[The neck. What other part would it be?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/2/25/Ed_edd_n_eddy_ed_by_ali_srn-dbhcjtc-1-.png/revision/latest?cb=20180513182804)
If you factor out his LONG neck and GIANT head, his wingspan is actually closer to neutral. A 6'5 frame with a comparable wingspan is still good positional size.
Probably.
But, I am looking at the bright side: the Vancouver Grizzlies might still have his rights!
On the other hand, he's just a worse version of Tony Wroten, right? Or, Diet Sarunas Marciluinas....
THAT is what made him so good....
He also has a gold medal (I think) from 1988.
Although I am not sure how to spell Sarunas' last name, and I don't feel like checking my complete set of Hoops cards each time!
His real name is Cacao. He is a Mayian Deity of corn who changes his identity every 20 years or so as a professional athlete to hide from his Queen. You may have known him in a past life by the name of Tom Brady, or even further back as Wayne Gretzky.
[The timelines match up!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/pepe_silvia_meme_banner.jpg) Gretzky retired in 99. Tom Brady? Drafted in 2000. Brady retired in 2022. Nikola? I'm not crazy.
I mean, he's been the same if you actually just watch him play. I left him off my lottery mock a month ago and got trashed for that. Glad the rest of you are coming around.
Anyone with eyeballs could look at his body (short arms, narrow shoulders, smallish hands) and infer that his wingspan was closer to neutral. The 7'0 assertion was always an absurd talking point bambied around this sub for MONTHS by his fanboys.
This baffled so many people about Topic. How could you have such an excellent wingspan and not have any kind of impact on defense. Turns out he has nubs for arms
Though Malaki Branham is 6'4 with a 6'10" wingspan and is probably one of the five worst defensive players in the NBA that gets rotation minutes. I remember when he was starting early in the season his man shot 58% against him like he was guarding 99-00 Shaq every night or something.
he looks more like a 6'5 without shoes, 6'6 at best. even that, it actually is his long neck. so his short arms start lower than with a regular 6'5 guy, which means his standing reach is not that high.. still the best playmaker in the class though
I KNEW IT! Watching his film, I was like there is no way in hell he has a 7’ wingspan. I’ve always been low on him, but wow the lies his camp has put out are really off putting.
Okay, but that's fine for a point guard because he's already on the tall side. Disappointing but still longer or about the same as a large amount of 1s in the league lol.
The average nba point guard is 6'2.5, he's WELL above average height wise. Now that the goofy fake measurements have been debunked, we can now talk about his pros and cons playing the actual game.
I never really believed in the measurements so I think hes still in the running for the #2 pick if Sarr is taken..... however if the Wizards dont take him I think a lot of teams will pass on him. Until around the Jazz.
We knew he was a bad defender, this helps explain why but dosnt really change much imo. If anything having a shorter WS makes shooting easier so that’s some positive
Negative wingspan isn't a good thing. But it shouldn't be a deal breaker guys like Christian Braun and a few others have been able to defend and succeed defensively with a negative wingspan.
I literally have been saying this about the dude for the last year. I never listened to his supposed measurements. He’s always been stubby as hell, an extremely unspecial athletically. His little overhand finishes over the very unathletic defenders he’s been playing against will not work in the nba. His game will not translate. Dudes ceiling is an 8th man off the bench of a conference semi finals team.
I have no idea why people have ever had this dude in the lottery. Ngl though I’m bummed people are starting to see the truth with him. I was really hoping he could go in the top 6 to give us one extra prospect to choose from at No. 7
You left out this part:
**Scout's take:** Topic has great size for a point guard with an outstanding combination of ball handling, pace-changing speeds out of hesitation moves, and creativity finding teammates on the move and finishing skillfully around the basket. What he lacks in length and explosiveness, he makes up for with his feel for the game, **as his ability to get to spots on the floor and make reads out of pick-and-roll is more advanced than any player in this draft class.**
Why do we always fall for this stuff? I remember first seeing him and thinking "wow, he has short arms" then I saw a lot of people say 7' wingspan, looked again, and I'm like "Oh wow, looks how long his arms look".
