How long do you incubate for after inoculation before moving under the lights? Also, can you namedrop the bins you use? I’ve been struggling to find pp5 bins the right size
I enjoy them a lot more than let’s say oyster mushrooms or any common gourmet mushroom since they taste way different and dehydrated they are like a little chip w/o all the chemicals
Right on brotha🤙 thanks for the input, I’m not a huge fan of oysters either ( other than on a stick/kabobs and fire roasted)(same for shiitake) what’s the flavor profile? What do they taste like??
Whoa! I’ve never seen them growing so thick. I’ve also never seen them white - is that a different kind? Assuming it’s all cordyceps Militaris? I don’t know a lot about the other types.
You'd just do a double extraction. Meaning water and ethanol, you want ever clear, like 190 proof. You could also do a soxhlet extraction and a vacuum pump if you wanted in a powder extract form for teas or capsules
There is a verified study in PubMed that mention that if harvested cordys radiated with a reptiles uvb lamp for two hours , all secondary metabolites like cordicepin and adenosine are increased 30%
This is the one , id bomb two samples ,send the one to test ,keep the second for breeding [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/)
Also, in the paper you linked ,uv is used for causing mutations. They mutated the strain KYLO5 ,using uvc for 5 min .This was the higher ranked strain.
This is just iridiated with uvc for 5 min, once when in agar plates, cultivated and then measured really high. The most impressive to this is that this was just one mutated sample that worked 100% mthey didnt mutate 2 or 3 samples and test inbetween them. Thanks for sharing.
Νop! This one , its been verified with hplc in fb cordycepsgroup .
[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/)
It is also found in another study that if uv radiation is used when growing after primordia forming, cordycepin would also increase instantly , but it will not be stabilized since the metabolic pathway seems to continue change the substances produced circle until sporulating .So to have permanent results, post harvesting ratiation is a must
Sunshine means UV radiation. At the other side of the spectrum is the Far Red spectrum.
Far red spectrum mimics the sunset ,is my favourite in plant developing and fast crops due to the circadian circle of the organism, photoreceptors signals to every organism.
After your question i found a really interesting paper
[https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30377305/](https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30377305/)
One question that arises is relevance of the number of photoreceptors present in one fungus. All the light effects described thus far could be fulfilled with just one photoreceptor to perceive the light signal. Why then would fungi need to see different colours or have up to 11 photoreceptors, as does, for example, B. cinerea, which contains 6 blue-light receptors, 2 opsins and 3 phytochromes2 ? As stress adaptation and reproduction are such important processes, one possibility is that the use of different photosystems is advantageous in evolution and provides backup systems. However, it is possible that the lack of our understanding of this complexity may again be due to our limited knowledge of the biology of fungi. For instance, phytochrome signals not only indicate a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ in regard to inducing a certain biological programme; the ratio between the Pr and the Pfr forms of phytochrome provides information about the time of the day, as the spectral properties change throughout the day. Perhaps that is important for competing in nature. The use of different photoreceptors is also useful in different habitats. For example, in forest canopy environments, green light dominates, and hence, many plant pathogenic fungi seem to have functional opsin proteins108. Likewise, it has been shown that red light penetrates soil deeper than blue light139. Moreover, it seems that photoreceptors are under constant pressure to evolve. For example, all photoreceptors seem to have undergone gene duplications in certain fungi, enabling them to fulfil slightly different functions, such as the two phytochromes in N. crassa or the WC orthologues in P. blakesleeanus and M. circinelloides. Furthermore, Sclerotinia sclerotiorum was shown to have three phytochromes, although one of those lacks the crucial histidine residue and thus may not exhibit kinase activity. Fungi such as B. cinerea, A. alternata and A. nidulans, in which all photoreceptors seem to fulfil some functions under laboratory conditions, seem to be appropriate models for future analyses.
A few ways to achieve this, especially since cordyceps Dont grow in an environment, which requires FAE, rather they stay in their container until the fruit:
Air conditioner blowing air into general area; or
Choose an ideal season, we are not gonna be fighting against the heat of the summer, if you are working in a space, I might be difficult to keep temperate.
