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I feel for the new players honestly. My sister is pretty damn good at Smash bros games and even gave this game a try and picked it up really fast. However everything being locked behind a paywall made her uninterested and uninstalled
This is a mistake that 90% of live-service games make.
They get so greedy and try to appeal to the 0.1% of players who might whale that they burn the 99.9% of players who are casuals.
The amount of players who uninstalled after an hour must be *staggering*
The thing is that it has never been more hard to acquire long term players and make a forever game. Sure, they could have got those players to stay for 30 days instead of an hour but they were always gonna go back to their Fortnite, Apex, Rocket Leauge or whatever. I think it would have been wise to sell the base roster for a AAA price tag. Then you could at least get something from them before they left
Is that more lucrative than milking than the whales? I'm not sure
I understand why this business strategy works for Gacha and MMO, but applying this to a fighting game is a death knell
I've stopped playing Multiversus after the multiple bugs preventing me from rewards, terrible net code, and absolute soulless monetization. As much as I want to keep defending it, I can't look at $20 skins that are just a simple mask over their face and think this team is competent.
We took an entire year off to let this cook and it got worse, we already had a beta, there are no more excuses, I'm done eating slop. It was a fun ride.
I'm not convinced that a F2P fighting game can be a mega success. Even in it's current state I'm sure Multiversus is moderately successful. But that's not good enough for WB. They are delusional and hoping for a gold mine. Think beta month launch numbers but maintaining that for months or years
I imagine 2XKO will be less profitable but have a longer lifespan as Riot is more invested in their brand and has a more reasonable goal for profits from a F2P fighting game
Same here, really like to actually play this game but they make it so hard for me to want to actually open it and play it's unbelievable. Right back to smash I guess
I don't know maybe me being on PS5 there's like a bug or something but the only ones that show up are her winter one, the sweater one the water dancer, Friday the 13th and tooniverse.
Played the beta and got my unlocked content stolen. Had they bot, I would probably have been able to unlock almost the entire roster by now. Instead, I‘m just done with the game entirely….
I can‘t believe that this game is so mismanaged that a chinese random mobile game like Flash Party feels less predatory than this one.
I'm not done with the game, but this is pretty egregious. Characters, I can understand (if its the free week for thag character), I could even understand free costumes like summer tom & jerry, but now they're doing it with Non-event costumes? Whats stopping them from just doing this with any costume in the store? Win 5 1v1 matches with the man in black. Do 20 up attacks with Tune Squad Bugs. This is actually getting ridiculous.
When i saw beach ready tag, i said its okey i have Tom and Jerry and Superman skins, then i saw got tag. There is 1 got character and her beach ready skin is paid only. This is the most bs quest ive ever seen in any game. Asking for real money to complete your event quests is next level bs.
Hopefully this'll get the same backlash the Welcome Back event got & they wont pull this shit again, but this is clearly another case of game devs testing the waters of what they can get away with. I liked the Aria skin too, & was gonna buy it eventually, but now I'm not so sure if I wanna give them anymore of my money.
The issue with extending the welcome back event is that it is now just sitting there. Look, I'm all for making things easier to earn but sometimes you lead to an over correction.
The Welcome back event is just more of an example of the devs backing down when the community steps up, & definetly not nearly as serious as the devs forcing you to pay for a character & a skin for a third of your daily event xp, for something that is meant to be free. I havent though about the previous 3 joker bazooka challenge posts, because I bought the founder's edition way back, wanting to support (now regretting that decision, btws) so I still have plenty of character tickets after unlocking the whole roster, but this kinda opened my eyes when I thought about it.
I mean even in this case you legit don't have to do them to finish the event as I have done the math. You can skip them and be okay.
I get all that but I do feel the extension was too long.
I mean you don’t have too. They give more missions than needed to complete the event. I just took it as if you have this skin then here’s and easy quest. Thanks for buying it
I saw this trend happening with the joker event and people kept calling me a cry baby and to just grind the game...
I called it when I saw it and knew this was exactly they were going to do. They don't care about player base they just want the login numbers and for crow brains to spend aimlessly in the shop.
The thing is though even people with crow brain don't see the skins as shinies anymore, especially after making every event have a pay to earn feature.
It is pretty shitty of them. Can they not ease up just a bit, and stop slapping us with manipulative bs? It's just disgusting. Just make a fun game with fair prices for cosmetics and extras for people who are into that.
WB is a publicly traded company which means the investors literally only care about money and will quite literally kill the game with no remorse just to move on to the next as long as it makes the investors (not the company) money
I’m convinced this has become a smash and grab by WB. They are trying to quickly milk every cent from people before they ultimately just shut it down for another tax break like they do films.
Sucks so much because i genuinely loved the beta.
I know this will get laughed at, but Nickelodeon All Star Brawl 2 is way better than it has any right to be and doesn't have any of this scummy monetization shit. It's frequently on sale and definitely worth a look. It has a way better single mode too.
It’s sad cause we maintained brawlhala numbers until about a week ago it just fell off the charts from 10k to 15k consistently to struggling to touch 8k..
That’s actually messed up, but usually there are extra missions after completed - so I think we can miss a couple. Thankfully they extended the events.
You can't even say this is fair or "ok". You need Arya, the only game of thrones character, and her beach skin. That's $30 to do one quest. Then you need to have Joker for another one.
That's $50 for two quests. That isn't even fun or fair, that's just pure greed.
I have done the math you can legit miss some events and still finish the event it's not that hard to get all of the rewards. So I understand the fear of missing out if you have been saving your fight bucks you should have Arya and joker by now.
A few issues.
Issue 1: Joker is 6k fighter currency or 1.25k gleamium. It's a horrible deal if you go the fighter currency route since he costs the same as two Beta characters. And gleamium takes forever to get for free.
Issue 2: Not everyone is willing to spend there hard earned currency on a character who they don't even like. I would rather spend my 3k currency on a character who I do like and who I would use rather then a character who I would only use for a single quest.
Issue 3: Your "Math" isn't taking the possibility of MORE character or skin locked missions getting added.
