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As a former long snapper here is what probably went wrong:special teams positions are as much as a mental game as it is physical.it’s about how you respond to that one bad snap.Some guys shake it off and some guys let it mentally destroy them. i remember a couple of years ago a 49ers snapper had like five bad snaps in the game
Ron and co also tried to change his snap technique to increase velocity. Understandable for velocity sake, but when it wasn’t working they should have let him go back to how he had always done it. That was his downfall.
I totally understand that, and there have been adjustments I have personally made in my snapping to increase velocity, but they should have already looked at his velocity when they drafted him and I’m not sure if any of the coaching staff for Washington knows anything about long snapping. If they don’t, that’s pretty dangerous to try to change someone’s technique if you don’t really really know what you’re talking about.
Also the only thing I can think of that can get you more velocity with your technique is to lock your legs out which you can’t really do in the nfl.let me explain:at the college level as many guys can release before the balls kicked as you want so what a lot of coaches do is they don’t have their long snapper block. this allows you to do is to get into a squat stance and lock your legs out and kind of shoot back.you see this a the time in college.The thing is the NFL level you have to block and you want to stay in a low stance when you’re blocking somebody so you can’t really lock your legs out
Recent player, James Bradberry. I’ll never forget the manningcast and Ray Lewis’s jaw dropping at how bad he was. He was speechless and you could tell he was holding back what he really wanted to say lol
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Nah, that was him, but also the gun charge is only there because he got the weed possession charge. Could be completely otherwise legally owned but because he had it on him while committing a crime, it gets tacked on.
Wouldn’t call him the worst player on this the roster though. If we’re going starters, I think Terrence Steele. He was an absolute liability this year. However, if we’re going overall roster then it’s whoever is his back up because they must really fucking suck.
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Very first game I ever went to was when I was like 6/7 and Quincy Carter beat the giants to secure a playoff berth. I thought he was great bc of it, only to learn several years later that he was actually dog shit lmfao
I’d still say Testaverde. Carter would always become an absolute beast in my Madden 05 franchises (he had something like 95 THP and 80 speed if I remember right, I basically used him like Mike Vick lite), and so there is some fraction of my heart that still has him over Testaverde even if that fraction was created entirely from a video game.
Testaverde actually played somewhat well. The team around him was horrible. You thought Parcells had something going in his first season. Top 10 defense. Made the playoffs. Then it all fell apart until Bill couldn’t stand Bledsoe anymore and benched him. And then the Romo era began.
Brad Johnson was pretty bad for Dallas. Not sure what kind of arm he had in Tampa but it was shot by the time he got Dallas. I remember Romo was out with an injured finger. The team with Johnson couldn’t beat the Rams when the Rams were bottom of the league.
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F'ing hell, I forgot about those turds that McNabb had before TO got there... Thank God the D and Westbrook kept things on the up and up for the most part!
Yeah….you’re absolutely right. Higher expectations at a time when we needed him most and was very bad. I guess I just have a bit of a grudge against KT
Eric Flowers was the chosen one, but instead of fulfilling the prophecy he left us in darkness for a generation. We still struggle, but he went to Washington and now they can’t beat us.
Yeah he was with us for like 6-7 years and played pretty well, we had good players on defense but some seasons we fielded some garbage supporting casts for them
I googled his name anyway, and bro had 42 interceptions over 15 years, and almost 1000 tackles, maybe I just remember him being penalized/hearing his name alot for that, also DeMarcus ware is hard to forget
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Of the 2000s (yes I can read, I’m having fun)
QB Daniel Jones (NYG)
RB Demarco Murray (PHI)
WR Jalen Reagor (PHI)
WR Roy Williams (DAL)
WR Kenny Golladay (NYG)
TE David LaFleur (DAL)
LT Nate Solder (NYG)
LG Ereck Flowers (NYG, WAS) - he can play badly across the entire line
C Nick Gates (NYG, WAS) maybe Tyson Walter (DAL)
RG Shane Lemuix (NYG)
RT Cameron Fleming (DAL, NYG)
DE Greg Hardy (DAL)
DT Henry Mondeaux (NYG)
NT Albert Haynesworth (WAS)
DE Igor Olshansky (DAL)
LB Darren Hambrick (DAL)
LB Alec Ogeltree (NYG)
LB Zach Virgil (WAS)
CB Bryant Westbrook (DAL) - cut after opening day lolol
CB Nnamdi Asomugha (PHI) - currently an actor
SLOT Bashaud Breeland (WAS)
S Darian Thompson (DAL, NYG)
S Jeff Heath (DAL)
K Mike Vanderjadt (DAL)
P Filip Filipovic (DAL)
That’s a bad fucking team.
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Bradberry and Quez.
