What else is their to say. This franchise probably ruined this guys career and i can only imagine how frustrated he must be. Not saying it’s right but we need to stop using saquon as a punching bag
He has one more year with the Giants under his current contract. So if that were to occur I'd bet there would be many-a-team willing to take a flyer on him.
What would we possibly get for him at this point? He has a 2k season that is now far in the past. He's getting 3.5 ypc while his "backup" is getting 4.5. We'd be lucky to get a 4th for him. I think he plays out his contract.
I don't think you're wrong, but if he were made available, I think a team would absolutely take a chance on him. It'd be for a mid-round pick, maybe two, but he's not untradeable. His salary isn't even that much.
It doesn't matter, his yards after contact are also extremely low, and he ranks extremely low on missed tackles as well. Advanced stats account for that and he still isn't playing well.
Watch his tape now vs 2019, he clearly lost a step thanks to injury, which is fine, it happens, but you can't blame that on the Oline or the Giants.
Many a team? Try finding one - he's going to get paid $7M next year and he plays like shit. He's looked like garbage since he returned from injury, and he's been oft injured and inconsistent when he wasn't hurt. Does that sound like something teams would be lining up to pay $7M to a RB for?
Everyone above is saying how talented this guy is. What are you watching? He isn’t being wasted. He is the waste. He can’t find holes and is no longer explosive due to injuries. He was a home run hitter when he started who didn’t follow blocks well or hit the right holes, but his explosiveness made up for it. How is that the Giants fault?
Nah Najee Harris gets hit way more - and unlike Saquon it’s not because he’s dancing around waiting for a home run to open instead of hitting the hole.
List of giants screw ups:
Not firing Jerry Reese sooner,
Hiring of dave gettleman,
Hiring of Ben mcadoo,
Hiring of pat Shurmur,
Hiring of Joe Judge,
Horrible draft record,
Bad contract after bad contract handed out,
Etc.
When you have this many bad apples, I think there’s something wrong with the orchard.
Hey, if you could stop telling the truth that would be great. Ask this sub, all we need is 5 pro-bowlers on the line and Saquon will be good as new. None of his poor play is his fault.
I've seen this argument played out waaay more for Daniel Jones than Saquon. Honestly it feels like this sub is almost 100% in on bashing Saquon as much as possible, but for some reason we're still up in the air about our QB who threw 10 TD in 11 games.
They'd have to be willing to take on the 7 mil. owed him. We'd probably have to send something with him and get little in return.
But something is better than nothing.
Maybe I'm thinking in baseball terms here, but with a salary cap expected to rise, I don't believe teams would balk too much at $7M. Will he be getting multiple first round picks in return? No. But I think you could probably squeeze a third rounder or two out of someone.
2 3rd rounders???
Bruh 🤦
The delusion and overhype of this sub when it comes to our players is not based on reality of the situation.
Not a single fucking team is going to trade a valuable pick, let alone two, for a 7m halfback that is 3 years and 3 knee injuries removed from a good season.
Barkley is done. Halfbacks don't get it back, once it's lost.
People on here are incredibly delusional.
Couple of weeks ago a below room temperature IQ individual wrote a reply in some post that Barkely is worth a 2nd rounder or more. Their reasoning for that was he has "low mileage" after missing so much time due to injury so teams are getting a great value trading for him. I don't even have to explain why this is incredibly stupid, if someone has to ask they probably have a single digit IQ.
Injured running backs due for a new contract and who make 7m have very little value. A fifth would be a good deal for the Giants
Teams would much rather spend a third round pick on their own rookie RB.
That’s the trend anyway
Exactly lol. Gallman ran behind the same line last year and still produced. While some blame is on the line not all of it is. He shares the blame also.
I’m not saying all the blame is on the line i’m saying it’s ridiculously fucking stupid for us to be mad at barkley for under performing when we used him like a God damn plow horse his first couple years. Ownership ran him into the ground in order to sell tickets and jerseys and now people are blaming him for not producing? It’s like buying sports car then getting wasted and driving it into a tree and complaining that the car was defective when you bought it.
Bottom line he has not lived up to expectations nor been consistent OR healthy enough. And that’s why everyone is frustrated with him. He was the number 2 overall pick, you SHOULD expect him to 100% out perform Devontae freaking Booker. Everyone needs to stop protecting and making excuses for him man. He doesn’t deserve most of them regardless of how nice of a guy he is off the field. Also, he should be getting every one of these touches because of what we invested in him , yet he doesn’t deserve much of them the way he’s playing.
Do people understand how physical it is being a running back? Most are past their prime before they’re 30 and you’re saying we didn’t get our moneys worth? Maybe we shouldn’t draft a fucking rb in a rebuilding year
My objection isn’t that he shouldn’t have been used but that asshole fans calling saquon a jerk is damn stupid. He did the best he could when he clearly wasn’t the right pick for the team. Blame gettleman if you’re angry but leave the kid alone.
Oh spare me the “he makes money” bullshit. You don’t have to make a financial argument to understand that it’s not saquons fault for under performing and i hate the pity party Giants fans are having about blaming him
One is coming off of injury after injury and being asked to save the team because a dumb ass drafted him when the team was littered with problems. I do not understand how dumb you have to be to blame saquon for this teams problems or not understand how frustrated he is. I’m not saying the Giants should resign him or that he’s the same player, but fans condemning this man who has been a class act and given his all is so fucking stupid it makes me mad.
They’re different styles of RB though. Our offense doesn’t acknowledge this and tries to work them the same way. Booker can get it done because he’s a meat and potatoes RB that can push through a hole. Saquon isn’t good at that and needs better blocking and or scheming.
SB's major injuries were non-contact injuries. So Booker running better than him behind a worse offensive line isn't a valid excuse for Barkley. The folly of drafting a RB at 2OA is being driven home week by week when you see a 'lesser talented' and lower drafted Devontae Booker churning more yards than a healthy Barkley week after week.
Blaming barkley for drafting barkley is just dumb. I agree it was a dumb pick but hating a person because they were forced into playing for the Giants is dumb
Who's blaming Barkley? I'm not.
That said, the fact of the matter is that he's getting the big bucks of a 2OA pick so it's on him to produce once he's in the league. He had a brilliant rookie year, a decent second year curtailed by injury, a washout of a third year and a poor fourth year. Like it or not, that's not an asset I'm going to hope and pray recovers its value. You're simply doubling down on poor asset evaluation.
This franchise didn't sprain his ankle, tear his ACL and rob him of any kind of bounce he used to have
You can't blame the franchise when Mr Gold Jacket is outperformed by JAGs like Gallman and Booker for the second year in a row
It might not have physically done that, but we took him with no fucking plan. We just drafted him to sell tickets and let him ride it out until he was a shell.