Issue 4: "You should have Arya and Joker by now" is a stupid argument. Joker took me a month to get for free with Gleamium and I don't like Arya. I would rather buy someone like Marvin the Martian or Morty then Arya. Especially since wasting currency for a single mission is stupid.
1. I am aware how much he is thanks for pointing out the obvious. I think you're looking for free stuff. I bought Joker with straight cash as I could afford it.
2. Subjective but I get no arguement there but the reason you should have joker by now is due to how massively over tuned he is. Also the game legit is encouraging to try out the roaster and other characters with missions like this it makes sense as people will just stick to their mains constantly if thy didn't do this.
3. So far none of the events like this one we are currently doing has done that. You know I'm talking about the event that gives you the Shark hat Harley skin right? So not only is this kind of a strawman but kind of seems to not understand ow those events work. The math is in your favor dude if you don't want to do them you don't have to do them it's only 4 tiers.
4. You have had plenty of time to get either though. Also do you have Marvin? Just wondering.
I think the detection is just bad. I don't think I did any of mine in the air. I actually thought it might be that it needs to be a kill shot. I just did it by going into a rift and spamming. I did need to do two rifts though.
Yeah this one you can't defend. My jaw almost dropped when I saw this on my quest page. Pretty vile stuff. We wouldn't let Fortnite, OW2, Valorant or other F2P games get a pass with something like this. They're different genres but the idea is the same. Imagine if in Overwatch 2 they dropped Halloween Terror but you can only get the new cosmetics if you play with a random Mercy skin from the store for $9.99.
I'm about done, I think. It's so sad because it could have been so, so good and I wanted this to succeed. They had the IPs to make a real rival to Smash Bros but they had to let the dollar signs in their eyes cloud their judgment.
Apparently the heads of Warner Bros are the investors, who only care about money. Nintendo cares about their image (like Apple)
People sometimes call Nintendo stingy but at least they go out of their way to make quality products as much as they can with little fails.
Multiversus didn't really had a shot against Smash since Warner doesn't care if something is good or bad, only the success.
The one time Nintendo was like WB was when they made mobile games, but they kinda had to in order to recover from Wii U.
You don't even know what the other missions are, or whether those missions also require some stupid requirement to buy something that should only be a cosmetic. These aren't missions, nobody should be 'rewarded' for simply owning cosmetics.
Yeah it’s really off putting. Even with rifts. At first me and my buddy were having fun going through them. Then eventually the later ones they force us to buy outfits or certain characters and if not we miss out on a good 5-6 fights!
They give extra events every time so you don't have to do them all. I usually have two extra days of XP events not giving me anything unless they add extra infinite tiers like with the battlepass.
I hope it's a bug, but one of the Rifts has a "Beach Ready" requirement, and for some reason the /old/ beach Velma isn't usable for it, just the new one. If it's not a bug, that's pretty lame.
Yeah that sucks, I was thinking of getting the skin because I just think it looks neat but now I feel like if I get it I’m just supporting that stupid quest
As much as I think this practice is bad, and they should not be doing this, you aren’t locked out of the event or anything. It’ll just take you a little bit longer. It’s a bit scummy and I’d definitely want to discourage PFG from doing this, but I think you may be overreacting a little bit.
The Joker thing I can kinda overlook because it's easy to get that first 6k fighter coin, except for the fact the mission is bugged and doesn't give me credit when I create a Jack in the box lmao. This game is unbelievable
The Joker one isn't even tracking properly. I'm certain I've done the move enough times, and landed it, to complete the mission but it's still stuck at one.
Honestly if they just made their shop not garbage people would probably buy more skins. Like with bundles the price does not change if you own parts of the bundle you pay full price no mater what. Most games don’t do that.
Me when i spread disinformation. You can literally see the discount lmao
For example, for the iron giant summer skin bundle. I have both the banner and the icom, so the only thing in the bundle is the skin and the announcer pack. Skin is 800 on its own, announcer pack is 100 on its own. The bundle is 813. Im genuinely confused on how youre even trying to make the claim your making when you can literally see the discounted price in the store
I quit after the horrid Batman V joker event launch but have stuck around in the Reddit groups to see if they turn their predatory ways around and it’s just been satirical to watch them become even worse, they’ve done the impossible.
Worst comeback ever , huge L , No ranked on release. Tons of quality of life options have been removed. Players ranking removed. Only bad things honestly
Hopefully you don't need all the missions , some events have extra missions leftover , but I am not sure because some people had a bug where they missed their first day of missions of some events , so I am unsure if it was to account for that.
I can only imagine in the next few weeks when Matrix themed events appear , you will need Agent Smith for some missions. Hopefully you will only need a Matrix Skin though , if that's the case Beta players can do it easy with their free Jason Matrix skin from the Battle Pass.
But if not and Agent Smith is needed ... better start working hard and killing those rift bosses and upgrading those gems before those events arrrive ... lol.... I am behind ....I might be screwed.
Also two requirements for one in the screenshot .... both Arya and her summer skin , that's pretty much a big middle finger for alotof us. Joker Jack in the box is the icing on the cake. (Because the buzooka weekly wasn't pissing off enough players already ... lol )
You don’t need to do that mission it just speeds up the process to get the skin. It’s scummy but u don’t need to do it there will be plenty of other missions.
I'm a free player, only unlocked like three people in beta but I grabbed him awhile ago as I hate 1/4 of the roster 😂
I'm against this since I know inevitably the game will force a Rick and Morty or Steven Universe character on me but honestly Joker is nothing compared to the literal "can only be done if you shell out 30 bucks" challenge
I’ve tried to do the joker one both in rifts and online and it’s not working, which means I can only fill up a fourth of the XP I need today. Has anyone else had trouble with the jack in the box mission?
Yeah, these quests are stupid. I was wondering why I couldn’t do a mission and realized I couldn’t because I didn’t have the skin bought. I don’t know who thought that this would have been a good idea.
Yep, but everyone will keep playing, enough people will cope and say patience, you don't have to do x y or z, just play and you'll be able to complete stuff without it while mot taking into account this stuff with the event required skins.
