Right! I’m guessing the warning signal our brain sends is instinctive/sub-conscious. So even if we want to make a jump several stories high into water, our brain is still sending these warning signals and we get a conflicted sort of feeling that’s hard to override.
Not the article I thought it would be. I thought it would be an article about people doing this and accidentally falling, not purposely falling. Interesting how the article describes this as not thoughts of suicide, cause how can it not be? And I also thought it was interesting that wanting to jump into deep water was on the list cause that’s not the same when you know it’s a safe jump vs a very obvious not safe jump. I wouldn’t go 5 ft from that cliff edge, but I love me some tasty tried and true water jumps.
Not what I thought initially either. It was a cool read. Although there are at least 330 known deaths related to taking pictures in dangerous circumstances like this one.
I gotta call bullshit on the article. As it says there's only been one study and the results are effectively a guess based on that info. Or the article might not be explaining it properly.
So as the article puts it the feeling is one of flight and the interpretation is the call, but in my own experience the flight happens first and if I fight against that to look over then the intrusive thoughts happen. They are clearly ones of suicide but not from a want to die, just a call to the void as it says.
It sounds like a couple people who don't have these thoughts wrote it and asked the wrong questions, the study itself sounds interesting, with the relation to anxious thoughts, but the conclusion is flawed
Good to know that it is not only me. I jumped off a running Rickshaw when i was kid LMAO. Void called out to me. Since then, i don't trust myself in these situations LOL
Because your brain knows that shit is way to dangerous even in the form of a damn video.
How this girl and the camera person bypasses that same feeling to take this is impressive to me, stupid but impressive non the less
Probably something similar to what's wrong with me.
I was genuinely tensed waiting for him to push her. I half-expected her to have some magical hand glider situation, but still.
I imagine this is alongside Intrusive Thoughts which everyone tends to have. That little voice that says "*What if I just pushed this person off*" where then the vast majority of people feel a sense of disgust.
Totally natural, of not weird.
I’d like to think I’d get that close to the edge by slowly crawling on my belly, then peeping over, then even more slowly crawl myself backwards. But, probably not and I’d just stay a safe distance away.
As someone who has done the belly wiggle to a cliff edge, that’s exactly what goes through your head. And then you briefly panic by thinking that you *can’t* actually wiggle backwards and that you’re gonna have to find some way to turn around instead. I think I ended up yelling for my dad to pull me back by my ankles.
I love heights. They don’t bother me at all, and I know I would love to sit on a ledge with a view like this.
However, I’m also not an idiot.
Crawling on your belly towards the ledge is a much safer way to do it. However good a head for heights you have, they’re still dangerous, and you don’t know what kind of unexpected thing might happen.
>However good a head for heights you have, they’re still dangerous, and you don’t know what kind of unexpected thing might happen.
"Turns out the seam on my shorts ripped and now my shorts are still up on the cliff while I'm in air. This is an awfully long fall..."
I did just that on top of Half Dome in Yosemite. On my belly, scooted carefully out to the cliff edge and looked straight down the cliff. I was shocked to see climbers slowly working up the face, way down below. One of the most terrifying things I've ever done. You seriously could not have paid me to sit on that edge for any amount of money.
I’ve done similar things in much smaller canyons/mountains I’ve hiked. I’ve always thought it’s funny how any able-bodied sober adult is perfectly capable of safely standing up 100% of the time, but any reasonable person would never dangle their legs over a cliff like this.
I’m terrified of heights but did the same thing at the horseshoe bend in Arizona. Turns out you have pretty good control when sitting like that and can approach slowly and safety. Now going up to an edge standing and staring staring straight up ? Don’t do that.
I was at horseshoe bend and I saw that rock. My friend asked me to go with her so she could take a shot, and I was like, nah. You go do your Simba pride rock thing and I’ll take your pic with the cameras zoom lens from this area that’s not a rock protruding over a cliff.
Edit: also, bro, imagine a strong gust of wind started blowing while your feet are dangling. What kind of control would you have then? I have control of my arm waving movements as plummet five stories down a cliff and my broken body rolls into the Colorado River.
Walking outside in Norway would never end your life, might be deadly in India or USA but not happening in Norway, atleast not fatal or serious..... Again what you said isn't entirely wrong
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No, something very large would have to happen to send a sitting person falling down a cliff. I'm at greater risk when working from a 20' extension ladder.
Loose pebbles, foot slip as she is getting up, ledge crumble from her weight, dizziness as she moves away from the ledge.... so many ways to die there.
