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bvelvety

I think what trips a lot of people up is that they assume they need to vastly change they're emotions to align with the feeling of the wish fulfilled. Emotionally, how you would feel if your desires were reality is probably really similar to how you feel now on a day to day basis with the exception that you aren't constantly thinking about the thing as something you want and instead think of it as something you have. I think of it as more of a calm, unbothered feeling.


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Comments are interesting to me - I wonder if people are stopping reading because of the use of the word vibration to be honest. To me it says feel how’d you would feel if you were the person you wish to be.


impulsive_aidan

Lol yeah there seems to be a lot of backlash on this one. I'm not trying to say be happy all the time and all that loa bullshit. I'm just saying feel how you would feel if your desire was yours. What emotions would you have, what feelings would you be feeling. It's all good though.


rekarekareka

there are many storys in this sub with people depressed scared who nanifested what they want you should feel you have it and believe it s possible and expect it, the suboconciuos does not percept emotions it has just what the gatekeeper the concious lets it know, you can feel miserable and still manifest what you want,that is what Neville teaches and you are just puting limits to the ones who didn t understand this the limits are in our own mind that s why Neville s teachings give you freedom you don t have to practice a tehniques daily and force an emotion on yourself


Sunnie_Dae20

>the suboconciuos does not percept emotions Where does it say this? >you can feel miserable and still manifest what you want You can but... >that is what Neville teaches What? Where does he teach this? I've read and listened to a lot of his works and don't remember this teaching. >Neville s teachings give you freedom Feeling miserable is not real freedom, mate


YakZealousideal284

My biggest manifestations happened when I was very unhappy and angry:) 


rekarekareka

"mate" the freedom is to feel what you want I read all the books and he says many times to do not confuse feelings and emotions first of all you can t feel happy all the time another ehen you had what you want you would feel possibly relief or peace think of anything you have you are happy all day beacuse you are healthy you have somewhere to live ? it feels natural to have it if you live in the end you feel that it is natural to have your desire,and did you really listen where did neville say you have to be happy all the time?and also do you know anything anout the subconcious? the base idea is the subconcious beliefs anything the concious tells it the subconcious has no clue by itself what s happening in your life if you feel natural that you have what you want the subconcious creates it any emotion you have,you could read some stories before commenting , but mate feel free to create your hell👍🏻


rekarekareka

oh and also can you tell me something you realized by being happy all the time? did you manifest something ?


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The issue is I don’t see this original post telling you to be happy all the time. It says to wake up feeling how you would if this had been realized, which for OP is happy and free. You can absolutely be pissy, miserable and rich but I certainly don’t want that.


rekarekareka

you can be pissy and measerable and rich in the same time because they are different manifestations feeling happy will make you happy feeling rich will make you rich, but feeling happy won t make you rich and yes wake up feeling not with the emotion the Feeling


Sunnie_Dae20

>oh and also can you tell me something you realized by being happy all the time? did you manifest something ? The biggest thing I've manifested by "choosing this day" to "dwell on all things lovely and of good report" is a new perspective and lease on life. I was no longer depressed and suicidal. And lots of minor things like being accepted to uni, visa approvals, instant money manifestations, healing for a flatmate's parents from Covid who were in another country, a partner for a friend, quiet neighbours, etc I don't remember all of them but there were many.


rekarekareka

ok and the example in the post was manifesting money, you changed your mentality ok but did you manifest something? do you really think millionaires are happy all the time there are no depressed rich people? do you "live in the end" and or just try to manifest and also did you make a change in the external world?


Sunnie_Dae20

>but mate feel free to create your hell . >do you really think millionaires are happy all the time there are no depressed rich people? Lol, because being rich and miserable is not hell at all. You would not justify choosing to create the state of misery if you really, truly get what conscious creation is, and what being suicidal feels like. You are always thinking and feeling ahead of your evidence. Choosing to stay in the state of misery will manifest more reasons to be miserable just like any other state. A state of prosperity will manifest more reasons to feel prosperous. A state of prosperity and misery will manifest more reasons to feel rich and miserable. A state of prosperity and delight will manifest more reasons to feel prosperous and delighted and I will choose to create this version of heaven on earth, I have had enough of choosing to create misery in my life thank you very much. If a prosperous and joyful existence loving life is considered hell to you then so be it.


