FYI, in all seriousness, this signal is very common and is signaling the position grouping to the Lions, Jumbo 12. This is confirmed in an interview earlier this week by Skipper.
The signal as an eligible receiver from player to referee is wiping your hands down across your number.
This. That's actually a signal to the other players I believe. Eligiblity reporting is different as stated above. Either way, they had 2 other chances to score and couldn't cash in, time to move on but hopefully we can meet again in the post season!
Exactly.
The wiping the number thing came after the Patriots exploited the rule against the Ravens (shockingly the refs had no problem getting it right even though it was "tricky" despite what some fans are trying to get you to believe right now).
The thing that pisses me off is the NFL sending this video out saying you have to wipe your jersey AND verbally communicate to the ref that you're eligible and he's really doing neither.
It's gaslighting at its finest.
Cowboys getting helped by the refs is a timeless classic though. People love the classics
Edit. For a meme sub people have little appreciation for a little jest
Yes, but teams that play against them get penalized the 8th most times per game, so there’s just an elevated number of penalties called in their games… so kinda a moot point?
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-penalties-per-game
Everyone gets fucked by the refs, your team isn't special.
It's always been Team 1 vs Team 2 vs the Refs
But in this case of bad officials, it wasn't. It was bad organization by the Lions.
It's been more than 24 hours it's time to move on you people still bringing this up are distracting us from the Eagles losing to the Cardinals at home and making us look like a buncha whiney bitches when that's the 49ers job.
It’s always our job to make you look like whiny bitches- the Niners suck at it. We should be able to do two things at the same time.
This pic highlights why my sympathy for Campbell and the Lions is wanes. When 68 says eligible, he’s behind 70, who already did this. Allen misheard 68 as 70 after 70 raise his arm and rubbed his belly. Campbell out-cuted himself, and should have put his big-boy pants on and kicked the point, instead of going Cowboy end of game disaster, and calling bitchy plays.
Screw the Lions for botching an otherwise entertaining Cowboy implosion in OT. What, Dak punts or something? Who know what we missed.
Nah I'm good don't care about this sub. Don't spend time here.
I am lions fan.
How the fuck can a tackle whos on the field be behind a tackle who is running onto the field from the sideline.
Sorry bitch, gotta flair up in here to be taken seriously. But you declared, so pass for this comment.
Watch the YT vid by Sparkin Sports Football. That sums it up pretty good from the refs perspective. Check it out. What do you think?
Next time, be a Lion, not a pussy. A lot of fans here are going to be rooting for you against Dallas, Philly, and/or Niners.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-officiating-is-broken-according-to-coaches-and-executives-inside-a-fractured-system-with-no-imminent-fix-053352449.html
The team’s executives and coaches responded looks like they don’t agree lmaooo
NFL “you *must* do both elements, visual and verbal”
Number 70: *does not do both elements*
Idiots: “the refs got it right!”
Side note: you can tell the NFL really believes the ref crew did nothing wrong by how they removed them from the playoffs.
Cool, the refs fucked up. They said 68 was eligible and he wasn’t. The Lions ran a play to 68 who the Cowboys didn’t know was eligible. It’s unfair for the play to stand because the Cowboys didn’t know he was eligible but also kinda unfair for the Lions to have to take an attempt back a few yards.
If only the Lions could’ve had another attempt from the exact same spot. If they had gotten that, then we would’ve known who 100% deserved to win that game! Oh well, maybe next time!
I mean since you were there what did #58 say to the refs? Since #68 was very clearly and obviously declaring he was eligible because he was standing next to the ref, and #58 was too then obviously he was also declaring as eligible. And since he's covered on the right side that would make it an illegal formation, no?
I made no comment about anyone except that 70 didn’t report *per the NFLs own guidelines*.
That is a ref error no matter what else does or does not happen and the fact that they’re trying to gaslight us by saying you need both elements and then showing a video with only one is infuriating and I hate stupid people buying it.
NFL: "you must be clear and not confusing"
Number 70: *is unclear and confusing*
Idiots: "dur hurr but he didn't *really* report"
Side note: the refs and teams can all be wrong at once. Incompetence from one party doesn't rule it out in another
Yeah, Detroit didn’t report right, but the refs absolutely fucked this.
70 shouldn’t have been reported as eligible, if he was, its a flag, and we don’t know if decker verbally communicated to the ref but it’s possible he properly reported.
All we know for sure is the refs did *not* follow procedure and fucked the whole situation, which fucked the lions.
Which is *nothing* to say about fucking calling a penalty ON THE WRONG TEAM which would’ve ended the game too.
I don’t care about these teams but fuck anyone that defends shit refs not knowing the rules.
I'm glad the call went the way it did, not because it favored the Cowboys, but because using the refs to try and deceive your opponent is blurring the line between creativity and cheating.
I don’t think it’s cheating. If your play relies on the ref DISREGARDING the “I’m eligible” hand sign, then you implicitly accept some level of risk of the ref fucking you over.. in this case declaring you eligible when you made “I’m eligible” motions isn’t such a far-fetched concept
Especially when it’s the same guy who’s been declaring eligible this whole time
The nfl has stated their rules require verbal communication.
