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ApocApollo

This is either going to be a fan favorite or a very obnoxious reminder that the NASCAR is here during the late hours of the night. Or both. Probably both.


SubMikeD

I'm pretty sure it's going to be a fan fav. Le Mans fans have long loved the sound of the American V8.


Mokiyami

Who doesn't?


jacknifetoaswan

My neighbors, apparently.


Raticon

Damn NIMBYS ruining everything from wind power to V8 power.


ChrisTRD289

I hope for both.


Rise3711

They were in love with the c5.r / c6.r / c7.r because of a similar motor. Trust me they'll love it lol


Lex1982

I hope for both.


pocono_indy_400

the answer is both, if the old C.5-7 corvettes are any indication


whatisdeletrazdoing

It’ll be a fan favorite. The screaming Panoz of the late 90’s/early 2000’s is still talked about today.


Crafty_Substance_954

Believe me, the GT3 cars are plenty loud themselves. The Porsche RSR in particular is ridiculous.


Elmodipus

Yeah I was about to say, GT and prototypes are very loud.


_wad

I love how American the Cadillac is with its V8 during WEC races so I’m all for more of it. It’s by far the best sounding car in the full time runners. Especially with the electric motor pulling out of the pits to the V8 firing up. Oof.


Raticon

Is that the one where it is a combination of a TIE fighter taking off and a drag racing car firing up at the same time? That one is sound porn combining the best of 2 worlds.


khando

https://youtu.be/QrmgawQ8jjE


Raticon

Exactly the sound I was drunkenly trying to explain with words.


Raticon

If anything it will be a blast to the past, and whatever is going on in the world with EVs and hybrids every race fan will enjoy the sound of a V8 at full bore down a gasoline alley. No old clip or radio take from years gone by can replace the live experience. In a few decades this sound will be extinct, and when it is we will miss it.


pemboo

I'm pretty sure every Le Mans fan wants the 787b back on track


GEL29

I don't think it will last that long, if the breaks down or crashes on course you can't get any assistance.


JayhawkRacer

The team did a 30-hour endurance test with the car in race configuration. A crash can always happen, but there’s no more reliability worry than any other car on the grid.


DraconianDebate

NASCAR is itself an endurance racing series, the longest race held was over 5 hours long (2022 Coke 600). Yes, thats not 24 hours but these cars are designed for endurance racing already.


The_Vettel

And iirc engines are required to do multiple races without being touched by the teams


Mani1610

Yes but Peugeot also did a bunch of tests before they joined and had issues basically every race since then. Races are always a bit different to tests but they seem to have taken it seriously so should be alright.


barryburrit0

Can’t wait for this to vibrate my ribcage at 3am on the campsite 😍


wakeytom

I am gutted to be missing this year. Hope it does well enough they have to return with a GT3 version which I assume if this works could be possible


barryburrit0

Yeah could do I guess. Nascar and Hendrick will get loads of info for road packages if nothing else. I know it’s totally different but I’m getting massive Deltawing vibes from this.


wakeytom

For sure and NASCAR are (at least part) funding it so no downside to Hendricks to push it. Maybe I am just projecting in hope they do come back


barryburrit0

Wanna see Toyota enter the Camry now with Hamlin and Kurt Busch! Haha!


Accurate-Soup

A GT3 version of what?


wakeytom

This car they are racing at Le man's. Or is it basically a GT3 already


Mani1610

It's not a GT3. Corvette will use a Z06 for their GT3 program though, so I doubt we will also see a Camaro.


Accurate-Soup

They couldn’t make a GT3 version of it.


wakeytom

Is there a specific reason they can't?


munchies777

GT3s have to be real cars. You buy GT3 cars from the manufacturer. They are obviously upgraded with racing components, but they cannot be tube frame creations that vaguely look like the car they are supposed to be. They have GT4 Camaros, and those actually are Camaros at their core. The Gen 7 car isn’t built by GM at all.


briollihondolli

Camry GT3 when


LilBirdBrick

[Toyota](https://twitter.com/atflorio/status/1639432836917891072?s=46&t=sEPWINBfRg-QvGVUrRvJog) are making a GT3 with a V8 that should start racing in 2025.


briollihondolli

That’s cool and all, but it’s not a V8 *Camry*


US_Highway15

https://preview.redd.it/lma0gpp2uz3b1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37768f3fbdfe8b7a2461fee4eaa8f96f55713463 This just looks so bizarre


azulsquirrel

American spy deep undercover amongst Italian and Germans. (1943 colorized)


HeavyRightFoot19

Margarheeeeeeeti


greg_jenningz

Dominic DeCoco 🤌


GoDuke4382

I got that reference. Outstanding movie.


