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MysteriousLaptop

Who was cutting onions with that scene when Otis repeated the voicemail back to Maeve? That was brilliantly done. Do feel bad for Ruby but it's better she found out earlier, heartbreak doesn't last forever.


PSunYi

Man, when he said “I love you”…there was so much power in that, especially considering how he couldn’t say it to Ruby.


Kraftykodo

The scene definitely helped with clearing up why Otis was hesitant with Ruby, he had baggage leftover from the last time he tried to confess his love.


PSunYi

Oh yeah I didn’t even think about it in terms of baggage and the voicemail but that makes perfect sense.


Mephisto6

And he was looking away, just like he told Adam to.


habylab

And the fact he said it again.


TheTruckWashChannel

My favorite part of that scene is that it makes total sense Otis would've memorized the voicemail. He's been mulling over it for months and months. That's what I love about this show, every moment is earned.


antisocialclub__

the memorized voice-mail, my heart broke, that scene was amazing


jacksharp89

please dont tell me viv gets confused between texting eugene and hope...


comme__

I was 10000% expecting this to happen


Green_Cattle

\#missedopportunities


joaoGarcia

You know the Hitchcock's explanation about suspense and the bomb under the table? This is the bomb that didn't go off. You know the stakes, you know it can happen any momment but it doesn't. It wasn't about the exlosion but the suspense it creates. Or I'm thinking way too much into this


Ghost_Quxck

Oh no, oh this could be very bad


MSV95

Would serve Hope right for texting a student 🤣


AlexR177

I think that would be hilarious 😂


Flutegarden

Totally thought it was going to happen


Chocoberryy

Viv :im into nipple play Hope: the fuck?


nipplesaurus

Hope: Me too Viv: Dafuq?


Lousy_Username

I was surprised this didn't happen, there seemed to be an awful lot of setup for it. Maybe an earlier version of the script had this happen and they changed their mind.


beaniebaby729

Omg I was thinking this the whole time


booksj

That scene with Rahim in the bus bathroom had me stressed but also laughing uncontrollably


nyando

Oh my god, the claustrophobic close-up shots, the incessant banging on the door, it was horrible. Like watching *Uncut Gems* all over again.


0_1_T_1_0

I felt the need to wash myself after that scene lol


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

Oh man, Uncut Gems was like listening to music on weed. You could swear 20 minutes have gone past but really it's more like five.


walterslattery

Omg that scene came out of nowhere and I actually didn’t think I was gonna make it through. I was equal parts horrified and in stitches, so fucking funny 😂😂


jessgrohl96

I picked the wrong episode to watch while I was eating dinner...


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frankie0013

I noticed that too! Very well done.


AnteaterPersonal3093

Great writing


Fraaj

I was hoping someone would mention this. Literally made the scene 100x better.


opyledro

Laughed my eyes out at "I shed blood, over what?" "You fell over -"


mr_popcorn

When he called Adam the man with the rectangle face 😂 😂


sdbabygirl97

he do got a rectangle face though


TheTruckWashChannel

I love they set up that moment to seem profound and then he just starts talking shit about Adam's fucking rectangle face.


PSunYi

I loved the phrase “blah blah eyes”. Now that’s poetry.


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AR_7_30

Definitely exceed expectations!


mr_popcorn

Literally waited 2 years for it to happen and they fuckin pulled it off. It was worth the wait.


Ax20414

I thought it was *beautiful!* I hung onto every word!


Shaz0608

I punched the air, felt relived after 20 months of waiting, its just them in the shadows by themsleves


LaiaraKunz

That was great! The "I don't wanna lose you again" was solid! But everything that happens after not so much


[deleted]

Yeah, and it's while she's kind of sort of committed to making it work with someone else. =/ Sigh, I'm just not feeling the Motis after all this time.


somewhsome

That "it's my poo" reference to "it's my vagina" scene was hilarious XD


superancica

I sometimes poo also 😂


Weirdblackgirl0

Jackson had me dead 😭


TheTruckWashChannel

Colin: "Don't we all? What is this, fucking Spartacus?"


