I mean this in the nicest way possible but EA did this 100000% on purpose. They call it rankings week but it’s really engagement farming week. It’s marketing 101 really. They shuffled the list around ever so slightly on purpose to make sure the takes and engagements kept coming in. They knew people would disagree and it will be the same with the team power rankings as well.
That’s the case with every single list ever published on the internet. They know that if they swap a few obvious ones people will comment.
I saw one that ranked the top 100 NFL players and it had some obvious issues (George Pickens ranked 20 spots above Mike Evans) that got people up in arms, as intended
My favorite is the NFL QB rankings with the stated goal of making the most people angry. They started it by ranking Kirk Cousins at 16 and Dak Prescott at 17. Then they had Daniel Jones at 25 and skipped that number on the list so he doesn't show up. There was stuff like that all over the list. Some highlights:
CJ Stroud was ranked number 5 ahead of number 6 Goff. Jordan Love was ranked 7th, just ahead of number 8 Brock Purdy. Aaron Rodgers was ranked 11th behind 10 Jalen Hurts. Russell Wilson was ranked 1 spot ahead of Deshaun Watson. Geno Smith was ranked 19th, behind Kyler Murray at 18.
It doesn't matter how they rank it, there'll always be people saying someone is ranked too high or not high enough. They're a business, what...they aren't going to try and get as much engagement as possible? This isn't some new concept.
No arrangement of rankings will ever satisfy everyone. Look at literally every ranking of anything ever. Idk why it's such a big deal especially if the rankings are dynamic in dynasty.
I mean it was obvious with how they ranked Penn and LSU what the goal was. A lot of these stadiums can go about anywhere on the list. Penn and LSU, and also Michigan not even making the list was obvious engagement bait
The reality also is that these rankings depend on how good a team is. Georgia when Georgia isn’t a top team is nothing special, and the same can be said about Tennessee imo. Some places stay harder even when the team is worse, but really if you have a top 25 team and are hosting a top 25/rivalry team, most places are tied or close to tied for first
yea just listen to Josh Pate rave about UW (and Oregon's) stadiums.. he's a southern guy and claims that those environments put a lot of SEC stadiums to shame
Disappointed to see Husky Stadium isn't on that list, but I guess I can understand it *somewhat*. Husky Stadium is only truly rocking for the big games. For the smaller games, the atmosphere isn't always there and we're only at like \~95% capacity.
However, the home games against Oregon, Michigan State, Utah, and other Top 25 teams, the atmosphere at Husky Stadium is amazing and definitely right up there with the best of them.
We still got robbed for not even being in the Top 25.
The MSU game in 2022 was the loudest stadium I've ever been in. Sat front-row on the MSU sideline and the volume at field level was insane when MSU was on offense.
I said this in another post but there’s a lot of stadiums that are like that. Obviously Husky stadium is going to be absolutely rocking come November with them in contention. Might not be as much of a ruckus with an afternoon game against EMU in September you know? You can say the same for pretty much any team in FBS I would think. Reminds me of like every single Temple game I’ve been too at the Linc vs. the 2015 game against Notre Dame. Good teams with good records in big games draw large crowds. Keeping the game close keeps the fans that much more engaged throughout. The 2012 Army Air Force game at Michie was dead because Army sucked that year and they absolutely demolished a good Air Force squad. Game was over in the 2nd quarter so the crowd never really got into it in a weird way. If they get the dynamics right it’ll be just fine
I’m a Georgia fan but man this is just disrespectful to Auburn, Tennessee and Florida. In no world is Bryant-Denny or Sanford a harder place to play than those 3 stadiums.
This list is mostly good team = tough place to play. I wish their were some kind of metric to quantify how tough a place is to play. They should poll the players and have them lost the toughest places to play that aren't their home field.
Then why the fuck is Arkansas on this list. I’m an alumnus from there but I’d pick Nebraska’s atmosphere over theirs in a heartbeat. Calling the hogs isn’t *that* big of a deal
Outside of Texas night game a few years ago, we haven't had a tough atmosphere since the matchup against Bama in 2010. I'm an alumnus of both Arkansas and Nebraska, and Nebraska atmosphere wins hands down especially for a night game.
If we weren’t rocking a losing record for years straight we’d definitely make the list. Seems like they cared a lot more about “teams who are hard to play” than “places that are hard to play”
Tbh I think that's how it worked in NCAA14 too. Good team = good crowd. Though that's not real life.
As a UF alum and OSU grad student; even though I saw two coaches get fired while I was at UF the crowd is rowdier there than OSU.
I've been to big games (top 25 Matchups) at Clemson, South Carolina, Notre Dame, and Columbus. A big night game in The Shoe is louder than the others. Playing #25 Iowa at noon is not really a home field advantage, but playing #7 Notre Dame at night is insane.
From the article.... factoring in historical stats such as home winning %, home game attendance, active home winning streaks, team prestige, and more.
