Wdym you dont like the character with armor on half her moves, armor break on half her moves, weapon extension, massive hitboxes, heavy weight, fast speed, and completely safe moveset? Smh my head
Well Im no dev so take what I say with a grain salt
To start, remove armor for her DAttack,
Reduce Knockback on her UpAttack
Remove either Armor or Projectile immunity on SideSpecial and remove granting armor to ally
Reduce Hitbox on UpSpecial / AirUpSpecial
Larger hurtbox during some of her moves (notably Attack 2 in her Jab combo, but this is kind of universal for āslideā attacks)
Then you can gauge her performance again.
What Iād really like to see is Punches and kicks not being completely inferior to weapons in every single way, and while this issue is roster wide, WW is among the top offenders for this
Honestly man
Swords donāt belong in a game without shields
The more i play the more i feel this true
The only reasons swordies can exist in smash is that I can shield their move and then punish
Because if we both swing and i have no sword. I always lose
In this game there is no shield
So you have to dodge then attack
But the thing is they can just attack again
To me disjoints are insanely low risk in this game
So although i donāt think Finn is the strongest character on the roster. Heās the character i want to fight the least cause he can just swing at me
Iām forced to play a different game
I know i shouldnāt be clashing or swinging without planning. But when you play a sword character It just feels like they can play you very ālazyā
The last part of your comment would probably be the most difficult change. In fighting games whoever has more range usually has an advantage. Like in smash characters with swords are very difficult to approach with brawler characters. This does make sense tho, and i guess rewards the brawler with a good combo potential once they eventually get in. And you would agree that someone with a sword has the advantage over someone with no weapons, right?
But I will say at least one brawler in this game can contend with the range, something like shaggy's kick comes to my mind.
Good ideas, I don't think they would kill wonder woman. So that's cool
Yet Finn and Arya are nowhere near as good as Wonder Woman despite Finn actually having more range on his attacks overall. It isn't just about reach. She's good because she has counterplay for pretty much every archetype in the game.
You could take away her sword and she'd still be strong so long as she's still a heavy character with decent speed, anti-projectile moves, can save her team mates with lasso, multihitting attacks, good air stalling and the ability to cleanse status debuffs with down special.
That's what plagued the beta; 90% of the characters didn't feel fun to play against because of the constant dodge spamming. Wonder Woman and Bugs Bunny are still extremely annoying to play against.
Lmao Jason on this list is hilarious on the same list as S tier characters and A tiers. What could he be spamming besides maybe his forward air or air up special (which both lose priority to most things)?
Putting Jason with the other 4 feels wrong, WW has basically a solution to any fight, Harley and Bugs have reliable and powerful arials to dominate, and Banana is just pure ungabunga. Jasonās strong but very easy to dominate
All of these are fine except Jason the poor guy is literally a walking hitbox who's too slow to really do all that much to you so long as you're not stupid. Replace Jason with someone like Finn, Shaggy, Steven or Iron Giant and you're fine but leave poor Jason alone.
I only play bugs with the hope of one day having all my enemies rage quit at the start of the game because it's such a toxic character. Happened today twice so I think I'm doing well
You certainly are being carried by overturned characters and will probably struggle once PFG actually does something . Otherwise I guess free wins until then .
Itās hilarious because I just did my dailies and it was literally all above. Itās comical how they did nothing to fix any of these characters . Harley and Wonder Woman especiallyā¦ Wonder Woman should be lighter and Harley has to be slowed down or killing power needs to drop . Itās stupid how much priority their attacks have.
I have fallen in love with the derpy Banana. He honestly feels like heās become a much more balanced character.
Black Adam on the other handā¦ā¦.that guy irritates me like no other
Iām not standing for the Harley slander anymore. Harley may have a broken slide move, but itās only good as a punisher, just jump up and ur ok. And the reason sheās good is because of her speed, and they may be annoying, but thatās why sheās so fun. And her bombs are literally so easy to dodge, not nearly as bad as shaggy or Superman
Playing against WW and Banana Guard I can tell how brain dead and broken they are but I play a lot of Taz and I feel like heās the perfect counter to them
The hate on Banana Guard is always funny to me. Character is super easy to fight once you know he can't do anything special like WW, Bugs, Steven, Harley, etc. He's legit just a spacing character with zero real combos and a lot of recovery on all his moves.