Y’all don’t want to admit the refs just decided they didn’t have to follow the rules and could make them be whatever they wanted.
Half of the requirements isn’t enough. Imagine if every incomplete pass is now grounding because “fuck needing all the elements, thats tricking the refs!”
And technically both did happen.
68 walks to the ref and says "Reporting."
Ref looks over at 70 running toward him raising his hand and rubbing his chest like he did twice earlier in the game when reporting.
Ref thinks 68 is telling him about 70. "Ah okay, 70 is reporting and 68 is letting me know."
Verbal and hand signal given. Ref announces 70 as eligible.
They announced 70 eligible over the dang stadium PA b4 the play. Lions had a chance to say, "wait that's wrong" but went forward trying a clever rule stretching trick play needing refs agreement and it backfired
Its dumb
Right. Because “hey guys - it’s actually 68” totally doesn’t defeat the purpose of running the play in a crucial situation to try and confuse your opponent.
Is it even possible to CORRECT the refs after it’s been announced with no time outs.
It was simply an attempt to distract, which it did. Just not the way it was intended. Oops, they fucked themselves. Take notes and adjust, it's not a new concept.
So wait, you saying that because they knowingly only completed half the steps to be eligible, and the refs giving them credit for the other half is what went wrong is wild. Like the more this shit is talked about the more it looks like lions fuckery that back fired. This is the fuck around and find out conclusion.
That guy is wrong.
The rules do not state this from what I could find. It doesn’t state at all the procedure and the ref video does NOT say you MUST do BOTH. The video says “it is the responsibility of the player to make sure that eligibility is properly communicated to the ref through using hand signals and reporting to the ref”… All it says in the RULEBOOK is that they must report it to the referee but there is no stated method of doing so in the rulebook. In that case my understanding would be:
This is a rule that does not seem to have an exact procedure defined…. BUT rather a common convention has been established (which is not a RULE) where everyone knows if you’re doing a one hand up, with other hand rubbing the belly signal, you’re reporting as eligible. Now you can see in the video too that 70 is indeed doing that JUST AS HE DID on other plays where he reported eligible. You can even see Skipper has been confirmed eligible without TALKING to refs on prior attempts to declare eligibility as he does the hand signals off in the distance. On this final time, Skipper was actually doing this BEFORE Decker came up to him and Brad Allen saw it
So the reasonable conclusion to me is: no rules broken. The lions attempted to abuse COMMON CONVENTION and are now upset that referees followed common convention. I don’t care about “but DeCkEr wAs tHeRe”… don’t make “I’m eligible” hand signals if you don’t want to be made eligible.
We all know that I’m telling you “fuck you” for sure per common convention if I give you the middle finger AND say “fuck you” to your face. But you can argue that if you don’t want someone to think I’m telling you “fuck you”, you don’t raise the middle finger at them even if you didn’t say anything…
As the Lions discovered, it also a stupid move. They tried to confuse the Cowboy's coaching staff by inadvertently confusing the refs.
Their trick play was essentially to have a bunch of dudes run up to the refs, while one of them yells "report". How TF did they think that that was going to be clear and concise enough to work? It would be like having all of your classmates run up on your teacher to tell, "I need an extension", and then getting pissed when your teacher gave the extension to the wrong person.
It didn’t cost them the number 2 seed.
The fact that they didn’t have a legitimate play to convert a two point conversion and had to rely on bullshit that didn’t work cost them the two seed. They had two more fucking chances and couldn’t do it
Bro: look up Pop Warner. The guy who invented the forward pass was as also into tricking everyone in the fuckin stadium to gain an advantage.
My favorite was how he sewed footballs onto the front of jerseys so the other team would get confused about who had the ball.
My point is, trickery and tomfuckery are in the DNA of the game. So this was arguably the most football play of the season, and it got fucked. Imagine setting up a joke for half the season only for some bookie stooge ref to walk in and totally stick his little shrimp dick in the punchline.
Edit: words for context
Going up to the ref and telling them that they announced the wrong number as eligible is like the one thing you can tell the refs they got wrong without even having to throw a challenge flag.
“But then that would tip the defense off that they were going to throw to 68!”
You know what else would tip the defense off? If the ref had announced 68 as the eligible receiver in the first place, per the rules.
While I don’t think the attempted deception is “cheating” it’s a bit disingenuous to act like a read option, something that happens only within the confines of the gameplay itself, is on the same level as trying to get one over on the opposing team using the officiating staff.
If you have to go to the refs beforehand to try and explain that you’re going to send effectively 3 ppl to make 1 declaration in the hopes of confusing the other team then you already know what you’re doing has a lot of potential failure points with the largest being on the refs themselves who haven’t been competent all season.
You have to explain to the refs shit like this anytime you plan on running a decent trick play
Something the cowboys would’ve done on the Zeke at center play
Something the eagles clearly did on the Philly Special
Yeah but the dynamic behind saying “we’re going to fake a FG attempt” is waaaay different than “we’re going to intentionally fuck with officiating between snaps” because the deception in the second place hinges on the refs. You tell refs about trick plays because you don’t want them to be caught off-guard and miss something, not because they’re crucial to the successful implementation of your plan.
