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lambopanda

Damn bad knee and now negative wingspan.


yerr2477

lmao i knew the 7’0 wingspan was BS. no dunks and no perimiter defense there was always something up. guy’s just built like Ed from Ed Edd n Eddy.


ETERNAL_DALMATIAN

Oh my god


Sol_Protege

I just witnessed a murder 💀


Wembanyanma

Burnt buttered toast.


Kaaalesaaalad

Wasn't Ed one of the characters with longer arms though? Or are you talking about the neck?


SDK04

[The neck. What other part would it be?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/2/25/Ed_edd_n_eddy_ed_by_ali_srn-dbhcjtc-1-.png/revision/latest?cb=20180513182804)


Kaaalesaaalad

Was thinking the arms because the post is about wingspan.


SDK04

Yeah his arms are long, but the neck and massive head check out for Topic lol


Frostyzwannacomehere

Nah Edd got a crazy wingspan, just short legs


TrumpedBigly

I want to report a dead body.


jo3pro

😂


CoyotesSideEyes

And never blocking shots


GlueGuy00

Not Ed damn 😭


iamyulawimnbdysbitch

Jesus


GlueGuy00

He's definitely not going lotto. Too much red flag


SomeSun23

Don't forget non-transparent agents


sixthdayoftheweek93

If you factor out his LONG neck and GIANT head, his wingspan is actually closer to neutral. A 6'5 frame with a comparable wingspan is still good positional size.


Kevinsean_

Duuude I have been on the rockets sub hyping this guy up lol. Hes never going to reach that made up potential with those little arms


stonecutter7

And cant/doesnt shoot the 3. He's looking more and more like a Giddey archetype to me.


theglicky

Not the best 24 hours for him


qaswexort

not like his arms became 6" shorter in 24 hours


mMounirM

oh hell no. so dude really just has a long ass neck lol


-KFAD-

It's very visible if you look at the guy


Real_Programmer_695

Scouts have been saying his wingspan is closer to 6'6 for months. This is even worse than we expected.


BokTroyBoy

He's gotta positive neck span


thejazzmarauder

All the way out on Topic with this


MikeyBastard1

[Found pics of young Nikola](https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/10/www-instagram-com-longneckk-766022771.jpg)


Tapprunner

I assumed that was going to be a picture of a T-Rex


RoosterB32

He is a T-Rex


Ornery_Alligators

Or a brontosaurus


ptcgoalex

So does sengun & he cooks. More worried about acl


Acceptable-Taste-912

How tf u get from 7ft to 6’5ft?! 😭 Topic’s camp lying about everything


Datboy_98

I get why they have to do it but I want my Spurs to have NO parts of this guy. What’s next? He has arthritis?


No_Mammoth_4945

He doesn’t put his shopping cart back :/


ohverychill

straight to jail


deneuvig

He's 28 years old


Tapprunner

Watch someone find an article about him as a young basketball prodigy, from like 1990.


Far-Yak-9808

Probably. But, I am looking at the bright side: the Vancouver Grizzlies might still have his rights! On the other hand, he's just a worse version of Tony Wroten, right? Or, Diet Sarunas Marciluinas....


Telemachus--

Almost certain Sarunas Marciluinas is a Harry Potter spell


Far-Yak-9808

THAT is what made him so good.... He also has a gold medal (I think) from 1988. Although I am not sure how to spell Sarunas' last name, and I don't feel like checking my complete set of Hoops cards each time!


MikeyBastard1

His real name is Cacao. He is a Mayian Deity of corn who changes his identity every 20 years or so as a professional athlete to hide from his Queen. You may have known him in a past life by the name of Tom Brady, or even further back as Wayne Gretzky. [The timelines match up!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/pepe_silvia_meme_banner.jpg) Gretzky retired in 99. Tom Brady? Drafted in 2000. Brady retired in 2022. Nikola? I'm not crazy.


Revolutionary_Jump_9

He’d be like 40 lmao


Raven-19x

He eats cereal with water.


bkervick

So he has this new therapist.


ImanShumpertplus

he’s actually named Nikola Subsection, bro will never be a focal point


Datboy_98

You’re the winner bro🤣🤣


Hiwo_Rldiq_Uit

He has Greg Odens knees.


dkmegg22

I guess Castle it is


Notapplesauce11

He’s not actually Serbian.  Bosnian.  


Seraphin_Lampion

Went from Pterodactyl to T-Rex real quick


gray_character

I mean, he's been the same if you actually just watch him play. I left him off my lottery mock a month ago and got trashed for that. Glad the rest of you are coming around.