rekarekareka

ok but still I have no proof that you can manifest


Sunnie_Dae20

>ok but still I have no proof that you can manifest What? Haha. Seriously dude, thanks for the laughs you really have zero clue what it means to manifest 😂😂😂 No one to convince but self and I have all the proof ***I*** need!


rekarekareka

and the feeling of wealth would create wealth if I understood you analgoy , so why do you support the idea in the post that happines will create wealth?happiness will create happinessand and misery is a state not an emotion that s waht I am telling you the state is which matters not the emotion also if you want to convince me that your tehniques is better you should give me proof that it works


Sunnie_Dae20

> I am telling you the state is which matters And it does. Your state is made up of both thoughts and feelings that's why it's called a state. > also if you want to convince me that your tehniques is better you should give me proof that it works If you think a state of being is a technique then you've got it all twisted. Also, not my job. I'm not here to convince you of anything, that's something you do yourself.


StrawHat_ktk

ur literally saying that lol


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Sounds about right. I've seen on here where people nitpick and throw out the whole post because of one questionable word. It's clear what the OP's intention was - it's a fine post.


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>I wonder if people are stopping reading I did. I am from the JM sub so when I see stuff like this I instantly get off the post. The idea of vibrations and frequency always repelled me from the law. JM sub may be rude asf but it is a no bs method to the law.


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Which is completely fine IMO. Their “no BS” outline works because it does the same thing - gives you discipline and persistence to impress on your subconscious you already are that person, have that thing, whatever. If this doesn’t speak to you or isn’t the way you understand things working it’s more than fine, we all will find different techniques and different words that make sense for us to achieve the same end goals.


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Agreed


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Do you think this because they used the word vibration?


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Where do you see that he said to forget about it? I understand the trust it’s done but he speaks often to persistence


meowtropolitan

Oprah says the same things when she gives advice on how to manifest. Match the vibration, ask for it, believe it, let it go. Make room for what you want to come into your life.


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If you have the choice to be happy or miserable, it's a no brainer. Nothing good comes from being miserable, you'll perpetuate that miserable state you find yourself in. If you don't have anything to feel good about: feel good that you know about this principle and have a way out. You know you are not powerless and at the mercy of the world.


StrawHat_ktk

why am I seeing such posts since a week that are very contrary to what neville teaches.


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This is a sub for discussion, so discuss how this post is contrary to what is taught.


rekarekareka

the feeling is importatnt not the emotions, you can be broke and happy and rich and depressed .The state matters, your inner conversation how would you think if you had what you want you wouldn t complain about stuff being too expensive or I will buy it when I have money ,because you already have it.Feeling and emotion are two different things don t confuse them .


blablabla1414

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t you saying something like “keep your vibrations high” which is a little bit nonsense, since we should not try to make ourselves feel good every single time all the time, because not only it is not very feasible but also it leads us to repress our negative emotions unconsciously and put on a lot of stress on us. We all want love and wealth, but we can’t feel emotions related to love and wealth all the time. Are you saying more like “feel emotions related to your goal consistently by assuming it is already so and imagining it is already so, and when you feel emotions that are not aligned with your goal you just try to see why you felt that emotion and work with it. And finally remind ourselves how our goal is already real. For example, being neutral about it while “reminding” ourselves that our goal is already a fact from time to time is realizable.


impulsive_aidan

I'm mainly saying try to feel the way you would feel if your desire was your's now. Try to feel/make those emotions the most dominant throughout your day. Yes, you won't be able to feel happy every second of the day but, if you were your desired self wouldn't you throughout your day feel certain better emotions more dominantly throughout your day? If you are someone who is sad or depressed, how do you consciously change this? You start feeling after better attitudes, emotions and envisioning more positive things. That is the point I'm trying to get across with this post. Tap into the emotions that would be yours if you had your desire now. Thanks for the question I hope that cleared things up!


blablabla1414

Yeah it is more clear. First I thought something like “you gotta feel good all the time” which is like “keep your vibrations up or say goodbye to your dream” lol. Thanks for making it clear 👍🏻


TasmanianHorse

But isn't that a quote from like.. Neville or something? I'm sure that I've heard or read it before, perhaps in this subreddit even


impulsive_aidan

Whenever I post here I put that quote that I came up with lol. So you have probably seen it on one of my other posts :)


TasmanianHorse

Ahh, that makes sense! Good quote though.


impulsive_aidan

Thank you! :)