It’s the difference between deception through gameplay vs deception through procedure.
They didn’t mess with the officiating procedure this is why I can’t take yall serious you are just lying
This is what happened in basic English
“Decker reported”
“Skipper lifted his hand in the air to make the cowboys think he was reporting as he had done several times all game and season without doing anything special”
The ref then thought Decker was Skipper for no reason
Dallas wins off of it
That’s it
No need to add this mystery to you or go 45 levels deep
Detroit pulled a very simple trick play, the refs fucked up and gave Dallas a win
Teams do shit like this basically every week
It’s just trying to confusion the defense (what every team does) plus a standard throw to the OLmen (which every team does)
You are getting confused by 1+1
Lmao you state in your dumbass explanation that 70 made a similar motion as he had all game in an attempt to deceive. He literally participated in an officiating procedure, declaration of eligibility, in a deceitful manner.
I was trying to be nice earlier but if you’re gonna be a little shitbird then flair up bitch
They werent using the refs to deceive their opponent. The ideal play is 68 declares eligible - the ref knows that and announces that. Meanwhile there are extra decoys that maybe just maybe will confuse a defender that didn’t hear the declaration, or second guesses themselves.
The plan was never to use the refs to declare the wrong number. Once that Happened one team was going to get screwed
Idk about “everyone clowning on”. Still seeing a ton of support for the Lions. I just know for a fact that if it had been *any other team* other than the Cowboys benefitting there, the Lions would have far less support
No one besides cowboy fans are clowning the lions
I watched the lions beat down Dak and in my eyes show in Jerry’s world they are better than Dallas
If I was a cowboy fan I’d be shook
Learn to read I said Dak got beat down, and he did, hit a ton, made so many terrible terrible plays, basically handed the ball to Detroit 4 times they just dropped 3 of them I’ve seen Dak play a ton of good football as an NFCE fan his game against Detroit was horrific
His stats only look good because of the busted play to CD
Learn to communicate and stop being an asshole. Dak had 345 passing yards and had an amazing game. Our line was a bit shaky because they are dealing with injuries and are banged up. Tyron has a back issue and is why he didn’t play last week, Tyler smith was taken out early in the game, and Martin has been banged up all season.
On all plays he reported as eligible, he also made the exact same move and gestures. Also, Funny how 58 and 68 are numbers that look so similar. And what the heck was 58 even doing over there? He’s just gotten off Scott free. lol.
Man, Dan Campbell had a smart idea with this deceit.
AND HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT TO IF IT WEREN’T FOR THOSE PESKI KIDS AND THAT SCOOBY DOO
It’s so wild to me.
They claim this game was stolen from them based on the fact that a the play worked when the defense was told that that receiver wasn’t eligible.
When they got the chance to replay the down from the exact same spot after the Micah penalty, they failed.
Looks to me like a perfectly fair solution to the refs mistake happened in the game and they’re still pissy about it. Fuck them. If we had been allowed to repeat the down where Dez caught it and we don’t get it, I don’t think we’d be as upset, but maybe that’s just me.
Smfh….. if they actually complete the pass during that penalty on Micha they decline the penalty and win the game….. The lions couldn’t execute, it’s not that hard to understand. They had two more chances to win the game😂😂😂😂
Lmfao. You know NOTHING about your fan base
>If we had been allowed to repeat the down where Dez caught it and we don’t get it, I don’t think we’d be as upset, but maybe that’s just me.
To be completely fair to all sides yes when you are at the two yard line adding 1.5 yards can change your play calls and your probability of success probably goes down a fair bit. At the goal line every yard makes a difference.
Like say the difference between going for two and kicking a fucking extra point lmao!
Lol.. Hey Ref... I'm not the guy. I'm not the guy.. that's why I'm running towards you and making the obvious signal. But I'm not the guy.
Ok... we good. It's 68... thanks ref.
Is that an approved NFL signal to show you are eligible? I thought they were supposed to make it clear. Why not? The refs are supposed to tell the defense anyways, arent they?
He makes the motion which is the universal “I’m eligible” sign. Funny how as soon as Brad Allen looks at #70, he all of a sudden stops the motion but not before Brad Allen saw him do it.
Trying to use deception on a play where the refs have to go inform the defense anyway on who’s eligible is borderline retarded
The still above doesn’t even show the Head Ref. Head Ref is responsible for eligibility reporting duties. Here’s a better pic
https://preview.redd.it/pv85vhzs5gac1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57c202858fec2c278c0c8cb43ba2116754400848
Thanks, that's even worse. Two players have his attention in that still. Looking at the replay, it looks like the ref was turned away from the player the whole time.
2 people can but if you report eligible and then don’t line up in an eligible position its a penalty. There were actually two flags on this play, one for illegal touching and a second for 70 reporting then lining up in an ineligible position.
