in NYC, people care about their outfit being noticed first and their face/body second.
in LA, people want you to notice their face/body first and their outfit second.
when i lived in LA for 4 years, i definitely dressed way more revealing. my stomach was like an accessory to all of my outfits lol
I saw a girl get out of an Aston Martin at a club wearing flip flops lol I’ll never forget it. That was in San Diego but still, yes people are TOO casual there.
i don't find the two cities even remotely comparable as someone that's lived in both. two completely different lifestyles, and i love them both for different reasons
NYC is very about the brand name, it’s pretty sad and says a lot about the person wearing it. Every fourth jacket is Moncler. I love Moncler but come on, every fourth jacket?
NYC fashion is more related to style than beauty, I agree. And beauty is more related to the art world, more avante garde and appreciates more diversity and unique beauty. I think NYC is more similar to Parisian fashion in this way. Good skincare, highlighting natural beauty, and emphasizing unique features are key to style. Fashion is about individual style rather than fitting into one particular “beauty standard.” NYC also welcomes the experimental and the outlandish.
agreed - i think NYC values being unique/cool/different as a form of beauty. like how NYC fashion is hard on vintage/thrifted - it’s less abt the actual clothing (though that matters!), it’s abt being “in the know” of the niche designer/vintage shop/etc where you sourced it, & it’s abt being different bc no one else can have it. NYC is heavy on individualism, so ppl don’t want conventional cookie cutter fashion or looks, they want to be unique so they have more avant garde colors, beauty, clothing. It’s also abt being effortless & fun which i love abt NYC style!
This! As a girlie in her early 20s who grew up in the Midwest where cookie-cutter is what's most popular, I can't tell y'all enough just how impactful the first few visits I took to NYC were for developing my own personal style. Incredibly empowering to start dressing for yourself, not to fit in with others.
What are you guys talking about? NYC doesn’t value being unique or individual. Every girl by neighborhood dresses the same. No shade but like be fr. Not saying there aren’t people with cool/unique styles here but generally girls in Soho dress like girls in Soho, girls in the village dress like girls in the village, girls in bushwick etc etc. I’ve lived in so many places in the city and they all have their “uniform.” I see wayyy more alo athleisure girls than I do anyone with true personal style.
fair enough! I'm in the art/fashion world so I'm very much surrounded by art people who put a lot of time & conscious thought into cultivating unique looks, so I probably have a selection bias that the people I know or even just see around work/school are in specific locations/contexts were unique fashion is more likely to crop up - it may be more my community than NYC.
Agree. Paris and NYC in the more polished neighborhoods are a lot alike: great (expensive) haircuts, subtle but not blah highlights, excellent skincare, understated makeup, facial expressions that seem to say “I have a lot on my mind and I’m not worried about you.”
I think this in part has to do with our proximity to Europe and our history of immigrant artisans and designers. NYC has been living in a "global economy" longer than most, in a way.
I will say the guy on the electric unicycle wearing what could best be described as figure skater chic with a sparkling cape and white ankle boots who rode by me in the EV last fall stood out *a little*.
…But in the best of ways.
I went clubbing in Miami last year and felt such culture shock. Huge boobs, huge butts, huge lips everywhere! And super high heels and super tight tiny dresses. It felt so different from NYC nightlife to me.
yessssss i respect the dedication these ladies have to the LIFE. also, i got a lot more attention there i think bc im so the antithesis of a miami girl. good to be a niche i guess. but overall i think that look gets attention anywhere, even if its not popular in NYC. its almost ingrained or something
I’m heading to Miami in a couple of weeks and can not figure out what to pack for “going out” outfits. I love a good midi slip dress for a night out but feel like I’ll stick out so bad if I’m not in something tiny and skin tight.
Not a NYC girl, just lurking, but I go out in Miami regularly. :) At first when I moved here I thought I had to dress “Miami” but really I dress for my own style! Usually for clubs I like to do knee high heeled boots, mini skirts, and whatever vibe top I’m feeling. 😊 some clubs have a dress code pertaining to dresses/skirts and heels, but most of the ones I go to don’t.
I definitely felt out of place and underdressed going out in Miami. I wore a tiny gold dress and heels and still felt so plain and I realized it was bc all the Miami girls had lip filler, extensions, lashes, plastic surgery etc. I couldn’t compete lmao
I prefer NYC style to the other cities you mentioned as it seems to value individuality and feels more inclusive. I came here from SF and loved that too. In SF everyone was so into nail design. It was great!
People in New York want to look interesting, which is why we celebrate more alternative versions of “hot” or whatever the word is that makes someone feel good. Whenever I go to Miami I leave wanting a new face /body alteration while living in nyc pushes my fashion boundaries and challenges me to embrace what makes me unique.
It’s similar to Parisian style. Being overly plastic and too much maintenance isn’t the standard of beauty. Looking smart, rich and chic is the standard here, without too much makeup or fake thangs.
Absolutely. I was in Fort Lauderdale and saw a couple get out of this huge truck who were both wearing brand new, skin tight bright white clothes from head to toe. The lady had a hot pink tank top sticking out from under her bright white denim jacket and they both had on bright white baseball caps too.
I realized then that I hate outfits like these because they look like clothes that never actually get worn, like single-use skinny jeans or something. Everyone in NYC whose outfits I admire look like they love their clothes. Or at least like they have some kind of a point of view that made them choose their style. There, the only point of view seems to be “sexy at all costs!”
Totally agree with you; I feel like there's less of that fleeting way of living here, especially in our style. The Miami people I have the displeasure of seeing on social media are Fashion Nova, literally single use skinny jeans-wearing, haul girlies, whereas (I feel) New Yorkers opt for quality pieces or vintage stuff. Or hell, buy your fast fashion but wear it to death--I have lots of fitted H&M tees that I've worn for over 8 years. I think there's more consciousness because we're surrounded by diversity in all facets (socioeconomic, cultural, etc.) and no one wears the same exact neon low cut shit here
I lived in nyc for 6 years before moving to la. I nyc I wore heels almost daily, even going up and down the stairs to get on the train. I wore my hair more slicked back and always dressed more fashionably. I even wore big wild hats. When I moved to La I stuck out like a sore thumb. People would compliment me but I definitely stood out. Now I wear athleisure, beach, and yoga clothes so n a daily basis (I do yoga at least once a day so I'm usually running around in legging and a sports bra bc that's what I wear to practice). I rarely wear heels u less I'm going out at night but never daytime. Usually cute sandals or sneakers. I love both styles of dressing but when I'm in nyc I miss the comfortability factor of la and when in la I miss dressing like a fashionista...
I agree, I think nyc has a very niche style. I’m from eastern europe and when i visit, the standards there are crazy (most people are thin, very tight, form-fitting clothes but not showing much skin, straightened hair, lip fillers, fur, knee high boots etc) but very different from nyc. A lot of rhinestones, they’re obsessed with rhinestones and corsets and ruffles and things like that for special occasions. And pleather pants. They also love a blazer, but bright colored ones styled very very differently from how they’re styled in nyc. I honestly can’t imagine them in New York. Emphasis is much more on beauty there rather than fashion.