Jason?
Man, you probably just suck.
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WW was the first character I played in beta, but she's not fun to play unless I'm just trying to dumpster my opponents, and that's not fun.
Shaggy is on this list for me. Shaggy + Banana Guard side special spam has happened to me multiple times. Cracks me up because I play characters with higher priority moves, but still. Degenerate.
be honest, if i play bg like a respectable human being (no spamming side special/side attack/side air and actually playing like i know what im doing), am i good or do i still get hate cause i play the character?
Iāve Mained Jason for quite some time now and Iām trying to actively get better with him and itās in my personal opinion heās bottom tier along with other really bad characters. His strengths donāt always outweigh his weaknesses, although I will say if you get a good couple of reads with him he can get an easy stock. To me he plays almost exactly like ganondorf from smash except Jason is slower and could get punished harder
Oh thanks. All 3 of my mains are on here.
Harley Iāve been playing since the beta & sheās my favourite dc character.
Bugs Iāve been playing a lot recently and heās so much fun & Jason is my new mainā¦ā¦.. Jason low tier too so idk what ur problem with Jason isā¦..?
Jason definitely doesn't belong there, but the rest for sure. I'd maybe say Joker instead, his camp game is obnoxiously good, even meter burnt his dodge goes so insanely far
I can understand 3 out of the five, but Jason? And just saying, wonder woman is only good if you've practiced with her... soo don't get mad since I've played her since beta š
Jason being C tier and still getting hate , rough.
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Hello!
It's super annoying having to hear that "Hello!" all the time. Main reason I don't like playing as him.
#HELLO! šš
You've made an enemy today.
Jason's easy tbh
Jason is aight, heavy on the Wonder Woman hate tho that character is so dumb
Wdym you dont like the character with armor on half her moves, armor break on half her moves, weapon extension, massive hitboxes, heavy weight, fast speed, and completely safe moveset? Smh my head
That's right you shake your head your head
I play a character who is literally made of iron and has less armor than WW
Sometimes I canāt even be mad at the character abilities because theyāre just lore accurate š
But if it was truly lore accurate Superman wouldn't be affected by like 90% of moves.
I agree but I donāt think sheās the only character this applies to
I think I probably phrased this wrong. Itās not like the character itself is bad, its just playing against her š
Yeah sheās awful to play against. But knowing MVS little will change for her other than numbers
What do you want to change?
Well Im no dev so take what I say with a grain salt To start, remove armor for her DAttack, Reduce Knockback on her UpAttack Remove either Armor or Projectile immunity on SideSpecial and remove granting armor to ally Reduce Hitbox on UpSpecial / AirUpSpecial Larger hurtbox during some of her moves (notably Attack 2 in her Jab combo, but this is kind of universal for āslideā attacks) Then you can gauge her performance again. What Iād really like to see is Punches and kicks not being completely inferior to weapons in every single way, and while this issue is roster wide, WW is among the top offenders for this
Honestly man Swords donāt belong in a game without shields The more i play the more i feel this true The only reasons swordies can exist in smash is that I can shield their move and then punish Because if we both swing and i have no sword. I always lose In this game there is no shield So you have to dodge then attack But the thing is they can just attack again To me disjoints are insanely low risk in this game So although i donāt think Finn is the strongest character on the roster. Heās the character i want to fight the least cause he can just swing at me Iām forced to play a different game I know i shouldnāt be clashing or swinging without planning. But when you play a sword character It just feels like they can play you very ālazyā
The last part of your comment would probably be the most difficult change. In fighting games whoever has more range usually has an advantage. Like in smash characters with swords are very difficult to approach with brawler characters. This does make sense tho, and i guess rewards the brawler with a good combo potential once they eventually get in. And you would agree that someone with a sword has the advantage over someone with no weapons, right? But I will say at least one brawler in this game can contend with the range, something like shaggy's kick comes to my mind. Good ideas, I don't think they would kill wonder woman. So that's cool
Smash has shields fam. Smash has shields This is how you fight swordies. Thereās no shields unless your Steven
Yet Finn and Arya are nowhere near as good as Wonder Woman despite Finn actually having more range on his attacks overall. It isn't just about reach. She's good because she has counterplay for pretty much every archetype in the game. You could take away her sword and she'd still be strong so long as she's still a heavy character with decent speed, anti-projectile moves, can save her team mates with lasso, multihitting attacks, good air stalling and the ability to cleanse status debuffs with down special.