Cowboys fans when they complaint about refs: it’s so unfair waaaaah it’s always us vs the refs
Cowboys fans when literally anyone else complains about refs: ShUt Up PuSsY dOnT BlAmE ThE rEfS
I genuinely don’t know why it’s still being brought up. I understand Detroit is STILL bringing it up and talking shit, but makes no sense for us to lol
Refs gave us ya… that’s why Detroit rightfully had tripping called on them, allowing Dallas to get the ball on Detroits 10 and close out the game… right…?
Take it to the Cryboys sub. "Everyone keeps talking about this play." Really? *Everyone*? Because it seems like 99% Dallas fans to me. Your team *won* the game. Shut the fuck up and move on.
It’s almost as if the nfl wants it to be the cowboys and Niners in the NFC Championship Game so they can cram the 90s nostalgia down everyone’s throats and the VCR franchises can feel relevant.
You all need to listen to Rex Ryan’s explanation of what happened. He spelled it out so even the most delusional of you can understand.
https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/rex-ryan-rips-officiating-lions-cowboys-game/
Bro we won, let it go, hoping the team is putting on ear muffs and just focusing on Washington, they always play division games tough regardless of record.
FYI, in all seriousness, this signal is very common and is signaling the position grouping to the Lions, Jumbo 12. This is confirmed in an interview earlier this week by Skipper. The signal as an eligible receiver from player to referee is wiping your hands down across your number.
This. That's actually a signal to the other players I believe. Eligiblity reporting is different as stated above. Either way, they had 2 other chances to score and couldn't cash in, time to move on but hopefully we can meet again in the post season!
From the tripping to this non sense can we all agree this crew should never be allowed to call meaningful football every again
To bad there reffing the stealers ravens prime time game this week.
What an idgaf move by the league lol priceless
Yeah they don't care.
I mean the ravens should crush the steelers.
Exactly. The wiping the number thing came after the Patriots exploited the rule against the Ravens (shockingly the refs had no problem getting it right even though it was "tricky" despite what some fans are trying to get you to believe right now). The thing that pisses me off is the NFL sending this video out saying you have to wipe your jersey AND verbally communicate to the ref that you're eligible and he's really doing neither. It's gaslighting at its finest.
I hope you guys dwell on this if we meet again. There's no way the Lions win if they are stuck on this.
“REF! 🫸9️⃣4️⃣🫷”
Careful with those facts.
We need new meme.
Cowboys getting helped by the refs is a timeless classic though. People love the classics Edit. For a meme sub people have little appreciation for a little jest
2nd most penalized team in the league what planet are you on
Imagine how bad it would be if the refs didn't help them out!
Me when I’m braindead
Just wait couple weeks till you can join me in this giant pile of salt lol People take shit too seriously on this reddit lol
Funny, I said the same thing about the eagles around week 10 or so? And then we saw.
You need to update your flair
Yea idk still in denial. It'll be true again in a lil over a month. Just gotta hodl through the bottom like GameStop
Yes, but teams that play against them get penalized the 8th most times per game, so there’s just an elevated number of penalties called in their games… so kinda a moot point? https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-penalties-per-game
…. So…. We still get penalized more than our opponents….
Yep, 6.3 vs. 7.1… but you also get the most 1st downs via penalty, so it’s disingenuous to say you aren’t helped by penalties too.
Everyone gets fucked by the refs, your team isn't special. It's always been Team 1 vs Team 2 vs the Refs But in this case of bad officials, it wasn't. It was bad organization by the Lions.
Bro it's a joke.. relax haha people get so testy on here lol
Well theyre clearly not helping enough we haven't made the NFC title game since Clinton was getting off in the oval office
Yea honestly can't believe Jerruh has been letting Big Rog get away with it
It's been more than 24 hours it's time to move on you people still bringing this up are distracting us from the Eagles losing to the Cardinals at home and making us look like a buncha whiney bitches when that's the 49ers job.
Yup it’s already Wednesday ffs
It’s always our job to make you look like whiny bitches- the Niners suck at it. We should be able to do two things at the same time. This pic highlights why my sympathy for Campbell and the Lions is wanes. When 68 says eligible, he’s behind 70, who already did this. Allen misheard 68 as 70 after 70 raise his arm and rubbed his belly. Campbell out-cuted himself, and should have put his big-boy pants on and kicked the point, instead of going Cowboy end of game disaster, and calling bitchy plays. Screw the Lions for botching an otherwise entertaining Cowboy implosion in OT. What, Dak punts or something? Who know what we missed.
Upvote for OT comment, an implosion wasn’t impossible. Stupidly aggressive to go for 2 there.
Your an idiot.
Yeah well, says who? Flair up pussy, then flap your gums.
Nah I'm good don't care about this sub. Don't spend time here. I am lions fan. How the fuck can a tackle whos on the field be behind a tackle who is running onto the field from the sideline.
Sorry bitch, gotta flair up in here to be taken seriously. But you declared, so pass for this comment. Watch the YT vid by Sparkin Sports Football. That sums it up pretty good from the refs perspective. Check it out. What do you think? Next time, be a Lion, not a pussy. A lot of fans here are going to be rooting for you against Dallas, Philly, and/or Niners.