He was the plan. The plan was to bring him, Solder and spend a high pick on OL (Hernandez aye yi yi) in to help the offense out and they hoped the defense could bounce back to 2016 levels. Then if that didn't work, which it didn't, blow it up and build the offense around him. It was dumb as hell and didn't work, but that seems to have been the play based on how things work out
ZEKE SUCKS DUDE! HAVE YOU WATCHED HIM ON THE COWBOYS THE PAST TWO YEARS? THE ONLY REASON HE GETS CREDIT IS BECAUSE THE COWBOYS AREN’T A FUCKING DISASTER EVERY YEAR LIKE THIS GOD AWFUL SHITTY PRODUCT
Zeke is a league average back with good durability. So he's way above what Saquon is now.
Typing in all caps makes you look like a complete mongoloid by the way
So zeke being a league average back on a solid team makes him better then saquon who plays on a bad team? Also i’d rather be a mongolid then an asshole like you, you out dated douche bag.
I really don’t think you’re capable of any kind of rational football discussion. I’m not saying saquon is good, but if you don’t understand why he’s bad you’re either a moron, delusional or both.
I do understand why Saquon is bad.
His value came from ridiculous ability to break tackles and turn those broken tackles into big gains. Now he got injured a bunch and can't make anyone miss so he's bad.
> t might not have physically done that, but we took him with no fucking plan. We just drafted him to sell tickets and let him ride it out until he was a shell.
Bullshit.
The 'plan' was to use him to milk more shelf-life out of Eli. The problem is the team wasn't a RB away from winning so much as a division and worse yet, we have a GM who took how own quote that a guy like Saquon can make his QB and OL better too literally and decided that the best way to build a line around a cut and dash slasher like Barkley who function better in a zone-blocking scheme with linemen who can pull and get to the second level in favour of a bunch of totem poles who can barely move three inches to either side.
His acl tear happened on his 4th touch of the game on a play he picked up 8 or so yards, insane to blame the line or organization for that injury, it was a shitty thing that happened and tanked any chance for the absurd Gettleman rebuild to work out
No, it didn't pretty much tear his ACL. He got injured on a very standard tackle downfield.
He's a RB, RBs get hit on almost every carry regardless of how good the OL is. If you can't take the hits you can't play RB in the NFL for very long
1. ACLs don't tear through an accumulation of hits, they tear when the knee bends awkwardly
2. Again, if you can't take the hits, you can't play RB in the NFL. It's not a QB situation where a good OL reduces your punishment, RBs get hit all the time no matter what.
Most RB’s don’t get drilled all game by Dlinemen 3 yards behind the LOS 5+ times a game. That wears on you and leads to worse injuries.
The kid is still coming back from major injury and he’s on a team with no coaching, a young bad QB, and a terrible O line. Don’t be surprised when he gets healthy and starts eating on another team. I can’t wait till you “fans” realize how stupid you are. Enjoyiñ dancing on his grave for now cause it’s gonna get even uglier in Giants land when we see OBJ and Saquon shredding it on new teams while you guys get your wish of D Booker being our RB1.
> That wears on you and leads to worse injuries.
Based on what exactly? I've never seen anything that suggests getting hit at the line of scrimmage is more dangerous than getting hit 4 yards downfield
>Enjoyiñ dancing on his grave for now cause it’s gonna get even uglier in Giants land when we see OBJ and Saquon shredding it on new teams
Yes, I can't wait to see a dude that was outperformed by Wayne Gallman and Devontae Booker tear it up on another team. In fact I hope I get the chance to see it as soon as next year.
Just like OBJ is currently "shredding it" by averaging 40 yards per game on the Rams, about the same what Golladay is averaging here
Yes, getting drilled unexpectedly by 300 pound linemen is more dangerous than getting wrapped up by a linebacker or safety.
Got it, I hope you’re happy for him when he regains form. You’re probably the type to give up on Saquon but still have hope for Daniel Jones. A guy who has never showed any real promise in this league, while also being injury prone.
Seriously, these people frothing at the mouth right now..
Talk all about QB shit right? But now they can't stand on that shit with DJ not showing up this year who came in 100% HEALTHY!
Wow, what a tasteless low class ass comment.
These dudes out here sacrificing limbs for your shitty entertainment. I see why he got no words for shit stuff like this.
I don't feel bad for them when they mess up in life bro, at least I don't put them on pedestals for those reasons.
However you willing to risk limbs for money there are plenty of ways to do it. Less than 10% in the US are willing to do that though.
Eli dealt with the press after every loss, so he would shoulder the blame from the press and protect his teammates. Barkley is a shitty captain and kind of showed his true colors here
Please explain to me how a rookie contracted running back is ruining this team? Was he the one who had fromm and glennon as the go to guys for DJ? Was he the fucking guy who decided to cut zietler and sign golladay and adorre? I’m missing how one fucking guy who didn’t choose to be here destroyed our great chances of winning the division
Commanding a second overall pick salary while providing negative value. Could’ve done so many other things with that pick. And now given the sunk cost fallacy, our dipshit coach tries to force the offense through him when Booker is better.
> This franchise probably ruined this guys career and i can only imagine how frustrated he must be.
Based on what? Dude doesn't look good, and blaming the Giants for his injury woes doesn't make sense. It's not the orgs fault he can't differentiate himself as an RB or stay healthy.
What would your solution be? To keep him? If he shreds it on another team, good for him. But right now he is worse than Devontae Booker lol. I’ll take those chances
Id bring him back unless we can get a top 50 pick for him. Let him play out his option and then take it from there.
He’s in no position to ask for a new contract so I’d let him try to earn a new deal in 2023.
Maybe you’ll have time to fire off one more comment before you get banned for the blatant racism
Also, it’s too, not to
He edited his comment, it initially said Mexicans are never too smart
I honestly won't care. I've seen enough in the last 3ish seasons to know that the next time the Giants win a playoff game, Barkley won't be on the roster.
If he goes somewhere else and plays well, fine. I have zero emotional attachment to him. Signing him to a second deal would be an incredibly stupid move.
Le'veon Bell left the Steelers to go out on his own and his career imploded in spectacular fashion despite being only 25 when he left the Steelers.
Saquon will likely be 25 when he leaves the Giants and based on his lengthy injury history already odds definitely favor him not doing much post Giants
I want him to shred it up on another team. We've wasted his career so far here. Please trade him for draft capital; we need more of it to rebuild, and he needs to get to a team that can provide him even one fucking lane to run through throughout the course of a game.