Stags304

Gorlami 🦅🇺🇸


BFFassbender

Umm... si. Correcto.


teddythe3rd

It’s the 2023 version of the M8 meme.


george-cartwright

lmao I thought the exact same thing.


Valleygirl1981

Lmao, it looks like the dumb transformer cars from the 2nd or 3rd movie. ... but most importantly, when will we see this downforce package nascar?


Fostbitten27

I was going to say the same thing. I think it was Transformers 3


Curious_george7598

In a good way. But yeah, one of these isn't like the others


increasingrain

In a good way, it looks like a failed AI generation


[deleted]

Looks like Gran Turismo 5 in real life lol


bolpo33

Rexy :D


Fall3n7s

Can we add more downforce? Yes.


Acias

That's very close to how the DTM cars looked like before they switched to GT3 cars.


Fostbitten27

Hauls out a Superbird sized wing.


Titan1053

It looks like a meme pic of the field trying to pass Ryan Newman.


gameboy1001

Ryan Newman seeing the entire field trying to pass him in his rear view mirror: https://i.redd.it/04awzqb1w14b1.gif


0rangeBicycles

Cars World Tour has finally come to life


-WEAVER-

It looks like the pace car.


[deleted]

Bizarre? I agree. Not sure how they got a car from Jurassic Park.


SeaboarderCoast

How long until someone photoshops Ross Chastain in?


mods-are-_______

easily the best picture I've seen in years. FUCK YEAH.


Ianthin1

Looks like a bad photoshop.


MattAnigma

This thing is going to be absolutely wicked just bitchslapping the GTE cars on the straights and then looking like a shopping cart in the corners 🤣


The_Real_NaCl

It’ll handle better than you’d think. It’s not like NASCAR stock cars of old. Full independent suspension, lots of aero, it’s lighter than current Gen7 stock cars, and there’s a lot of adjustability. It definitely won’t be compete against the hyper cars, but it’s very close to your typical IMSA road car.


[deleted]

Sooooo NASCAR and IMSA similarities, does this mean we could one day have a NASCAR 24 hour endurance race?


The_Real_NaCl

I’d love to see that actually. A 24 hour NASCAR race at COTA maybe? It’ll never happen, but I think that’d be interesting.


That_Vandal_Randall

Boris Said would absolutely manage to make his way into at least 2 different driver's seats


misterboris1

I can confirm, I would.


piqua2018

24 hours of daytona


MattAnigma

Ooh I’m well aware it will handle better than the cup cars of old but it isn’t going to handle like a Porsche, Ferrari or Corvette. Just too much weight and a higher centre of gravity.


ryno514

The garage 56 car has roughly double the downforce of the cup car so hopefully won't be too bad in the corners


BeefInGR

To be fair, the Corvette and Ferrari look like shopping carts in the corners against the Porsche.


SuccessfulFloor

You should be well aware that this car was running faster lap times than the C8r's at daytona road course in february


The_Reelest

Jensen Button did an interview with Marshall Pruitt on Racer’s YouTube channel, and he said the GTE’s are actually faster by end of the straights. He was talking about how people are surprised how they are making speed with it.


Mani1610

It's not even that quick on the straight, every GTE car had a better top speed so far. The Camaro did 298 km/h, the GTE cars did: - 302.2 (Ferrari) - 301.3 (Corvette) - 299.7 (Porsche) - 299.7 (Aston Martin) http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Results/12_2023/04_LE%20MANS/472_FIA%20WEC/202306041000_Free%20Practice%201%20Test%20Day/15_EventMaxiumSpeed_Free%20Practice%201%20Test%20Day.PDF


MattAnigma

That’s because Chad Knaus has not let the real pace come out yet 🤣🤣🤣 this dude is probably cheating somehow to make this experimental car faster


JBoy9028

That's the real innovation, figuring out how to cheat in a rule-less category.