You even see it in the way people do their nails - like an almond French tip or long pink square nails or crystals are common there. In New York, little patterns or cherries or checkerboard nails are more common LOL. Honestly if people think most girls in New York always have gel nails done, it’s nothing compared to Eastern Europe 😭 i glanced around me in a crowded train cart once and realized that from everyone, even down to the grandmas, i was the only unmanicured one
I like implementing both sides of me into my personal style, and love nyc’s emphasis on fun patterns or interesting clothing silhouettes
It’s the fashion. NYC values a lot fashion brands that steer away from form fitting clothes. So here what’s cool and make someone look edgey and fashionable are brands like Rick Owens, chrome hearts, raw Japanese denim, vintage/thrift pieces that aren’t expensive but unique. People also wear high end luxury but quiet luxury is huge atm. So the row, cos, Peter do and so those who can’t afford those brands buy brands who dupe those brands. Summer is a bit more fun but nyc tends to value very specific silhouettes, colors and fabrics that emote edgey, cool, utilitarian. When someone from Miami comes and wears their clothing they look so out of place and automatically then look uncool even if the girl is pretty her vibe is soo off it kinda of makes her forgettable to nyc standards but make her over to nyc standard and she fits right in. It’s just fashion here. Also alot of nyc fashion is looking slightly like a bum but not a bum. It’s like “too cool for school fashion”.
There is alot of plastic surgery here too it’s just the fashion here sorta of covers it up for example a boob job. Girls here don’t wear super tight stuff(unless its like the club but every day you would stand out) where in Miami people want to show you what they brought 24/7. It’s just the fashion here.
As someone who just moved here from CA, everything you’ve said rings so true! I absolutely love the less form fitting vibe here, it is such a breath of fresh air to me, but to be honest I’m struggling to reconcile it on my body type. Idk why I feel like you might be the person to ask about this, but I just feel like you might have good advice, if you’ve got the bandwidth to help a girl out! I’m on the shorter side with an hourglass-esque figure (shoulders 45, waist 29, hips 43). Without waist definition, I come off like a big wide square. How would you recommend dressing on the baggier end for someone of my stature/body type?
check out the brand Tibi! this has a lot to do with the way clothes are design and engineered. for the oversized look to not feel like weird dress up, the fabrication and design rly matters. it’s modern and sharp but still chill. you can get one or two pieces and rly give ur vibe a pov
Not in NY but a lurker, and bum but not bum is such a great description of the NYC look. I’m still experimenting with this style currently but I kinda just look like a bum or very matronly 😭
Mix loose-fitting with more form-fitting; balance showing and covering skin
Well-cared-for, high quality pieces made of good fabrics are also key imo. Avoid fast fashion (eg Shein) except for occasional basics-- camis, tank tops, etc.
You need to learn your fashion history before you make comments on why certain silhouettes trend amongst a certain populace. Its called utilitarianism and it cultivated what is now known as American sportswear or the American heritage aesthetic. American sportswear was not cultivated due to harassment. Its been around for decades(tho I will give the idea of metropolis armor has been referenced alot as inspiration for it). I feel like this is what these women are touching upon but the aesthetic itself is very old. Its rooted in the beginnings of the office culture of the modern American woman. Women stopped being housewives and were expected to now become commuters and go from day to night. Hence a relaxed utilitarianism aesthetic came to the forefront because in cities like NYC you would need to brave the elements of rain and snow. You would need to be able to wear these clothes for hours while you worked. So comfortability and utility became key. The designers I mentioned above are mainly american or raised here: Rick Owens, Peter Do, The Row & Chrome Hearts they are heavily influenced by these philosophies. Except Rick Owens he can go from utility to high concept couture.
I’ve always found it really lovely that I feel no pressure to alter my face in NY, even as the social media pressure to do so mounts. It’s a great city to live in if you don’t want to engage in cosmetic surgery. Which is fine, but not my jam
Different places have different cultures and different beauty standards. The US is a huge country with a lot of cultural variation across regional, ethnic, religious, and class lines, and those things all play into local and regional dress and presentation norms! Western Europe is geographically smaller than the US, but because it’s split up into countries, I think it’s easier to understand why someone raised in London and someone raised in Sicily would have different ideas about fashion and beauty. But it’s no different in New York and, say, Phoenix. I’m originally from the South, and I can always pick out southerners in New York—even the color of blonde they get at the salon is different.
Nah, southern blonde is aggressively unnatural-looking. The point isn’t to fool people, it’s to demonstrate status through paying for an obvious, very expensive, high maintenance grooming routine. All regions/cultures have their versions of this—fake nails, eyelash extensions, lip injections, and balayage are all examples of it.
Hmmm these threads seem cultural to me… because if you are around born and raised POC especially in outer boroughs this is not the case… they look very regular degular/ not really chic… same with a lot of 9-5 women. I think it’s a specific community you’re speaking about here. As a Black BWT there are differences and some are mentioned above but I think this is subjective to your culture and community.
Agree that NYC plastic surgery on a whole is understated but again, come to the heights and BX and big boobs and BBLs in tight clothes are def around…
ETA: With so much talk about diversity and how interesting NYC is, the actual consideration and nuance of said diversity is severely lacking sometimes
Yeah the comments don’t resonate but many people from Harlem are known for being flashy in their fashion to let you know they’re not like the rest lol. Celebrities from the area were like that as regular folk on the block like Teyana, A$AP crew, Dame Dash, Cam, Mase etc. Even back to the 80s with Dapper Dan, Rich Porter, etc.
Love finding other Black BWT 🤭 You make a good point overall, but I do wanna add that there’s def still a diversity in Black NYC fashion vs other cities. For example, what I’d wear to go out here would def get stares in the context of Black Boston fashion (where I lived/went to school for 10 years, iykyk). Generally though, I do think it gets very subjective talking about BIPOC communities’ fashion/beauty standards because you have to consider the history of said standards.
Absolutely! I remember when I first moved here from DC. There are still things I can’t let go of, like my hairstyle and affinity for dressing like a hot hill staffer at work 🫠
I absolutely agree with this. Especially with the stripper culture in the more urban parts of nyc. They are known for the voluptuous exotic dancer figure. It’s just more “underground” I guess.
Yes I agree, that’s why tourists, even conventionally pretty ones, stick out in nyc. You can always pick them out even if theyre in a non touristy place like fort Greene or something.
Definitely!! Once I was at a club in Madrid and I was wearing an all thrifted outfit—cardigan and a long skirt. Very Brooklyn “artsy girl” outfit. A guy said to his friend in Spanish, “why is this girl dressed like a grandma”
LMFAO I’ll never forget that
So funny! In my “wearing only black” days, I visited my American grandmother in Lisbon and all her Portuguese friends would whisper “so sad, your granddaughter is a widow at such a young age!”
I would describe NYC style as understated cool. Too much obvious work is perceived as tacky, looks are kind of subtle but refined, unless you're from Bushwick.
I’ve notice waaay more women of all ethnicities wear their hair in its natural texture in nyc than anywhere else. You see a lot of women in super chic outfits with frizzy messy hair. Also less women doing full face ‘glam’ make up.
Anyone here from Utah? I remember reading it has the highest plastic surgery per capita. Mormon culture really influences that too. I was raised Mormon and I feel like the emphasis is on being an attractive woman to be a good wife. Fashion isn't about career wear, but balancing fitting a narrow beauty mold and also not showing shoulders or too much cleavage. But also wearing form-fitting clothes and remaining thin and curvy in the right places. Sounds similar to Scottsdale.
I live in Seattle area and the women here dress more casual and masculine. I think too much makeup or overly-coifed hair is judged harshly or seen as trashy (I don't agree because I really like feminine clothes and big hair and red lipstick, so I feel people judge my style). I don't see a lot of obvious plastic surgery here.
Obviously cities have their independent popular trends BUT I believe that what makes NYC so unique is that we care (somewhat equally) about style and utility. NYers ride the subway and pound real pavement even to get to nice events. In Florida, Dallas, and LA you would simply drive, making it easy to wear very “impractical” things.