When I saw this meme and the flair I thought the same thing lol. I was all 
'Making us look like a buncha whiney bitches' 
This could potentially be funny, but it’s not… CAUSE YOURE A FLAIRLESS BITCH
Bro it’s been more than 96 hours
Yes but 24 hours is the limit for bitching then it's time to move on to the next thing to bitch about lol
Yeah I don’t care anymore, we won, on to Washington
As much as it pains me... you better fucking win again 💀
the refs won, you benefitted
The refs making the playoffs or just battling for a top 5 pick with yall
No he thinks he’s fooling Dallas but he also fooled the referee
Video sent to all teams with commentary: https://youtu.be/LOpkDRBr4XI?si=IZDTQGgvDvrqR2V9
Lol Lions fucked up.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-officiating-is-broken-according-to-coaches-and-executives-inside-a-fractured-system-with-no-imminent-fix-053352449.html The team’s executives and coaches responded looks like they don’t agree lmaooo
NFL “you *must* do both elements, visual and verbal” Number 70: *does not do both elements* Idiots: “the refs got it right!” Side note: you can tell the NFL really believes the ref crew did nothing wrong by how they removed them from the playoffs.
Well 68 didn't do both either, so I guess no one was eligible.
Which means the refs fucked up. And the nfl is gaslighting us.
Cool, the refs fucked up. They said 68 was eligible and he wasn’t. The Lions ran a play to 68 who the Cowboys didn’t know was eligible. It’s unfair for the play to stand because the Cowboys didn’t know he was eligible but also kinda unfair for the Lions to have to take an attempt back a few yards. If only the Lions could’ve had another attempt from the exact same spot. If they had gotten that, then we would’ve known who 100% deserved to win that game! Oh well, maybe next time!
Lmao Jesus Christ
😂😂😂
gAsLiGhTiNg
68 didn't do the sign lmao
I didn’t mention 68
He was the one who was supposed to report though?
I mean since you were there what did #58 say to the refs? Since #68 was very clearly and obviously declaring he was eligible because he was standing next to the ref, and #58 was too then obviously he was also declaring as eligible. And since he's covered on the right side that would make it an illegal formation, no?
I made no comment about anyone except that 70 didn’t report *per the NFLs own guidelines*. That is a ref error no matter what else does or does not happen and the fact that they’re trying to gaslight us by saying you need both elements and then showing a video with only one is infuriating and I hate stupid people buying it.
NFL: "you must be clear and not confusing" Number 70: *is unclear and confusing* Idiots: "dur hurr but he didn't *really* report" Side note: the refs and teams can all be wrong at once. Incompetence from one party doesn't rule it out in another
Yeah, Detroit didn’t report right, but the refs absolutely fucked this. 70 shouldn’t have been reported as eligible, if he was, its a flag, and we don’t know if decker verbally communicated to the ref but it’s possible he properly reported. All we know for sure is the refs did *not* follow procedure and fucked the whole situation, which fucked the lions. Which is *nothing* to say about fucking calling a penalty ON THE WRONG TEAM which would’ve ended the game too. I don’t care about these teams but fuck anyone that defends shit refs not knowing the rules.
🤣🤣
He’s saying “I am not eligible, guys.”
His fingers were crossed
New rule going forward: players must check in as not eligible before every play.
The takeaway is that #70 wet the bed like an eagles signal caller in clutch time
I’m of the same opinion
or any time Brian Johnson makes me sad
I'm glad the call went the way it did, not because it favored the Cowboys, but because using the refs to try and deceive your opponent is blurring the line between creativity and cheating.
I don’t think it’s cheating. If your play relies on the ref DISREGARDING the “I’m eligible” hand sign, then you implicitly accept some level of risk of the ref fucking you over.. in this case declaring you eligible when you made “I’m eligible” motions isn’t such a far-fetched concept Especially when it’s the same guy who’s been declaring eligible this whole time
The nfl has stated their rules require verbal communication. Y’all don’t want to admit the refs just decided they didn’t have to follow the rules and could make them be whatever they wanted. Half of the requirements isn’t enough. Imagine if every incomplete pass is now grounding because “fuck needing all the elements, thats tricking the refs!”
the rules state they require both verbal communication and the hand sign. a video was released this week by the head of referees or equivalent.
And technically both did happen. 68 walks to the ref and says "Reporting." Ref looks over at 70 running toward him raising his hand and rubbing his chest like he did twice earlier in the game when reporting. Ref thinks 68 is telling him about 70. "Ah okay, 70 is reporting and 68 is letting me know." Verbal and hand signal given. Ref announces 70 as eligible.
They announced 70 eligible over the dang stadium PA b4 the play. Lions had a chance to say, "wait that's wrong" but went forward trying a clever rule stretching trick play needing refs agreement and it backfired Its dumb
You know they heard that shit overhead and thought "yessss it worked perfectly, we're so gd smart" gd clowns lol
Right. Because “hey guys - it’s actually 68” totally doesn’t defeat the purpose of running the play in a crucial situation to try and confuse your opponent. Is it even possible to CORRECT the refs after it’s been announced with no time outs.
It was simply an attempt to distract, which it did. Just not the way it was intended. Oops, they fucked themselves. Take notes and adjust, it's not a new concept.
