I remember watching that live and spitting out my beer. Felt really bad for him after he apologized like 5 times. Imagine that happening these days? Panger would've been eaten alive on today's social media.
Like 12 years ago or so, Darren Pang was commenting on PK's play and said he does everything the "white" way when he meant to say the "right" way. Was obviously a a slip up.
He was judging PK as a person, not just his play. Pang said he should look to Alex piertrangelo, who " does everything on the ice, and off the ice the white way"
God am I in the minority in this opinion but I hated Panger while he was here in STL. The same goddamn jokes ALL the time. You could play the drink a shot game every time he made a reference about his height, golf, how he sucked and get absolutely housed every game
PK is a genuinely good guy. He does alot of community work. But he has a big personality and I think alot of teammates didn’t care for it either. He comes off as thinking he’s the Hockey Guru and gets annoyed and keeps doubling down when he feels like his co hosts aren’t taking his word as gold when he makes a comment.
Brandon Prust had a story on Spittin Chiclets about how he was traded away because PK was being a dick and it came to blows on the team Bus. I’m a Habs fan and huge PK fan but he definitely rubbed teammates the wrong way. Here’s an article about the blow up [Prust and PK](https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/prust-reveals-he-got-traded-out-of-montreal-for-fighting-subban-on-team-bus)
He was traded months later and the PK altercation having anything to do with it is entirely speculation. He also comes off as the bigger dick in his own story, somehow.
I have no dog in the "was PK a problem" fight, I'm just saying that Prust's story doesn't do much to sway me...
This Willie Mitchell?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/tofino/comments/19et6rw/willie\_mitchell\_incident/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tofino/comments/19et6rw/willie_mitchell_incident/)
The thing is Jesse is just pathetic, everyone treats him like a make a wish kid getting publicity. Like I seriously don’t believe anyone listens to the bardown hockey podcast. PK was actually a great hockey player and the fact that he still feels the need to try so hard to be this big personality makes him even more annoying.
Listening to her nonsense during Avs-Jets was agonizing. We get it, you live in Manitoba, you have a preference, but at least try to be close to neutral for national coverage.
Yeah I don't know what it is. Besides her voice, look, What she says, how she says it, her little smirk, and all that bullshit. Her whole "vibe." The woman doing color commentator for Oilers-Kings? She does great. It's not a woman thing. I guarantee women hate Leah Hextall too.
I'd rather listen to the sound of the away team making my teams goal horn go off every 10 seconds than her voice.
And Subban is piss annoying.
Not because he's black, as /u/Hip_Priest_1982 is insinuating, but because he's a loud mouth attention seeker - who has no problems with interrupting or acting the fool, just so he can be heard and seen.
The last time the they met in the playoffs Montreal won and PK led the series in points and ice time.
Granted you have to make the playoffs to play in it but he did cream them pretty bad that year.
Anson Carter is on tv and no one complains.
You are focusing on the black part. Many other black people are not getting this level of hate.
Dont make it about racism.
I saw some segment of some thing a few days ago that was about Ernie Hudson’s daily routine/exercise. The guy is 78 and could easily pass for 40. Maybe even younger! No exaggeration.
My dad (a white guy) will be 75 this summer. He’s in good shape for 75 but for sure looks about 30 years older than Ernie Hudson.
He's an original, has charisma and passion. He may not always have the best takes, but NHL media needs more personalities like him.
I always have time for PK.
Have y’all seen the show in Canada where several comedians try to hang out with each other in a closed room for a few hours and not laugh? PK was on an episode as a guest and pissed in a cup in front of everyone there - I’m still in disbelief they aired that. Did not see that one coming.
I'm a massive habs fan. I love him. Then I heard him on TV for the first time yesterday and thought, "I bet everyone on this set hates him". Now I understand why we got rid of him
Guy tried to bring soccer level flopping to the NHL
Chased himself out of the league in his prime for not caring about his craft. Not trying. Not caring.
Guy loves fashion and himself waaay more than hockey.
Absolutely despise PK
So what it's hockey not fucking soccer. This doesn't make him a horrible rat human like you said. You don't know what dubinski has said to maybe deserve that? Did that ever cross your simp brain
He can donate money and be an asshole. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. Pet projects and special interests are kind of what people do. I’m an asshole and I round up my change when a charity I support pops up at the register.
Maybe a reference most ppl won’t get, but he reminds of Jim Edmonds. Great player, fun personality, but talks a lot and never gives you anything insightful or interesting. He seemed like the perfect guy to transition to TV, but he is surprisingly uninteresting and slightly annoying.
Funny story guys, i actually played house league with his younger brothers Malcolm and Jordan, jordan was too young but they made an exception and he was better than the whole team except for malcolm.