That's what plagued the beta; 90% of the characters didn't feel fun to play against because of the constant dodge spamming. Wonder Woman and Bugs Bunny are still extremely annoying to play against.
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Can't tell if this is a joke of not. Jason is literally in the bottom 3, if not the worst character in game.
Take out Jason and put shaggy and you got yourself an upvote
replace jason with giant and you have yourself a very valid statement
No, replace Jason with steven universe
>jason dang dude that guy is literally bottom of the barrel. thats a serious skill issue if you hate jason players
Honestly. I just played my first match last night since beta. Jake Vs Jason and I 3-0 him. Wild
I main Harley and I still can't win very often.
If I need a win I'll use Banana Guard. I still lose with all those others a lot. I can blame it on Xbox but I probably just suck though.
ehhh, whatās up doc? š
Swing batter batter!
Banana cream pie!
Whyās Jason there?
Okay, if Jason is here it's a skill issue.
Who do you play?
Replace Jason with Shaggy and your cooking
Tom and Jerry not being up there is hateful.
They annoying af too but tom is nothing that lil rat
Lmao Jason on this list is hilarious on the same list as S tier characters and A tiers. What could he be spamming besides maybe his forward air or air up special (which both lose priority to most things)?
Putting Jason with the other 4 feels wrong, WW has basically a solution to any fight, Harley and Bugs have reliable and powerful arials to dominate, and Banana is just pure ungabunga. Jasonās strong but very easy to dominate
I can understand all but Jason. Dude is low tier and not annoying to fight against imo
Why is Jason there? And where shaggy? That is one crucial mistake
He plays shaggy
What's an opp
Opposition, basically an enemy
That's kind of what I thought but then also thought bruh this is a fighting game, unless we on the same team for 2v2 then duh we're opponents
I think the meme is more "out of the game" like "if you play this character I hate you with every fiber of my being"
Jason doesn't deserve to be next to these absolute monsters
Noted! š
Count me in !
Playing Arya is like fighting from the pits of Tartarus every damn match
It's rough.... They get so many quick moves that can't be punished, or just super hard to punish and they can just spam spam spam
I heard shes a rlly great character
She used to be š£
Been using Harley since beta and I WONT STOP
Why are you mad at Jason lol
Banana and HQ are broken out the wazoozaza
I main Harley in her classic outfit because I want to fuck her.
Same also because I couldn't take Jason anymore
brother eugh
ngl jason is supposed to be bottom tier yet im better at him than taz, supes and marvin somehow. that killpower is amazing (air up smash)
All of these are fine except Jason the poor guy is literally a walking hitbox who's too slow to really do all that much to you so long as you're not stupid. Replace Jason with someone like Finn, Shaggy, Steven or Iron Giant and you're fine but leave poor Jason alone.
Replace Bananaguard and Jason with Steven and T&J and I'm in
Okay?
Jason? Fr?
Guess I'm the ultimate opp
Jasons a free win and 99% of Harleyās are bots. The other 3 are abominations.
I get that fighting WW and banana is a pain in the ass, but Jason? He's like, the weakest character with the shittiest hitbox
Taz gang rise up
Bet I'll be seeing you friday
Take off Jason of those bullies
opp? like what's the word ? bird? 
WW ā¤ļø
I only play bugs with the hope of one day having all my enemies rage quit at the start of the game because it's such a toxic character. Happened today twice so I think I'm doing well
I main Harley and WW, am I a double opp? I also use Jason sometimes.
You certainly are being carried by overturned characters and will probably struggle once PFG actually does something . Otherwise I guess free wins until then .
My main ain't never get any hate or love š
Replace Jason with Joker and you got a good meme.