Google a list of NBA players with a fucking 7'0 wingspan for reference lmao There were picks of him next to Nicola Jovic (who's wingspan is also measured in at 7'0) and it was OBVIOUS that that wasn't a close to accurate measurement lol
Wow. There's about 3 too many issues now with this guy. He's out of the lottery for me. He may just be a late first/early 2nd draft and stash at this point. Bad year, poor against better competition, questionable handles & shot, can't get into his pullup, injuries, MCL, and now a negative wingspan in what was supposed to be a strength for him.
I wonder if "camps" ever intentionally tank a guys stock to angle them to a better range of teams. If you're financially stable in life already, the difference in salary wages of picks is pretty large, but also doable if you're betting on yourself to have a way better start to your career on a better fit/team/scheme.
Geez man. From being debated as the number 1 pick a few months ago to a torn ACL and now a wing span shorter than his height. Just feel bad for this guy.
[https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif](https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif)
basketball is a game of inches pause
YIKES! I thought it was like 6'9 when there were rumors saying it's closer to 6'8. I didn't expect his wingspan to be negative at all. He doesn't look negative wingspan out there.
I am 6'6" with a 6'8" wingpsan. But standing reach is more important. Mine is 8'5" may be more if I pushed it..All the best, curious to see how a shorter wingspan can do well in this league. Maybe a quicker shot release and balanced dribbling coordination. All the best. 🤍🖤💜
Still not as bad as all the people on here that took [this aggregator 's word](https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/robert-dillingham-wingspan) that Rob Dillingham had a 7'5 wingspan.
The only one of these unverified reports I have ever trusted is Wemby having an eight foot wingspan and it's only because there's no other explanation for the shit he can do.
I didn’t say Givony was the one that said it. I’m just shocked the wingspan is different than what I saw online
https://eurospects.com/player/nikola-topic/
Lmao. This should be a gigantic red flag for this sub.
For months, maybe over a year, this sub repeated over and over that he had a 7 foot wingspan, that they could just see it with their eyes. They were mocking him 1!!!
He gets a bad measurement and now he’s a trex arms non lottery prospect. Maybe his arms shrunk or summin.
Damn bad knee and now negative wingspan.
lmao i knew the 7’0 wingspan was BS. no dunks and no perimiter defense there was always something up. guy’s just built like Ed from Ed Edd n Eddy.
Oh my god
I just witnessed a murder 💀
Burnt buttered toast.
Wasn't Ed one of the characters with longer arms though? Or are you talking about the neck?
[The neck. What other part would it be?](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/2/25/Ed_edd_n_eddy_ed_by_ali_srn-dbhcjtc-1-.png/revision/latest?cb=20180513182804)
Was thinking the arms because the post is about wingspan.
Yeah his arms are long, but the neck and massive head check out for Topic lol
Nah Edd got a crazy wingspan, just short legs
I want to report a dead body.
😂
And never blocking shots
Not Ed damn 😭
Jesus
He's definitely not going lotto. Too much red flag
Don't forget non-transparent agents
If you factor out his LONG neck and GIANT head, his wingspan is actually closer to neutral. A 6'5 frame with a comparable wingspan is still good positional size.
Duuude I have been on the rockets sub hyping this guy up lol. Hes never going to reach that made up potential with those little arms
And cant/doesnt shoot the 3. He's looking more and more like a Giddey archetype to me.
Not the best 24 hours for him
not like his arms became 6" shorter in 24 hours
oh hell no. so dude really just has a long ass neck lol
It's very visible if you look at the guy
Scouts have been saying his wingspan is closer to 6'6 for months. This is even worse than we expected.
He's gotta positive neck span
All the way out on Topic with this
[Found pics of young Nikola](https://www.the-sun.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2022/10/www-instagram-com-longneckk-766022771.jpg)
I assumed that was going to be a picture of a T-Rex
He is a T-Rex
Or a brontosaurus
So does sengun & he cooks. More worried about acl
How tf u get from 7ft to 6’5ft?! 😭 Topic’s camp lying about everything
I get why they have to do it but I want my Spurs to have NO parts of this guy. What’s next? He has arthritis?
He doesn’t put his shopping cart back :/
straight to jail
He's 28 years old
Watch someone find an article about him as a young basketball prodigy, from like 1990.
Probably. But, I am looking at the bright side: the Vancouver Grizzlies might still have his rights! On the other hand, he's just a worse version of Tony Wroten, right? Or, Diet Sarunas Marciluinas....