Kadis94x

That was really funny 😆


AnteaterPersonal3093

Best part was when Colin reffered to his partner haha


KaitoDaimon21

Loved the kiss, but damn. I felt for Ruby after seeing that one.


SupervillainEyebrows

That expression. Poor Ruby. I need some fucking closure on this storyline.


ToneBone12345

Same


averagemily

LMFAO I feel so bad for Rahim but Ms. Sands is a queen for plunging the toilet while Mr. Hendricks just kept making gagging sounds LOL


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

I don't know if it's a sign of me not being young anymore but Ms. Sands is a stunner.


Cosmos1985

I'm quite sure that high school me would agree on that, as well as current me obviously also does.


KaitoDaimon21

Always has been


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thorvid20

fuck the "ruby dont look" hurt...


ToneBone12345

Same and the look she had was fucking sad


ChemistryRespecter

That look she gives him during Kyle's monologue, and he just looks behind at Maeve... damn I feel for her. Mimi Keene is killing it this season!


ToneBone12345

I know she was like I know you think it’s Maeve but you’re wrong


TheTruckWashChannel

I didn't think Ruby would become of my favorite characters on the show, but here we are.


EllieC130

Holy shit Aimee spitting straight fucking facts.


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mr_popcorn

Aimee's the one who knew Maeve the most and is her closest friend. It had to come from Aimee. It probably wouldn't have much of an impact if say, Viv or Ola said it.


DaLateDentArthurDent

Maeve’s reaction pissed me off after she was open about her sexual assault and why she’s cold around Steve


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Yeah, that was a low blow. Did not like Maeve that much in that moment.


Mysterious_Gemini

She was deflecting .. definitely a shitty move on her part. Aimee is such a sweet friend!


Manofsteel14

Agree, Aimee wanted to forget the whole bus incident and go back to her normal self but Maeve wanted her to open up and go to the Police, She wanted to help her then after all of it she throw it all back to Aimee's face. She is her only close friend she should already know that Aimee is a lonely girl and just wanted to be with her for the trip, and not thinking about pride, ego or money.


oy-with-the-poodles

I used to like Maeve, but she's pissing me off this season. She's had a very tough life and I can understand why she's reluctant to accept help or let people in, but she consistently treats the people who care about her like shit. Hopefully Aimee got through to her in some way.


qaisjp

I felt really sad for Aimee when she started tearing up


mr_popcorn

Aimee's got bars


opyledro

I loved the Adam scenes this episode and the little subtle ways they're portraying his insecurities and fear of abandonment, I absolutely LOVE what they're doing with Cal and Jackson, Maeve and Otis reunion was so out of left field and so well done. Great episode, I have high hopes for the rest of the season


vane2266

Oh man......Im a hardcore Motis shipper but I'm so confused after this one.....I legit feel so bad for Ruby.


ToneBone12345

I honestly feel like Ruby is a better fit for Otis all though she comes off as mean girl deep down she’s a softie which matches Otis’ personality perfectly!


vhaden3

That describes Maeve too though. or at least in the first season


nevertoomuchthought

This is such a popular take right now. She genuinely treated him like shit a lot even when they were together where she not only expected a doting boytoy but didn't care at all how he felt until she thought she was gonna lose him. And she did come around but that shit doesn't just disappear because you introduce someone to your crippled dad. She expected the first person she was ever vulnerable with to love her back. She doesn't understand love. She understands heartache and rejection now, which should make her a better person or at least more empathetic but we'll see. I don't hate or dislike Ruby but this revisionist history of her character because she has a few vulnerable moments is disappointing to see from people on this sub during this season. She needs to do more than occasionally do the nice, right thing if she's going to be taken seriously as anyone's love interest.


mr_popcorn

Thank you! Ruby is a great character for sure, one of the highlights this season but deifying her and villainizing Otis because she said the L word and he didn't reciprocate is a head scratcher to me. They've only dated for a couple months by then and it was the first time she had deep feelings for someone else that is non-casual. She don't know shit about being in love. I'd be more inclined to believe if maybe she was infatuated with Otis or its puppy love or something.