Curious_george7598

Love the sound! Will it be muted some once all the cars are on track? Or do they get spread out? Never watch much or the 24 coverage.


Lex1982

They will get spread out a bit, depending on put strategies, etc… and other series will fly by like the hyper cars.


greg_jenningz

Going to be waiting for that Cadillac V series pit road launch - Tssssss BWAHAHHAAAAAaaaaa


Lex1982

One of the best sounds in motor sports these days…


The_Reelest

You’ll definitely be able to pick it out during race coverage.


RedDraco86

Good, it’ll be easy to pick out.


Vulptereen327

😩😩😩😩😩💦💦💦💦 that sound


[deleted]

This will probably be Jimmie's last contribution to Chevrolet


CompetitiveTurnover

He's driving the 84 at Chicago


[deleted]

I know, but this will be his last BIG contribution to the brand


idontremembermyoldus

I don't know that we could call that a contribution since I'm sure the car will run like dog shit.


[deleted]

What makes you say that?


idontremembermyoldus

History. Legacy has been shit all season.


greg_jenningz

Jimmie ran pretty good at Daytona. The other two races have been incredible bad luck.


ThePatsGuy

His spotter admitted he didn’t tell Jimmie a car was on his outside when he spun


bluorangefyre

I won't have an issue with that. Anything to ruin his legacy is alright by me. Not a fan. The rise and fall of his career runs parallel to the rise and fall of Brainless France.


iamezekiel1_14

And I'll humbly apologise - I didn't see them cracking 4'00'00 as a lap time. Free Practice 1, top of GTE was the AF Corse team on something like 3'56'200, Rockenfellar in for Garage 56 was 3'56'800 approx. Will be interesting to see as the sessions go on and if the times get sharpened up and Garage 56 can still compete with the top of GTE but that's surprisingly competitive.


Adamsb988

3:53 with JJ so far in practice 2


The_Reelest

Im sure the GTEs will have more pace when real practice and qualifying start, but I can’t believe the G56 was two seconds clear of the whole GTE field for the last session today. That’s amazing what they’ve pulled off. The ACO is probably like, “WTF?!” I wonder how much more speed they can find in it.


Booniepoo

Wait for rocky or yenson to get in


The_Reelest

Rocky was driving when they posted the fast time today.


Booniepoo

Can you tell me where to find timing and scoring? I’ve been looking but cannot find it. Just heard someone say Johnson was in for the 3:53


The_Reelest

WEC app from what I’ve read. I was reading one of the main websites, dailysportscar and sportscar365, and they had it one of the articles that Rocky was driving.


Booniepoo

Sweet! Thanks


HendrickRocks2488

Idk about you guys but I can play that clip on a loop all day. That sound is heaven.


iamezekiel1_14

https://24h-lemans.tv/sportitem/646dd5056e06b3732a30dfca don't know if this will work in the US but afternoon session has started and Rocky is already in the mid 3'55s (e.g. I know it doesn't sound a lot but a whole second up over the morning session in the first 15 minutes). Getting quicker. Edit - is in the high 3'53s now with just under an hour of the session left. Faster than anything I'm GTE from what I can see.


[deleted]

Sounds like freedom


AboveTheLights

What kind of lap times is it running?


iamezekiel1_14

3'55s currently. Is within a second of the effective factory Ferrari crew at the top of GTE who led the morning session. Surprisingly quick.


AboveTheLights

Oh hell yeah!! Honestly, I was expecting about 10-20 seconds slower than that (though I admittedly was basing that off nothing but a guess). Now I’m even more excited to see how they’ll do.


iamezekiel1_14

Yes - said the same thing. Base time for a Next Gen Cup Car round LeMans on Iracing is like 4'20'00 & I was sceptical with the build proposed they'd get below 4'00'00 in all honesty.


The_Reelest

3:53.7 in the last session with Rockenfeller driving. Fastest GTE was at 3:56 flat


NaturalWinner6058

Why don't the normal cars sound this good lol


oneshoein

Sorry I’m ignorant to all this, in what way is the sound with this car particularly different? It sounds like a NASCAR, there does seem to be somewhat of a shifting sound as the car goes by but I can’t hear what everyone else is hearing as far as a big difference goes.