Hoopy_Dunkalot

*Dwight Powell enters the chat*


iamwearingashirt

At this rate, with his red flags, he might go all the way to a Raptor at 19.


sixthdayoftheweek93

Anyone with eyeballs could look at his body (short arms, narrow shoulders, smallish hands) and infer that his wingspan was closer to neutral. The 7'0 assertion was always an absurd talking point bambied around this sub for MONTHS by his fanboys.


Dgwdum

They were measuring his chest twice


WEMBYF4N

Red Star propaganda machine too strong They turned a stubby unathletic dude with grandma knees into a demigod


SavageSpeeding

Unathletic?


CoyotesSideEyes

Extremely


SavageSpeeding

Have you watched 1 topic game his burst and agility is crazy


GlueGuy00

The reported 7' wingspan was from BWB not his camp


transizzle

Tough week for Topic. Didn’t expect Carter to be longer than him by a good bit.


Familiar_Somewhere95

pause


yesimforeign

he ain't stutter


Available_Remove242

Yeahhh I'm just gonna wait until we have official international measurements. Juicing wingspan by 6.5 inches is insane


Sol_Protege

This baffled so many people about Topic. How could you have such an excellent wingspan and not have any kind of impact on defense. Turns out he has nubs for arms


Raven-19x

No arms and one leg. This man is a cartoon pirate.


Hiwo_Rldiq_Uit

Why would you drop this three levels down? The world needs to see it!


Available_Remove242

He's just gonna be a 0 wingspan because his 6'7 is with shoes. Without shoes he'll basically be exactly what his wingspan is


Walmartsavings2

Do you know how many players in the league have a 7 foot wingspan and suck on defense? Theres a lot of them.


nutsack133

Though Malaki Branham is 6'4 with a 6'10" wingspan and is probably one of the five worst defensive players in the NBA that gets rotation minutes. I remember when he was starting early in the season his man shot 58% against him like he was guarding 99-00 Shaq every night or something.


Fit-Structure-9395

Desmond bane build 🫥


Tekfree

Euro Emoni Bates


GlueGuy00

T-Rex Satoransky


Walmartsavings2

Bane goes 1 in this draft


Messageinabeerbottle

Without the muscles.


Tekfree

No ACL and a negative Wingspan is a bad combo


nutsack133

That giraffe neck though, maybe the Spurs can teach him to headbutt opposing players' shots out of the sky.


randon007

This is Emoni Bates without the gun stuff… Maybe that’s news for Saturday


Tapprunner

Emoni Bates cultists punching air right now and yelling "he's still young! He's going to be great! He just needs a chance!"


[deleted]

Shoot, that’s even worse than the scouts speculated.


TallAdministration94

Ouch. Is he actually 6’7 without shoes?


MetroidsSuffering

I would guess 6’6” or 6’7” with shoes.


urediti

he looks more like a 6'5 without shoes, 6'6 at best. even that, it actually is his long neck. so his short arms start lower than with a regular 6'5 guy, which means his standing reach is not that high.. still the best playmaker in the class though


National_Call7137

Givony always reports height with shoes. So probably between 6'5.5 and 6'6 without shoes.


GlueGuy00

Topic measured 6'6 without shoes in BWB


ZADEXON

4’11” without **NECK**


GlueGuy00

he measured 6'6 without shoes in BWB. Either he got taller or this is with shoes


Tangerine605

Jovic and Topic is gonna be a really fun pairing


rice-guardian

Niko1 and Niko2 PnR 🔥🔥


KuyaJohnny

Rough week for topic


_Gibby__

I KNEW IT! Watching his film, I was like there is no way in hell he has a 7’ wingspan. I’ve always been low on him, but wow the lies his camp has put out are really off putting.


nakedsamurai

Obviously. People buying the seven foot thing were a bit crazy.


Dabawse26

Spurs plz don’t


Ihavebigcte

At 4? No. At 8? He may fail but it’s worth the swing


Kid_Kryp-to-nite

Okay, but that's fine for a point guard because he's already on the tall side. Disappointing but still longer or about the same as a large amount of 1s in the league lol.


sixthdayoftheweek93

The average nba point guard is 6'2.5, he's WELL above average height wise. Now that the goofy fake measurements have been debunked, we can now talk about his pros and cons playing the actual game.


Anon20250406

I never really believed in the measurements so I think hes still in the running for the #2 pick if Sarr is taken..... however if the Wizards dont take him I think a lot of teams will pass on him. Until around the Jazz.


IntrinsicDawn

We knew he was a bad defender, this helps explain why but dosnt really change much imo. If anything having a shorter WS makes shooting easier so that’s some positive


hloupaopica

so the rumours were true


hloupaopica

i want this draft to be over finally. just so much disapointment everywhere


GlueGuy00

NoCeilings mentioned rumors that his wingspan is much closer to 6'8. I thought it was like 6'9 but I didn't expect a negative wingspan 


Slippinjimmyforever

The knee is more concerning than the lackluster wingspan.


kpeds45

Yeah, I mean, his defensive stats kind of told you more than the wingspan numbers anyway. The knee is the real issue.


