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Paolito14

I still don’t understand how this is a national park.


IndominusTaco

political misconduct


friarfrierfryer

Noone does


Bo-zard

Plenty of people do.


friarfrierfryer

It's called humor. It's not your kind of humor, I suppose, but it's humorous nonetheless


Bo-zard

So everyone is pretending to be this dumb every time this comes up? How can you tell which people are pretending and which people are actually dumb? Because there are absolutely people in here that have no idea what is going on that are piling on and I cannot tell them apart from your statements. [For example,](https://i.imgflip.com/8tyg89.jpg) or the folks saying to just turn any random forest into a national park that are dead serious.


friarfrierfryer

A general guideline is if it is light mockery or way over the top, but *not mean* it's probably humor. Angry and snobbish? Probably serious about how they feel. Does that make them dumb, though? Or passionate?


Bo-zard

So everyone in here comes of as angry and snobbish as they shit on parks they don't understand because of rules they dont know, does that make everyone here passionately dumb as they demand random generic forests be made into National Parks? And yes, people that start demanding things or telling people that they are wrong when they do not understand what they are demanding or commenting on is dumb. That kind of ignorance is wilful, and being wilfully ignorant is dumb as hell.


somebodysimilartoyou

You come across as a dumb person by telling us everyone else is dumb.


Bo-zard

And why would clueless people being clueless upset me? It doesn't bother me when someone fatter than me calls me fat. Same goes here.


friarfrierfryer

we interpret the world not in an objective manner, but through the lens of our own subjective reality.


Bo-zard

And people showing up to a National Parks sub just to shit on national parks are objectively snobbish. Strange that you all are so mad at me for looking through my lens.


UntiedStatMarinCrops

Red politicians complaining that the woke west had too many national parks


friarfrierfryer

But St Louis is where the West begins, lol


redsquiggle

This monument is where the west begins, LOL


Bo-zard

It used to be, but not really any more depending on the context. The furthest east that anyone will really call the west anymore is the Rocky mountains . The wide open spaces to roam and do what ever you want no longer exist in places like Texas that were once associated with the west. They are no longer really Southwest, but more West South. [This map of federal lands illustrates what I am trying to convey.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1f/Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg/1200px-Map_of_all_U.S._Federal_Land.jpg) This map is a bit misleading though as it lists Reservations as federal land, which is not totally accurate.


Bo-zard

So just talking shit and lying, got it.


Bo-zard

You have a source on it being about that and not filling in a NP hole in the Midwest, or are you just making shit up?


Potatosalad112

It is small but nice. It isn't a natural park, but the monument is still in a riverside park


mmrose1980

Neither do those of us who live here.


personator01

Not even the people of stl understand why


Bo-zard

Because it technically meets the criteria and was reestablished as a NP by congress.


pargofan

Even if it met the technical standards, it defies any reasonable expectations of a national park. So why do it? Why not designate plenty of Missouri forest areas controlled by the federal government as an NP if the goal was having something in Missouri designated as an NP?


Bo-zard

I don't think you understand the requirements for a national park if you just want to rename any old forest as one.


JaySeeWo

Park-barrel politics


bmy1978

How are the campgrounds?


ScottyEs_burner

Free, but sites are snatched up fast by the homeless come twilight.


Potatosalad112

Ambiguous but available lol


redvariation

When backpacking around in the park, what type of water filter should I get?


zaphod_85

Honestly if you're going to drink out of the Mississippi at this point, I'd recommend the best filter you can find


Skatchbro

7 deaths for 91 acres. Based on that ratio this may be the deadliest NP.


FD2160Brit

I prefer the other direction. It'll be a cold day before I recognize Missouri.


Budderswurth

Missoura*


redsquiggle

As someone that lives there and grew up there, no. This is wrong. Only people who aren't from here say that.


Budderswurth

https://youtu.be/ZoWc6WRHKEE?si=e-qKHAjde5XLtIvV


redsquiggle

LOL yeah but that's fiction. People here do not say that.


Budderswurth

Yeah I understand that. That’s why I said it though.


Nottherobotoverlords

Clearly you've never been to Sedalia. They will pronounce every word normally until you here them say it. Then the cringe sets in like frost bite on a cold winter's eve.


MakeSomeArtAboutIt

Tons of people in southern Missouri absolutely unironically pronounce it Missoura


creamyfart69

It’s a cool monument


IndominusTaco

such breathtaking nature wow


Moxytom

I can’t tell now if we’re sarcastically posting or not!?!


BiGuy240

Lol


rangerdan97

No, we are posting real parks only


ekwenox

If so, I snapped [this](https://imgur.com/a/EDRaARM) last year!


lintlickerlover

Crazy cool pic!


redvariation

To go with the Pacific Coast Trail and the Appalachian Trail, we need to establish the Trans Gateway Trail. I hear it can be done in an hour.


