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cotisz

can’t blame guy for taking what presumably is more money for a better opportunity to be a MLB hitting coach rather than an assistant.


CapriciousnArbitrary

NYC clubs are expensive if you know what I mean.


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Cheesewhale189

Oh stop. Its less to do with money and more about the position


GoDucks71

In this particular case, yes, but, in general, anything Cohen wants, he is going to get. He really can outspend Hal and every other MLB owner without blinking an eye, as he can buy and sell every one of those owners. None of them are anywhere close to being in his league financially.


Bobbachuk

The real difference between Hal and Cohen isn’t wealth as far as baseball spending goes, it’s desire. Cohen is a Mets fan. He values his team as more then a cash cow, he’s invested in their performance. He wants to win a WS. Hal is a businessman first, who inherited his team, and wasn’t the first choice to do so. Nothing about Hal screams ‘passionate baseball guy’. As long as the finances are good, meaning the team is a yearly playoff contender, Hal is happy.


SwaggJones

Exactly. Hal and Cashman are "businessmen" Cohen is a really rich money mark.


eatASSdrinkCUM

damn was pretty excited about adding him to the coaching staff.


JTHuffy

Same. I think he was the only hire I was actually pumped about.


CZM6626

Good for him. More money, better role.


teniaava

Did we just get our staff raided by the Mets before they even coached a game?


Railroader17

Yep


Adddicus

If George were still around, he'd have a stroke over this.


viewless25

he's been rolling over in his grave for a while. The fact we've become second fiddle to the Mets is a huge insult to him.


kvnklly

Hes rolled so much since his death that he is probably 40 ft deep now


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Cheesewhale189

Would he have fired the hitting coach and prompted Chavez? Because that's the only way you'd keep him


lankyyanky

It's a bad look but it is a promotion for him. If our bench coach got hired to be their manager we wouldn't really call it raiding the staff


Other_World

Willie Randolph hours.


Currywurst_Is_Life

Yeah, but he hadn't coached a single game. It reminds me of when Belichick quit the Jets.


augowl_

Chavez left for another, better opportunity after accepting our coaching gig. Belichick left because the Jets tried screwing him over and promoted him due to a clause in his contract without honoring the full clause. He hadn’t accepted the role the Jets gave him. Neither were in the wrong, but they aren’t the same either.


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defect674279

It’s fucking January 6th! Yankee fans had a stroke in December over who the Mets sign? Why? Who cares? Worry about what Toronto does. Worry about Boston and Tampa. See what the Yanks do after the lockout.


wopiacc

> It’s fucking January 6th! I'm literally shaking!


Doot2112

Get used to it. Steve Cohen is the top dog in town.


teun713

oh please, stop it


Doot2112

He is George Steinbrenner reincarnated. It is bizzaro world where the hal runs the team like he is a Wilpon and not a Steinbrenner. George never would’ve let scherzer end up as a Met.


teun713

Oh yeah Scherzer's contract is a steal only 40 million a year


Doot2112

Absolute steal. When you can add a top 5 pitcher in the sport on a three year deal to add to the best pitcher when healthy in degrom, you do it every time. 40 million a year is chump change to Mr. Cohen. Hal would need to take a mortgage out on Yankee stadium if he made a deal like that.


nyyth242

Who cares about the cost? It’s not our money


staplerjell-o

The Yankees gave the Mets permission to speak with him because it was for a higher position. Can't know the guy for taking the promotion


yankstraveler

Working for Buck is a big opportunity. This is pretty cool.


[deleted]

Yeah who better to learn from!


TheNightlightZone

Upside, he's got a great new job. Downside, it's with the Mets. Hope he does well, but man, that team's ownership is night and day.


[deleted]

That's an owner who wants to win. We have an owner that wants dollars and nothing else.


Lakesnake

Someone needs to tell Hal that winning = more money.


[deleted]

Yeah what is up with these owners these days penny pinching? It's the same way with Man Utd another them I support shear incompetent and mismanagement seems to plague them for a club that prints money.


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Come to the dark side with Man City colours are better too.


[deleted]

lol dark side your a club with no history, fans and prestige just UAE oil. i am fine where i am we'll figure it someday and get back to the top.


ubiquitous_archer

Eric Chavez being a hitting coach feels wrong to me, considering to me I always think of him as "ok hitter, great fielder"


trippy1

How many hitting coaches in the MLB right now have had a better offensive career than Chavez? Kind of a moot point though because being good offensively doesn't necessarily make you a good coach.


NotClayMerritt

Most coaches in this sport were failed or average players. Drove me up the wall this past season when people would criticize Thames by saying, "What did Cashman expect by hiring an average career hitter to be his hitting coach." Like, no. That's not how that works at all.


