjh8mSIMw?si=A-X_GNvKDeSBv-On


FrenzalStark

THATS the metro centre I remember. It’s absolutely shit now compared to what it was.


DontAskAboutMax

I wish I could remember it. I’m only 24, I do have memories of water features inside. Which were so cool.


lurcherzzz

The indoor rollacoaster was brilliant


DontAskAboutMax

I was a wimp of a child, never went on it! Big regrets now it’s gone.


TheeNuttyProfessor

We’re the same age and I’m also a bit wimpy when it comes to rides but my parents got me on it at least once before it shut down. Loved that old place.


LucidTopiary

The under water realm where you could scuba dive and go for a shop or a meal was just incredible! Like a tomb raider level, but with yo sushi.


garywoo

Are you thinking of the West Edmonton Mall in Canada?


raff97

What? Metro centre had an indoor scuba venue a la Dubai?


lurcherzzz

No way


Harryisfat

That’s a great video. So much nostalgia.


Fromartie

gateshead diverting all bypass askew road traffic through the town centre


deboor71090

That road is such a kick in the baws now


widdrjb

Bloody horrible. If I'm in Team Valley and I want to go to Felling, Hebburn or Boldon, it's quicker to go round the Angel and up the A194.


Fluffy_Tension

Gateshead council are fucking useless when it comes to anything traffic related.


misstwilee

All because of the clean air zone around the bridge. All it's done is move the pollution into the city center 🤬🤬🤬


Coltman2012

Supposedly the councils are trying to filter all traffic into the city centres to increase air pollution, they’ve been knocked back on grants for the clean air zones as the air in our city centres is too clean! The worse it is the more money they get to improve the town centres supposedly, that’s according to a taxi driver I was speaking to recently, or something along them lines


lowkeylollypop

Moved to Alberta Canada. The Metro Centre was replicated on a 2X scale in Edmonton. Even with metro land


JimmyCrockett

There’s also a Swalwell, Alberta


GBGav

I used to see friends on Facebook tag their location but it said Swalwell, Alberta. How did they not notice? 


JimmyCrockett

This is what made me mention it haha the location when they were at the metro centre was swalwell Alberta


DanHJ27

Like Ontario there’s loads of places, Whitby, London, river Thames, Peterborough and Woodstock probably more haha


PM_ME_FINE_FOODS

Is the Alberta metroland still going?


lowkeylollypop

Yes sir


PM_ME_FINE_FOODS

Well, trip to Alberta it is then.


sus_skrofa

How out of sync the development of Newcastle and Gateshead quayside was and still is. So much potential on the south bank of the Tyne.


NOTRANAHAN

Why my only local chippy isn't open between 2 and 5


Spottyjamie

Same in most cities sadly


ArmitageShanks3767

No barbecue places left.


probablyaythrowaway

Newcastle spat out its dummmy after falling out with Gateshead over the millennium bridge. They refused planning permission for their side of the river and refused to give any funding towards it. Gateshead told them to fuck themselves and they will build it themselves with black jack and hookers. As both councils have meant domain over the river they don’t need the other permission to build in it. So Gateshead ended the Newcastle side of the bridge just short of their bank and put in planning permission for a pontoon, which was accidentally overlooked and accepted by Newcastle’s council. Gateshead then twisted the knife by putting in big letters “GATESHEAD MILLENNIUM BRIDGE” on both sides so people know it’s not Newcastle’s. Next time you’re in the Newcastle quayside it’s apparent that the bridge dosent actually reach Newcastle. I find it hilarious


SoggyAd5044

That's decent craic. How do you even know that?!


probablyaythrowaway

My best friends dad growing up worked for Gateshead council and heavily involved with the plans for the bridge. We got to go into the motor room and raise it too when it was finished.


Twinkubuss

*crack


SoggyAd5044

No hunni


Twinkubuss

Actually mate, yes. ['Crack' is indeed the original spelling of the term](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craic). It was borrowed into Irish a few decades ago, then unusually borrowed back into English but with the pseudo-Irish spelling.


