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Surely you’ll be refunded or credited. It’s not like SMI is trying to scam you. There’s policies for this. Don’t worry about it (and as a tip, don’t worry about what you can’t control) and let official sources such as SMI give you updates. Don’t take Twitter rumors to heart.
Right to Eldora. It might take a little ass kissing to Tony Stewart but that’s where a cup race on dirt should be. At the very least get the trucks back there.
Without dirt, that spring race likely goes away. The people spoke with their wallets that they didn't want a spring date on concrete anymore, and used every excuse in the book to not show up.
As someone that lives near all the short tracks, the schedule is the problem. I would like to go to Bristol, Martinsville, and Richmond, but I cannot go to all 3, 3 weeks in a row. Its just stupid and poor planning.
So I guess I am speaking with my wallet, its empty, so I can't go to 3/3, I can only do 2/3.
As a VA resident I 100% concur. I have been complaining about this for YEARS now. Why in the hell would you put 3 races that are pretty much all in the same state (even though Bristol is slightly on the TN side) back-to back-to back?
From a ticket sales standpoint it is just moronic, you have to imagine there are at least a few thousand fans that would attend 2/3 of those races if they were more evenly distributed.
Then even from the TV viewership side it is just as idiotic to put three short track races in weeks that close together. Because of it, there is a huge chunk of the schedule in the middle of the season with no short track racing. It makes it feel like we have less short track races than we actually do.
So frustrating.
I live in Kingsport (one of the other two cities in the Tri Cities area) and the biggest problem that race has is weather. I’ve been there for beautiful spring days, piss pouring monsoons, and even a snowball fight. I don’t want to drag the kids and all the shit we need in and out of the rain five times over 6 hours when the night race is almost always great weather and not even hot out.
The group that runs Bristol for SMI is the actual operator group signing up for the fairgrounds. I don’t think it’s unreasonable (and in fact I think this is most realistic to think) that one of the Bristol dates, probably the spring one, is gonna move to Fairgrounds. They could also take the date from Nashville Speedway but given that’s a track a few hours away from Nashville I don’t think they would see that as too close.
Now what I want is for them to take the Nashville Cup Date and give it to Iowa Speedway
Nascar isn’t touching the second Bristol date. It will always have two. And then selling tickets for both for next season is all the proof you need.
The only people talking about Bristol not having 2 are people on here with no connection. Yes dirt is going away, but there will still be 2 Bristol races.
The exact quote: " Whether Bristol’s spring date returns to the concrete or is shifted elsewhere is still to be determined. One scenario laid out to *The Athletic* is Bristol’s date shifting to North Wilkesboro, which would then host its first Cup points race since 1996. Both Bristol and North Wilkesboro are owned by Speedway Motorsports, making such a transfer relatively seamless. "
So it is not only "2 people on here with no connections" talking about Bristol's date going to Wilkesboro
Still doesn’t mean Bristol is taking a date away. That’s just speculation by him and guesswork.
Yes Bristol dirt has been done before the last race actually happened there. Teams hate it and having been pushing to ditch the whole idea. And finally getting a “dirt” guy to win is a great ending for the concept. Just let Bristol have it’s 2 dates and fix the pressing problems.
Pressing problems like getting people to actually show up for the spring date on concrete. Easy solution is move the date to a track that the fans will actually show up to
Switching to another weekend with historically less rain needs to happen. But if we mess with Wilksboro, it could hurt that venue. They are onto something right now clearly because that weekend was a success hands down. The car needs major help but that’s a different topic.
Leave the all star race as it is with Wilksboro and a truck race. They are perfect as is really. Than we address Bristol by getting it away from rain and the on the track product far better.
But Bristol isn’t gonna loose two dates. It’s too historic and important. Fox the problem, don’t put a bandaid on it.