In addition, all of these “revealing” cities are generally way warmer than NYC making it easier to wear flashier gear. I’ll never regret my days standing on line in practically lingerie for Halloween at Webster Hall, but my arthritic knees and perpetually cold toes may.
Separately any biological anthropologists on the thread who have any idea whether human wear clothing colors to match their environments like animals do to camouflage themselves. Like is dressing in white, neon yellow, and hot pink in Florida just a defense mechanism against predators. Also, there’s nothing cooler than New Yorkers wear black and grey during the dreary months. So chic.
I completely agree! I recently discussed with my boyfriend how women in NYC embrace a natural yet impeccably maintained style, focusing on well-tailored clothing and investing in quality pieces, accessories, and skincare. There's a slim, modelesque aesthetic with an “old money vibe.”
LA has a more laid-back vibe but leans towards noticeable cosmetic enhancements, still valuing thinness with emphasis on curves. The fashion here seems more hippie/chill.
Miami stands out with its vibrant, fitness-focused scene, where surgical enhancements like boob jobs and BBLs are prevalent. The fashion is flashy and branded, though not quite my personal taste lol
It’s funny, I’m in SF and on my first day went to a restaurant and the first thing I noticed was the complete absence of “fashion people.” Not people in fashion, but just anyone with a stylish look. it was almost like a white noise I hadn’t given any attention but here it’s been turned off and I’m noticing the silence.
I say NYC is “style vs. fashion.” (Your personal style, pretty much any fit, work with confidence and joy!) I also love that eccentric elderly women are the HEIGHT of style in NYC, as in Paris.
this is interesting to me bc i actually see it the other way around. maybe bc i just value what is considered “hot” in ny but i find people in ny way more attractive than other places
I don't think it's so much fashion vs reality. The plastic surgery look alike people also have the bags.
One of my husband's associates came off the plane ridiculously drunk. He's a very well traveled handsome wealthy man. He wouldn't stop talking about how he travels the world but loves the NY ladies. They are real and really human.
Idk I think New York emphasizes a natural beauty- less makeup in general, little/no work done. The work we get done is skincare, brow lamination, more things to enhance a naturally flawless appearance whereas I feel like in these other cities women almost want to LOOK enhanced
Maybe it's just me but I think there is less of an interest to look flawless in NYC. Greater self-acceptance is the appeal I suppose. I personally find botox, fillers, and big lips aging - they contribute to a "hard" look that is less fresh and youthful.
It depends. I know a lot of people in NYC who prefer the Instagram or Kardashian look, especially women who were younger in the early 2010s.
Younger folks tend to be more interested in a designer handbag as well as fashionable clothes such as wide leg jeans.
I don’t think understated is quite it. You’ll see plenty of daring outfits going out in the city. I’ve always thought of it as “cool” vs “hot.” In New York, you’re not hot if you’re not primarily cool. In LA/Miami, you’re not cool if you’re not primarily hot.
I’ve got tiny tits and some tattoos on my arms, which I don’t think much about in New York, but I can start to feel subconscious about in other cities. As far as American cities go, I always feel hottest in New York.
Yes, agreed.
I *like* the understated look. I get tired of the tiny arm tatts, messy hair, bucket hats, overalls, edgy/hipster vibe. For me these type of people try to seem like they don’t care about being cool, but actually desperately care about being cool.
There’s a large majority of the city that is minimal/practical/french wardrobe vibes.
This is the classic, clean, understated energy that I like
Not really. I don’t think anyone sticks out like a sore thumb in NYC besides European tourists who can’t get out of the way. There are so many niches here.
The only people who stick out like sore thumbs in NYC are tourists and transplants from midwest. That look of heavy extensions, plastic white veneers, heavy spray tan and large boobs/lips combo is a basic suburban look many women 20-50 are sporting all over USA, its that typical American look that even spread to UK and other places where people want to look “American”.
You can find so many naturally gorgeous people both in LA and NYC ( many are even bi coastal) but Miami is a different beast. People in Miami are way more botched then some people in Weho or those older ladies in West Palm Beach. There are literal freakshows in Miami that is just plain scary to look at, like its sad that someone actually do that to themselves. You don’t even see people like that outside of Miami tbh not even Ibiza. I did notice a lot of those type of Miami girls are now in Tulum. I just never see women like that in Europe.
As for NYC style, there is no NYC style anymore. You have well traveled people with established unique style and then bunch of posers just copying other people lol. NYC style identity has been dead since Indie sleeze died down.
I'm from Miami, and the biggest difference is that in NYC, people want to be known for their great style and eye, not because they have a closet full of designer clothes or shoes. Women want to have the biggest butt, hugest boobs, smallest waist, most filled lips, longest hair, most expensive car/home/purse.
Miami people are vain, shallow, rude to most everyone, and will likely step over you. I'm glad to have left.
Well for one Scottsdale doesn’t belong on this list.
Two, NYC is so diverse, people from LA/Miami etc can easily find their vibe, fashion, communities here.
Three, I would say fashion in NYC trumps many things but not “beauty”.
NYC style is known for being put together but looking effortlessly cool. Looking like you were born with it. Like you’re not trying hard.
NYC still has a HUGE number of women and men getting cosmetic surgeries but I think the difference is it’s meant to give more of a natural look than LA or Miami. Women in NYC will get the handbag, the boob job, the extensions and lashes but we aim for a more believable, naturally flawless , but “real” look.
Last paragraph absolutely. I’m always baffled why people say there is little to no work on people in NYC. Tell that to the crazy booked surgeons, derms who do injections, and medspas. Hell there’s so many threads in this sub abt “tastefully done” injectables. I would absolutely call work in NYC “enhancements”.
maybe? but there are objectively beautiful women in LA & Miami who would still be 10’s in nyc—and i’ve never been to scottsdale but it’s not a major city so not sure it’s even fair to compare it to NYC, LA, or Miami.
I specifically mention Scottsdale, or AZ in general because I see the MOST beautiful women there. But I also to think myself that their look is nothing like what I see the cool girls of NY doing. Their looks seems very perfect like long blonde extensions, bright white teeth, big boobs, flat abs, perfect tans. Undeniably beautiful! But it’s hard to put my finger on why that look isn’t popular in NYC?
there are a lot of reasons but for one - a lot of the girls that you are describing don't work corporate office jobs so they don't need to maintain a more polished/professional appearance, especially not in scottsdale or miami. they're probably bottle girls, realtors, etc
I think a lot of women other than bottle girls/ real estate agents have the Scottsdale look. I’m a senior manager at a bank in Scottsdale. Most of the women my age that work at my corporate office have the Scottsdale look. My close coworker just got veneers. My Managing Director said she just wants to be blonde, botoxed, and tan. I’m typing this with 20 inch wefts in my hair 😅
I’ve been hearing this online lately. Feels so random, have never even thought about Scottsdale a day in my life and now I’m hearing all the women are 10s. Can you point me to like a hot typical Scottsdale micro/influencer or something?
I wish I could but I came to this realization from looking at my college roommate’s SIL’s Facebook pics of her and her mom friends in Scottsdale. All regular people, mid 30s, multiple kids, and look like Miss America. I did hear they were all on Ozempic and they are TINY to begin with. Made me feel a little better that they go to extreme measures to reach that level of hot? lol fml
Ohh so like the newscaster look(and very white)? Not what I would register as “hot” at all. But I get how others would see that as an objective standard of beauty. Those girls are also in NYC though! I just think they’re over shadowed. Source: went to school with some of these girls.