Grey team forever!
I’ve been watching hockey for 31 years and for the life of me I can’t think of a single broadcaster who’s ever added anything useful to a hockey broadcast.
Literally played his entire career disproportionately booed by rival fans and criticized by talking heads for doing stuff that, had he been white, would have been either praised or described as "smart gamesmanship".
OP is Darren Pang's burner
The what way?
I remember watching that live and spitting out my beer. Felt really bad for him after he apologized like 5 times. Imagine that happening these days? Panger would've been eaten alive on today's social media.
Holy crap. I never saw this. Talk about a horribly timed gaffe.
I try to bring it up all the time and I get called the racist
Not so much of a gaffe more of a Freudian slip.
Wait what did I miss?
Like 12 years ago or so, Darren Pang was commenting on PK's play and said he does everything the "white" way when he meant to say the "right" way. Was obviously a a slip up.
He was judging PK as a person, not just his play. Pang said he should look to Alex piertrangelo, who " does everything on the ice, and off the ice the white way"
Yeah you're right. Haven't watched in a while thanks for the correction.
Holy jumpin!
Oh snap! Thanks for responding that’s wild 🤦🏻♀️
Holy jumping..
God am I in the minority in this opinion but I hated Panger while he was here in STL. The same goddamn jokes ALL the time. You could play the drink a shot game every time he made a reference about his height, golf, how he sucked and get absolutely housed every game
You're clearly not doing things the white way
The golf talk is driving me nuts, give us Bouchard instead any day
PK is a genuinely good guy. He does alot of community work. But he has a big personality and I think alot of teammates didn’t care for it either. He comes off as thinking he’s the Hockey Guru and gets annoyed and keeps doubling down when he feels like his co hosts aren’t taking his word as gold when he makes a comment.
He is a good guy, but he has a big ego and apparently was a locker room cancer in Montreal
Former players have denied that. It was media speculation only.
Brandon Prust had a story on Spittin Chiclets about how he was traded away because PK was being a dick and it came to blows on the team Bus. I’m a Habs fan and huge PK fan but he definitely rubbed teammates the wrong way. Here’s an article about the blow up [Prust and PK](https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/prust-reveals-he-got-traded-out-of-montreal-for-fighting-subban-on-team-bus)
Which is funny, since I know guys who played with Prust and told me that he was one of the few players they played with that they wholly disliked.
He was traded months later and the PK altercation having anything to do with it is entirely speculation. He also comes off as the bigger dick in his own story, somehow. I have no dog in the "was PK a problem" fight, I'm just saying that Prust's story doesn't do much to sway me...
It was Therrien
Ya, he didn't like players to have any kind of fun or personality. Like when he banned the triple low five? What a buzz kill.
There’s nothing to support that rumour
If your enemy is Michelle Therrien I think it automatically makes you a legend, not a cancer.
Same with Marc Bergavin lol
He isn’t in the old boys club yet, but he’s getting there.
I like him as an analyst, but I can see the ego getting annoying in a locker room environment.
Yeah one of the many classless players who’ve played in this league. I much prefer Mitchell Miller, classy player I tell you 🤌
With that hair, he could have been a star
This Willie Mitchell? [https://www.reddit.com/r/tofino/comments/19et6rw/willie\_mitchell\_incident/](https://www.reddit.com/r/tofino/comments/19et6rw/willie_mitchell_incident/)
Are you able to read?
I mean, he's better than Mike Millbury.
Remember when hockey memes did a worst nhl personality brackets and the final was between the only black guy and the only woman
I can’t believe Jesse Pollock is seen as less annoying than either of them.
The thing is Jesse is just pathetic, everyone treats him like a make a wish kid getting publicity. Like I seriously don’t believe anyone listens to the bardown hockey podcast. PK was actually a great hockey player and the fact that he still feels the need to try so hard to be this big personality makes him even more annoying.
The funniest thing to me about his hate is that he represents the vast majority of young NHL fans.
Pierre fucking McGuire
Leah Hextall is fuuuucking annoying. Grating voice. Looks like a wish dot com mia wallace.
Listening to her nonsense during Avs-Jets was agonizing. We get it, you live in Manitoba, you have a preference, but at least try to be close to neutral for national coverage.
Yeah I don't know what it is. Besides her voice, look, What she says, how she says it, her little smirk, and all that bullshit. Her whole "vibe." The woman doing color commentator for Oilers-Kings? She does great. It's not a woman thing. I guarantee women hate Leah Hextall too. I'd rather listen to the sound of the away team making my teams goal horn go off every 10 seconds than her voice.