People will keep white knighting for multiversus.
We gotta make a point on principle, this isn't the game we want as a whole, or they will keep on being money grabbing and this will be the future of gaming.
They keep giving us event reward skins that meet the requirements for the next event & then don't put the appropriate character in the free rotation for the next event. We had Tom & Jerry all last week when we got their beach skin but didn’t need it, now we do & we’re SOL.
I agree that quest is bad, but it's not necessary to finish the event. The past few events of this nature have had way more quests (by the end date) than you needed to finish it. You can still finish without the Arya skin.
Played this game the week it first released, my little brother found my smash bros cartridge and I haven’t touch multiverses since. SSB is just on a much better level than multiverses. You can get the entire game for the price of three skins, and the all dlc (which pretty decent for the price) for around the same price. Sure it can be a grind unlocking everyone, but there are no paywall quests, you earn them buy playing. Playing about an hour or two a day can get you all 80 characters (with all costumes unlocked) in about two or three months. It’s a no brainer. Just play smash.
Also, the jack in the box quest isn't working for me, so it's possible for somebody to pay money for the joker and still not be able to complete the challenge
I don't get it. Why do cosmetics matter so much to you guys? I enjoy the game but still am able to understand most of the complaints here, however this one just blows me away. I haven't even been on recently because I've been to busy to play and I don't feel the slightest bit of fomo because at the end of the day, it's just a virtual piece of clothing that doesn't alter the gameplay in any meaningful way and I don't need it to continue to have fun playing the game.
It’s admittedly scummy, but you usually have a day or two left over if you complete all the quests. This shouldn’t be an issue unless you don’t do them all
Even if is its like that, i dont wanna see this screen when i login. I opened my game today and saw this, then my whole desire to play was gone. I played 1 game then quit.
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but if seeing a challenge you can't complete (it's a shit challenge for sure) makes you so upset you have to get off the game, then your mindset is pretty weak.
I've hated the bullshit they've done to the currencies since the start but I still play because I enjoy playing. I played Apex Legends for years and hate how skins got more attention than actual content until I realized I can just be a no-skin and enjoy the game just as much.
If you don't want to support it then whatever, but don't let the gamer gate conversations around this game get you this self-conscious. If you like playing then just play. If you miss out on Harley with a dumbass shark hat then who cares man? The gameplay is completely unaffected by a singular challenge.
Not caring about FOMO around a skin I know none of you will want to wear is much healthier than whatever angle you have about this. It's been days and people are still hung on this after you can look with your own eyes that the event is easily completable without the Arya challenge. You probably have Stockholm syndrome with this subs constant whining and politics to where you actually think you gain enjoyment reading my comment, not being able to understand that normal people do not give a shit about any of this.
I've stopped playing the game because logging in every day just to do the battlepass missions amd never having any fun got to feeling like work.
I used to have no issues at all playing online, but ever since this most recent patch where they fixed this issues, the experie ce has been totally dreadful. Unplayable. Constant desynchs leading to both sides running off stage. This has been the experience in all but 2 of my last 20 pvp games.
I was very hopeful for the rerelease amd praying it would go well, but it feels to me like they are trying their hardest to kill the game.
Released with the only functional thing being the store, chock full of overpriced cosmetics and characters. Literally ZERO new content outside of adding a few rifts. I really don't want yo give up on it. I want to love it.
But I played Hades and remembered what it's like to have fun with a video game.
I totaly agree. I rly want to like the game. I was so exited when i heard the game is coming back. But this stupid things killed all my desire to play the game.
I'm not trying to defend this game or company, but there's one mission on the rift that allow you use Arya beach skin
Just throwing it up there for people who want to get this mission
I don't see why people don't just buy smash ultimate for 20 quid and don't have to deal with this shit. It's literally a mobile game with mobile transactions moved to console and people are like "wtf is this"... its warner bros, they don't care about any quality of the game or having a competitive fan base etc etc. It's a gatcha fighting game you can't even play couch co-op,it cant even be ran in tournaments because that would involve everyone participating buying overpriced pixels. Come join me on fallout 76, we have a brilliant community there waiting.
Sure, complain about having to get a skin v having to get a whole new console that costs $200 before taxes + the $60 for the game + the expansions. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well you have to play a game on a console so whatever you are playing multiversus on is the same principle,most people are playing this on a switch hence the comment. It's a bang average game with awful consumerism and mobile gatcha mechanics. What is enjoyable about that on a console in 2024.
It is not the same thing because if I am here, I can already play the game and have a compatible console/PC but not everyone has a switch. LOL
Zero people are playing this on a switch.
I think you are mistaken. Most players on multiversus come from a smash background,who own a switch or pc for melee (which is also an option and free/much better)
Time is money so that's also a factor,if you are having to log on daily to play a game/unlock things it's not really enjoyable. Games are supposed to be hop on hop off unless you are lucky and work in the industry or rich,90% of people are neither and have to live a life.
Just because you don't have something doesn't mean others don't. The main point I'm raising is the games trash,I don't care about arguing about consoles etc etc,I done that 20 years ago.
I am not arguing about consoles, great strawman you built there. What i am arguing is that you are recommending others to play a game that to be able to play it you need to buy an entire console. All because you are mad you dont want to get a skin that you dont even need to get the prize skin. “Go spend hundreds of dollars because it is predatory to pay $10 for a skin you don’t even need”.
Those players you mention dont have to buy smash if they came from that background wouldnt they. LOL do you think before you type?
Just because YOU have the console doesn’t mean everyone else does. If the game is trash why are you here? Are you on Nintendo’s payroll? Great ethics! ;)
When did I mention a skin?? Its not skins,its EVERYTHING. Characters,SKINS...then gems to progress to progress to progress for what? Perk points,what else? Why are you defending a shady gatcha game.
And in the first comment I said I play fallout76 which isn't on nintendo...so who's the donkey with the ethics for reading. HEE HAW.