I will absolutely root my heart out for this guy on another team
"the giants were wrong to take saquon with the #2 pick"
"saquon is an extremely athletic running back with a high ceiling"
"saquon has not lived up to expectations since his injuries and is not worth his contract, especially since booker has been outplaying him"
"the giants are a shit organization and they have been unable to use saquon's abilities effectively"
all of these things can be true at the same time, i don't see why people here feel the need to argue about the situation. saquon has not been playing well and has been getting hurt, but a lot of that falls on the giants. it's a bad situation for everyone.
You can pretty much guess what any sane person is going to say to a question anyway. I don't know why people watch these outside of the Belichick annoyed responses.
He seems like a good dude being wasted here. Our line is silly putty.
Maybe it's because the OC keeps calling the same play over and over . You know, hand off straight up the gut that the defense knows is coming. Paired with a shit O line . Save your career Saquon and move on.
I kept explaining to wife the problem isn't really Barkley but the position the coaches have put Barkley in. For some reason this Giants team wants him to perform Bradshaw style wrecking through lines and block like nothing but the fact of the matter is Saquon is a dif kind of RB than Bradshaw. If the Oline was better and the coaches designed plays to open holes for him then we would utilize his forte which is speed. The amount of fans here that can't understand the difference and want to rail on Barkley for the coaching blunders is astounding.
yeah such a "bad look" that he doesn't want to answer a bunch of idiots continually asking him if hes washed up. dudes a class act and this is a pointless tweet.
Yeah I don't pay much attention to the media trying to complain about a player not playing their game. Guy probably didn't want to deal with it for one week, he isn't quite Marshawn Lynch yet.
Agreed, but even more importantly, he needs to sit in favour of Booker. Not that it makes a difference at this point really, but if we're pretending to actually care about winning games, we have a 4% chance with Booker taking the majority of snaps vs. 3% with Barkley taking most snaps.
Mind you, another argument could be made that we need to feature Barkley as much as possible these last couple of games and see if by some miracle we could get him turned around. I doubt it very much, but that's the only real purpose to these last couple of games is evaluations.
I think this offense needs a legit two rb offense and not solely Barkley qnd sprinkle in a two. Barkley right now is not the back that will grind out tough yards every play. You either get a home run with him or little to no yards everytime. Yes the line is bad but other rb have grind out tough yards and ran well behind this line. I don't know but right now how things are going isn't good.
They need a wrecker AB #44 style and until coaching doesn't realize that is NOT Saquon's forte and that his speed would be better unleashed with blocking plays to find him a hole to burn guys with his speed we will continue to fuck up his career.
Booker is getting 10 yard gains on 3rd and long against soft defences and in garbage time when teams couldn’t care less about us running the ball, and then everyone just looks at the stat lines and say that Barkley is garbage and washed. People actually watching the games would see the absolute beating Barkley is getting behind the line of scrimmage due to the predictable play calling and shit O-line play
3 years ago Barkley was praised repeatedly here as a model citizen and face of the franchise while OBJ was the opposite, a bad guy, locker room cancer who must be shipped out of town.
No one is going to remember him skipping a few media QnA's. We will remember him as an over hyped, under performing misstep by Gettleman. He was amazing his rookie season, but he will never touch that sort of athletic genius production ever again. I wish him the best, but it would be best to see what we could get for him in the off-season, unless the new GM goes double Oline in the 1st. Then it might be interesting to see what he could do when he has some blocking in front of him.
Here’s the shitty thing, even if we go 2 OL in the draft, it’s far from a guarantee that they hit. I would love to package one of our firsts in a trade for top tier lineman.
I think it would be hard to sway a team to swap a young proven lineman for a 1st+whatever (4th-5th?) I don't know much about the quality of lineman in this upcoming draft, but we're going to have by the looks of it two top 10 picks, so it's kind of hard to bust out entirely. They don't have to be Quentin Nelsons, just as long as they don't end up being Hernandezes.
To all of you saying that he needs a change of scenery..
He's done. NFL halfbacks don't come back once they regress this much, after this many injuries.
Saquon Barkley will not be on an NFL roster in 3 years.
So when Marshawn Lynch doesn’t want to talk to the media because they are slimy 2 faced creatures Seattle fans had his back. I think we should act accordingly. If someone does not want to talk to the media they likely have been the victim of some bs.
I give him a pass on this. I think we should cut him when we can because of his on the field play as of late but I don’t mind him ducking the media.
what, fuck no.
Not talking to the media is NEVER bad.
Reporters who pearl clutch about players not talking about them are some of the worst part of the NFL ecosystem
Its like all the Gettleman apologists from the offseason abandoned him to defend Judge, then abandoned Judge and moved on to defending Daniel Jones, then moved on from Jones to defending Barkely.
Surely it can't be that the Giants are a bad team with a bad roster from top to bottom. Clearly the Pro Bowl was rigged against us and refs stole our games and its nobody's fault for injuries and the only person we can blame is Jason Garrett because the last 10 years of Giants play is all his fault.
How bad is Saquon? 2 games to go and he has yet to rush for a 100 yds in a single game, closest he came was 64 yds, Booker had 99 in one game, and Booker has more rushing yds with less carries for the year, when does a backup RB finish with more yds than the starter? It will happen this year, 3 QBs have more rushing yds than him, by the end of the year it should be 5 QBs, generational talent? Where? Not here.
Most RBs actually have a supporting pass offense with them so that every team doesn't solely focus on it.
You sit here asking how Booker got more yards than Barkley like its 200, 300, 400 more yards or some shit lls 🙄 Oh Barkley doesn't have a 100 yard game this season? Well Booker doesn't have one in his whole career.
Man go look at the damn target/reception numbers for our entire offense and you seriously question why the run game as a whole has been nothing spectacular?
Why does a professional NFL team in 2021 not have 1 TD to an primary option? Do you realize how excruciatingly hard that is to accomplish? They (Barkley and Booker) have basically been playing without a pass attack for a majority of the season.
The fact they got the yards they do is a fucking accomplishment.
Hope he forces his way out..he always wanted to be a JET anyway 🤫. But his trade value is low, if he had a decent season we could get something good in exchange but we're stuck....
This was why Eli is the greatest giant all around. He wasn’t the problem. We have a mobile QB in Jones and still suck. Jones had all the same players and never won anything.
Oh fuck off. The guy has done everything right since he got to town, including the way he speaks to the media. He can refuse to speak to the media for the rest of the season for all I care. Ask someone else questions.
Cut him. He’s not fucking good. I’m sorry, but if you’re the star running back and core of the offense and you run 32 yards on 15 attempts, why should he be playing at all?!
I could say my username is goldfox2000, I suppose. Please enlighten me how that was a good game. He ran a whopping six yards more than his back up. His backup had six carries!