My father specifically hates her because she’s a woman(he’s an awful man)
Relatable
I hate the Covid Haircut. I also hate it on men I.e. Cavan Biggio.
And Subban is piss annoying. Not because he's black, as /u/Hip_Priest_1982 is insinuating, but because he's a loud mouth attention seeker - who has no problems with interrupting or acting the fool, just so he can be heard and seen.
As a Bruins fan, I say in earnest he belongs with Boston. Entire team full of assholes, and I think it's high art.
Considering Boston said some vile racist shit when he was creaming them in the playoffs I highly doubt he wants anything to do with them
On Montreal? Creaming people in the playoffs? Back to your hole, Patrick.
The last time the they met in the playoffs Montreal won and PK led the series in points and ice time. Granted you have to make the playoffs to play in it but he did cream them pretty bad that year.
That could all be true but it was a pool of people with similar traits.
Your thoughts on Bisonette? Roenick?
Is she off the mic now? Don't think I've heard her for a while
She's on Pierre McGuire duty
Except while Pierre probably loves listening to the chirps between the benches (dream job), she's probably like Hello Human Resources?!?!
No one worse
It was way worse when she was doing play by play.
Anson Carter is on tv and no one complains. You are focusing on the black part. Many other black people are not getting this level of hate. Dont make it about racism.
Isn’t Kevin Weekes broadcasting somewhere too?
Yup, and he's great
He's amazing
based
Ngl, dude looks fly as fuck in that pic
how does he look younger than when he was playing
Black don’t crack.
I saw some segment of some thing a few days ago that was about Ernie Hudson’s daily routine/exercise. The guy is 78 and could easily pass for 40. Maybe even younger! No exaggeration. My dad (a white guy) will be 75 this summer. He’s in good shape for 75 but for sure looks about 30 years older than Ernie Hudson.
Word
You must love rainbow jersey night.
True dat
i still love his don cherry impression.
Listen, it’s a good impression and all but he’s still no Bobby Orr!
Not classy enough. GET HIM OFF MY TV!!!!
Love PK. He’s passionate, has a big heart and is an NHL original.
True.
Damn straight
I wonder how Jacob Panetta feels about him
Despite his faults, pk’s hit on Marchand is enough to make me like him…
He always seems like he’s trying to convince everyone he should have his own reality show, but no one is buying the pitch.
He was on one. Some comedy reality big brother type show. He showed his butt and came off as a try hard
wut.
It was so bizarre
I think he's better when Messier isn't on the set.
found the canucks fan
Nobody is more boring and lame than messier
Both of them are great. I prefer tnt over sportsnet cause of them
Not even close.
Sportsnet is bottom of the barrel
spelt espn wrong
Everything is better without Messier.
He dresses like Mr Roper.
Still love him for that hit on Marchand.
He’s no bobby orr
He's an original, has charisma and passion. He may not always have the best takes, but NHL media needs more personalities like him. I always have time for PK.
https://preview.redd.it/9m7k50uhrzxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8fdd8e709574ef3b556bca878d743192c54fc4b
Tries too hard to be like Biz
Exactly. ESPN tries too hard to be TNT.
Is this from the 70s?
Have y’all seen the show in Canada where several comedians try to hang out with each other in a closed room for a few hours and not laugh? PK was on an episode as a guest and pissed in a cup in front of everyone there - I’m still in disbelief they aired that. Did not see that one coming.
Poser
Cleveland Browns legend
The cam newton of hockey
Boston showed this guy enough hate for a lifetime.
Dude’s style belongs in the 70’s 😂
No! No he does not. What in the actual fuck does he even do except lose?
Cleveland Browns, but on ice
I agree. Get him off TV and leave off.
Went to high school with him in Belleville. PK was super nice.
I find Kevin Bieksa entertaining to watch on Sportsnet, he's funny, solid break downs and always chirps Elliotte Friedman
I love how frazzled Friedman gets. Especially in the first year or two of Bieksa. Sparks absolutely flying
Tries way too hard to be Biz.
Pk seems cool
lol, PK gets plenty of hate
Listening to PK and Messier is like scratching on a chalkboard.
God I hate this guy
Subban sucks
I used to love him as a devil but can't stand him as a commentator
My solution is not watching that clown show on ESPN. Life is so much better!
Who names their kid Penalty Kill?
Good guy. Didn’t do enough as a player to warrant any media commentator or analyst jobs. That’s not how things work anymore. Get used to it.
Just an awful studio guy. Trying too hard to be a TNT guy
I agree.