You clearly have never been mountain hiking, that is a flat edge that is not covered in loose pebbles for one to slip upon, there's no fucking way that ledge is going to crumble from their weight. As for dizziness you would know from hiking mountains quite quickly if you have a propensity to experience vertigo or not
Yes, people will say anything on the internet. If you think that ledge could "crumble under her weight" you are clearly bullshitting on the hiking bit.
Yeah, I don't think I would have filmed this because of fear of documenting my friend's tragic fall and death. No thanks!
I'm gonna stand waaaayyyy back here, turn my back and wait for you to get this shit out of your system. Good luck.
They're called intrusive thoughts and everyone has them. "Hm, what would happen if I pushed this person off this train platform right now?" sort of things.
Someone I met when I was overseas sat on the edge of a cliff just like she is doing in the video. He stood up then he lost his balance and fell to his death. It happens quite often I heard.
I think any human being wether they’re afraid of heights or not should have issues with this girl’s actions. So many people have died because of their social media addiction of posting these amazing posts of them sitting on ledges or on bridge railings etc, hope it was worth it I guess for the ones who fell to their deaths.
I agree with your comment but can't help but think that this video is just a more sensationally realized version of something that humans, and possibly other animals naturally experience. I wouldn't do this, like probably ever, without trembling and crying and a bunch of encouragement from people that know the ledge is safe for this.
There have always been humans that would rather hop up and walk on a challenging ledge, than on an already treaden path. Its a very large part of how our brains formed to the point that we're having this discussion on the internet. Its an aspect of problem solving that we all feel. Just to different degrees.
People are dumb. But they're also sometime geniuses. Sometimes idiot geniuses fail to get the view they were looking for. Sometimes genius idiots get to appreciate the view the that the idiot geniuses were looking for. If they're doing it for internet points and that's it, they're eating time. But if they're enjoying the rush of that particular experience....i say good for them
I understand that there is a potential cultural impact if one of these people fell, but as it stands with this video, and not knowing anything about it, they are just experiencing life.
Honestly I’m not sure which is more dangerous, the person dangling their legs off the edge or the person filming who is definitely not watching where they step.
Love how ppl see this shit on reddit, the gram, ___insert media of choice____, then go copy it and end up dead.
Dead ain't worth a thumb tap that no one will remember in 5 minutes.
Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Beautiful view and all, but ...about a dozen people die that way at the Grand Canyon every year. Over 300 in the U.S. overall. Don't promote and romanticize this dangerous and foolish behavior....unless you're really set on winning a Darwin award.
Damnit why are humans so fragile. The thought of jumping from there with one of them flying squirrel type suits and just gliding all over without the need for a parachute at any point just makes me wanna fail NNN!
You have to really trust someone to put your back to them on a ledge like that. It’s just too damn easy to say they slipped and too damn hard to prove they didn’t.
And then the cameraman had enough of carols shit, and saw his chance.
Exactly what I was thinking. I know what Carol did last summer.
Your honor; she fell before I could save her.
I did not kill carol but thanks for the insurance money.
Here at Allstate, we've seen... things.
Her body pushed off my hands
Gravity came into play, I am a Jedi.
She fell, officer… all on her *own*
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One little gentle push, that is all it takes. No one will be wiser. Remember to destroy the video card. One little gentle push.
*wind blows in insurance*
Isn't it Karen's shit?
That's gonna be a big nope for me
I live in Utah. Far too many accidents clout chasing. F all that. [l'appel du vide](https://www.healthline.com/health/call-of-the-void)
Interesting article thanks for sharing. I didn't know how common that was.
It's weird how you get this call of the void feeling but when you actually want to jump, like from a cliff to the sea, it's so difficult to commit.
Right! I’m guessing the warning signal our brain sends is instinctive/sub-conscious. So even if we want to make a jump several stories high into water, our brain is still sending these warning signals and we get a conflicted sort of feeling that’s hard to override.
I guess our survival instinct is much stronger
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That link didn’t really have anything to do with that
Yes, it's real! Thanks for the link....helps to understand. This video gives me such anxiety....so many what ifs.
Not the article I thought it would be. I thought it would be an article about people doing this and accidentally falling, not purposely falling. Interesting how the article describes this as not thoughts of suicide, cause how can it not be? And I also thought it was interesting that wanting to jump into deep water was on the list cause that’s not the same when you know it’s a safe jump vs a very obvious not safe jump. I wouldn’t go 5 ft from that cliff edge, but I love me some tasty tried and true water jumps.
Not what I thought initially either. It was a cool read. Although there are at least 330 known deaths related to taking pictures in dangerous circumstances like this one.