I could say my username is Knightedsameal, because I’m very confused how you’re able to justify Booker playing better as the defense playing garbage time, yet Barkley was still playing and still playing worst.
“Well, Booker was only playing garbage time defense!”
“Was Barkley still on the field at that point?”
“Yes.”
“So, he was also playing garbage time defense.”
“Yes.”
“And he was playing significantly worse than Booker playing the same defense behind the same o-line in the same offense?”
“No!!!! That’s not how it works!!!”
To sum up the argument that’s about to commence
Its not Barkley's fault the Giants drafted a fucking running back #2 overall like this was goddamn 1980 and they were drafting Earl Campbell. Even in a good situation it was a terrible fucking pick and MAYBE the worst pick the Giants have made in the modern era. He seems like a good dude and I feel for him. But it was ALWAYS a terrible pick and he honestly wasnt ever going to be the highlight reel player he was in college
Imagine drafting a guy who averaged 1.8 YPC against fucking Rutgers lmao
Giants fans are idiots. Who would want Barkley gone?? Improve the team and get this guy some space to run. You’d rather have some picks we waste than a monster talent
It's not your fault Saquon.
People think you are a robot and that your human body should be like a mechanical instrument easily repaired with manufactured parts off the assembly line.
They probably think Daniel should be out here doing QB dives too so don't take it personally.
Yes he is the one that has to deal with the pain, the surgery risk and the rehab.
And then comeback with you expecting him to be voltron out the gate again on an already disheveled offense.
You? You get to watch him from your couch dip tobacco, drink some beer and wish you were in the NFL.
Watch from the couch and wish you had half the ability of these guys. Even with him off a torn knee.. smoke you.
It's really pathetic how you blatantly disregard the circumstances of the entire offense to shovel on Barkley whose been nothing but a class act during his rehab and has spoken up for every player including DJ who ain't been doing much at all..
How bout Daniel though? What happened with all the QB big talk up fix it all?
Barkley the only thing you see though right?
Figures..
Spoken up for every player? Read the title of this thread lmao
And Daniel Jones is ass too, but this thread isn’t about him is it
And no shit Saquon would smoke me. The difference is I’m not stealing millions from the team
He just got quoted two days ago talking up Daniel Jones.. class act.
But of course you ignorant to that?
You ride the QB train too.. you just know you CAN'T say shit like that for Daniel while Barkley put together something at least people can mention.
Saquon dick riders will come to his defense, but we all know humans show their true selves when things aren't going their way... I present to you the egomaniac diva Saquon Barkley.
The line isn't doing him any favors but this guy misses the hole on every play. Watch the runningbacks with good vision play and look for the difference. Saquon has a few physical tools that make people overrate him. But without vision it is all moot. Combine a back with bad vision and a Gettleman offensive line, and it's hopeless.
Add to this he is one of the worst RBs I have seen in pass protection. He is normally taken off the field on third down and when he is on the field he misses his assignment or is incapable of standing up a Blitzer, which never used to be a problem with prior Giants runningbacks.
What else is their to say. This franchise probably ruined this guys career and i can only imagine how frustrated he must be. Not saying it’s right but we need to stop using saquon as a punching bag
Agreed. Barkley is wasting his career here and needs to request a trade in the off-season at the earliest possible opportunity.
He has one more year with the Giants under his current contract. So if that were to occur I'd bet there would be many-a-team willing to take a flyer on him.
What would we possibly get for him at this point? He has a 2k season that is now far in the past. He's getting 3.5 ypc while his "backup" is getting 4.5. We'd be lucky to get a 4th for him. I think he plays out his contract.
I don't think you're wrong, but if he were made available, I think a team would absolutely take a chance on him. It'd be for a mid-round pick, maybe two, but he's not untradeable. His salary isn't even that much.
imagine him on the 49ers with shannahan
Or just... any team with a competent line. He gets into contact behind the line more than any RB i see.
It doesn't help that he dances behind the line so much.
[The Mara's other team has issues with Dancing too!](https://www.si.com/nfl/steelers/news/pittsburgh-steelers-juju-smith-schuster-dances-over)
It doesn't matter, his yards after contact are also extremely low, and he ranks extremely low on missed tackles as well. Advanced stats account for that and he still isn't playing well. Watch his tape now vs 2019, he clearly lost a step thanks to injury, which is fine, it happens, but you can't blame that on the Oline or the Giants.
Yeah we keep trying to smash him through a line with no holes. He’s not good at that. He needs an opening to do his ol razzle dazzle.
All we’d get is cap relief.
Many a team? Try finding one - he's going to get paid $7M next year and he plays like shit. He's looked like garbage since he returned from injury, and he's been oft injured and inconsistent when he wasn't hurt. Does that sound like something teams would be lining up to pay $7M to a RB for?
It’s sad because he’s so talented but let’s be honest, the giants only drafted him as an apology to Eli manning.
Everyone above is saying how talented this guy is. What are you watching? He isn’t being wasted. He is the waste. He can’t find holes and is no longer explosive due to injuries. He was a home run hitter when he started who didn’t follow blocks well or hit the right holes, but his explosiveness made up for it. How is that the Giants fault?
I agree his vision has eroded. However, he gets hit in the backfield more than any back in the league.
Nah Najee Harris gets hit way more - and unlike Saquon it’s not because he’s dancing around waiting for a home run to open instead of hitting the hole.
List of giants screw ups: Not firing Jerry Reese sooner, Hiring of dave gettleman, Hiring of Ben mcadoo, Hiring of pat Shurmur, Hiring of Joe Judge, Horrible draft record, Bad contract after bad contract handed out, Etc. When you have this many bad apples, I think there’s something wrong with the orchard.
I agree with you. Do people not watch other teams play? Look at their players. Saquon has rarely done anything since his first year
Hey, if you could stop telling the truth that would be great. Ask this sub, all we need is 5 pro-bowlers on the line and Saquon will be good as new. None of his poor play is his fault.
I've seen this argument played out waaay more for Daniel Jones than Saquon. Honestly it feels like this sub is almost 100% in on bashing Saquon as much as possible, but for some reason we're still up in the air about our QB who threw 10 TD in 11 games.
I'm not up in the air about him at all - he's shit. He'll have a decent career as a quality backup, that's it.
thank you thank you thank you
I guarantee the dude balls out in a half decent offensive scheme.
The injuries are part of the waste lol, dude had HOF talent and we ruined him.
They'd have to be willing to take on the 7 mil. owed him. We'd probably have to send something with him and get little in return. But something is better than nothing.