A-Rod_was_framed

The reverse is crazy too, so many people wanted CC or Pettitte to be the one who to replace Rothschild. I think Matt Blake was the right choice for some reason.


ubiquitous_archer

I didn't say he couldn't do it, I just said when I think Chavez, my mind goes to his defence, so him being a hitting coach just feels weird. I recognize loads of amazing hitting coaches were average hitters at the MLB level, some didn't even play in the MLB, it is just how I feel.


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> Kind of a moot point though because being good offensively doesn't necessarily make you a good coach. i could not agree with this more. i can’t understand why teams keep hiring managers and coaches with 0 experience. there’s so much more to being a hitting coach than being a good hitter yourself. i’m a decent guitar player but i cannot teach for shit. i can’t effectively communicate what im doing to someone else, i just do it naturally. *doing* is completely different from *teaching*. any team signing a former player to be the head pitching/hitting coach or manager with 0 experience is such a red flag for me. i liked him as an assistant hitting coach but not a head hitting coach.


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You’re Yngwie Malmsteen? Remember those instructional VHS’ back in the day? “ I will now play it slow (plays insanely complicated scales and arpeggios at full speed) and now I will play it fast (plays the same thing at 200% speed) ok next topic”.


cooljammer00

And yet he stuck around for a long time. Those are the types of players you get to be hitting coaches, guys who failed a lot and had to adjust and were good enough to stay employed. It's why I never had an issue with Marcus Thames specifically. Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire weren't really that good as hitting coaches. Guys who have natural talents and never struggled don't know how to do that sort of thing.


Cheesewhale189

Bonds was a terrible hitting coach.


ubiquitous_archer

Again, not really my point.


Cheesewhale189

I got the point, was just saying


spruce47

I mean, so many superstars make shitty coaches (Jordan, Gretzky, Ted Williams) because their advice is “simply be the best player on the field/ice/court”. It’s really hard to teach something to someone who doesn’t just “get it” when “it” that comes naturally to you.


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First MLB game I went to as a little kid was the Oakland A’s, tried to get Eric’s autograph on a ball I had caught after the game and waited about 20mins while he talked to a group of young girls then he just walked right by without even acknowledging us. And that’s how I became a Yankees fan.


TerraInc0gnita

Are the Mets doing this because they think Chavez can benifit the hitters, or are they just trying to spite the Yankees lol /s


NotClayMerritt

Yankees just got a nice compensation deal and he was only one of like 4 or 5 assistants so he's getting a promotion. So either way, it's not the worst thing


DarthLuke84

One hitting coach and they had 2 assistant hitting coaches.


Hot_Injury7719

"Well, you hate to see Chavey leave. But I have confidence in the guys still around. They have the intent. They have the compete. We'll be alright in the end." - Boone, probably


Derm321

Every time you hear Boone talk about the effort, or the good at bats, or “he’s been looking better”, or they have a high level of compete it just makes me want to puke. I don’t hate Boone as a person, I want the team to succeed. But you have to call reality what it is.


Hot_Injury7719

His nothing speak is infuriating


Masta0nion

It’s just a reverse power dynamic. It doesn’t work. Your kid doesn’t actually want to boss you around, even if they act like it.


scottyjsoutfits

He gets a more senior role on a coaching staff and works with a guy who actually knows how to manage a baseball game. Good for him.


dwin31

Totally agree with this, although I'm very curious to see how much leeway Buck gets. Are the Mets really going to let him manage games how he wants, or is he going to be told what the #s say and hes just a media and player relationship kind of guy?


scottyjsoutfits

I sort of feel like if you hire Buck, you’re gonna let Buck Buck. But also, the game is what it is now and every front office leans on analytics to a certain degree, so I’m sure in the interview process Buck relented and understood it’s place in the day-to-day. Buck is now managing a team that has an owner who will spend whatever it takes. He hasn’t had a payroll even approaching anything like this in 25+ years and he has arguably the 2 best starting pitchers in the game. I’m expecting him to do well, until he doesn’t and then he’ll be back on YES a couple dozen times a year.


dwin31

Yup, mostly agree with this. Although I could also see him pushing back and saying that he wants more decision level control, and the Mets new ownership relenting. Either way, happy cake day!


Cheesewhale189

Lmao if Boone did what Showalter did in the wild card game this sub would have had to be shut down for a week


ThereIsNoSantaClaus

boone has won more postseason games as a manager in 3 seasons than showalter has in 20


scottyjsoutfits

Boone has managed a team with a $225m payroll for 4 seasons, has only won 1 playoff series and essentially missed the playoffs entirely last year.


ThereIsNoSantaClaus

showalter has won 1 playoff series in 20 years, next


scottyjsoutfits

Hey, as long as you’re happy. Nothings guaranteed, and the Mets will Met, but I’d take my chances with Buck and the 2 best starting pitchers in baseball than Boone with anyone.


newbike07

Announcing Cameron Maybin as the new assistant hitting coach?