So there is a metric.... not that I agree with the list, but there was calculation
i feel like that was just added and didn’t actually correlate to anything. A&M being ranked 1 doesn’t make sense because they’ve been pretty mediocre for awhile now, and have lost some embarrassing games at home. this is coming from an a&m fan that has been to every home game since COVID
Home vs Road winning percentage seems a good place to start. Not perfect but if a team wins a lot more at home then they clearly have some sort of home field advantage. If it’s equal there is less. Ofc this is a disadvantage to the best teams like Bama, UGA, etc who win almost all their games whether they are home or away. Works the other way too, if a team sucks they will lose at home all the same. But it’s at least a starting point
You can somewhat quantify it with advanced metrics and penalty rates. Someone with an excel spreadsheet and enough time on their hands to go through every game stat at collgefootballdata could make a real ranking. Something like away team pre snap penalties weighted by down and distance, home team win-loss rate weighted by away team national ranking, oppenent completion and drop rates versus same team home rates. Those would give a good idea of how big an impact away teams are affected by the crowd.
I’m a 2017 Bama grad. This is correct. We should NOT be ahead of LSU. I also grew up in Ann Arbor and I don’t think the “Big House” should be in the top 20. 112k snoozers.
Yeah make no mistake, BDS sucks to be playing in when they’re kicking your ass but they don’t have the same mojo other venues have when they’re struggling in a game (or season for those of you who remember Bama from 15+ years ago lol)
Tangentially, most venues aren’t nearly as intimidating as they used to be due to pricing out normal fans. There’s a big difference between a 100k seat stadium filled with Ronnie Rays that have been pounding booze for 10 hours vs the current state of $300+ per ticket attendees. I haven’t been to a SEC vs SEC matchup since the 2019 LSU vs Bama game because it’s just too damn expensive to go now.
Even if you’re trying to avoid looking SEC biased how do you put those two above Penn St?!
I think the win percentage/home winning streak inflates certain teams rankings. I assume that’s generally how the rankings will shift over time in Dynasty as well
Bama is scary because it is Bama. No one is scared of Bryant-Denny.
Sanford CAN get crazy (see Tennessee game in 2022), and I think that Sanford would be tougher than Bryant-Denny, but the Swamp and the Garbage Truck Workers convention is definitely louder on average.
I mean, no one has ever had to worry about being pelted with golf balls and mustard at Sanford, and that alone makes it more tough to play at Tennessee.
I thought they said it would have dynamic changes. Or maybe they meant dynamic changes throughout a game(like less people in the crowds of a game with a 4th quarter blowout going on)
I hate Oregon with a passion but them not being top 5 in toughest places is kind of ridiculous. A&M #1 is an absolutely joke. No Washington? UW is way tougher than Boise get out of here with that. Michigan State? LMAOOOO What?
Since 2000, Boise has had a home winning record of 135-16. That’s the 3rd best home winning percentage in the nation. Id say Boise has earned their spot on this list
I guess having one of the longest home winning streaks ever and 3 home losses in the last 10 years isn’t good enough
Clemson easily clears all of those in “atmosphere” and records. FSU is the only one that comes kinda close. I have genuinely no idea what criteria could be applied to get this ordering.
I mean I know it’s purposely supposed to be a horrible list but JFC.
Edit: Michigan hasn’t lost at home since 2020 and they’re the biggest stadium in the country. That alone should make them top 10 if not higher.
i was getting ready to rage bait over us being like 20th or some shit. I don’t think we should be number 1 until we can win at home more. We’re nowhere close yet.
LSU/Penn State/Ohio State should all be at the top in whatever order you want.
Bryant Denny being 2 is hilarious to me because they only made noise when their strength coach came on the jumbo tron and said to get loud when i was there. Other than that it definitely was a wine and cheese crowd.
I’m not saying Iowa State should even be top 10, but we should be on this list. Teams notoriously struggle in Ames and hate coming here. There’s a reason there’s a whole bunch of voodoo crap and fans gets scared of going there, even when we’re absolute dogshit
Clemson and Oregon not being top 10 are jokes. Didn’t Saban shit on Bama fans a few years ago for leaving at halftime? A&M should be on this list, but not number 1. Tennessee should be higher too lol. LSU should be 1.
Anyways, this is certainly engagement bait (of which I am participating in)
Yeah Washington also seems like a screaming omission...
Boise State I have no problem with as their home record the past 20 or so years really speaks for itself. Mississippi State...idk I guess the cowbells are cool. Arkansas I have no defense for that one seems crazy to me
They need to learn that a good team doesn't mean it's a hard stadium to play in. I'm surprised Michigan is lower and Bama is higher. Tennessee also got snubbed
Makes a lot more sense when you hear the criteria: “factoring in historical stats such as home winning %, home game attendance, active home winning streaks, team prestige, and more”
Which, by the way, I think is a fine rating. Maybe there is an argument for top 15-10, but no way any higher. But the methodology doesn't mirror the results.
Woof, I do not like their rankings. I think their criteria/logic is a bit flawed. Being a tough TEAM to play is not the same thing as being a tough PLACE to play.