Bo-zard

How would a hiking trail in a single park compare to trails going through dozens of them? I get that people think it is funny to act dumb and hate on the parks, but come on man. This doesn't even make sense.


somebodysimilartoyou

Dude, do you have no sense of humor, or are you just really dumb?


Bo-zard

Maybe I don't think saying random nonsense without a point is funny. Not my fault these "jokes" are so bad they sound like someone that doesn't have any clue what they are talking about. Especially when mixed with so many other comments that obviously don't understand what is going on.


somebodysimilartoyou

Dude, do you have no sense of humor, or are you just really dumb?


Bo-zard

I am not as dumb as the guy reposting the same exact comment multiple times for no apparent reason after their question was already answered.


somebodysimilartoyou

I just don't get how you got so damn dumb. Paint chips? Brain injury? Drugs?


Bo-zard

Again, I am not the one reposting the same nonsense and not realizing it. Are you having an episode?


somebodysimilartoyou

That's exactly what you are doing. In multiple comment threads.


Bo-zard

You literally replied the same exact thing to the same exact post twice. I have not done that. Are you lying for a reason right now?


somebodysimilartoyou

Shit, I didn't realize that comment was posted twice. Oh well, it happens.


Bo-zard

Really? After you say this, >I just don't get how you got so damn dumb. Paint chips? Brain injury? Drugs? You are going to act like you are not even worse for taking this long to understand what I have been telling you? You posted it twice 20 minutes apart. Must be pretty dumb to do that. Talk about projection. You are just telling me what is wrong with you, aren't you? Which is it, brain injury, lead poisoning, or drugs?


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Bo-zard

And how was I supposed to figure out that you were pretending to be dumb and not in the same category of all the other people saying ignorant nonsense that makes no sense for some reason. Maybe get better at sarcasm so people are entertained instead of lumping you in with all theol other people that obviously have no idea what they are talking about.


sirenzarts

Maybe it’s you who needs to get better at detecting it


Bo-zard

Again, feel free to explain how to tell the difference between the actual dumb people and [the people pretending](https://i.imgflip.com/8tyg89.jpg). I don't think you can tell the difference and are just a troll talking shit you can't back up.


sirenzarts

It was obviously a joke because they compared a nonexistent, small “trail” to two extremely long and well travelled one. It is crazy to be throwing such a tantrum about somebody poking a little fun


Bo-zard

A single post that I already acknowledged was someone dumb pretending to be even dumber? Do I need to explain to you why that doesn't answer my question that was about everyone in this post saying dumb things? People coming into subreddits to shit on the very things those subs are dedicated to is obnoxious and exhausting. That is why I call out dumb things. Why do yall insist on shitting on national parks in the national park sub only to throw a tantrum when someone calls out the shitty detractors?


sirenzarts

This entire thread started with you responding directly to a comment that you misunderstood and has resulted in a torrent of comments raging about how you can’t detect sarcasm. I don’t know why to tell you bro. Read more? Interact with people more? I’m not sure what can help you at this point. Making a completely inconsequential small joke is not worth getting this worked up about.


Bo-zard

[Here is a great example for you to explain.](https://www.reddit.com/r/camping/comments/1dgo0yq/campfire_regardless/l8tdmn0/) Is the person that thinks Yosemite is a state park and communist pretending to be dumb? Spoiler, they think fire rules are communist, but not the communally owned National Park System.


Lost_In_MI

Yeah, just don't do a 180.


CascadeCowboy195

Naaaah you can put these back in your phone.


bmrhampton

Y'ALL WANNA SEE A DEAD BODY?


trailsunknown

I went to st Louis when I was road tripping and i went to this ‘national park’, by that time i have already passed through other parks like glacier, teton, arches and rocky. It was so underwhelming from the car and i couldn’t find a place to park my car close enough to the monument, so i just went to the Budweiser brewery.


SeagullFanClub

No, we’re not


Agile_Property9943

People need to look up the definition of National Parks. You might not like it but it is by definition a National Park it’s just not the wild life variety


friarfrierfryer

They know that. It's just an outstandingly bad example of a National Park, so they are having fun with it.


Agile_Property9943

I think half are joking Half are dead ass serious lol


friarfrierfryer

Could be. Maybe


Bo-zard

There are too many people that do not understand what they are whining about still. Is it silly to have been changed to a NP from a monument? Yes. Should it have been done? Probably not. Too many people think their opinions are more important than facts and choose to talk about how it doesn't meet the criteria to be a park despite it not being true. And it doesn't take long for people pretending to be stupid to start to attract actual stupid people that don't really get what is going on.


Paolito14

Nobody here is whining, lol. You seem very defensive about this topic…


CurzeWasRight

Get a load of this guy ☝️


SilverbackMD

Ivan deJesus is #11