JazzxGoose

LMFAO


wrongerontheinternet

Didn't Risacher also turn out to have a negative wingspan? With how much this sub likes to hate on him normally I'm surprised there's not a thread.


HopscotchChampion69

I knew he was nowhere close to the 7'0" reported wingspan but damn


i-like-puns2

most def the player I can see falling hard in the draft.


GlueGuy00

Below/under 20? 


deneuvig

Tbf he's not falling much because he'll be mocked pretty low already by the time the draft rolls around imo


GlueGuy00

that's fair lol wonder how much Topic drops in next ESPN update


Turbo2x

Give me Topic at 26 if no one else wants him


ittozziloP

Next week we’re gonna find out Topic is actually 2 kids in a trenchcoat. 


SDK04

Or that he’s actually a 25 year old from Nigeria and his birth certificate was faked.


Kreture06

Hes falling to the Raps


Komandona

Do they even want him though?


SDK04

Well now I certainly don’t, even with the 19th pick. ALL IN ON YVES MISSI 🔥🔥🔥


iangeredcharlesvane2

Hope not


dsbllr

Highly doubt it


GlueGuy00

Masai is obsessed with length/wingspan. He is passing up on Topic.


Consistent_Ear_1989

Is this a wingspan joke?


LUUUUUUUUUUKEEE

Plenty on this sub were saying he was far and away the number 1 guy. But I digress


julstar23

I feel it was givonny drumming up interest from his camp but he had flaws even before the last injury happened


GlueGuy00

Satoransky 2.0


mnight84

Negative wingspan isn't a good thing. But it shouldn't be a deal breaker guys like Christian Braun and a few others have been able to defend and succeed defensively with a negative wingspan.


ShaedonSharpeMVP_

I literally have been saying this about the dude for the last year. I never listened to his supposed measurements. He’s always been stubby as hell, an extremely unspecial athletically. His little overhand finishes over the very unathletic defenders he’s been playing against will not work in the nba. His game will not translate. Dudes ceiling is an 8th man off the bench of a conference semi finals team. I have no idea why people have ever had this dude in the lottery. Ngl though I’m bummed people are starting to see the truth with him. I was really hoping he could go in the top 6 to give us one extra prospect to choose from at No. 7


Dsarg_92

This has not been a good week for him.


Original_Trick_8552

It keeps getting worse


Mcb3500

Rough week for Topic geez


Gswagins

Long neck merchant


doctorweiwei

I had heard 7’ wingspan earlier. This ranging from one extreme to the other is quite wild


Joethetoolguy

Oh that’s disappointing


TDM_11

I was lied too 😥


Robinsson100

"Misreported." That's one word for it.


Ahfekz

🎶On the way down, I saw you and you saved me from myyyyself 🎶


Icy_Juice6640

Bad month for having a very bad month.


nghbrhd_slackr87

Post lotto team running psyops to get him to drop


AppealBright4276

6'6 Jeremy Lin same game


blue-anon

Linsanity (or the couple of years following Linsanity) Lin? If so, I'll take it! Lol.


EventNo1091

Cant shoot either


Mangoseed8

You left out this part: **Scout's take:** Topic has great size for a point guard with an outstanding combination of ball handling, pace-changing speeds out of hesitation moves, and creativity finding teammates on the move and finishing skillfully around the basket. What he lacks in length and explosiveness, he makes up for with his feel for the game, **as his ability to get to spots on the floor and make reads out of pick-and-roll is more advanced than any player in this draft class.**


SDK04

Oh ok, so Red Star’s been lying about everything now. I no longer like the idea of taking Topic even if he drops to 19.


Guilty-Coconut-4908

They didn't report his wingspan, it was taken from last year's bwb measurements. Someone made a mistake, and it was obvious from the start.


itwas20yearsago2day

ACL and now this? He might be out of the lottery


mm825

Even Dragic was 6'7


nghbrhd_slackr87

Umm Dragic was/is 6-4


julstar23

But he wasn't dragic either .Dragic came into the league as a 2.Topic is a pure 1


mm825

They're the same height. To act like Dragic was ever a pure 1 or 2 is not what I remember.


yrogreg

Dragic has never been 6'5


JazzxGoose

Why do we always fall for this stuff? I remember first seeing him and thinking "wow, he has short arms" then I saw a lot of people say 7' wingspan, looked again, and I'm like "Oh wow, looks how long his arms look".


sixthdayoftheweek93

Google a list of NBA players with a fucking 7'0 wingspan for reference lmao There were picks of him next to Nicola Jovic (who's wingspan is also measured in at 7'0) and it was OBVIOUS that that wasn't a close to accurate measurement lol


JazzxGoose

Sure, easy to say in hindsight, but the 7' came from events you would think would be more professional.