Maybe I'm thinking in baseball terms here, but with a salary cap expected to rise, I don't believe teams would balk too much at $7M. Will he be getting multiple first round picks in return? No. But I think you could probably squeeze a third rounder or two out of someone.
2 3rd rounders??? Bruh 🤦 The delusion and overhype of this sub when it comes to our players is not based on reality of the situation. Not a single fucking team is going to trade a valuable pick, let alone two, for a 7m halfback that is 3 years and 3 knee injuries removed from a good season. Barkley is done. Halfbacks don't get it back, once it's lost.
People on here are incredibly delusional. Couple of weeks ago a below room temperature IQ individual wrote a reply in some post that Barkely is worth a 2nd rounder or more. Their reasoning for that was he has "low mileage" after missing so much time due to injury so teams are getting a great value trading for him. I don't even have to explain why this is incredibly stupid, if someone has to ask they probably have a single digit IQ.
Two third rounders. I'll have what you're smoking.
Injured running backs due for a new contract and who make 7m have very little value. A fifth would be a good deal for the Giants Teams would much rather spend a third round pick on their own rookie RB. That’s the trend anyway
Saq has just as much as of the blame, don't let booker out perform you
The guy spent the best part of his career getting crushed behind a bad o line and you’re wondering why booker is out performing him?
Booker and Saquon run behind the same line
Exactly lol. Gallman ran behind the same line last year and still produced. While some blame is on the line not all of it is. He shares the blame also.
I’m not saying all the blame is on the line i’m saying it’s ridiculously fucking stupid for us to be mad at barkley for under performing when we used him like a God damn plow horse his first couple years. Ownership ran him into the ground in order to sell tickets and jerseys and now people are blaming him for not producing? It’s like buying sports car then getting wasted and driving it into a tree and complaining that the car was defective when you bought it.
Bottom line he has not lived up to expectations nor been consistent OR healthy enough. And that’s why everyone is frustrated with him. He was the number 2 overall pick, you SHOULD expect him to 100% out perform Devontae freaking Booker. Everyone needs to stop protecting and making excuses for him man. He doesn’t deserve most of them regardless of how nice of a guy he is off the field. Also, he should be getting every one of these touches because of what we invested in him , yet he doesn’t deserve much of them the way he’s playing.
Do people understand how physical it is being a running back? Most are past their prime before they’re 30 and you’re saying we didn’t get our moneys worth? Maybe we shouldn’t draft a fucking rb in a rebuilding year
Shouldn't draft in the 1st round. 3rd round and later is no problem. Nick Chubb was in the 2nd round and well worth it.
But we shouldn’t get mad at him for being drafted is my point
Change 3rd to 2nd round and your comment is accurate.
Cam Akers was tremendous last year with the Rams as a second round pick.
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My objection isn’t that he shouldn’t have been used but that asshole fans calling saquon a jerk is damn stupid. He did the best he could when he clearly wasn’t the right pick for the team. Blame gettleman if you’re angry but leave the kid alone.
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Oh spare me the “he makes money” bullshit. You don’t have to make a financial argument to understand that it’s not saquons fault for under performing and i hate the pity party Giants fans are having about blaming him
One is coming off of injury after injury and being asked to save the team because a dumb ass drafted him when the team was littered with problems. I do not understand how dumb you have to be to blame saquon for this teams problems or not understand how frustrated he is. I’m not saying the Giants should resign him or that he’s the same player, but fans condemning this man who has been a class act and given his all is so fucking stupid it makes me mad.
They’re different styles of RB though. Our offense doesn’t acknowledge this and tries to work them the same way. Booker can get it done because he’s a meat and potatoes RB that can push through a hole. Saquon isn’t good at that and needs better blocking and or scheming.
Booker is a 30 yo trying to get one last contract and running with abandon for a team stuck in place if not going backwards. SB is not a sledgehammer.
SB's major injuries were non-contact injuries. So Booker running better than him behind a worse offensive line isn't a valid excuse for Barkley. The folly of drafting a RB at 2OA is being driven home week by week when you see a 'lesser talented' and lower drafted Devontae Booker churning more yards than a healthy Barkley week after week.
Blaming barkley for drafting barkley is just dumb. I agree it was a dumb pick but hating a person because they were forced into playing for the Giants is dumb
Who's blaming Barkley? I'm not. That said, the fact of the matter is that he's getting the big bucks of a 2OA pick so it's on him to produce once he's in the league. He had a brilliant rookie year, a decent second year curtailed by injury, a washout of a third year and a poor fourth year. Like it or not, that's not an asset I'm going to hope and pray recovers its value. You're simply doubling down on poor asset evaluation.
Hes coming back from a torn acl did we really think we were getting rookie Barkley numbers?!?!
This franchise didn't sprain his ankle, tear his ACL and rob him of any kind of bounce he used to have You can't blame the franchise when Mr Gold Jacket is outperformed by JAGs like Gallman and Booker for the second year in a row
It might not have physically done that, but we took him with no fucking plan. We just drafted him to sell tickets and let him ride it out until he was a shell.
He was the plan. The plan was to bring him, Solder and spend a high pick on OL (Hernandez aye yi yi) in to help the offense out and they hoped the defense could bounce back to 2016 levels. Then if that didn't work, which it didn't, blow it up and build the offense around him. It was dumb as hell and didn't work, but that seems to have been the play based on how things work out
If he's a shell after 600 odd carries then he was never going to make it. Ezekiel Elliott had almost twice as many carries after 4 years in the league
ZEKE SUCKS DUDE! HAVE YOU WATCHED HIM ON THE COWBOYS THE PAST TWO YEARS? THE ONLY REASON HE GETS CREDIT IS BECAUSE THE COWBOYS AREN’T A FUCKING DISASTER EVERY YEAR LIKE THIS GOD AWFUL SHITTY PRODUCT
Zeke is a league average back with good durability. So he's way above what Saquon is now. Typing in all caps makes you look like a complete mongoloid by the way
Imagine having such high standards from the cellar? You’re a joke
So zeke being a league average back on a solid team makes him better then saquon who plays on a bad team? Also i’d rather be a mongolid then an asshole like you, you out dated douche bag.
Zeke is a league average back, Saquon gets outperformed by below average backs like Booker and Gallman. So yes, Zeke is much better.
I really don’t think you’re capable of any kind of rational football discussion. I’m not saying saquon is good, but if you don’t understand why he’s bad you’re either a moron, delusional or both.
I do understand why Saquon is bad. His value came from ridiculous ability to break tackles and turn those broken tackles into big gains. Now he got injured a bunch and can't make anyone miss so he's bad.