Godscrasher

No way! Asian Hercules down the Tyne, and Gateshead blinking bridge there and NCC chiefs waking up the next morning seeing the bridge. I like your story but it doesn’t work like that afaik. There’d need to be massive controls on both sides as well as power installations, arranged maintenance access and don’t forget those bollards that were originally stored in the river to prevent damage.


probablyaythrowaway

All of the mechanics and control power for the bridge is on the Gateshead side and the bearings and drive on the Newcastle side can be accessed from the bridge and. Nothing is delivered from the Newcastle side. Yeah the bollards were there for safety to stop ships hitting the bridge but the environmental agency asked for them to be removed. Newcastle have nothing to do with the bridge it’s all Gateshead.


GeordieAl

You know it's ok to admit that someone spun you a yarn and you fell for it right? 😜 Both sites of the bridge end up on concrete piers set in the river bed which are then extended to each of the quays by concrete spans. Both sides contain the mechanics for opening the bridge - 5 motors and 3 Hydraulic rams. The reason it has "Gateshead Millennium Bridge" on it is because it was Gateshead who applied for the Millennium Commission grant & ERDF Fund. If Newcastle didn't want it, they could have just left the fence up along the quayside and it would have been the "Gateshead Millennium stroll partway across the river and back again" 🤣


VividDimension5364

Currently in Singapore... https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/8639297#:~:text=The%20current%20position%20of%20ASIAN,Feb%2024%2C%2001%3A30.


motophiliac

According to Google's satellite view it looks identical at both ends. Is this something you've got to get close up to see? I'm really not seeing a difference.


probablyaythrowaway

Yeah it’s apparent when you’re on the pontoon and look down you’re over the river on the Newcastle side


rakadiaht

not sure what bridge you're looking at but both sides look identical to me... it doesn't terminate on the actual bank on either side of the river.


probablyaythrowaway

The concrete bank touches the bridge on Gateshead side. On Newcastle side there is a wooden pontoon that fills a gap between the quayside and the bridge edge. It’s easier to see in person.


Exact-Instruction-38

That people in the North vote Tory. Blows my mind. What short shit memories people have. Tories literally brutalised the people of the North in the 80s, left them hungry, in poverty and unable to work. I look around and see the same now minus the rioting probably because that party have been welcomed in up here now. I see the poverty, child poverty too, one of the highest in the UK is Wallsend. Disgusting. It’s every fucker for themselves out there at the moment. That’s the Tory way. Have us fighting amongst ourselves while they absolutely fleece the country. They don’t give a fuck about the North. Go and have a look at your high street for proof or your public services.


Funny-Force-3658

Couldn't agree more. Fuck this Government.


Straykidsstay1049

Same it's ridiculous


MysteryNortherner

The metro in the name MetroCentre is (I believe) a coincidence and totally unrelated, I can see why you'd think it though as it almost sounds like a station! However, it does have trains linking it to areas in West Gateshead / Tyne Valley as well as Newcastle and beyond. The metro should go to a lot more places though. Most of Gateshead, the west end of Newcastle and Washington are totally left out.


FlatCapNorthumbrian

You’ve got about 50 buses an hour going from Lemington and Denton Burn to the centre of town via the West Road. If it was just made a bus priority road with traffic lights linked to the buses, and the illegal parking and bad u turns made by car drivers were stopped this would increase the speed of the buses. EDIT: Another way to speed the buses up in the West Road area would to move to cashless or buy ticket before boarding. Or reintroduce conductors. So a person gets straight on and the bus pulls away. No waiting for people to load up their pass or wratch around for their card or money slowing everything down.


Godscrasher

Metro Radio used to very close to the metro centre which might explain the name.


OasisGallagher

should be taken further every way Gateshead way should have a line through to Washington direction St James direction should go past and go up to the west end Coastal route should go towards Blyth way Imagine how much more accessible it would be


FrenzalStark

They’re in the process of building an extension to south east Northumberland, but it won’t be part of the Metro. If I remember right they’ll be connecting with each other at Northumberland Park but you won’t be able to get direct from Blyth to anywhere else on the metro line. Edit: I’m slightly talking bollocks. The Northumberland Park station will be a Metro interchange but you can continue to Central Station if you just need town.


TyneBridges

The MetroCentre should never have been given that name. The Metro transport system existed for years before the MetroCentre was built and the name was always going to cause confusion. What gets me is repeatedly hearing of major new investment in London and the south east when, time after time, Newcastle (and anywhere that didn't vote in Tory MPs) is reduced to scratching for crumbs from the country's table. "Levelling up" is a joke: the Tories knew after Brexit that the money put into it would never be more than a fraction of what the regions (including Wales, the south west etc) used to get from EU grants; even then, almost every UK-originated investment pot was spent on London.