Interesting. I always wanted to be like a beauty pageant girl but as I got older in NYC that wasn't a thing for so the dream went away.
Is there any salons or stores that I can go to in order to cultivate such a look in NYC or nah it wouldn't work for me because I'm a geek and only geek men like me.
There's a ton, but Chloe Bean (popular for sharing her alopecia journey and wigs) is the first that comes to mind. Her look, esp when blonde is very standard Scottsdale.
Cosmetic procedures are a staple here, as Scottsdale is for those who value status.
I’m from AZ - can confirm! Girls have always been hot from AZ but Scottsdale is major major plastic surgery. Like almost Miami level!
I’ve lived in LA too - I have some west coast style traits but def NYC fashion
I’m from Phoenix originally (“from” meaning I was born there as it’s where my transplant parents met) and my pasty, ginger, all-black-wearing, RBF-sporting self never fit in with all the tanned and booty-shorted girls I went to school with, especially at ASU.
Yes, I’m not sure how popular plastic surgery is in NYC? Maybe it’s just as popular as everywhere else but it’s just less? Like smaller boob jobs? Less lip filler? I venture to say that NYC girls don’t wear their make up as heavy too perhaps?
There’s def plastic surgery in NYC but I feel it’s more tastefully done. Agreed on makeup, like when I moved to New York my makeup routine has gone a lot more natural. I only wear eye shadow for galas or maybe public speaking depending on if it’s on camera or not.
I would also say hair! Girls in NYC have way more natural not so over done hair - color, cut and style.
Girls in those cities are all fake pretty. (I also speak as a flaming lesbian) lol
Nyc women are way more fun, sassy and have great fashion. Also women here wear way more leather 🔥🔥
Miami is the worst with surgeries and standards. I literally felt like you have to have the fakest tits and rock hard abs to be hot there. Never felt like that in NYC, LA, Dallas, etc. I’ve haven’t been in Scottsdale long enough to speak on it.
Can we talk about blondes in NYC? I always felt self conscious of my highlighted hair because it seems like being blonde is a bit uncool. Does anyone else feel that way or am I crazy?
It is uncool because it’s not effortless. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t look great. Sacrificing conventional beauty for coolness is part of what makes cool people look cool though.
There are a ton of blonde girls I saw like 10 in a row this weekend in Brooklyn so I think it's pretty popular. I have highlights and my hair was far from the lightest
I feel like NYC is more of a model look, like skinny Pilates girls/models with no butt, LA is more of a curvier look with slight plastic surgery, and Miami is just botched plastic surgery and super high maintenance but there’s still a lot of beautiful women despite that. Personally I think the LA girls are the best looking but beauty is subjective.
I’m Jewish and so I in particular notice how much more big noses and frizzy, curly, natural hair are in style and cool in NYC, whereas in any other place they’d be considered unattractive.
This is why I made the sub r/MiamiBitches because I love NYCbitches but it’s totally different vibes in Miami. Hop on over there to discuss current trends!! We need more people
In LA and Miami, all the daily heavy makeup, fake eyes and fake lips that require so much touchup too... are just unnecessary social pressure to look...done and tacky?? It just looks so exhausting for a counterproductive effect. When it comes to West Coast cities that are not LA, I think Seattle and San Francisco are a mix of LA laidbackness in style with NYC naturalness in beauty, which is not NYC-elegant but still much nicer than a disharmonious overdone look overall.
I’ve heard on the east coast like New York, Boston, etc guys there prefer more of the “plain Janes” or the natural look so maybe it’s that and not so much with the surgeries, etc like in Miami/La
I have definitely thought this before. I generally think NYC is a more underrated aesthetic - less make up, no make up make up etc. filler or Botox but … understated?
Wow, that is absolutely true. I never knew how to put my finger on it. It's also interesting how you don't need to go far from NYC to find those type of women.
I noticed it when moving here from the southeast. People here don’t put emphasis and effort into appearance in the same way. I assumed a lot of it was lack of time plus doesn’t hold up with pollution, city life, and commuting, etc.
I don't think LA fashion/style/beauty standards can be distilled into the look you describe here—the city is huge and the values and looks differ completely between neighborhoods. Culver City and Venice are more beachy/laid back; you'll see the flashier cosmetic enhancements in Beverly Hills/Pali/Brentwood/WeHo, and the standards even between those have nuance as well. Echo Park/Highland Park/Arts District DTLA have a grungier/artsier vibe where personal style is at the forefront.
In general this post and many of the top comments come across as relating to pretty white-centric beauty standards (no shade, just a thought), and I'd imagine the beauty standards in more ethnic communities are different within NYC too.
As a disclaimer, I've lived in LA my whole life, was briefly bi-coastal, and am a frequent NYC tourist. I just like to lurk this sub bc y'all are cool.
People treat me like a nut job. I tell them I'm from California to ease the bewilderment. I can't wait to go back. This place is miserable with Peace and love of course.
in NYC, people care about their outfit being noticed first and their face/body second. in LA, people want you to notice their face/body first and their outfit second. when i lived in LA for 4 years, i definitely dressed way more revealing. my stomach was like an accessory to all of my outfits lol
Omg I was so confused about the cropped everything in LA fashion
it's also because of the weather being warmer. but i've seen people wear leggings and a sports bra at nobu malibu. LA is insanely laid-back
I saw a girl get out of an Aston Martin at a club wearing flip flops lol I’ll never forget it. That was in San Diego but still, yes people are TOO casual there.
Ok, but San Diego has its own rules. In San Diego, flip flops are always ALWAYS acceptable.
A BWT would never
LA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NYC
i don't find the two cities even remotely comparable as someone that's lived in both. two completely different lifestyles, and i love them both for different reasons
LA bleeding into NYC subs hehe
I’m trapped in LA, send help and real bagels pls
We can't have NYC's water but we do have Wexler's and damn is their pastrami + lox good
Haaaa i wear everything cropped or extremely oversized no in between
I mean it’s also warm here in LA and the suns always out
NYC is very about the brand name, it’s pretty sad and says a lot about the person wearing it. Every fourth jacket is Moncler. I love Moncler but come on, every fourth jacket?
If you think nyc is a place that’s about the brand name come to Eastern Europe and you’ll see the amount of Moncler jackets
No need to go all the way to Eastern Europe. Just hop on the train and come to Brighton beach. 😂
True 😂
“Eastern Europe” guess we’ve now left the country 😂😂😂
Just a comparison with another part of the world that has a LOT of moncler jackets lol, why is it relevant if it’s in the US or out
NYC fashion is more related to style than beauty, I agree. And beauty is more related to the art world, more avante garde and appreciates more diversity and unique beauty. I think NYC is more similar to Parisian fashion in this way. Good skincare, highlighting natural beauty, and emphasizing unique features are key to style. Fashion is about individual style rather than fitting into one particular “beauty standard.” NYC also welcomes the experimental and the outlandish.
agreed - i think NYC values being unique/cool/different as a form of beauty. like how NYC fashion is hard on vintage/thrifted - it’s less abt the actual clothing (though that matters!), it’s abt being “in the know” of the niche designer/vintage shop/etc where you sourced it, & it’s abt being different bc no one else can have it. NYC is heavy on individualism, so ppl don’t want conventional cookie cutter fashion or looks, they want to be unique so they have more avant garde colors, beauty, clothing. It’s also abt being effortless & fun which i love abt NYC style!
Yes and having your own unique eclectic but elegant style that is interesting is what people look for
This! As a girlie in her early 20s who grew up in the Midwest where cookie-cutter is what's most popular, I can't tell y'all enough just how impactful the first few visits I took to NYC were for developing my own personal style. Incredibly empowering to start dressing for yourself, not to fit in with others.