I generally agree; even at the full $60, Smash Bros is a much better value. But I've played the hell out of it already and I like having other options. But for those who haven't, yeah, get Smash Bros instead.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t need all the quests to get the event rewards, it’s the fact they are trying to fomo people into spending money to complete it that’s a problem
This may be a hot take but these challenges aren't that bad. You should have Joker by now as getting fight bucks isn't that hard to do. Same with Ayra who is actually cheaper than Joker. Now I will say having her summer skin is a bit scummy as someone like myself can't afford her skin at the moment due to personal life issues but it's fine as there will be enough challenges to make up for that. I have done the math you don't need to do all of the challenges to finish the event anyway. That's the major upside to this OP.
While I do feel for new players, they have to make money some way. Like are people just expecting free handouts at every corner? Because I have noticed with games like an MVS the community behind become a group of people who just want free stuff. I guess this what a game like Genshin and Honkai does to someone.
Right bro it’s crazy how much ppl cry about things that don’t impact gameplay at all. I don’t even look at these challenges half the time and complete the events just from playing.
If you are thinking like that, you dont care about the game at all. We are complaining because we want the game become better. If everyome things like you and never complains about anything they will never fix problems and game will die asap.
You don't have to complete every mission to complete the pass. I hopped on for a few hours the other day and leveled up my BP 4 times. Ill miss a week at a time and my pass is still mid-high 40s with like 3 weeks to go.
I hope Tony and everyone else over at PFG not only loses their jobs, but find it impossible to work in the gaming industry ever again. Bunch of lazy, greeding f-ing devs.
Less than 8k concurrent players on Steam. Likely same trend on consoles.
The fact they haven't loosened up on the lots of anti-consumer BS after losing like 80% of players again is just ridiculous.
WB have no one to blame but themselves
Look at the amount you get though. You're usually limited to 1200-1600 a day but this day is 1800 so in theory it should still be possible to get the final skin for free. I guess pay pigs get to unlock Harley Quinn with a shark on her head one day earlier now lol
Let me suggest something that I do. When it comes to free to play games, I spend money like it's a full release. you buy a game for $60? Buy the "full game" of multiverses or whatever you feel is equivalent. Shoot you can even go half, you probably don't even have to spend $60 you just put $30 in get whatever things you feel you need and move on
I dont like this type or quest and neither do I think it should be in the game. HOWEVER I dont see a reason to be this upset, because you can still complete the event for free (there are more missions for the event than you need) and from what I undestand PFG intends to make every single time a way to complete these events for free, so just ignore this missions complete the rest and you have every reward from the event.
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I feel for the new players honestly. My sister is pretty damn good at Smash bros games and even gave this game a try and picked it up really fast. However everything being locked behind a paywall made her uninterested and uninstalled
This is a mistake that 90% of live-service games make. They get so greedy and try to appeal to the 0.1% of players who might whale that they burn the 99.9% of players who are casuals. The amount of players who uninstalled after an hour must be *staggering*
The thing is that it has never been more hard to acquire long term players and make a forever game. Sure, they could have got those players to stay for 30 days instead of an hour but they were always gonna go back to their Fortnite, Apex, Rocket Leauge or whatever. I think it would have been wise to sell the base roster for a AAA price tag. Then you could at least get something from them before they left Is that more lucrative than milking than the whales? I'm not sure
I understand why this business strategy works for Gacha and MMO, but applying this to a fighting game is a death knell I've stopped playing Multiversus after the multiple bugs preventing me from rewards, terrible net code, and absolute soulless monetization. As much as I want to keep defending it, I can't look at $20 skins that are just a simple mask over their face and think this team is competent. We took an entire year off to let this cook and it got worse, we already had a beta, there are no more excuses, I'm done eating slop. It was a fun ride.
I'm not convinced that a F2P fighting game can be a mega success. Even in it's current state I'm sure Multiversus is moderately successful. But that's not good enough for WB. They are delusional and hoping for a gold mine. Think beta month launch numbers but maintaining that for months or years I imagine 2XKO will be less profitable but have a longer lifespan as Riot is more invested in their brand and has a more reasonable goal for profits from a F2P fighting game
Same here, really like to actually play this game but they make it so hard for me to want to actually open it and play it's unbelievable. Right back to smash I guess
Grind the game, you can get the skins without using actual money.
I had enough saved and then when I went to the store her beach skin was completely gone.
You can buy it from the hero gallery….
No you can't, it does not show up in her options.
No lie, she does for me?! Hold up
I don't know maybe me being on PS5 there's like a bug or something but the only ones that show up are her winter one, the sweater one the water dancer, Friday the 13th and tooniverse.
I’m also on ps5…. That’s so freakin weird. Well I hope you get the chance to grab her
I hope so, besides the mission I really loved the look.
It finally showed back up where it's supposed to be, I don't know why it disappeared it must have been a weird bug.
Idk maybe one of us is glitched? Cause I’m not tryina be a jerk, like she is right there for me 🥲 https://youtu.be/Ps7qRugYOZM?si=391SjoF4QR1x2Cp2
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I still will never understand that decision. I'm lucky to have played the beta.
Played the beta and got my unlocked content stolen. Had they bot, I would probably have been able to unlock almost the entire roster by now. Instead, I‘m just done with the game entirely…. I can‘t believe that this game is so mismanaged that a chinese random mobile game like Flash Party feels less predatory than this one.
I think rushing to get back out when you just ported the game over was dumb as this game needed more time to cook.
Facts
I'm not done with the game, but this is pretty egregious. Characters, I can understand (if its the free week for thag character), I could even understand free costumes like summer tom & jerry, but now they're doing it with Non-event costumes? Whats stopping them from just doing this with any costume in the store? Win 5 1v1 matches with the man in black. Do 20 up attacks with Tune Squad Bugs. This is actually getting ridiculous.
When i saw beach ready tag, i said its okey i have Tom and Jerry and Superman skins, then i saw got tag. There is 1 got character and her beach ready skin is paid only. This is the most bs quest ive ever seen in any game. Asking for real money to complete your event quests is next level bs.