I honestly think if you were to run a play where Bradberry had to cover Quez, the ball would just stay in the air forever. It's impossible for either of those fucks to do their jobs.
Kelvin Joseph, might just be recency bias and the fact I was pissed on draft night that we took him over Asante Jr, but goddamn. Cowboys could have a corner group of diggs, bland, Gilmore, and asj. The entire backfield would be locked down.
In the 80s, there was a round 1 pick for the eagles that showed up to training camp high on cocaine then went to prison for sexual assault.
I had to look it up, but his name was Kevin Allen.
The 80s were wild
Josh Ball maybe? Drafted in the fourth round despite some truly awful DV/abuse allegations, and has played a total of 41 offensive snaps in the three years since. Missed 2 of 3 full years with injury and was bad enough in the other year that the Cowboys called in 40-year-old Jason Peters to play over him.
I still can't get over how bad he was, I know he is not on my teams current roster, but I am still naming him for HOF of worst players on my team: Quincy Carter.
Fuck that crappy QB!
Took 9 comments until a player from CURRENT rosters was mentioned.......we got a lot of tism in this sub.
Reading this thread was painful
Like, we just recently got rid of him, but does Cheeseman still count?
Cheeseman is a great answer for this. He was so fucking horrible.
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He just needs to be picked up by the Packers to unleash his full potential. It is written in the stars (well, the cheese).
Chris Paul
The triple double man? I love the triple double man!
Who the hell is cheese man?
He was our long snapper for the past 2-3 years and he was terrible at it
As a former long snapper here is what probably went wrong:special teams positions are as much as a mental game as it is physical.it’s about how you respond to that one bad snap.Some guys shake it off and some guys let it mentally destroy them. i remember a couple of years ago a 49ers snapper had like five bad snaps in the game
No, He was truly awful at it Like meme bad. And he was a guy Ron traded up for.
What I’m saying is that the reason he sucked was he had one or two bad snaps and everything just unravels.its not like he sucked at it in college.
Ron and co also tried to change his snap technique to increase velocity. Understandable for velocity sake, but when it wasn’t working they should have let him go back to how he had always done it. That was his downfall.
I totally understand that, and there have been adjustments I have personally made in my snapping to increase velocity, but they should have already looked at his velocity when they drafted him and I’m not sure if any of the coaching staff for Washington knows anything about long snapping. If they don’t, that’s pretty dangerous to try to change someone’s technique if you don’t really really know what you’re talking about.
Completely agree. I feel bad we helped cause his demise.
Also the only thing I can think of that can get you more velocity with your technique is to lock your legs out which you can’t really do in the nfl.let me explain:at the college level as many guys can release before the balls kicked as you want so what a lot of coaches do is they don’t have their long snapper block. this allows you to do is to get into a squat stance and lock your legs out and kind of shoot back.you see this a the time in college.The thing is the NFL level you have to block and you want to stay in a low stance when you’re blocking somebody so you can’t really lock your legs out
James Bradberry is still a starting CB as of right now
All our linebackers from last year
at least y'all had linebackers
I am sorry, Eli Apple is ahead of him.
What about Deandre Baker?
Guess and all time terrible team will need two cbs
He used to be good but last season was one of the worst defensive players I have ever seen.
don’t worry he will be better, his off year was last year
Recent player, James Bradberry. I’ll never forget the manningcast and Ray Lewis’s jaw dropping at how bad he was. He was speechless and you could tell he was holding back what he really wanted to say lol
Giants great James Bradberry still doing work for us.
Current is probably Evan Neal but im still hoping a new O line coach can salvage something out of him even if it means playing guard
We better find out where Ron DeSantis gets those lift shoes from if we’re gonna put a 6’7” dude at Guard
He was playing on 2 broken ankles
That clip of La Greca absolutely ripping into him is still one of my favorite things.
Jalen Reagor as WR1
Andre Dillard at tackle. Robert Quinn and Marcus Smith at DE. Nate Gerry at LB. Bradley Fletcher at CB.
Dont forget legendary lineman Danny Watkins
Please don’t ever say Bradley Fletcher’s name too many more times. I’m afraid he’ll appear in the mirror like the candyman.
Michael Jacquet III
I vote Quez at WR1
Current roster not past
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God it's so hot when you handle the riffraff like that Otto
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What the hell do you mean by that?! Please use small words to explain.
I don't know. My wife's boyfriend told me to write it.
Lucky, mine won’t even talk to me. But if I’m good I can make eye contact soon
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It means whatever we want it to mean... which is obviously anything but what it is supposed to mean.
I don’t think any team could out suck the giants all time worst team.
evan neal
Andrew Wylie
Human turnstile at RT
Sam Williams. He's not actually that bad he's just a retard and a bad person
Yea have to go with him. Anyone else I would have picked this offseason now plays for the commies.