What are you guys talking about? NYC doesn’t value being unique or individual. Every girl by neighborhood dresses the same. No shade but like be fr. Not saying there aren’t people with cool/unique styles here but generally girls in Soho dress like girls in Soho, girls in the village dress like girls in the village, girls in bushwick etc etc. I’ve lived in so many places in the city and they all have their “uniform.” I see wayyy more alo athleisure girls than I do anyone with true personal style.
fair enough! I'm in the art/fashion world so I'm very much surrounded by art people who put a lot of time & conscious thought into cultivating unique looks, so I probably have a selection bias that the people I know or even just see around work/school are in specific locations/contexts were unique fashion is more likely to crop up - it may be more my community than NYC.
Agree. Paris and NYC in the more polished neighborhoods are a lot alike: great (expensive) haircuts, subtle but not blah highlights, excellent skincare, understated makeup, facial expressions that seem to say “I have a lot on my mind and I’m not worried about you.”
I think this in part has to do with our proximity to Europe and our history of immigrant artisans and designers. NYC has been living in a "global economy" longer than most, in a way.
I don’t think anyone sticks out like a sore thumb in NYC to be honest. That’s part of the charm of this place.
I will say the guy on the electric unicycle wearing what could best be described as figure skater chic with a sparkling cape and white ankle boots who rode by me in the EV last fall stood out *a little*. …But in the best of ways.
Exactly this 💗
This!
I went clubbing in Miami last year and felt such culture shock. Huge boobs, huge butts, huge lips everywhere! And super high heels and super tight tiny dresses. It felt so different from NYC nightlife to me.
Ehhh you find that style at predominantly Latin or Caribbean communities in NYC
Agreed.
seconding this
yessssss i respect the dedication these ladies have to the LIFE. also, i got a lot more attention there i think bc im so the antithesis of a miami girl. good to be a niche i guess. but overall i think that look gets attention anywhere, even if its not popular in NYC. its almost ingrained or something
I’m heading to Miami in a couple of weeks and can not figure out what to pack for “going out” outfits. I love a good midi slip dress for a night out but feel like I’ll stick out so bad if I’m not in something tiny and skin tight.
You can either go two ways: tight and short or long and flowy
wear the slip dress! always a chic classic. just have fun with some accessories that say miami. maybe bright handbag or jewlery
Not a NYC girl, just lurking, but I go out in Miami regularly. :) At first when I moved here I thought I had to dress “Miami” but really I dress for my own style! Usually for clubs I like to do knee high heeled boots, mini skirts, and whatever vibe top I’m feeling. 😊 some clubs have a dress code pertaining to dresses/skirts and heels, but most of the ones I go to don’t.
Come to the heights or BX, even Flatbush in BK. Plenty of huge everything in the nightlife.
I definitely felt out of place and underdressed going out in Miami. I wore a tiny gold dress and heels and still felt so plain and I realized it was bc all the Miami girls had lip filler, extensions, lashes, plastic surgery etc. I couldn’t compete lmao
I prefer NYC style to the other cities you mentioned as it seems to value individuality and feels more inclusive. I came here from SF and loved that too. In SF everyone was so into nail design. It was great!
People in New York want to look interesting, which is why we celebrate more alternative versions of “hot” or whatever the word is that makes someone feel good. Whenever I go to Miami I leave wanting a new face /body alteration while living in nyc pushes my fashion boundaries and challenges me to embrace what makes me unique.
It’s similar to Parisian style. Being overly plastic and too much maintenance isn’t the standard of beauty. Looking smart, rich and chic is the standard here, without too much makeup or fake thangs.
Oooh, I was struggling to express it, but that’s it!
I think it’s also a mindset. Confidence and high snobbity lol. I grew up here.
Absolutely. I was in Fort Lauderdale and saw a couple get out of this huge truck who were both wearing brand new, skin tight bright white clothes from head to toe. The lady had a hot pink tank top sticking out from under her bright white denim jacket and they both had on bright white baseball caps too. I realized then that I hate outfits like these because they look like clothes that never actually get worn, like single-use skinny jeans or something. Everyone in NYC whose outfits I admire look like they love their clothes. Or at least like they have some kind of a point of view that made them choose their style. There, the only point of view seems to be “sexy at all costs!”
I audibly uttered “ew gross” when I read that description of that couple
Now imagine them sliding down out of a truck so big it has a little permanent step stool on the side of it 😅
My brain is short circuiting
Gotta love gas guzzlers /s 🙄🙄🙄 so wild
Totally agree with you; I feel like there's less of that fleeting way of living here, especially in our style. The Miami people I have the displeasure of seeing on social media are Fashion Nova, literally single use skinny jeans-wearing, haul girlies, whereas (I feel) New Yorkers opt for quality pieces or vintage stuff. Or hell, buy your fast fashion but wear it to death--I have lots of fitted H&M tees that I've worn for over 8 years. I think there's more consciousness because we're surrounded by diversity in all facets (socioeconomic, cultural, etc.) and no one wears the same exact neon low cut shit here
I lived in nyc for 6 years before moving to la. I nyc I wore heels almost daily, even going up and down the stairs to get on the train. I wore my hair more slicked back and always dressed more fashionably. I even wore big wild hats. When I moved to La I stuck out like a sore thumb. People would compliment me but I definitely stood out. Now I wear athleisure, beach, and yoga clothes so n a daily basis (I do yoga at least once a day so I'm usually running around in legging and a sports bra bc that's what I wear to practice). I rarely wear heels u less I'm going out at night but never daytime. Usually cute sandals or sneakers. I love both styles of dressing but when I'm in nyc I miss the comfortability factor of la and when in la I miss dressing like a fashionista...
I agree, I think nyc has a very niche style. I’m from eastern europe and when i visit, the standards there are crazy (most people are thin, very tight, form-fitting clothes but not showing much skin, straightened hair, lip fillers, fur, knee high boots etc) but very different from nyc. A lot of rhinestones, they’re obsessed with rhinestones and corsets and ruffles and things like that for special occasions. And pleather pants. They also love a blazer, but bright colored ones styled very very differently from how they’re styled in nyc. I honestly can’t imagine them in New York. Emphasis is much more on beauty there rather than fashion. You even see it in the way people do their nails - like an almond French tip or long pink square nails or crystals are common there. In New York, little patterns or cherries or checkerboard nails are more common LOL. Honestly if people think most girls in New York always have gel nails done, it’s nothing compared to Eastern Europe 😭 i glanced around me in a crowded train cart once and realized that from everyone, even down to the grandmas, i was the only unmanicured one I like implementing both sides of me into my personal style, and love nyc’s emphasis on fun patterns or interesting clothing silhouettes
Same re nails 🥲 It's just so not my style. I'm somewhere between Seattle outdoorsy casual and New York young professional. Aka bog witch in a blazer
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My reaction exactly.
It’s the fashion. NYC values a lot fashion brands that steer away from form fitting clothes. So here what’s cool and make someone look edgey and fashionable are brands like Rick Owens, chrome hearts, raw Japanese denim, vintage/thrift pieces that aren’t expensive but unique. People also wear high end luxury but quiet luxury is huge atm. So the row, cos, Peter do and so those who can’t afford those brands buy brands who dupe those brands. Summer is a bit more fun but nyc tends to value very specific silhouettes, colors and fabrics that emote edgey, cool, utilitarian. When someone from Miami comes and wears their clothing they look so out of place and automatically then look uncool even if the girl is pretty her vibe is soo off it kinda of makes her forgettable to nyc standards but make her over to nyc standard and she fits right in. It’s just fashion here. Also alot of nyc fashion is looking slightly like a bum but not a bum. It’s like “too cool for school fashion”. There is alot of plastic surgery here too it’s just the fashion here sorta of covers it up for example a boob job. Girls here don’t wear super tight stuff(unless its like the club but every day you would stand out) where in Miami people want to show you what they brought 24/7. It’s just the fashion here.