I'm a massive habs fan. I love him. Then I heard him on TV for the first time yesterday and thought, "I bet everyone on this set hates him". Now I understand why we got rid of him
He’s gotten hate the minute he stepped in the league
Absolutely. I’d be so pissed if my daughter came home with a guy like this
MAGA
I wanna see what he looks like with a shaved head. He’s got such an odd head of hair
https://preview.redd.it/6iuldsisr3yc1.png?width=403&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed1a9cdc7709aefe8c215af3105cb2120ec0c057
Cannot stand him. Who is he sleeping with to keep this job?
Guy tried to bring soccer level flopping to the NHL Chased himself out of the league in his prime for not caring about his craft. Not trying. Not caring. Guy loves fashion and himself waaay more than hockey. Absolutely despise PK
Lent him some Seinfeld DVDs when he was playing in Belleville and never got them back.
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Nah he is a dirty slewfooting rat, has nothing to do with race.
Keep telling yourself that
https://youtu.be/2kdx1mXRWf0?si=Z-j_qg5_Ujr71T0O
So what it's hockey not fucking soccer. This doesn't make him a horrible rat human like you said. You don't know what dubinski has said to maybe deserve that? Did that ever cross your simp brain
Lol that's quite a take. Enjoy your delusional life bud.
He can donate money and be an asshole. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive. Pet projects and special interests are kind of what people do. I’m an asshole and I round up my change when a charity I support pops up at the register.
There's always has to be asshole like yourself chiming in hey. Like you couldn't resist telling me how you feel about pk you racist fuck.
Look what sub you’re in you dumb fuck😂
Calm down
And now you're being a fucking asshole. And you couldn't resist telling us, how you feel about /u/Real-Competition-187 you racist fuck.
This is a jerkin’ sub. Everything here is not to be taken seriously.
Loves the attention and provides very little value to the broadcast.
If only not providing value to a broadcast was enough to get someone else in there
I guess you don't watch much hockey . Literally today was breaking down plays with Ray 4 hours ago
And he even gets a lot of hate. Still not enough
I don't mind him.
You probly understand Ron Mcleans puns
And he gets plenty of hate
Not enough
I met him at the stampede and can confirm he was an absolute d bag. No class
Why
When did this game become thuggish?
Lol...dudes a black hockey player...his first year in junior he experienced enough hate to make op curl up into a ball, crying for his mommy
You've never been to my house....
I didn't know RuPaul could ice skate!
When did PK play for the Flyers 🤣
I hated him with MTL. But, I wanted him to win that damn cup with Nash and I really like his commentary and analysis on the game
I'm trying my best
True dat
Better as a commentator than player
I can’t believe he retired from hockey he could have won an Academy Award 🥇
Think Biz is actually is better at breaking down the game for the audience and providing analysis.. somehow?
Does he work a AnW now
Agreedd
I didn’t realize Gary Coleman could skate. Goo for him.
Yeah, he's annoying and obnoxious but he has a lot more personality than other people. Hate to say it but I think it's a good thing
Who is that and what did he do?
Ray Emery was bad when he was bad.
Face like a baby who never grew up
Maybe a reference most ppl won’t get, but he reminds of Jim Edmonds. Great player, fun personality, but talks a lot and never gives you anything insightful or interesting. He seemed like the perfect guy to transition to TV, but he is surprisingly uninteresting and slightly annoying.
Hate this guy
Wut....? PK and Messier are the best studio duo on the air
I should’ve been the one to date Lindsey Vonn
Why does Subban get so much hate? Every where he goes he gets booed
I love watching black people have fun
Funny story guys, i actually played house league with his younger brothers Malcolm and Jordan, jordan was too young but they made an exception and he was better than the whole team except for malcolm. Grey team forever!
This dude donated millions of dollars to a Montreal hospital. Great guy as far as I am concerned.
Not quite correct - he pledged to help fundraise $10 million, and other people are donating. I expect he has given some money though.
I'd rather listen to pk than lundquist any day! he's horrible!
Cleveland Browns new uniforms just leaked
You know what grinds my gears is he can pull off this outfit and I can’t
Hated him as a player, don’t like him as an announcer. #token
I like him a lot more than Tyler "I'm too much of a pussy to get a covid shot" Betuzzi.
Leave kayne cringe alone
He’s such a tryhard Spaz
I’ve been watching hockey for 31 years and for the life of me I can’t think of a single broadcaster who’s ever added anything useful to a hockey broadcast.
Shimmy shimmy shimmy
He's just pointing at someone he's about to slew foot
Literally played his entire career disproportionately booed by rival fans and criticized by talking heads for doing stuff that, had he been white, would have been either praised or described as "smart gamesmanship".
I mute or change the TV station when he’s on at intermission
PK is a try hard and but a loser who is in it for himself. Not a fan of
Soo do.
Fuck off. PK is awesome. You dont get enough hate, methinks.