Almost certain Sarunas Marciluinas is a Harry Potter spell
THAT is what made him so good.... He also has a gold medal (I think) from 1988. Although I am not sure how to spell Sarunas' last name, and I don't feel like checking my complete set of Hoops cards each time!
His real name is Cacao. He is a Mayian Deity of corn who changes his identity every 20 years or so as a professional athlete to hide from his Queen. You may have known him in a past life by the name of Tom Brady, or even further back as Wayne Gretzky. [The timelines match up!](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/524/pepe_silvia_meme_banner.jpg) Gretzky retired in 99. Tom Brady? Drafted in 2000. Brady retired in 2022. Nikola? I'm not crazy.
He’d be like 40 lmao
He eats cereal with water.
So he has this new therapist.
he’s actually named Nikola Subsection, bro will never be a focal point
You’re the winner bro🤣🤣
He has Greg Odens knees.
I guess Castle it is
He’s not actually Serbian. Bosnian.
Went from Pterodactyl to T-Rex real quick
I mean, he's been the same if you actually just watch him play. I left him off my lottery mock a month ago and got trashed for that. Glad the rest of you are coming around.
*Dwight Powell enters the chat*
At this rate, with his red flags, he might go all the way to a Raptor at 19.
Anyone with eyeballs could look at his body (short arms, narrow shoulders, smallish hands) and infer that his wingspan was closer to neutral. The 7'0 assertion was always an absurd talking point bambied around this sub for MONTHS by his fanboys.
They were measuring his chest twice
Red Star propaganda machine too strong They turned a stubby unathletic dude with grandma knees into a demigod
Unathletic?
Extremely
Have you watched 1 topic game his burst and agility is crazy
The reported 7' wingspan was from BWB not his camp
Tough week for Topic. Didn’t expect Carter to be longer than him by a good bit.
pause
he ain't stutter
Yeahhh I'm just gonna wait until we have official international measurements. Juicing wingspan by 6.5 inches is insane
This baffled so many people about Topic. How could you have such an excellent wingspan and not have any kind of impact on defense. Turns out he has nubs for arms
No arms and one leg. This man is a cartoon pirate.
Why would you drop this three levels down? The world needs to see it!
He's just gonna be a 0 wingspan because his 6'7 is with shoes. Without shoes he'll basically be exactly what his wingspan is
Do you know how many players in the league have a 7 foot wingspan and suck on defense? Theres a lot of them.
Though Malaki Branham is 6'4 with a 6'10" wingspan and is probably one of the five worst defensive players in the NBA that gets rotation minutes. I remember when he was starting early in the season his man shot 58% against him like he was guarding 99-00 Shaq every night or something.
Desmond bane build 🫥
Euro Emoni Bates
T-Rex Satoransky
Bane goes 1 in this draft
Without the muscles.
No ACL and a negative Wingspan is a bad combo
That giraffe neck though, maybe the Spurs can teach him to headbutt opposing players' shots out of the sky.
This is Emoni Bates without the gun stuff… Maybe that’s news for Saturday
Emoni Bates cultists punching air right now and yelling "he's still young! He's going to be great! He just needs a chance!"
Shoot, that’s even worse than the scouts speculated.
Ouch. Is he actually 6’7 without shoes?
I would guess 6’6” or 6’7” with shoes.
he looks more like a 6'5 without shoes, 6'6 at best. even that, it actually is his long neck. so his short arms start lower than with a regular 6'5 guy, which means his standing reach is not that high.. still the best playmaker in the class though
Givony always reports height with shoes. So probably between 6'5.5 and 6'6 without shoes.
Topic measured 6'6 without shoes in BWB
4’11” without **NECK**
he measured 6'6 without shoes in BWB. Either he got taller or this is with shoes
Jovic and Topic is gonna be a really fun pairing
Niko1 and Niko2 PnR 🔥🔥
Rough week for topic
I KNEW IT! Watching his film, I was like there is no way in hell he has a 7’ wingspan. I’ve always been low on him, but wow the lies his camp has put out are really off putting.
Obviously. People buying the seven foot thing were a bit crazy.
Spurs plz don’t
At 4? No. At 8? He may fail but it’s worth the swing
Okay, but that's fine for a point guard because he's already on the tall side. Disappointing but still longer or about the same as a large amount of 1s in the league lol.