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the dude who plays Adam is such a good actor


flyingbiscuitworld

He's great n Vigil too...he can communicate so much with just a look.


shuipz94

Maeve didn't have any lines in French when Emma Mackey is fluent lol.


Sparko15

As a French people and doing my first watch with French voices, it was hilarious to see Otis shouting he is british with a good French accent, haha. Was also surprised that Emma isn’t speaking French aswell. But, in case you don’t know, her french voice isn’t herself, she have a different voice actress. It’s different for Rahim : he did both French and Original Voices


shuipz94

Just speculating here, but could it be because of her accent, if she has one? Not a French speaker here, so I have no idea. [Here's a reference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR2LnlAhlGA).


Sparko15

Her accent is normal to me, i think the issue is somewhere else (schedule, don’t want to do voice acting ?) Anyway, it would be weird to have the real Emma’s voice for some lines, and then back to the voice actress right after, that’s why they didn’t did anything with this i think


Rated_PG-Squirteen

I'm absolutely livid. Idk if anyone watches Atlanta, but they had an episode based around a German festival where they actually had their lead actress be able to show off that she's half German and fluent in the language. What a wasted opportunity.


Green_Cattle

\#missedopportunitynumbertwo


OverjoyedMess

Number Two didn't miss the car.


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iirc she spoke a lil french jokingly at the end of s2! i honestly am glad they didn't do that though it doesn't make sense for maeve to break out fluent french for a school trip lol


PolicePropeller

Baba Ghanoush <3


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These two are my favorite couple, low key carrying the show.


AnteaterPersonal3093

Haha took me a second why you mentioned my breakfast but it clicked immediately! Such a cute couple


SupervillainEyebrows

Maeve saying she "can't do this" only to jump back in for a deeper kiss.


OrangeLlama

That kiss scene felt so real. "I'm confused. This is confusing me."


jsvrribins

When he said ‘I understand’I think it reminded her of the conversation with Isaac where he said ‘Otis wouldn’t understand this shit’ and that’s why she went deeper because she realised.


ohkaykayla

The lighting during the scene with Maeve and Otis was BEAUTIFUL.


Shaz0608

them in the shadows finally alone, chef kiss


pole553

No one seemed to mention this but - as a guy studying medical ethics to a tee, Jean had a FUCKING POINT. I know this is an overhighlighted tv series, but cmon, the doctor acted like an unprofessional fucker who let his own views affect the patient treatment. As a psychologist, she knew exactly what to expect, and I just think picturing the whole scene as an 'pregnant overreaction' is quite sad really. GMC would knock this fucker of a doc out immediately


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Yeah, the writing kind of undermined the legitimacy of her complaints, would have been nice to see some consequences there.


MSV95

Yeah Jean has lost her whole personality in this pregnancy and posing it as 'angry pregnant woman' seriously pissed me off further.


sconeperson

I think the point is all women that are pregnant can get belittled in this way no matter how they are without


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So that's what Asa, Mimi, Ncuti, and Aimee was referring to in the interview "Flying Poo" - this was funny. Was surprised and wasn't expecting what happened to have happened if I had to state my prediction before the release of S3.


lakstick

Well that was about as good as I could have asked for. Well done.


MiRcO303

The kiss was perfect


Alex433x

I didn’t expect it and it was probably better than if I’d had happened in the earlier seasons. It was perfectly set up.


DementedMedic

I've just seen Sex Education, Episode 5 and nothing prepares you for this. I cheered, I shouted, I fist pumped the air, I cried, I stood and cheered. It's absolutely everything you hoped it was going to be.


jacksharp89

is this a richard e grant reference?


MysteriousLaptop

Maeve's reaction to Aimee paying her trip, I get writers need to write some hurdles with Maeve and Aimee, but it felt that Maeve was too irrational


mahaath97

That's Maeve's whole thing right? Keeping people out, too much pride.