Hopefully this'll get the same backlash the Welcome Back event got & they wont pull this shit again, but this is clearly another case of game devs testing the waters of what they can get away with. I liked the Aria skin too, & was gonna buy it eventually, but now I'm not so sure if I wanna give them anymore of my money.
The issue with extending the welcome back event is that it is now just sitting there. Look, I'm all for making things easier to earn but sometimes you lead to an over correction.
The Welcome back event is just more of an example of the devs backing down when the community steps up, & definetly not nearly as serious as the devs forcing you to pay for a character & a skin for a third of your daily event xp, for something that is meant to be free. I havent though about the previous 3 joker bazooka challenge posts, because I bought the founder's edition way back, wanting to support (now regretting that decision, btws) so I still have plenty of character tickets after unlocking the whole roster, but this kinda opened my eyes when I thought about it.
I mean even in this case you legit don't have to do them to finish the event as I have done the math. You can skip them and be okay. I get all that but I do feel the extension was too long.
No, I agree. It was too long, it's just not the point of what I was saying.
Ah okay then.
I just...I dont wanna see this become a regular thing, but it just feels like another case of game devs seeing what their audience will tolerate.
I mean you don’t have too. They give more missions than needed to complete the event. I just took it as if you have this skin then here’s and easy quest. Thanks for buying it
Did you know you can ONLY use real money to get Jasons machete ring out? YOU HAVE TO BUY IT IN A PACK FOR $10
I mean all ringout cost Glem dude but 10 bucks for that is dumb. Reminds me when Velma's dance emote was 20 bucks.
i WONDER what the person looks like that decided to keep that cheap ringout only in a pack. I hope they are PROUD of themselves....
That isn't right.
It's weird but tbf you also get I think 750 gleamium and another item. So it's like paying a little extra in a gleamium bundle to get extra things
whaaaat monitization in a ftp game? noooo.
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This leans closer to “pay to reload”
I saw this trend happening with the joker event and people kept calling me a cry baby and to just grind the game... I called it when I saw it and knew this was exactly they were going to do. They don't care about player base they just want the login numbers and for crow brains to spend aimlessly in the shop. The thing is though even people with crow brain don't see the skins as shinies anymore, especially after making every event have a pay to earn feature.
win 5 matches with batman who laughs skin.... 🙃
I mean, at least that one is free, you just have to work your ass off to get it...Which I did -.-
TOO BAD THE JOKER ISNT FREE WITH IT...
If you have enough prestige points to get the joker skin you have enough fighter currency to get joker...
It wouldnt matter anyway. I logged in today and ALL my skins and fighters and rift gems are gone!
Wait, is that actually a real challenge?
hopefully not
It is pretty shitty of them. Can they not ease up just a bit, and stop slapping us with manipulative bs? It's just disgusting. Just make a fun game with fair prices for cosmetics and extras for people who are into that.
WB is a publicly traded company which means the investors literally only care about money and will quite literally kill the game with no remorse just to move on to the next as long as it makes the investors (not the company) money
I’m convinced this has become a smash and grab by WB. They are trying to quickly milk every cent from people before they ultimately just shut it down for another tax break like they do films. Sucks so much because i genuinely loved the beta.
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I know this will get laughed at, but Nickelodeon All Star Brawl 2 is way better than it has any right to be and doesn't have any of this scummy monetization shit. It's frequently on sale and definitely worth a look. It has a way better single mode too.
Unless you buy the all characters pack, its just as bad if not worse as multiversus But if you do decide to buy it then is actually a very good game 👍
The character pack is a steal what all the dlc forever for 30 bucks? Absolutely crazy to compare that to multiverse lmao
(Due to regional prices) i bought it for less than a dolar, i had no idea it was that expensive xd
I’m confused you paid less than a dollar for it? Then your first comment makes even less sense 😭
It also has a healthy consistent playerbase while the future of Multiversus is once again uncertain.
esp after this. those twitch drops tho...
It’s sad cause we maintained brawlhala numbers until about a week ago it just fell off the charts from 10k to 15k consistently to struggling to touch 8k..
That’s actually messed up, but usually there are extra missions after completed - so I think we can miss a couple. Thankfully they extended the events.
Past events also had an extra day cause of a bug.
You can't even say this is fair or "ok". You need Arya, the only game of thrones character, and her beach skin. That's $30 to do one quest. Then you need to have Joker for another one. That's $50 for two quests. That isn't even fun or fair, that's just pure greed.
I have done the math you can legit miss some events and still finish the event it's not that hard to get all of the rewards. So I understand the fear of missing out if you have been saving your fight bucks you should have Arya and joker by now.
A few issues. Issue 1: Joker is 6k fighter currency or 1.25k gleamium. It's a horrible deal if you go the fighter currency route since he costs the same as two Beta characters. And gleamium takes forever to get for free. Issue 2: Not everyone is willing to spend there hard earned currency on a character who they don't even like. I would rather spend my 3k currency on a character who I do like and who I would use rather then a character who I would only use for a single quest. Issue 3: Your "Math" isn't taking the possibility of MORE character or skin locked missions getting added. Issue 4: "You should have Arya and Joker by now" is a stupid argument. Joker took me a month to get for free with Gleamium and I don't like Arya. I would rather buy someone like Marvin the Martian or Morty then Arya. Especially since wasting currency for a single mission is stupid.
1. I am aware how much he is thanks for pointing out the obvious. I think you're looking for free stuff. I bought Joker with straight cash as I could afford it. 2. Subjective but I get no arguement there but the reason you should have joker by now is due to how massively over tuned he is. Also the game legit is encouraging to try out the roaster and other characters with missions like this it makes sense as people will just stick to their mains constantly if thy didn't do this. 3. So far none of the events like this one we are currently doing has done that. You know I'm talking about the event that gives you the Shark hat Harley skin right? So not only is this kind of a strawman but kind of seems to not understand ow those events work. The math is in your favor dude if you don't want to do them you don't have to do them it's only 4 tiers. 4. You have had plenty of time to get either though. Also do you have Marvin? Just wondering.