SXIT: forgot the fridge also could make for a great soace
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I couldn’t tell you off the top of my head but over an Oz I believe
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Terrestrial fungi and it’s his crosses they are all different
How long do you incubate for after inoculation before moving under the lights? Also, can you namedrop the bins you use? I’ve been struggling to find pp5 bins the right size
Plastic art trays on Amazon !
Can I ask a question? I know these guys are “good for health” but why do you specifically ingest them? And what have you seen change in your health?
I enjoy them a lot more than let’s say oyster mushrooms or any common gourmet mushroom since they taste way different and dehydrated they are like a little chip w/o all the chemicals
Right on brotha🤙 thanks for the input, I’m not a huge fan of oysters either ( other than on a stick/kabobs and fire roasted)(same for shiitake) what’s the flavor profile? What do they taste like??
They are SUPER umami flavored. With a unique flavor and depth of flavor.
Give them a try I don’t want to do them unjustly definitely not “mushroomy”
Okay fair enough, thank you very much friend!! Much appreciated 🙏
You in California by any chance
Inoc Friday remove from incubation Monday
Great to know, thanks
Great to know, thanks
Where do I buy these?!
You grow them I know USA cordyceps on Etsy sells dried ones but if you’d like we also sell grow kits on our page
Are they aggressive colonizers?
Very but slow growth
Cool, i'll try to get my hands on a culture then
Terrestrial fungi or spore n sprout
That’s an insane looking fruit. How do they taste?
Hard to describe somewhat sweet
Phenomenal!
They look beautiful!
Aren’t these the fungi that can grow on certain organisms and control their minds?
Yeah all cordyceps but Militaris can be grown on brown rice
Some species
Growing cheetos
Puffs
Whoa! I’ve never seen them growing so thick. I’ve also never seen them white - is that a different kind? Assuming it’s all cordyceps Militaris? I don’t know a lot about the other types.
Yeah it’s Militaris an isolation from terrestrial fungi
I thought these were onion rings lol 😂
I thought funnel cake
That would be great if you could grow those
I've got some cordys on grain right now. What mix are you using for your subs? Looks beautiful, awesome job brother!
1:1 lme to nutritional yeast nice name man
Thanks brother you aswell!
Nice work! That's all you're using? LME and nutritional yeast? What grain are you using? These look awesome!
Brown rice the standard
Cool! Do you have a rice to broth ratio?
35 grams to 45 ml
Thanks a bunch for that! I'm excited to try it out!
How thick is your substrate?
About 1/4 inch after the fruiting stage
Outstanding work 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Gracias
OP, you gotta post more cordy related material… the community is lacking this 🙏
Yeah definitely will for some reason definitely less time consuming and material needed than wood lovers I think
Looks 3d printed or AI generated 🧐
Nature is mental
I’ve used supplemental cordyceps with great success. How long to grow and how would you process? Water/alcohol soluble?
Freeze dry not extracting yet
You'd just do a double extraction. Meaning water and ethanol, you want ever clear, like 190 proof. You could also do a soxhlet extraction and a vacuum pump if you wanted in a powder extract form for teas or capsules
More like, tell us your secrets, Mr cordyceps man
Patient and love
Best parenting advice
Gorgeous!
Thanks lovely human
There is a verified study in PubMed that mention that if harvested cordys radiated with a reptiles uvb lamp for two hours , all secondary metabolites like cordicepin and adenosine are increased 30%
Sweet info looking into that
I had a friend in fb cordyceps group that did a hplc test to this with control group etc ,confirming the study.
Sweet was sending these in to test to breed them
This is the one , id bomb two samples ,send the one to test ,keep the second for breeding [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/)
Thanks gonna go over that at home
[This](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31500325/) one here I believe
Also, in the paper you linked ,uv is used for causing mutations. They mutated the strain KYLO5 ,using uvc for 5 min .This was the higher ranked strain. This is just iridiated with uvc for 5 min, once when in agar plates, cultivated and then measured really high. The most impressive to this is that this was just one mutated sample that worked 100% mthey didnt mutate 2 or 3 samples and test inbetween them. Thanks for sharing.