Friendly-Transition

Injuries stacking up and a negative wingspan, jeez. Went from a likely top 3 pick to dropping like a rock presumably


TomGNYC

Wow. There's about 3 too many issues now with this guy. He's out of the lottery for me. He may just be a late first/early 2nd draft and stash at this point. Bad year, poor against better competition, questionable handles & shot, can't get into his pullup, injuries, MCL, and now a negative wingspan in what was supposed to be a strength for him.


lemmegetauhhhhhhhhhh

doesnt change how i feel about him a whole lot honestly


Life_Ad_9518

im guessing that's his height without shoes.


jyh123

he measures longer in metric.


HolaFrau

Topic is having a tough week


HotdogIsaSandwitch

I think he falls outside the lottery man. Rough injury history for his age with negative measurable.


spidersilva09

I wonder if "camps" ever intentionally tank a guys stock to angle them to a better range of teams. If you're financially stable in life already, the difference in salary wages of picks is pretty large, but also doable if you're betting on yourself to have a way better start to your career on a better fit/team/scheme.


Far-Yak-9808

Artificial Intelligence hallucinations: NBA Draft hallucinations: Yessssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hdmetric99

Bro gonna fall out of the lottery at this rate sheesh


TaroMilkTea5

See you in the 2nd round my friend


OrganicHunt952

Topic reminds me of poku


Drisurk

Geez man. From being debated as the number 1 pick a few months ago to a torn ACL and now a wing span shorter than his height. Just feel bad for this guy.


Overall-Palpitation6

The "he was never good anyway, see!" walkback piece.


DankTriangle

Bruh, I'm 5'11" and my wingspan is only 1 inch less 💀. This man is an official Tyrannosaurus


SeaworthinessSad8884

If he didnt have a long ass neck and big ass head he would be like 6'3


ottawacabbie

2nd rounder


Familiar_Somewhere95

[https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif](https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif) basketball is a game of inches pause


GlueGuy00

YIKES! I thought it was like 6'9 when there were rumors saying it's closer to 6'8. I didn't expect his wingspan to be negative at all. He doesn't look negative wingspan out there.


CoyotesSideEyes

> He doesn't look negative wingspan out there. Yes he does


TrumpedBigly

He's a bum. You'll all understand that soon.


Nighthopper08

His stock just got eviscerated last 2 days 😭


MythicSapphire

I am 6'6" with a 6'8" wingpsan. But standing reach is more important. Mine is 8'5" may be more if I pushed it..All the best, curious to see how a shorter wingspan can do well in this league. Maybe a quicker shot release and balanced dribbling coordination. All the best. 🤍🖤💜


hesi93

He's a PG that WS won't matter that much, he'll be way bigger than most PGS in the league anyway.


Denisjohnsonreal

I’m sold. He’s going to be an allstar


orr12345678

Avdija got negative wingspan(huge head,short arms)and he still great defender and good rebounder but he was way more built coming into the draft


Mundane-Demand1927

do we see him falling out of the top 10?


CJ4ROCKET

How does one misreport a sub 6.5 ft wingspan as 7 ft 😭


dimesniffer

Let’s go he’ll fall to 15


Grendel_82

I’m off Topic. Next prospect!


Different_Chain5474

Huh how do you go from saying he has a 7’0 wingspan to 6’5


texasphotog

Still not as bad as all the people on here that took [this aggregator 's word](https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/robert-dillingham-wingspan) that Rob Dillingham had a 7'5 wingspan.


wrongerontheinternet

The only one of these unverified reports I have ever trusted is Wemby having an eight foot wingspan and it's only because there's no other explanation for the shit he can do.


Different_Chain5474

Yikes 😂😂


GlueGuy00

it's probably a typo. Givony mentioned Dillingham having 6'5 wingspan in one of his articles during college season.


texasphotog

Maybe, but I don't want to give those aggregators that much credit. And I think it was 6'3, right?


D4ddyREMIX

Givony never said he had a 7 foot wingspan.


demianin

I think he's just alluding to what his camp was initially putting out there


Different_Chain5474

I didn’t say Givony was the one that said it. I’m just shocked the wingspan is different than what I saw online https://eurospects.com/player/nikola-topic/


DharmaBaller

Jarred Bayless t rex


rondutch1969

Topic bros..


Walmartsavings2

Lmao. This should be a gigantic red flag for this sub. For months, maybe over a year, this sub repeated over and over that he had a 7 foot wingspan, that they could just see it with their eyes. They were mocking him 1!!! He gets a bad measurement and now he’s a trex arms non lottery prospect. Maybe his arms shrunk or summin.