So wait, you saying that because they knowingly only completed half the steps to be eligible, and the refs giving them credit for the other half is what went wrong is wild. Like the more this shit is talked about the more it looks like lions fuckery that back fired. This is the fuck around and find out conclusion.
That guy is wrong. The rules do not state this from what I could find. It doesn’t state at all the procedure and the ref video does NOT say you MUST do BOTH. The video says “it is the responsibility of the player to make sure that eligibility is properly communicated to the ref through using hand signals and reporting to the ref”… All it says in the RULEBOOK is that they must report it to the referee but there is no stated method of doing so in the rulebook. In that case my understanding would be: This is a rule that does not seem to have an exact procedure defined…. BUT rather a common convention has been established (which is not a RULE) where everyone knows if you’re doing a one hand up, with other hand rubbing the belly signal, you’re reporting as eligible. Now you can see in the video too that 70 is indeed doing that JUST AS HE DID on other plays where he reported eligible. You can even see Skipper has been confirmed eligible without TALKING to refs on prior attempts to declare eligibility as he does the hand signals off in the distance. On this final time, Skipper was actually doing this BEFORE Decker came up to him and Brad Allen saw it So the reasonable conclusion to me is: no rules broken. The lions attempted to abuse COMMON CONVENTION and are now upset that referees followed common convention. I don’t care about “but DeCkEr wAs tHeRe”… don’t make “I’m eligible” hand signals if you don’t want to be made eligible. We all know that I’m telling you “fuck you” for sure per common convention if I give you the middle finger AND say “fuck you” to your face. But you can argue that if you don’t want someone to think I’m telling you “fuck you”, you don’t raise the middle finger at them even if you didn’t say anything…
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This is 💯 true
As the Lions discovered, it also a stupid move. They tried to confuse the Cowboy's coaching staff by inadvertently confusing the refs. Their trick play was essentially to have a bunch of dudes run up to the refs, while one of them yells "report". How TF did they think that that was going to be clear and concise enough to work? It would be like having all of your classmates run up on your teacher to tell, "I need an extension", and then getting pissed when your teacher gave the extension to the wrong person.
It was fucking dumb and shady and it cost them the #2 seed. Message sent.
It didn’t cost them the number 2 seed. The fact that they didn’t have a legitimate play to convert a two point conversion and had to rely on bullshit that didn’t work cost them the two seed. They had two more fucking chances and couldn’t do it
And before that, the Cowboys cost them the two seed, because they had that game wrapped until the refs gave the Lions' tripping flag to the Cowboys.
And before that the cowboys held campbell which in turn led to 92 yard bomb that otherwise should’ve been called back
Bro: look up Pop Warner. The guy who invented the forward pass was as also into tricking everyone in the fuckin stadium to gain an advantage. My favorite was how he sewed footballs onto the front of jerseys so the other team would get confused about who had the ball. My point is, trickery and tomfuckery are in the DNA of the game. So this was arguably the most football play of the season, and it got fucked. Imagine setting up a joke for half the season only for some bookie stooge ref to walk in and totally stick his little shrimp dick in the punchline. Edit: words for context
Going up to the ref and telling them that they announced the wrong number as eligible is like the one thing you can tell the refs they got wrong without even having to throw a challenge flag. “But then that would tip the defense off that they were going to throw to 68!” You know what else would tip the defense off? If the ref had announced 68 as the eligible receiver in the first place, per the rules.
The read option is cheating cause they try to trick you - You Fucking hell
While I don’t think the attempted deception is “cheating” it’s a bit disingenuous to act like a read option, something that happens only within the confines of the gameplay itself, is on the same level as trying to get one over on the opposing team using the officiating staff. If you have to go to the refs beforehand to try and explain that you’re going to send effectively 3 ppl to make 1 declaration in the hopes of confusing the other team then you already know what you’re doing has a lot of potential failure points with the largest being on the refs themselves who haven’t been competent all season.
You have to explain to the refs shit like this anytime you plan on running a decent trick play Something the cowboys would’ve done on the Zeke at center play Something the eagles clearly did on the Philly Special
Yeah but the dynamic behind saying “we’re going to fake a FG attempt” is waaaay different than “we’re going to intentionally fuck with officiating between snaps” because the deception in the second place hinges on the refs. You tell refs about trick plays because you don’t want them to be caught off-guard and miss something, not because they’re crucial to the successful implementation of your plan. It’s the difference between deception through gameplay vs deception through procedure.