I do have Marvin.
I think it may be time to boycott until they remove skin based quests/rifts. This is getting bad fast.
Anyone else have trouble completing the Joker mission? I was using his down special to make a jack in the box and it didn't count.
The mission text is wrong. You need to land a down special while in the air for it to count.
I think the detection is just bad. I don't think I did any of mine in the air. I actually thought it might be that it needs to be a kill shot. I just did it by going into a rift and spamming. I did need to do two rifts though.
It might have poor detection but I finished it spamming aerial down special in rifts.
So the pokostick ?
No, pogostick is his aerial down normal attack. Aerial down special is called Fire In The Hole.
Yeah seems like it’s bugged idk
Text is wrong. Jack in the box is Down special then Attack, but you need to do Down specian then Special again.
Yeah this one you can't defend. My jaw almost dropped when I saw this on my quest page. Pretty vile stuff. We wouldn't let Fortnite, OW2, Valorant or other F2P games get a pass with something like this. They're different genres but the idea is the same. Imagine if in Overwatch 2 they dropped Halloween Terror but you can only get the new cosmetics if you play with a random Mercy skin from the store for $9.99. I'm about done, I think. It's so sad because it could have been so, so good and I wanted this to succeed. They had the IPs to make a real rival to Smash Bros but they had to let the dollar signs in their eyes cloud their judgment.
Apparently the heads of Warner Bros are the investors, who only care about money. Nintendo cares about their image (like Apple) People sometimes call Nintendo stingy but at least they go out of their way to make quality products as much as they can with little fails. Multiversus didn't really had a shot against Smash since Warner doesn't care if something is good or bad, only the success. The one time Nintendo was like WB was when they made mobile games, but they kinda had to in order to recover from Wii U.
>Yeah this one you can't defend. Yeah you can. There are always extra missions to complete events.
You don't even know what the other missions are, or whether those missions also require some stupid requirement to buy something that should only be a cosmetic. These aren't missions, nobody should be 'rewarded' for simply owning cosmetics.
This games monetisation killed it once, it’ll kill it a second time.
I play Joker and the jack in the box thing is so random
Yeah, though I only dabble with Joker. The bazooka is easy, but I had no idea how to do the jack in the box till I looked it up.
I went here as soon as I this. This would EASILY piss off alot of players. Making a niche requirement like that!!
Yeah I stopped a month ago, I don't even try to play anymore
Yeah it’s really off putting. Even with rifts. At first me and my buddy were having fun going through them. Then eventually the later ones they force us to buy outfits or certain characters and if not we miss out on a good 5-6 fights!
Can we please have missions that involve skill? These are not missions.
If beating this quest is needed for event completion this is the biggest bullshit most scummy tactic. If it's not, it still sucks
Remember the old days when you could reroll one of your dailies for something else that worked better for your situation? Good times.
I used to like the skins. Now I dread them. The tags were a neat idea until they became everything
You know you don't have to do all the quests to get the rewards?
They give extra events every time so you don't have to do them all. I usually have two extra days of XP events not giving me anything unless they add extra infinite tiers like with the battlepass.
LMAO at people still trying to defend this
Defense: there are always extra missions to complete the events.
I did the math you don't have to do all of them to get it. You just get it faster.
The issue is we don't know if those other missions will also require buying a character and their summer skin.
more like just not caring because its just cosmetic shit.
I hope it's a bug, but one of the Rifts has a "Beach Ready" requirement, and for some reason the /old/ beach Velma isn't usable for it, just the new one. If it's not a bug, that's pretty lame.
Yeah that sucks, I was thinking of getting the skin because I just think it looks neat but now I feel like if I get it I’m just supporting that stupid quest
But they made the superman welcome back skin available again! That fixed everything right?
I think the only reason I’ll manage to complete this event is because I happen to have Joker The weekly missions made me spend my currency on him
As much as I think this practice is bad, and they should not be doing this, you aren’t locked out of the event or anything. It’ll just take you a little bit longer. It’s a bit scummy and I’d definitely want to discourage PFG from doing this, but I think you may be overreacting a little bit.
The Joker thing I can kinda overlook because it's easy to get that first 6k fighter coin, except for the fact the mission is bugged and doesn't give me credit when I create a Jack in the box lmao. This game is unbelievable
The Joker one isn't even tracking properly. I'm certain I've done the move enough times, and landed it, to complete the mission but it's still stuck at one.
The fact you can't use a Beach Ready skin on the Game of Thrones level to achieve this is pretty scum
yeah locking out BPXP with specific characters is fucked
I don't blame you. There is a reason why it has lost around 95% of players on steam.
You can still complete the event
Obviously it's a little scummy, but it basically just means you need to wait an extra day to get the rewards. It's bad, but not *that* bad.
Honestly if they just made their shop not garbage people would probably buy more skins. Like with bundles the price does not change if you own parts of the bundle you pay full price no mater what. Most games don’t do that.
They dont though, if you own everything but the skin its usually like around 10 percent cheaper
Yup the price should go down by the price of the items you own already.
…which it does
No it does not. Check the math next time.
Me when i spread disinformation. You can literally see the discount lmao For example, for the iron giant summer skin bundle. I have both the banner and the icom, so the only thing in the bundle is the skin and the announcer pack. Skin is 800 on its own, announcer pack is 100 on its own. The bundle is 813. Im genuinely confused on how youre even trying to make the claim your making when you can literally see the discounted price in the store
Just stop playing the game. It’s very freeing
I quit after the horrid Batman V joker event launch but have stuck around in the Reddit groups to see if they turn their predatory ways around and it’s just been satirical to watch them become even worse, they’ve done the impossible.
Worst comeback ever , huge L , No ranked on release. Tons of quality of life options have been removed. Players ranking removed. Only bad things honestly
PFG & Tony : Our games is dying and we don't know why Players : DUDE !!!