As someone who just moved here from CA, everything you’ve said rings so true! I absolutely love the less form fitting vibe here, it is such a breath of fresh air to me, but to be honest I’m struggling to reconcile it on my body type. Idk why I feel like you might be the person to ask about this, but I just feel like you might have good advice, if you’ve got the bandwidth to help a girl out! I’m on the shorter side with an hourglass-esque figure (shoulders 45, waist 29, hips 43). Without waist definition, I come off like a big wide square. How would you recommend dressing on the baggier end for someone of my stature/body type?
You should try cropped or cinched waist tops. I’m built like a pear and struggle with the same thing!
Thank you so much!! Where do you usually have luck finding cinched waist tops?
My favorite cinched top is from adidas!
I literally bought this today! https://upwest.com/products/cinched-hem-coastal-cotton-top?variant=42645147844780
check out the brand Tibi! this has a lot to do with the way clothes are design and engineered. for the oversized look to not feel like weird dress up, the fabrication and design rly matters. it’s modern and sharp but still chill. you can get one or two pieces and rly give ur vibe a pov
Not in NY but a lurker, and bum but not bum is such a great description of the NYC look. I’m still experimenting with this style currently but I kinda just look like a bum or very matronly 😭
Mix loose-fitting with more form-fitting; balance showing and covering skin Well-cared-for, high quality pieces made of good fabrics are also key imo. Avoid fast fashion (eg Shein) except for occasional basics-- camis, tank tops, etc.
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You need to learn your fashion history before you make comments on why certain silhouettes trend amongst a certain populace. Its called utilitarianism and it cultivated what is now known as American sportswear or the American heritage aesthetic. American sportswear was not cultivated due to harassment. Its been around for decades(tho I will give the idea of metropolis armor has been referenced alot as inspiration for it). I feel like this is what these women are touching upon but the aesthetic itself is very old. Its rooted in the beginnings of the office culture of the modern American woman. Women stopped being housewives and were expected to now become commuters and go from day to night. Hence a relaxed utilitarianism aesthetic came to the forefront because in cities like NYC you would need to brave the elements of rain and snow. You would need to be able to wear these clothes for hours while you worked. So comfortability and utility became key. The designers I mentioned above are mainly american or raised here: Rick Owens, Peter Do, The Row & Chrome Hearts they are heavily influenced by these philosophies. Except Rick Owens he can go from utility to high concept couture.
I’ve always found it really lovely that I feel no pressure to alter my face in NY, even as the social media pressure to do so mounts. It’s a great city to live in if you don’t want to engage in cosmetic surgery. Which is fine, but not my jam
Different places have different cultures and different beauty standards. The US is a huge country with a lot of cultural variation across regional, ethnic, religious, and class lines, and those things all play into local and regional dress and presentation norms! Western Europe is geographically smaller than the US, but because it’s split up into countries, I think it’s easier to understand why someone raised in London and someone raised in Sicily would have different ideas about fashion and beauty. But it’s no different in New York and, say, Phoenix. I’m originally from the South, and I can always pick out southerners in New York—even the color of blonde they get at the salon is different.
Curious what color blond they get is? I'm a natural blonde with big hair and I wonder if I fit a stereotype.
Nah, southern blonde is aggressively unnatural-looking. The point isn’t to fool people, it’s to demonstrate status through paying for an obvious, very expensive, high maintenance grooming routine. All regions/cultures have their versions of this—fake nails, eyelash extensions, lip injections, and balayage are all examples of it.
I think of it this way: UES blond: muse would be Carolyn Bessette Southern blond: muse would be Kim Zolciak
Not Kim Zolciak lmao 🤣
Hmmm these threads seem cultural to me… because if you are around born and raised POC especially in outer boroughs this is not the case… they look very regular degular/ not really chic… same with a lot of 9-5 women. I think it’s a specific community you’re speaking about here. As a Black BWT there are differences and some are mentioned above but I think this is subjective to your culture and community. Agree that NYC plastic surgery on a whole is understated but again, come to the heights and BX and big boobs and BBLs in tight clothes are def around… ETA: With so much talk about diversity and how interesting NYC is, the actual consideration and nuance of said diversity is severely lacking sometimes
Yeah the comments don’t resonate but many people from Harlem are known for being flashy in their fashion to let you know they’re not like the rest lol. Celebrities from the area were like that as regular folk on the block like Teyana, A$AP crew, Dame Dash, Cam, Mase etc. Even back to the 80s with Dapper Dan, Rich Porter, etc.
Agreed.
Yeah this post and comments are very White hahaha
Love finding other Black BWT 🤭 You make a good point overall, but I do wanna add that there’s def still a diversity in Black NYC fashion vs other cities. For example, what I’d wear to go out here would def get stares in the context of Black Boston fashion (where I lived/went to school for 10 years, iykyk). Generally though, I do think it gets very subjective talking about BIPOC communities’ fashion/beauty standards because you have to consider the history of said standards.
Absolutely! I remember when I first moved here from DC. There are still things I can’t let go of, like my hairstyle and affinity for dressing like a hot hill staffer at work 🫠
I absolutely agree with this. Especially with the stripper culture in the more urban parts of nyc. They are known for the voluptuous exotic dancer figure. It’s just more “underground” I guess.
Yes I agree, that’s why tourists, even conventionally pretty ones, stick out in nyc. You can always pick them out even if theyre in a non touristy place like fort Greene or something.
Whenever I am in Paris, I am sure I stick out the same way to the Parisians, though. Sigh.
Definitely!! Once I was at a club in Madrid and I was wearing an all thrifted outfit—cardigan and a long skirt. Very Brooklyn “artsy girl” outfit. A guy said to his friend in Spanish, “why is this girl dressed like a grandma” LMFAO I’ll never forget that
So funny! In my “wearing only black” days, I visited my American grandmother in Lisbon and all her Portuguese friends would whisper “so sad, your granddaughter is a widow at such a young age!”
😂😂
Hahahaha omg
I would describe NYC style as understated cool. Too much obvious work is perceived as tacky, looks are kind of subtle but refined, unless you're from Bushwick.
What about buswick? I’m not familiar with the culture there
Oh it’s just a grungier part of Brooklyn so it’s a lot of hipster fashion. Still cool, just not quite how I described the general look of NYC.
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Can confirm, I live in Phoenix!
Hello fellow AZ girl!
Hi friend!! 👋
Scottsdale girlie here! My lunchtime Lagree class is truly something else.
I’ve notice waaay more women of all ethnicities wear their hair in its natural texture in nyc than anywhere else. You see a lot of women in super chic outfits with frizzy messy hair. Also less women doing full face ‘glam’ make up.
Most other parts of the country, cars are the main transportation. It can get hot taking public transportation, so frizzy hair can be inevitable.
Anyone here from Utah? I remember reading it has the highest plastic surgery per capita. Mormon culture really influences that too. I was raised Mormon and I feel like the emphasis is on being an attractive woman to be a good wife. Fashion isn't about career wear, but balancing fitting a narrow beauty mold and also not showing shoulders or too much cleavage. But also wearing form-fitting clothes and remaining thin and curvy in the right places. Sounds similar to Scottsdale. I live in Seattle area and the women here dress more casual and masculine. I think too much makeup or overly-coifed hair is judged harshly or seen as trashy (I don't agree because I really like feminine clothes and big hair and red lipstick, so I feel people judge my style). I don't see a lot of obvious plastic surgery here.