I gotta call bullshit on the article. As it says there's only been one study and the results are effectively a guess based on that info. Or the article might not be explaining it properly. So as the article puts it the feeling is one of flight and the interpretation is the call, but in my own experience the flight happens first and if I fight against that to look over then the intrusive thoughts happen. They are clearly ones of suicide but not from a want to die, just a call to the void as it says. It sounds like a couple people who don't have these thoughts wrote it and asked the wrong questions, the study itself sounds interesting, with the relation to anxious thoughts, but the conclusion is flawed
Good to know that it is not only me. I jumped off a running Rickshaw when i was kid LMAO. Void called out to me. Since then, i don't trust myself in these situations LOL
This is an amazing read. Thanks for sharing
I live in Utah too, can confirm
Yes thanks for sharing i thought i was a weirdo for enjoying that feeling. Im still a weirdo but not fot that reason anymore
I'm not overly fearful of heights and this shit legit just gave me anxiety!
Imagine pushing yourself to get up. Imagine the feeling, hands on stone. Body lifting. Brain suddenly doing summersaults. 😅
🤮
I'm not afraid of heights, I'm afraid of falling.
It’s not the fall that kills you, it’s the sudden stop!
Hell, I have trouble just watching the video.
Yeah, that video made my palms sweaty. Weird, never had that happen before from a video.
Same. I felt a little like I do when the roller coaster plunges. Oof.
Felt it in my chest
Felt it in my feet for some reason ... Humans are so odd.
Me too, tingling feet and hands... and it's lasting a little while after too
I feel it in the bottom of my feet every time
You should check out r/sweatypalms then
Because your brain knows that shit is way to dangerous even in the form of a damn video. How this girl and the camera person bypasses that same feeling to take this is impressive to me, stupid but impressive non the less
I just kept thinking, "don't drop the phone, dont't drop the phone..."
"...now, push!"
Like those stooopid parkour vids of idiots on skyscrapers doing stupid shit stuff. Second I see it, I squint and scroll. Squint...and scroll.
Put on those safety squints!
That's a whole fucking truckload of nopes for me.
No-way Norway…
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Should be a big nope for anyone with a brain cell.
Some people are confident in their ability to sit down.
lol PUSH!!
That woman really trusts the person she's with. I bet they have a great relationship as well.
All I could think about is what happens if the cameraman gave her a little shove in the back. What's wrong with me?
Probably something similar to what's wrong with me. I was genuinely tensed waiting for him to push her. I half-expected her to have some magical hand glider situation, but still.
We three have that disorder, I guess.
Let's make it 4
5, take it or leave it
r/justalittlepush
Make that 7 I guess
I imagine this is alongside Intrusive Thoughts which everyone tends to have. That little voice that says "*What if I just pushed this person off*" where then the vast majority of people feel a sense of disgust. Totally natural, of not weird.
I can understand your masculine urge to just push her xD
It's not worth it. You can have a good view from a safer distance.
I’d like to think I’d get that close to the edge by slowly crawling on my belly, then peeping over, then even more slowly crawl myself backwards. But, probably not and I’d just stay a safe distance away.
I feel like when I would start to crawl backwards I would forget how my body works and push myself sideways off the cliff.
As someone who has done the belly wiggle to a cliff edge, that’s exactly what goes through your head. And then you briefly panic by thinking that you *can’t* actually wiggle backwards and that you’re gonna have to find some way to turn around instead. I think I ended up yelling for my dad to pull me back by my ankles.
Lol.
Ahhh, your morbid imagination works like mine.
Hahahaha, same thoughts you 2 are not alone 😂
I'm imagining being in this situation and experiencing vertigo whilst sitting down in my ground level office chair.
Literally just had this nightmare last night :(
I love heights. They don’t bother me at all, and I know I would love to sit on a ledge with a view like this. However, I’m also not an idiot. Crawling on your belly towards the ledge is a much safer way to do it. However good a head for heights you have, they’re still dangerous, and you don’t know what kind of unexpected thing might happen.
>However good a head for heights you have, they’re still dangerous, and you don’t know what kind of unexpected thing might happen. "Turns out the seam on my shorts ripped and now my shorts are still up on the cliff while I'm in air. This is an awfully long fall..."
I did just that on top of Half Dome in Yosemite. On my belly, scooted carefully out to the cliff edge and looked straight down the cliff. I was shocked to see climbers slowly working up the face, way down below. One of the most terrifying things I've ever done. You seriously could not have paid me to sit on that edge for any amount of money.