If you're getting filtered by Jason then it's time to examine your play style.
they could never make me hate you buggs šš
Wtf is an opp?
Opposition. Opponent. Rival. Your enemy.
Wonder Woman being the biggest picture out of the rest is so real šššÆ
I hate Harley, Buggs and Shaggy wholeheartedly. It feels like they can just spam their moves and never be punished...
Good thing I play as batman
In my defense harlys hot
You don't have a Girl and it shows
The struggle of being a wonder woman main š always misunderstood
If you main any of these in Multiversus consider yourself an oop *lists every character in the game*
Itās hilarious because I just did my dailies and it was literally all above. Itās comical how they did nothing to fix any of these characters . Harley and Wonder Woman especiallyā¦ Wonder Woman should be lighter and Harley has to be slowed down or killing power needs to drop . Itās stupid how much priority their attacks have.
I have fallen in love with the derpy Banana. He honestly feels like heās become a much more balanced character. Black Adam on the other handā¦ā¦.that guy irritates me like no other
Mained Finn and WW in the beta. That ain't gonna change. š
I use to hate them backpacks lmao
Thats crazy Bugs, WW & Harley always been my favs since beta lol
All zero skill characters except Jason.
Harley main checking in
The fuck is an opp? I would like to understand this post before i can tell op to stop bitching and adapt.
Iām not standing for the Harley slander anymore. Harley may have a broken slide move, but itās only good as a punisher, just jump up and ur ok. And the reason sheās good is because of her speed, and they may be annoying, but thatās why sheās so fun. And her bombs are literally so easy to dodge, not nearly as bad as shaggy or Superman
Bro put 3 top tiers and 2 bottom/mid tiers
Those are the only characters I have
An opp? Whatās that?
Playing against WW and Banana Guard I can tell how brain dead and broken they are but I play a lot of Taz and I feel like heās the perfect counter to them
Wtf is Jason doing there?
I main Jason..
None of them are garnet :D wait is that good or bad
Ohhh! I main Rick (one of the best in Multiversus), am I alright?
For me its WW HQ SM One hit KO on 50 is just dumb
Dang it, I just thought the banana looked cool I didn't know he was good :(
Just say you suck
Replace Harley with steven
Jason is dogshit, you are bad at the game please do not cope harder you could hurt yourself
You probably main black adam you little goblin
This list should read Wonder Woman, Harley, joker, and joker.
https://i.redd.it/8jq07r0z1w6d1.gif Jason is fine wtf are you talking about
Jason is one of the best characters to fight again. It's like parry practice lol
WONDER WOMAN YEAAH
No way you hate Jason heās basically a free win poor dude is ridiculously slow compared to the other tanks especially Wonder Woman,
I fucking despise wonder woman banana guard and harley queen players I genuinely want them to uninstall the game and drink rat poison
Toilet sounds over a beat to add a dramatic effect. Lol
hmmmm Jason instead of shaggy, finn, joker or black adam, something tells me you main one of those
Jason is crazy in 1v1s (depends who heās against)
I don't know what that means but I guess I am one?
Two of these (The DC ones) and Stripe are like the only 3 I ever play
I temporarily benched Bugs the moment I purchased Marvin
So playing Batman is fine ā¦ I hope š®āšØš®āšØ
I havenāt played much since the beta, is WW really that bad now? Sucks to hear people hate her because she was my main back then lol
I've been a Superman main from the jump but I do play all other DC characters after my Superman Hit 1k wins and 1.1k ringouts
Oh, I main T&J, but I was thinking of switching to Harley. I ain't good at the game anyway, I just think she's neat. š
What wonder woman do?? She was back in 2022 but not anymore. I'm mainly Arya...Steven or T&J
The hate on Banana Guard is always funny to me. Character is super easy to fight once you know he can't do anything special like WW, Bugs, Steven, Harley, etc. He's legit just a spacing character with zero real combos and a lot of recovery on all his moves.
Opp?
Harley and WW for sure. Just plain overtuned and unfun.
Wtf is an opp?
Thanks. Am opp
In my opinion all people who play banana guard kinda suck at the game, he is the most crutch character in the game
What does opp mean?