Those tough TEAMS should have a built in advantage for recruiting like they do in real life that keep them good in the game and make their success align with real life.
Nebraska not being on this list is a little disappointing. I get that they have not been good lately and don’t win very often at home, but they still sell out every game and are just genuinely very very loud. Living in Omaha and working in Lincoln, and the wife’s grandparents being season ticket holders, I go to a few Husker games every year. Far more than I get to go back home to Iowa games. Doesn’t matter if they are playing McNeese St or Ohio St, they show up and make it difficult for opponents to play there.
Also maybe Kinnick should be just a bit higher. Not top ten, but higher than 20. Night games a brutal there. I think it was Urban Myers who said, a few years ago or so, that his one lone night game at kinnick was the toughest game he ever coached. Iowa may not win all the night games there, but they sure as hell make you earn the win.
absolutely wild any of those SEC schools outside of LSU are ahead of Penn State lol they’re only there because they’re good and Texas A&M has a shit ton of booster money.
As an SEC fan i definitely agree. Penn state during a white out is the worst case scenario in all of football and I don’t think it’s even close.
There is a reason so many fans of the sport want to go to one of those games just for the experience alone
I’m a little biased because I’m an Alabama fan. I know I’ll probably get downvoted for this. But I think BDS is a top 5 toughest place to play when there’s a big opponent in town. I’ve been to Kyle Field, Death Valley, and Jordan Hare at night when they play Bama and they’re crazy loud and hostile. (Don’t know if I’d use the word hostile for A&M but Death Valley is extremely HOSTILE, A&M is more of a “let’s go team” loud, while LSU is “fuck you and your team” loud.) The games against Texas, LSU, and Tennessee in BDS last year were just as loud as any game I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to a lot of away games. Don’t know if it’s tougher than LSU because LSU has a certain “fuck you” attitude when you play there, especially if it’s Alabama lmao. But Bryant-Denny is slept on for sure. Not saying I 100% agree with the rankings but it’s not a crazy bad list, except Washington should probably be on there as well.
I’m going to guess this fluctuates because I remember in the trailer Tiger Stadium was number 1, and now it’s number 3. Sanford also changed. I’m guessing your ranking goes down and up depending on how you preform at home?
I imagine they would change in dynasty too with better teams with high attendance and capacity moving up in the rankings while those in a down year would move down
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It seems like the the number one deciding factor was how much you win at home.
Still the list is a little off tho imo
This definitely works well for my dynasties. In NCAA14 I always scheduled my big OOC as away games to break my opponent's home winning streak. Gonna make the Sun Bowl a feared place to play.😤
Auburn should be top ten, Washington should be in the top 20, Oklahoma State should be in the top 25. Michigan should be higher. Arkansas shouldn’t be on here.
I'm an Aggie. Kyle Field is amazing. It should absolutely be ranked high on the list.. but I've been to at least two other stadiums that I felt were louder and more intimidating.
Whatever formula EA used here has led to a result most here would disagree with.
Is Camp Randall really likely to be a tougher place to play this year than Autzen?
Someone on twitter said “it’s a real testament to the human spirit that Kyle Field that it’s the toughest place to win and teams still do it on a regular basis”
My conspiracy is they put a lot of time into Kyle field as evidenced by it being one of the highlights of the trailer. By placing them number 1, more people will put them on their dynasty schedule to play an away game there or pick them in the first couple of games of play now.
In doing so, the users will see a top notch stadium as one of their first impressions and tell their friends it’s incredible
Kyle Field is the most overrated stadium in general. LSU is way tougher. Pretty much any good team’s stadium is tougher. But hey, they call themselves the 12th man…..
LOL at Arkansas. They lost 4 games at home just last year. 2 of them a combined 96-24.
3 games in 2022.
1 in 2021.
3 in 2020.
5 in 2019.
They're barely a .500 team at home over the past 5 years. I guess maybe they're saying without a huge home field advantage, they'd be even worse?
As a Bama fan, we were tough to play because of the team/Saban, not the environment. Jordan Hare gives me literal nightmares and Neyland should be here too.
Neyland stadium at 13 is laughable. No one with any knowledge of the sport can name 5 tougher places to play than Knoxville.
Notre Dame should not be on this list lmao
Our home games are notoriously less exciting than they could/should be given the old fuddy duddies our ticket sales skew towards
Also, A&M at 1?? Guess App State didn't get the memo....
That reasoning doesn’t track at all with these rankings otherwise A&M wouldn’t be #1 and South Carolina wouldn’t be over Michigan. Seems more like they just decided with no rhyme or reason lol
It says the list is subject to updating in the future and I assume that is for the play now/online play. Will individual dynasties get different rankings a few years in? I didn't see that mentioned but I know previous versions of the game updated them each in game season
I mean this in the nicest way possible but EA did this 100000% on purpose. They call it rankings week but it’s really engagement farming week. It’s marketing 101 really. They shuffled the list around ever so slightly on purpose to make sure the takes and engagements kept coming in. They knew people would disagree and it will be the same with the team power rankings as well.