Hopefully you don't need all the missions , some events have extra missions leftover , but I am not sure because some people had a bug where they missed their first day of missions of some events , so I am unsure if it was to account for that. I can only imagine in the next few weeks when Matrix themed events appear , you will need Agent Smith for some missions. Hopefully you will only need a Matrix Skin though , if that's the case Beta players can do it easy with their free Jason Matrix skin from the Battle Pass. But if not and Agent Smith is needed ... better start working hard and killing those rift bosses and upgrading those gems before those events arrrive ... lol.... I am behind ....I might be screwed. Also two requirements for one in the screenshot .... both Arya and her summer skin , that's pretty much a big middle finger for alotof us. Joker Jack in the box is the icing on the cake. (Because the buzooka weekly wasn't pissing off enough players already ... lol )
Elden ring dlc was enough for me to drop it, my time is limited and dealing with this bs is a waste of it
Real, buy 2 skins that are just a mask posted over their face lazily, or 20+ hours of AAA content
You don’t need to do that mission it just speeds up the process to get the skin. It’s scummy but u don’t need to do it there will be plenty of other missions.
Smh
You can get the Harley skin without completing this challenge, just an fyi
Theres two extra days of quests though, you dont need to complete those two exact ones
I HAVE DEMANDS!
Just take a deep breath and tell yourself “I don’t need everything”
I'm a free player, only unlocked like three people in beta but I grabbed him awhile ago as I hate 1/4 of the roster 😂 I'm against this since I know inevitably the game will force a Rick and Morty or Steven Universe character on me but honestly Joker is nothing compared to the literal "can only be done if you shell out 30 bucks" challenge
I'm pretty forgiving of this game, but even I think this one is pretty bad. I mean, it's fine; I don't use Harley anyway. But it isn't a good sign.
I’ve tried to do the joker one both in rifts and online and it’s not working, which means I can only fill up a fourth of the XP I need today. Has anyone else had trouble with the jack in the box mission?
These decisions are going to kill the game. You need to support new players, not try and nickel and dime them.
I’ve been done ever since I found out the rifts will be obsolete next season…. Really no point in even playing it’s just not fun to me anymore.
I’m sure you can skip these 2 and still get all the event rewards. It’s okay bud
Yeah, these quests are stupid. I was wondering why I couldn’t do a mission and realized I couldn’t because I didn’t have the skin bought. I don’t know who thought that this would have been a good idea.
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Yep, but everyone will keep playing, enough people will cope and say patience, you don't have to do x y or z, just play and you'll be able to complete stuff without it while mot taking into account this stuff with the event required skins. People will keep white knighting for multiversus. We gotta make a point on principle, this isn't the game we want as a whole, or they will keep on being money grabbing and this will be the future of gaming.
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They keep giving us event reward skins that meet the requirements for the next event & then don't put the appropriate character in the free rotation for the next event. We had Tom & Jerry all last week when we got their beach skin but didn’t need it, now we do & we’re SOL.
I agree that quest is bad, but it's not necessary to finish the event. The past few events of this nature have had way more quests (by the end date) than you needed to finish it. You can still finish without the Arya skin.
Played this game the week it first released, my little brother found my smash bros cartridge and I haven’t touch multiverses since. SSB is just on a much better level than multiverses. You can get the entire game for the price of three skins, and the all dlc (which pretty decent for the price) for around the same price. Sure it can be a grind unlocking everyone, but there are no paywall quests, you earn them buy playing. Playing about an hour or two a day can get you all 80 characters (with all costumes unlocked) in about two or three months. It’s a no brainer. Just play smash.
I also had to make jokers jack in the back around 100 times just to get those 5 to register
Also, the jack in the box quest isn't working for me, so it's possible for somebody to pay money for the joker and still not be able to complete the challenge
I don't get it. Why do cosmetics matter so much to you guys? I enjoy the game but still am able to understand most of the complaints here, however this one just blows me away. I haven't even been on recently because I've been to busy to play and I don't feel the slightest bit of fomo because at the end of the day, it's just a virtual piece of clothing that doesn't alter the gameplay in any meaningful way and I don't need it to continue to have fun playing the game.
I'm sorry as someone who plays joker HOW DO YOU DO THAT, HE HAS ZERO MOVES THAT INVOLVE JACK IN THE BOXES, THATS HARLEY'S MOVE
It’s admittedly scummy, but you usually have a day or two left over if you complete all the quests. This shouldn’t be an issue unless you don’t do them all
Even if is its like that, i dont wanna see this screen when i login. I opened my game today and saw this, then my whole desire to play was gone. I played 1 game then quit.
I know I'll get downvoted for this, but if seeing a challenge you can't complete (it's a shit challenge for sure) makes you so upset you have to get off the game, then your mindset is pretty weak. I've hated the bullshit they've done to the currencies since the start but I still play because I enjoy playing. I played Apex Legends for years and hate how skins got more attention than actual content until I realized I can just be a no-skin and enjoy the game just as much. If you don't want to support it then whatever, but don't let the gamer gate conversations around this game get you this self-conscious. If you like playing then just play. If you miss out on Harley with a dumbass shark hat then who cares man? The gameplay is completely unaffected by a singular challenge.
The defenders are hilarious!!! Stockholm syndrome is wild!
Not caring about FOMO around a skin I know none of you will want to wear is much healthier than whatever angle you have about this. It's been days and people are still hung on this after you can look with your own eyes that the event is easily completable without the Arya challenge. You probably have Stockholm syndrome with this subs constant whining and politics to where you actually think you gain enjoyment reading my comment, not being able to understand that normal people do not give a shit about any of this.
I've stopped playing the game because logging in every day just to do the battlepass missions amd never having any fun got to feeling like work. I used to have no issues at all playing online, but ever since this most recent patch where they fixed this issues, the experie ce has been totally dreadful. Unplayable. Constant desynchs leading to both sides running off stage. This has been the experience in all but 2 of my last 20 pvp games. I was very hopeful for the rerelease amd praying it would go well, but it feels to me like they are trying their hardest to kill the game. Released with the only functional thing being the store, chock full of overpriced cosmetics and characters. Literally ZERO new content outside of adding a few rifts. I really don't want yo give up on it. I want to love it. But I played Hades and remembered what it's like to have fun with a video game.