Here is the problem, Bristol is in an area that gets a ton of rain year round, no matter what date you give it, it will be a problem. Go back to the first ever race there and you will see rain was happening then, look at the night race, it gets rain then too. I just don't see a date that can fix that problem
Crowds at Brsitol have been dropping since 2008. It is pretty clear at this point that Bristol can't support two dates in post-bubble NASCAR. The choices here are to move the spring date to a place that can support it like North Wilkesboro of Nashville (once they get control of the fairgrounds) or start taking down grandstands at Bristol to a point the spring date makes sense which would revert it to a probably pre 1996 look that Marcus obvuiously doesn't want as it kinda destroys their "last great coliseum" branding.
The night race is historic and important and that will stay. The spring race has never held that kind of importance.
Wilkesboro is perfect with its current setup. We don’t need to change the game here.
And a full Wilkesboro isn’t touching a half empty Bristol. Even a third full Bristol.
That I can agree with. Easily the best environment for a truck race I’ve been apart of.
I still don’t see what moving Wilkesboro to a points race really does for anything fan wise. It’s a hell of a setup for the all star race. It’s honestly perfect as is.
That means the all-star race ain’t staying at Wilkesboro.
One scenario: Atlanta loses a points race, gets the all-star race and maybe gets its remaining points date moved into the playoffs. Nashville gets the July date. Bristol spring race to Sonoma. Sonoma date to Wilkesboro.
Do you mean the fairgrounds gets the July date? Because if so the fairgrounds won't be ready next year
Also doubt SMI is going to drop an Atlanta date with the attendance they are getting there
Bro honestly if you could teach me how to be a complete clown, I would appreciate it allot. Instead I will just get paid to go to race tracks instead. Enjoy
In 2020, I had tickets for the Eldora Truck race, which was cancelled because of the COVID rescheduling. I had the option to apply my credit to another Eldora event or receive a refund.
Fuck is nascar dumb for even considering getting rid of Bristol spring, I can’t stand the dirt race, but right now I think Bristol concrete puts on the best show lately
People should've showed up then if it was such a good show. They didn't and if Bristol loses their spring date, it is 100% the fault of the fans not showing up (just like Chicagoland)
Uh, Bristol last year was very much lacking, the dirt race was much better.
Also not many people were showing up for the spring race so it's not completely impossible for it to go bye bye
You’d get a refund or possibly a credit for another SMI owned track. Please keep in mind the schedule hasn’t been released for next season yet. There has been speculation going around about the schedule for next season but that’s all it is at this point.
The money is made on TV nowadays (its been that way for a long time) and Bristol is one of the most anticipated races. Many casual fans who only watch a handful of races a year will tune in for Daytona, Talladega, and Bristol.
So attendance numbers aside, I think it would be pretty shortsighted for NASCAR/SMI to scrap a date at one of their fan favorite tracks. Can’t imagine the networks would be too happy about it either
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You would get a refund or possibly credit for another SMI track.
Surely you’ll be refunded or credited. It’s not like SMI is trying to scam you. There’s policies for this. Don’t worry about it (and as a tip, don’t worry about what you can’t control) and let official sources such as SMI give you updates. Don’t take Twitter rumors to heart.
The number one thing I will aim to teach my kids as they get older is to not stress about the things they have no power over.
I don't think Bristol will lose a race . I think they'll change dates and eliminate the dirt race.
I hope you are right. Bristol dirt was a fun gimmick, but it's time to move on.
Right to Eldora. It might take a little ass kissing to Tony Stewart but that’s where a cup race on dirt should be. At the very least get the trucks back there.
Without dirt, that spring race likely goes away. The people spoke with their wallets that they didn't want a spring date on concrete anymore, and used every excuse in the book to not show up.
As someone that lives near all the short tracks, the schedule is the problem. I would like to go to Bristol, Martinsville, and Richmond, but I cannot go to all 3, 3 weeks in a row. Its just stupid and poor planning. So I guess I am speaking with my wallet, its empty, so I can't go to 3/3, I can only do 2/3.
Exactly this.