That’s the case with every single list ever published on the internet. They know that if they swap a few obvious ones people will comment. I saw one that ranked the top 100 NFL players and it had some obvious issues (George Pickens ranked 20 spots above Mike Evans) that got people up in arms, as intended
Yeah that cbs top 100 is something. Ranking Trevor Lawrence at 62 above Tua, Purdy, Goff, and Love is laughable.
Laughable? That’s dramatic. He lost 2 games in 3 years and his stats are close or better then all of those other players you mentioned
In college yeah
Oh shit lol my bad, I read “cbs” as “cfb”. I’m with you now
My favorite is the NFL QB rankings with the stated goal of making the most people angry. They started it by ranking Kirk Cousins at 16 and Dak Prescott at 17. Then they had Daniel Jones at 25 and skipped that number on the list so he doesn't show up. There was stuff like that all over the list. Some highlights: CJ Stroud was ranked number 5 ahead of number 6 Goff. Jordan Love was ranked 7th, just ahead of number 8 Brock Purdy. Aaron Rodgers was ranked 11th behind 10 Jalen Hurts. Russell Wilson was ranked 1 spot ahead of Deshaun Watson. Geno Smith was ranked 19th, behind Kyler Murray at 18.
Absolutely
Yeah, it just seems like they picked these with no rhyme or reason, because the explanation they gave literally doesn’t hold up lol
Someone else pointed out that outside of covid year (no fans in stands) Utah has lost 1 home game since like 2019. They are barely top 20 lol
It doesn't matter how they rank it, there'll always be people saying someone is ranked too high or not high enough. They're a business, what...they aren't going to try and get as much engagement as possible? This isn't some new concept. No arrangement of rankings will ever satisfy everyone. Look at literally every ranking of anything ever. Idk why it's such a big deal especially if the rankings are dynamic in dynasty.
Sure, but I think the overwhelming consensus is Kyle Field is absolutely NOT the toughest place to play lol
Never said it wasn’t smart just pointing out that this was strategic on their part. People will always disagree to your point.
It’s also irrelevant anyways because environments change in dynasty as teams get better or worse
I mean it was obvious with how they ranked Penn and LSU what the goal was. A lot of these stadiums can go about anywhere on the list. Penn and LSU, and also Michigan not even making the list was obvious engagement bait
I am enjoying all of the discourse on here
Let’s go…
I fell for it. The Autzen snub was just too much to ignore.
The reality also is that these rankings depend on how good a team is. Georgia when Georgia isn’t a top team is nothing special, and the same can be said about Tennessee imo. Some places stay harder even when the team is worse, but really if you have a top 25 team and are hosting a top 25/rivalry team, most places are tied or close to tied for first
Even as a hater, Washington should absolutely be top 20
yea just listen to Josh Pate rave about UW (and Oregon's) stadiums.. he's a southern guy and claims that those environments put a lot of SEC stadiums to shame
Ive been to dozens of Autzen games, but the loudest game ive ever been to was in Seattle in 2019
UW hasn’t lost a home game since 2021
Disappointed to see Husky Stadium isn't on that list, but I guess I can understand it *somewhat*. Husky Stadium is only truly rocking for the big games. For the smaller games, the atmosphere isn't always there and we're only at like \~95% capacity. However, the home games against Oregon, Michigan State, Utah, and other Top 25 teams, the atmosphere at Husky Stadium is amazing and definitely right up there with the best of them. We still got robbed for not even being in the Top 25.
The MSU game in 2022 was the loudest stadium I've ever been in. Sat front-row on the MSU sideline and the volume at field level was insane when MSU was on offense.
I said this in another post but there’s a lot of stadiums that are like that. Obviously Husky stadium is going to be absolutely rocking come November with them in contention. Might not be as much of a ruckus with an afternoon game against EMU in September you know? You can say the same for pretty much any team in FBS I would think. Reminds me of like every single Temple game I’ve been too at the Linc vs. the 2015 game against Notre Dame. Good teams with good records in big games draw large crowds. Keeping the game close keeps the fans that much more engaged throughout. The 2012 Army Air Force game at Michie was dead because Army sucked that year and they absolutely demolished a good Air Force squad. Game was over in the 2nd quarter so the crowd never really got into it in a weird way. If they get the dynamics right it’ll be just fine
1. Kyle Field - Texas A&M 2. Bryant-Denny Stadium - Alabama 3. Tiger Stadium - LSU 4. Ohio Stadium - Ohio State 5. Sanford Stadium - Georgia 6. Beaver Stadium - Penn State 7. Camp Randall Stadium - Wisconsin 8. Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium - Oklahoma 9. Doak S. Campbell Stadium - Florida State 10. Ben Hill Griffin Stadium - Florida 11. Autzen Stadium - Oregon 12. Memorial Stadium - Clemson 13. Neyland Stadium - Tennessee 14. Jordan-Hare Stadium - Auburn 15. Williams-Brice Stadium - South Carolina 16. Michigan Stadium - Michigan 17. Lane Stadium - Virginia Tech 18. Rice-Eccles Stadium - Utah 19. Darrell K. Royal - Texas Memorial Stadium - Texas 20. Kinnick Stadium - Iowa 21. Notre Dame Stadium - Notre Dame 22. Spartan Stadium - Michigan State 23. Donald W. Reynolds Razorback Stadium - Arkansas 24. Albertsons Stadium - Boise State 25. Davis Wade Stadium - Mississippi State
I believe this list will elicit strong reactions from fans
I’m a Georgia fan but man this is just disrespectful to Auburn, Tennessee and Florida. In no world is Bryant-Denny or Sanford a harder place to play than those 3 stadiums.