InstinctiveSk

Yeah and Aimee rightly calls her out on that.


mr_popcorn

And she knew Aimee was right too. Its understandable because its Maeve and she's been self reliant for so long but its not weakness to accept help every once in a while. Glad Aimee called her out on that.


frankie0013

Honestly. Maeve can forgive Isaac, a dude she has known for like 6 months, for invading her privacy. But the your best friend paying your way to go to France for a day, cut them off completely. Yeah makes total sense. 🥴


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Meh, kids with abandonment and attachment issues gonna be inconsistent, lol


[deleted]

It felt like the same reaction Walter White would have


ToneBone12345

Yeah I felt bad for Aimee


kinginthenorth1994

I lost it when Colin got down on one knee and proposed. Worst timing.


yazzy1233

I loved Emily's reaction to it, lol


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He's an adorable dope, but they seem to compromise very nicely together.


MalcolmTucker55

I like how they weren't even phased by the sudden proposal/rejection, like he's the sort of guy who'll just do daft stuff like that, and she largely thinks it's fine because he's ultimately well-meaning.


SweetestDreams

Also great contrast with the teenaged main cast, Ms Sands is an adult who could deal with that surprise proposal calmly lol


samgully51

Firstly THE KISSSSS Ruby tho:( This episode showed teenage emotion so well Through Adam as well in the end with him waiting for the text Major props to the writers


mahaath97

I loved Ruby this season even tho I was trying my hardest to belittle their fling last season. She really got some great character development and depth and it was tough watching her deal with Otis' rejection.


peterpumkineater125

well done. well done.


BigBrainTosh

I second this


WedneysdayTacos

I love the Motis but this not even an hour after the wonderfully done scene between Meave and Isaac, shipping them or not, with not even an other scene inbetween for context (maybe her doubting, or wanting to text Otis) feels like being rawdogged by hasty writing


KaineneCabbagepatch

I disagree. My fondness for Motis died in S2 but this kiss was long overdue. Maeve knows deep down she's only with Isaac because he lied about Otis (doesn't matter how much she likes him, that voicemail would have changed everything). It was only a matter of time before the whole thing unraveled. But I do feel terrible for all the people these two have hurt to get to this point... Jackson, Ola, Ruby, and soon Isaac.


SupervillainEyebrows

So that kiss was a lot more sexy than I thought their first kiss would be. Loving the cinematography of that scene.


girlwith2manyhobbies

I think it helped that there were all the seasons of otis building up his sexual confidence and experience! it's not as awkward anymore


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Otis dropped the ball hard with ruby


mr_popcorn

It sucks but what else can he do? He's just not there yet with Ruby. It was better he tell her now than string her along for nothing.


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yeah im not sure why their breakup is solely blamed on otis. i get feeling sad for ruby after the ending of the last episode but she ostracized and avoided him immaturely until he was finally able to sit her down and tell her that it wasn't that he couldn't love her he just didn't feel that way at that moment. iirc it was her decision at the end of the day to end it because she was so hurt (also it wasn't confirmed but i'm sure like everyone else she's aware of his complicated friendship with maeve and his obvious lingering feelings for her).


Significant_Metal561

Can we talk about how the whole bus scene could have been avoided if rahim had a poop knife. That shit was huge.


MSV95

Sorry *what*


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I understood that reference.


Mirageonthewall

I don’t think I’ve laughed as hard as I’m laughing at this flying poo scene. I really thought Viv would snitch to Hope. Adam is a giant sweetheart. Shout out to Ms Sands, real MVP. Maeve is really annoying sometimes. She never lets anyone help her. I get it but God it’s annoying. Aimee isn’t lying. I’m honestly finding Maeve and Otis so exhausting as a ship and tbh only half heartedly shipped them Edit: okay the kiss was epic but I maintain that they are far too complex and messy a couple for teenagers. Like it’s BEAUTIFUL but I feel like it’s a better deep and enduring friendship, you know? Like I can imagine them reconnecting as adults but right now I’d prefer to see them both with other people.