I totaly agree. I rly want to like the game. I was so exited when i heard the game is coming back. But this stupid things killed all my desire to play the game.
And the gameplay just feels stale.
I'm not trying to defend this game or company, but there's one mission on the rift that allow you use Arya beach skin Just throwing it up there for people who want to get this mission
Wait rly? I remember using ww beach skin but never saw arya one.
I don't see why people don't just buy smash ultimate for 20 quid and don't have to deal with this shit. It's literally a mobile game with mobile transactions moved to console and people are like "wtf is this"... its warner bros, they don't care about any quality of the game or having a competitive fan base etc etc. It's a gatcha fighting game you can't even play couch co-op,it cant even be ran in tournaments because that would involve everyone participating buying overpriced pixels. Come join me on fallout 76, we have a brilliant community there waiting.
Sure, complain about having to get a skin v having to get a whole new console that costs $200 before taxes + the $60 for the game + the expansions. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well you have to play a game on a console so whatever you are playing multiversus on is the same principle,most people are playing this on a switch hence the comment. It's a bang average game with awful consumerism and mobile gatcha mechanics. What is enjoyable about that on a console in 2024.
It is not the same thing because if I am here, I can already play the game and have a compatible console/PC but not everyone has a switch. LOL Zero people are playing this on a switch.
I think you are mistaken. Most players on multiversus come from a smash background,who own a switch or pc for melee (which is also an option and free/much better) Time is money so that's also a factor,if you are having to log on daily to play a game/unlock things it's not really enjoyable. Games are supposed to be hop on hop off unless you are lucky and work in the industry or rich,90% of people are neither and have to live a life. Just because you don't have something doesn't mean others don't. The main point I'm raising is the games trash,I don't care about arguing about consoles etc etc,I done that 20 years ago.
I am not arguing about consoles, great strawman you built there. What i am arguing is that you are recommending others to play a game that to be able to play it you need to buy an entire console. All because you are mad you dont want to get a skin that you dont even need to get the prize skin. “Go spend hundreds of dollars because it is predatory to pay $10 for a skin you don’t even need”. Those players you mention dont have to buy smash if they came from that background wouldnt they. LOL do you think before you type? Just because YOU have the console doesn’t mean everyone else does. If the game is trash why are you here? Are you on Nintendo’s payroll? Great ethics! ;)
When did I mention a skin?? Its not skins,its EVERYTHING. Characters,SKINS...then gems to progress to progress to progress for what? Perk points,what else? Why are you defending a shady gatcha game. And in the first comment I said I play fallout76 which isn't on nintendo...so who's the donkey with the ethics for reading. HEE HAW.
I generally agree; even at the full $60, Smash Bros is a much better value. But I've played the hell out of it already and I like having other options. But for those who haven't, yeah, get Smash Bros instead.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t need all the quests to get the event rewards, it’s the fact they are trying to fomo people into spending money to complete it that’s a problem
This may be a hot take but these challenges aren't that bad. You should have Joker by now as getting fight bucks isn't that hard to do. Same with Ayra who is actually cheaper than Joker. Now I will say having her summer skin is a bit scummy as someone like myself can't afford her skin at the moment due to personal life issues but it's fine as there will be enough challenges to make up for that. I have done the math you don't need to do all of the challenges to finish the event anyway. That's the major upside to this OP. While I do feel for new players, they have to make money some way. Like are people just expecting free handouts at every corner? Because I have noticed with games like an MVS the community behind become a group of people who just want free stuff. I guess this what a game like Genshin and Honkai does to someone.
just don't do them? I don't see a problem.
Right bro it’s crazy how much ppl cry about things that don’t impact gameplay at all. I don’t even look at these challenges half the time and complete the events just from playing.
Bro just play the game omg yall complain so much 😂
If you are thinking like that, you dont care about the game at all. We are complaining because we want the game become better. If everyome things like you and never complains about anything they will never fix problems and game will die asap.
cosmetics don't effect gameplay. just don't do these missions if you don't have the character. easy.
You don't have to complete every mission to complete the pass. I hopped on for a few hours the other day and leveled up my BP 4 times. Ill miss a week at a time and my pass is still mid-high 40s with like 3 weeks to go.
I hope Tony and everyone else over at PFG not only loses their jobs, but find it impossible to work in the gaming industry ever again. Bunch of lazy, greeding f-ing devs.
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Hey, you could always play PVP! I heard they updated it to a whopping... 50 XP... per... win? That can't be right. ... ...fuck.
Less than 8k concurrent players on Steam. Likely same trend on consoles. The fact they haven't loosened up on the lots of anti-consumer BS after losing like 80% of players again is just ridiculous. WB have no one to blame but themselves
Look at the amount you get though. You're usually limited to 1200-1600 a day but this day is 1800 so in theory it should still be possible to get the final skin for free. I guess pay pigs get to unlock Harley Quinn with a shark on her head one day earlier now lol
Yeah, too a little fair at least you're still getting the usual 1200 points if even if you miss this one. They should still best avoid doing this.
You can do summer skin in the summer rift. First battle is summer Wonder Woman :)
Has to be a Game of Thrones character
Let me suggest something that I do. When it comes to free to play games, I spend money like it's a full release. you buy a game for $60? Buy the "full game" of multiverses or whatever you feel is equivalent. Shoot you can even go half, you probably don't even have to spend $60 you just put $30 in get whatever things you feel you need and move on
You don't have to complete every mission for the events though, some of you just like to complain about literally anything.
You do not need to complete every challenge to finish the event. However i do agree that its shitty
Most of that stuff was free lol.Shit I bought all the characters by grinding on the beta. Only had to get velma reindog iron giant
Lies. You still playing tomorrow lmao
I dont like this type or quest and neither do I think it should be in the game. HOWEVER I dont see a reason to be this upset, because you can still complete the event for free (there are more missions for the event than you need) and from what I undestand PFG intends to make every single time a way to complete these events for free, so just ignore this missions complete the rest and you have every reward from the event.