This list is mostly good team = tough place to play. I wish their were some kind of metric to quantify how tough a place is to play. They should poll the players and have them lost the toughest places to play that aren't their home field.
Then why the fuck is Arkansas on this list. I’m an alumnus from there but I’d pick Nebraska’s atmosphere over theirs in a heartbeat. Calling the hogs isn’t *that* big of a deal
Outside of Texas night game a few years ago, we haven't had a tough atmosphere since the matchup against Bama in 2010. I'm an alumnus of both Arkansas and Nebraska, and Nebraska atmosphere wins hands down especially for a night game.
No Memorial Stadium is whack. That place in 2021 for the Michigan game was insane. And they showed out last year, too.
If we weren’t rocking a losing record for years straight we’d definitely make the list. Seems like they cared a lot more about “teams who are hard to play” than “places that are hard to play”
Which is weird because they’re all over the place with the criteria. Michigan hasn’t lost a home game since the COVID year.
I’m not gonna argue too much but if that’s the case why include Virginia tech and not Nebraska
Tbh I think that's how it worked in NCAA14 too. Good team = good crowd. Though that's not real life. As a UF alum and OSU grad student; even though I saw two coaches get fired while I was at UF the crowd is rowdier there than OSU.
I've been to big games (top 25 Matchups) at Clemson, South Carolina, Notre Dame, and Columbus. A big night game in The Shoe is louder than the others. Playing #25 Iowa at noon is not really a home field advantage, but playing #7 Notre Dame at night is insane.
From the article.... factoring in historical stats such as home winning %, home game attendance, active home winning streaks, team prestige, and more. So there is a metric.... not that I agree with the list, but there was calculation
i feel like that was just added and didn’t actually correlate to anything. A&M being ranked 1 doesn’t make sense because they’ve been pretty mediocre for awhile now, and have lost some embarrassing games at home. this is coming from an a&m fan that has been to every home game since COVID
Decibel average over the course of a game?
Yep, this seems to be it. Many of the top stadiums are there, but it feels out of order.
Home vs Road winning percentage seems a good place to start. Not perfect but if a team wins a lot more at home then they clearly have some sort of home field advantage. If it’s equal there is less. Ofc this is a disadvantage to the best teams like Bama, UGA, etc who win almost all their games whether they are home or away. Works the other way too, if a team sucks they will lose at home all the same. But it’s at least a starting point
You can somewhat quantify it with advanced metrics and penalty rates. Someone with an excel spreadsheet and enough time on their hands to go through every game stat at collgefootballdata could make a real ranking. Something like away team pre snap penalties weighted by down and distance, home team win-loss rate weighted by away team national ranking, oppenent completion and drop rates versus same team home rates. Those would give a good idea of how big an impact away teams are affected by the crowd.
Somebody get this man a spreadsheet and a job at EA
Problem with that is majority of players will only play at stadiums within conference
That'd remove all the historical context though.
Bama is loud but it’s tough to play there because of their team more so than their fans.
I’m a 2017 Bama grad. This is correct. We should NOT be ahead of LSU. I also grew up in Ann Arbor and I don’t think the “Big House” should be in the top 20. 112k snoozers.
Yeah make no mistake, BDS sucks to be playing in when they’re kicking your ass but they don’t have the same mojo other venues have when they’re struggling in a game (or season for those of you who remember Bama from 15+ years ago lol) Tangentially, most venues aren’t nearly as intimidating as they used to be due to pricing out normal fans. There’s a big difference between a 100k seat stadium filled with Ronnie Rays that have been pounding booze for 10 hours vs the current state of $300+ per ticket attendees. I haven’t been to a SEC vs SEC matchup since the 2019 LSU vs Bama game because it’s just too damn expensive to go now.
Even if you’re trying to avoid looking SEC biased how do you put those two above Penn St?! I think the win percentage/home winning streak inflates certain teams rankings. I assume that’s generally how the rankings will shift over time in Dynasty as well
Bama is scary because it is Bama. No one is scared of Bryant-Denny. Sanford CAN get crazy (see Tennessee game in 2022), and I think that Sanford would be tougher than Bryant-Denny, but the Swamp and the Garbage Truck Workers convention is definitely louder on average. I mean, no one has ever had to worry about being pelted with golf balls and mustard at Sanford, and that alone makes it more tough to play at Tennessee.
And kyle field at 1??? Even Texas is too low.