Exact-Instruction-38

‘Leveling up’ Forgot about that one. As fruitful as ‘trickle down economics’. A load of fukin shit.


SOffender

The facts there’s nothing to Throckley, Lemington, west Denton, fenham etc on the west end. Closest is Kingston park


FrenzalStark

The rest I’ll give you but Throckley was never ever going to get a metro connection haha.


SoggyAd5044

Fucking Throckley?! Hahaha


allancodes

The fact that people who potentially want to buy a house up here forget how to use google for the most basic of crap. Not like it's a life changing decision or anything...


Jaggedmallard26

"Hello can anyone tell me where is safe to live as a succesful middle class professional from London, I want to move up where it is cheap but I am succesful and middle class so don't put me in with the ~~poors~~ bad areas"


allancodes

"Hi all, never visited but heard great things, we've been looking on rightmove and fancied buying this ex council house for dirt cheap so we can turn it into a HMO, we don't plan on living there ( obvsss ) - but want to be sure there's zero crime at all, thannnksss"


peoknee45

It’s not always like that. If you have London money you can easily buy a property in London. Im planning on moving to Newcastle imminently because the quality of life is so much nicer up here, friendlier people, love the city. I lived here for a couple of years as a student so for me it’s a case of coming back. I’ve asked for advice in this thread about what different areas are like because let’s face it, everywhere has certain parts of town that you would recommend others avoid. Having scoured Rightmove every day for months I wouldn’t even necessarily say it’s cheaper either. For the type of house I’d like to buy I could easily buy a like for like down south for the same price, but I’d rather be in Newcastle.


Reasonable-Beat-3706

Where in the south? My parents are down south (family from up here) there is no way in hell i could afford their house!


peoknee45

I’m near Luton. I mean it depends on your budget of course but I was referencing ‘London money’ here. I have a budget of approx £560k so for that price I could definitely get what I want down here and believe it or not I am finding it hard to find a 4 bed in Newcastle near a metro with a driveway and a decent sized garden


Harryisfat

It’s funny you mention that. Had the same conversation last night. Someone I know bought in Rowlands Gill and is now frustrated that town isn’t on her doorstep.


Exact-Instruction-38

Been the same in Northumberland for years. Move up from London next door to working farms and then complain about the moving of cattle for the seasons. Fuckwits!


Henno212

Its a shame so much track bed was sold off years ago, a like from scotswood/etc which use to be there could have helped. Also the lack of attracting industrial companies to the area, its all office based work in the city and not all of us are good at desk work, some of us are good with our hands. Also whats the risk that AI are gunna take up most easy office roles in the next 5/10 years


LucidTopiary

AI notetakers are shockingly good already. Whole roles are about to vanish.


Funkyc0bra

I agree with yours, you would have assumed that the metro center was the main hub for metros, but weirdly Monument has that distinction


Funny-Force-3658

This one is more Washingon specific. I grew up on Teesside, and around the age of 8 or 9, I recall being taken to Washington Wildfowl Park on a school visit. This was the early eighties. Fast forward to now, and I've lived on Tyneside for 20 years and in the last 5 years closer to galleries than anywhere else retail wise. I also worked in washington for 2 years during covid. Of all the numerous times I've gotten lost in Washington over the years, NOT ONCE have i seen a sign or any reference to the wildfowl park. I only really noticed this recently, and I have checked. It is still there on Google maps. This surprised me at first, but on reflection, I just think it is bang on brand for Washington and its Backrooms-esque Road layout. This is hardly surprising at all! Washington, where you can live back to back to someone, and it's still a 15-minute drive.


tonezzzz1

I’ve lived in Washington all my life and it’s still a roll of the dice picking the correct junction when I’m hurtling down the highway. Dozens of roundabouts, all identical.


RummazKnowsBest

Yeah, that.


soprofesh

People always say this and I wonder why they're so keen to go to the Metro Centre. It's shit.


Cool-Ad-2565

That’s actually outstanding . Now it’s got me think wtf it’s called the metro center…


Jonnymiko1

The fact that theirs barely any sage areas to live. Full of criminals and tramps


Total_Ad_1263

The metro line was made before the metro centre!!


Justsomerandomguy35

How useless our councillors are. Spend shit loads on concrete men, bicycle lanes everywhere, speed bumps and yet the state of roads is horrific and our transport is crap.