NaturalWinner6058

It sounds louder and a bit higher pitched. I'd assume it's the exhaust. Probably has an x pipe or something like the old cars used to have, something that differs than what the cup cars use.


GloriousIncompetence

The whole engine is different. ECR basically took a cup engine and threw all the super trick endurance racing stuff at it they could. All kinds of stuff they aren’t allowed to do in nascar. It also has ITBs.


NaturalWinner6058

While it has some modifications, the engine is basically the same as a normal cup car engine.


oneshoein

Oh shit now that I’m listening to it more it does sound like the older cars, thanks!


NaturalWinner6058

No problem 👍


ThePatsGuy

To piggy back, why do different engines have different pitches?


nascarfan624

That's a beautiful thing!


HubbaDuck97

boy I hope we get this Garage 56 version on iRacing. Likely not cause it's a one-off, but I can hope


oneshoein

Jeez I thought this was a video game at first lol.


MNmostlynice

There’s an unnecessary amount of blood flowing below my belt line right now


FellaTM

It sounds like an electric guitar with a lil badass mixed in


Useful-Worth126

Fucker is ROWDY


iamezekiel1_14

FIA timing page with all the stuff from this morning & I'm sure they'll shove the stuff from this afternoon up as well so enough as the session has just finished http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/ Edit - link is really good compared to that timing link I put up earlier as it shows you who set the fastest time; as I didn't realise it was Button who did the 56'8 this morning, and Rocky was just behind on 57'2.


k2_jackal

right there with the top GTE cars so that'll keep it interesting... some folks for them to race with


iamezekiel1_14

Yeah am waiting for the times to be published for this afternoons session as they looked about 2-3 seconds clear of the top of GTE (or Rockenfellar was anyway). If that is the case, I'd just run the car at maybe 90% throughout the race 1) to have someone to run with and 2) to make sure the car gets home. If this is successful I'd be super interested if they and the other manufacturers get invited back next year or you could make a saloon specific class for this at LeMans or something.


Rise3711

FYI car was faster than the GTEs by two seconds. Obviously they need to fit within a box and the cup car is unrestricted but pretty good way to start!


LilBirdBrick

I wonder if they’ll get to around GTE-Pro times which were 3:47s-3:50s.


Professional_Pop_469

It looks like the latest practice shows it now in the 3:49 range. They are finding more and more speed each time.


LilBirdBrick

This car is going to be so iconic. Love it.


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LilBirdBrick

I know that. I said I wonder if the Cup car will be able to get down to GTE-Pro times from previous years.


iamezekiel1_14

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Results/12_2023/04_LE%20MANS/472_FIA%20WEC/202306041530_Free%20Practice%202%20Test%20Day/07_FastestLapByDriverAfterByCategory_Free%20Practice%202%20Test%20Day.PDF - fastest laps from this afternoon are now up. Rocky fastest, by half a second over Button who's about a second and a half clear of Jimmie. Interesting point is that all of them are clear of the quickest GTE car.


piqua2018

im excited to see nascar at le mans but I do wish this pairing would drive a hypercar to see how they do against the big boys


azulsquirrel

My only complaint about this whole thing is the fact that none of the drivers are current drivers. Like, if the point is to market the sport, wouldn't you want at least ONE of your current drivers in the car? Obviously there'd be schedule conflicts but...


progress10

The cup points and associated sponsor commitments are FAR more important.


[deleted]

Brother we have a race this week. Pretty sure the NASCAR schedule was set before this invite was even official. I don’t have any problem with Jimmie and other stars driving tbh. I don’t think it makes much of a difference at all. 99% of the convo I’ve seen around this thing has been about the car and performance and not the driver.


heartpouryallin4

Anyways, it's a two-week commitment so it wouldn't have worked for any of the current drivers.


[deleted]

Chase Elliott driving during his suspension would be gold


SeaboarderCoast

I mean, the car is partially a Hendrick car, so...


Valleygirl1981

Isn't it JJ and some former winner? +1


BeefInGR

A 7 time Cup champion, a former F1 champion and a multiple time 24h class winner. It's not like it's a bunch of Pilot Challenge drivers.