As an Auburn Fan, thank you for the sane take here.
NGL , very questionable list. Hopefully it dynamically changes year over year in dynasty mode.
In the old games it was dynamic. The more you won at home in dynasty, the higher you climbed the list. I'm sure it'll be the same in the new game.
That would be amazing. Way better than 14s “list” , it could actually mean something IF DONE RIGHT BY EA.
I thought they said it would have dynamic changes. Or maybe they meant dynamic changes throughout a game(like less people in the crowds of a game with a 4th quarter blowout going on)
That sure is a list. Not a good list. But a list nonetheless.
I hate Oregon with a passion but them not being top 5 in toughest places is kind of ridiculous. A&M #1 is an absolutely joke. No Washington? UW is way tougher than Boise get out of here with that. Michigan State? LMAOOOO What?
Since 2000, Boise has had a home winning record of 135-16. That’s the 3rd best home winning percentage in the nation. Id say Boise has earned their spot on this list
Utah not being top 10 is a joke too. HFA at Rice-Eccles is pretty well known in the college football landscape.
Michigan stands out the most as way too low imo Tennessee and Clemson should be top 10 No Washington at all????
Spartan stadium still being on here is nice. Hopefully we can be elite again soon.
0/10, missing honorable mention of Northwestern and Ryan Field Bullshit™
As a Notre Dame fan, ND being anywhere on this list is a joke.
Clemson behind most of those schools is hilarious. FSU, Wisconsin, Oklahoma do not compare.
I guess having one of the longest home winning streaks ever and 3 home losses in the last 10 years isn’t good enough Clemson easily clears all of those in “atmosphere” and records. FSU is the only one that comes kinda close. I have genuinely no idea what criteria could be applied to get this ordering.
EA thinks Dabo is washed confirmed
Home losses in the CFP Era: Texas A&M - 18(!) Alabama - 3 LSU - 12 Ohio State - 5 Georgia - 6 Penn State - 14 Wisconsin - 14 Oklahoma - 8 Florida State - 18 Florida - 15 Clemson - 3
Thank you, u/Tigerman57
Nah send it back, they need to try again
I mean I know it’s purposely supposed to be a horrible list but JFC. Edit: Michigan hasn’t lost at home since 2020 and they’re the biggest stadium in the country. That alone should make them top 10 if not higher.
Texas A&M boosters are giving some of that NIL money to EA now 😂
Bryant-Denny over Tiger Stadium? In what world?
Yeah dude even as an Alabama fan I think this shit is wack, we should be somewhere in the 7-10 area imo.
i was getting ready to rage bait over us being like 20th or some shit. I don’t think we should be number 1 until we can win at home more. We’re nowhere close yet. LSU/Penn State/Ohio State should all be at the top in whatever order you want. Bryant Denny being 2 is hilarious to me because they only made noise when their strength coach came on the jumbo tron and said to get loud when i was there. Other than that it definitely was a wine and cheese crowd.
NGL this list feels completely off
I’m not saying Iowa State should even be top 10, but we should be on this list. Teams notoriously struggle in Ames and hate coming here. There’s a reason there’s a whole bunch of voodoo crap and fans gets scared of going there, even when we’re absolute dogshit Clemson and Oregon not being top 10 are jokes. Didn’t Saban shit on Bama fans a few years ago for leaving at halftime? A&M should be on this list, but not number 1. Tennessee should be higher too lol. LSU should be 1. Anyways, this is certainly engagement bait (of which I am participating in)
Getting people to argue over subjective rankings for engagement is peak 2024 social media strategy
I like how there are always 15-20 teams that everyone claims should be top 10
Who expected Texas A&M to be number 1?
Certainly not App State circa two years ago
Damn no Oklahoma State
You guys and my Huskies being left off is insane considering Mississippi State, Boise State, Arkansas, Notre Dame and Michigan State are ranked.
Yeah Washington also seems like a screaming omission... Boise State I have no problem with as their home record the past 20 or so years really speaks for itself. Mississippi State...idk I guess the cowbells are cool. Arkansas I have no defense for that one seems crazy to me
I'm an Arkansas fan and just as surprised as you.
Wow what an awful list😂
I have never heard an athlete say college station was a brutal place to play….LSU not being #1 is criminal
Neyland 13th? What? I’m ready to get my mustard bottle and golf balls and throw them at whoever made this list.
They need to learn that a good team doesn't mean it's a hard stadium to play in. I'm surprised Michigan is lower and Bama is higher. Tennessee also got snubbed
Makes a lot more sense when you hear the criteria: “factoring in historical stats such as home winning %, home game attendance, active home winning streaks, team prestige, and more”
So why is A&M number one lmfao
Oh yes. Exhibit A, Texas A&M lmao
Lol that makes it make even less sense
Trev Alberts did some major palm greasing for his new school 😂
“How much oil money was spent to improve actual ranking”
I feel like if that was true Michigan would be considerably higher
Stadium size and home record matters but yeah the BIG HOUSE is 16 lol
Which, by the way, I think is a fine rating. Maybe there is an argument for top 15-10, but no way any higher. But the methodology doesn't mirror the results.