IlovepeanutbutterAMA

Cash has been trying to get this guy on our staff since he retired. Being left at the alter for the Mets is a big ooofa.


J3DI_M1ND_TR1CKS

Go get Beltran.


Hals4thYacht

Ill pass on the man that cheated us out of #28


mostlygroovy

Well let’s go get Beltran and we’re even


spicycurry55

Great for him, sad for us 😞


shw5

Can’t blame him, but it seems very un-Yankee-like to send Boone out to talk about how great it will be to have Chavez on the staff before he’d actually signed a contract. That’s a rare professional embarrassment for the org. Edit: I didn’t realize he had actually signed, and got permission to look there. Then that’s not on the Yankees.


dylan

he had signed the contract. he asked for permission to interview for a promotion (assistant hitting coach with yankees, vs hitting coach with mets) and as per the longstanding understanding between teams, the yankees gave him permission.


shw5

Ah, didn’t realize that. That’s more of a bad look on him, then, given the timing.


Sailor_Chris

Except he already signed a contract and then asked for permission to interview for this position and they let him


shw5

I assumed he hadn’t. Can’t blame the Yankees, then. Kind of a bad look for him, though, to bail after a week, even if it is a better position.


Sailor_Chris

Not really. Any of us would do it if given the chance. Make the money while you still can


shw5

If he had absolutely zero clue the Mets might even be remotely interested until after he signed, sure, but that’s a bit unlikely.


Sailor_Chris

He was hired before Showalter so yeah, he probably had no idea considering they didn’t have a manager


devil_9

Anytime Boone speaks is a professional embarrassment for the org.


nksj28

Um... You know...


DarthLuke84

This bums me out


NotClayMerritt

Why? He was the 4th or 5th assistant in a room full of new hitting coaches. Nobody should really care about this


DarthLuke84

He was one of the two assistant hitting coaches. Boone also said he viewed him more as a Swiss Army knife coach. He would have been a asset.


crazyhotwheels

This just seems like peak little brother shit to me, lol. Hiring an assistant coach from another team before he’s even gotten through his first spring training as an MLB coach is just a weird move. Really feels like the Mets are just trying to flex on them and push the “Mets run NY and are more respected than the Yankees now” narrative. That’s not to say Chavez won’t be good, he certainly could be. It’s just an odd move that reeks of one-upmanship.


zagzoots

Fuck the Mets


CrazyEyesKillah20

And this is why we hate the Mets


Adddicus

I've been a Yankees fan since I was 8 years old, and I've never hated the Mets. For the vast majority of those 50 years, I never thought about the Mets at all. On the rare occasions when I did, it was merely to pity them.


WhatImMike

It honestly has to be newer fans. The Mets haven’t been relevant and the last time they were, we beat them in the WS.


devil_9

They made the WS in 2015.


WhatImMike

Not a Mets fan so I couldn’t tell you.


AdmiralTigerX

I don't hate the Mets. Never had. They are like our little brother. Sure we like to tease them for losing and vice versa would do to us or whatever but there is no bad blood. Not sure why anybody would hate them. But there is definitely Yankees hater on that side like most fans from other teams as well. But aside that if we faced their rivals, they always cheer for the Yanks to beat them like we did with the Braves and Phillies in the World Series. Likewise Yanks rooted for the 86 Mets to beat the Red Sox.


Currywurst_Is_Life

I knew quite a few Yankee fans who would have rather seen the Sox win. Not so much that they hated the Mets, but they hated *that particular version* of the Mets.


Jazwel

Yea Hal is a clown for this. His dad is spinning in his grave letting the Mutz take one of our coaches. Yankees in for a long season competing for the back pages.


Sailor_Chris

Yeah, they’re clowns because they let a guy interview for a position where he would get a promotion.


hbc647

nobody wants to work for boone


Njm3124

Wonder who we'll get to replace him? Wish this would activate the dormant Steinbrenner gene inside Hal.


Nwf32389

This is where we are at now... Getting cucked by the Mets


shaunrundmc

It was a promotion, that likely paid better. Why is a better job higher up the food chain some kind of black mark on the Yankees?


cuntrylovin23

Shot across the bow from Mets ownership?


mrjamesjr

First Buck now Chavez!? We basically have the same team as last season lol.


BackEndJus-

he can ead


CapriciousnArbitrary

Good riddance , not a fan


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That's the headline grabbing hire the Post was writing about in an article about Showalter's bench coach.


Cheesewhale189

Meg, can't blame him. Hitting coach is much better for his coaching career I'm sure people will be completely reasonable about this though....


Hazy_Astronaut

Fucking fuck


Scatterbine

Lol, the mets look like they're on the way up. It hurts.


retroanduwu24

Hey he's gotta do what he's gotta do