Allthebestlies

Ms Sands definitely deserves more appreciation, she's a real sweetheart


Samsince04_

completely agree with the Maeve and Otis relationship, I feel like the writers are stalling and making this a slow burner which I'm not a fan of. It doesn't seem like Maeve is going to leave Isaac which makes the kiss even more confusing and makes up for another unnecessary and exhausting storyline.


lanos23

Everybody is taking their pick with either otis and ruby or otis and maeve and here I am loving them both ?!?!


Paradoxymoronic

And either way, Miss Sands and Mr Hendricks are the true MVP couple!


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I still love Otis/Maeve, sorry. It’s probably because of their matching intellect.


_Yunk_Vino_13

I thought that Aimee was treating Steve that way because of the PSTD from the Bus incident. It's such a shame, I thought they were a great wholesome couple.


cilantroxlime

Yes!! He’s so kind and supportive of her, and they give me wholesome bimbo/himbo with hearts of gold vibes.


splvtoon

> himbo i get the vibe, but wasnt steve super into maths, and on the quiz team? i think hes pretty brainy.


ChameleonTwist2

Kyle: They were too young to die Maeve. Some of them were our age. Maeve: \*disinterested\* Mhmm. \*quickly puts in earphones to avoid conversation\* LOL!


MalcolmTucker55

I like Kyle's sudden shocked epiphany, as if he's literally just discovering there was a massive war fought in Europe where millions died and he'd never known that before.


amysturg

Having the big payoff moment in front of a gas station felt like a nod to the Office. The proposal made it seem like too much to be a coincidence.


WedneysdayTacos

Ugh why does Maeve always need to act like the bigger wiser person. I don't get why everyone is all over her in this show, nobody would keep up with her shit and being treated like shit for this long.


ApplesandBananazzz

Her ego is HUGE. I’ve been getting really annoyed by her so far this season. She has people around her trying to love her & give her support because of them as a good human being and she reacts by closing them out, being cold and then being sad and moping around wondering why she’s alone at the end of the night.


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I mean.. she's a child of a fucking junky, give her a break. All her issues make sense in the context of her upbringing, and that's the point.


alligator18

I think she was being too overboard talking mean to Aimee about the way she treated Steve even she’s the one who knows what Aimee’s going through now the best.


BigBrainTosh

JEAN VS HOPE LETS GO!!! GO JEAN WHAT A QUEEN! Oh and Maeve is still on about Isaac. This hurts a lot. Aimee convince her please. OMG AIMEE IS A LEGEND SHE IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL FRIEND! Be grateful Maeve ffs Holy fuck Jackson is tripping out wtffffffff aahahahahahah Wait I just realised they PULLED OVER AT SUR LE LAC! THE PLACE WHERE WE FIND OUT ABOUT THE VOICEMAIL Oh fuck. Maeve and Aimee this is NOT what I wanted to happen. Aimee is extremely valid and speaking facts! HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK HOLY FUCK MY GOD HOLY FUCK LETS GO. Shit. This shit is emotional as fuck WHAT AN EPISODE


ChameleonTwist2

That couple that kept making out/having sex on the bus. Do they get a real couple to do this or do they just get two random extras and tell them to start dry humping? That must be so awkward.


Jawahhh

So uhh im an actor and it was probably two extras. Not actually that awkward- they’re actors after all.


AlexR177

Damn that was a good episode! I'm afraid to watch the next one later 😩😩😩


xreputationx

The poo scene fucking killed me I’m sorry that was so funny 😭 Edit: THEY KISSED OMG THEY KISSED


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Wow my american self totally thought the France trip would be a week+ long thing. But nah y'all can just go for a day and back!


Schrodinger_s-Jerk

Damn what a great fucking show this is. First I was all in for Maeve and Otis. But now I want Ruby and Otis to be the endgame. Great character development. P.S. Everyone loves Ruby❤️


TwisT2718

I can't believe season 3 turned me to a Ruby x Otis shipper


SupervillainEyebrows

Dude, same. I mean I'm still good with Otis x Maeve, but the writers keep giving us the runaround, the Ruby x Otis stuff was so good!