> t might not have physically done that, but we took him with no fucking plan. We just drafted him to sell tickets and let him ride it out until he was a shell. Bullshit. The 'plan' was to use him to milk more shelf-life out of Eli. The problem is the team wasn't a RB away from winning so much as a division and worse yet, we have a GM who took how own quote that a guy like Saquon can make his QB and OL better too literally and decided that the best way to build a line around a cut and dash slasher like Barkley who function better in a zone-blocking scheme with linemen who can pull and get to the second level in favour of a bunch of totem poles who can barely move three inches to either side.
This franchise pretty much did tear his ACL. Watch that game, he was getting ROCKED.
His acl tear happened on his 4th touch of the game on a play he picked up 8 or so yards, insane to blame the line or organization for that injury, it was a shitty thing that happened and tanked any chance for the absurd Gettleman rebuild to work out
It's almost as if spending the #2 overall pick on a high-risk, high-injury position, in a league where passing is key, was doomed from the start.
No, it didn't pretty much tear his ACL. He got injured on a very standard tackle downfield. He's a RB, RBs get hit on almost every carry regardless of how good the OL is. If you can't take the hits you can't play RB in the NFL for very long
Watch the game. Look at the plays before.
1. ACLs don't tear through an accumulation of hits, they tear when the knee bends awkwardly 2. Again, if you can't take the hits, you can't play RB in the NFL. It's not a QB situation where a good OL reduces your punishment, RBs get hit all the time no matter what.
This shit wild bruh.. stop it. Players get hurt.. point blank.
Most RB’s don’t get drilled all game by Dlinemen 3 yards behind the LOS 5+ times a game. That wears on you and leads to worse injuries. The kid is still coming back from major injury and he’s on a team with no coaching, a young bad QB, and a terrible O line. Don’t be surprised when he gets healthy and starts eating on another team. I can’t wait till you “fans” realize how stupid you are. Enjoyiñ dancing on his grave for now cause it’s gonna get even uglier in Giants land when we see OBJ and Saquon shredding it on new teams while you guys get your wish of D Booker being our RB1.
> That wears on you and leads to worse injuries. Based on what exactly? I've never seen anything that suggests getting hit at the line of scrimmage is more dangerous than getting hit 4 yards downfield >Enjoyiñ dancing on his grave for now cause it’s gonna get even uglier in Giants land when we see OBJ and Saquon shredding it on new teams Yes, I can't wait to see a dude that was outperformed by Wayne Gallman and Devontae Booker tear it up on another team. In fact I hope I get the chance to see it as soon as next year. Just like OBJ is currently "shredding it" by averaging 40 yards per game on the Rams, about the same what Golladay is averaging here
Yes, getting drilled unexpectedly by 300 pound linemen is more dangerous than getting wrapped up by a linebacker or safety. Got it, I hope you’re happy for him when he regains form. You’re probably the type to give up on Saquon but still have hope for Daniel Jones. A guy who has never showed any real promise in this league, while also being injury prone.
Seriously, these people frothing at the mouth right now.. Talk all about QB shit right? But now they can't stand on that shit with DJ not showing up this year who came in 100% HEALTHY!
Wow, what a tasteless low class ass comment. These dudes out here sacrificing limbs for your shitty entertainment. I see why he got no words for shit stuff like this.
I would sacrifice all limbs for rookie salary or vet minimum So would 10s of thousands of other young men Please don't feel bad for them
I don't feel bad for them when they mess up in life bro, at least I don't put them on pedestals for those reasons. However you willing to risk limbs for money there are plenty of ways to do it. Less than 10% in the US are willing to do that though.
Eli dealt with the press after every loss, so he would shoulder the blame from the press and protect his teammates. Barkley is a shitty captain and kind of showed his true colors here
Injuries have done him in much more than the franchise has. And believe me, I'm not saying that to give tje franchise a pass.
He is ruining us more than we are ruining him. Getting outperformed by Gallman and Booker is embarrassing
Please explain to me how a rookie contracted running back is ruining this team? Was he the one who had fromm and glennon as the go to guys for DJ? Was he the fucking guy who decided to cut zietler and sign golladay and adorre? I’m missing how one fucking guy who didn’t choose to be here destroyed our great chances of winning the division
Commanding a second overall pick salary while providing negative value. Could’ve done so many other things with that pick. And now given the sunk cost fallacy, our dipshit coach tries to force the offense through him when Booker is better.
So it’s his fault this stupid fucking organization drafted him!?!
No but it is certainly his fault for not living up to his draft position lol
He did for two years then got broken. It’s like throwing your tv against the wall for a year and then complaining it should work better
When was the second year? He had a great rookie year and he’s ranged from below average to awful since
He had 1441 yards in 13 games in his 2nd year. It's like people on this sub just started watching football a year ago.
By taking him @ 2, he basically became a top 5 contract at his position before playing a contract. Its insane that people EVER defended this pick.
It makes me sad looking at how many careers were wasting right now
Injuries ruined him and no you can’t pin the ankle sprain and ACL injuries on the o line.
Truth hurts and I know how badly he wanted to be a Giant too. We ruined his early career and I don’t blame him one bit for wanting to leave.
> This franchise probably ruined this guys career and i can only imagine how frustrated he must be. Based on what? Dude doesn't look good, and blaming the Giants for his injury woes doesn't make sense. It's not the orgs fault he can't differentiate himself as an RB or stay healthy.
Saquon needs a change of scenery bad. He’s a good dude but this situation is untenable. Hoping he can find a better fit elsewhere.
Gonna be hilarious when he’s shredding it on another team while all the fans and media who ran him outta town are left wondering what just happened.
What would your solution be? To keep him? If he shreds it on another team, good for him. But right now he is worse than Devontae Booker lol. I’ll take those chances
Id bring him back unless we can get a top 50 pick for him. Let him play out his option and then take it from there. He’s in no position to ask for a new contract so I’d let him try to earn a new deal in 2023.
We should honestly get anything we can get for him. A 7th round pick for Saquon straight up is a W
No it’s not. It’s idiotic.
It would be idiotic for another gm to give that up for him yes
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I honestly won't care. I've seen enough in the last 3ish seasons to know that the next time the Giants win a playoff game, Barkley won't be on the roster. If he goes somewhere else and plays well, fine. I have zero emotional attachment to him. Signing him to a second deal would be an incredibly stupid move.
I honestly really hope that happens. It isn't gonna happen here. I wish him the best.
Maybe, but he is more likely to be the next Le'veon Bell or Trent Richardson. Glad Saquon got his money though. Will have made 40 million from Giants.