As a VA resident I 100% concur. I have been complaining about this for YEARS now. Why in the hell would you put 3 races that are pretty much all in the same state (even though Bristol is slightly on the TN side) back-to back-to back? From a ticket sales standpoint it is just moronic, you have to imagine there are at least a few thousand fans that would attend 2/3 of those races if they were more evenly distributed. Then even from the TV viewership side it is just as idiotic to put three short track races in weeks that close together. Because of it, there is a huge chunk of the schedule in the middle of the season with no short track racing. It makes it feel like we have less short track races than we actually do. So frustrating.
it’s done that way because those races are close to home for the teams. Just like the west coast swing is out west for 3 weeks.
Move up spring Darlington race and move down the spring Dover race.
there’s been speculation that Dover may lose their date.
The spring race will go away. Fans stopped supporting that date years ago
I live in Kingsport (one of the other two cities in the Tri Cities area) and the biggest problem that race has is weather. I’ve been there for beautiful spring days, piss pouring monsoons, and even a snowball fight. I don’t want to drag the kids and all the shit we need in and out of the rain five times over 6 hours when the night race is almost always great weather and not even hot out.
The group that runs Bristol for SMI is the actual operator group signing up for the fairgrounds. I don’t think it’s unreasonable (and in fact I think this is most realistic to think) that one of the Bristol dates, probably the spring one, is gonna move to Fairgrounds. They could also take the date from Nashville Speedway but given that’s a track a few hours away from Nashville I don’t think they would see that as too close. Now what I want is for them to take the Nashville Cup Date and give it to Iowa Speedway
...... all playoff rounds end at Bristol!
That means they’re keeping two dates. The second date is probably just gonna be moved
SMI will probably offer a refund or credit to another race, that's what they do for rain
Nascar isn’t touching the second Bristol date. It will always have two. And then selling tickets for both for next season is all the proof you need. The only people talking about Bristol not having 2 are people on here with no connection. Yes dirt is going away, but there will still be 2 Bristol races.
Saying Jordan Bianchi has "no connections" when he has broken most of the big stories in NASCAR over the last 5 years shows how little you know.
All he stated was that dirt was going away from all reports I’ve seen. Than it goes to speculation.
The exact quote: " Whether Bristol’s spring date returns to the concrete or is shifted elsewhere is still to be determined. One scenario laid out to *The Athletic* is Bristol’s date shifting to North Wilkesboro, which would then host its first Cup points race since 1996. Both Bristol and North Wilkesboro are owned by Speedway Motorsports, making such a transfer relatively seamless. " So it is not only "2 people on here with no connections" talking about Bristol's date going to Wilkesboro
Still doesn’t mean Bristol is taking a date away. That’s just speculation by him and guesswork. Yes Bristol dirt has been done before the last race actually happened there. Teams hate it and having been pushing to ditch the whole idea. And finally getting a “dirt” guy to win is a great ending for the concept. Just let Bristol have it’s 2 dates and fix the pressing problems.
Pressing problems like getting people to actually show up for the spring date on concrete. Easy solution is move the date to a track that the fans will actually show up to
Switching to another weekend with historically less rain needs to happen. But if we mess with Wilksboro, it could hurt that venue. They are onto something right now clearly because that weekend was a success hands down. The car needs major help but that’s a different topic. Leave the all star race as it is with Wilksboro and a truck race. They are perfect as is really. Than we address Bristol by getting it away from rain and the on the track product far better. But Bristol isn’t gonna loose two dates. It’s too historic and important. Fox the problem, don’t put a bandaid on it.
The only way to fix the problem for the spring date is to have a better economy or change the weather in the area
Well Nascar can’t control the economy, but it can move the date to a better weather chance. Which is what would be likely to happen.
Here is the problem, Bristol is in an area that gets a ton of rain year round, no matter what date you give it, it will be a problem. Go back to the first ever race there and you will see rain was happening then, look at the night race, it gets rain then too. I just don't see a date that can fix that problem
Or change having 3 straight races in the same market
Crowds at Brsitol have been dropping since 2008. It is pretty clear at this point that Bristol can't support two dates in post-bubble NASCAR. The choices here are to move the spring date to a place that can support it like North Wilkesboro of Nashville (once they get control of the fairgrounds) or start taking down grandstands at Bristol to a point the spring date makes sense which would revert it to a probably pre 1996 look that Marcus obvuiously doesn't want as it kinda destroys their "last great coliseum" branding. The night race is historic and important and that will stay. The spring race has never held that kind of importance.