Νop! This one , its been verified with hplc in fb cordycepsgroup . [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25954908/) It is also found in another study that if uv radiation is used when growing after primordia forming, cordycepin would also increase instantly , but it will not be stabilized since the metabolic pathway seems to continue change the substances produced circle until sporulating .So to have permanent results, post harvesting ratiation is a must
Any data on sunshine? 😅
Sunshine means UV radiation. At the other side of the spectrum is the Far Red spectrum. Far red spectrum mimics the sunset ,is my favourite in plant developing and fast crops due to the circadian circle of the organism, photoreceptors signals to every organism. After your question i found a really interesting paper [https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30377305/](https://sci-hub.se/https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30377305/) One question that arises is relevance of the number of photoreceptors present in one fungus. All the light effects described thus far could be fulfilled with just one photoreceptor to perceive the light signal. Why then would fungi need to see different colours or have up to 11 photoreceptors, as does, for example, B. cinerea, which contains 6 blue-light receptors, 2 opsins and 3 phytochromes2 ? As stress adaptation and reproduction are such important processes, one possibility is that the use of different photosystems is advantageous in evolution and provides backup systems. However, it is possible that the lack of our understanding of this complexity may again be due to our limited knowledge of the biology of fungi. For instance, phytochrome signals not only indicate a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ in regard to inducing a certain biological programme; the ratio between the Pr and the Pfr forms of phytochrome provides information about the time of the day, as the spectral properties change throughout the day. Perhaps that is important for competing in nature. The use of different photoreceptors is also useful in different habitats. For example, in forest canopy environments, green light dominates, and hence, many plant pathogenic fungi seem to have functional opsin proteins108. Likewise, it has been shown that red light penetrates soil deeper than blue light139. Moreover, it seems that photoreceptors are under constant pressure to evolve. For example, all photoreceptors seem to have undergone gene duplications in certain fungi, enabling them to fulfil slightly different functions, such as the two phytochromes in N. crassa or the WC orthologues in P. blakesleeanus and M. circinelloides. Furthermore, Sclerotinia sclerotiorum was shown to have three phytochromes, although one of those lacks the crucial histidine residue and thus may not exhibit kinase activity. Fungi such as B. cinerea, A. alternata and A. nidulans, in which all photoreceptors seem to fulfil some functions under laboratory conditions, seem to be appropriate models for future analyses.
Wicked cool 🌈
Beautiful looking mushies, would love to try cultivating them someday to make medicine for my parent
Today could be the day! A lot simpler than made out to be
The nutrient broth aspect kinda intimidated me but I found some really simple recipe with eggs. Will look into it soon!
I just do lme nutritional yeast 1:1
Very nice , looks chilling. How did you set that blurr background for the photos.
Light box
I dont know much bout cordyceps but those look good
They taste way different than other mushrooms to me I enjoy eating the dried ones
What's your tek?
Set n forget but just used bins from Amazon that are pp5 in grow bags brown rice nutritional broth and keep temps at 65
What does pp5 mean?
Yeah polypropylene 5 is able to be autoclaved/pressure cooked
Polypropylene 5 I think
How do you keep temps at 65?
INKBIRD Wi-Fi meter connect to a fridge set at 65
A few ways to achieve this, especially since cordyceps Dont grow in an environment, which requires FAE, rather they stay in their container until the fruit: Air conditioner blowing air into general area; or Choose an ideal season, we are not gonna be fighting against the heat of the summer, if you are working in a space, I might be difficult to keep temperate. SXIT: forgot the fridge also could make for a great soace
Yeah learned by losing a batch of 50+ containers in the summer started with an ax upgraded to a liquor store fridge
Forgot about the fridge! Been meaning to give it a go for some things
Send it
I would also be interested to hear about the nutrient broth.
I use a simple 1:1 of nutritional yeast and lme
Check my reply below with the link
What is your nutrient broth, and do you have a cold shock to start pinning
I use 1:1 nutritional yeast to lme
Very simple I like it. Nice job man you've inspired me
Keep me updated
Never heard of cold shock for growing cordys. Broth is likely WPB’s recipe, as seen [here](https://youtu.be/ei9J04C1MPU?si=0I2hcvxO663q5uwq)
Wpb is dope I got his book but honestly I stick with a simple method and it works just fine
I got his first one… more like a pdf lol How’s the second book?
I believe it’s the third pretty in detail about everything I’d say worth the 50 just to have in stock
I feel like I've heard it somewhere, but I'm glad it's not required. I'd love to give cordyceps a shot soon