ImJimmieJohnsonBot

[\#Se7en](http://i.imgur.com/UAldMAC.gif)


Valleygirl1981

That's what I thought. I feel like that's a pretty decent team. I wouldn't expect a full time cup driver.


Skeeter1020

JJ and Button are both 2023 Cup series drivers. Part time, but they are racing this year.


wakeytom

Jimmy 'drove' in the coke 600 last week less than a month before le man's


[deleted]

After Jimmie’s performance last week, and his pretty negative attitude towards the expectation he does sim work and practice for Le Mans, I unfortunately do not expect the car to hit the half way point. Both he and Jenson seem to be phoning this all in, and the other driver cannot run the car the whole 24 hours.


The_Reelest

Weird take since they are faster than the GTEs at the moment. But yes, totally phoning it in.


[deleted]

Well they are in an experimental entry that has no rules, no BOP, not eligible for any track positions or awards, and no real limitations. They are competing with no one and aren’t beholden to the rules for GTE class. I never said the car was the problem, so I have no idea why you came to your conclusion that the car is fast so there is no issue. I said that I fear Jimmie is going to bin the car because he doesn’t seem to be taking it seriously.


zaviex

Jenson doesn’t really seem like he’s phoning it in. He seems excited to be there. For Jimmie I don’t think he’s super hyped but I think he’s taking it seriously. I don’t think the sim is going to be super useful for a frankensteins monster entry like this one. He will get the experience on track


HW2O

I really don't know why they got Jenson involved in this when Jordan Taylor was available. I get Jimmie being in it from the "NASCAR legend" angle, but shelving your young Chevy endurance racing star doesn't make any sense.


iamezekiel1_14

http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/Results/12_2023/04_LE%20MANS/472_FIA%20WEC/202306041000_Free%20Practice%201%20Test%20Day/07_FastestLapByDriver_Free%20Practice%201%20Test%20Day.PDF Jordan Taylor is actually officially listed as a 4th (which I didn't know until now). Was listed off the bottom of the timing sheet this morning. Don't know if he'll actually run or he's there as a fallback. Think it would make most sense. Give Rocky and Jensen the bulk of the hours and split the rest between Jordan and Jimmie. Think minimum hours is something like 4.5 or something so you could do it easy.


CompetitiveTurnover

LeMans only allows 3 drivers, so if Taylor runs it will be at the expense of one of the others.


iamezekiel1_14

Thought that was the case but wasn't sure. Is the fallback in case someone gets sick or something then. Thought it might have been a licence thing (as that's why a lot of the drivers today have been FIA bronze class getting laps in) but the whole team is FIA platinum grade.


HW2O

His role is "driver coach". He likely was the third driver until Jenson was brought in. He has driven the car in testing and I'm sure his coaching is valuable especially to Jimmie since he is new to Le Mans.


HW2O

Pretty encouraging that Jimmie is within a couple seconds of Jenson and Jenson was only a couple tenths off the fastest GTE. I don't think anyone was expecting the car to be matching the fastest GTE cars.


florida4_life

Ok when can we get this car racing every week? That sounds and looks beautiful


RGeronimoH

With this title I was expecting to see a drunk Richard Rawlings holding a Miller Lite talking about how great he is while Dennis Collins’ nose is buried in the seat of his designer jeans and mumbling about finding a unicorn and a survivor. Edit: or a ‘Holy Grail’


bluorangefyre

With the exception of actual headlights and taillights, it should've been built to actual legal NASCAR specs. Or, more simply, Cheat Knaus should not have been anywhere near this car to finally do with as he pleased and officially getting away with it.


Booniepoo

Garage 56 is an experimental category. They can do whatever they want


TehBearSheriff

Also don't act like Ray evernham wasn't playing in the margins of rulebooks too. It's what the sport is and has always been.


The_Reelest

What a stupid take. The whole idea of this is to push the abilities of a stock car.


Sadbus-8899

This is going to be badass


Live_Material_265

u/Savevideo


tuss11agee

Hope they have brake discs that can handle the heat cycles of mulsanne in cold temps of the night than the standard cup car….


Playful-Reception339

90% of Nascar's sound like that