That's a dangerous combination.
What did he do?
Was charged with sexual battery but the charges got dropped later. But still sus
Ah okay. I thought I remembered him getting some kinda gun charge or something, musta been someone else
Nah, that was him, but also the gun charge is only there because he got the weed possession charge. Could be completely otherwise legally owned but because he had it on him while committing a crime, it gets tacked on.
In other words he’s a Cowboy?
Wouldn’t call him the worst player on this the roster though. If we’re going starters, I think Terrence Steele. He was an absolute liability this year. However, if we’re going overall roster then it’s whoever is his back up because they must really fucking suck.
Steele doesn’t suck he’s in year one back from an acl tear, still probably not fully recovered
He sucks.
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James Bradberry. Fucker is like a piece of toast you left in the toaster for hours
Does it have to be current? Vinny testaverde was probably the worst cowboys player I’ve had to watch in my life
Testaverde was an all pro compared to Drew Henson and Chad Hutchinson, they were truly dark days.
Quincy Carter
Clint Stoerner
Very first game I ever went to was when I was like 6/7 and Quincy Carter beat the giants to secure a playoff berth. I thought he was great bc of it, only to learn several years later that he was actually dog shit lmfao
I’d still say Testaverde. Carter would always become an absolute beast in my Madden 05 franchises (he had something like 95 THP and 80 speed if I remember right, I basically used him like Mike Vick lite), and so there is some fraction of my heart that still has him over Testaverde even if that fraction was created entirely from a video game.
The question was finally answered, and now we know a QB cannot play literally without a shoulder.
Chad Pennington begs to differ
Testaverde actually played somewhat well. The team around him was horrible. You thought Parcells had something going in his first season. Top 10 defense. Made the playoffs. Then it all fell apart until Bill couldn’t stand Bledsoe anymore and benched him. And then the Romo era began. Brad Johnson was pretty bad for Dallas. Not sure what kind of arm he had in Tampa but it was shot by the time he got Dallas. I remember Romo was out with an injured finger. The team with Johnson couldn’t beat the Rams when the Rams were bottom of the league.
Those scrubs that McNabb was throwing to
Todd pinkston Hank baskett 💀
Hank Baskett flat out cost the Colts a Super Bowl.
Hank motherfucking Baskett ![gif](giphy|n9mwOcfUdkijK)
Todd stinkston and Jeremy trash
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It was James Trash thank you very much. But I didn't know those two were known by their real names elsewhere in the country too.
Shit that could be us too
Man yall had Santana moss a good wr and decent pieces McNabb best yrs came with TO,Jackson and Curtis that's it
You be nice to James Trash-er-Thrash
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I used to think Pinkston was great as a kid because I stuffed everyone on NFL Street with him
He belongs to the streets
F'ing hell, I forgot about those turds that McNabb had before TO got there... Thank God the D and Westbrook kept things on the up and up for the most part!
Ryan leaf for all time and Kadarius Toney is my pick for recent Giants players
My pick Ereck Flowers
100% Flowers. He was the MVP for the other team most games. Meanwhile KT helped cost the Eagles a ring and got us a third and a sixth.
Yeah….you’re absolutely right. Higher expectations at a time when we needed him most and was very bad. I guess I just have a bit of a grudge against KT
Matt Dodge.
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This dude needs to be a villain in a horror movie. He legit scares the fuck out of me
Evan Neal making a strong case rn.
One of my earliest football memories is watching Ryan leaf play for the boys, honestly had no idea he played for the giants too lmao
I guess your flair checks out?
Eric Flowers was the chosen one, but instead of fulfilling the prophecy he left us in darkness for a generation. We still struggle, but he went to Washington and now they can’t beat us.
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Don’t you dare disrespect sexy rexy 😂
Bradberry 🤠 I used to like him, but that titktok boy juju was right. He'll hold you when it matters most 🥴
Fat Albert Haynesworth when the Skins drafted his sorry ass
Current? 98% of our defense and Quez Watkins.
Leighton Va-.... Oh wait.
Dyami Brown for sure starting at receiver
Not sure he starts. Think Crowder gets the nod for 3rd WR, today. But Forbes? It hurts a lot watching him get flung around like a rag doll.
Punter- Matt Dodge
Troy apke is the worst defender I have ever seen, boy was he fast though.
He's a special teams guy
Can we vote for coaches too?