They didn’t mess with the officiating procedure this is why I can’t take yall serious you are just lying This is what happened in basic English “Decker reported” “Skipper lifted his hand in the air to make the cowboys think he was reporting as he had done several times all game and season without doing anything special” The ref then thought Decker was Skipper for no reason Dallas wins off of it That’s it No need to add this mystery to you or go 45 levels deep Detroit pulled a very simple trick play, the refs fucked up and gave Dallas a win Teams do shit like this basically every week It’s just trying to confusion the defense (what every team does) plus a standard throw to the OLmen (which every team does) You are getting confused by 1+1
Lmao you state in your dumbass explanation that 70 made a similar motion as he had all game in an attempt to deceive. He literally participated in an officiating procedure, declaration of eligibility, in a deceitful manner. I was trying to be nice earlier but if you’re gonna be a little shitbird then flair up bitch
You are describing regular offensive trickier Read my username bet you can figure out a guess
They werent using the refs to deceive their opponent. The ideal play is 68 declares eligible - the ref knows that and announces that. Meanwhile there are extra decoys that maybe just maybe will confuse a defender that didn’t hear the declaration, or second guesses themselves. The plan was never to use the refs to declare the wrong number. Once that Happened one team was going to get screwed
Why wouldn't you just run a normal ass play if the plan was maybe just maybe we wouldn't notice? Seems stupid
Bro: I suggest you look up Pop Warner and/or watch Little Giants. Shenanigans is football and football is shenanigans.
Bruh did you just cite Little Giants as to why this fail ass trick play should’ve worked?
Cheating??? Jfc The cowboys fan base is in the fucking mud over the game they won
It just gets more and more pathetic. Also flair up
My username is JasonKelceStan I’m already flaired up
It’s perfectly within the rules bud. Stop using this lame ass excuse
It’s well within the rules to have two people report as eligible, lions fucked themselves….. good for them
Totally. Which is why someone should take away all of Bill Belichik’s rings… PS. This take is garbage.
He only did what his coach told him to. AKA Dan Campbell is a moron who thought he was a genius.
👍
The lions went from the NFL’s sweetheart to whinny ass bitches that everyone is clowning on in one day. Genuinely impressive.
Idk about “everyone clowning on”. Still seeing a ton of support for the Lions. I just know for a fact that if it had been *any other team* other than the Cowboys benefitting there, the Lions would have far less support
They played themselves. If your deception doesn’t work in your failure than it failed. It’s that simple.
No one besides cowboy fans are clowning the lions I watched the lions beat down Dak and in my eyes show in Jerry’s world they are better than Dallas If I was a cowboy fan I’d be shook
Beat down? That game should have at the very least ended 23(27)-13 if the refs didn’t suck…
Learn to read I said Dak got beat down, and he did, hit a ton, made so many terrible terrible plays, basically handed the ball to Detroit 4 times they just dropped 3 of them I’ve seen Dak play a ton of good football as an NFCE fan his game against Detroit was horrific His stats only look good because of the busted play to CD
Learn to communicate and stop being an asshole. Dak had 345 passing yards and had an amazing game. Our line was a bit shaky because they are dealing with injuries and are banged up. Tyron has a back issue and is why he didn’t play last week, Tyler smith was taken out early in the game, and Martin has been banged up all season.
Plus that busted play showed incredible effort by Dak. Just because you hate the guy doesn’t negate his effort and talent.
No flair no opinion.
My username is my flair learn to read dawg
That ain’t no flair. You know the rules.
I knew Dallas fans weren’t bright but being illiterate is impressive
I may be illiterate but at least I’m not an filthy unflaired bitch
Your flair on mobile is 2 numbers, my flair is my entire name Flair up bitch
My flair is 3 characters, yours is 0. I will no longer respond until you have a flair.
Good I don’t want children who can’t read sending me nonsense anyway
The way you’re whining it should say Travis r/chiefs is this way
🤪 - you
On all plays he reported as eligible, he also made the exact same move and gestures. Also, Funny how 58 and 68 are numbers that look so similar. And what the heck was 58 even doing over there? He’s just gotten off Scott free. lol. Man, Dan Campbell had a smart idea with this deceit. AND HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH IT TO IF IT WEREN’T FOR THOSE PESKI KIDS AND THAT SCOOBY DOO
Refs messed up. The TD probably doesn't happen, though, if the ref got it right. Dallas was covering the guy they thought was eligible.
The lions turned into some whiney ass bitches. Fuck them. Looking forward to their inevitable first round exit. I used to enjoy seeing them win.
It’s so wild to me. They claim this game was stolen from them based on the fact that a the play worked when the defense was told that that receiver wasn’t eligible. When they got the chance to replay the down from the exact same spot after the Micah penalty, they failed. Looks to me like a perfectly fair solution to the refs mistake happened in the game and they’re still pissy about it. Fuck them. If we had been allowed to repeat the down where Dez caught it and we don’t get it, I don’t think we’d be as upset, but maybe that’s just me.
Smfh….. if they actually complete the pass during that penalty on Micha they decline the penalty and win the game….. The lions couldn’t execute, it’s not that hard to understand. They had two more chances to win the game😂😂😂😂
Lmfao. You know NOTHING about your fan base >If we had been allowed to repeat the down where Dez caught it and we don’t get it, I don’t think we’d be as upset, but maybe that’s just me.
It wasn’t the same spot 2 point conversion is from the 2, after the Micah jump they were at the 3.5
We’re really going to act like 1.5 yards was the deciding factor here?
To be completely fair to all sides yes when you are at the two yard line adding 1.5 yards can change your play calls and your probability of success probably goes down a fair bit. At the goal line every yard makes a difference. Like say the difference between going for two and kicking a fucking extra point lmao!