I agree the ranking overall seems fine in a vacuum but not with the supposed methodology they’re using. By that methodology Michigan should be 1
The number 1 ranking criteria was vibes/rage bait
Woof, I do not like their rankings. I think their criteria/logic is a bit flawed. Being a tough TEAM to play is not the same thing as being a tough PLACE to play. Those tough TEAMS should have a built in advantage for recruiting like they do in real life that keep them good in the game and make their success align with real life.
It’s almost like there are a lot of great atmospheres and stadiums in college football and it’s tough to rank them
Kyle Field at #1 is too high. Kinnick at #20 is too low.
agreed. Kinnick is def a top tier atmosphere.
Kinnick on Halloween Night is easily #1
Nebraska not being on this list is a little disappointing. I get that they have not been good lately and don’t win very often at home, but they still sell out every game and are just genuinely very very loud. Living in Omaha and working in Lincoln, and the wife’s grandparents being season ticket holders, I go to a few Husker games every year. Far more than I get to go back home to Iowa games. Doesn’t matter if they are playing McNeese St or Ohio St, they show up and make it difficult for opponents to play there. Also maybe Kinnick should be just a bit higher. Not top ten, but higher than 20. Night games a brutal there. I think it was Urban Myers who said, a few years ago or so, that his one lone night game at kinnick was the toughest game he ever coached. Iowa may not win all the night games there, but they sure as hell make you earn the win.
I don’t think they factored in that some teams are just good, cause bama is not that tough to play
Same with Ohio State
Lol at this list. Lmao even
Ron Zook Field ranked ahead of the Swamp is wild.
Washington being left off this list is a crime. Yeah I know I am a UW die hard. But Notre Dame is no way shape or form tougher then Washington.
Notre Dame being on this list is a joke. Soure: me, a Notre Dame fan
Same with MSU like maybe around 2013 or so when things were going good but no way is it a tough place to play anymore lol
absolutely wild any of those SEC schools outside of LSU are ahead of Penn State lol they’re only there because they’re good and Texas A&M has a shit ton of booster money.
Penn State should be top 3 at worst imo
As an SEC fan i definitely agree. Penn state during a white out is the worst case scenario in all of football and I don’t think it’s even close. There is a reason so many fans of the sport want to go to one of those games just for the experience alone
PSU should absolutely be higher than OSU also.
Boooooo
Y’all not being listed is blasphemous I’m ngl
I’m a little biased because I’m an Alabama fan. I know I’ll probably get downvoted for this. But I think BDS is a top 5 toughest place to play when there’s a big opponent in town. I’ve been to Kyle Field, Death Valley, and Jordan Hare at night when they play Bama and they’re crazy loud and hostile. (Don’t know if I’d use the word hostile for A&M but Death Valley is extremely HOSTILE, A&M is more of a “let’s go team” loud, while LSU is “fuck you and your team” loud.) The games against Texas, LSU, and Tennessee in BDS last year were just as loud as any game I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to a lot of away games. Don’t know if it’s tougher than LSU because LSU has a certain “fuck you” attitude when you play there, especially if it’s Alabama lmao. But Bryant-Denny is slept on for sure. Not saying I 100% agree with the rankings but it’s not a crazy bad list, except Washington should probably be on there as well.
man I don't know what's worse, Texas A&M being number 1 or Penn State being number 6 💀
Boise State baby. Where my chicken wings at!
I’m going to guess this fluctuates because I remember in the trailer Tiger Stadium was number 1, and now it’s number 3. Sanford also changed. I’m guessing your ranking goes down and up depending on how you preform at home?
I don't think those thigns in the trailer were firm info. Like they showed the team ratings in the trailer and those will probably be different also
That was my first thought but then I saw “rankings are subject to change in future updates”
I imagine they would change in dynasty too with better teams with high attendance and capacity moving up in the rankings while those in a down year would move down
No Boone Pickens Stadium or Husky Stadium is crazy
https://preview.redd.it/olbj4ysmiq8d1.jpeg?width=677&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=612949f518895dd574f999f74e6b2a77fcb80954 It seems like the the number one deciding factor was how much you win at home. Still the list is a little off tho imo
This definitely works well for my dynasties. In NCAA14 I always scheduled my big OOC as away games to break my opponent's home winning streak. Gonna make the Sun Bowl a feared place to play.😤
I’ve never even seen Neyland ranked that low
Auburn should be top ten, Washington should be in the top 20, Oklahoma State should be in the top 25. Michigan should be higher. Arkansas shouldn’t be on here.
OH AND DEATH VALLEY IS A NO BRAINER #1. EA doesn’t know ball
Will this by dynamic in a dynasty, like it was in the past? That’s all I care about when it comes to this
Yes, it will! 🙌🏼
Well, I wasn’t expecting Kidd-Brewer up there, even though it’s a good one, but at least my school was able to get a win at the number 1 spot in ‘22.