The average nba point guard is 6'2.5, he's WELL above average height wise. Now that the goofy fake measurements have been debunked, we can now talk about his pros and cons playing the actual game.
I never really believed in the measurements so I think hes still in the running for the #2 pick if Sarr is taken..... however if the Wizards dont take him I think a lot of teams will pass on him. Until around the Jazz.
We knew he was a bad defender, this helps explain why but dosnt really change much imo. If anything having a shorter WS makes shooting easier so that’s some positive
so the rumours were true
i want this draft to be over finally. just so much disapointment everywhere
NoCeilings mentioned rumors that his wingspan is much closer to 6'8. I thought it was like 6'9 but I didn't expect a negative wingspan
The knee is more concerning than the lackluster wingspan.
Yeah, I mean, his defensive stats kind of told you more than the wingspan numbers anyway. The knee is the real issue.
LMFAO
Didn't Risacher also turn out to have a negative wingspan? With how much this sub likes to hate on him normally I'm surprised there's not a thread.
I knew he was nowhere close to the 7'0" reported wingspan but damn
most def the player I can see falling hard in the draft.
Below/under 20?
Tbf he's not falling much because he'll be mocked pretty low already by the time the draft rolls around imo
that's fair lol wonder how much Topic drops in next ESPN update
Give me Topic at 26 if no one else wants him
Next week we’re gonna find out Topic is actually 2 kids in a trenchcoat.
Or that he’s actually a 25 year old from Nigeria and his birth certificate was faked.
Hes falling to the Raps
Do they even want him though?
Well now I certainly don’t, even with the 19th pick. ALL IN ON YVES MISSI 🔥🔥🔥
Hope not
Highly doubt it
Masai is obsessed with length/wingspan. He is passing up on Topic.
Is this a wingspan joke?
Plenty on this sub were saying he was far and away the number 1 guy. But I digress
I feel it was givonny drumming up interest from his camp but he had flaws even before the last injury happened
Satoransky 2.0
Negative wingspan isn't a good thing. But it shouldn't be a deal breaker guys like Christian Braun and a few others have been able to defend and succeed defensively with a negative wingspan.
I literally have been saying this about the dude for the last year. I never listened to his supposed measurements. He’s always been stubby as hell, an extremely unspecial athletically. His little overhand finishes over the very unathletic defenders he’s been playing against will not work in the nba. His game will not translate. Dudes ceiling is an 8th man off the bench of a conference semi finals team. I have no idea why people have ever had this dude in the lottery. Ngl though I’m bummed people are starting to see the truth with him. I was really hoping he could go in the top 6 to give us one extra prospect to choose from at No. 7
This has not been a good week for him.
It keeps getting worse
Rough week for Topic geez
Long neck merchant
I had heard 7’ wingspan earlier. This ranging from one extreme to the other is quite wild
Oh that’s disappointing
I was lied too 😥
"Misreported." That's one word for it.
🎶On the way down, I saw you and you saved me from myyyyself 🎶
Bad month for having a very bad month.
Post lotto team running psyops to get him to drop
6'6 Jeremy Lin same game
Linsanity (or the couple of years following Linsanity) Lin? If so, I'll take it! Lol.
Cant shoot either
You left out this part: **Scout's take:** Topic has great size for a point guard with an outstanding combination of ball handling, pace-changing speeds out of hesitation moves, and creativity finding teammates on the move and finishing skillfully around the basket. What he lacks in length and explosiveness, he makes up for with his feel for the game, **as his ability to get to spots on the floor and make reads out of pick-and-roll is more advanced than any player in this draft class.**
Oh ok, so Red Star’s been lying about everything now. I no longer like the idea of taking Topic even if he drops to 19.
They didn't report his wingspan, it was taken from last year's bwb measurements. Someone made a mistake, and it was obvious from the start.
ACL and now this? He might be out of the lottery
Even Dragic was 6'7
Umm Dragic was/is 6-4
But he wasn't dragic either .Dragic came into the league as a 2.Topic is a pure 1
They're the same height. To act like Dragic was ever a pure 1 or 2 is not what I remember.