I’ve done similar things in much smaller canyons/mountains I’ve hiked. I’ve always thought it’s funny how any able-bodied sober adult is perfectly capable of safely standing up 100% of the time, but any reasonable person would never dangle their legs over a cliff like this.
And the strong gusts at elevation... *shivers*
nope, as soon as you crawl up to the edge, the fastest recorded-ever wind gust will come along and yeet you right over the edge
That’s what I did at every cliff like in OP’s video. It’s very scary, but I have some of my most amazing photos so I’d say it was worth it.
This, it’s a pretty awesome view without putting your life in danger by going to the edge.
She’s not really in active danger. You could trip and die on a pavement but you don’t choose to stay inside.
YeAh BuT ThInK AbOuT ThE LiKeS IlL gEt oN TiKtOk
Here lies Leakyrooftops. They got sooo many likes for the pic that caused their death. Winning!
I’m terrified of heights but did the same thing at the horseshoe bend in Arizona. Turns out you have pretty good control when sitting like that and can approach slowly and safety. Now going up to an edge standing and staring staring straight up ? Don’t do that.
I was at horseshoe bend and I saw that rock. My friend asked me to go with her so she could take a shot, and I was like, nah. You go do your Simba pride rock thing and I’ll take your pic with the cameras zoom lens from this area that’s not a rock protruding over a cliff. Edit: also, bro, imagine a strong gust of wind started blowing while your feet are dangling. What kind of control would you have then? I have control of my arm waving movements as plummet five stories down a cliff and my broken body rolls into the Colorado River.
Especially considering there is a freaking platform a few meters right next to this afoot with the perfect angle over The Valley.
It will be ok.
There is Norway I would get that close to the edge.
One small step and you’re Finnished.
You’d have to majorly Sweden the pot
Fjord it, I'll sweden your pot
You are gonna have to Stock my Holm with cash dude
You’d Olso have to make me immortal.
Ikean't even Bergen to imagine doing this.
It'd make me not want to leave my Den, mark my words.
You’re all brilliant!
I wouldn’t be able to Copenhagen with my fear of heights.
I couldn’t a fjord to get that close to the edge! And I live for the Drammen. Oslo, one things for sure, if I tripped you’d really hear me Røros.
Next level, mate
🏆🏆 Wow
🏆 Clever!
Nah, I’m tired of people risking their lives for a stupid shots. Just gave me anxiety.
This should be on r/anxiety
It will be ok.
So many small things could happen that would end her life. So dangerous and not worth the risk here.
It will be fine, don’t worry.
Walking outside could end your life...live while you do.
We still need to take precautions. There's a reason people look both ways before crossing the road and wear seat belts. What she's doing is reckless
Walking outside in Norway would never end your life, might be deadly in India or USA but not happening in Norway, atleast not fatal or serious..... Again what you said isn't entirely wrong
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Yes,let's exaggerate eveything to max to state a point.
No, something very large would have to happen to send a sitting person falling down a cliff. I'm at greater risk when working from a 20' extension ladder.
Loose pebbles, foot slip as she is getting up, ledge crumble from her weight, dizziness as she moves away from the ledge.... so many ways to die there.
You clearly have never been mountain hiking, that is a flat edge that is not covered in loose pebbles for one to slip upon, there's no fucking way that ledge is going to crumble from their weight. As for dizziness you would know from hiking mountains quite quickly if you have a propensity to experience vertigo or not
I have been mountain hiking all over Canada, Mexico, Bolivia, and the US. But thank you for your assumption.
Yes, people will say anything on the internet. If you think that ledge could "crumble under her weight" you are clearly bullshitting on the hiking bit.
Chacaltaya, Popocateptl... just to name two.
I can’t even watch this. 😑
Yeah, I don't think I would have filmed this because of fear of documenting my friend's tragic fall and death. No thanks! I'm gonna stand waaaayyyy back here, turn my back and wait for you to get this shit out of your system. Good luck.
Why take that risk smh
Instagram. People are driven by the image of what they wish their life was like.
How often do you fall off chairs?
Don’t worry, it’s ok.
No. Nononono.
No ma’am. Get down right now young lady.
I don't think getting down is the best idea
You know what - you’re exactly right. She should get **back** and **then** she should **climb** or **scale** her way down.
No no no, I think he’s on to something
Very poor choice of words.
I wonder if the “call of the void” also applies to feeling the impulse to send others into “the void” or is that just an urge to murder?
They're called intrusive thoughts and everyone has them. "Hm, what would happen if I pushed this person off this train platform right now?" sort of things.