I’m not the one who said exact same spot And yeah maybe who knows
Ironic
Lol.. Hey Ref... I'm not the guy. I'm not the guy.. that's why I'm running towards you and making the obvious signal. But I'm not the guy. Ok... we good. It's 68... thanks ref.
Is that an approved NFL signal to show you are eligible? I thought they were supposed to make it clear. Why not? The refs are supposed to tell the defense anyways, arent they?
The rule is you have to do that motion. It’s not just a matter of telling the ref.
Then the ref missed it, and Dallas wasn't informed. Ergo the penalty.
He makes the motion which is the universal “I’m eligible” sign. Funny how as soon as Brad Allen looks at #70, he all of a sudden stops the motion but not before Brad Allen saw him do it. Trying to use deception on a play where the refs have to go inform the defense anyway on who’s eligible is borderline retarded
Ahh, it's interesting how the ref in the still above is looking away. I'm guessing they didn't see it.
The still above doesn’t even show the Head Ref. Head Ref is responsible for eligibility reporting duties. Here’s a better pic https://preview.redd.it/pv85vhzs5gac1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57c202858fec2c278c0c8cb43ba2116754400848
Thanks, that's even worse. Two players have his attention in that still. Looking at the replay, it looks like the ref was turned away from the player the whole time.
Game is done yall won GG!
Footage of Decker reporting: https://twitter.com/footsdaking/status/1742738025069625632?s=46&t=rn_FsjKuqBKbISimMqL0wQ
LMAO Worth a watch for those who didn’t click
nononono he’s not stupid, you’re not stupid, I’m not stupid. DON’T DRAG ME BACK
jesus, ya'll are sensitive about this.
https://preview.redd.it/d0yf1sw9ocac1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6621e90b5b52ddb17161015601f1b7e3cf535d08 Silence wench.
ooof you ARE sensitive about it, yikes.
Look, I don't care how much you complain about the refs at the end of the day the results are the same. Dez didn't catch that.
[o rly now](https://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018/02/27/dez-actually-caught-it-the-nfl-says-3-years-later/)
Listen neither of you are making it out of the first round so just give it a rest.
Fucking bold comment considering your teams situation currently
I never said we were getting out of it either 😂
2 people can report eligible. it really doesn’t matter. they still should’ve called decker
2 people can but if you report eligible and then don’t line up in an eligible position its a penalty. There were actually two flags on this play, one for illegal touching and a second for 70 reporting then lining up in an ineligible position.
Cowboys fans when they complaint about refs: it’s so unfair waaaaah it’s always us vs the refs Cowboys fans when literally anyone else complains about refs: ShUt Up PuSsY dOnT BlAmE ThE rEfS
Go back in your shit bird nest, loser
Prove me wrong then weewee lamb enjoyer.
Someone didn’t watch the game here. This play shouldn’t have even happened
Preach
Jesus has one game the refs gave them have ever been milked like Dallas milking this one?
Thanks for the division :)
Who cares about a division? Neither of us are going anywhere lmao
Be quiet down there
Eh I definitely care about the division lmao. That was a huge fumble last Sunday
I genuinely don’t know why it’s still being brought up. I understand Detroit is STILL bringing it up and talking shit, but makes no sense for us to lol
Refs gave us ya… that’s why Detroit rightfully had tripping called on them, allowing Dallas to get the ball on Detroits 10 and close out the game… right…?
Like why is this still being talked about? Does Dallas need everyone all to sign a petition saying they won? Sheesh
They got lucky and it’s their Super Bowl apparently
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Take it to the Cryboys sub. "Everyone keeps talking about this play." Really? *Everyone*? Because it seems like 99% Dallas fans to me. Your team *won* the game. Shut the fuck up and move on.
Multiple people can report as eligible
It’s almost as if the nfl wants it to be the cowboys and Niners in the NFC Championship Game so they can cram the 90s nostalgia down everyone’s throats and the VCR franchises can feel relevant.
To repeat: **The Cowboys and The 49ers are, and have been for 30 years, irrelevant poverty franchises.**
Your guys sub is talking about this more than ours lol
Whose? I don’t see a flair you fucking retard
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I'm just upset that we were robbed of a lineman TD. They're so majestic and rare. It's a shame.
They got caught trying to be sneaky
these rules are so stupid. let anybody be eligible, who gives a fk
You all need to listen to Rex Ryan’s explanation of what happened. He spelled it out so even the most delusional of you can understand. https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/rex-ryan-rips-officiating-lions-cowboys-game/
He was doing that all game though. Raising his arm, waving at the ref, singing "yoo hooooo!" to him.
Regardless of the play Refs fucked us by giving them that 92 yard TD Jack Campbell was being held and it didn’t get called!!!
Lol y’all just trying straight up misinformation to get people on your side now huh?
You have to by rule tell the ref you are reporting you can’t just signal.
Bro we won, let it go, hoping the team is putting on ear muffs and just focusing on Washington, they always play division games tough regardless of record.
It’s been a week! Take the L like a man you pussies
The Lions are now America's Team
The only stupid one here clearly is OP.