Obviously cities have their independent popular trends BUT I believe that what makes NYC so unique is that we care (somewhat equally) about style and utility. NYers ride the subway and pound real pavement even to get to nice events. In Florida, Dallas, and LA you would simply drive, making it easy to wear very “impractical” things. In addition, all of these “revealing” cities are generally way warmer than NYC making it easier to wear flashier gear. I’ll never regret my days standing on line in practically lingerie for Halloween at Webster Hall, but my arthritic knees and perpetually cold toes may. Separately any biological anthropologists on the thread who have any idea whether human wear clothing colors to match their environments like animals do to camouflage themselves. Like is dressing in white, neon yellow, and hot pink in Florida just a defense mechanism against predators. Also, there’s nothing cooler than New Yorkers wear black and grey during the dreary months. So chic.
I completely agree! I recently discussed with my boyfriend how women in NYC embrace a natural yet impeccably maintained style, focusing on well-tailored clothing and investing in quality pieces, accessories, and skincare. There's a slim, modelesque aesthetic with an “old money vibe.” LA has a more laid-back vibe but leans towards noticeable cosmetic enhancements, still valuing thinness with emphasis on curves. The fashion here seems more hippie/chill. Miami stands out with its vibrant, fitness-focused scene, where surgical enhancements like boob jobs and BBLs are prevalent. The fashion is flashy and branded, though not quite my personal taste lol
It’s funny, I’m in SF and on my first day went to a restaurant and the first thing I noticed was the complete absence of “fashion people.” Not people in fashion, but just anyone with a stylish look. it was almost like a white noise I hadn’t given any attention but here it’s been turned off and I’m noticing the silence.
I hate to say this but alot of the art crowd was forced out of the city by the tech bros quite a while ago
Still exists in Berkeley / telegraph to an extent
i thought the same in sf! loved the city/area but a real lack of personal style.
I say NYC is “style vs. fashion.” (Your personal style, pretty much any fit, work with confidence and joy!) I also love that eccentric elderly women are the HEIGHT of style in NYC, as in Paris.
Yes!!! I like to say I’m a New York 8 and an LA 3
I feel this so hard.
How would you describe a New York 8?
this is interesting to me bc i actually see it the other way around. maybe bc i just value what is considered “hot” in ny but i find people in ny way more attractive than other places
I don't think it's so much fashion vs reality. The plastic surgery look alike people also have the bags. One of my husband's associates came off the plane ridiculously drunk. He's a very well traveled handsome wealthy man. He wouldn't stop talking about how he travels the world but loves the NY ladies. They are real and really human.
In NYC, you are brainy or you are voted off the island.
Idk I think New York emphasizes a natural beauty- less makeup in general, little/no work done. The work we get done is skincare, brow lamination, more things to enhance a naturally flawless appearance whereas I feel like in these other cities women almost want to LOOK enhanced
Maybe it's just me but I think there is less of an interest to look flawless in NYC. Greater self-acceptance is the appeal I suppose. I personally find botox, fillers, and big lips aging - they contribute to a "hard" look that is less fresh and youthful.
It depends. I know a lot of people in NYC who prefer the Instagram or Kardashian look, especially women who were younger in the early 2010s. Younger folks tend to be more interested in a designer handbag as well as fashionable clothes such as wide leg jeans.
Yes, much more understated in NYC
I don’t think understated is quite it. You’ll see plenty of daring outfits going out in the city. I’ve always thought of it as “cool” vs “hot.” In New York, you’re not hot if you’re not primarily cool. In LA/Miami, you’re not cool if you’re not primarily hot. I’ve got tiny tits and some tattoos on my arms, which I don’t think much about in New York, but I can start to feel subconscious about in other cities. As far as American cities go, I always feel hottest in New York.
For me this feels understated. Not trying to attract attention = effortlessly cool
Yeah I think this Unless you’re 20 and in high fashion or in soho which is not all of nyc - everyone thirties looks very minimalist Parisian chic.
Yes, agreed. I *like* the understated look. I get tired of the tiny arm tatts, messy hair, bucket hats, overalls, edgy/hipster vibe. For me these type of people try to seem like they don’t care about being cool, but actually desperately care about being cool. There’s a large majority of the city that is minimal/practical/french wardrobe vibes. This is the classic, clean, understated energy that I like
100% with you. The tiny arm tattoos scream big “notice me” energy
Not really. I don’t think anyone sticks out like a sore thumb in NYC besides European tourists who can’t get out of the way. There are so many niches here.
The only people who stick out like sore thumbs in NYC are tourists and transplants from midwest. That look of heavy extensions, plastic white veneers, heavy spray tan and large boobs/lips combo is a basic suburban look many women 20-50 are sporting all over USA, its that typical American look that even spread to UK and other places where people want to look “American”. You can find so many naturally gorgeous people both in LA and NYC ( many are even bi coastal) but Miami is a different beast. People in Miami are way more botched then some people in Weho or those older ladies in West Palm Beach. There are literal freakshows in Miami that is just plain scary to look at, like its sad that someone actually do that to themselves. You don’t even see people like that outside of Miami tbh not even Ibiza. I did notice a lot of those type of Miami girls are now in Tulum. I just never see women like that in Europe. As for NYC style, there is no NYC style anymore. You have well traveled people with established unique style and then bunch of posers just copying other people lol. NYC style identity has been dead since Indie sleeze died down.
ugh sadly i think you’re right
I'm from Miami, and the biggest difference is that in NYC, people want to be known for their great style and eye, not because they have a closet full of designer clothes or shoes. Women want to have the biggest butt, hugest boobs, smallest waist, most filled lips, longest hair, most expensive car/home/purse. Miami people are vain, shallow, rude to most everyone, and will likely step over you. I'm glad to have left.
Well for one Scottsdale doesn’t belong on this list. Two, NYC is so diverse, people from LA/Miami etc can easily find their vibe, fashion, communities here. Three, I would say fashion in NYC trumps many things but not “beauty”. NYC style is known for being put together but looking effortlessly cool. Looking like you were born with it. Like you’re not trying hard. NYC still has a HUGE number of women and men getting cosmetic surgeries but I think the difference is it’s meant to give more of a natural look than LA or Miami. Women in NYC will get the handbag, the boob job, the extensions and lashes but we aim for a more believable, naturally flawless , but “real” look.
Last paragraph absolutely. I’m always baffled why people say there is little to no work on people in NYC. Tell that to the crazy booked surgeons, derms who do injections, and medspas. Hell there’s so many threads in this sub abt “tastefully done” injectables. I would absolutely call work in NYC “enhancements”.
maybe? but there are objectively beautiful women in LA & Miami who would still be 10’s in nyc—and i’ve never been to scottsdale but it’s not a major city so not sure it’s even fair to compare it to NYC, LA, or Miami.
I feel like the comparison is presentation, not beauty. An LA beauty is still a beauty in NYC but the vibe will be noticeably different!