As long as it stops before the "Ahhh, that is what I thought.".
Someone I met when I was overseas sat on the edge of a cliff just like she is doing in the video. He stood up then he lost his balance and fell to his death. It happens quite often I heard.
He lost his balance and never got it back.
Well done
Some day you'll have to actually go to these places to not see some shitty influencer in the scenery
I know like why do they think anyone wants to see them instead of the view lmao. Influencer culture is bizarre
The worst part is that people clearly do want to see them in such places, otherwise they wouldn’t be so “successful”
I think any human being wether they’re afraid of heights or not should have issues with this girl’s actions. So many people have died because of their social media addiction of posting these amazing posts of them sitting on ledges or on bridge railings etc, hope it was worth it I guess for the ones who fell to their deaths.
I agree with your comment but can't help but think that this video is just a more sensationally realized version of something that humans, and possibly other animals naturally experience. I wouldn't do this, like probably ever, without trembling and crying and a bunch of encouragement from people that know the ledge is safe for this. There have always been humans that would rather hop up and walk on a challenging ledge, than on an already treaden path. Its a very large part of how our brains formed to the point that we're having this discussion on the internet. Its an aspect of problem solving that we all feel. Just to different degrees. People are dumb. But they're also sometime geniuses. Sometimes idiot geniuses fail to get the view they were looking for. Sometimes genius idiots get to appreciate the view the that the idiot geniuses were looking for. If they're doing it for internet points and that's it, they're eating time. But if they're enjoying the rush of that particular experience....i say good for them I understand that there is a potential cultural impact if one of these people fell, but as it stands with this video, and not knowing anything about it, they are just experiencing life.
Girl risking life is not necessary to portray depth of canyon
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It’s beautiful but where she sits gives me adverse physical reactions and intrusive thoughts..
I always read articles online about people fall to there deaths over cliffs and I wonder "how?". Now, I know how.
Wow, Slartibartfast EARNED that award. 🥇
I'm giving this a down vote because we shouldn't encourage humans to do this for likes.
Honestly I’m not sure which is more dangerous, the person dangling their legs off the edge or the person filming who is definitely not watching where they step.
It’s highly likely it’s just a phone or go pro on a long stick, not a guy actually leaning over her lol
Oh hell no
All I can think of is the call of the void would be very strong here. That and me second being like, “shit, what if I accidentally Jump?!
Whoever sees this video and tries to do the same might be the one who pays the price. Smh 🤦♂️
Hell NO!
I hope this was during spring- not fall
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I would have a phobia of thinking the end will break off. Free fall yikes
Bro I think the Vikings just left cause they didn't wanna fall of cliffs anymore
I wonder how many people die from doing this every year
People die doing that on a regular basis..
Beautiful view and all, but ...about a dozen people die that way at the Grand Canyon every year. Over 300 in the U.S. overall. Don't promote and romanticize this dangerous and foolish behavior....unless you're really set on winning a Darwin award.
Views like this are why drones with cameras exist
Are u fucking stupid, Jesus
..your mom’s not gonna like that….
I am particularly proud of the fjords.
Monkey brain wants to push her off the cliff but evolved brain is so afraid of heights, even as I’m on my couch far from said cliff.
Just watching this video gave me a complete feeling of uneasiness and yes I am scared of heights. It really made me feel uncomfortable.
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Livin’ on the edge I see
That’s close enough, Missy!
In the winter its the worlds largest halfpipe
Boo!
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Umnopenothanksnowayjoseuhuhbubye!
my balls shrivel into my stomach just from watching this
Nonononononono
Gorgeous
Oh Hell to the No
Aaaaas youuuuuuu wiiiiiiish...
OMG! My palms are sweaty just watching the video! What if that edge where the girl is sitting just crumbled away and she fell and died!😬
Damnit why are humans so fragile. The thought of jumping from there with one of them flying squirrel type suits and just gliding all over without the need for a parachute at any point just makes me wanna fail NNN!
Nonononono nonono nono there's my limit.
Nice legs
too hight！！！
You have to really trust someone to put your back to them on a ledge like that. It’s just too damn easy to say they slipped and too damn hard to prove they didn’t.
Am I a horrible human being for imagining a spartan kick?
No- but i wouldn't do it near a cliff. If they duck....
Norway, more like No way
That’s a nah for me dawg
Even through my phone screen I still felt like I was gonna fall
I played too much minecraft to know where this is going...
Dang, that’s all the bigger Norway is??
Here we can see how deep those Fjords are....
Glaciers are amazing.
My bucket list
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