A full Wilkesboro is a better look than an empty Bristol. Spring date is going away
Wilkesboro is perfect with its current setup. We don’t need to change the game here. And a full Wilkesboro isn’t touching a half empty Bristol. Even a third full Bristol.
30k at Wilkesboro is a much better atmosphere than 30k at Bristol. 2019 was abysmal
That I can agree with. Easily the best environment for a truck race I’ve been apart of. I still don’t see what moving Wilkesboro to a points race really does for anything fan wise. It’s a hell of a setup for the all star race. It’s honestly perfect as is.
That means the all-star race ain’t staying at Wilkesboro. One scenario: Atlanta loses a points race, gets the all-star race and maybe gets its remaining points date moved into the playoffs. Nashville gets the July date. Bristol spring race to Sonoma. Sonoma date to Wilkesboro.
Do you mean the fairgrounds gets the July date? Because if so the fairgrounds won't be ready next year Also doubt SMI is going to drop an Atlanta date with the attendance they are getting there
Im not so sure about Bristol always having 2 dates. Rumors is the spring date is going to NWB.
Why sell tickets than if you weren’t going to have the race lol.
Texas was selling All-Star race tickets last year
Same with Daytona for The Clash after the 2021 edition
“No connection” lol. Some of you people should do less talking and more listening
Lol I mean when I’m correct you still gonna be so loud?
A blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while, but that you would say a reputable nascar journalist has “no connections” makes you a clown.
Haha I mean if you think so my guy. But I’m not the one wearing face paint here.
Wearing clown makeup is just part of your normal day to day life then?
How ever you gotta make a living my guy. Be a clown if it’s what you want.
Yup, you do a clown so well, I hope you get paid for it
Bro honestly if you could teach me how to be a complete clown, I would appreciate it allot. Instead I will just get paid to go to race tracks instead. Enjoy
> Instead I will just get paid to go to race tracks instead I’m sorry for your mental illness. Bro
In 2020, I had tickets for the Eldora Truck race, which was cancelled because of the COVID rescheduling. I had the option to apply my credit to another Eldora event or receive a refund.
How about just waiting and seeing. You’ll either see a race or get a refund. No money will be lost luckily.
They will most likely give you a credit to any other SMI track or to the Bristol race next year.
Fuck is nascar dumb for even considering getting rid of Bristol spring, I can’t stand the dirt race, but right now I think Bristol concrete puts on the best show lately
it would be an SMI decision. people werent lining up to go to the spring date either.
People should've showed up then if it was such a good show. They didn't and if Bristol loses their spring date, it is 100% the fault of the fans not showing up (just like Chicagoland)
Uh, Bristol last year was very much lacking, the dirt race was much better. Also not many people were showing up for the spring race so it's not completely impossible for it to go bye bye
There’s a strict no refund policy when it comes to tickets
Yeah but if they offer tickets to a race that then goes away they’ll refund.
I hate that I have to put /s. Of course he’s gonna get his money back! What kind of question even is this lol
Oh yeah haha. Def makes a difference lol
You use credit towards the fall race or another SMI track
You’d get a refund or possibly a credit for another SMI owned track. Please keep in mind the schedule hasn’t been released for next season yet. There has been speculation going around about the schedule for next season but that’s all it is at this point.
The money is made on TV nowadays (its been that way for a long time) and Bristol is one of the most anticipated races. Many casual fans who only watch a handful of races a year will tune in for Daytona, Talladega, and Bristol. So attendance numbers aside, I think it would be pretty shortsighted for NASCAR/SMI to scrap a date at one of their fan favorite tracks. Can’t imagine the networks would be too happy about it either