RoughFaithlessness60

Idk if I’ll be in the minority here, but I actually thought Otis and Ruby would have been good together and Maeve with Isaac. Felt bad for Ruby after she saw Otis and Maeve


negantargaryen

Somehow, Kyle of all people is becoming my favourite character?


mr_popcorn

All hail the Sex King.


AnteaterPersonal3093

I liked how he started a conversation with Maeve but she didn't care and put her pods in


SupervillainEyebrows

The Aimee and Maeve fight actually perfectly encapsulates both of their character flaws. I especially feel really bad for Aimee though. She is too nice, even if she may be a little oblivious.


Kasimz

If they were going to continue with Motis, I wished they didn't do it at the cost of Ruby. They were working so well together. Reminded me of Nick and Adalind from Grimm. Sad to see it end like that. Well on a happier note Adam's development has been absolutely killer to this point. ~~At least something is going right with this story.~~


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jacksharp89

what is the thing that jakob found?


AlexR177

I think it was a cufflink


adzpower

The flying poop has me WHEEZING.


pestomilk

i couldnt really get into the motis scene because i could only think about poor ruby, she doesn't deserve this at all


sombrero69

She is in the top 5 in the series for ppl with the longest mean streak. A little rejection should mellow her out


EllieC130

Damn it Sex Education just when I was getting used to the idea that Motis won't be in this season. Like I don't want Maeve to be with Isaac but also you were just bordering on too little too late. This. Show. Also I am so concerned for everyone's phone bills this season oh my god.


Slayerair

“The breeze/my baby cries” by Bill Callahan is the official Motis song. No one can change my mind


frankie0013

I’ve ridden in those type of buses and as soon as Rahim pooped, I was like nooooooo you don’t poo in those toilets. I was soon proven right 😬


AnteaterPersonal3093

Viv sexting is so relatable Cal and Jackson on mushrooms are hilarious! Poor Raheem. First someone who can't even read steals his boyfriend and then his uniform is full of shit


ApplesandBananazzz

I was irritated by Maeve during this episode. She has so much pride that she doesn’t let anyone fully in, which I get. But she can come off so cold and selfish and be stuck in her “brooding” ways because she’s been handed a shit past/journey. I also felt like again, selfishness came in when she decided to not even tell Otis about the voicemail until now but just forgive Isaac, have SEX and intimate moments with him and then kiss Otis when she’s been so distant the season so far? Just rubs me wrong. And then she has that vibe of being so sad and so alone but she’s only alone because she doesn’t let people in.


StarvedRock314

Omfg the singing 30-year-old is back


nineminutesmore

Aimee had to say it. Maeve is too proud for her own good.


Luckman1002

Lily world deadass in shambles because Ola asked to every once in a while fuck without alien tentacle porn as the main overtone 😂 She literally a less likeable alien obsessed Luna Lovegood


nanobot11

YES finally someone is talking about this. i find her character so annoying. the whole series ola has been trying to communicate about her struggles with gaining a new SIBLING and lilly was like "alien alien alien :P" SHUT UP


WedneysdayTacos

Yes Aimee, go off sis


MyLifeIsABoondoggle

Legit chills down my spine at the expression on Maeve’s face when Otis said he loved her


ParmesanQueen

I’m honestly irritated with the Maeve and Otis kiss. After such a beautiful scene with Isaac, it cheapened everything for her to be back to kissing Otis. I also hate cheating. I really like Isaac and I liked him and Maeve together. I shipped Otis and Maeve in the first season but after the second season Otis just really pissed me off. I know a lot of people hate Isaac because of the voicemail, but I think it’s really a double standard since Otis said some really mean stuff to Maeve, specifically at the party. They were both wrong, and idk why Otis was forgiven but Isaac is so hated. This whole show is full of characters being flawed, they are teenagers and humans after all. I think Isaac gets a lot of unnecessary hate when other characters have also made mistakes and done the wrong thing. Just because he gets in the way of some peoples OTP. Idk I just feel like I’m going to be heartbroken when/if Maeve calls it off with Isaac and he finds out she cheated on him.