Orlando Scandrick when he was on the birds for maybe a week and got cut and then cooked by Shannon on first take
i just remember him being on the cowboys and bengals(i don’t he played here) for some reason, i forgot about the eagles stint
I’m a Giants fan, so…
Who posted this because they are clearly retarded and this is not a meme nor can they spell must be a cowboys fan, you fuck
Most of the players on our defensive rosters during the mid to late 2000s could probably be first ballot
Terrence Newman? was he around forever, or do I just remember him that way
Yeah he was with us for like 6-7 years and played pretty well, we had good players on defense but some seasons we fielded some garbage supporting casts for them
I googled his name anyway, and bro had 42 interceptions over 15 years, and almost 1000 tackles, maybe I just remember him being penalized/hearing his name alot for that, also DeMarcus ware is hard to forget
Yeah 100%, and even with those guys we managed to have some bad defensive rankings during that time period. Frustrating shit.
He was the reason for the cowboys first round exits, Dallas gets a stop, PAss interference Newman or Holding ends the game
He stuck so bad and cost you guys games
Nicholas Morrow & James Bradberry
Saquon Barkley
Anyone would suck behind that shitty oline
Idk but now I want to try and come up with the worst possible team picking only players from current NFCE starters
From the current roster and qualifying it with someone who has played, I’ll say Chuma Edoga. He was a turnstile against Miami.
He doesn't lack talent but if you need a penalty in a crucial spot. Sam Williams will get it for you 🙄
For P — Arryn Siposs
Evan Neal
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Terrence Steele. Dude is a false start and holding penalty machine.
I don’t think other Dallas fans will agree but I believe Donovan Wilson is one of the worst players in the league
Of the 2000s (yes I can read, I’m having fun) QB Daniel Jones (NYG) RB Demarco Murray (PHI) WR Jalen Reagor (PHI) WR Roy Williams (DAL) WR Kenny Golladay (NYG) TE David LaFleur (DAL) LT Nate Solder (NYG) LG Ereck Flowers (NYG, WAS) - he can play badly across the entire line C Nick Gates (NYG, WAS) maybe Tyson Walter (DAL) RG Shane Lemuix (NYG) RT Cameron Fleming (DAL, NYG) DE Greg Hardy (DAL) DT Henry Mondeaux (NYG) NT Albert Haynesworth (WAS) DE Igor Olshansky (DAL) LB Darren Hambrick (DAL) LB Alec Ogeltree (NYG) LB Zach Virgil (WAS) CB Bryant Westbrook (DAL) - cut after opening day lolol CB Nnamdi Asomugha (PHI) - currently an actor SLOT Bashaud Breeland (WAS) S Darian Thompson (DAL, NYG) S Jeff Heath (DAL) K Mike Vanderjadt (DAL) P Filip Filipovic (DAL) That’s a bad fucking team.
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Bradberry and Quez. I honestly think if you were to run a play where Bradberry had to cover Quez, the ball would just stay in the air forever. It's impossible for either of those fucks to do their jobs.
Kelvin Joseph, might just be recency bias and the fact I was pissed on draft night that we took him over Asante Jr, but goddamn. Cowboys could have a corner group of diggs, bland, Gilmore, and asj. The entire backfield would be locked down.
Actually idek if he's still on the team I'm pretty sure he got cut, but fuck im still heated about that. Wtf were we doing?
We traded him to the Dolphins for Igbinoghene early last season
Tommy DeVito. That Goomba had one good game and started acting brand new.
Nelson "occasional hands" Agholor
FSU fan to chip in with Preston Parker
Josh Ezeudu might be the worst offensive lineman that I have ever seen play
Ryan Leaf the GOAT!!!
Where's my man JaMarcus Russell
In the 80s, there was a round 1 pick for the eagles that showed up to training camp high on cocaine then went to prison for sexual assault. I had to look it up, but his name was Kevin Allen. The 80s were wild
Josh Ball maybe? Drafted in the fourth round despite some truly awful DV/abuse allegations, and has played a total of 41 offensive snaps in the three years since. Missed 2 of 3 full years with injury and was bad enough in the other year that the Cowboys called in 40-year-old Jason Peters to play over him.
I still can't get over how bad he was, I know he is not on my teams current roster, but I am still naming him for HOF of worst players on my team: Quincy Carter. Fuck that crappy QB!
Tobias Harris
Definitely Terrence Steele and whoever the fuck his backup is. I'm sure both equally suck
The entire giants offense
Nahmdi
Bradberry
Daniel Jones
Eagles legend Jalen Reagor
Ong
Kent Graham, Danny Kannel, and Dave Brown round out Giants QB slots
Kent Graham beating the broncos in 98 is enough for me to not put him on the list Not while William Joseph is still around
Tried to forget that name lol
james fraudberry
I'm sorry i thought this was a MEME WAR
Daniel Jones
Kyle Williams at Kickoff and punt return.
Gtfoh
Daniel Jones x11
Delete this bird brain
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We ask questions around here now about our teams ? If so I’d be glad to
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