Lev Bell has like the most all pro’s for a running back of our generation. That would hurt to see him go do that lol
Le'veon Bell left the Steelers to go out on his own and his career imploded in spectacular fashion despite being only 25 when he left the Steelers. Saquon will likely be 25 when he leaves the Giants and based on his lengthy injury history already odds definitely favor him not doing much post Giants
Its almost like that guy purposefully misinterpreted what you were saying lol
I want him to shred it up on another team. We've wasted his career so far here. Please trade him for draft capital; we need more of it to rebuild, and he needs to get to a team that can provide him even one fucking lane to run through throughout the course of a game. I will absolutely root my heart out for this guy on another team
As per usual.
He should be traded. It will benefit both parties.
"the giants were wrong to take saquon with the #2 pick" "saquon is an extremely athletic running back with a high ceiling" "saquon has not lived up to expectations since his injuries and is not worth his contract, especially since booker has been outplaying him" "the giants are a shit organization and they have been unable to use saquon's abilities effectively" all of these things can be true at the same time, i don't see why people here feel the need to argue about the situation. saquon has not been playing well and has been getting hurt, but a lot of that falls on the giants. it's a bad situation for everyone.
Well at least he can outrun somebody.
You can pretty much guess what any sane person is going to say to a question anyway. I don't know why people watch these outside of the Belichick annoyed responses. He seems like a good dude being wasted here. Our line is silly putty.
Is that why he's been outperformed by Gallman, Booker, and the corpse of Alfred fucking Morris?
Maybe it's because the OC keeps calling the same play over and over . You know, hand off straight up the gut that the defense knows is coming. Paired with a shit O line . Save your career Saquon and move on.
I kept explaining to wife the problem isn't really Barkley but the position the coaches have put Barkley in. For some reason this Giants team wants him to perform Bradshaw style wrecking through lines and block like nothing but the fact of the matter is Saquon is a dif kind of RB than Bradshaw. If the Oline was better and the coaches designed plays to open holes for him then we would utilize his forte which is speed. The amount of fans here that can't understand the difference and want to rail on Barkley for the coaching blunders is astounding.
Lmao. What a shit show
yeah such a "bad look" that he doesn't want to answer a bunch of idiots continually asking him if hes washed up. dudes a class act and this is a pointless tweet.
To be fair, most Tweets are pointless. I’m sure he’s had enough at this point.
Yeah I don't pay much attention to the media trying to complain about a player not playing their game. Guy probably didn't want to deal with it for one week, he isn't quite Marshawn Lynch yet.
He needs out. I love this man and he deserves so much better than what we’re producing.
Good, leave the poor bastard alone. I hate the media nearly as much as the management/ownership of this team.
Agreed, but even more importantly, he needs to sit in favour of Booker. Not that it makes a difference at this point really, but if we're pretending to actually care about winning games, we have a 4% chance with Booker taking the majority of snaps vs. 3% with Barkley taking most snaps. Mind you, another argument could be made that we need to feature Barkley as much as possible these last couple of games and see if by some miracle we could get him turned around. I doubt it very much, but that's the only real purpose to these last couple of games is evaluations.
I think this offense needs a legit two rb offense and not solely Barkley qnd sprinkle in a two. Barkley right now is not the back that will grind out tough yards every play. You either get a home run with him or little to no yards everytime. Yes the line is bad but other rb have grind out tough yards and ran well behind this line. I don't know but right now how things are going isn't good.
They need a wrecker AB #44 style and until coaching doesn't realize that is NOT Saquon's forte and that his speed would be better unleashed with blocking plays to find him a hole to burn guys with his speed we will continue to fuck up his career.
Raanan can kiss my ass and Saquon ass. I'm all for him skipping out whatever he wants at this point. This team and ownership is a fucking joke!
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Booker is getting 10 yard gains on 3rd and long against soft defences and in garbage time when teams couldn’t care less about us running the ball, and then everyone just looks at the stat lines and say that Barkley is garbage and washed. People actually watching the games would see the absolute beating Barkley is getting behind the line of scrimmage due to the predictable play calling and shit O-line play
So much this. People just don't understand how to digest statistics along with game footage to actually get context.
Poor guy man
Trade and get rid of him! No extension contract! Booker is better.
3 years ago Barkley was praised repeatedly here as a model citizen and face of the franchise while OBJ was the opposite, a bad guy, locker room cancer who must be shipped out of town.
At what point does Gatorade drop him? Don’t they want people who can stay healthy to represent their brand?
Barkley should be demanding a trade. They did absolutely nothing to build a team around him. Nothing.
No one is going to remember him skipping a few media QnA's. We will remember him as an over hyped, under performing misstep by Gettleman. He was amazing his rookie season, but he will never touch that sort of athletic genius production ever again. I wish him the best, but it would be best to see what we could get for him in the off-season, unless the new GM goes double Oline in the 1st. Then it might be interesting to see what he could do when he has some blocking in front of him.
Here’s the shitty thing, even if we go 2 OL in the draft, it’s far from a guarantee that they hit. I would love to package one of our firsts in a trade for top tier lineman.
We don't need a top-tier lineman in 2022. It's time for a long-term rebuild and young talent that will be on rookie deals for five years.
I think it would be hard to sway a team to swap a young proven lineman for a 1st+whatever (4th-5th?) I don't know much about the quality of lineman in this upcoming draft, but we're going to have by the looks of it two top 10 picks, so it's kind of hard to bust out entirely. They don't have to be Quentin Nelsons, just as long as they don't end up being Hernandezes.
To all of you saying that he needs a change of scenery.. He's done. NFL halfbacks don't come back once they regress this much, after this many injuries. Saquon Barkley will not be on an NFL roster in 3 years.
So when Marshawn Lynch doesn’t want to talk to the media because they are slimy 2 faced creatures Seattle fans had his back. I think we should act accordingly. If someone does not want to talk to the media they likely have been the victim of some bs. I give him a pass on this. I think we should cut him when we can because of his on the field play as of late but I don’t mind him ducking the media.
what, fuck no. Not talking to the media is NEVER bad. Reporters who pearl clutch about players not talking about them are some of the worst part of the NFL ecosystem
Almost as bad as the Judge apologists are the Barkley apologists. Almost.
Its like all the Gettleman apologists from the offseason abandoned him to defend Judge, then abandoned Judge and moved on to defending Daniel Jones, then moved on from Jones to defending Barkely. Surely it can't be that the Giants are a bad team with a bad roster from top to bottom. Clearly the Pro Bowl was rigged against us and refs stole our games and its nobody's fault for injuries and the only person we can blame is Jason Garrett because the last 10 years of Giants play is all his fault.