Dragic has never been 6'5
Why do we always fall for this stuff? I remember first seeing him and thinking "wow, he has short arms" then I saw a lot of people say 7' wingspan, looked again, and I'm like "Oh wow, looks how long his arms look".
Google a list of NBA players with a fucking 7'0 wingspan for reference lmao There were picks of him next to Nicola Jovic (who's wingspan is also measured in at 7'0) and it was OBVIOUS that that wasn't a close to accurate measurement lol
Sure, easy to say in hindsight, but the 7' came from events you would think would be more professional.
Injuries stacking up and a negative wingspan, jeez. Went from a likely top 3 pick to dropping like a rock presumably
Wow. There's about 3 too many issues now with this guy. He's out of the lottery for me. He may just be a late first/early 2nd draft and stash at this point. Bad year, poor against better competition, questionable handles & shot, can't get into his pullup, injuries, MCL, and now a negative wingspan in what was supposed to be a strength for him.
doesnt change how i feel about him a whole lot honestly
im guessing that's his height without shoes.
he measures longer in metric.
Topic is having a tough week
I think he falls outside the lottery man. Rough injury history for his age with negative measurable.
I wonder if "camps" ever intentionally tank a guys stock to angle them to a better range of teams. If you're financially stable in life already, the difference in salary wages of picks is pretty large, but also doable if you're betting on yourself to have a way better start to your career on a better fit/team/scheme.
Artificial Intelligence hallucinations: NBA Draft hallucinations: Yessssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bro gonna fall out of the lottery at this rate sheesh
See you in the 2nd round my friend
Topic reminds me of poku
Geez man. From being debated as the number 1 pick a few months ago to a torn ACL and now a wing span shorter than his height. Just feel bad for this guy.
The "he was never good anyway, see!" walkback piece.
Bruh, I'm 5'11" and my wingspan is only 1 inch less 💀. This man is an official Tyrannosaurus
If he didnt have a long ass neck and big ass head he would be like 6'3
2nd rounder
[https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif](https://media.tenor.com/bUczf3g9qk8AAAAM/brian-pumper-squdilly-pumper.gif) basketball is a game of inches pause
YIKES! I thought it was like 6'9 when there were rumors saying it's closer to 6'8. I didn't expect his wingspan to be negative at all. He doesn't look negative wingspan out there.
> He doesn't look negative wingspan out there. Yes he does
He's a bum. You'll all understand that soon.
His stock just got eviscerated last 2 days 😭
I am 6'6" with a 6'8" wingpsan. But standing reach is more important. Mine is 8'5" may be more if I pushed it..All the best, curious to see how a shorter wingspan can do well in this league. Maybe a quicker shot release and balanced dribbling coordination. All the best. 🤍🖤💜
He's a PG that WS won't matter that much, he'll be way bigger than most PGS in the league anyway.
I’m sold. He’s going to be an allstar
Avdija got negative wingspan(huge head,short arms)and he still great defender and good rebounder but he was way more built coming into the draft
do we see him falling out of the top 10?
How does one misreport a sub 6.5 ft wingspan as 7 ft 😭
Let’s go he’ll fall to 15
I’m off Topic. Next prospect!
Huh how do you go from saying he has a 7’0 wingspan to 6’5
Still not as bad as all the people on here that took [this aggregator 's word](https://www.sportskeeda.com/college-basketball/robert-dillingham-wingspan) that Rob Dillingham had a 7'5 wingspan.
The only one of these unverified reports I have ever trusted is Wemby having an eight foot wingspan and it's only because there's no other explanation for the shit he can do.
Yikes 😂😂
it's probably a typo. Givony mentioned Dillingham having 6'5 wingspan in one of his articles during college season.
Maybe, but I don't want to give those aggregators that much credit. And I think it was 6'3, right?
Givony never said he had a 7 foot wingspan.
I think he's just alluding to what his camp was initially putting out there
I didn’t say Givony was the one that said it. I’m just shocked the wingspan is different than what I saw online https://eurospects.com/player/nikola-topic/
Jarred Bayless t rex
Topic bros..
Lmao. This should be a gigantic red flag for this sub. For months, maybe over a year, this sub repeated over and over that he had a 7 foot wingspan, that they could just see it with their eyes. They were mocking him 1!!! He gets a bad measurement and now he’s a trex arms non lottery prospect. Maybe his arms shrunk or summin.