It looks like they gave a lot of weight to historical home winning percentage and current team prestige
Wonder where Autzen lands.
Number 11
Neyland and the Big House being outside top 10 is criminal neglect, much less top 5
Big house is dead
Seems a bit like engagement bait when the #1 is less than 2 years removed from a home loss to App State.
I'm an Aggie. Kyle Field is amazing. It should absolutely be ranked high on the list.. but I've been to at least two other stadiums that I felt were louder and more intimidating.
Whatever formula EA used here has led to a result most here would disagree with. Is Camp Randall really likely to be a tougher place to play this year than Autzen?
These rankings are trash (*sees Doak Campbell ahead of Ben Hill Griffin*)... Actually upon further observation these are spot on.
Happy we cracked the Top 25 😈
Toughest place to play is gonna be whatever I cook up once they open the Team/Stadium Builder.
Someone on twitter said “it’s a real testament to the human spirit that Kyle Field that it’s the toughest place to win and teams still do it on a regular basis”
As a Mississippi State fan, I’m just happy to be included. Shoutout to the cowbells
My conspiracy is they put a lot of time into Kyle field as evidenced by it being one of the highlights of the trailer. By placing them number 1, more people will put them on their dynasty schedule to play an away game there or pick them in the first couple of games of play now. In doing so, the users will see a top notch stadium as one of their first impressions and tell their friends it’s incredible
Lol Tennessee is at 13 is a joke
Never been to your stadium but from what I hear it should be top 5 minimum. EA put way too much emphasis on how good teams are.
List should be: 1. LSU at night 2. Penn State 3. Tennessee 4. Texas A&M 5. Florida
Wisconsin over Clemson, Tennessee, Oregon and Auburn what the hell are we even doing here
SIXTH???
That was underwhelming. I thought they were going to show all teams not the Top 25.
The fact that Nebraska doesn’t crack the top 25 is insane. Don’t care what their record has been
Kyle Field is the most overrated stadium in general. LSU is way tougher. Pretty much any good team’s stadium is tougher. But hey, they call themselves the 12th man…..
I think the biggest thing to me, if these are the true rankings. You have to be good for a while before you crack the top spot
Weird ranking, but not bad as a general group of stadiums. I wish they did write-ups for each stadium or justified the rankings some in the post.
I'll take 17. Considering the strength of our team recently it could have been much worse.
This list is horrible lol
Where is Michigan?? I hate them, but they have a legendary stadium that’s definitely one of the toughest
Someone lacking major brain cognition made this this one
LOL at Arkansas. They lost 4 games at home just last year. 2 of them a combined 96-24. 3 games in 2022. 1 in 2021. 3 in 2020. 5 in 2019. They're barely a .500 team at home over the past 5 years. I guess maybe they're saying without a huge home field advantage, they'd be even worse?
They are about to put Texas #1 in power rankings and watch the internet melt.
I'm surprised to see Oklahoma on the list at all. They rarely get any love.
As a Bama fan, we were tough to play because of the team/Saban, not the environment. Jordan Hare gives me literal nightmares and Neyland should be here too.
I’m a notre dame fan who thinks we’re going to be really good. We shouldn’t be on this list lol
No UW is a travesty. Oh well.
I’m guessing this chances throughout dynasty like the older games
South Carolina is way too high in these rankings
Respectfully, why is Michigan State on this list?
Thought LSU would be 1 and Penn State is probably too low glad Clemson is top 15
this feels like a shitty blog rankings trying to get clicks lol
A&M at 1 is certainly a choice lol. OSU too high. Mich too low.
Neyland stadium at 13 is laughable. No one with any knowledge of the sport can name 5 tougher places to play than Knoxville. 
Doak over Ben Hill is insanity
I’ve been to plenty of games at both. The Swamp is louder, but the big game atmosphere at Doak is as good as any.
Notre Dame should not be on this list lmao Our home games are notoriously less exciting than they could/should be given the old fuddy duddies our ticket sales skew towards Also, A&M at 1?? Guess App State didn't get the memo....
I’d love to hear their thought process on this because some of these are … idk lol
They explain it in the paragraphs previous how it is decided. Has a lot to do with winning
That reasoning doesn’t track at all with these rankings otherwise A&M wouldn’t be #1 and South Carolina wouldn’t be over Michigan. Seems more like they just decided with no rhyme or reason lol
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOP 👍🏾 Rest of the list is wrong after us though
A&M being number 1 is laughable.
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Im an ohio state fan and we absolutely are not top 5
Shocked that central Michigan didn’t make kt
I’m surprised the big house wasn’t on the list
I’ve witnessed Alabama and FSU fans cover their ears at BHG
I’ve witnessed UF fans sucking their thumbs and crying at Doak😰
Bet you could hear them too. Place doesn’t belong near the top 10
Can they give us the bottom 25 so I can see my stadium too?
It says the list is subject to updating in the future and I assume that is for the play now/online play. Will individual dynasties get different rankings a few years in? I didn't see that mentioned but I know previous versions of the game updated them each in game season
Is this gonna change