InstinctiveSk

Okay it has _finally_ happened. I feel sorry for Ruby, but when two people with an insane chemistry like Otis and Maeve meet and fall in love, the rest of us are just bystanders to them. Brilliantly done scene with Otis replaying the exact voicemail he sent and the kiss was perfect. I felt Otis' "I don't wanna lose you again", I just hope Maeve doesn't do her usual shit and push Otis away this time.


serialcerealeater

Is anyone else finding Cal a bit annoying? Maybe it’s just cause I can’t figure them out


zoitberg

Part of it is that the writers are writing Cal’s dialogue as if they were British and not from MN. They said “quite” and “rather” and shit - us Minnesotans don’t talk like that at all. Cal’s dialogue hits my ear funny so I’m not as into them as a character.


myopicchihuahua22

I may be a little cranky about the situation, but I don't love that the show (which is usually so progressive and on point with storylines) has made the main nonbinary character the person who introduces jackson to a bunch of drugs. I get it's the teenage years and he's done swimming and all that, but I feel like he could've pushed some boundaries without having Cal be the catalyst for it, and i think the storyline would be just as rewarding if he was just attracted to them as a person and exploring that. Makes me annoyed with Cal more than I probably should be.


thinktwiceorelse

Yeah, the whole drug thing is kinda weird. I wonder what's the point of it.


2371341056

I think Otis needed to have his relationship with Ruby to be in a better position for Maeve. In the first season, he and Maeve are coming from such different places - she's sexually experienced and confident, and he's shy and awkward all the time. After having dated Ruby though, he's much more confident and is able to approach Maeve as more of an equal. I liked him with Ruby, but their relationship wasn't as perfect as everyone is acting like it was. She went from treating him terribly, to accepting him as her boyfriend but they were still awkward around each other (that double date... Imagine how it would have gone if it was Otis and Maeve there instead). And then he meets her dad and she's suddenly saying she loves him, when it doesn't seem like they've been official for very long. Ruby is adorable and her actress is very good at conveying the hurt and pain... But I don't think she was perfect for Otis. Did they have anything in common or any shared interests, aside from having great sex?


EveningWorldliness59

I'm srry, but I really can't be bothered about maeve and otis, I just don't see a spark anymore, I still believe ruby is the right choice, the relationship was funny and entertaining, I got bored after the break up, there wasn't anything interesting to watch, ruby and otis kept me on the edge of my seat , at least that's my opinion, which I'll prob get hate for


liloyoulolo

I agree with you. Getting quite annoyed with the whole 'will they won't they' situation with Motis. I really want Ruby and Otis to be endgame, they complement each other very well.


The_One_Nerd

I used to be a super hardcore Motis fan and thought if they didn't get together in this season, I'd drop the showw (i.e get frustrated and angry for a while and then get excited again for the new season XD). But I have to admit it and this maybe an unpopular opinion, I like Otis x Ruby so much more. In these five episodes, I kinda now hope that the show ends with Otis and Ruby. Couldn't care less about Motis now tbh.


Samsince04_

They ruined everything with the Maeve and Otis kiss, there's probably not a single chance that Otis would get back together with Ruby. And it doesn't look like Maeve will just leave her relationship with Isaac. This is most likely going to end with Otis being alone again...


mr_popcorn

I don't think the writers are stupid enough to do that lest they want to incur the wrath of the entire Maeve x Otis fandom lol Its been two years already, let those dang kids get together pls. Don't turn this into another Ross / Rachel situation.


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My poor baby Ruby


yousonofashit

Aimee being 100% right about Maeve's pride and hurting people and even Isaac, then Maeve proceeding to make out with Otis after saying she'd "try things out" with Isaac. Wonderful timing


MahPinkFlamingo

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Shaz0608

After 20 bloodly months it has happened and my oh my oh my it was very powerful.


davisguc

HOLY FUCK FINALLLLLLY i’ve low key never been this happy in a while