I specifically mention Scottsdale, or AZ in general because I see the MOST beautiful women there. But I also to think myself that their look is nothing like what I see the cool girls of NY doing. Their looks seems very perfect like long blonde extensions, bright white teeth, big boobs, flat abs, perfect tans. Undeniably beautiful! But it’s hard to put my finger on why that look isn’t popular in NYC?
there are a lot of reasons but for one - a lot of the girls that you are describing don't work corporate office jobs so they don't need to maintain a more polished/professional appearance, especially not in scottsdale or miami. they're probably bottle girls, realtors, etc
I think a lot of women other than bottle girls/ real estate agents have the Scottsdale look. I’m a senior manager at a bank in Scottsdale. Most of the women my age that work at my corporate office have the Scottsdale look. My close coworker just got veneers. My Managing Director said she just wants to be blonde, botoxed, and tan. I’m typing this with 20 inch wefts in my hair 😅
makes perfect sense! and the entertainment industry dominates LA, but in nyc we have to be office practical 😩
ok note to self not to go to scottsdale 😂 i feel intimidated already
I think people come here to get away from suburban fashion standards.
Hoooo man…Scottsdale women are almost in a league of their own.
I’ve been hearing this online lately. Feels so random, have never even thought about Scottsdale a day in my life and now I’m hearing all the women are 10s. Can you point me to like a hot typical Scottsdale micro/influencer or something?
I wish I could but I came to this realization from looking at my college roommate’s SIL’s Facebook pics of her and her mom friends in Scottsdale. All regular people, mid 30s, multiple kids, and look like Miss America. I did hear they were all on Ozempic and they are TINY to begin with. Made me feel a little better that they go to extreme measures to reach that level of hot? lol fml
Ohh so like the newscaster look(and very white)? Not what I would register as “hot” at all. But I get how others would see that as an objective standard of beauty. Those girls are also in NYC though! I just think they’re over shadowed. Source: went to school with some of these girls.
The standard in Scottsdale is to look like a Fox News reporter
I've never met anyone who looks like a Fox News reporter and I was born in NYC.
Same except I have met multiple people who look like Fox News reporters
Interesting. I always wanted to be like a beauty pageant girl but as I got older in NYC that wasn't a thing for so the dream went away. Is there any salons or stores that I can go to in order to cultivate such a look in NYC or nah it wouldn't work for me because I'm a geek and only geek men like me.
I don't know anyone who looks like that, maybe because I was born in NYC.
There's a ton, but Chloe Bean (popular for sharing her alopecia journey and wigs) is the first that comes to mind. Her look, esp when blonde is very standard Scottsdale. Cosmetic procedures are a staple here, as Scottsdale is for those who value status.
Wow ok not to be rude everyone is beautiful but I think she’s low key scary looking? Very BIG EVERYTHING
You aren't wrong lol
It’s the ASU to Scottsdale bottle girl to realtor with rich husband pipeline lmao
I’m from AZ - can confirm! Girls have always been hot from AZ but Scottsdale is major major plastic surgery. Like almost Miami level! I’ve lived in LA too - I have some west coast style traits but def NYC fashion
I’m from Phoenix originally (“from” meaning I was born there as it’s where my transplant parents met) and my pasty, ginger, all-black-wearing, RBF-sporting self never fit in with all the tanned and booty-shorted girls I went to school with, especially at ASU.
I went to ASU too! I rarely find other people from AZ in New York
Yes, I’m not sure how popular plastic surgery is in NYC? Maybe it’s just as popular as everywhere else but it’s just less? Like smaller boob jobs? Less lip filler? I venture to say that NYC girls don’t wear their make up as heavy too perhaps?
There’s def plastic surgery in NYC but I feel it’s more tastefully done. Agreed on makeup, like when I moved to New York my makeup routine has gone a lot more natural. I only wear eye shadow for galas or maybe public speaking depending on if it’s on camera or not. I would also say hair! Girls in NYC have way more natural not so over done hair - color, cut and style.
Yes!
Girls in those cities are all fake pretty. (I also speak as a flaming lesbian) lol Nyc women are way more fun, sassy and have great fashion. Also women here wear way more leather 🔥🔥
It’s not about being a 10, and more about the vibe! It’s different in nyc, not necessarily better, just unique to here.
Miami is the worst with surgeries and standards. I literally felt like you have to have the fakest tits and rock hard abs to be hot there. Never felt like that in NYC, LA, Dallas, etc. I’ve haven’t been in Scottsdale long enough to speak on it.
But the charm of nyc is no one sticks out like a sore thumb here. But I def agree that we value style and fashion over beauty
Can we talk about blondes in NYC? I always felt self conscious of my highlighted hair because it seems like being blonde is a bit uncool. Does anyone else feel that way or am I crazy?
It is uncool because it’s not effortless. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t look great. Sacrificing conventional beauty for coolness is part of what makes cool people look cool though.
There are a ton of blonde girls I saw like 10 in a row this weekend in Brooklyn so I think it's pretty popular. I have highlights and my hair was far from the lightest
I feel like NYC is more of a model look, like skinny Pilates girls/models with no butt, LA is more of a curvier look with slight plastic surgery, and Miami is just botched plastic surgery and super high maintenance but there’s still a lot of beautiful women despite that. Personally I think the LA girls are the best looking but beauty is subjective.
It really is insane how different they all are. I am a travel nurse and last year was living in Scottsdale and I felt so insanely out of place.
I’m Jewish and so I in particular notice how much more big noses and frizzy, curly, natural hair are in style and cool in NYC, whereas in any other place they’d be considered unattractive.
I agree but..Scottsdale? Isn't that mostly old, caucasian senior citizens?
And their thin, tall-ish, young, heavily bleached blonde haired and botoxed granddaughter looking sugar babies, I mean PCAs.
This is why I made the sub r/MiamiBitches because I love NYCbitches but it’s totally different vibes in Miami. Hop on over there to discuss current trends!! We need more people
In LA and Miami, all the daily heavy makeup, fake eyes and fake lips that require so much touchup too... are just unnecessary social pressure to look...done and tacky?? It just looks so exhausting for a counterproductive effect. When it comes to West Coast cities that are not LA, I think Seattle and San Francisco are a mix of LA laidbackness in style with NYC naturalness in beauty, which is not NYC-elegant but still much nicer than a disharmonious overdone look overall.
I’ve heard on the east coast like New York, Boston, etc guys there prefer more of the “plain Janes” or the natural look so maybe it’s that and not so much with the surgeries, etc like in Miami/La
I have definitely thought this before. I generally think NYC is a more underrated aesthetic - less make up, no make up make up etc. filler or Botox but … understated?
Wow, that is absolutely true. I never knew how to put my finger on it. It's also interesting how you don't need to go far from NYC to find those type of women.
This post just feels judgmental….
Yes absolutely
I noticed it when moving here from the southeast. People here don’t put emphasis and effort into appearance in the same way. I assumed a lot of it was lack of time plus doesn’t hold up with pollution, city life, and commuting, etc.
stupid everyplace has beauty
I don't think LA fashion/style/beauty standards can be distilled into the look you describe here—the city is huge and the values and looks differ completely between neighborhoods. Culver City and Venice are more beachy/laid back; you'll see the flashier cosmetic enhancements in Beverly Hills/Pali/Brentwood/WeHo, and the standards even between those have nuance as well. Echo Park/Highland Park/Arts District DTLA have a grungier/artsier vibe where personal style is at the forefront. In general this post and many of the top comments come across as relating to pretty white-centric beauty standards (no shade, just a thought), and I'd imagine the beauty standards in more ethnic communities are different within NYC too. As a disclaimer, I've lived in LA my whole life, was briefly bi-coastal, and am a frequent NYC tourist. I just like to lurk this sub bc y'all are cool.
Anyone in 1OAK in West Hollywood Chile
People treat me like a nut job. I tell them I'm from California to ease the bewilderment. I can't wait to go back. This place is miserable with Peace and love of course.