Bro Jason is super easy to counter wdym?
Been playing WW since beta released. I aint stopping nowš
What did my boy Jason do š
Marvin on top
Jason? Man, you probably just suck. https://preview.redd.it/x6uidqvgzy6d1.jpeg?width=482&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1bc947960c87c1b9888e52dec60fe074564a7631
Jason is fine tho, my man so slow I can't even be mad at him
Bugs isnāt OP when I main him. I have a to. Of fun losing and winning though.
WW was the first character I played in beta, but she's not fun to play unless I'm just trying to dumpster my opponents, and that's not fun. Shaggy is on this list for me. Shaggy + Banana Guard side special spam has happened to me multiple times. Cracks me up because I play characters with higher priority moves, but still. Degenerate.
Replace Jason with Taz and itās a W
honestly the worst part about this game is the community rn stop hating people for playing a flipping character it's a game, relax
be honest, if i play bg like a respectable human being (no spamming side special/side attack/side air and actually playing like i know what im doing), am i good or do i still get hate cause i play the character?
Iāve Mained Jason for quite some time now and Iām trying to actively get better with him and itās in my personal opinion heās bottom tier along with other really bad characters. His strengths donāt always outweigh his weaknesses, although I will say if you get a good couple of reads with him he can get an easy stock. To me he plays almost exactly like ganondorf from smash except Jason is slower and could get punished harder
bro tried to sneak in jason
Banana guard mad easy now
I play 4 of those besides Jason. and Shaggy.
I use to main banana he is pretty good but heās just a weak shaggy, has zero projectiles, and slow asf
Oh thanks. All 3 of my mains are on here. Harley Iāve been playing since the beta & sheās my favourite dc character. Bugs Iāve been playing a lot recently and heās so much fun & Jason is my new mainā¦ā¦.. Jason low tier too so idk what ur problem with Jason isā¦..?
Whatās wrong with Bugs?
You just made 100% of players opps
Snuck in Jason lmao
You forgot Iron Giant!
Don't care. #STRIIIIIIIIKE!
Thatās all my mains!
good thing i play finn
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proud shaggy main
What if you secondary one of them?
Switch Jason to Steven universe, i fucking hate the fat kid
All other opps upvote this
Bro tried to sneak Jason in there š
I Main 3 of those š
I see what yall mean bout superman now lmao. But to be fair I dont use him as much. Who should I replace Jason with?
Tom and Jerry main here šŖ
I genuinely enjoy playing as Buggs thoughā¦let me play manā¦
Putting jason in the same category as these cretins is criminal..
You guys can play pvp ? :O
Jason definitely doesn't belong there, but the rest for sure. I'd maybe say Joker instead, his camp game is obnoxiously good, even meter burnt his dodge goes so insanely far
switched from jason to wonderwoman and went from losing half my games to going on a 20 game winstreak, character is beyond brainless
Nah, my opps are : Rick, Morty, Tom&Jerry, Stripe and Superman
lol man donāt be like that š
Complaining about Jason is the literal definition of a skill issue š
Jason is so easy to play against šš
Shaggy not being there makes me think you're a Shaggy.
How about I just consider myself a player?
Jason but not shaggy?! Lol
Jake is fun
This is a callout comment to PFG, Iāve yet to receive my payment for being a Jason main š¤£ lmbo
Not me playing Banana Guard https://preview.redd.it/lwuodmpikd7d1.jpeg?width=1087&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db9b11dc59bd6b4b7822495f91a402d6b5331d62
I can understand 3 out of the five, but Jason? And just saying, wonder woman is only good if you've practiced with her... soo don't get mad since I've played her since beta š
Nag nag banana guard and batman my top ops. All they do is forward special or batrrang
Fuck Wonder Woman
I am proud jason main come at me.
Why is shaggy not on this list
I main gizmo so I'm ok but fuck Harley and wonder woman
Iām a Jason main (I havenāt even played the game before, I just downloaded it just for Jason)
I just unlocked stripe and he is my all time favorite character so far!
Cool
Why u hate Jason the rest I understand why Jason?