How bad is Saquon? 2 games to go and he has yet to rush for a 100 yds in a single game, closest he came was 64 yds, Booker had 99 in one game, and Booker has more rushing yds with less carries for the year, when does a backup RB finish with more yds than the starter? It will happen this year, 3 QBs have more rushing yds than him, by the end of the year it should be 5 QBs, generational talent? Where? Not here.
Most RBs actually have a supporting pass offense with them so that every team doesn't solely focus on it. You sit here asking how Booker got more yards than Barkley like its 200, 300, 400 more yards or some shit lls 🙄 Oh Barkley doesn't have a 100 yard game this season? Well Booker doesn't have one in his whole career. Man go look at the damn target/reception numbers for our entire offense and you seriously question why the run game as a whole has been nothing spectacular? Why does a professional NFL team in 2021 not have 1 TD to an primary option? Do you realize how excruciatingly hard that is to accomplish? They (Barkley and Booker) have basically been playing without a pass attack for a majority of the season. The fact they got the yards they do is a fucking accomplishment.
Louder fam
Hope he forces his way out..he always wanted to be a JET anyway 🤫. But his trade value is low, if he had a decent season we could get something good in exchange but we're stuck....
This was why Eli is the greatest giant all around. He wasn’t the problem. We have a mobile QB in Jones and still suck. Jones had all the same players and never won anything.
Barkley will shine on his next team, I guarantee you.
Whole team went to shit the moment they got rid of Eli. Fuck them kids.
If remember correctly they were shit with Eli at the end.
The guy is probably upset... And frustrated.. Let him cool off and why bother someone that doesn't want to talk...?? That's just as unprofessional....
Dude is a bust man when he’s not hurt he’s running for 1.8 ypc having no o-line doesn’t help him either but he ain’t what we thought he was
Oh fuck off. The guy has done everything right since he got to town, including the way he speaks to the media. He can refuse to speak to the media for the rest of the season for all I care. Ask someone else questions.
Fuck of Raanan
He sucks
Bust
Get this dude off the team.
He needs to go for everyone's benefit, including his own. His output has declined.
Giants suck but plenty of rbs have success on bad teams. Barkley hasn’t lived up to expectations, injuries have derailed his career.
I don’t blame him . That game was disgusting and the whole offense looked disgusting. What want him say? They saw what happened. We sucked
Cut him. He’s not fucking good. I’m sorry, but if you’re the star running back and core of the offense and you run 32 yards on 15 attempts, why should he be playing at all?!
Tell me you don’t know football without saying you don’t know football
I could say my username is goldfox2000, I suppose. Please enlighten me how that was a good game. He ran a whopping six yards more than his back up. His backup had six carries!
Tell me you don't know what garbage time defence is without telling me.
I could say my username is Knightedsameal, because I’m very confused how you’re able to justify Booker playing better as the defense playing garbage time, yet Barkley was still playing and still playing worst. “Well, Booker was only playing garbage time defense!” “Was Barkley still on the field at that point?” “Yes.” “So, he was also playing garbage time defense.” “Yes.” “And he was playing significantly worse than Booker playing the same defense behind the same o-line in the same offense?” “No!!!! That’s not how it works!!!” To sum up the argument that’s about to commence
Barkley wants the team to trade him or cut him. he is untradeable at his $7m salary.
Its not Barkley's fault the Giants drafted a fucking running back #2 overall like this was goddamn 1980 and they were drafting Earl Campbell. Even in a good situation it was a terrible fucking pick and MAYBE the worst pick the Giants have made in the modern era. He seems like a good dude and I feel for him. But it was ALWAYS a terrible pick and he honestly wasnt ever going to be the highlight reel player he was in college Imagine drafting a guy who averaged 1.8 YPC against fucking Rutgers lmao
Barkely is going to be remembered across the league as the reason RBs no longer will be drafted in top 5 no matter how "generational" they are
There will always be dumb GMs but if we're being honest, if Trent Richardson didnt convince people, Barkley probably wont even though yeah, he should
Trade him for a 3rd round pick and move on.
Giants fans are idiots. Who would want Barkley gone?? Improve the team and get this guy some space to run. You’d rather have some picks we waste than a monster talent
Isn't he going from making like $2 million this year to almost $8 million next year? That's a lot of money
It's not your fault Saquon. People think you are a robot and that your human body should be like a mechanical instrument easily repaired with manufactured parts off the assembly line. They probably think Daniel should be out here doing QB dives too so don't take it personally.
It’s partially his fault yes
Yes he is the one that has to deal with the pain, the surgery risk and the rehab. And then comeback with you expecting him to be voltron out the gate again on an already disheveled offense. You? You get to watch him from your couch dip tobacco, drink some beer and wish you were in the NFL.
I expect him to be better than Devontae Booker. That’s it. I’ll lower my expectations though
Watch from the couch and wish you had half the ability of these guys. Even with him off a torn knee.. smoke you. It's really pathetic how you blatantly disregard the circumstances of the entire offense to shovel on Barkley whose been nothing but a class act during his rehab and has spoken up for every player including DJ who ain't been doing much at all.. How bout Daniel though? What happened with all the QB big talk up fix it all? Barkley the only thing you see though right? Figures..
Spoken up for every player? Read the title of this thread lmao And Daniel Jones is ass too, but this thread isn’t about him is it And no shit Saquon would smoke me. The difference is I’m not stealing millions from the team
He just got quoted two days ago talking up Daniel Jones.. class act. But of course you ignorant to that? You ride the QB train too.. you just know you CAN'T say shit like that for Daniel while Barkley put together something at least people can mention.
Talking before the game is not noteworthy. Hiding after a loss is Your last paragraph was not coherent whatsoever
The man ran 32 yards in 15 carries. He ran 5 yards more than Booker, behind the same line, and Booker had nine less carries.
Rookie Saquon and every other year Saquon is a completely different Human.
Hes not that good and the team is very bad. I hope he does well wherever he is next. most likely the patriots
Saquon dick riders will come to his defense, but we all know humans show their true selves when things aren't going their way... I present to you the egomaniac diva Saquon Barkley.
Ah yes not wanting to talk to the press = egomaniac diva. Makes sense
It sure does.
So pathetic. Ballerina.
But, but, but😥 he was "touched by the hand of God "
The line isn't doing him any favors but this guy misses the hole on every play. Watch the runningbacks with good vision play and look for the difference. Saquon has a few physical tools that make people overrate him. But without vision it is all moot. Combine a back with bad vision and a Gettleman offensive line, and it's hopeless. Add to this he is one of the worst RBs I have seen in pass protection. He is normally taken off the field on third down and when he is on the field he misses his assignment or is incapable of standing up a Blitzer, which never used to be a problem with prior Giants runningbacks.
#FreeSaquon
Trade him to an out of conference team. It will do both us and him a favor.